[meteorite-list] AD eBay auction

2010-12-16 Thread Tomasz Jakubowski
Dear List Members
I have few auction ending soon (Millbillillie, Tamdakht and NWA 
chondrite lots) :
http://shop.ebay.com/meteoritepoland/m.html

Also one  Millbillillie 45 left :
http://picasaweb.google.com/illaenus/Millbillillie45g#

Beside this, I have many good looking NWA chondrites for trade or sale :
http://picasaweb.google.com/illaenus/NWA98Kg#
http://picasaweb.google.com/illaenus/NWA48Kg#
http://picasaweb.google.com/illaenus/NWA641118kg#
(more on my Picassa gallery)

All question please send to  : illae...@gmail.com


Kind Regards
Tomasz Jakubowski
IMCA  #2321


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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Frustrated

2010-12-16 Thread Guenther
Hi Jim,

I had the same problem at first. The problem was on my end. My email
settings are set to automatically send emails in HTML format. That's the way
I like it for day to day emails. When posting to a newsgroup I always have
to make sure that I double check that I am sending in Plain Text before
posting. Sometimes I forget and the message doesn't get posted. It should be
posted within a few seconds and when it doesn't I know I made the mistake.
If any of yours ever got posted if they were in HTML format, it would only
have been because Art made the correction and posted it on your behalf.

The only other thing I can think of that would keep your messages from
getting posted immediately is that it is stuck in Art's SPAM filter waiting
to be authenticated as legitimate. In which case, either the posting itself
or your email address may have been flagged. This can happen due to many
reasons and each email server's SPAM filter settings are different. Once an
email address is flagged, it is a manual process to allow that email address
to be delivered normally. Maybe ask Art if your email address is flagged.

I hope this helps.

Abe Guenther

 

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
jimsk...@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 4:48 PM
To: j...@cabassi.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Frustrated

I think that you're just encountering traffic jams on the super  
information highway. :)
 
Jim K

In a message dated 12/13/2010 8:10:06 P.M. Central Standard  Time, 
j...@cabassi.net writes:
G'Day List
I'm getting a little frustrated  as you can see from my heading. Am I
doing something wrong? Seems like a  certain amount of people's posts
appear instantly where others have to wait a  considerable amount of
time, and I mean alot of time. I could have walked  over to Chris
Spratt's house and delivered the message in the time it took,  well
actually I'm still waiting for it to be posted on the Met  List.  

Art, did I piss you off? Is there some sort of hierarchy  going on here?
Those that respond constantly get the sweet card? I mean,  don't get me
wrong.. it's just so strange that postings can happen in an  instant and
others you can take a whole day before they're posted. So what's  going
on? Do we have a glitch in the matrix?  

Curious minds want  to know. If anybody can shine some light on this, it
will be much  appreciated. Because I'm at my wits end trying to
correspond with the Met  List.

But apart from that, if this gets through I wish everyone the best  of
the season, be safe and love your family.

Cheers
John
IMCA #  2125

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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Frustrated

2010-12-16 Thread Art
Hi John;

Abe is correct; 99% of the time a post is delayed it is due to the
formatting of the email. HTML emails are held by the list software and
I need to manually release the post after verifying it doesn't contain
anything harmful (e.g. attachments, embedded scripts, etc.). I don't
constantly monitor these held emails so it may take some time for me
to review and release.

Format your emails as plain text and they will probably appear almost instantly.

Regards, Art

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 6:48 AM, Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net wrote:
 Hi Jim,

 I had the same problem at first. The problem was on my end. My email
 settings are set to automatically send emails in HTML format. That's the way
 I like it for day to day emails. When posting to a newsgroup I always have
 to make sure that I double check that I am sending in Plain Text before
 posting. Sometimes I forget and the message doesn't get posted. It should be
 posted within a few seconds and when it doesn't I know I made the mistake.
 If any of yours ever got posted if they were in HTML format, it would only
 have been because Art made the correction and posted it on your behalf.

 The only other thing I can think of that would keep your messages from
 getting posted immediately is that it is stuck in Art's SPAM filter waiting
 to be authenticated as legitimate. In which case, either the posting itself
 or your email address may have been flagged. This can happen due to many
 reasons and each email server's SPAM filter settings are different. Once an
 email address is flagged, it is a manual process to allow that email address
 to be delivered normally. Maybe ask Art if your email address is flagged.

