Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 31, 2009
Beautiful picture from Impactika! I'd like to order a poster size print of it for my room! lol Thank you Michael for bringing us RFSPOD. [Erik] Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:01:08 -0800 From: mich...@rocksfromspace.org To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 31, 2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/December_31_2009.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NEW YEARS GREETINGS FROM TIMES SQUARE
A brief note to wish everyone a healthy, happy and sweetand memorably wondrous New Year 2010. Warmly, Darryl __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Happy New Year!!
Hello All, I would like to wish everyone good Health, Wealth Wisdom in the New Year. I appreciate all who have worked with me in the past years. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] China's Antarctic expedition team finds first meteorite at Glove Mountain
Hi everyone, http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-12/31/content_12733922.htm And Happy New Year! Best regards, Charley Well, squids don't work. Hey! Let's try elephants ! Hannibal __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Year's Greetings + Meteorite Men News
Dear Listees: 2009 was a great year for meteorites! Congrats to all the researchers, hunters, collectors, dealers and accidental finders who helped recover so many new space rocks. Steve and I have wrapped up our last expedition of the year, and we have good news about Meteorite Men the series. The first of six new one-hour episodes will premiere on Science Channel on Wednesday, January 20 at 9 pm Eastern, immediately before the new season premiere of Mantracker. Our friends at Discovery Networks have produced two promo trailers for the show. The first, Legend, began airing last night on Science. It includes some clips from the show, some great animation, and unveils our cool new logo. The second spot, Crater, was filmed less than two weeks ago in Nevada, and will debut tomorrow. For those of you who don't get Science Channel, our pilot episode will air on January 19 on Discovery, and that's exciting news for us. No info yet about an international release, but it'll happen. If you'd like to be kept in the loop regarding the latest Meteorite Men news, please connect with us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/MeteoriteMen I regularly post updates along with exclusive behind-the-scenes location photos. Wishing everyone all the best for a great start to 2010 and I'm looking forward to seeing many of you in sunny Tucson in just a few weeks. Cheers, Geoff www.aerolite.org www.meteoritemen.com www.meteoriteblog.org __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] [AD] Buzzard Coulee is Here!
Dear Listees: My Buzzard hunting partner, Lisa Marie Morrison, and I received the best possible New Year's present a few days ago. Our Buzzard Coulee stones arrived safely in Arizona, complete with official Canadian Government export permits. Ours is the first batch of Buzzards to receive clearance for export from Canada. Thanks to our Canadian friends who generously helped us navigate the rather tortuous export process : ) For the past few days we've been busy filling Buzzard orders from my private customer list, but we still have a number of excellent fusion crusted stones available. Every piece purchased from us will be accompanied by exclusive documentation and photos. If you are interested in pricing and availability please contact me off-List. We will be keeping some stones for our private collections, and any not sold during the next few days will be added to my sale catalogue on www.aerolite.org We will also have some of our best finds on display in our showroom during the Tucson gem show: #230 at the InnSuites (AKA Hotel Tucson City Center). My private customer list always receives advance notice of new meteorite material, and special sales. If you'd like to be added to that list, please contact me privately. Photo journal of our Buzzard adventure: http://www.aerolite.org/expeditions/bc/buzzard-coulee-meteorite.htm Thanks for reading and best wishes from us, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org www.meteoritemen.com www.meteoriteblog.org __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD Tafassasset : 982 grams, on ebay. Price reduced
Hello List members, and best wishes for 2010. My 982 grams Tafassasset didn't sell on ebay so I decided to drastically reduce its price. Now I believe it's a fair and cool price for this new year so bid quickly : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=110475363049 Pierre __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Year's Greetings + Meteorite Men News
--- On Thu, 12/31/09, Notkin geok...@notkin.net wrote: ... The first, Legend, began airing last night on Science. It includes some clips from the show, some great animation, and unveils our cool new logo. I just turned on the Science Channel and caught the tail end of it during the last commercial break and saw the entire thing on the next commercial break 10 minutes later. Looking forward to seeing Episode 1. I'm sure it'll be the talk of The Show a month from now! A great new year to all of you and I too wish you all health, happiness and a wealth of new rocks. -- Richard Kowalski http://fullmoonphotography.net IMCA #1081 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Happy New Year
Everyone: I wish all a Happy new Year and a save and prosperous 2010. I just reserved my room in Tucson, so I'm looking forward to see you there. Greg S. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Buzzard Coulee Permitting Snafu
Sonny and I were at Buzzard Coulée the week it fell, as you all know. We recovered a good number of stones before the big snow hit. Permits were then applied for. I returned as the snow melted in April. I alone recovered hundreds of stones, giving half to the landowner, I still had over 2kg. These post winter stones were submitted for exportation as well. The Export Tribunal repeatedly delayed export and lumped the early permit with the later permit, then delayed both again and lumped those permit apps with other export apps from other hunters. Finally, the Tribunal noted that there was a good deal of material so the very late permit apps are apparently getting approved with no hold-back delays. Hence, Geoff Notkin and others have received their stones. Ya, ya, I know it is not fair, but that's how the cookie crumbles. As best I can tell, my stones will be arriving in March 2010. I recovered many that have orientation, most complete individuals 10-30g, and a few 50,100, 150 g stones. They will be available on www.outofabluesky.com at that time. The in situ stone pics and photos of the trip are on picassa http://picasaweb.google.com/mccartneytaylor __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites Of All Time
Hi All, Did anyone read the Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites of All Time list? http://science.discovery.com/top-ten/2009/meteors/meteors.html My article on MeteoriteBlog.com http://meteoriteblog.com/top-ten-meteorites-of-all-time-science-channel/ Opinions? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA Meteorite Blog Meteorite Wiki __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Happy New Year
Aloha listees, From voggy (volcanic fog) Hilo, Hawai'i, I would like to extend wishes for a Happy New Year to all of the meteorite hunters, collectors and dealers around this big blue planet. Rock On! Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (now visible on ebay Global Hub) (808) 640-9161 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites Of All Time
Hello Eric, All, We covered this on the list a while back - making such a list is pointless, because it depends on the criteria being most valued - current scientific importance, historical scientific importance, popular interest, historical value, aesthetics, or whatever else you deem important. That said, I agree that nine of the ten featured merit listing, but Wilamette...ok, it's big, but there are a number of larger meteorites. Eight, in fact. http://www.jensenmeteorites.com/largestmeteorites.htm There are also many meteorites with much more extensive histories like the Tucson Ring, Canyon Diablo, Campo del Cielo, etc. Yeah, it's in the AMNH, and it's one of their most impressive specimens. But in my opinion, that shouldn't put it on a list like this. Top 50? Probably, I don't know. Need to think about it. Top 10? No way. There are Campo's that beat its size, history, and scientific importance (Campo was cratering event, after all). Regards, Jason On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Hi All, Did anyone read the Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites of All Time list? http://science.discovery.com/top-ten/2009/meteors/meteors.html My article on MeteoriteBlog.com http://meteoriteblog.com/top-ten-meteorites-of-all-time-science-channel/ Opinions? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA Meteorite Blog Meteorite Wiki __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites Of All Time
