[meteorite-list] AD eBay auction
Dear List Members I have few auction ending soon (Millbillillie, Tamdakht and NWA chondrite lots) : http://shop.ebay.com/meteoritepoland/m.html Also one Millbillillie 45 left : http://picasaweb.google.com/illaenus/Millbillillie45g# Beside this, I have many good looking NWA chondrites for trade or sale : http://picasaweb.google.com/illaenus/NWA98Kg# http://picasaweb.google.com/illaenus/NWA48Kg# http://picasaweb.google.com/illaenus/NWA641118kg# (more on my Picassa gallery) All question please send to : illae...@gmail.com Kind Regards Tomasz Jakubowski IMCA #2321 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Frustrated
Hi Jim, I had the same problem at first. The problem was on my end. My email settings are set to automatically send emails in HTML format. That's the way I like it for day to day emails. When posting to a newsgroup I always have to make sure that I double check that I am sending in Plain Text before posting. Sometimes I forget and the message doesn't get posted. It should be posted within a few seconds and when it doesn't I know I made the mistake. If any of yours ever got posted if they were in HTML format, it would only have been because Art made the correction and posted it on your behalf. The only other thing I can think of that would keep your messages from getting posted immediately is that it is stuck in Art's SPAM filter waiting to be authenticated as legitimate. In which case, either the posting itself or your email address may have been flagged. This can happen due to many reasons and each email server's SPAM filter settings are different. Once an email address is flagged, it is a manual process to allow that email address to be delivered normally. Maybe ask Art if your email address is flagged. I hope this helps. Abe Guenther -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of jimsk...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 4:48 PM To: j...@cabassi.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Frustrated I think that you're just encountering traffic jams on the super information highway. :) Jim K In a message dated 12/13/2010 8:10:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, j...@cabassi.net writes: G'Day List I'm getting a little frustrated as you can see from my heading. Am I doing something wrong? Seems like a certain amount of people's posts appear instantly where others have to wait a considerable amount of time, and I mean alot of time. I could have walked over to Chris Spratt's house and delivered the message in the time it took, well actually I'm still waiting for it to be posted on the Met List. Art, did I piss you off? Is there some sort of hierarchy going on here? Those that respond constantly get the sweet card? I mean, don't get me wrong.. it's just so strange that postings can happen in an instant and others you can take a whole day before they're posted. So what's going on? Do we have a glitch in the matrix? Curious minds want to know. If anybody can shine some light on this, it will be much appreciated. Because I'm at my wits end trying to correspond with the Met List. But apart from that, if this gets through I wish everyone the best of the season, be safe and love your family. Cheers John IMCA # 2125 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Frustrated
Hi John; Abe is correct; 99% of the time a post is delayed it is due to the formatting of the email. HTML emails are held by the list software and I need to manually release the post after verifying it doesn't contain anything harmful (e.g. attachments, embedded scripts, etc.). I don't constantly monitor these held emails so it may take some time for me to review and release. Format your emails as plain text and they will probably appear almost instantly. Regards, Art On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 6:48 AM, Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net wrote: Hi Jim, I had the same problem at first. The problem was on my end. My email settings are set to automatically send emails in HTML format. That's the way I like it for day to day emails. When posting to a newsgroup I always have to make sure that I double check that I am sending in Plain Text before posting. Sometimes I forget and the message doesn't get posted. It should be posted within a few seconds and when it doesn't I know I made the mistake. If any of yours ever got posted if they were in HTML format, it would only have been because Art made the correction and posted it on your behalf. The only other thing I can think of that would keep your messages from getting posted immediately is that it is stuck in Art's SPAM filter waiting to be authenticated as legitimate. In which case, either the posting itself or your email address may have been flagged. This can happen due to many reasons and each email server's SPAM filter settings are different. Once an email address is flagged, it is a manual process to allow that email address to be delivered normally. Maybe ask Art if your email address is flagged. I hope this helps. Abe Guenther -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of jimsk...