Re: [meteorite-list] Lindfors avalanche!

2009-12-28 Thread Randy Korotev
I've asked him to stop, too, but he hasn't done it.  This calendar 
year I've received a minimum of 3801 e-mails from him (~11/day) with 
84,805 JPG attachments.  I say "minimum" because our IT guy just 
trashes them if I don't clean up my mail box every few days.  I 
derive some bizarre pleasure from counting them.



At 11:11 26-12-09 Saturday, you wrote:
Omg, I just got 20 Lindfors-o-grams all at once, with nearly 50 Mb 
of attached images. Has anybody figured out how to stop this spammer?


Jeff


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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Deaths? Interesting old article-read

2009-12-28 Thread mail

A friend sent this link to me in regard to the Bear Creek meteorite.


Near the end of the text it details the deaths of 3 monks and 2  
Swedish sailors by meteorite impact!

Has anyone heard of this?  The passage reads:

 "A few instances are on record of buildings being struck and set on  
fire and persons struck dead by the fall of aerolites.  These Three  
monks were killed, one on the 4th September 1611, at Crema (?),  
another at Milan, in 1650, and a third in the same place in 1660.  In  
1674 two Swedish sailors on board ship were killed by the fall of one."


Having never heard of this I searched the Catalog of Meteorites and  
came up blank.  Has anyone heard of these falls and can they be  
substantiated?


Matt Morgan
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[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: December 21-25, 2009

2009-12-28 Thread Ron Baalke

MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
December 21-25, 2009

o Gullies (21 December 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20091221a

o Candor Chasma Landslide (22 December 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20091222a

o Mangala Valles (23 December 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20091223a

o Proctor Crater Dunes (24 December 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20091224a

o Dark Slope Streaks (25 December 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20091225a


All of the THEMIS images are archived here:

http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission 
for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission 
Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University,
Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. 
The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State 
University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor 
for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission 
operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a 
division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. 



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[meteorite-list] Tucson - activity first weekend

2009-12-28 Thread Linton Rohr

Ahoy there listees.
I'm wondering how much activity there will be the first couple days of the 
show. I've heard a couple folks say that it takes a couple days for everyone 
to get the rooms up and running. I was only there a few days in the middle 
of last year's show, but had a great time, and brought home some nice 
pieces.
This year, I had been planning on arriving Saturday the 30th, to get an 
early start on my shopping, but I just realized I have concert tickets for 
Sunday the 31st. I'm not sure weather to show up in Tucson Monday, or blow 
off the concert. Any thoughts? Thank you in advance.
Linton 


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[meteorite-list] UPDATE RE: Whetstone Mountains Monograph

2009-12-28 Thread Dave Gheesling
Rob, Greg & All,

Rob, your comments below re: the Limited Edition Whetstone Mountains
meteorite monograph being a "value for the small price" were much
appreciated, as that was most definitely the intent of the offering.
There's no telling where the one-time eBay listing I posted last week will
end, but from the looks of it this notion of value seems to be on target as
Jack and I had hoped:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180448321242 

Thanks again to all of you who have purchased copies, particularly to those
who did so sight-unseen when the monograph was first introduced last month!

All the best, and Happy New Year!

Dave
www.fallingrocks.com

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Matson,
Robert D.
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 7:01 PM
To: Greg Catterton; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Whetstone Mountains Monograph

Hi All,

I wholeheartedly concur with Greg -- I received my Whetstone Mountains
monograph today from Dave, and it is a top-notch job. Excellent
photo-documentation of the finds, and a terrific value for the small price
Dave was asking.
Congrats to all
involved in this story of Arizona's latest fall, and in particular to Jack
Schrader for the many weeks of legwork and hot-temperature field work in the
(continuing)
recovery of this fall.

Best wishes,
Rob

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Catterton
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 3:47 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Whetstone Mountains Monograph

I just received my autographed copy of Whetstone Mountains monograph.

I have to say an excellent job was done on this, and I am super pleased to
have one.
The documentation is an incredible read that I will certainly take time to
read more then once.
The fragment is got even had a nice spot of fusion crust on it!

If you ordered one and have not got it yet, just wait!!!
Thats all Im gonna say. I dont want to spoil it for those that have not seen
it in person.

Great job to all involved in this.