Hi Jason, I agree and realize the Top Lists have been discussed, but my point was not about that or Willamette, or Hoba, or large meteorites at all. I was stating in my opinion that the #1 meteorite of ALL TIME should be the one in which another life form not from Earth is discovered. Isn't this why science exists in the first place, to learn, to gain knowledge,to understand, to find our origins, and to find other life forms. A big meteorite means nothing in the scheme of things other than it's BIG. Who cares how big a meteorite is really? There are millions of other BIG meteoroids and asteroids floating around in our solar system which have not impacted Earth that are much larger than anything ever discovered on Earth. Top 10 meteorites of all time is such a subjective list anyway, but my point is simple. What's more important, life or size? Shouldn't the possible discovery of another form of life originating from another planet outweigh a 60 ton meteorite? Regards, Eric On 12/31/2009 12:10 PM, Jason Utas wrote: Hello Eric, All, We covered this on the list a while back - making such a list is pointless, because it depends on the criteria being most valued - current scientific importance, historical scientific importance, popular interest, historical value, aesthetics, or whatever else you deem important. That said, I agree that nine of the ten featured merit listing, but Wilamette...ok, it's big, but there are a number of larger meteorites. Eight, in fact. http://www.jensenmeteorites.com/largestmeteorites.htm There are also many meteorites with much more extensive histories like the Tucson Ring, Canyon Diablo, Campo del Cielo, etc. Yeah, it's in the AMNH, and it's one of their most impressive specimens. But in my opinion, that shouldn't put it on a list like this. Top 50? Probably, I don't know. Need to think about it. Top 10? No way. There are Campo's that beat its size, history, and scientific importance (Campo was cratering event, after all). Regards, Jason On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Hi All, Did anyone read the Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites of All Time list? http://science.discovery.com/top-ten/2009/meteors/meteors.html My article on MeteoriteBlog.com http://meteoriteblog.com/top-ten-meteorites-of-all-time-science-channel/ Opinions? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA Meteorite Blog Meteorite Wiki __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites Of All Time
Hi Eric and List, An interesting little presentation, but I don't agree with some of the entries on the list. Let's start from #10 and work our way to the top. #10 - Allende. Allende certainly belongs on the list, but I think it may merit a higher rank than #10. #9 - Murchison. This one also belongs on the list, and based on the science alone, it should rank in the top 3 or top 5. Murchison has taught us much and it deserves a higher rank. #8 - Peekskill. A fine hammer fall and a great witnessed fall. I have no issues with this one, but Murchison should rank higher than Peekskill. #7 - Orgueil. Historical falls from previous centuries opens a whole new can of worms. If Orgueil is included, why not L'Aigle? Or why not another type fall like Nakhla? No offense to Orgueil, but this one is dubious entry on a list that is directed towards the mainstream lay-public audience. #6 - ALH 84001. This one should be #1 in my opinion. It is the Holy Grail of meteorites and it contains what many scientists agree is proof that life once existed on Mars. As the latest papers have revealed, the evidence for Martian life contained in this meteorite is increasingly solid. I can't think of a more significant meteorite than this one. #5 - Sylacauga. Mrs. Hodges would rank this one as #1. But is it more significant than ALH 84001? In my opinion, no. And couldn't they find a photo for it? A quick Google Image search or Encyclopedia of Meteorites search reveals several. #4 - Sikhote Alin. A great historical fall by all measures. I have no issue with this one, other than the obvious one - it shouldn't outrank ALH-84001. #3 - Willamette. Nice choice, but we are now seeing a definite bias on this list towards iron meteorites. If Willamette made the list, why not one (or more) of the Cape York masses? Heck, Murchison is certainly more significant than this one. #2 - Hoba. The world's biggest iron and it certainly belongs on the list. But if Hoba was selected, then why not Canyon Diablo? The glaring absence of Canyon Diablo is also made more curious by the inclusion of Willamette. #1 - Tunguska! ..a non-meteorite. This one is an odd choice. First, it's not a meteorite, it's an impact event. It was probably caused by a meteorite or comet, but no meteorites were recovered. And if we are going to include an impact event, why not Canyon Diablo? CD is more recognizable to the target audience of this list and there are tons of iron meteorites laying around to show for it. And if we are going to include speculative comets like Tunguska, then why not Tagish Lake? It's a fun list, but you can tell an intern put it together and not someone familiar with meteorites. Best regards and Happy New Year! MikeG On 12/31/09, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Hi All, Did anyone read the Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites of All Time list? http://science.discovery.com/top-ten/2009/meteors/meteors.html My article on MeteoriteBlog.com http://meteoriteblog.com/top-ten-meteorites-of-all-time-science-channel/ Opinions? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA Meteorite Blog Meteorite Wiki __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Eric and List, An interesting little presentation, but I don't agree with some of the entries on the list. Let's start from #10 and work our way to the top. #10 - Allende. Allende certainly belongs on the list, but I think it may merit a higher rank than #10. #9 - Murchison. This one also belongs on the list, and based on the science alone, it should rank in the top 3 or top 5. Murchison has taught us much and it deserves a higher rank. #8 - Peekskill. A fine hammer fall and a great witnessed fall. I have no issues with this one, but Murchison should rank higher than Peekskill. #7 - Orgueil. Historical falls from previous centuries opens a whole new can of worms. If Orgueil is included, why not L'Aigle? Or why not another type fall like Nakhla? No offense to Orgueil, but this one is dubious entry on a list that is directed towards the mainstream lay-public audience. #6 - ALH 84001. This one should be #1 in my opinion. It is the Holy Grail of meteorites and it contains what many scientists agree is proof that life once existed on Mars. As the latest papers have revealed, the evidence for Martian life contained in this meteorite is increasingly solid. I can't think of a more significant meteorite than this one. #5 - Sylacauga. Mrs. Hodges would rank this one as #1. But is it more significant than ALH 84001? In my opinion, no. And couldn't they find a photo for it? A quick Google Image search or Encyclopedia of Meteorites search reveals several. #4 - Sikhote Alin. A great historical fall by all measures. I have no issue with this one, other than the obvious one - it shouldn't outrank ALH-84001. #3 - Willamette. Nice choice, but we are now seeing a definite bias on this list towards iron meteorites. If Willamette made the list, why not one (or more) of the Cape York masses? Heck, Murchison is certainly more significant than this one. #2 - Hoba. The world's biggest iron and it certainly belongs on the list. But if Hoba was selected, then why not Canyon Diablo? The glaring absence of Canyon Diablo is also made more curious by the inclusion of Willamette. #1 - Tunguska! ..a non-meteorite. This one is an odd choice. First, it's not a meteorite, it's an impact event. It was probably caused by a meteorite or comet, but no meteorites were recovered. And if we are going to include an impact event, why not Canyon Diablo? CD is more recognizable to the target audience of this list and there are tons of iron meteorites laying around to show for it. And if we are going to include speculative comets like Tunguska, then why not Tagish Lake? It's a fun list, but you can tell an intern put it together and not someone familiar with meteorites. Best regards and Happy New Year! MikeG On 12/31/09, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Hi All, Did anyone read the Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites of All Time list? http://science.discovery.com/top-ten/2009/meteors/meteors.html My article on MeteoriteBlog.com http://meteoriteblog.com/top-ten-meteorites-of-all-time-science-channel/ Opinions? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA Meteorite Blog Meteorite Wiki __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites Of All Time
My point was not that we all disagree on the list, but rather the seemingly misplaced importance of the discovery of another life form from another planet and that that evidence was found in a meteorite. In my opinion, that trumps any other meteorite that has even been discovered. Regards, Eric On 12/31/2009 12:53 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Hi Eric and List, An interesting little presentation, but I don't agree with some of the entries on the list. :.It's a fun list, but you can tell an intern put it together and not someone familiar with meteorites. Best regards and Happy New Year! MikeG On 12/31/09, Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Hi All, Did anyone read the Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites of All Time list? http://science.discovery.com/top-ten/2009/meteors/meteors.html My article on MeteoriteBlog.com http://meteoriteblog.com/top-ten-meteorites-of-all-time-science-channel/ Opinions? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA Meteorite Blog Meteorite Wiki __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites Of All Time
