Re: [meteorite-list] TUCSON AUCTION ETIQUETTE/ AN APOLOGY IN ORDER?
Thank you Jason. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Jason Utas >Sent: Feb 7, 2011 7:36 PM >To: Meteorite-list >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] TUCSON AUCTION ETIQUETTE/ AN APOLOGY IN ORDER? > >Michael, All, >I'd like to point out that the above articles do not shed any light on >the professional demeanor of our own Count (Robert Deiro). To quote >one of the articles: > >"Robert Deiro, who started the auction business in 1976 and sold it to >his son in 1991, is estranged from his son. He's embarrassed his name >is involved even though he isn't. "This has really been hard on me," >the retiree said." > >I'm sorry if this brings any unwanted/unpleasant things up, but I felt >that this should be clarified, as the published articles were very >misleading if the above lines were not pointed out. >Regards, >Jason > >On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:14 PM, mike oatman wrote: >> Dear Meteorite List and Count Deiro, >> >> I read with interest the posts regarding the 2011 Tucson Auction. I >> have attended the Blood auction in past years and always enjoyed >> myself. The Count's post seems to indicate that Michael's auction was >> conducted poorly. I realize that you have emailed that it was not your >> intent to >> refer to the Blood Auction specifically, but you must agree that it >> seems you are directly insulting Mr. Blood and the girls working the ring. >> >> >> I had a chance to google your Auction Firm and it seems that the Deiro >> Auctioneer's have defrauded many well respected members of the >> community. Since you mentioned that you serve as counsel to the firms >> I assume that all of these individuals and charities have been paid the >> proceeds they had due and that your firms are conducting business in a >> reputable manner. Sometimes one needs to look in the mirror before >> offering unsolicited advice to another. >> >> In my opinion public apologies are in order. >> >> >> http://www.lvrj.com/news/claudine-williams-memory-deserves-better-than-this-81882842.html >> >> http://www.lvrj.com/news/you-win-some-and-lose-some-trying-to-help-readers-99743969.html >> >> http://www.allbusiness.com/government/government-bodies-offices-regional-local/14198362-1.html >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Michael Oatman >> >> >> >> Count Deiro wrote the following >> >> I owned and have operated some of the largest auction firms in the >> nation since receiving my Certified Auctioneer Institute professional >> designation from Indiana University in 1985. Prior to that, I attended >> Missouri Auction School and served an apprenticeship at Sothebys in >> New York. I became licensed in eight states. I was the Charter >> President of the Nevada State Auctioneers Association. My firms have >> sold, and I have gaveled down, over a billion dollars in real and >> personal property, even some meteorites at this auction last year. I >> have sold my auction interests to family members and have been of >> counsel to our firms and other companies for the past 15 years. >> >> So the qualifying remarks having been made…here we go: >> >> SOME (NOT ALL) AUCTION POLICIES AND TECHNIQUES >> >> Auctioneers have a legal fiduciary obligation to Consignors. >> >> They should be knowledgeable of the items they sell and should be able >> to pronounce names and make accurate descriptions. >> >> An auctioneer has to know the retail value of every lot and have >> examples to quote to the audience, so that he can open the bid at a >> sum that encourages bidders to bid on the money. Opening a $500 item >> at $20 is incompetence. Getting an opening bid that is off the >> money...say $100 on a $500 item and then asking for $120 instead of >> $200 is something you learn not to do the first day at auction school. >> >> It is critical that auctioneers make the audience believe they know >> what they are selling, and what it’s worth, so that bidders will have >> confidence to bid what is being asked. Failing to answer legitimate >> questions from bidders ruins credibility. >> >> Never say “I have $200”. Auctioneers don’t have anything. Better to >> say “at $200”, or $200 is bid.” >> >> Taking a bid from an opening bidder, and then acquiring another bid >> and then not go immediately back to the opening bidder is insulting to >> him. Work the first to bidders dry…then take a competing bid. Saves >> time and respects the first bidders. >> >> All auctioneers should employ trained ring persons. They are >> invaluable in encouraging bidders, showing lots, and answering >> questions like “where we at?” or “what’s the bid?” >> >> It is not accepted practice for an auctioneer to bid on his own >> behalf, even if he does not own the goods being sold. If he does, he >> should never announce the fact, as it tends to discourage bidding and >> hurts his consignors and credibility. >> >> He should have several house numbers to sell a passed lot to, or a lot >> that didn’t meet an undisclosed reserve, or a lot he has bought. >> >> Do not disclose reserves. Do not
Re: [meteorite-list] TUCSON AUCTION ETIQUETTE/ AN APOLOGY IN ORDER?
Hear, hear Linton! Thank you for your voice of reason. I too got skunked in the auction and could complain. But what would that accomplish? At the end of the day, after all is said and done, I had a great time watching others winning great pieces, sellers getting good prices, and everyone in the house having a wonderful time. And, I could keep a little money in my pocket. ;^) I thought everyone did the best they could under the situation, and I commend all for their efforts! We are all family here, sharing a common passion. Lets show each other some civility and respect, and offer the benefit of the doubt when not in command of all the facts. gary On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:36 PM, Linton Rohr wrote: > Good grief! > All this post-auction bickering reminds me of the old adage, "No good deed > goes unpunished". I had a great time at the auction, in spite of not winning > a single item, and I appreciate the efforts of all those who make it happen. > I don't go expecting the tightly run ship of a world-class auction house, but > to have fun with friends in the meteorite community - some old, some new, and > some I've yet to meet. > Is everything perfect? Of course not! We're all human and we live on planet > Earth. But we should be celebrating our common interest, not quibbling over > petty problems. I can understand the differing points of view, but I don't > understand the point of complaining about it all. I assure you, we'll all > have bigger things on our minds on our deathbeds. > So hats off to Michael, Ruben, Leigh Anne, Suzanne, Lisa Marie, Twink, John, > and anyone else involved. We'll have even more fun next year! > Linton > > - Original Message - From: "mike oatman" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 7:14 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] TUCSON AUCTION ETIQUETTE/ AN APOLOGY IN ORDER? > > > Dear Meteorite List and Count Deiro, > > I read with interest the posts regarding the 2011 Tucson Auction. I > have attended the Blood auction in past years and always enjoyed > myself. The Count's post seems to indicate that Michael's auction was > conducted poorly. I realize that you have emailed that it was not your intent > to > refer to the Blood Auction specifically, but you must agree that it > seems you are directly insulting Mr. Blood and the girls working the ring. > > > I had a chance to google your Auction Firm and it seems that the Deiro > Auctioneer's have defrauded many well respected members of the > community. Since you mentioned that you serve as counsel to the firms > I assume that all of these individuals and charities have been paid the > proceeds they had due and that your firms are conducting business in a > reputable manner. Sometimes one needs to look in the mirror before > offering unsolicited advice to another. > > In my opinion public apologies are in order. > > > http://www.lvrj.com/news/claudine-williams-memory-deserves-better-than-this-81882842.html > > http://www.lvrj.com/news/you-win-some-and-lose-some-trying-to-help-readers-99743969.html > > http://www.allbusiness.com/government/government-bodies-offices-regional-local/14198362-1.html > > Sincerely, > > Michael Oatman > > > > Count Deiro wrote the following > > I owned and have operated some of the largest auction firms in the > nation since receiving my Certified Auctioneer Institute professional > designation from Indiana University in 1985. Prior to that, I attended > Missouri Auction School and served an apprenticeship at Sothebys in > New York. I became licensed in eight states. I was the Charter > President of the Nevada State Auctioneers Association. My firms have > sold, and I have gaveled down, over a billion dollars in real and > personal property, even some meteorites at this auction last year. I > have sold my auction interests to family members and have been of > counsel to our firms and other companies for the past 15 years. > > So the qualifying remarks having been made…here we go: > > SOME (NOT ALL) AUCTION POLICIES AND TECHNIQUES > > Auctioneers have a legal fiduciary obligation to Consignors. > > They should be knowledgeable of the items they sell and should be able > to pronounce names and make accurate descriptions. > > An auctioneer has to know the retail value of every lot and have > examples to quote to the audience, so that he can open the bid at a > sum that encourages bidders to bid on the money. Opening a $500 item > at $20 is incompetence. Getting an opening bid that is off the > money...say $100 on a $500 item and then asking for $120 instead of > $200 is something you learn not to do the first day at auction school. > > It is critical that auctioneers make the audience believe they know > what they are selling, and what it’s worth, so that bidders will have > confidence to bid what is being asked. Failing to answer legitimate > questions from bidders ruins credibility. > > Never say “I have $200”. Auctioneers don’t have anything. Better to
Re: [meteorite-list] TUCSON AUCTION ETIQUETTE/ AN APOLOGY IN ORDER?