Greg C.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson - activity first weekend

2009-12-28 Thread Greg Hupe

Ahoy Linton!

you wrote:
"This year, I had been planning on arriving Saturday the 30th, to get an
early start on my shopping, but I just realized I have concert tickets for
Sunday the 31st. I'm not sure weather to show up in Tucson Monday, or blow
off the concert. "

A Mineral Show is the only true "Rock Concert"! ;-)

Best regards,
Greg


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- Original Message - 
From: "Linton Rohr" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 7:28 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson - activity first weekend



Ahoy there listees.
I'm wondering how much activity there will be the first couple days of the 
show. I've heard a couple folks say that it takes a couple days for 
everyone to get the rooms up and running. I was only there a few days in 
the middle of last year's show, but had a great time, and brought home 
some nice pieces.
This year, I had been planning on arriving Saturday the 30th, to get an 
early start on my shopping, but I just realized I have concert tickets for 
Sunday the 31st. I'm not sure weather to show up in Tucson Monday, or blow 
off the concert. Any thoughts? Thank you in advance.

Linton
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Re: [meteorite-list] UPDATE RE: Whetstone Mountains Monograph

2009-12-28 Thread Rob Wesel
Chiming in late but I must join in offering the highest praise for this 
monograph. Limited or standard edition makes no matter in its lightning fast 
readability.


An excellent work Dave.

Rob Wesel
www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
www.facebook.com/nakhladog
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and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
Willy Wonka, 1971


- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Gheesling" 
To: "'Matson, Robert D.'" ; "'Greg Catterton'" 
; 

Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 5:06 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] UPDATE RE: Whetstone Mountains Monograph



Rob, Greg & All,

Rob, your comments below re: the Limited Edition Whetstone Mountains
meteorite monograph being a "value for the small price" were much
appreciated, as that was most definitely the intent of the offering.
There's no telling where the one-time eBay listing I posted last week will
end, but from the looks of it this notion of value seems to be on target 
as

Jack and I had hoped:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180448321242

Thanks again to all of you who have purchased copies, particularly to 
those
who did so sight-unseen when the monograph was first introduced last 
month!


All the best, and Happy New Year!

Dave
www.fallingrocks.com

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Matson,
Robert D.
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 7:01 PM
To: Greg Catterton; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Whetstone Mountains Monograph

Hi All,

I wholeheartedly concur with Greg -- I received my Whetstone Mountains
monograph today from Dave, and it is a top-notch job. Excellent
photo-documentation of the finds, and a terrific value for the small price
Dave was asking.
Congrats to all
involved in this story of Arizona's latest fall, and in particular to Jack
Schrader for the many weeks of legwork and hot-temperature field work in 
the

(continuing)
recovery of this fall.

Best wishes,
Rob

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Catterton
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 3:47 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Whetstone Mountains Monograph

I just received my autographed copy of Whetstone Mountains monograph.

I have to say an excellent job was done on this, and I am super pleased to
have one.
The documentation is an incredible read that I will certainly take time to
read more then once.
The fragment is got even had a nice spot of fusion crust on it!

If you ordered one and have not got it yet, just wait!!!
Thats all Im gonna say. I dont want to spoil it for those that have not 
seen

it in person.

Great job to all involved in this.

Greg C.
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Re: [meteorite-list] UPDATE RE: Whetstone Mountains Monograph

2009-12-28 Thread Dave Gheesling
Thanks Rob...very kind words, and much appreciated!
Happy New Year,
Dave
www.fallingrocks.com 

-Original Message-
From: Rob Wesel [mailto:nakhla...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 8:24 PM
To: d...@fallingrocks.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] UPDATE RE: Whetstone Mountains Monograph

Chiming in late but I must join in offering the highest praise for this
monograph. Limited or standard edition makes no matter in its lightning fast
readability.

An excellent work Dave.