My top 10 most important meteorites of the last 250 years, off the top of my head, in alphabetical order - Allan Hills A81005 Allan Hills 84001 Allende Canyon Diablo Elephant Moraine A79001 L'Aigle Murchison Orgueil Semarkona Siena Peekskill, Sylacauga, Willamette and Hoba aren't even close, and no more needs to be said about Tunguska, which would make my list if any were actually found. I wanted to put Pribram on the list, but couldn't fit it into the top 10. Yamato 691 was also tempting. Jeff On 2009-12-31 3:53 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Hi Eric and List, An interesting little presentation, but I don't agree with some of the entries on the list. Let's start from #10 and work our way to the top. #10 - Allende. Allende certainly belongs on the list, but I think it may merit a higher rank than #10. #9 - Murchison. This one also belongs on the list, and based on the science alone, it should rank in the top 3 or top 5. Murchison has taught us much and it deserves a higher rank. #8 - Peekskill. A fine hammer fall and a great witnessed fall. I have no issues with this one, but Murchison should rank higher than Peekskill. #7 - Orgueil. Historical falls from previous centuries opens a whole new can of worms. If Orgueil is included, why not L'Aigle? Or why not another type fall like Nakhla? No offense to Orgueil, but this one is dubious entry on a list that is directed towards the mainstream lay-public audience. #6 - ALH 84001. This one should be #1 in my opinion. It is the Holy Grail of meteorites and it contains what many scientists agree is proof that life once existed on Mars. As the latest papers have revealed, the evidence for Martian life contained in this meteorite is increasingly solid. I can't think of a more significant meteorite than this one. #5 - Sylacauga. Mrs. Hodges would rank this one as #1. But is it more significant than ALH 84001? In my opinion, no. And couldn't they find a photo for it? A quick Google Image search or Encyclopedia of Meteorites search reveals several. #4 - Sikhote Alin. A great historical fall by all measures. I have no issue with this one, other than the obvious one - it shouldn't outrank ALH-84001. #3 - Willamette. Nice choice, but we are now seeing a definite bias on this list towards iron meteorites. If Willamette made the list, why not one (or more) of the Cape York masses? Heck, Murchison is certainly more significant than this one. #2 - Hoba. The world's biggest iron and it certainly belongs on the list. But if Hoba was selected, then why not Canyon Diablo? The glaring absence of Canyon Diablo is also made more curious by the inclusion of Willamette. #1 - Tunguska! ..a non-meteorite. This one is an odd choice. First, it's not a meteorite, it's an impact event. It was probably caused by a meteorite or comet, but no meteorites were recovered. And if we are going to include an impact event, why not Canyon Diablo? CD is more recognizable to the target audience of this list and there are tons of iron meteorites laying around to show for it. And if we are going to include speculative comets like Tunguska, then why not Tagish Lake? It's a fun list, but you can tell an intern put it together and not someone familiar with meteorites. Best regards and Happy New Year! MikeG On 12/31/09, Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Hi All, Did anyone read the Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites of All Time list? http://science.discovery.com/top-ten/2009/meteors/meteors.html My article on MeteoriteBlog.com http://meteoriteblog.com/top-ten-meteorites-of-all-time-science-channel/ Opinions? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA Meteorite Blog Meteorite Wiki __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184 US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites Of All Time
A. Now there's an interesting perspective. Thanks Jeff. While I have fewer of those in my collection, it gives me more to add to my shopping list. g Or at least, more to think about. Linton - Original Message - From: Jeff Grossman jgross...@usgs.gov To: Meteorite-list Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites Of All Time My top 10 most important meteorites of the last 250 years, off the top of my head, in alphabetical order - Allan Hills A81005 Allan Hills 84001 Allende Canyon Diablo Elephant Moraine A79001 L'Aigle Murchison Orgueil Semarkona Siena Peekskill, Sylacauga, Willamette and Hoba aren't even close, and no more needs to be said about Tunguska, which would make my list if any were actually found. I wanted to put Pribram on the list, but couldn't fit it into the top 10. Yamato 691 was also tempting. Jeff On 2009-12-31 3:53 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Hi Eric and List, An interesting little presentation, but I don't agree with some of the entries on the list. Let's start from #10 and work our way to the top. #10 - Allende. Allende certainly belongs on the list, but I think it may merit a higher rank than #10. #9 - Murchison. This one also belongs on the list, and based on the science alone, it should rank in the top 3 or top 5. Murchison has taught us much and it deserves a higher rank. #8 - Peekskill. A fine hammer fall and a great witnessed fall. I have no issues with this one, but Murchison should rank higher than Peekskill. #7 - Orgueil. Historical falls from previous centuries opens a whole new can of worms. If Orgueil is included, why not L'Aigle? Or why not another type fall like Nakhla? No offense to Orgueil, but this one is dubious entry on a list that is directed towards the mainstream lay-public audience. #6 - ALH 84001. This one should be #1 in my opinion. It is the Holy Grail of meteorites and it contains what many scientists agree is proof that life once existed on Mars. As the latest papers have revealed, the evidence for Martian life contained in this meteorite is increasingly solid. I can't think of a more significant meteorite than this one. #5 - Sylacauga. Mrs. Hodges would rank this one as #1. But is it more significant than ALH 84001? In my opinion, no. And couldn't they find a photo for it? A quick Google Image search or Encyclopedia of Meteorites search reveals several. #4 - Sikhote Alin. A great historical fall by all measures. I have no issue with this one, other than the obvious one - it shouldn't outrank ALH-84001. #3 - Willamette. Nice choice, but we are now seeing a definite bias on this list towards iron meteorites. If Willamette made the list, why not one (or more) of the Cape York masses? Heck, Murchison is certainly more significant than this one. #2 - Hoba. The world's biggest iron and it certainly belongs on the list. But if Hoba was selected, then why not Canyon Diablo? The glaring absence of Canyon Diablo is also made more curious by the inclusion of Willamette. #1 - Tunguska! ..a non-meteorite. This one is an odd choice. First, it's not a meteorite, it's an impact event. It was probably caused by a meteorite or comet, but no meteorites were recovered. And if we are going to include an impact event, why not Canyon Diablo? CD is more recognizable to the target audience of this list and there are tons of iron meteorites laying around to show for it. And if we are going to include speculative comets like Tunguska, then why not Tagish Lake? It's a fun list, but you can tell an intern put it together and not someone familiar with meteorites. Best regards and Happy New Year! MikeG On 12/31/09, Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Hi All, Did anyone read the Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites of All Time list? http://science.discovery.com/top-ten/2009/meteors/meteors.html My article on MeteoriteBlog.com http://meteoriteblog.com/top-ten-meteorites-of-all-time-science-channel/ Opinions? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA Meteorite Blog Meteorite Wiki __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184 US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites Of All Time
Hello Mike, On the contrary, Orguiel is a CI1, and is thus one of the most primitive pieces of matter on the planet. It hasn't experienced temperatures above about 200C - and contains a multitude of complex organic molecules, just like Murchison. The only reason more work hasn't been done on it is because there's simply not that much to go around - it's much less common than its Australian rival. But, yes, perhaps Tagish lake should belong on the list, as it *is* the freshest available sample of such material available to modern science. And Orgueil's historic, to boot! Great rock, that. Such meteorites likely contained the building blocks of the earliest organisms, as they seeded planets that, science tells us, would have been devoid of complex organic molecules and water, those compounds that are so necessary for the existence of life as we know it. #2 - Hoba. The world's biggest iron and it certainly belongs on the list. But if Hoba was selected, then why not Canyon Diablo? The glaring absence of Canyon Diablo is also made more curious by the inclusion of Willamette. That's all very well, but I don't know what you mean by a bias towards irons. The only one I see that doesn't belong is Wilamette, and I think we're in agreement that it should be replaced by either Canyon Diablo or Campo del Cielo. Also, the whole life in ALH 84001 thing...it could well be, but until that's proven, I don't think you can really say it's the most important meteorite that we have. It could be proof of extraterrestrial life, but it might just be a cool Shergottite. Until that's *proven,* you're just looking at another Port Orford, or a Chinguetti of the scientific world, so to speak. But we're degenerating into making personal lists of ten again...there it goes Regards, Jason On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Eric and List, An interesting little presentation, but I don't agree with some of the entries on the list. Let's start from #10 and work our way to the top. #10 - Allende. Allende certainly belongs on the list, but I think it may merit a higher rank than #10. #9 - Murchison. This one also belongs on the list, and based on the science alone, it should rank in the top 3 or top 5. Murchison has taught us much and it deserves a higher rank. #8 - Peekskill. A fine hammer fall and a great witnessed fall. I have no issues with this one, but Murchison should rank higher than Peekskill. #7 - Orgueil. Historical falls from previous centuries opens a whole new can of worms. If Orgueil is included, why not L'Aigle? Or why not another type fall like Nakhla? No offense to Orgueil, but this one is dubious entry on a list that is directed towards the mainstream lay-public audience. #6 - ALH 84001. This one should be #1 in my opinion. It is the Holy Grail of meteorites and it contains what many scientists agree is proof that life once existed on Mars. As the latest papers have revealed, the evidence for Martian life contained in this meteorite is increasingly solid. I can't think of a more significant meteorite than this one. #5 - Sylacauga. Mrs. Hodges would rank this one as #1. But is it more significant than ALH 84001? In my opinion, no. And couldn't they find a photo for it? A quick Google Image search or Encyclopedia of Meteorites search reveals several. #4 - Sikhote Alin. A great historical fall by all measures. I have no issue with this one, other than the obvious one - it shouldn't outrank ALH-84001. #3 - Willamette. Nice choice, but we are now seeing a definite bias on this list towards iron meteorites. If Willamette made the list, why not one (or more) of the Cape York masses? Heck, Murchison is certainly more significant than this one. #2 - Hoba. The world's biggest iron and it certainly belongs on the list. But if Hoba was selected, then why not Canyon Diablo? The glaring absence of Canyon Diablo is also made more curious by the inclusion of Willamette. #1 - Tunguska! ..a non-meteorite. This one is an odd choice. First, it's not a meteorite, it's an impact event. It was probably caused by a meteorite or comet, but no meteorites were recovered. And if we are going to include an impact event, why not Canyon Diablo? CD is more recognizable to the target audience of this list and there are tons of iron meteorites laying around to show for it. And if we are going to include speculative comets like Tunguska, then why not Tagish Lake? It's a fun list, but you can tell an intern put it together and not someone familiar with meteorites. Best regards and Happy New Year! MikeG On 12/31/09, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Hi All, Did anyone read the Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites of All Time list? http://science.discovery.com/top-ten/2009/meteors/meteors.html My article on MeteoriteBlog.com