Dear Mr. Oatman, You have libeled me. The firm you refer to was sold by me to one of my son's in 1991. I am not now, nor have I ever been a member of this company, although unfortunately it bears a name very similar to mine. I am Count Guido Roberto Deiro (73). This man is Guy Robert Deiro (age 51). The son of my first wife, whom I married and divorced in the 1960's. I did not raise this man. I have not seen or spoken to him in over two years. I have other sons and daughters and 11 grandchildren. Over the years, I have endeavored to set them up in various enterprises to insure their futures. This son did well with the business I sold him twenty years ago and was a respected member of the community until he became embroiled in a horrendous divorce. The incident you saw fit to publish to discredit me was the result of poor choices made by G. Robert and his sixth wife. They set about to destroy each other and did a good job of it. The person whose estate was sold, and the proceeds not given to the charity beneficiaries,as described in the articles you republished to slander me, was one of my dearest friends. For nearly eight years in the 1970's, I was associated with Shelby and Claudine Williams at what is Harrahs Casino on the Las Vegas Strip. So you see, the victims in this debacle were friends of mine. To have my kin involved in this embarassment is doubly painful. Mr. G. Robert Deiro was given the task of liquidating Claudine's estate because he was my son. I was in Europe when the sale of her home, furnishings and personal property was sold at auction by his company. My understanding is, that a woman, to go unnamed, drained his accounts and ran off with the money leaving him destitute. He had to file bankruptcy and lost everything he owned, including the custody of his three children by various wives, his business and his reputation. I understand he made some restitution and then left the state. If you would have taken the time to thoroughly read Jane Morrison's first column in the Review Journal, you would have seen that I was not associated with this affair, or the company, and that I was horrified by the outcome and furious with my eldest son. I suggest you inquire as to my reputation with Jane Morrison tomorrow. You can E-mail her at j...@reviewjournal.com or call (702) 383-0275. She also blogs at lvrj.com/blogs/morrison. I am a gentleman and I can see where you, in your glee at having perhaps found something to skewer me with, rushed, as they say, to judgement. I won't demand satisfaction. A simple apology will suffice. Count Guido Roberto Deiro IMCA 3536 MetSoc -Original Message- >From: mike oatman >Sent: Feb 7, 2011 7:14 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] TUCSON AUCTION ETIQUETTE/ AN APOLOGY IN ORDER? > >Dear Meteorite List and Count Deiro, > >I read with interest the posts regarding the 2011 Tucson Auction. I >have attended the Blood auction in past years and always enjoyed >myself. The Count's post seems to indicate that Michael's auction was >conducted poorly. I realize that you have emailed that it was not your intent >to >refer to the Blood Auction specifically, but you must agree that it >seems you are directly insulting Mr. Blood and the girls working the ring. > > >I had a chance to google your Auction Firm and it seems that the Deiro >Auctioneer's have defrauded many well respected members of the >community. Since you mentioned that you serve as counsel to the firms >I assume that all of these individuals and charities have been paid the >proceeds they had due and that your firms are conducting business in a >reputable manner. Sometimes one needs to look in the mirror before >offering unsolicited advice to another. > >In my opinion public apologies are in order. > > >http://www.lvrj.com/news/claudine-williams-memory-deserves-better-than-this-81882842.html > >http://www.lvrj.com/news/you-win-some-and-lose-some-trying-to-help-readers-99743969.html > >http://www.allbusiness.com/government/government-bodies-offices-regional-local/14198362-1.html > >Sincerely, > >Michael Oatman > > > >Count Deiro wrote the following > >I owned and have operated some of the largest auction firms in the >nation since receiving my Certified Auctioneer Institute professional >designation from Indiana University in 1985. Prior to that, I attended >Missouri Auction School and served an apprenticeship at Sothebys in >New York. I became licensed in eight states. I was the Charter >President of the Nevada State Auctioneers Association. My firms have >sold, and I have gaveled down, over a billion dollars in real and >personal property, even some meteorites at this auction last year. I >have sold my auction interests to family members and have been of >counsel to our firms and other companies for the past 15 years. > >So the qualifying remarks having been made…here we go: > >SOME (NOT ALL) AUCTION POLIC
Re: [meteorite-list] TUCSON AUCTION ETIQUETTE/ AN APOLOGY IN ORDER?