Rob Wesel
www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
www.facebook.com/nakhladog
--
We are the music makers...
and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
Willy Wonka, 1971


- Original Message -
From: "Dave Gheesling" 
To: "'Matson, Robert D.'" ; "'Greg Catterton'" 
; 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 5:06 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] UPDATE RE: Whetstone Mountains Monograph


> Rob, Greg & All,
>
> Rob, your comments below re: the Limited Edition Whetstone Mountains
> meteorite monograph being a "value for the small price" were much
> appreciated, as that was most definitely the intent of the offering.
> There's no telling where the one-time eBay listing I posted last week will
> end, but from the looks of it this notion of value seems to be on target 
> as
> Jack and I had hoped:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180448321242
>
> Thanks again to all of you who have purchased copies, particularly to 
> those
> who did so sight-unseen when the monograph was first introduced last 
> month!
>
> All the best, and Happy New Year!
>
> Dave
> www.fallingrocks.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Matson,
> Robert D.
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 7:01 PM
> To: Greg Catterton; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Whetstone Mountains Monograph
>
> Hi All,
>
> I wholeheartedly concur with Greg -- I received my Whetstone Mountains
> monograph today from Dave, and it is a top-notch job. Excellent
> photo-documentation of the finds, and a terrific value for the small price
> Dave was asking.
> Congrats to all
> involved in this story of Arizona's latest fall, and in particular to Jack
> Schrader for the many weeks of legwork and hot-temperature field work in 
> the
> (continuing)
> recovery of this fall.
>
> Best wishes,
> Rob
>
> -Original Message-
> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg
> Catterton
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 3:47 PM
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Whetstone Mountains Monograph
>
> I just received my autographed copy of Whetstone Mountains monograph.
>
> I have to say an excellent job was done on this, and I am super pleased to
> have one.
> The documentation is an incredible read that I will certainly take time to
> read more then once.
> The fragment is got even had a nice spot of fusion crust on it!
>
> If you ordered one and have not got it yet, just wait!!!
> Thats all Im gonna say. I dont want to spoil it for those that have not 
> seen
> it in person.
>
> Great job to all involved in this.
>
> Greg C.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson - activity first weekend

2009-12-28 Thread Linton Rohr

"A Mineral Show is the only true "Rock Concert"! ;-) "

Hehe. Good one, Greg.
Actually, it's Beethoven on the menu, served up by the L.A. Philharmonic.
I may be able to trade my tickets for the Friday night show.
Then I could have my (Gold Basin) cake and eat it too!
Linton

- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Hupe" 

To: "Linton Rohr" ; <>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson - activity first weekend



Ahoy Linton!

you wrote:
"This year, I had been planning on arriving Saturday the 30th, to get an
early start on my shopping, but I just realized I have concert tickets for
Sunday the 31st. I'm not sure weather to show up in Tucson Monday, or blow
off the concert. "

A Mineral Show is the only true "Rock Concert"! ;-)

Best regards,
Greg


Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
NaturesVault (eBay)
gmh...@htn.net
www.LunarRock.com
IMCA 3163

Click here for my current eBay auctions: 
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- Original Message - 
From: "Linton Rohr" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 7:28 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson - activity first weekend



Ahoy there listees.
I'm wondering how much activity there will be the first couple days of 
the show. I've heard a couple folks say that it takes a couple days for 
everyone to get the rooms up and running. I was only there a few days in 
the middle of last year's show, but had a great time, and brought home 
some nice pieces.
This year, I had been planning on arriving Saturday the 30th, to get an 
early start on my shopping, but I just realized I have concert tickets 
for Sunday the 31st. I'm not sure weather to show up in Tucson Monday, or 
blow off the concert. Any thoughts? Thank you in advance.

Linton
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: A few collection pieces

2009-12-28 Thread Meteorites USA

Hi List,

I had some questions from list members and I updated A LOT of the photos 
on the pieces I have available. I also added a few items to the list. 
It's much easier to just add photos to one page rather than email them 
100 times. Here they are: http://meteoritesusa.com/special.htm


Enjoy...

Regards,
Eric



On 12/26/2009 5:00 PM, Meteorites USA wrote:

Hi List,

A few pieces available today.

1017g Sculpted Canyon Diablo = $750
6.9g West, TX (Ash Creek) = $276 (Found by me February 25th 2009 - 10 
days after the fall. Will supply documentation and in-situ photos)


Take both pieces = $1000
Free Shipping Worldwide

Also available:
63.8g Gold Basin - $47
47.9g Gold Basin - $35
54.0g Canyon Diablo (natural) - $27
31.9g Brenham Pallasite (part slice: Polished one side) - $99
5.4g Brenham Pallasite (two small polished frags) - $16

Email off-list for photos...

Regards,
Eric
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson - activity first weekend

2009-12-28 Thread impactika


I approve of Beethoven!!
 