[meteorite-list] NASA's Mars Rover Has Uncertain Future as Sixth Anniversary Nears
Dec. 31, 2009 Dwayne Brown Headquarters, Washington 202-358-1726 dwayne.c.br...@nasa.gov Guy Webster/Veronica McGregor Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. 818-354-5011 guy.webs...@jpl.nasa.gov, veronica.mcgre...@jpl.nasa.gov RELEASE: 09-297 NASA'S MARS ROVER HAS UNCERTAIN FUTURE AS SIXTH ANNIVERSARY NEARS PASADENA, Calif. -- NASA's Mars rover Spirit will mark six years of unprecedented science exploration and inspiration for the American public on Sunday. However, the upcoming Martian winter could end the roving career of the beloved, scrappy robot. Spirit successfully landed on the Red Planet at 8:35 p.m. PST on Jan. 3, 2004, and its twin Opportunity arrived at 9:05 p.m. Jan. 24, 2004. The rovers began missions intended to last for three months but which have lasted six Earth years, or 3.2 Mars years. During this time, Spirit has found evidence of a steamy and violent environment on ancient Mars that was quite different from the wet and acidic past documented by Opportunity, which has been operating successfully as it explores halfway around the planet. A sand trap and balky wheels are challenges to Spirit's mobility that could prevent NASA's rover team from using a key survival strategy for the rover. The team may not be able to position the robot's solar panels to tilt toward the sun to collect power for heat to survive the severe Martian winter. Nine months ago, Spirit's wheels broke through a crusty surface layer into loose sand hidden underneath. Efforts to escape this sand trap barely have budged the rover. The rover's inability to use all six wheels for driving has worsened the predicament. Spirit's right-front wheel quit working in 2006, and its right-rear wheel stalled a month ago. Surprisingly, the right-front wheel resumed working, though intermittently. Drives with four or five operating wheels have produced little progress toward escaping the sand trap. The latest attempts resulted in the rover sinking deeper in the soil. The highest priority for this mission right now is to stay mobile, if that's possible, said Steve Squyres of Cornell University in Ithaca, N.Y. He is principal investigator for the rovers. If mobility is not possible, the next priority is to improve the rover's tilt, while Spirit is able to generate enough electricity to turn its wheels. Spirit is in the southern hemisphere of Mars, where it is autumn, and the amount of daily sunshine available for the solar-powered rover is declining. This could result in ceasing extraction activities as early as January, depending on the amount of remaining power. Spirit's tilt, nearly five degrees toward the south, is unfavorable because the winter sun crosses low in the northern sky. Unless the tilt can be improved or luck with winds affects the gradual buildup of dust on the solar panels, the amount of sunshine available will continue to decline until May 2010. During May, or perhaps earlier, Spirit may not have enough power to remain in operation. At the current rate of dust accumulation, solar arrays at zero tilt would provide barely enough energy to run the survival heaters through the Mars winter solstice, said Jennifer Herman, a rover power engineer at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. The team is evaluating strategies for improving the tilt even if Spirit cannot escape the sand trap, such as trying to dig in deeper with the wheels on the north side. In February, NASA will assess Mars missions, including Spirit, for their potential science versus costs to determine how to distribute limited resources. Meanwhile, the team is planning additional research about what a stationary Spirit could accomplish as power wanes. Spirit could continue significant research right where it is, said Ray Arvidson of Washington University in St. Louis, deputy principal investigator for the rovers. We can study the interior of Mars, monitor the weather and continue examining the interesting deposits uncovered by Spirit's wheels. A study of the planet's interior would use radio transmissions to measure wobble of the planet's axis of rotation, which is not feasible with a mobile rover. That experiment and others might provide more and different findings from a mission that has already far exceeded expectations. Long-term change in the spin direction could tell us about the diameter and density of the planet's core, said William Folkner of JPL. He has been developing plans for conducting this experiment with a future, stationary Mars lander. Short-period changes could tell us whether the core is liquid or solid, he said. In 2004, Opportunity discovered the first mineralogical evidence that Mars had liquid water. The rover recently finished a two-year investigation of a half-mile wide crater called Victoria and now is headed toward Endeavor crater, which is approximately seven miles from Victoria and nearly 14 miles across. Since
Re: [meteorite-list] Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites Of All Time
Mike, List, Perhaps the point of the Top Ten list is not to make a Top Ten list at all, but rather a conversation piece and publicity generating article simply to gain traffic. I mean we are after all speaking about it at length and have done so in the past as well... @Jason - In regards to ALH 84001, on the contrary. The difference between proven and unproven is irrelevant. The point is the evidence and possibility is there, which no other meteorite has, and that by itself should make it the most important meteorite (for now at least), regardless of whether it is solid proof of life. Does that make sense? If by chance science is wrong and it's not proof of extraterrestrial life it can be removed from the top of the list easily enough. I guess importance is subjective to personal preference and not science. Regards, Eric On 12/31/2009 1:59 PM, Jason Utas wrote: Hello Mike, On the contrary, Orguiel is a CI1, and is thus one of the most primitive pieces of matter on the planet. It hasn't experienced temperatures above about 200C - and contains a multitude of complex organic molecules, just like Murchison. The only reason more work hasn't been done on it is because there's simply not that much to go around - it's much less common than its Australian rival. But, yes, perhaps Tagish lake should belong on the list, as it *is* the freshest available sample of such material available to modern science. And Orgueil's historic, to boot! Great rock, that. Such meteorites likely contained the building blocks of the earliest organisms, as they seeded planets that, science tells us, would have been devoid of complex organic molecules and water, those compounds that are so necessary for the existence of life as we know it. #2 - Hoba. The world's biggest iron and it certainly belongs on the list. But if Hoba was selected, then why not Canyon Diablo? The glaring absence of Canyon Diablo is also made more curious by the inclusion of Willamette. That's all very well, but I don't know what you mean by a bias towards irons. The only one I see that doesn't belong is Wilamette, and I think we're in agreement that it should be replaced by either Canyon Diablo or Campo del Cielo. Also, the whole life in ALH 84001 thing...it could well be, but until that's proven, I don't think you can really say it's the most important meteorite that we have. It could be proof of extraterrestrial life, but it might just be a cool Shergottite. Until that's *proven,* you're just looking at another Port Orford, or a Chinguetti of the scientific world, so to speak. But we're degenerating into making personal lists of ten again...there it goes Regards, Jason On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Eric and List, An interesting little presentation, but I don't agree with some of the entries on the list. Let's start from #10 and work our way to the top. #10 - Allende. Allende certainly belongs on the list, but I think it may merit a higher rank than #10. #9 - Murchison. This one also belongs on the list, and based on the science alone, it should rank in the top 3 or top 5. Murchison has taught us much and it deserves a higher rank. #8 - Peekskill. A fine hammer fall and a great witnessed fall. I have no issues with this one, but Murchison should rank higher than Peekskill. #7 - Orgueil. Historical falls from previous centuries opens a whole new can of worms. If Orgueil is included, why not L'Aigle? Or why not another type fall like Nakhla? No offense to Orgueil, but this one is dubious entry on a list that is directed towards the mainstream lay-public audience. #6 - ALH 84001. This one should be #1 in my opinion. It is the Holy Grail of meteorites and it contains what many scientists agree is proof that life once existed on Mars. As the latest papers have revealed, the evidence for Martian life contained in this meteorite is increasingly solid. I can't think of a more significant meteorite than this one. #5 - Sylacauga. Mrs. Hodges would rank this one as #1. But is it more significant than ALH 84001? In my opinion, no. And couldn't they find a photo for it? A quick Google Image search or Encyclopedia of Meteorites search reveals several. #4 - Sikhote Alin. A great historical fall by all measures. I have no issue with this one, other than the obvious one - it shouldn't outrank ALH-84001. #3 - Willamette. Nice choice, but we are now seeing a definite bias on this list towards iron meteorites. If Willamette made the list, why not one (or more) of the Cape York masses? Heck, Murchison is certainly more significant than this one. #2 - Hoba. The world's biggest iron and it certainly belongs on the list. But if Hoba was selected, then why not Canyon Diablo? The glaring absence of Canyon Diablo is also made more curious by the inclusion of Willamette. #1 - Tunguska! ..a non-meteorite. This one is an odd
[meteorite-list] Happy New Year
Happy New Year to all List members! May 2010 bring you many more meteorites and anything else you desire. And most of all: May 2010 bring us all a lot of Peace, Calm and Quiet everywhere around our blue globe. (from snowy Denver Colorado. Still many hours from the New Year.) Anne M. Black http://www.impactika.com/ impact...@aol.com Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. http://www.imca.cc/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites Of All Time
Hello Eric, All, I would disagree. Since we really don't know what made those features, you're simply dealing with little inorganic structures that science says are similar to those made by organisms on Earth. You can hype them up in the media until the cows come home, and wish for life on Mars until you die, but until you find proof, that's all you have. I've got nothing against the idea, but this whole thing is kind of ridiculous; I'm waiting for a substantial bit of proof before I start calling something important, as opposed to an interesting mineral formation. Happy New Years, Jason On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Mike, List, Perhaps the point of the Top Ten list is not to make a Top Ten list at all, but rather a conversation piece and publicity generating article simply to gain traffic. I mean we are after all speaking about it at length and have done so in the past as well... @Jason - In regards to ALH 84001, on the contrary. The difference between proven and unproven is irrelevant. The point is the evidence and possibility is there, which no other meteorite has, and that by itself should make it the most important meteorite (for now at least), regardless of whether it is solid proof of life. Does that make sense? If by chance science is wrong and it's not proof of extraterrestrial life it can be removed from the top of the list easily enough. I guess importance is subjective to personal preference and not science. Regards, Eric On 12/31/2009 1:59 PM, Jason Utas wrote: Hello Mike, On the contrary, Orguiel is a CI1, and is thus one of the most primitive pieces of matter on the planet. It hasn't experienced temperatures above about 200C - and contains a multitude of complex organic molecules, just like Murchison. The only reason more work hasn't been done on it is because there's simply not that much to go around - it's much less common than its Australian rival. But, yes, perhaps Tagish lake should belong on the list, as it *is* the freshest available sample of such material available to modern science. And Orgueil's historic, to boot! Great rock, that. Such meteorites likely contained the building blocks of the earliest organisms, as they seeded planets that, science tells us, would have been devoid of complex organic molecules and water, those compounds that are so necessary for the existence of life as we know it. #2 - Hoba. The world's biggest iron and it certainly belongs on the list. But if Hoba was selected, then why not Canyon Diablo? The glaring absence of Canyon Diablo is also made more curious by the inclusion of Willamette. That's all very well, but I don't know what you mean by a bias towards irons. The only one I see that doesn't belong is Wilamette, and I think we're in agreement that it should be replaced by either Canyon Diablo or Campo del Cielo. Also, the whole life in ALH 84001 thing...it could well be, but until that's proven, I don't think you can really say it's the most important meteorite that we have. It could be proof of extraterrestrial life, but it might just be a cool Shergottite. Until that's *proven,* you're just looking at another Port Orford, or a Chinguetti of the scientific world, so to speak. But we're degenerating into making personal lists of ten again...there it goes Regards, Jason On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Eric and List, An interesting little presentation, but I don't agree with some of the entries on the list. Let's start from #10 and work our way to the top. #10 - Allende. Allende certainly belongs on the list, but I think it may merit a higher rank than #10. #9 - Murchison. This one also belongs on the list, and based on the science alone, it should rank in the top 3 or top 5. Murchison has taught us much and it deserves a higher rank. #8 - Peekskill. A fine hammer fall and a great witnessed fall. I have no issues with this one, but Murchison should rank higher than Peekskill. #7 - Orgueil. Historical falls from previous centuries opens a whole new can of worms. If Orgueil is included, why not L'Aigle? Or why not another type fall like Nakhla? No offense to Orgueil, but this one is dubious entry on a list that is directed towards the mainstream lay-public audience. #6 - ALH 84001. This one should be #1 in my opinion. It is the Holy Grail of meteorites and it contains what many scientists agree is proof that life once existed on Mars. As the latest papers have revealed, the evidence for Martian life contained in this meteorite is increasingly solid. I can't think of a more significant meteorite than this one. #5 - Sylacauga. Mrs. Hodges would rank this one as #1. But is it more significant than ALH 84001? In my opinion, no. And couldn't they find a photo for it? A quick Google Image search or Encyclopedia
Re: [meteorite-list] Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites Of All Time
Not so fast!! The list provided by the Science Channel was surely the result of tremendous consideration and is BRILLIANT and SPOT ON(and the Macovich Collection's control of the largest privately owned specimens of #3, #7 and #8 is purely coincidental ;-) Seriously? The Science Channel list is...problematic. On Dec 31, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote: My top 10 most important meteorites of the last 250 years, off the top of my head, in alphabetical order - Allan Hills A81005 Allan Hills 84001 Allende Canyon Diablo Elephant Moraine A79001 L'Aigle Murchison Orgueil Semarkona Siena Peekskill, Sylacauga, Willamette and Hoba aren't even close, and no more needs to be said about Tunguska, which would make my list if any were actually found. I wanted to put Pribram on the list, but couldn't fit it into the top 10. Yamato 691 was also tempting. Jeff On 2009-12-31 3:53 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Hi Eric and List, An interesting little presentation, but I don't agree with some of the entries on the list. Let's start from #10 and work our way to the top. #10 - Allende. Allende certainly belongs on the list, but I think it may merit a higher rank than #10. #9 - Murchison. This one also belongs on the list, and based on the science alone, it should rank in the top 3 or top 5. Murchison has taught us much and it deserves a higher rank. #8 - Peekskill. A fine hammer fall and a great witnessed fall. I have no issues with this one, but Murchison should rank higher than Peekskill. #7 - Orgueil. Historical falls from previous centuries opens a whole new can of worms. If Orgueil is included, why not L'Aigle? Or why not another type fall like Nakhla? No offense to Orgueil, but this one is dubious entry on a list that is directed towards the mainstream lay-public audience. #6 - ALH 84001. This one should be #1 in my opinion. It is the Holy Grail of meteorites and it contains what many scientists agree is proof that life once existed on Mars. As the latest papers have revealed, the evidence for Martian life contained in this meteorite is increasingly solid. I can't think of a more significant meteorite than this one. #5 - Sylacauga. Mrs. Hodges would rank this one as #1. But is it more significant than ALH 84001? In my opinion, no. And couldn't they find a photo for it? A quick Google Image search or Encyclopedia of Meteorites search reveals several. #4 - Sikhote Alin. A great historical fall by all measures. I have no issue with this one, other than the obvious one - it shouldn't outrank ALH-84001. #3 - Willamette. Nice choice, but we are now seeing a definite bias on this list towards iron meteorites. If Willamette made the list, why not one (or more) of the Cape York masses? Heck, Murchison is certainly more significant than this one. #2 - Hoba. The world's biggest iron and it certainly belongs on the list. But if Hoba was selected, then why not Canyon Diablo? The glaring absence of Canyon Diablo is also made more curious by the inclusion of Willamette. #1 - Tunguska! ..a non-meteorite. This one is an odd choice. First, it's not a meteorite, it's an impact event. It was probably caused by a meteorite or comet, but no meteorites were recovered. And if we are going to include an impact event, why not Canyon Diablo? CD is more recognizable to the target audience of this list and there are tons of iron meteorites laying around to show for it. And if we are going to include speculative comets like Tunguska, then why not Tagish Lake? It's a fun list, but you can tell an intern put it together and not someone familiar with meteorites. Best regards and Happy New Year! MikeG On 12/31/09, Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Hi All, Did anyone read the Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites of All Time list? http://science.discovery.com/top-ten/2009/meteors/meteors.html My article on MeteoriteBlog.com http://meteoriteblog.com/top-ten-meteorites-of-all-time-science-channel/ Opinions? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA Meteorite Blog Meteorite Wiki __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184 US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Happy New Year!!