 I hope this helps.

 Abe Guenther



 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
 jimsk...@aol.com
 Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 4:48 PM
 To: j...@cabassi.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Frustrated

 I think that you're just encountering traffic jams on the super
 information highway. :)

 Jim K

 In a message dated 12/13/2010 8:10:06 P.M. Central Standard  Time,
 j...@cabassi.net writes:
 G'Day List
 I'm getting a little frustrated  as you can see from my heading. Am I
 doing something wrong? Seems like a  certain amount of people's posts
 appear instantly where others have to wait a  considerable amount of
 time, and I mean alot of time. I could have walked  over to Chris
 Spratt's house and delivered the message in the time it took,  well
 actually I'm still waiting for it to be posted on the Met  List.

 Art, did I piss you off? Is there some sort of hierarchy  going on here?
 Those that respond constantly get the sweet card? I mean,  don't get me
 wrong.. it's just so strange that postings can happen in an  instant and
 others you can take a whole day before they're posted. So what's  going
 on? Do we have a glitch in the matrix?

 Curious minds want  to know. If anybody can shine some light on this, it
 will be much  appreciated. Because I'm at my wits end trying to
 correspond with the Met  List.

 But apart from that, if this gets through I wish everyone the best  of
 the season, be safe and love your family.

 Cheers
 John
 IMCA #  2125

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[meteorite-list] test 1 (please delete)

2010-12-16 Thread Zelimir . Gabelica

test

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Re: [meteorite-list] Geminid pic / photographing meteors

2010-12-16 Thread John Hendry
Chris,

To be clear about how I personally was looking at this; the length of time
the shutter is open has no bearing on the sensitivity to the meteor
exposure. That I thought was entirely controlled by aperture and ISO
sensitivity (i.e. film speed), along with the velocity, brightness and
trail persistence of the meteor. Camera field of view might also have a
bearing as the meteor image will spend a longer time over a particular
pixel sensor with a shorter focal length (i.e. wider field of view) and
thus be brighter in the image (though smaller). When you say the longer
your exposure, the less sensitive you will be to meteors then I can see
this from the point of view that the meteor exposure can be progressively
obscured by scattered light in the sky (from the
sun/moon/streetlights/background starlight) and from sensor noise in the
case of digital cameras. With sensor noise cancellation and a pitch black
sky, I would expect exactly the same meteor image from a 5 second exposure
versus a 30 minute exposure at the same f-stop and ISO, though the lower
magnitude stars (specifically those that haven't fully reached the cameras
upper exposure limit with the shorter shutter) will appear brighter as the
shutter is kept open longer. Is this about right or am I missing
something? I'm just not clear why I would lose fainter events with longer
shutter speeds other than for the reasons I outlined above.

I like your video idea... you could edit out all the dead action and make
something that looked like a much more exciting bombardment... though
jumping stars would probably give the game away unless you're using a
tracking mount. Plenty of scope for fun. Love your telescope images. M51
is just fantastic.

Cheers,
John





On 15/12/2010 11:34, Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote:

Keep in mind that the longer your exposure, the less sensitive you will
be 
to meteors. For maximum sensitivity to meteors, you'd like your exposure
time to be no longer than a typical meteor lasts- say a couple of
seconds. 
Anything more and you'll start losing fainter events. But with most
cameras, 
if your exposure gets too short you spend more time between exposures
than 
you do imaging the sky, and you start missing meteors or catching partial
trails. 30 seconds is probably a good compromise.

Using video is another solution. It maximizes sensitivity, but at the
expense of total pixel count.

Chris

*
Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com


- Original Message -
From: John Hendry p...@pict.co.uk
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Off topic- the weather IS getting worse +
On 
topic Geminid pic


 Thank you Carl. I did set out to capture half a dozen emanating from the
 radiant with something earthbound in the foreground, but just too much
 light pollution to hold the shutter open more than a couple of minutes
 even looking completely at the sky. I think I'd cut it back to 30 secs
or
 so during the successful frame to avoid blowing the glow on the clouds
too
 much. I'll try again at the next promising opportunity, and make plans
for
 a more rural location. I think you either have to shoot for a shortish
 shutter exposure/wide angle to minimise star trailing or use a long
 shutter speed to emphasise the trails. To my eye, very short star trails
 make it look like you've got a dodgy tripod. I may keep my eye open for
a
 used Meade and adapt the equatorial mount, but that approach would
cause a
 smeared foreground if there were terrestrial objects in frame, though I
 could get round that with multiple exposures.