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 4:48 PM To: j...@cabassi.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Frustrated I think that you're just encountering traffic jams on the super information highway. :) Jim K In a message dated 12/13/2010 8:10:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, j...@cabassi.net writes: G'Day List I'm getting a little frustrated as you can see from my heading. Am I doing something wrong? Seems like a certain amount of people's posts appear instantly where others have to wait a considerable amount of time, and I mean alot of time. I could have walked over to Chris Spratt's house and delivered the message in the time it took, well actually I'm still waiting for it to be posted on the Met List. Art, did I piss you off? Is there some sort of hierarchy going on here? Those that respond constantly get the sweet card? I mean, don't get me wrong.. it's just so strange that postings can happen in an instant and others you can take a whole day before they're posted. So what's going on? Do we have a glitch in the matrix? Curious minds want to know. If anybody can shine some light on this, it will be much appreciated. Because I'm at my wits end trying to correspond with the Met List. But apart from that, if this gets through I wish everyone the best of the season, be safe and love your family. Cheers John IMCA # 2125 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] test 1 (please delete)
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Re: [meteorite-list] Geminid pic / photographing meteors
Chris, To be clear about how I personally was looking at this; the length of time the shutter is open has no bearing on the sensitivity to the meteor exposure. That I thought was entirely controlled by aperture and ISO sensitivity (i.e. film speed), along with the velocity, brightness and trail persistence of the meteor. Camera field of view might also have a bearing as the meteor image will spend a longer time over a particular pixel sensor with a shorter focal length (i.e. wider field of view) and thus be brighter in the image (though smaller). When you say the longer your exposure, the less sensitive you will be to meteors then I can see this from the point of view that the meteor exposure can be progressively obscured by scattered light in the sky (from the sun/moon/streetlights/background starlight) and from sensor noise in the case of digital cameras. With sensor noise cancellation and a pitch black sky, I would expect exactly the same meteor image from a 5 second exposure versus a 30 minute exposure at the same f-stop and ISO, though the lower magnitude stars (specifically those that haven't fully reached the cameras upper exposure limit with the shorter shutter) will appear brighter as the shutter is kept open longer. Is this about right or am I missing something? I'm just not clear why I would lose fainter events with longer shutter speeds other than for the reasons I outlined above. I like your video idea... you could edit out all the dead action and make something that looked like a much more exciting bombardment... though jumping stars would probably give the game away unless you're using a tracking mount. Plenty of scope for fun. Love your telescope images. M51 is just fantastic. Cheers, John On 15/12/2010 11:34, Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote: Keep in mind that the longer your exposure, the less sensitive you will be to meteors. For maximum sensitivity to meteors, you'd like your exposure time to be no longer than a typical meteor lasts- say a couple of seconds. Anything more and you'll start losing fainter events. But with most cameras, if your exposure gets too short you spend more time between exposures than you do imaging the sky, and you start missing meteors or catching partial trails. 30 seconds is probably a good compromise. Using video is another solution. It maximizes sensitivity, but at the expense of total pixel count. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: John Hendry p...@pict.co.uk To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Off topic- the weather IS getting worse + On topic Geminid pic Thank you Carl. I did set out to capture half a dozen emanating from the radiant with something earthbound in the foreground, but just too much light pollution to hold the shutter open more than a couple of minutes even looking completely at the sky. I think I'd cut it back to 30 secs or so during the successful frame to avoid blowing the glow on the clouds too much. I'll try again at the next promising opportunity, and make plans for a more rural location. I think you either have to shoot for a shortish shutter exposure/wide angle to minimise star trailing or use a long shutter speed to emphasise the trails. To my eye, very short star trails make it look like you've got a dodgy tripod. I may keep my eye open for a used Meade and adapt the equatorial mount, but that approach would cause a smeared foreground if there were terrestrial objects in frame, though I could get round that with multiple exposures. Regards, John __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Geminid pic / photographing meteors