Don't worry Linton, and don't keep Beethoven waiting.
 
By coming to the Tucson show during the first weekend, you will miss on 
some of the entertainment, like the IMCA dinner, the Birthday Bash, and the 
Auction, but you will certainly have a better choice of meteorites.
 
Unless the weather really stops me (and this year it could happen!) I am 
planning on reaching Tucson Thursday evening, so Geoff and I will have all day 
Friday to set up the room. And Saturday morning the room should be ready 
for visitors, although we always joke that we don't get everything set up just 
right until the very last day of the Show.
So come on over Linton, we will be looking for you.
 
Anne M. Black
_http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) 
_impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) 
Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
_http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) 
 
 
In a message dated 12/28/2009 7:13:27 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
linton...@earthlink.net writes:
"A Mineral Show is the only true "Rock Concert"! ;-) "

Hehe. Good one, Greg.
Actually, it's Beethoven on the menu, served up by the L.A. Philharmonic.
I may be able to trade my tickets for the Friday night show.
Then I could have my (Gold Basin) cake and eat it too!
Linton

- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Hupe" 
To: "Linton Rohr" ; <>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson - activity first weekend


> Ahoy Linton!
>
> you wrote:
> "This year, I had been planning on arriving Saturday the 30th, to get an
> early start on my shopping, but I just realized I have concert tickets for
> Sunday the 31st. I'm not sure weather to show up in Tucson Monday, or blow
> off the concert. "
>
> A Mineral Show is the only true "Rock Concert"! ;-)
>
> Best regards,
> Greg
>
> 
> Greg Hupe
> The Hupe Collection
> NaturesVault (eBay)
> gmh...@htn.net
> www.LunarRock.com
> IMCA 3163
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson - activity first weekend

2009-12-28 Thread Linton Rohr

Thanks Anne!
I should clarify though... I will be staying through the following weekend, 
either way. I wouldn't even consider missing the events you mentioned, but I 
imagine my first stop when I hit town will be Room 230.  ;^)  Again.

Linton

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: ; ; 


Cc: 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson - activity first weekend





I approve of Beethoven!!

Don't worry Linton, and don't keep Beethoven waiting.

By coming to the Tucson show during the first weekend, you will miss on
some of the entertainment, like the IMCA dinner, the Birthday Bash, and 
the

Auction, but you will certainly have a better choice of meteorites.

Unless the weather really stops me (and this year it could happen!) I am
planning on reaching Tucson Thursday evening, so Geoff and I will have all 
day

Friday to set up the room. And Saturday morning the room should be ready
for visitors, although we always joke that we don't get everything set up 
just

right until the very last day of the Show.
So come on over Linton, we will be looking for you.

Anne M. Black
_http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/)
_impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com)
Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
_http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/)


In a message dated 12/28/2009 7:13:27 PM Mountain Standard Time,
linton...@earthlink.net writes:
"A Mineral Show is the only true "Rock Concert"! ;-) "

Hehe. Good one, Greg.
Actually, it's Beethoven on the menu, served up by the L.A. Philharmonic.
I may be able to trade my tickets for the Friday night show.
Then I could have my (Gold Basin) cake and eat it too!
Linton

- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Hupe" 

To: "Linton Rohr" ; <>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson - activity first weekend



Ahoy Linton!

you wrote:
"This year, I had been planning on arriving Saturday the 30th, to get an
early start on my shopping, but I just realized I have concert tickets 
for
Sunday the 31st. I'm not sure weather to show up in Tucson Monday, or 
blow

off the concert. "

A Mineral Show is the only true "Rock Concert"! ;-)

Best regards,
Greg


Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
NaturesVault (eBay)
gmh...@htn.net
www.LunarRock.com
IMCA 3163





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[meteorite-list] Benson/Whetstone Request

2009-12-28 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All,
I've a week off and was wondering if any information regarding the
Benson/Whetstone mountains fall has been deemed releasable yet.
Any information regarding the location of the strewnfield, would be
appreciated...
Thanks,
Jason
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Deaths? Interesting old article-read

2009-12-28 Thread Sterling K. Webb

Hi, Matt, List,

On September 14, 1511, in Cremona in Lombardy,
Italy, a monk, several birds, and a sheep were killed
by meteorites.