 Regards,
 John

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Re: [meteorite-list] Geminid pic / photographing meteors

2010-12-16 Thread Chris Peterson
The sensitivity is very much related to exposure time. The longer the 
shutter is open, the more the sky background (and its associated noise) 
fills each pixel. This rapidly washes out fainter meteors. The actual 
exposure time for a meteor is the amount of time its image dwells on a 
single pixel. All the rest of the time, that pixel is accumulating signal 
and noise unrelated to the meteor. It turns out that for typical meteor 
speeds and typical focal lengths, video rates are just about optimal for 
sensitivity. Of course, if you're not using video, you do need to leave the 
shutter open long enough to catch most meteors in their entirety.


Remember, there is no such thing as noise cancellation. Some camera play 
tricks to hide noise, but they do so at the expense of signal. You cannot 
eliminate or even reduce noise- if you could, it wouldn't be noise, but 
something systematic.


Chris

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- Original Message - 
From: John Hendry p...@pict.co.uk

To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Geminid pic / photographing meteors



Chris,

To be clear about how I personally was looking at this; the length of time
the shutter is open has no bearing on the sensitivity to the meteor
exposure. That I thought was entirely controlled by aperture and ISO
sensitivity (i.e. film speed), along with the velocity, brightness and
trail persistence of the meteor. Camera field of view might also have a
bearing as the meteor image will spend a longer time over a particular
pixel sensor with a shorter focal length (i.e. wider field of view) and
thus be brighter in the image (though smaller). When you say the longer
your exposure, the less sensitive you will be to meteors then I can see
this from the point of view that the meteor exposure can be progressively
obscured by scattered light in the sky (from the
sun/moon/streetlights/background starlight) and from sensor noise in the
case of digital cameras. With sensor noise cancellation and a pitch black
sky, I would expect exactly the same meteor image from a 5 second exposure
versus a 30 minute exposure at the same f-stop and ISO, though the lower
magnitude stars (specifically those that haven't fully reached the cameras
upper exposure limit with the shorter shutter) will appear brighter as the
shutter is kept open longer. Is this about right or am I missing
something? I'm just not clear why I would lose fainter events with longer
shutter speeds other than for the reasons I outlined above.

I like your video idea... you could edit out all the dead action and make
something that looked like a much more exciting bombardment... though
jumping stars would probably give the game away unless you're using a
tracking mount. Plenty of scope for fun. Love your telescope images. M51
is just fantastic.

Cheers,
John


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[meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo

2010-12-16 Thread Mike Hankey
Over 2 nights of cold and mostly cloudy weather I was able to capture
21 meteor photos. I was really impressed with how active this shower
was especially the peak night.

One of these exposures caught two meteors within the same shot (a 25
second time frame)

http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/double-geminid.jpg

Photo Details: Canon 40d camera with Canon EF 15mm f/2.8 fish eye
lens; 25 second ISO 800 exposure

Pretty cool! I think they are brothers.

Mike Hankey
Freeland MD
http://mikesastrophotos.com
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[meteorite-list] MRO Provides Travel Tips for Mars Opportunity Rover

2010-12-16 Thread Ron Baalke


Dec. 16, 2010

Dwayne Brown  
Headquarters, Washington 
202-358-1726 
dwayne.c.br...@nasa.gov 

Guy Webster 
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. 
818-354-6278 
guy.webs...@jpl.nasa.gov 

Rachel Hoover 
Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. 
650-604-0643 
rachel.hoo...@nasa.gov   


RELEASE: 10-342

NASA SPACECRAFT PROVIDES TRAVEL TIPS FOR MARS ROVER

SAN FRANCISCO -- NASA's Mars Opportunity rover is getting important 
tips from an orbiting spacecraft as it explores areas that might hold 
clues about past Martian environments. 

Researchers are using a mineral-mapping instrument aboard NASA's Mars 
Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO) to help the rover investigate a large 
ancient crater called Endeavour. MRO's Compact Reconnaissance Imaging 
Spectrometer for Mars (CRISM) is providing maps of minerals at 
Endeavour's rim that are helping the team choose which area to 
explore first and where to go from there. 