The sensitivity is very much related to exposure time. The longer the shutter is open, the more the sky background (and its associated noise) fills each pixel. This rapidly washes out fainter meteors. The actual exposure time for a meteor is the amount of time its image dwells on a single pixel. All the rest of the time, that pixel is accumulating signal and noise unrelated to the meteor. It turns out that for typical meteor speeds and typical focal lengths, video rates are just about optimal for sensitivity. Of course, if you're not using video, you do need to leave the shutter open long enough to catch most meteors in their entirety. Remember, there is no such thing as noise cancellation. Some camera play tricks to hide noise, but they do so at the expense of signal. You cannot eliminate or even reduce noise- if you could, it wouldn't be noise, but something systematic. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: John Hendry p...@pict.co.uk To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Geminid pic / photographing meteors Chris, To be clear about how I personally was looking at this; the length of time the shutter is open has no bearing on the sensitivity to the meteor exposure. That I thought was entirely controlled by aperture and ISO sensitivity (i.e. film speed), along with the velocity, brightness and trail persistence of the meteor. Camera field of view might also have a bearing as the meteor image will spend a longer time over a particular pixel sensor with a shorter focal length (i.e. wider field of view) and thus be brighter in the image (though smaller). When you say the longer your exposure, the less sensitive you will be to meteors then I can see this from the point of view that the meteor exposure can be progressively obscured by scattered light in the sky (from the sun/moon/streetlights/background starlight) and from sensor noise in the case of digital cameras. With sensor noise cancellation and a pitch black sky, I would expect exactly the same meteor image from a 5 second exposure versus a 30 minute exposure at the same f-stop and ISO, though the lower magnitude stars (specifically those that haven't fully reached the cameras upper exposure limit with the shorter shutter) will appear brighter as the shutter is kept open longer. Is this about right or am I missing something? I'm just not clear why I would lose fainter events with longer shutter speeds other than for the reasons I outlined above. I like your video idea... you could edit out all the dead action and make something that looked like a much more exciting bombardment... though jumping stars would probably give the game away unless you're using a tracking mount. Plenty of scope for fun. Love your telescope images. M51 is just fantastic. Cheers, John __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo
Over 2 nights of cold and mostly cloudy weather I was able to capture 21 meteor photos. I was really impressed with how active this shower was especially the peak night. One of these exposures caught two meteors within the same shot (a 25 second time frame) http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/double-geminid.jpg Photo Details: Canon 40d camera with Canon EF 15mm f/2.8 fish eye lens; 25 second ISO 800 exposure Pretty cool! I think they are brothers. Mike Hankey Freeland MD http://mikesastrophotos.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MRO Provides Travel Tips for Mars Opportunity Rover
Dec. 16, 2010 Dwayne Brown Headquarters, Washington 202-358-1726 dwayne.c.br...@nasa.gov Guy Webster Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. 818-354-6278 guy.webs...@jpl.nasa.gov Rachel Hoover Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. 650-604-0643 rachel.hoo...@nasa.gov RELEASE: 10-342 NASA SPACECRAFT PROVIDES TRAVEL TIPS FOR MARS ROVER SAN FRANCISCO -- NASA's Mars Opportunity rover is getting important tips from an orbiting spacecraft as it explores areas that might hold clues about past Martian environments. Researchers are using a mineral-mapping instrument aboard NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO) to help the rover investigate a large ancient crater called Endeavour. MRO's Compact Reconnaissance Imaging Spectrometer for Mars (CRISM) is providing maps of minerals at Endeavour's rim that are helping the team choose which area to explore first and where to go from there. As MRO orbits more than 150 miles high, the CRISM instrument provides mapping information for mineral exposures on the surface as