Good grief! All this post-auction bickering reminds me of the old adage, "No good deed goes unpunished". I had a great time at the auction, in spite of not winning a single item, and I appreciate the efforts of all those who make it happen. I don't go expecting the tightly run ship of a world-class auction house, but to have fun with friends in the meteorite community - some old, some new, and some I've yet to meet. Is everything perfect? Of course not! We're all human and we live on planet Earth. But we should be celebrating our common interest, not quibbling over petty problems. I can understand the differing points of view, but I don't understand the point of complaining about it all. I assure you, we'll all have bigger things on our minds on our deathbeds. So hats off to Michael, Ruben, Leigh Anne, Suzanne, Lisa Marie, Twink, John, and anyone else involved. We'll have even more fun next year! Linton - Original Message - From: "mike oatman" To: Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 7:14 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] TUCSON AUCTION ETIQUETTE/ AN APOLOGY IN ORDER? Dear Meteorite List and Count Deiro, I read with interest the posts regarding the 2011 Tucson Auction. I have attended the Blood auction in past years and always enjoyed myself. The Count's post seems to indicate that Michael's auction was conducted poorly. I realize that you have emailed that it was not your intent to refer to the Blood Auction specifically, but you must agree that it seems you are directly insulting Mr. Blood and the girls working the ring. I had a chance to google your Auction Firm and it seems that the Deiro Auctioneer's have defrauded many well respected members of the community. Since you mentioned that you serve as counsel to the firms I assume that all of these individuals and charities have been paid the proceeds they had due and that your firms are conducting business in a reputable manner. Sometimes one needs to look in the mirror before offering unsolicited advice to another. In my opinion public apologies are in order. http://www.lvrj.com/news/claudine-williams-memory-deserves-better-than-this-81882842.html http://www.lvrj.com/news/you-win-some-and-lose-some-trying-to-help-readers-99743969.html http://www.allbusiness.com/government/government-bodies-offices-regional-local/14198362-1.html Sincerely, Michael Oatman Count Deiro wrote the following I owned and have operated some of the largest auction firms in the nation since receiving my Certified Auctioneer Institute professional designation from Indiana University in 1985. Prior to that, I attended Missouri Auction School and served an apprenticeship at Sothebys in New York. I became licensed in eight states. I was the Charter President of the Nevada State Auctioneers Association. My firms have sold, and I have gaveled down, over a billion dollars in real and personal property, even some meteorites at this auction last year. I have sold my auction interests to family members and have been of counsel to our firms and other companies for the past 15 years. So the qualifying remarks having been made…here we go: SOME (NOT ALL) AUCTION POLICIES AND TECHNIQUES Auctioneers have a legal fiduciary obligation to Consignors. They should be knowledgeable of the items they sell and should be able to pronounce names and make accurate descriptions. An auctioneer has to know the retail value of every lot and have examples to quote to the audience, so that he can open the bid at a sum that encourages bidders to bid on the money. Opening a $500 item at $20 is incompetence. Getting an opening bid that is off the money...say $100 on a $500 item and then asking for $120 instead of $200 is something you learn not to do the first day at auction school. It is critical that auctioneers make the audience believe they know what they are selling, and what it’s worth, so that bidders will have confidence to bid what is being asked. Failing to answer legitimate questions from bidders ruins credibility. Never say “I have $200”. Auctioneers don’t have anything. Better to say “at $200”, or $200 is bid.” Taking a bid from an opening bidder, and then acquiring another bid and then not go immediately back to the opening bidder is insulting to him. Work the first to bidders dry…then take a competing bid. Saves time and respects the first bidders. All auctioneers should employ trained ring persons. They are invaluable in encouraging bidders, showing lots, and answering questions like “where we at?” or “what’s the bid?” It is not accepted practice for an auctioneer to bid on his own behalf, even if he does not own the goods being sold. If he does, he should never announce the fact, as it tends to discourage bidding and hurts his consignors and credibility. He should have several house numbers to sell a passed lot to, or a lot that didn’t meet an undisclosed reserve, or a lot he has bought. Do not disclose reserves. Do not announce the mail in bids. Give the
Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery Box ~ Revealed!!
That was a great idea Greg, and I knew you'd have it filled with good stuff. All of us IMCA members owe you a big thank you for your generosity Same goes to Steve and Geoff for their fund raising entries. Bravo! I only wish I'd have been sitting on a bigger cushion of cash with which to bid. Next year for sure... Linton - Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe" To: "Richard Montgomery" ; "'Meteorite-list List'" Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 4:27 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mystery Box ~ Revealed!! Hello Richard M. and List, Richard M. inquired: "I still haven't heard what was in the Mystery box. Write back!" The Tucson Show and Michael Blood Auction was a lot of fun... and MANY great deals were had by the lucky high bidders, including the winner of my "Mystery Box" benefitting the IMCA. Now that the auction is in the history books, here were the seven items: 1) NWA 2798 - L3.2 - 7.72g 2) NWA 3143 - Diogenite - 5.4g 3) NWA 3161 - LL3.7 - 11.2g 4) NWA 4446 - CV3 - 11.5g 5) NWA 4882 - Brachinite - 7.7g 6) NWA 4930 - Martian Shergottite - .446g 7) NWA 5480 - Olivine Diogenite - 15.3g It was fun to hear bids going higher and higher as the items were revealed after the hammer went down. I'll venture to say the winning bidder was VERY happy with his win!! ;-) Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault -Original Message- From: Richard Montgomery Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 11:19 PM To: 'Meteorite-list List' Subject: [meteorite-list] the auction Hello List, Richard Montgomery here (goldierocks)after the thin section of 5400 went for pennies (well, dollars, but relatively few) I lost the feed and caught some way-over-due sleep (not as much as Bernd may have needed)...yet, I still haven't heard what was in the Mystery box. Write back! Thanks __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Big Kahuna
Aloha Gary, Mahalo nui loa na ho'olaule'a me la kaua. Hopefully, ka ua one day too! This year, especially, (as in years past, i'm sure) many people stepped forward to accomplish several goals at the show--Ruben's efforts (with others) have probably set a standard for future shows & events which for me prompts the old proverb.. "E lauhoe mai na wa'a; i ke ka, i ka hoe; i ka hoe, i ke ka; pae aku i ka aina. Please, thank the wife for the shirts, everyone loves them (need more). And, for you and family, every morning.Mahalo ka pua, ua wehe kaiao. Did you get charged extra for the the malia? For all of everyone's efforts in hunting, studying, showing and discussing meteorites (present and past) one could also say.He lawai'a no ke kai papa'u, he pokole ke aho; he lawai'a no ke kai hohonu he loa ke aho. Trust me List, ALL received Thanks. Mahalo nui poa, malma pono, John L IMCA# 1896 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The recent Ebay "Apollo Moon Rock"