As MRO orbits more than 150 miles high, the CRISM instrument provides 
mapping information for mineral exposures on the surface as small as 
a tennis court. 

This is the first time mineral detections from orbit are being used 
in tactical decisions about where to drive on Mars, said Ray 
Arvidson of Washington University in St. Louis. Arvidson is the 
deputy principal investigator for the Spirit and Opportunity rovers 
and a co-investigator for CRISM. 

Opportunity's science team chose to begin driving the rover toward the 
14-mile-wide crater in 2008, after four years studying other sites in 
what initially was planned as a three-month mission. The rover has 
traveled approximately nine miles since setting out for Endeavour 
crater. It will take several months to reach it. 

The team plans for Opportunity's exploration of Endeavour to begin at 
a rim fragment called Cape York. That feature is too low to be 
visible by the rover, but appears from orbit to be nearly surrounded 
by water-bearing minerals. The planned route then turns southward 
toward a higher rim fragment called Cape Tribulation, where CRISM has 
detected a class of clay minerals not investigated yet by a ground 
mission. 
Spacecraft orbiting Mars found these minerals to be widespread on the 
planet. The presence of clay minerals at Endeavour suggests an 
earlier and milder wet environment than the very acidic wet one 
indicated by previous evidence found by Opportunity. 

We used to have a disconnect between the scale of identifying 
minerals from orbit and what missions on the surface could examine, 
said CRISM team member Janice Bishop of NASA's Ames Research Center 
in Moffett Field, Calif., and the SETI Institute of Mountain View, 
Calif. Now, rovers are driving farther and orbital footprints are 
getting smaller. 

Ten years ago, an imaging spectrometer on the Mars Global Surveyor 
orbiter found an Oklahoma-sized are with a type of the mineral 
hematite exposed. This discovery motivated selection of the area as 
Opportunity's 2004 landing site. Each pixel footprint for that 
spectrometer was two miles across. CRISM resolves areas about 60 feet 
across. Last fall, the instrument began using a pixel-overlap 
technique that provided even better resolution. 

Opportunity has just reached a 90-meter-diameter (300-foot-diameter) 
crater called Santa Maria where CRISM detected a patch of ground with 
indications of water bound into the mineral. Opportunity will conduct 
a science campaign at the crater for the next several weeks to 
compare the ground results to the orbital indications. 

A Martian year lasts approximately 23 months. During the past Martian 
year, Opportunity covered more than 7.5 miles of the mission's 16 
total miles traveled since it landed in January 2004. The rover has 
returned more than 141,000 images. 

MRO reached the Red Planet in 2006 to begin a two-year primary science 
mission. Its data show Mars had diverse wet environments at many 
locations for differing durations during the planet's history, and 
climate-change cycles persist into the present era. The mission has 
returned more planetary data than all other Mars missions combined. 

JPL manages the Mars Exploration Rovers and the Mars Reconnaissance 
Orbiter for NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington. The 
Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory in Laurel, Md., 
manages CRISM. 

For more information about Mars missions, visit: 

http://www.nasa.gov/mars   

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Re: [meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo

2010-12-16 Thread Matthias Bärmann


Wonderful, Mike, thank you!
Best, Matthias

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meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 12:24 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo



Over 2 nights of cold and mostly cloudy weather I was able to capture
21 meteor photos. I was really impressed with how active this shower
was especially the peak night.

One of these exposures caught two meteors within the same shot (a 25
second time frame)

http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/double-geminid.jpg

Photo Details: Canon 40d camera with Canon EF 15mm f/2.8 fish eye
lens; 25 second ISO 800 exposure

Pretty cool! I think they are brothers.

Mike Hankey
Freeland MD
http://mikesastrophotos.com
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[meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo

2010-12-16 Thread bernd . pauli
Really *Great* shot !!!
Breathtaking!
Beautiful!

Thanks for sharing, Mike!

Bernd

.. getting ready for snow-shoveling tomorrowmorning

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[meteorite-list] Rocks-Paper-Scissors - AD

2010-12-16 Thread Greg Hupe

Dear List Members,

In the spirit of the Holidays, I would like to try something fun and offer a 
few select meteorites, including a new Lunar that has never been offered 
publicly. Here is how this special will work:


Rock - I have several great 'meteorites' listed below.
Paper - Make me a 'cash' offer, and if acceptable...
Scissors - ... I will 'cut' you a great deal!