small as a tennis court. This is the first time mineral detections from orbit are being used in tactical decisions about where to drive on Mars, said Ray Arvidson of Washington University in St. Louis. Arvidson is the deputy principal investigator for the Spirit and Opportunity rovers and a co-investigator for CRISM. Opportunity's science team chose to begin driving the rover toward the 14-mile-wide crater in 2008, after four years studying other sites in what initially was planned as a three-month mission. The rover has traveled approximately nine miles since setting out for Endeavour crater. It will take several months to reach it. The team plans for Opportunity's exploration of Endeavour to begin at a rim fragment called Cape York. That feature is too low to be visible by the rover, but appears from orbit to be nearly surrounded by water-bearing minerals. The planned route then turns southward toward a higher rim fragment called Cape Tribulation, where CRISM has detected a class of clay minerals not investigated yet by a ground mission. Spacecraft orbiting Mars found these minerals to be widespread on the planet. The presence of clay minerals at Endeavour suggests an earlier and milder wet environment than the very acidic wet one indicated by previous evidence found by Opportunity. We used to have a disconnect between the scale of identifying minerals from orbit and what missions on the surface could examine, said CRISM team member Janice Bishop of NASA's Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, Calif., and the SETI Institute of Mountain View, Calif. Now, rovers are driving farther and orbital footprints are getting smaller. Ten years ago, an imaging spectrometer on the Mars Global Surveyor orbiter found an Oklahoma-sized are with a type of the mineral hematite exposed. This discovery motivated selection of the area as Opportunity's 2004 landing site. Each pixel footprint for that spectrometer was two miles across. CRISM resolves areas about 60 feet across. Last fall, the instrument began using a pixel-overlap technique that provided even better resolution. Opportunity has just reached a 90-meter-diameter (300-foot-diameter) crater called Santa Maria where CRISM detected a patch of ground with indications of water bound into the mineral. Opportunity will conduct a science campaign at the crater for the next several weeks to compare the ground results to the orbital indications. A Martian year lasts approximately 23 months. During the past Martian year, Opportunity covered more than 7.5 miles of the mission's 16 total miles traveled since it landed in January 2004. The rover has returned more than 141,000 images. MRO reached the Red Planet in 2006 to begin a two-year primary science mission. Its data show Mars had diverse wet environments at many locations for differing durations during the planet's history, and climate-change cycles persist into the present era. The mission has returned more planetary data than all other Mars missions combined. JPL manages the Mars Exploration Rovers and the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter for NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington. The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory in Laurel, Md., manages CRISM. For more information about Mars missions, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/mars -end- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo
Wonderful, Mike, thank you! Best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com To: Global Meteor Observing Forum meteor...@meteorobs.org; meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 12:24 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo Over 2 nights of cold and mostly cloudy weather I was able to capture 21 meteor photos. I was really impressed with how active this shower was especially the peak night. One of these exposures caught two meteors within the same shot (a 25 second time frame) http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/double-geminid.jpg Photo Details: Canon 40d camera with Canon EF 15mm f/2.8 fish eye lens; 25 second ISO 800 exposure Pretty cool! I think they are brothers. Mike Hankey Freeland MD http://mikesastrophotos.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo
Really *Great* shot !!! Breathtaking! Beautiful! Thanks for sharing, Mike! Bernd .. getting ready for snow-shoveling tomorrowmorning To: mike.han...@gmail.com meteor...@meteorobs.org meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks-Paper-Scissors - AD