Happy New Year . I wish you all much Peace, Happiness, Love, Joy and Prosperity in 2010 !!! and meteorites too...;-) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites Of All Time
Hi Folks, Yeah, I was being arbitrary in my observations to that list. It did generate some fun and useful discussion, so the writer(s) succeeded on that count. :) About ALH 84001 - When NASA made that infamous press conference announcement back in 1996, there were some strong questions about the evidence. Many scientists were skeptical and a lot of work remained to be done. Well, it's 14 years later and a ton of research has been done on this specimen since then. One by one, the objections to the evidence are falling away as new data comes to light. I'd love to hear someone closer to the subject present some opinion on this, but it is my understanding that the current consensus is leaning ever closer towards positive proof of former life on Mars. It's the closest thing to a smoking gun that we have and when it's taken into a larger context of what we know about Mars, it's a big crucial piece of the puzzle that fits neatly into place. A collector's specimen would go - this meteorite has everything a find could possibly have. It's truly a Holy Grail that any of us would jump at the chance of owning the tiniest Bessey Speck. And as Jason said, even if the evidence turns out to be false or terrestrial contamination, it's still a very interesting shergottite. Jason - point taken about Orgueil. It's a pity we don't have an Allende-like TKW of Orgueil laying around. I take back what I said about a bias towards irons on the list. Let's take a look at the list again - Carbonaceous chondrites - 3 (Allende, Murchison, Orgueil) Irons - 3 (Sikhote Alin, Willamette, Hoba) Ordinary chondrites - 2 (Peekskill, Sylacauga) Planetary achondrites - 1 (ALH 84001) Non-meteorite - 1 (Tunguska) 3 of the top 4 entries are irons and 3 of the top 3 meteorites are irons. 2 ordinary chondrites made the list because they are hammer falls. Only one planetary and no lunar entry. Noticeably absent are pallasites. Sikhote made the list, in part, because of it's aesthetic appeal. If aesthetics is taken into account, then a variety of pallasites are standing in line waiting for inclusion on that list. No HEDO's are present - surely a piece of asteroid Vesta merits making the list. Of course, this is a top-10 list, so it's hard to pick only 10 meteorites out of thousands of candidates, but perhaps the irons and carbonaceous types could have been reduced to 1 entry each and the remaining 4 entries spread about to include other interesting types like lunars and pallasites. Tunguska should have been an honorable mention, at best. Best regards and Happy New Year! (I hope 2010 is a lot better than 2009 was!) MikeG The On 12/31/09, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Mike, List, Perhaps the point of the Top Ten list is not to make a Top Ten list at all, but rather a conversation piece and publicity generating article simply to gain traffic. I mean we are after all speaking about it at length and have done so in the past as well... @Jason - In regards to ALH 84001, on the contrary. The difference between proven and unproven is irrelevant. The point is the evidence and possibility is there, which no other meteorite has, and that by itself should make it the most important meteorite (for now at least), regardless of whether it is solid proof of life. Does that make sense? If by chance science is wrong and it's not proof of extraterrestrial life it can be removed from the top of the list easily enough. I guess importance is subjective to personal preference and not science. Regards, Eric On 12/31/2009 1:59 PM, Jason Utas wrote: Hello Mike, On the contrary, Orguiel is a CI1, and is thus one of the most primitive pieces of matter on the planet. It hasn't experienced temperatures above about 200C - and contains a multitude of complex organic molecules, just like Murchison. The only reason more work hasn't been done on it is because there's simply not that much to go around - it's much less common than its Australian rival. But, yes, perhaps Tagish lake should belong on the list, as it *is* the freshest available sample of such material available to modern science. And Orgueil's historic, to boot! Great rock, that. Such meteorites likely contained the building blocks of the earliest organisms, as they seeded planets that, science tells us, would have been devoid of complex organic molecules and water, those compounds that are so necessary for the existence of life as we know it. #2 - Hoba. The world's biggest iron and it certainly belongs on the list. But if Hoba was selected, then why not Canyon Diablo? The glaring absence of Canyon Diablo is also made more curious by the inclusion of Willamette. That's all very well, but I don't know what you mean by a bias towards irons. The only one I see that doesn't belong is Wilamette, and I think we're in agreement that it should be replaced by either Canyon Diablo or Campo del Cielo. Also, the whole life in ALH
[meteorite-list] favorite meteorite list
I could only get my list of favorites down to twenty. In a word I simply think of these meteorites as 'cool'. Allan Hills 84001 Allende Almahata Sitta Angra Dos Reis Axtell D'Orbigny Governador Valadares Gujba Ibitira Krymka Lodran Murchison Nahkla Orgueil Renazzo Serra De Mage Sikhote-Alin Tagish Lake Vigarano Zag Edwin __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] China's Antarctic Expedition Team Finds First Meteorite at Glove Mountain
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-12/31/content_12733922.htm China's Antarctic expedition team finds first meteorite at Glove Mountain www.chinaview.cn GLOVE MOUNTAIN, Antarctica, Dec. 30 (Xinhua) -- China's 26th Antarctic expedition team discovered its first meteorite at Antarctica's Glove Mountain Wednesday afternoon. The team found the meteorite at the southern foot of Glove Mountain's peak, said Dr. Hu Sen, a researcher at the Institute of Geology and Geophysics of the Chinese Academy of Sciences. It is highly probable (that it is) a Chondrite judging from the failure surface, said Hu, adding that the meteorite weighed 221.5 grams. Efflorescence makes it hard for meteorites to stay in densely populated areas, Hu explained, but they could last for millions of years in Antarctica's dry, cold weather. Many of such meteorites were stopped by the mountains as they were carried along by running glaciers, he said. Therefore, a lot of meteorites could be found around the Antarctic mountain areas. The Glove Mountain area, 400 km from China's Zhongshan Station, has proved to be one of the world's richest meteorite reserves. China has so far discovered 9,834 meteorites, including two Martian and several other special types of meteorites -- the third largest meteorite collection after Japan and the United States. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] China's Antarctic Expedition Team Finds First Meteorite at Glove Mountain
That's GROVE Mountains. Looks like a transliteration problem. Jeff On 2009-12-31 6:17 PM, Ron Baalke wrote: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-12/31/content_12733922.htm China's Antarctic expedition team finds first meteorite at Glove Mountain www.chinaview.cn GLOVE MOUNTAIN, Antarctica, Dec. 30 (Xinhua) -- China's 26th Antarctic expedition team discovered its first meteorite at Antarctica's Glove Mountain Wednesday afternoon. The team found the meteorite at the southern foot of Glove Mountain's peak, said Dr. Hu Sen, a researcher at the Institute of Geology and Geophysics of the Chinese Academy of Sciences. It is highly probable (that it is) a Chondrite judging from the failure surface, said Hu, adding that the meteorite weighed 221.5 grams. Efflorescence makes it hard for meteorites to stay in densely populated areas, Hu explained, but they could last for millions of years in Antarctica's dry, cold weather. Many of such meteorites were stopped by the mountains as they were carried along by running glaciers, he said. Therefore, a lot of meteorites could be found around the Antarctic mountain areas. The Glove Mountain area, 400 km from China's Zhongshan Station, has proved to be one of the world's richest meteorite reserves. China has so far discovered 9,834 meteorites, including two Martian and several other special types of meteorites -- the third largest meteorite collection after Japan and the United States. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184 US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Happy New Year
Hi list members, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2010 to all the list members . BONNE ET HEUREUSE ANNEE 2010 a tous le monde . Said Haddany __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [COMETS] Happy New Year
Hi Anne, And a Happy New Year to you too! I just retired today so I'm going into 2010 not knowing what's ahead but I'm really getting excited. Maybe now, I will finally get a chance to take a few trips to hunt meteorites like I have wanted to do for some time now. I hope the new year is a banner year for all the meteorite dealers. Keep all that snow over there, will ya? We had a beautiful day over here today on the western slope. Didn't mind the shirt sleeve temperatures at all. All the best to you Anne, and to all the other Comet Club members. Now back to celebrating my last day on the job. Mike in Montrose On Dec 31, 2009, at 3:38 PM, impact...@aol.com wrote: Happy New Year to all List members! May 2010 bring you many more meteorites and anything else you desire. And most of all: May 2010 bring us all a lot of Peace, Calm and Quiet everywhere around our blue globe. (from snowy Denver Colorado. Still many hours from the New Year.) Anne M. Black http://www.impactika.com/ impact...@aol.com Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. http://www.imca.cc/ __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (2) RECENT ACTIVITY: Visit Your Group Start a New Topic MARKETPLACE Going Green: Your Yahoo! Groups resource for green living Going Green: Your Yahoo! Groups resource for green living Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Buzzard Coulee Permitting Snafu
Thanks for the heads up Mccartney. I think I will wait for the ones you and Sonny collected before the snow. No use taking any chances on rusting issues. Gary From: mccart...@blackbearddata.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:24:33 -0600 Subject: [meteorite-list] Buzzard Coulee Permitting Snafu Sonny and I were at Buzzard Coulée the week it fell, as you all know. We recovered a good number of stones before the big snow hit. Permits were then applied for. I returned as the snow melted in April. I alone recovered hundreds of stones, giving half to the landowner, I still had over 2kg. These post winter stones were submitted for exportation as well. The Export Tribunal repeatedly delayed export and lumped the early permit with the later permit, then delayed both again and lumped those permit apps with other export apps from other hunters. Finally, the Tribunal noted that there was a good deal of material so the very late permit apps are apparently getting approved with no hold-back delays. Hence, Geoff Notkin and others have received their stones. Ya, ya, I know it is not fair, but that's how the cookie crumbles. As best I can tell, my stones will be arriving in March 2010. I recovered many that have orientation, most complete individuals 10-30g, and a few 50,100, 150 g stones. They will be available on www.outofabluesky.com at that time. The in situ stone pics and photos of the trip are on picassa http://picasaweb.google.com/mccartneytaylor __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites Of All Time
Jeff, List, Good list but, I would have to squeeze Carancas in there somewhere. Very few meteorites have posed as many questions while at the same time providing many new answers. Too many to list here but it has all the bells and whistles to go along with the Scientific interests. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Jeff Grossman jgross...@usgs.gov wrote: My top 10 most important meteorites of the last 250 years, off the top of my head, in alphabetical order - Allan Hills A81005 Allan Hills 84001 Allende Canyon Diablo Elephant Moraine A79001 L'Aigle Murchison Orgueil Semarkona Siena Peekskill, Sylacauga, Willamette and Hoba aren't even close, and no more needs to be said about Tunguska, which would make my list if any were actually found. I wanted to put Pribram on the list, but couldn't fit it into the top 10. Yamato 691 was also tempting. Jeff On 2009-12-31 3:53 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Hi Eric and List, An interesting little presentation, but I don't agree with some of the entries on the list. Let's start from #10 and work our way to the top. #10 - Allende. Allende certainly belongs on the list, but I think it may merit a higher rank than #10. #9 - Murchison. This one also belongs on the list, and based on the science alone, it should rank in the top 3 or top 5. Murchison has taught us much and it deserves a higher rank. #8 - Peekskill. A fine hammer fall and a great witnessed fall. I have no issues with this one, but Murchison should rank higher than Peekskill. #7 - Orgueil. Historical falls from previous centuries opens a whole new can of worms. If Orgueil is included, why not L'Aigle? Or why not another type fall like Nakhla? No offense to Orgueil, but this one is dubious entry on a list that is directed towards the mainstream lay-public audience. #6 - ALH 84001. This one should be #1 in my opinion. It is the Holy Grail of meteorites and it contains what many scientists agree is proof that life once existed on Mars. As the latest papers have revealed, the evidence for Martian life contained in this meteorite is increasingly solid. I can't think of a more significant meteorite than this one. #5 - Sylacauga. Mrs. Hodges would rank this one as #1. But is it more significant than ALH 84001? In my opinion, no. And couldn't they find a photo for it? A quick Google Image search or Encyclopedia of Meteorites search reveals several. #4 - Sikhote Alin. A great historical fall by all measures. I have no issue with this one, other than the obvious one - it shouldn't outrank ALH-84001. #3 - Willamette. Nice choice, but we are now seeing a definite bias on this list towards iron meteorites. If Willamette made the list, why not one (or more) of the Cape York masses? Heck, Murchison is certainly more significant than this one. #2 - Hoba. The world's biggest iron and it certainly belongs on the list. But if Hoba was selected, then why not Canyon Diablo? The glaring absence of Canyon Diablo is also made more curious by the inclusion of Willamette. #1 - Tunguska! ..a non-meteorite. This one is an odd choice. First, it's not a meteorite, it's an impact event. It was probably caused by a meteorite or comet, but no meteorites were recovered. And if we are going to include an impact event, why not Canyon Diablo? CD is more recognizable to the target audience of this list and there are tons of iron meteorites laying around to show for it. And if we are going to include speculative comets like Tunguska, then why not Tagish Lake? It's a fun list, but you can tell an intern put it together and not someone familiar with meteorites. Best regards and Happy New Year! MikeG On 12/31/09, Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Hi All, Did anyone read the Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites of All Time list? http://science.discovery.com/top-ten/2009/meteors/meteors.html My article on MeteoriteBlog.com http://meteoriteblog.com/top-ten-meteorites-of-all-time-science-channel/ Opinions? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA Meteorite Blog Meteorite Wiki __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184 US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites Of All Time
I would say that's a good one too simply because it's a crater maker. Craters are cool... ;) Regards, Eric On 12/31/2009 5:15 PM, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: Jeff, List, Good list but, I would have to squeeze Carancas in there somewhere. Very few meteorites have posed as many questions while at the same time providing many new answers. Too many to list here but it has all the bells and whistles to go along with the Scientific interests. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Jeff Grossmanjgross...@usgs.gov wrote: My top 10 most important meteorites of the last 250 years, off the top of my head, in alphabetical order - Allan Hills A81005 Allan Hills 84001 Allende Canyon Diablo Elephant Moraine A79001 L'Aigle Murchison Orgueil Semarkona Siena Peekskill, Sylacauga, Willamette and Hoba aren't even close, and no more needs to be said about Tunguska, which would make my list if any were actually found. I wanted to put Pribram on the list, but couldn't fit it into the top 10. Yamato 691 was also tempting. Jeff On 2009-12-31 3:53 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Hi Eric and List, An interesting little presentation, but I don't agree with some of the entries on the list. Let's start from #10 and work our way to the top. #10 - Allende. Allende certainly belongs on the list, but I think it may merit a higher rank than #10. #9 - Murchison. This one also belongs on the list, and based on the science alone, it should rank in the top 3 or top 5. Murchison has taught us much and it deserves a higher rank. #8 - Peekskill. A fine hammer fall and a great witnessed fall. I have no issues with this one, but Murchison should rank higher than Peekskill. #7 - Orgueil. Historical falls from previous centuries opens a whole new can of worms. If Orgueil is included, why not L'Aigle? Or why not another type fall like Nakhla? No offense to Orgueil, but this one is dubious entry on a list that is directed towards the mainstream lay-public audience. #6 - ALH 84001. This one should be #1 in my opinion. It is the Holy Grail of meteorites and it contains what many scientists agree is proof that life once existed on Mars. As the latest papers have revealed, the evidence for Martian life contained in this meteorite is increasingly solid. I can't think of a more significant meteorite than this one. #5 - Sylacauga. Mrs. Hodges would rank this one as #1. But is it more significant than ALH 84001? In my opinion, no. And couldn't they find a photo for it? A quick Google Image search or Encyclopedia of Meteorites search reveals several. #4 - Sikhote Alin. A great historical fall by all measures. I have no issue with this one, other than the obvious one - it shouldn't outrank ALH-84001. #3 - Willamette. Nice choice, but we are now seeing a definite bias on this list towards iron meteorites. If Willamette made the list, why not one (or more) of the Cape York masses? Heck, Murchison is certainly more significant than this one. #2 - Hoba. The world's biggest iron and it certainly belongs on the list. But if Hoba was selected, then why not Canyon Diablo? The glaring absence of Canyon Diablo is also made more curious by the inclusion of Willamette. #1 - Tunguska! ..a non-meteorite. This one is an odd choice. First, it's not a meteorite, it's an impact event. It was probably caused by a meteorite or comet, but no meteorites were recovered. And if we are going to include an impact event, why not Canyon Diablo? CD is more recognizable to the target audience of this list and there are tons of iron meteorites laying around to show for it. And if we are going to include speculative comets like Tunguska, then why not Tagish Lake? It's a fun list, but you can tell an intern put it together and not someone familiar with meteorites. Best regards and Happy New Year! MikeG On 12/31/09, Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Hi All, Did anyone read the Science Channel's Top Ten Meteorites of All Time list? http://science.discovery.com/top-ten/2009/meteors/meteors.html My article on MeteoriteBlog.com http://meteoriteblog.com/top-ten-meteorites-of-all-time-science-channel/ Opinions? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA Meteorite Blog Meteorite Wiki __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184 US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] Happy New Year
G'Day Anne I will second that. Everyone have fun out there, be safe because 2010 opens a lot of new surprises. You've all been great. Cheers John Katina -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of impact...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 2:38 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; cometeoritec...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy New Year Happy New Year to all List members! May 2010 bring you many more meteorites and anything else you desire. And most of all: May 2010 bring us all a lot of Peace, Calm and Quiet everywhere around our blue globe. (from snowy Denver Colorado. Still many hours from the New Year.) Anne M. Black http://www.impactika.com/ impact...@aol.com Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. http://www.imca.cc/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar for $200/g
Richard and All, This seller has had over a dozen martian and lunar auctions since 2007.( All of his meteorites claim lunar or martian origin) His two years of 0 feedback also inspires confidence - well it is a 100% rating (kinda)! Here is one of his first auctions (pdf file) http://tinyurl.com/yzeaakh Best, Ken Newton meteorite-identification.com On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: I found this new listing from an ebayer with no feedback for lunar material found this past September http://tinyurl.com/yge5uv9 -- Richard Kowalski http://fullmoonphotography.net IMCA #1081 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Buzzard Coulee Permitting Snafu
Gary Chase posted: Thanks for the heads up Mccartney. I think I will wait for the ones you and Sonny collected before the snow. No use taking any chances on rusting issues. Gary: Since your comment may cause concern among my customers I will clarify that there are no rusting issues with Buzzards collected by our team in the spring, and I will personally guarantee that. The Buzzard Coulee strewnfield is in Saskatchewan and it gets more than a little cold up there in the winter. Stones that fell in November 2008 and collected shortly after the spring thaw were frozen in snow for the duration, and still in excellent condition upon recovery, with black fusion crust. They have remained in that state and are not decaying in any way, eight months after collection. That being said, I hope List members will support McCartney Taylor when his specimens make it to the US. Sonny and Mac were the pioneers at Buzzard and did a great job of recovering material. I am keeping a good number of stones for my private collection, so Aerolite only has a modest amount of Buzzards for sale and they'll be gone soon. There should be plenty of interest in this excellent meteorite to go around. Thanks to everyone who contacted me today with inquiries. We'll be back in touch in short order. Regards, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org www.meteoritemen.com www.meteoriteblog.org __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Only the best microscope ever!
Hi List, That's a tall lead-in typed the Subject line. Maybe a few qualifiers are in order such as polarizing optical microscope but that's about it! This microscope is listed on eBay. I don't know the seller and I wish I was in the position to add a new scope to the family. Many people (often list members) ask me about what microscope do I buy? If you are going after a pleasant trip into the world of Xpol thin section examination, this is one to get. You can spend more but you won't get more. (Really, I don't know the seller!) Personally, I would up the light source (it has the little 35W only) but this is one of the microscopes designed to meet NASA's criteria for the first Moon rocks. This was the first series of scopes to use infinity focal length in a transmitted light set up. Any way, check it out and email me if you buy it! So I can live vicariously through you for a while. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=180450924158ssPageName=S TRK:MEWAX:IT Tom My micrograph gallery is at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=180450924158ssPageName=S TRK:MEWAX:IT __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 1, 2010
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 1, 2010
Bravo on another wonderful RFSPoD Michael! And congratulations to Geoff and Lisa Marie for receiving their BC stones from Canada. However with all due respect to Geoff, Lisa Marie and Michael, I would like to point out that although I cannot be sure it was the first Buzzard Coulee in the USA, the Big Kahuna's 60.32g double oriented specimen is certainly the first one in Hawaii (thanks to Murray Paulson), and featured in the November 14th RFSPoD: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/November_14_2009.html Hau'oli Makahiki Hou! gary On Dec 31, 2009, at 6:49 PM, Michael Johnson wrote: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/January_1_2010.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (now visible on ebay Global Hub) (808) 640-9161 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 1, 2010
Beautiful RFSPoD (both dates...). What a great thing to see as the New Year starts! Thanks Michael for your service. Have a safe New Year celebration everyone and have a safe, prosperous and enjoyable 2010!! Mark B. Vail, AZ --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com wrote: From: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 1, 2010 To: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 10:04 PM Bravo on another wonderful RFSPoD Michael! And congratulations to Geoff and Lisa Marie for receiving their BC stones from Canada. However with all due respect to Geoff, Lisa Marie and Michael, I would like to point out that although I cannot be sure it was the first Buzzard Coulee in the USA, the Big Kahuna's 60.32g double oriented specimen is certainly the first one in Hawaii (thanks to Murray Paulson), and featured in the November 14th RFSPoD: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/November_14_2009.html Hau'oli Makahiki Hou! gary On Dec 31, 2009, at 6:49 PM, Michael Johnson wrote: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/January_1_2010.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (now visible on ebay Global Hub) (808) 640-9161 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