NEW!! - Shisr 161 Lunar - Fragmental Breccia (TKW 57.2g, unpaired)
* This is the first time this meteorite has been offered publicly, in fact 
only one part slice has been sold to a particular Lunatic friend overseas.
** These are the only specimens that will be offered. I am presenting these 
for the owner, Best Offer over reserve (Please email for reserve).

Randy's Lunar web site entry:
http://www.meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/shisr161.htm
4.37g complete slice
55mm x 23mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/shisr161slice_4_370.jpg
350mg part end cut
11mm x 8mm x 4mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/shisr161_350mg.jpg
128mg fragment
~4mm x 4mm x 4mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/shisr161_128mg.jpg
~1mg two specks
in 30mm Gem Jar
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/shisr161_1mg.jpg

NWA 4468 Primitive Martian
11.3g part slice (Largest available)(crust along ~50% edge)
41mm x 37mm x 2.5mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/nwa4468/dsc00021.jpg

NWA 3163 Lunar Granulite
45.2g complete slice (Largest available)(crust along ~30% edge)
104mm x 55mm x 3mm (Polished BOTH sides!!)
1) front http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/nwa3163_45_2a.jpg
2) back http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/nwa3163_45_2b.jpg

NWA 5480 Olivine Diogenite
168.3g complete Slice (Largest available)
122mm x 119mm x 4mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/nwa5480/large/dsc5.jpg

NWA 5480 Olivine Diogenite
87.9g part End Cut
56mm x 58mm x 13mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/nwa5480/endcutprepared/dsc1.jpg

NWA 4932 Lunar Feldspathic Impact-Melt Breccia (Unpaired)(Low TKW)
2.812g Complete Slice
44mm x 20mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4932/dsc9.jpg
Randy's web site: http://www.meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/nwa4932.htm

Glorieta Individuals:
58g Pallasite (Large crystal, has some flow lines and lip-over): 
http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc1.jpg
37.1g Pallasite (Several crystals w/ mostly original crust!): 
http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc3.jpg
22.5g Pallasite (Many crystals, difficult to photograph): 
http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc7.jpg

26.7g Siderite: http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc00019.jpg
16.2g Siderite: http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc00021.jpg

NWA 3171 Martian Shergottite (Last Piece!)
1.51g Part Slice
25mm x 13mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/nwa3171.jpg

NWA 2696 Howardite
686g Individual (50% crusted!)
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/nwa2696_686g.jpg

NWA 3143 Diogenite
50.5g Part Slice (Largest piece available)
95mm x 48mm x 4mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/nwa3143.jpg

Ocate, NM IAB Iron
162.8g Complete Slice (Last slice left!)
117mm x 62mm x 4mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/dsc9.jpg
Meteoritical Bulletin entry:
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=ocatesfor=namesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=48976

Ocate, NM IAB Iron
910g End Cut (1 of 2 Pieces left)
117mm x 51mm x 60mm at widest points
front http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910a.jpg
back http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910b.jpg
another view http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910c.jpg

Oum Dreyga (Amgala) H3-5 Chondrite
136.6g End Cut (nice candidate for cutting)
65mm x 60mm x 20mm
front1 http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/oumdreyga1.jpg
front2 http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/oumdreyga2.jpg
back http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/oumdreyga3.jpg

NWA 4446 CV3 (Never offered publicly)
73g Individual w/ Huge CAI
48mm x 35mm x 30mm (CAI is 15mm x 14mm)
side1 http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4446/nwa4446a.jpg
side2 http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4446/nwa4446b.jpg
Close-up of CAI http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4446/nwa4446cai.jpg

NWA 4446 CV3 (Never offered publicly)
49.3g Complete Slice
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/dsc1.jpg

NWA 4446 CV3 MAIN MASS (Never offered publicly)
2203g Individual (Awesome!)
http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4446/nwa4446_2203g.jpg

NWA 1879 Mesosiderite (Only 2 pieces left!)
1) 63g Complete Slice 91mm x 60mm x 2-4mm (slight wedge cut): 
http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1879/dsc2.jpg
2) 186g End Cut 80mm x 70mm x 13mm: 
http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1879/dsc1.jpg