Hi All, Of course they deny that the rock is real. There is no reason for them to acknowledge the loss of any material and if they were to confiscate it, these pretenders would simply be encouraged. So ignore them and hope values never get established. RobH http://www.processchemistry.com -- From: "Steve Schoner" Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:14 PM To: Subject: [meteorite-list] The recent Ebay "Apollo Moon Rock" I sent an e-mail to the NASA Johnson Space Center regarding the supposed "authentic" Apollo moon rock that is not a meteorite with the link to that Ebay auction. Here is the first reply that I got: Dear Steve Schoner: Your query was forwarded to me. The rock for sale on eBay is/was not a real Moon rock. Sincerely, Jennifer Ross-Nazzal, Ph.D. Historian, NASA Johnson Space Center ITAMS Contract 17047 El Camino Real, Suite 217 Houston, TX 77058 281-486-3942 jennifer.m.ross-naz...@nasa.gov http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/history/history_office.htm I might get a few more responses as I sent a couple of e-mails out to other NASA departments that handle Apollo moon rocks. Steve Schoner __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The recent Ebay "Apollo Moon Rock"
That was fast... Eric On 2/7/2011 9:14 PM, Steve Schoner wrote: I sent an e-mail to the NASA Johnson Space Center regarding the supposed "authentic" Apollo moon rock that is not a meteorite with the link to that Ebay auction. Here is the first reply that I got: Dear Steve Schoner: Your query was forwarded to me. The rock for sale on eBay is/was not a real Moon rock. Sincerely, Jennifer Ross-Nazzal, Ph.D. Historian, NASA Johnson Space Center ITAMS Contract 17047 El Camino Real, Suite 217 Houston, TX 77058 281-486-3942 jennifer.m.ross-naz...@nasa.gov http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/history/history_office.htm I might get a few more responses as I sent a couple of e-mails out to other NASA departments that handle Apollo moon rocks. Steve Schoner $65/Hr Job - 25 Openings Part-Time job ($20-$65/hr). Requirements: Home Internet Access http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3341/4d50d1acaebe7245a79st02duc __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The recent Ebay "Apollo Moon Rock"
I sent an e-mail to the NASA Johnson Space Center regarding the supposed "authentic" Apollo moon rock that is not a meteorite with the link to that Ebay auction. Here is the first reply that I got: Dear Steve Schoner: Your query was forwarded to me. The rock for sale on eBay is/was not a real Moon rock. Sincerely, Jennifer Ross-Nazzal, Ph.D. Historian, NASA Johnson Space Center ITAMS Contract 17047 El Camino Real, Suite 217 Houston, TX 77058 281-486-3942 jennifer.m.ross-naz...@nasa.gov http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/history/history_office.htm I might get a few more responses as I sent a couple of e-mails out to other NASA departments that handle Apollo moon rocks. Steve Schoner $65/Hr Job - 25 Openings Part-Time job ($20-$65/hr). Requirements: Home Internet Access http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3341/4d50d1acaebe7245a79st02duc __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Meteorites & Stuff! Back to Tucson Sale!
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Re: [meteorite-list] TUCSON AUCTION ETIQUETTE/ AN APOLOGY IN ORDER?
Michael, All, I'd like to point out that the above articles do not shed any light on the professional demeanor of our own Count (Robert Deiro). To quote one of the articles: "Robert Deiro, who started the auction business in 1976 and sold it to his son in 1991, is estranged from his son. He's embarrassed his name is involved even though he isn't. "This has really been hard on me," the retiree said." I'm sorry if this brings any unwanted/unpleasant things up, but I felt that this should be clarified, as the published articles were very misleading if the above lines were not pointed out. Regards, Jason On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:14 PM, mike oatman wrote: > Dear Meteorite List and Count Deiro, > > I read with interest the posts regarding the 2011 Tucson Auction. I > have attended the Blood auction in past years and always enjoyed > myself. The Count's post seems to indicate that Michael's auction was > conducted poorly. I realize that you have emailed that it was not your intent > to > refer to the Blood Auction specifically, but you must agree that it > seems you are directly insulting Mr. Blood and the girls working the ring. > > > I had a chance to google your Auction Firm and it seems that the Deiro > Auctioneer's have defrauded many well respected members of the > community. Since you mentioned that you serve as counsel to the firms > I assume that all of these individuals and charities have been paid the > proceeds they had due and that your firms are conducting business in a > reputable manner. Sometimes one needs to look in the mirror before > offering unsolicited advice to another. > > In my opinion public apologies are in order. > > > http://www.lvrj.com/news/claudine-williams-memory-deserves-better-than-this-81882842.html > > http://www.lvrj.com/news/you-win-some-and-lose-some-trying-to-help-readers-99743969.html > > http://www.allbusiness.com/government/government-bodies-offices-regional-local/14198362-1.html > > Sincerely, > > Michael Oatman > > > > Count Deiro wrote the following > > I owned and have operated some of the largest auction firms in the > nation since receiving my Certified Auctioneer Institute professional > designation from Indiana University in 1985. Prior to that, I attended > Missouri Auction School and served an apprenticeship at Sothebys in > New York. I became licensed in eight states. I was the Charter > President of the Nevada State Auctioneers Association. My firms have > sold, and I have gaveled down, over a billion dollars in real and > personal property, even some meteorites at this auction last year. I > have sold my auction interests to family members and have been of > counsel to our firms and other companies for the past 15 years. > > So the qualifying remarks having been made…here we go: > > SOME (NOT ALL) AUCTION POLICIES AND TECHNIQUES > > Auctioneers have a legal fiduciary obligation to Consignors. > > They should be knowledgeable of the items they sell and should be able > to pronounce names and make accurate descriptions. > > An auctioneer has to know the retail value of every lot and have > examples to quote to the audience, so that he can open the bid at a > sum that encourages bidders to bid on the money. Opening a $500 item > at $20 is incompetence. Getting an opening bid that is off the > money...say $100 on a $500 item and then asking for $120 instead of > $200 is something you learn not to do the first day at auction school. > > It is critical that auctioneers make the audience believe they know > what they are selling, and what it’s worth, so that bidders will have > confidence to bid what is being asked. Failing to answer legitimate > questions from bidders ruins credibility. > > Never say “I have $200”. Auctioneers don’t have anything. Better to > say “at $200”, or $200 is bid.” > > Taking a bid from an opening bidder, and then acquiring another bid > and then not go immediately back to the opening bidder is insulting to > him. Work the first to bidders dry…then take a competing bid. Saves > time and respects the first bidders. > > All auctioneers should employ trained ring persons. They are > invaluable in encouraging bidders, showing lots, and answering > questions like “where we at?” or “what’s the bid?” > > It is not accepted practice for an auctioneer to bid on his own > behalf, even if he does not own the goods being sold. If he does, he > should never announce the fact, as it tends to discourage bidding and > hurts his consignors and credibility. > > He should have several house numbers to sell a passed lot to, or a lot > that didn’t meet an undisclosed reserve, or a lot he has bought. > > Do not disclose reserves. Do not announce the mail in bids. Give the > mail bidder a number and use it as if in the audience. If you disclose > the mail in bid maximum before selling the lot you are in deep > kimchee. > Phone bids should be handled by staff, with a bidder number and the > auctioneer should not say “on the phone”. Merely acknowledge staf
[meteorite-list] TUCSON AUCTION ETIQUETTE/ AN APOLOGY IN ORDER?
Dear Meteorite List and Count Deiro, I read with interest the posts regarding the 2011 Tucson Auction. I have attended the Blood auction in past years and always enjoyed myself. The Count's post seems to indicate that Michael's auction was conducted poorly. I realize that you have emailed that it was not your intent to refer to the Blood Auction specifically, but you must agree that it seems you are directly insulting Mr. Blood and the girls working the ring. I had a chance to google your Auction Firm and it seems that the Deiro Auctioneer's have defrauded many well respected members of the community. Since you mentioned that you serve as counsel to the firms I assume that all of these individuals and charities have been paid the proceeds they had due and that your firms are conducting business in a reputable manner. Sometimes one needs to look in the mirror before offering unsolicited advice to another. In my opinion public apologies are in order. http://www.lvrj.com/news/claudine-williams-memory-deserves-better-than-this-81882842.html http://www.lvrj.com/news/you-win-some-and-lose-some-trying-to-help-readers-99743969.html http://www.allbusiness.com/government/government-bodies-offices-regional-local/14198362-1.html Sincerely, Michael Oatman Count Deiro wrote the following I owned and have operated some of the largest auction firms in the nation since receiving my Certified Auctioneer Institute professional designation from Indiana University in 1985. Prior to that, I attended Missouri Auction School and served an apprenticeship at Sothebys in New York. I became licensed in eight states. I was the Charter President of the Nevada State Auctioneers Association. My firms have sold, and I have gaveled down, over a billion dollars in real and personal property, even some meteorites at this auction last year. I have sold my auction interests to family members and have been of counsel to our firms and other companies for the past 15 years. So the qualifying remarks having been made…here we go: SOME (NOT ALL) AUCTION POLICIES AND TECHNIQUES Auctioneers have a legal fiduciary obligation to Consignors. They should be knowledgeable of the items they sell and should be able to pronounce names and make accurate descriptions. An auctioneer has to know the retail value of every lot and have examples to quote to the audience, so that he can open the bid at a sum that encourages bidders to bid on the money. Opening a $500 item at $20 is incompetence. Getting an opening bid that is off the money...say $100 on a $500 item and then asking for $120 instead of $200 is something you learn not to do the first day at auction school. It is critical that auctioneers make the audience believe they know what they are selling, and what it’s worth, so that bidders will have confidence to bid what is being asked. Failing to answer legitimate questions from bidders ruins credibility. Never say “I have $200”. Auctioneers don’t have anything. Better to say “at $200”, or $200 is bid.” Taking a bid from an opening bidder, and then acquiring another bid and then not go immediately back to the opening bidder is insulting to him. Work the first to bidders dry…then take a competing bid. Saves time and respects the first bidders. All auctioneers should employ trained ring persons. They are invaluable in encouraging bidders, showing lots, and answering questions like “where we at?” or “what’s the bid?” It is not accepted practice for an auctioneer to bid on his own behalf, even if he does not own the goods being sold. If he does, he should never announce the fact, as it tends to discourage bidding and hurts his consignors and credibility. He should have several house numbers to sell a passed lot to, or a lot that didn’t meet an undisclosed reserve, or a lot he has bought. Do not disclose reserves. Do not announce the mail in bids. Give the mail bidder a number and use it as if in the audience. If you disclose the mail in bid maximum before selling the lot you are in deep kimchee. Phone bids should be handled by staff, with a bidder number and the auctioneer should not say “on the phone”. Merely acknowledge staff’s raised hand. You sell to a number…not a person. As a general rule do not identify bidders by calling out their name. It can do no good and may stop a bid because of a personal issue. Bid calling is an art form. One should develop a pleasing appearance and voice. Use rhythm chants on small amounts and walking chants on the big numbers. The audience gets comfortable in following you and entertained and the sale moves quickly. Start on time and be prepared. Inform the audience of the order of sale and the terms and conditions before calling for the first lot.Introduce your staff and mention who to see for check out and pick up. Arrange lots to develop and keep interest and drama. Don’t bunch smalls one after the other…bidders will get bored and not bid on these items hurting the consignor. Scatter smalls throug
Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery Box ~ Revealed!!
Thanks Greg! Wow... - Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe" To: "Richard Montgomery" ; "'Meteorite-list List'" Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 4:27 PM Subject: Mystery Box ~ Revealed!! Hello Richard M. and List, Richard M. inquired: "I still haven't heard what was in the Mystery box. Write back!" The Tucson Show and Michael Blood Auction was a lot of fun... and MANY great deals were had by the lucky high bidders, including the winner of my "Mystery Box" benefitting the IMCA. Now that the auction is in the history books, here were the seven items: 1) NWA 2798 - L3.2 - 7.72g 2) NWA 3143 - Diogenite - 5.4g 3) NWA 3161 - LL3.7 - 11.2g 4) NWA 4446 - CV3 - 11.5g 5) NWA 4882 - Brachinite - 7.7g 6) NWA 4930 - Martian Shergottite - .446g 7) NWA 5480 - Olivine Diogenite - 15.3g It was fun to hear bids going higher and higher as the items were revealed after the hammer went down. I'll venture to say the winning bidder was VERY happy with his win!! ;-) Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault -Original Message- From: Richard Montgomery Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 11:19 PM To: 'Meteorite-list List' Subject: [meteorite-list] the auction Hello List, Richard Montgomery here (goldierocks)after the thin section of 5400 went for pennies (well, dollars, but relatively few) I lost the feed and caught some way-over-due sleep (not as much as Bernd may have needed)...yet, I still haven't heard what was in the Mystery box. Write back! Thanks __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mystery Box ~ Revealed!!
Hello Richard M. and List, Richard M. inquired: "I still haven't heard what was in the Mystery box. Write back!" The Tucson Show and Michael Blood Auction was a lot of fun... and MANY great deals were had by the lucky high bidders, including the winner of my "Mystery Box" benefitting the IMCA. Now that the auction is in the history books, here were the seven items: 1) NWA 2798 - L3.2 - 7.72g 2) NWA 3143 - Diogenite - 5.4g 3) NWA 3161 - LL3.7 - 11.2g 4) NWA 4446 - CV3 - 11.5g 5) NWA 4882 - Brachinite - 7.7g 6) NWA 4930 - Martian Shergottite - .446g 7) NWA 5480 - Olivine Diogenite - 15.3g It was fun to hear bids going higher and higher as the items were revealed after the hammer went down. I'll venture to say the winning bidder was VERY happy with his win!! ;-) Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault -Original Message- From: Richard Montgomery Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 11:19 PM To: 'Meteorite-list List' Subject: [meteorite-list] the auction Hello List, Richard Montgomery here (goldierocks)after the thin section of 5400 went for pennies (well, dollars, but relatively few) I lost the feed and caught some way-over-due sleep (not as much as Bernd may have needed)...yet, I still haven't heard what was in the Mystery box. Write back! Thanks __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson adios
A long while ago, before I had a clue who Dr. Ted Bunch was, I was given his name and contacted him with a question about a rock whose interior I thought (at the time) resembled LA001 and "would he be interested in seeing it?" "Sure." Of course I sent it off, and being a newbe I had huge hopes, and of course it was terrestrial...but the great part was that TB gave it attention, and I am honored. (I since know with whom I was corresponding...thanks Dr. Ted for looking; you have my utmost respect.) I never did get a reply from a subsequent "joke" email I sent him asking if he'd ever seen opal-like-florescing in a meteorite...a testament to why serious meteoriticist scientist shouldn't be bothered with trivia [sorry Ted:)]... Please, no clones. One is plenty Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: "Ted Bunch" To: "Darryl Pitt" ; "Steve Dunklee" Cc: Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson adios Thanks guys - I love rocks and will look at anything that is outside of anyone's pants. Watch it Darryl, a cloning procedure is underway and a TB clone may come and live with you all! Ted On 2/7/11 10:29 AM, "Darryl Pitt" wrote: friendly? could there betwo ted bunches out there?!! two steve arnoldsnow two ted bunches?! gary, i second carl's sentiment below. you are indeed a charming, lovely fellow who brightened my days as well.* all best / darryl *as does the tbear ;-) On Feb 7, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Steve Dunklee wrote: IMHO Ted Bunch is always friendly. If you ask him an honest question he will go out of his way to give you an answere along with references. He has so little time I think it kind of pisses him off if you waste it. Worse thing you can ask him is "look at my rock" he must get hundreds of look at my rock questions a month. If you ask him about a type of rock and where to learn more he will go out of his way to help you learn. In my opinion thats friendly! Cheers Steve Dunklee On Mon Feb 7th, 2011 11:16 AM EST cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: Gary, It is you that brightened ALL of our days. Just yesterday a few of us were talking about how you fill every room you enter with such positive energy and joy. . It was GREAT to see you and look forward to getting more of your positive energy in the future. You and many others ( too many to list) helped make this my favorite show of all time. Every body was SUPER. Even Ted Bunch was friendly! Ha Ha. That's how good a show this is. (still a week to go). Aloha, Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Gary Fujihara wrote: While enjoying the ambience of LAX, I am reflecting on the great times I had again this year in Tucson. Great friends, great food, great drink, great rocks, great googlymoogly! Mahalo nui loa to all my brothers and sisters who have opened their hearts to this simple island boy with unbridled aloha. Till next year (and possibly Ensisheim and Denver), a hui hou! Sent from Gary's iPhone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson adios
OMG. Too funny. -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Ted Bunch wrote: > Thanks guys - I love rocks and will look at anything that is outside of > anyone's pants. > > Watch it Darryl, a cloning procedure is underway and a TB clone may come and > live with you all! > > Ted > > > On 2/7/11 10:29 AM, "Darryl Pitt" wrote: > > > > > > > friendly? > > > > could there betwo ted bunches out there?!! two steve arnoldsnow two > > ted bunches?! > > > > gary, i second carl's sentiment below. you are indeed a charming, lovely > > fellow who brightened my days as well.* > > > > all best / darryl > > > > > > *as does the tbear ;-) > > > > > > > > On Feb 7, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Steve Dunklee wrote: > > > >> IMHO Ted Bunch is always friendly. If you ask him an honest question he > >> will > >> go out of his way to give you an answere along with references. He has so > >> little time I think it kind of pisses him off if you waste it. Worse thing > >> you can ask him is "look at my rock" he must get hundreds of look at my > >> rock > >> questions a month. If you ask him about a type of rock and where to learn > >> more he will go out of his way to help you learn. In my opinion thats > >> friendly! Cheers Steve Dunklee > >> > >> On Mon Feb 7th, 2011 11:16 AM EST cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: > >> > >>> Gary, > >>> It is you that brightened ALL of our days. Just yesterday a few of us > >>> were > >>> talking about how you fill every room you enter with such positive energy > >>> and joy. . > >>> It was GREAT to see you and look forward to getting more of your positive > >>> energy in the future. > >>> You and many others ( too many to list) helped make this my favorite show > >>> of all time. Every body was SUPER. > >>> Even Ted Bunch was friendly! Ha Ha. That's how good a show this is. > >>> (still a > >>> week to go). > >>> Aloha, > >>> Carl > >>> -- > >>> Carl or Debbie Esparza > >>> Meteoritemax > >>> > >>> > >>> Gary Fujihara wrote: > While enjoying the ambience of LAX, I am reflecting on the great times I > had again this year in Tucson. Great friends, great food, great drink, > great rocks, great googlymoogly! > > Mahalo nui loa to all my brothers and sisters who have opened their > hearts > to this simple island boy with unbridled aloha. Till next year (and > possibly Ensisheim and Denver), a hui hou! > > Sent from Gary's iPhone > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>> __ > >>> Visit the Archives at > >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > >>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> __ > >> Visit the Archives at > >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > >> Meteorite-list mailing list > >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson adios
Dr Ted Bunch has done a bunch of stuff for meteorics and geology. Primitive achondrites? Not so primative. Chondrules not so contrite. Irons with an irony. I made a bitch fit a while back about the "aging" of meteoric material. Dr Bunch may agree in some aspects that current aging is flawed. As well as classifications. But until we get another method we have what we have. Cheers Steve Dunklee On Mon Feb 7th, 2011 12:58 PM EST Dark Matter wrote: >Aren't there now also two posters with the name Paul Harris? > >Goodness knows there are enough Mikes, Michaels, and Martins. > > >-Martin > >On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Darryl Pitt wrote: > >> >> >> friendly? >> >> could there betwo ted bunches out there?!! two steve arnoldsnow >> two ted bunches?! >> >> gary, i second carl's sentiment below. you are indeed a charming, lovely >> fellow who brightened my days as well.