Dear List Members, In the spirit of the Holidays, I would like to try something fun and offer a few select meteorites, including a new Lunar that has never been offered publicly. Here is how this special will work: Rock - I have several great 'meteorites' listed below. Paper - Make me a 'cash' offer, and if acceptable... Scissors - ... I will 'cut' you a great deal! NEW!! - Shisr 161 Lunar - Fragmental Breccia (TKW 57.2g, unpaired) * This is the first time this meteorite has been offered publicly, in fact only one part slice has been sold to a particular Lunatic friend overseas. ** These are the only specimens that will be offered. I am presenting these for the owner, Best Offer over reserve (Please email for reserve). Randy's Lunar web site entry: http://www.meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/shisr161.htm 4.37g complete slice 55mm x 23mm x 2mm http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/shisr161slice_4_370.jpg 350mg part end cut 11mm x 8mm x 4mm http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/shisr161_350mg.jpg 128mg fragment ~4mm x 4mm x 4mm http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/shisr161_128mg.jpg ~1mg two specks in 30mm Gem Jar http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/shisr161_1mg.jpg NWA 4468 Primitive Martian 11.3g part slice (Largest available)(crust along ~50% edge) 41mm x 37mm x 2.5mm http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/nwa4468/dsc00021.jpg NWA 3163 Lunar Granulite 45.2g complete slice (Largest available)(crust along ~30% edge) 104mm x 55mm x 3mm (Polished BOTH sides!!) 1) front http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/nwa3163_45_2a.jpg 2) back http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/nwa3163_45_2b.jpg NWA 5480 Olivine Diogenite 168.3g complete Slice (Largest available) 122mm x 119mm x 4mm http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/nwa5480/large/dsc5.jpg NWA 5480 Olivine Diogenite 87.9g part End Cut 56mm x 58mm x 13mm http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/nwa5480/endcutprepared/dsc1.jpg NWA 4932 Lunar Feldspathic Impact-Melt Breccia (Unpaired)(Low TKW) 2.812g Complete Slice 44mm x 20mm x 2mm http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4932/dsc9.jpg Randy's web site: http://www.meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/nwa4932.htm Glorieta Individuals: 58g Pallasite (Large crystal, has some flow lines and lip-over): http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc1.jpg 37.1g Pallasite (Several crystals w/ mostly original crust!): http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc3.jpg 22.5g Pallasite (Many crystals, difficult to photograph): http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc7.jpg 26.7g Siderite: http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc00019.jpg 16.2g Siderite: http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc00021.jpg NWA 3171 Martian Shergottite (Last Piece!) 1.51g Part Slice 25mm x 13mm x 2mm http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/nwa3171.jpg NWA 2696 Howardite 686g Individual (50% crusted!) http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/nwa2696_686g.jpg NWA 3143 Diogenite 50.5g Part Slice (Largest piece available) 95mm x 48mm x 4mm http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/nwa3143.jpg Ocate, NM IAB Iron 162.8g Complete Slice (Last slice left!) 117mm x 62mm x 4mm http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/dsc9.jpg Meteoritical Bulletin entry: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=ocatesfor=namesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=48976 Ocate, NM IAB Iron 910g End Cut (1 of 2 Pieces left) 117mm x 51mm x 60mm at widest points front http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910a.jpg back http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910b.jpg another view http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910c.jpg Oum Dreyga (Amgala) H3-5 Chondrite 136.6g End Cut (nice candidate for cutting) 65mm x 60mm x 20mm front1 http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/oumdreyga1.jpg front2 http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/oumdreyga2.jpg back http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/oumdreyga3.jpg NWA 4446 CV3 (Never offered publicly) 73g Individual w/ Huge CAI 48mm x 35mm x 30mm (CAI is 15mm x 14mm) side1 http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4446/nwa4446a.jpg side2 http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4446/nwa4446b.jpg Close-up of CAI http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4446/nwa4446cai.jpg NWA 4446 CV3 (Never offered publicly) 49.3g Complete Slice http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/dsc1.jpg NWA 4446 CV3 MAIN MASS (Never offered publicly) 2203g Individual (Awesome!) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4446/nwa4446_2203g.jpg NWA 1879 Mesosiderite (Only 2 pieces left!) 1) 63g Complete Slice 91mm x 60mm x 2-4mm (slight wedge cut): http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1879/dsc2.jpg 2) 186g End Cut 80mm x 70mm x 13mm: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1879/dsc1.jpg Tagish Lake Ungrouped Carbonaceous Kits 1) 50mg Kit: http://www.lunarrock.com/tagishlake/TagishLakeKit_50mg.jpg 2) 100mg Kit: http://www.lunarrock.com/tagishlake/TagishLakeKit_100mg.jpg Carbonaceous Chondrite (unclassified) 1325g Individual w/ Huge CAI 128mm x 95mm x 50mm (CAI measures 20mm x 15mm!!!) view1