Tagish Lake Ungrouped Carbonaceous Kits
1) 50mg Kit: http://www.lunarrock.com/tagishlake/TagishLakeKit_50mg.jpg
2) 100mg Kit: http://www.lunarrock.com/tagishlake/TagishLakeKit_100mg.jpg

Carbonaceous Chondrite (unclassified)
1325g Individual w/ Huge CAI
128mm x 95mm x 50mm (CAI measures 20mm x 15mm!!!)
view1 

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks-Paper-Scissors - AD

2010-12-16 Thread Michael Gilmer
If someone would kindly loan me about $20K, I would go on a shopping
spree here.  LOL

Seriously though, those are some awesome specimens.  Those big olivine
diogenite pieces are super.  The big endcut reminds me of a piece of
marble cake.  The big palm-sized slice looks like a gourmet pancake.
Yummy.  :)





On 12/16/10, Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote:
 Dear List Members,

 In the spirit of the Holidays, I would like to try something fun and offer a
 few select meteorites, including a new Lunar that has never been offered
 publicly. Here is how this special will work:

 Rock - I have several great 'meteorites' listed below.
 Paper - Make me a 'cash' offer, and if acceptable...
 Scissors - ... I will 'cut' you a great deal!

 NEW!! - Shisr 161 Lunar - Fragmental Breccia (TKW 57.2g, unpaired)
 * This is the first time this meteorite has been offered publicly, in fact
 only one part slice has been sold to a particular Lunatic friend overseas.
 ** These are the only specimens that will be offered. I am presenting these
 for the owner, Best Offer over reserve (Please email for reserve).
 Randy's Lunar web site entry:
 http://www.meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/shisr161.htm
 4.37g complete slice
 55mm x 23mm x 2mm
 http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/shisr161slice_4_370.jpg
 350mg part end cut
 11mm x 8mm x 4mm
 http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/shisr161_350mg.jpg
 128mg fragment
 ~4mm x 4mm x 4mm
 http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/shisr161_128mg.jpg
 ~1mg two specks
 in 30mm Gem Jar
 http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/shisr161_1mg.jpg

 NWA 4468 Primitive Martian
 11.3g part slice (Largest available)(crust along ~50% edge)
 41mm x 37mm x 2.5mm
 http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/nwa4468/dsc00021.jpg

 NWA 3163 Lunar Granulite
 45.2g complete slice (Largest available)(crust along ~30% edge)
 104mm x 55mm x 3mm (Polished BOTH sides!!)
 1) front http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/nwa3163_45_2a.jpg
 2) back http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/nwa3163_45_2b.jpg

 NWA 5480 Olivine Diogenite
 168.3g complete Slice (Largest available)
 122mm x 119mm x 4mm
 http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/nwa5480/large/dsc5.jpg

 NWA 5480 Olivine Diogenite
 87.9g part End Cut
 56mm x 58mm x 13mm
 http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/nwa5480/endcutprepared/dsc1.jpg

 NWA 4932 Lunar Feldspathic Impact-Melt Breccia (Unpaired)(Low TKW)
 2.812g Complete Slice
 44mm x 20mm x 2mm
 http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4932/dsc9.jpg
 Randy's web site: http://www.meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/nwa4932.htm

 Glorieta Individuals:
 58g Pallasite (Large crystal, has some flow lines and lip-over):
 http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc1.jpg
 37.1g Pallasite (Several crystals w/ mostly original crust!):
 http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc3.jpg
 22.5g Pallasite (Many crystals, difficult to photograph):
 http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc7.jpg
 26.7g Siderite: http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc00019.jpg
 16.2g Siderite: http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc00021.jpg

 NWA 3171 Martian Shergottite (Last Piece!)
 1.51g Part Slice
 25mm x 13mm x 2mm
 http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/nwa3171.jpg

 NWA 2696 Howardite
 686g Individual (50% crusted!)
 http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/nwa2696_686g.jpg

 NWA 3143 Diogenite
 50.5g Part Slice (Largest piece available)
 95mm x 48mm x 4mm
 http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/nwa3143.jpg

 Ocate, NM IAB Iron
 162.8g Complete Slice (Last slice left!)
 117mm x 62mm x 4mm
 http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/dsc9.jpg
 Meteoritical Bulletin entry:
 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=ocatesfor=namesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=48976

 Ocate, NM IAB Iron
 910g End Cut (1 of 2 Pieces left)
 117mm x 51mm x 60mm at widest points
 front http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910a.jpg
 back http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910b.jpg
 another view http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910c.jpg

 Oum Dreyga (Amgala) H3-5 Chondrite
 136.6g End Cut (nice candidate for cutting)
 65mm x 60mm x 20mm
 front1 http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/oumdreyga1.jpg
 front2 http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/oumdreyga2.jpg
 back http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/oumdreyga3.jpg

 NWA 4446 CV3 (Never offered publicly)
 73g Individual w/ Huge CAI
 48mm x 35mm x 30mm (CAI is 15mm x 14mm)
 side1 http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4446/nwa4446a.jpg
 side2 http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4446/nwa4446b.jpg
 Close-up of CAI http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4446/nwa4446cai.jpg

 NWA 4446 CV3 (Never offered publicly)
 49.3g Complete Slice
 http://www.lunarrock.com/12-16-2010/dsc1.jpg

 NWA 4446 CV3 MAIN MASS (Never offered publicly)
 2203g Individual (Awesome!)
 http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4446/nwa4446_2203g.jpg

 NWA 1879 Mesosiderite (Only 2 pieces left!)
 1) 63g Complete Slice 91mm x 60mm x 2-4mm (slight wedge cut):
 

Re: [meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo

2010-12-16 Thread Stuart McDaniel

Nice picture, I caught a nice one too.


http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b143/MrKrink/PHOTOGRAPHY/ASTROPHOTOGRAPHY/METEORITES/Geminid1-1.jpg




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To: mike.han...@gmail.com ; meteor...@meteorobs.org ; 
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo

Really *Great* shot !!!
Breathtaking!
Beautiful!

Thanks for sharing, Mike!

Bernd

.. getting ready for snow-shoveling tomorrowmorning

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Re: [meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo

2010-12-16 Thread Rob Holcomb
Thanks for sharing! I love night photography and to catch multiple meteors 
is tough to do.

Rob Holcomb
http://www.rholcomb.com

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo


Over 2 nights of cold and mostly cloudy weather I was able to capture
21 meteor photos. I was really impressed with how active this shower
was especially the peak night.

One of these exposures caught two meteors within the same shot (a 25
second time frame)

http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/double-geminid.jpg

Photo Details: Canon 40d camera with Canon EF 15mm f/2.8 fish eye
lens; 25 second ISO 800 exposure

Pretty cool! I think they are brothers.

Mike Hankey
Freeland MD
http://mikesastrophotos.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo

2010-12-16 Thread Michael Johnson
My neighbor Jimmy Eubanks made this great shot a few nights ago:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/astroimaging/5263191360/

Regards,
Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org

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Sent: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:02:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo

Thanks for sharing! I love night photography and to catch multiple meteors 
is tough to do.
Rob Holcomb
http://www.rholcomb.com

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Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:24 PM
To: Global Meteor Observing Forum meteor...@meteorobs.org; 
meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo

 Over 2 nights of cold and mostly cloudy weather I was able to capture
 21 meteor photos. I was really impressed with how active this shower
 was especially the peak night.

 One of these exposures caught two meteors within the same shot (a 25
 second time frame)

 http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/double-geminid.jpg

 Photo Details: Canon 40d camera with Canon EF 15mm f/2.8 fish eye
 lens; 25 second ISO 800 exposure

 Pretty cool! I think they are brothers.

 Mike Hankey
 Freeland MD
 http://mikesastrophotos.com
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[meteorite-list] Google Book Tool Tracks Cultural Change With Words

2010-12-16 Thread Paul H.
Google Book Tool Tracks Cultural Change With Words
by Dan Charles, All Things Considered, Dec. 16, 2010
http://www.npr.org/2010/12/16/132106374/google-book-tool-tracks-cultural-change-with-words

Google Ngram Viewer provides searchable dataset of 
books. Los Angeles Times, December 16, 2010
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2010/12/google-ngram-viewer-provides-searchable-dataset-of-books.html

New Google tool, free to public, reveals evolution of language
by Lisa M. Krieger, San Jose Mercury News, December 16, 2010
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_16875900?nclick_check=1

Culturomics webpage at http://www.culturomics.org/

The Google Books Ngram Viewer is at 
http://ngrams.googlelabs.com/

The Science paper is:

Michel, J.-B., Y. K. Shen, A. P. Aiden, A. Veres, M. K. Gray,
The Google Books Team, J. P.  Pickett, D. Hoiberg, D. Clancy,
P. Norvig, J. Orwant, S. Pinker, M. A. Nowak, and E. L.
Aiden, 2010, Quantitative Analysis of Culture Using Millions
of Digitized Books. Published Online,  Science Express, Dec.
16, 2010, DOI: 10.1126/science.1199644,
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2010/12/15/science.1199644

1. I did an analysis of the word meteorite. The frequency 
goes up and down within a restricted range between 
1880 and middle 1950s. Then, the frequency of its usage 
increases abruptly until it peaks about early 1960s. 
After this peak, it usage decreases until it hits a low about
middle 1990s. Then it usage rises again and peaks about 
2000 and drops again.

2. The phrase impact crater has low usage until about 
the very late 1950s. Then its usage starts increasing
until about middle 1990s when its usage very abruptly
increases. Its usage peaks about 2000 to early 2000s
and starts dropping.

3. The work Chicxulub appears in the very early 1990s 
and its usage rises quite abruptly and peaks about 1999.
Then its usage drops during the 2000s.

Yours,

Paul H.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 88, Issue 28

2010-12-16 Thread Suresh Bansal
Theory of Earth Formation   


1.  Universe is like a natural forest where different-2 Planets are
growing and last shrinking and dying. As in the natural forest where
different-2 seeds of trees  plants are germinating and converting in
big trees  plants, And after completion of their age, started
shrinking  dying.

2.  As in the natural forest produces thousands of its seeds and only
few seeds can germinate and after germination few can convert in big
trees only same as old cosmic bodies produce millions of Meteoroids
and few Meteoroids can germinate in asteroid and out of these
asteroids a very few can convert in big Planets only. Although all
Meteoroids are not seed of Planets, only few Meteoroids are seeds ,
produced by old cosmic  bodies  rest are debris of old cosmic bodies.
One Planet is a result of one Meteoroid only as one tree is a result
of one seed only.

http://yfrog.com/m9meteoriodj

3.  As seeds contains Amino Acid and Proteins. The main properties of
seed same Meteoroids (seed) contains Amino Acid  proteins.

4.  Plate Tectonics is the main part of this theory. But biological
process of the Earth is responsible for the motion of plates only. At
some point on the log of tree You can see black plates in the red core
of log of tree are pushing white crust of log toward outside
extraordinary, making like mountains on log of tree. Same Plates in
the Earth formed Mountains.  Please see the attached link for more
clarification.

http://yfrog.com/0g72697054j

5.  Minerals available on Earth or we can say mineral produced by Earth
are also produced by all living things. I mean Iron, Zn, CU, Ni, etc.
Are produced by all living thing by biological process. This is very
much common factor for all living things including Planets. If Earth
is a just ball of rocks only then It can not produced different-2
minerals like all other living things even if it can produce
different-2 minerals it can not deposit its mineral in different-2
mines that actually we have. It will become alloys when reaching in
different-2 mines. These different-2 pockets of minerals are possible
only if Earth is a living thing only. (Intelligent Point )

6.  As tree has bark around it same Earth is also covered with bark.
Continents are part of bark of Earth. When log of tree increases in
girth its bark starts cracking and separating. Same Continents starts
cracking when Earth started growing and expanding. There are lots of
points on continents clearly indicating that at earlier stage of Earth
they have separated from each other.

http://yfrog.com/6zpicxaj



7.  As resin erupting from log of tree same volcano are erupting from Earth.

http://yfrog.com/5xvalcano2j

8.  Log of tree contains core and crust as per attached link same Earth
has core and crust. As red core of tree is hard and termite cannot eat
easily same core of Earth is so hard that we can not dig it easily.

http://yfrog.com/5ucorecrustj

http://yfrog.com/gh08810treebark1221170loj


9.  This is the complete mechanism of Planet from Meteoroids to
Asteroid and Asteroid to Planet. As same from seed to small germinated
plant and from germinated plant to big tree.

http://yfrog.com/5rasteoidplantj

10. Summary: Planets are living thing like Tree and Plants  taking
birth from seeds (Meteoroids)  having biological growth. Here
universe is a soil where there Meteoroids are germinating  converting
in Planets.



Author:

Suresh Bansal
sureshbansal...@gmail.com
JUST BELIEVE IN YOURSELF


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