Sometime between 1647 and 1654, two sailors on a
ship en route from Japan to Sicily, while in the Indian
Ocean, were killed by meteorites.

Sometime between 1633 and 1664, a monk in Milan
was killed by a meteorite which severed his femoral
artery, causing him to bleed to death.

Chinese records of lethal impact events include the
death of 10 victims from a meteorite fall in 616 AD, an
"iron rain" in the O-chia district in the 14th century
that killed people and animals, several soldiers injured
by the fall of a "large star" in Ho-t'ao in 1369, and many
others. The most startling is a report of an event in early
1490 in Ch'ing-yang, Shansi, in which many people
were killed when stones "fell like rain." Of the three
known surviving reports of this event, one says that
"over 10,000 people" were killed, and one says that
"several tens of thousands" were killed.

There is a discussion of these and many more such
incidents in John S. Lewis, "Rain of Iron and Ice," 1996.

One could collect pages and pages of early accounts of
meteorite falls and pages more of events that could well
be meteoritic although those that wrote the accounts
did not know of the idea that stones could fall from the
sky. You could fill a book... and people have.

A catalogue of meteorites is not a book of reported falls;
it is a book of collected and curated falls. The oldest
curated stone is NOGATA, which fell May 19, 861 AD.
It hit a shrine and has been kept there ever since. The
meteorite that hit a house in NARA (then the capital
city of Japan) in 764 AD doesn't count because nobody
has it safely curated.


...can they be substantiated?


No more or less than the rest of history. They tell me
Julius Caesar was assassinated. That's the story. Most
agree that it happened. No one wrote to deny it. It's the
story I always heard, so I believe it, like I do all the rest
of history. But I wasn't there, I haven't checked the DNA
on the dagger, I don't know where he was buried, I haven't
read the autopsy report. I'm more than a carpet fiber away
from proving the case...

Three Chinese historical chronicles recount the huge
meteorite fall and thousands of deaths in Ch'ing-yang,
Shansi, in late February or early March of 1490. It's as
much history as Caesar's assassination is, no more, no
less. It's as "substantiated" as any history. There were
no Ming Dynasty tabloid news stories. History-writing
was politically sensitive and historians were occasionally
executed for falsity, particularly about "heavenly" events.


Sterling K. Webb
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Deaths? Interesting old article-read



A friend sent this link to me in regard to the Bear Creek meteorite.


Near the end of the text it details the deaths of 3 monks and 2 
Swedish sailors by meteorite impact!

Has anyone heard of this?  The passage reads:

 "A few instances are on record of buildings being struck and set on 
fire and persons struck dead by the fall of aerolites.  These Three 
monks were killed, one on the 4th September 1611, at Crema (?), 
another at Milan, in 1650, and a third in the same place in 1660.  In 
1674 two Swedish sailors on board ship were killed by the fall of 
one."


Having never heard of this I searched the Catalog of Meteorites and 
came up blank.  Has anyone heard of these falls and can they be 
substantiated?


Matt Morgan
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Re: [meteorite-list] Lindfors avalanche!

2009-12-28 Thread Steve Dunklee
why not forward all his messages back to him but do it twice? if you really 
want to make a point put his address in a super spammer site that will send him 
10k emails a day. Actually it would be better to use your mail settings to 
block his ip address so if they change the  address it still goes into your 
spam box. the ip address should be attached to the documents or photos sent. 
yahoo stores them in a file called ypager. I'm not sure about other mail  
servers. I could tell you more if i could dissect one of the emails, but I am 
not interested in becoming one of the next victims.
Have a spam free day!
Steve

--- On Mon, 12/28/09, Randy Korotev  wrote:

> From: Randy Korotev 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lindfors avalanche!
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 1:15 PM
> I've asked him to stop, too, but he
> hasn't done it.  This calendar year I've received a
> minimum of 3801 e-mails from him (~11/day) with 84,805 JPG
> attachments.  I say "minimum" because our IT guy just
> trashes them if I don't clean up my mail box every few
> days.  I derive some bizarre pleasure from counting
> them.
> 
> 
> At 11:11 26-12-09 Saturday, you wrote:
> > Omg, I just got 20 Lindfors-o-grams all at once, with
> nearly 50 Mb of attached images. Has anybody figured out how
> to stop this spammer?
> > 
> > Jeff
> 
> Randy Korotev 
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