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks-Paper-Scissors - AD
If someone would kindly loan me about $20K, I would go on a shopping spree here. LOL Seriously though, those are some awesome specimens. Those big olivine diogenite pieces are super. The big endcut reminds me of a piece of marble cake. The big palm-sized slice looks like a gourmet pancake. Yummy. :) On 12/16/10, Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote: Dear List Members, In the spirit of the Holidays, I would like to try something fun and offer a few select meteorites, including a new Lunar that has never been offered publicly. Here is how this special will work: Rock - I have several great 'meteorites' listed below. Paper - Make me a 'cash' offer, and if acceptable... Scissors - ... I will 'cut' you a great deal! NEW!! - Shisr 161 Lunar - Fragmental Breccia (TKW 57.2g, unpaired) * This is the first time this meteorite has been offered publicly, in fact only one part slice has been sold to a particular Lunatic friend overseas. ** These are the only specimens that will be offered. I am presenting these for the owner, Best Offer over reserve (Please email for reserve). Randy's Lunar web site entry: http://www.meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/shisr161.htm 4.37g complete slice 55mm x 23mm x 2mm http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/shisr161slice_4_370.jpg 350mg part end cut 11mm x 8mm x 4mm http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/shisr161_350mg.jpg 128mg fragment ~4mm x 4mm x 4mm http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/shisr161_128mg.jpg ~1mg two specks in 30mm Gem Jar http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/shisr161_1mg.jpg NWA 4468 Primitive Martian 11.3g part slice (Largest available)(crust along ~50% edge) 41mm x 37mm x 2.5mm http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/nwa4468/dsc00021.jpg NWA 3163 Lunar Granulite 45.2g complete slice (Largest available)(crust along ~30% edge) 104mm x 55mm x 3mm (Polished BOTH sides!!) 1) front http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/nwa3163_45_2a.jpg 2) back http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/nwa3163_45_2b.jpg NWA 5480 Olivine Diogenite 168.3g complete Slice (Largest available) 122mm x 119mm x 4mm http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/nwa5480/large/dsc5.jpg NWA 5480 Olivine Diogenite 87.9g part End Cut 56mm x 58mm x 13mm http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/nwa5480/endcutprepared/dsc1.jpg NWA 4932 Lunar Feldspathic Impact-Melt Breccia (Unpaired)(Low TKW) 2.812g Complete Slice 44mm x 20mm x 2mm http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4932/dsc9.jpg Randy's web site: http://www.meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/nwa4932.htm Glorieta Individuals: 58g Pallasite (Large crystal, has some flow lines and lip-over): http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc1.jpg 37.1g Pallasite (Several crystals w/ mostly original crust!): http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc3.jpg 22.5g Pallasite (Many crystals, difficult to photograph): http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc7.jpg 26.7g Siderite: http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc00019.jpg 16.2g Siderite: http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc00021.jpg NWA 3171 Martian Shergottite (Last Piece!) 1.51g Part Slice 25mm x 13mm x 2mm http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/nwa3171.jpg NWA 2696 Howardite 686g Individual (50% crusted!) http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/nwa2696_686g.jpg NWA 3143 Diogenite 50.5g Part Slice (Largest piece available) 95mm x 48mm x 4mm http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/nwa3143.jpg Ocate, NM IAB Iron 162.8g Complete Slice (Last slice left!) 117mm x 62mm x 4mm http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/dsc9.jpg Meteoritical Bulletin entry: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=ocatesfor=namesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=48976 Ocate, NM IAB Iron 910g End Cut (1 of 2 Pieces left) 117mm x 51mm x 60mm at widest points front http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910a.jpg back http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910b.jpg another view http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910c.jpg Oum Dreyga (Amgala) H3-5 Chondrite 136.6g End Cut (nice candidate for cutting) 65mm x 60mm x 20mm front1 http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/oumdreyga1.jpg front2 http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/oumdreyga2.jpg back http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/oumdreyga3.jpg NWA 4446 CV3 (Never offered publicly) 73g Individual w/ Huge CAI 48mm x 35mm x 30mm (CAI is 15mm x 14mm) side1 http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4446/nwa4446a.jpg side2 http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4446/nwa4446b.jpg Close-up of CAI http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4446/nwa4446cai.jpg NWA 4446 CV3 (Never offered publicly) 49.3g Complete Slice http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/dsc1.jpg NWA 4446 CV3 MAIN MASS (Never offered publicly) 2203g Individual (Awesome!) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4446/nwa4446_2203g.jpg NWA 1879 Mesosiderite (Only 2 pieces left!) 1) 63g Complete Slice 91mm x 60mm x 2-4mm (slight wedge cut):