* >> >> all best / darryl >> >> >> *as does the tbear ;-) >> >> >> >> On Feb 7, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Steve Dunklee wrote: >> >> > IMHO Ted Bunch is always friendly. If you ask him an honest question he >> will go out of his way to give you an answere along with references. He has >> so little time I think it kind of pisses him off if you waste it. Worse >> thing you can ask him is "look at my rock" he must get hundreds of look at >> my rock questions a month. If you ask him about a type of rock and where to >> learn more he will go out of his way to help you learn. In my opinion thats >> friendly! Cheers Steve Dunklee >> > >> > On Mon Feb 7th, 2011 11:16 AM EST cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: >> > >> >> Gary, >> >> It is you that brightened ALL of our days. Just yesterday a few of us >> were talking about how you fill every room you enter with such positive >> energy and joy. . >> >> It was GREAT to see you and look forward to getting more of your >> positive energy in the future. >> >> You and many others ( too many to list) helped make this my favorite >> show of all time. Every body was SUPER. >> >> Even Ted Bunch was friendly! Ha Ha. That's how good a show this is. >> (still a week to go). >> >> Aloha, >> >> Carl >> >> -- >> >> Carl or Debbie Esparza >> >> Meteoritemax >> >> >> >> >> >> Gary Fujihara wrote: >> >>> While enjoying the ambience of LAX, I am reflecting on the great times >> I had again this year in Tucson. Great friends, great food, great drink, >> great rocks, great googlymoogly! >> >>> >> >>> Mahalo nui loa to all my brothers and sisters who have opened their >> hearts to this simple island boy with unbridled aloha. Till next year (and >> possibly Ensisheim and Denver), a hui hou! >> >>> >> >>> Sent from Gary's iPhone >> >>> __ >> >>> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >> >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> __ >> >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > __ >> > Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> > Meteorite-list mailing list >> > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson adios
Thanks guys - I love rocks and will look at anything that is outside of anyone's pants. Watch it Darryl, a cloning procedure is underway and a TB clone may come and live with you all! Ted On 2/7/11 10:29 AM, "Darryl Pitt" wrote: > > > friendly? > > could there betwo ted bunches out there?!! two steve arnoldsnow two > ted bunches?! > > gary, i second carl's sentiment below. you are indeed a charming, lovely > fellow who brightened my days as well.* > > all best / darryl > > > *as does the tbear ;-) > > > > On Feb 7, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Steve Dunklee wrote: > >> IMHO Ted Bunch is always friendly. If you ask him an honest question he will >> go out of his way to give you an answere along with references. He has so >> little time I think it kind of pisses him off if you waste it. Worse thing >> you can ask him is "look at my rock" he must get hundreds of look at my rock >> questions a month. If you ask him about a type of rock and where to learn >> more he will go out of his way to help you learn. In my opinion thats >> friendly! Cheers Steve Dunklee >> >> On Mon Feb 7th, 2011 11:16 AM EST cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: >> >>> Gary, >>> It is you that brightened ALL of our days. Just yesterday a few of us were >>> talking about how you fill every room you enter with such positive energy >>> and joy. . >>> It was GREAT to see you and look forward to getting more of your positive >>> energy in the future. >>> You and many others ( too many to list) helped make this my favorite show >>> of all time. Every body was SUPER. >>> Even Ted Bunch was friendly! Ha Ha. That's how good a show this is. (still a >>> week to go). >>> Aloha, >>> Carl >>> -- >>> Carl or Debbie Esparza >>> Meteoritemax >>> >>> >>> Gary Fujihara wrote: While enjoying the ambience of LAX, I am reflecting on the great times I had again this year in Tucson. Great friends, great food, great drink, great rocks, great googlymoogly! Mahalo nui loa to all my brothers and sisters who have opened their hearts to this simple island boy with unbridled aloha. Till next year (and possibly Ensisheim and Denver), a hui hou! Sent from Gary's iPhone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> __ >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tuscon auction question
Did the Meteorite Collecting magazine extras show up? Ron Hartman - Original Message - From: "Steve Witt" To: "Don Edwards" ; ; ; Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tuscon auction question Greetings List, I must concur with Ryan. (Iwas not there, but watched the live feed) There were several occasions where it was announced that the current bid was the maximum of an absentee bid. Respectfully, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Sun, 2/6/11, fallingfus...@wi.rr.com wrote: From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tuscon auction question To: "Don Edwards" , meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 5:42 PM That is incorrect. There were several occasions where the max. absentee was announced as live floor bidders were actively bidding. Ryan Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Don Edwards Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 15:34:28 To: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tuscon auction question I was there and as I heard it, absentee MAX bids were NOT announced in advance but were treated as regular bids. Sometimes it was said that the current bid was an absentee bid but that was the extent of the information. All winning bidders were announced on each auction (by bidder number, never by name) so were not identified enless we were watching who was holding up the bidder cards as the bids were made. I think there may have been some problems last year (not certain, but ...) however this year it is my impression that absentee bids were treated as regular bids. At most, it would have been said that the current bid was absentee but the next bid would win 'in house.' Again, I do NOT remember any absentee MAX bids being given out early. There were a couple of cases where absentee entry bids were announced as in "I have an absentee beginning bid of $$$, so will anyone bid ?" Don Edwards Houston, TX IMCA 6527 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AUCTION POLICIES
There is more to the story. The bidding was moving along at $25 increments (or was it 50, which it should have been at that price level) and I had a bid in at 850. Then, in comes a bid at 860. My immediate reaction was WTF - where did this $10 increment come from? So, I entered a protest bid of 861. That caused a lot of hubbub and, when it died down, I informed the block that my real bid was on the next **proper** increment. Somehow that got me to $900 and the bidding ended. There were some irregularities with increments on Saturday night. There were auctions that the block was moving at $25 or $50 when the current bid was $100. However, it was clear that the item was going to move up quickly, so no harm, no foul. Paul Swartz > I attended last night's sale online and bid through cell phone to the room. I > opened at $500 without the block prompting and bid up to $860.00 for the > "Meteorite Men" package solely to benefit IMCA. I did the same thing last > year on the IMCA lot. This year I saw the lot knocked down to the only other > bidder for a dollar more than my bid. (Count Deiro) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson adios
friendly? could there betwo ted bunches out there?!! two steve arnoldsnow two ted bunches?! gary, i second carl's sentiment below. you are indeed a charming, lovely fellow who brightened my days as well.* all best / darryl *as does the tbear ;-) On Feb 7, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Steve Dunklee wrote: > IMHO Ted Bunch is always friendly. If you ask him an honest question he will > go out of his way to give you an answere along with references. He has so > little time I think it kind of pisses him off if you waste it. Worse thing > you can ask him is "look at my rock" he must get hundreds of look at my rock > questions a month. If you ask him about a type of rock and where to learn > more he will go out of his way to help you learn. In my opinion thats > friendly! Cheers Steve Dunklee > > On Mon Feb 7th, 2011 11:16 AM EST cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: > >> Gary, >> It is you that brightened ALL of our days. Just yesterday a few of us were >> talking about how you fill every room you enter with such positive energy >> and joy. . >> It was GREAT to see you and look forward to getting more of your positive >> energy in the future. >> You and many others ( too many to list) helped make this my favorite show >> of all time. Every body was SUPER. >> Even Ted Bunch was friendly! Ha Ha. That's how good a show this is. (still a >> week to go). >> Aloha, >> Carl >> -- >> Carl or Debbie Esparza >> Meteoritemax >> >> >> Gary Fujihara wrote: >>> While enjoying the ambience of LAX, I am reflecting on the great times I >>> had again this year in Tucson. Great friends, great food, great drink, >>> great rocks, great googlymoogly! >>> >>> Mahalo nui loa to all my brothers and sisters who have opened their hearts >>> to this simple island boy with unbridled aloha. Till next year (and >>> possibly Ensisheim and Denver), a hui hou! >>> >>> Sent from Gary's iPhone >>> __ >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Interesting Night
John and all, Thanks for the kind words, Wendy and I very much enjoyed being there helping to make this happen. A lot of folks seemed to enjoy meeting Hershey (another meteorite dog that thinks she's a cat) as well, so that was good too! Speaking of cats, I do have a meteorite cat! If I leave a meteorite sitting on the table, within 15 minutes she will snatch it and carry if off. I bought a nice little enstatite at the show and it was not on the table for more than 10 minutes when I got home and now it's gone! Won't be the first time I've had to grid search the inside of my house! We really did try to get Geoff to tell us his age and well he would not give it up!! Hats off to Gary and Keith...they were both taking pictures like crazy and as you folks have seen, some really great photos. I think at one time I saw Gary crawling though tables to get that one of a kind shot! That was a bid card in the pocket. Hats off to all the ladies there that helped and who were behind the scenes. They really worked VERY hard at making this happen. I really felt bad for some of the sellers. Man, some of that stuff was just given away. That oil filled picture frame was just awesome. Someone got a killer once in a life time deal therethat's for sure. All I can say there is Ebay, buddy! For those we met, it was an honor and pleasure. Someone mentioned in another thread about "passing it forward". Wendy and I had the great opportunity of spending the weekend with Ruben and got an education of a life time. It will take me 6 months or more for it all to sink in. I thought I knew chondritesman, was I wrong! And, those enstatites...I would have never figured. Got to see a "maybe" be XRF'ed and that was interesting. Can you imagine having that tool 20 years ago? My buddy Jason Snyder got one of his small Franconia Irons (SaW's??) XRF'd and it verified a bunch of nickelthat should end the "train-wreck" naysayers!! John B's talk was interesting and we filmed that. Just went through the video and it's pretty good. Was a pleasure meeting John, what a great guy! His talk was from the heart and at one point I felt his passion and emotion. What an honor meeting him! He too was "passing it forward" this weekend with my buddy, Jason. Wendy found her first meteorite that evening! There were chondrites placed in the cake and after everyone finished singing happy birthday, the cake was cut and shared with all (good cake too). Anyways, Wendy's slice had a nice meteorite in it. I've already windowed it for her and she will keep it forever in her collection. Who says you can't find a meteorite and eat your cake too!! Made some great deals on some meteorites and never did see the whole show. The video stuff took a lot of time and none of us wanted to disappoint. It was history in the making, IMHO. So that just leaves me waiting for next year and looking forward to it! Out of all the rooms I visited, I had two favorites. For display, I give Anne Black's room a number 1 and I give Mike Miller's the number two spot. For educational and historic purposes for which interest me, I give Mike Miller's room a #1. We visited his room a couple of times and he talked about some of his experiences in the field and had a "box of education" on his bed that was a wealth of information for me and where I spend a lot of time hunting. Met Sonny and Georgia and Brix there and had lunch with them. What nice folks! I was just great meeting everyone! My AARP card did absolutely no good anywhere in Tucson. Weather was cool and comfortable. Great time, overloaded with information I need to process over time and it's now time for me to get back to hunting. Kind Regards, Jim Wooddell - Original Message - From: "John.L.Cabassi" To: "'Meteorite List'" Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 9:58 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Interesting Night -Original Message- From: imca-boun...@imcamail.de [mailto:imca-boun...@imcamail.de] On Behalf Of John.L.Cabassi Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:06 PM To: 'Meteorite List'; 'IMCA' Subject: [IMCA] Interesting Night G'Day Everyone Live feeds can be a bitch, but I want to warn you don't pick your nose. Which brings me back to what the hell did Leigh Anne have in her back pocket of her jeans?? Was it her score card for the Packers and Steelers? Who knows, but it was rather impressive. I dismissed the toilet paper on the live feed. Thanks Count Deiro for your update on auctions. Mike G, I feel your sorrow and last but not least, I want to thank Ruben and Jim Wooddell for their excellent efforts to bring us live video on the Meteorite Birthday Bash and the Auctions. And I wish Geoff Notkin and Steve Arnold, no maybe it was Steve Arnold and Geoff Notkin, I need to research the actual times of their births so I can find out who was born first. But a big congratulations to
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson adios
IMHO Ted Bunch is always friendly. If you ask him an honest question he will go out of his way to give you an answere along with references. He has so little time I think it kind of pisses him off if you waste it. Worse thing you can ask him is "look at my rock" he must get hundreds of look at my rock questions a month. If you ask him about a type of rock and where to learn more he will go out of his way to help you learn. In my opinion thats friendly! Cheers Steve Dunklee On Mon Feb 7th, 2011 11:16 AM EST cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: >Gary, >It is you that brightened ALL of our days. Just yesterday a few of us were >talking about how you fill every room you enter with such positive energy and >joy. . >It was GREAT to see you and look forward to getting more of your positive >energy in the future. >You and many others ( too many to list) helped make this my favorite show of >all time. Every body was SUPER. >Even Ted Bunch was friendly! Ha Ha. That's how good a show this is. (still a >week to go). >Aloha, >Carl >-- >Carl or Debbie Esparza >Meteoritemax > > > Gary Fujihara wrote: >> While enjoying the ambience of LAX, I am reflecting on the great times I had >> again this year in Tucson. Great friends, great food, great drink, great >> rocks, great googlymoogly! >> >> Mahalo nui loa to all my brothers and sisters who have opened their hearts >> to this simple island boy with unbridled aloha. Till next year (and >> possibly Ensisheim and Denver), a hui hou! >> >> Sent from Gary's iPhone >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson adios
Gary, It is you that brightened ALL of our days. Just yesterday a few of us were talking about how you fill every room you enter with such positive energy and joy. . It was GREAT to see you and look forward to getting more of your positive energy in the future. You and many others ( too many to list) helped make this my favorite show of all time. Every body was SUPER. Even Ted Bunch was friendly! Ha Ha. That's how good a show this is. (still a week to go). Aloha, Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Gary Fujihara wrote: > While enjoying the ambience of LAX, I am reflecting on the great times I had > again this year in Tucson. Great friends, great food, great drink, great > rocks, great googlymoogly! > > Mahalo nui loa to all my brothers and sisters who have opened their hearts to > this simple island boy with unbridled aloha. Till next year (and possibly > Ensisheim and Denver), a hui hou! > > Sent from Gary's iPhone > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson adios
While enjoying the ambience of LAX, I am reflecting on the great times I had again this year in Tucson. Great friends, great food, great drink, great rocks, great googlymoogly! Mahalo nui loa to all my brothers and sisters who have opened their hearts to this simple island boy with unbridled aloha. Till next year (and possibly Ensisheim and Denver), a hui hou! Sent from Gary's iPhone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson Photos
Hello List Here are few more photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/arizonaviking/sets/72157625994785728/show/ Enjoy Arizona Keith __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