Re: [meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo
Nice picture, I caught a nice one too. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b143/MrKrink/PHOTOGRAPHY/ASTROPHOTOGRAPHY/METEORITES/Geminid1-1.jpg -Original Message- From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:21 PM To: mike.han...@gmail.com ; meteor...@meteorobs.org ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo Really *Great* shot !!! Breathtaking! Beautiful! Thanks for sharing, Mike! Bernd .. getting ready for snow-shoveling tomorrowmorning To: mike.han...@gmail.com meteor...@meteorobs.org meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo
Thanks for sharing! I love night photography and to catch multiple meteors is tough to do. Rob Holcomb http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:24 PM To: Global Meteor Observing Forum meteor...@meteorobs.org; meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo Over 2 nights of cold and mostly cloudy weather I was able to capture 21 meteor photos. I was really impressed with how active this shower was especially the peak night. One of these exposures caught two meteors within the same shot (a 25 second time frame) http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/double-geminid.jpg Photo Details: Canon 40d camera with Canon EF 15mm f/2.8 fish eye lens; 25 second ISO 800 exposure Pretty cool! I think they are brothers. Mike Hankey Freeland MD http://mikesastrophotos.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo
My neighbor Jimmy Eubanks made this great shot a few nights ago: http://www.flickr.com/photos/astroimaging/5263191360/ Regards, Michael Johnson http://www.rocksfromspace.org - Original Message - From: Rob Holcomb rob.holc...@gmail.com To: Global Meteor Observing Forum meteor...@meteorobs.org, meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:02:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo Thanks for sharing! I love night photography and to catch multiple meteors is tough to do. Rob Holcomb http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:24 PM To: Global Meteor Observing Forum meteor...@meteorobs.org; meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo Over 2 nights of cold and mostly cloudy weather I was able to capture 21 meteor photos. I was really impressed with how active this shower was especially the peak night. One of these exposures caught two meteors within the same shot (a 25 second time frame) http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/double-geminid.jpg Photo Details: Canon 40d camera with Canon EF 15mm f/2.8 fish eye lens; 25 second ISO 800 exposure Pretty cool! I think they are brothers. Mike Hankey Freeland MD http://mikesastrophotos.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Google Book Tool Tracks Cultural Change With Words
Google Book Tool Tracks Cultural Change With Words by Dan Charles, All Things Considered, Dec. 16, 2010 http://www.npr.org/2010/12/16/132106374/google-book-tool-tracks-cultural-change-with-words Google Ngram Viewer provides searchable dataset of books. Los Angeles Times, December 16, 2010 http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2010/12/google-ngram-viewer-provides-searchable-dataset-of-books.html New Google tool, free to public, reveals evolution of language by Lisa M. Krieger, San Jose Mercury News, December 16, 2010 http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_16875900?nclick_check=1 Culturomics webpage at http://www.culturomics.org/ The Google Books Ngram Viewer is at http://ngrams.googlelabs.com/ The Science paper is: Michel, J.-B., Y. K. Shen, A. P. Aiden, A. Veres, M. K. Gray, The Google Books Team, J. P. Pickett, D. Hoiberg, D. Clancy, P. Norvig, J. Orwant, S. Pinker, M. A. Nowak, and E. L. Aiden, 2010, Quantitative Analysis of Culture Using Millions of Digitized Books. Published Online, Science Express, Dec. 16, 2010, DOI: 10.1126/science.1199644, http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2010/12/15/science.1199644 1. I did an analysis of the word meteorite. The frequency goes up and down within a restricted range between 1880 and middle 1950s. Then, the frequency of its usage increases abruptly until it peaks about early 1960s. After this peak, it usage decreases until it hits a low about middle 1990s. Then it usage rises again and peaks about 2000 and drops again. 2. The phrase impact crater has low usage until about the very late 1950s. Then its usage starts increasing until about middle 1990s when its usage very abruptly increases. Its usage peaks about 2000 to early 2000s and starts dropping. 3. The work Chicxulub appears in the very early 1990s and its usage rises quite abruptly and peaks about 1999. Then its usage drops during the 2000s. Yours, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 88, Issue 28
Theory of Earth Formation 1. Universe is like a natural forest where different-2 Planets are growing and last shrinking and dying. As in the natural forest where different-2 seeds of trees plants are germinating and converting in big trees plants, And after completion of their age, started shrinking dying. 2. As in the natural forest produces thousands of its seeds and only few seeds can germinate and after germination few can convert in big trees only same as old cosmic bodies produce millions of Meteoroids and few Meteoroids can germinate in asteroid and out of these asteroids a very few can convert in big Planets only. Although all Meteoroids are not seed of Planets, only few Meteoroids are seeds , produced by old cosmic bodies rest are debris of old cosmic bodies. One Planet is a result of one Meteoroid only as one tree is a result of one seed only. http://yfrog.com/m9meteoriodj 3. As seeds contains Amino Acid and Proteins. The main properties of seed same Meteoroids (seed) contains Amino Acid proteins. 4. Plate Tectonics is the main part of this theory. But biological process of the Earth is responsible for the motion of plates only. At some point on the log of tree You can see black plates in the red core of log of tree are pushing white crust of log toward outside extraordinary, making like mountains on log of tree. Same Plates in the Earth formed Mountains. Please see the attached link for more clarification. http://yfrog.com/0g72697054j 5. Minerals available on Earth or we can say mineral produced by Earth are also produced by all living things. I mean Iron, Zn, CU, Ni, etc. Are produced by all living thing by biological process. This is very much common factor for all living things including Planets. If Earth is a just ball of rocks only then It can not produced different-2 minerals like all other living things even if it can produce different-2 minerals it can not deposit its mineral in different-2 mines that actually we have. It will become alloys when reaching in different-2 mines. These different-2 pockets of minerals are possible only if Earth is a living thing only. (Intelligent Point ) 6. As tree has bark around it same Earth is also covered with bark. Continents are part of bark of Earth. When log of tree increases in girth its bark starts cracking and separating. Same Continents starts cracking when Earth started growing and expanding. There are lots of points on continents clearly indicating that at earlier stage of Earth they have separated from each other. http://yfrog.com/6zpicxaj 7. As resin erupting from log of tree same volcano are erupting from Earth. http://yfrog.com/5xvalcano2j 8. Log of tree contains core and crust as per attached link same Earth has core and crust. As red core of tree is hard and termite cannot eat easily same core of Earth is so hard that we can not dig it easily. http://yfrog.com/5ucorecrustj http://yfrog.com/gh08810treebark1221170loj 9. This is the complete mechanism of Planet from Meteoroids to Asteroid and Asteroid to Planet. As same from seed to small germinated plant and from germinated plant to big tree. http://yfrog.com/5rasteoidplantj 10. Summary: Planets are living thing like Tree and Plants taking birth from seeds (Meteoroids) having biological growth. Here universe is a soil where there Meteoroids are germinating converting in Planets. Author: Suresh Bansal sureshbansal...@gmail.com JUST BELIEVE IN YOURSELF On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:32 PM, meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com You can reach the person managing the list at meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. MRO HiRISE Images - December 15, 2010 (Ron Baalke) 2. THANKS TO ALL OF MY CUSTOMERS! (michael cottingham) 3. December Monthly Update of Website (Don Merchant) 4. Re: December Monthly Update of Website (Michael Gilmer) 5. Re: NASA Discovers Asteroid 2008 TC3 Delivered Assortment of Meteorites (Meteorites USA) 6. AD eBay auction (Tomasz Jakubowski) 7. Re: OT: Frustrated (Guenther) 8. Re: OT: Frustrated (Art) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:05:45 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov Subject: [meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - December 15, 2010 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com (Meteorite Mailing List) Message-ID: 201012160105.obg15jmj010...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov