Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks for the OK Fireball well-wishes
Guido, You gave me the best laugh with the story of the loud horn that makes the animals feel like they just ate Ex-Lax !!! ;-) Hysterical! All the best, thanks for the stories. Brian - Count Deiro countdeiro at earthlink.net Sun Mar 27 01:30:17 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Thanks for the OK Fireball well-wishes Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] I forgot to mention the field expedient method of deterring ill tempered and territorial horses. Next time guys...somebody brandish a coiled rope. Works like a charm. Also, while were at it...For other livestock I carry one of those small air horns. Makes cattle, sheep, goats, hogs and most dogs run away and poop while their doing it. Guido __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Gathering in Tucson Saturday!!! (4/2)
Hey all, Saturday April 2nd the Tucson Meteorite Club will be gathering at the Skybar around noonish. Feel free to join us if you will be in the Tucson area. Last month we had some excellent meteorites and gear for show tell - it seemed like everyone had a great time!! There are many good restaurants in the area for before/after the gathering, or you can order Brooklyn Pizza next door and have it delivered to the Sky Bar. Think about it fun, fellowship, food y ¡¡¡METEORITOS!!! http://www.skybartucson.com/ 536 N. 4th Avenue Ph. 622-4300 Mark B. Vail, AZ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass
Bill, Was wondering if you any other detail of this main mass. Finder? Location? Date of find? etc. thanx, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Sat, 3/26/11, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, March 26, 2011, 9:44 PM Thanks to Mark Hammergren, we have images of the Park Forest main mass. At least, the largest one I know of. 5260 grams. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmainedit.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmmedit.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmainedit2.jpg Bill __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks for the OK Fireball well-wishes
Linton, Just remember, you don't have to out run the bear, just the guy you're with.;) Best, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Sun, 3/27/11, Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks for the OK Fireball well-wishes To: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 12:26 AM Cool. Thanks Guido. I wonder if that would work with grizzlies. In my experience, they prefer beefy hiking partners. Oh well... such is life. Linton - Original Message - From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net To: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net; Robert Woolard meteoritefin...@yahoo.com; Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks for the OK Fireball well-wishes I once had horses pasturing next to where I played ball with my friends. They were mean kickers and biters. Rank as the cowboys call them. Well...any way...this made recovering a baseball a serious matter. I found out that horses are suckers for both carrots and apples. Chuck them either and they would follow me around like dogs. I was working on getting them to retrieve when we moved to the city. Guido -Original Message- From: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net Sent: Mar 26, 2011 9:52 PM To: Robert Woolard meteoritefin...@yahoo.com, Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks for the OK Fireball well-wishes they all 3 came charging over toward us. They were rearing their heads up and down, running quickly right up next to us off-and-on again and again, and even kicking up their hind legs very close to us. Great story, Robert. Grizzly bears do that charge thing, too. 99% of the time, they're just bluffing. Just casually look off to the side. ;^) What could possibly go wrong? Linton - Original Message - From: Robert Woolard meteoritefin...@yahoo.com To: Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 8:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Thanks for the OK Fireball well-wishes __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 27, 2011
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Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks for the OK Fireball well-wishes
Greetings all. I was the guy who caught the event on the Sandia Camera. I see a lot of optical and radar analysis, and excitement has followed. Good luck on the hunt. If you find anything we're very interested in what and where it was found so we can validate some of the methods. Would love to catch you at dinner some evening, if able? James Beauchamp --- On Sun, 3/27/11, Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks for the OK Fireball well-wishes To: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net, Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 3:45 AM Linton, Just remember, you don't have to out run the bear, just the guy you're with.;) Best, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Sun, 3/27/11, Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks for the OK Fireball well-wishes To: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 12:26 AM Cool. Thanks Guido. I wonder if that would work with grizzlies. In my experience, they prefer beefy hiking partners. Oh well... such is life. Linton - Original Message - From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net To: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net; Robert Woolard meteoritefin...@yahoo.com; Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks for the OK Fireball well-wishes I once had horses pasturing next to where I played ball with my friends. They were mean kickers and biters. Rank as the cowboys call them. Well...any way...this made recovering a baseball a serious matter. I found out that horses are suckers for both carrots and apples. Chuck them either and they would follow me around like dogs. I was working on getting them to retrieve when we moved to the city. Guido -Original Message- From: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net Sent: Mar 26, 2011 9:52 PM To: Robert Woolard meteoritefin...@yahoo.com, Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks for the OK Fireball well-wishes they all 3 came charging over toward us. They were rearing their heads up and down, running quickly right up next to us off-and-on again and again, and even kicking up their hind legs very close to us. Great story, Robert. Grizzly bears do that charge thing, too. 99% of the time, they're just bluffing. Just casually look off to the side. ;^) What could possibly go wrong? Linton - Original Message - From: Robert Woolard meteoritefin...@yahoo.com To: Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 8:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Thanks for the OK Fireball well-wishes __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass
Just wondering why the Park Forest Main mass looks old and weathered in the photograph? Was it found much later. I was expecting to see fresh crust and matrix. I would never have guessed it was Park Forest. Graham, UK On 27 March 2011 09:38, Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com wrote: Bill, Was wondering if you any other detail of this main mass. Finder? Location? Date of find? etc. thanx, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Sat, 3/26/11, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, March 26, 2011, 9:44 PM Thanks to Mark Hammergren, we have images of the Park Forest main mass. At least, the largest one I know of. 5260 grams. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmainedit.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmmedit.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmainedit2.jpg Bill __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: ebay auctions ending today
Dear List, I have 26 auctions on ebay ending today, Sunday March 27th, starting at 01:00 pm PDT. Irons, Pallasites, Chondrites, planetary and historical specimens and more are up for auction. There could be something for almost everybody. If you are interested please take a look here: http://stores.ebay.com/mos-meteorites Thank you everyone for looking and good luck to anyone bidding. Please let me know if you have any questions. Good Luck to the hunters out in OK. Hope you guys find something. Best Regards, Moritz Karl mo's meteorites Germany __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: some great collection pieces
Dear list members, I have listed on ebay some great collectors pieces. If someone is interested in a piece please contact me off list. Outside of ebay, I can offer better prices and perhaps we can also make a deal by half buy and half exchange. The last available Full slice of carbonaceous chondrite CM2 - NWA 5797 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=370494427563ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT --- The great TAZA NWA 859 full slice with kamazite bundles http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230591071035ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT --- Large New Mexico OCATE full slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=370488445673ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT --- The nice new Texas iron Ataxite GRIFFITH with troilite http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230591401492ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT --- Two large Full slices (from only 7) of CV3 - NWA 6207 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=370404846753ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=370411881350ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT --- A large full slice of the NWA 6145 Rumurutiite R5 / Weathering W0 !! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230495768564ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT --- A large polished half individual of NWA 5549 - silicated iron http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230446507163ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT --- A real beauty of BUZZARD COULEE individual http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230582188453ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT --- A large polished full slice of the new 42% nickel iron NWA 6259 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=370476523623ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT --- Nice slice from the rare iron Fall!! NINGBO http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230599090433ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT --- Sikhote Alin best Individual 1082g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=370494766526ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT --- A large 610g BOXHOLE individual + 4 lables http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=370496336302ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT --- A nice found condition SEYMCHAN individual http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230601553068ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT --- and a great regmaglypted individual of GLORIETA MOUNTAIN http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230601555110ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT and all my other offers you can see under this link: http://stores.ebay.com/Mirko-Graul-Meteorite?_trksid=p4340.l2563 a nice sunday to all and best regards, Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass
Hi Graham, Bill, and List, That was my initial reaction as well. I have never previously seen the photos that Bill posted, and I was expecting velvety black crust as well. This stone looks like it has seen better days. I'd be curious to hear more about the circumstances of it - where it was found, when, etc. Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/27/11, e-mail ensoramanda ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote: Just wondering why the Park Forest Main mass looks old and weathered in the photograph? Was it found much later. I was expecting to see fresh crust and matrix. I would never have guessed it was Park Forest. Graham, UK On 27 March 2011 09:38, Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com wrote: Bill, Was wondering if you any other detail of this main mass. Finder? Location? Date of find? etc. thanx, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Sat, 3/26/11, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, March 26, 2011, 9:44 PM Thanks to Mark Hammergren, we have images of the Park Forest main mass. At least, the largest one I know of. 5260 grams. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmainedit.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmmedit.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmainedit2.jpg Bill __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass
Was this the one the police extorted back from Mike Farmer under threat of arrest and then used a Brillo-pad on to clean it up? Elton - Original Message From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com To: e-mail ensoramanda ensorama...@ntlworld.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, March 27, 2011 10:04:07 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass Hi Graham, Bill, and List, That was my initial reaction as well. I have never previously seen the photos that Bill posted, and I was expecting velvety black crust as well. This stone looks like it has seen better days. I'd be curious to hear more about the circumstances of it - where it was found, when, etc. Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/27/11, e-mail ensoramanda ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote: Just wondering why the Park Forest Main mass looks old and weathered in the photograph? Was it found much later. I was expecting to see fresh crust and matrix. I would never have guessed it was Park Forest. Graham, UK On 27 March 2011 09:38, Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com wrote: Bill, Was wondering if you any other detail of this main mass. Finder? Location? Date of find? etc. thanx, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Sat, 3/26/11, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, March 26, 2011, 9:44 PM Thanks to Mark Hammergren, we have images of the Park Forest main mass. At least, the largest one I know of. 5260 grams. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmainedit.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmmedit.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmainedit2.jpg Bill __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 3 freebies/ 1986 bob haag catalog (ad)
Good morning list from OOOLLL chicago.25 degrees.I have 3 freebies to givaway.2 are my possible dioginite slices.19.8 and 17.6 grams.I also have an 11.8 gram endcut fragment of nwa xxx.It has some very light orientation.I also have a 1986 BOB HAAG meteorite catalog forsale.It is pristine condition and ready to go.$40 with free shipping.Please USA only on these 4 items.Have a great day all. Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER
Hello Listers, I would like to thank everyone that sent in their answers and I enjoyed the feedback on this POP QUIZ question. I would like to congratulate Andre b being the 10th Lister to email the correct answer. Andre will receive a free 115mg Saratov meteorite fragment which fell on Sept. 6th, 1918 in Russia. Question True or False The absorption and reemission of electromagnetic radiation on small size asteroids in the range of 1-10km can have a tiny force that leads to large, long-term effects in the orbits of the small bodies? Answer True If you would like to learn more about this process which in the meteoritcal science community is know as the Yarkovsky effect , discovered by a Russian civil engineer Ivan Osipovich Yarkovsky (1844–1902) click on these links below. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/releases/2003/163.cfm http://impact.arc.nasa.gov/news_detail.cfm?ID=132 http://www.boulder.swri.edu/~davidn/papers/kyarko.pdf Detection of the Yarkovsky effect for main-belt asteroids by David Nesvorný ∗, William F. Bottke Abstract The Yarkovsky effect, a non-gravitational acceleration produced by the anisotropic emission of thermal energy (Öpik, 1951, Proc. Roy. Irish Acad. 54, 165–199), plays an important role in the dynamical evolution of asteroids. Current theoretical models of the Yarkovsky effect, however, rely on a number of poorly known parameters that can only approximate how real asteroids respond to solar heating. To improve this situation, we investigated whether the orbital distribution of the Karin cluster, a 5.8 ± 0.2 Myr old S-type asteroid family (Nesvorný et al., 2002a, Nature 417, 720–722), could be used to determine the rate at which multikilometer main-belt asteroids spread in semimajor axis due to the Yarkovsky effect. Our results indicate that the orbital histories of individual Karin cluster members bear clear signatures of having drifted in semimajor axis drift since their formation. Using numerical methods, we determined the drift speed of ≈ 70 Karin cluster members (asteroids 1–6 km in diameter). This is the first time the speed that main-belt asteroids evolve in the semimajor axis due to the non-gravitational effects have been measured. The magnitude of measured speeds is similar to those predicted by theoretical models of the Yarkovsky force. Taken together, our results represent the first direct detection of the Yarkovsky effect for main-belt asteroids, and they validate in significant ways the asteroid thermal models described in the recent literature (e.g., Vokrouhlický, 1999, Astron. Astrophys. 344, 362–366). By comparing the measured drift speeds to those calculated from theoretical models of the Yarkovsky effect, we determined that Karin cluster members do not have surface thermal conductivities K in excess of ∼ 0.1Wm−1 K−1. Instead, their derived K values are consistent with the presence of regolith over most/all of their ∼ 5.8 Myr lifetimes. This low-conductive regolith layer may be thin because the penetration depth of the diurnal thermal wave is 5 cm. The regolith material may have been deposited in the immediate aftermath of the Karin cluster formation event or was produced over time by impacts. Our method also allows us to estimate spin obliquity values for Karin cluster members. We find that members with diameters 3.5-km are predominantly retrograde rotators, while those 3.5-km have obliquities more equally distributed between 0◦ and 180◦. These data may be used to study the spin states of asteroids produced by catastrophic disruption events. Interestingly, we find that a few Karin members have drifted further than predicted by our standard Yarkovsky model. We hypothesize these objects may have: (i) faster drift speeds than predicted by theoretical models, (ii) high albedos ( 0.3), and/or (iii) densities 2 gcm−3. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass
The Olympia Fields gentleman whose lawn this stone fell into returned to town more than a week after the fall. When he got back, he saw a hole in his front yard, along with a whole bunch of stone chips in his driveway. He assumed the city parks department, which was maintaining a park nearby, had left this mess on his property. So he swept up and threw away the stone chips (yes, this is painful, I know!), and called the city to come repair his lawn. The workers dug up the hole, found the meteorite, and recognized it for what it was. Then, amazingly enough, they knocked on his door, gave it back to him, told him they thought it was a meteorite and likely worth a lot of money, and went on their way. He called me a little while after that, said he thought he had a meteorite, and wondered if I could verify that's what it was. I'd received hundreds of such inquiries, with only a few of them proving to be meteorites, so I was doubtful. But when he gave me his address, which was right at the high mass end of the strewnfield, and described the stone, I had a suspicion his rock might be the real thing. When I got a chance to examine it in person, it was unmistakable. Quite rusted from spending two weeks in soggy sod, yes, but a genuine Park Forest meteorite. I took some photos and weighed it, then took him and the stone down to the Field Museum, where their meteorite collections manager (at the time) examined it herself. I walked the gentleman back to his car, advised him that while his meteorite was of significant scientific interest, it was also quite valuable to collectors (museum ethics forbids me from giving specific appraisals). I made sure he understood that since the meteorite fell on his property, he legally owned the meteorite, and that no other public or private organizations had a claim on it. He asked if I could recommend a meteorite dealer, but museum ethics similarly forbid me from recommending a specific dealer. I referred him to IMCA, and also said he could simply Google meteorite dealer. He left, and I never heard any more from him. If someone has subsequently dealt with the owner, and knows more about what happened to the stone, I'd be interested in hearing about it. Best regards, Mark --- On Sun, 3/27/11, Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass To: e-mail ensoramanda ensorama...@ntlworld.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 9:04 AM Hi Graham, Bill, and List, That was my initial reaction as well. I have never previously seen the photos that Bill posted, and I was expecting velvety black crust as well. This stone looks like it has seen better days. I'd be curious to hear more about the circumstances of it - where it was found, when, etc. Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/27/11, e-mail ensoramanda ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote: Just wondering why the Park Forest Main mass looks old and weathered in the photograph? Was it found much later. I was expecting to see fresh crust and matrix. I would never have guessed it was Park Forest. Graham, UK On 27 March 2011 09:38, Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com wrote: Bill, Was wondering if you any other detail of this main mass. Finder? Location? Date of find? etc. thanx, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Sat, 3/26/11, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, March 26, 2011, 9:44 PM Thanks to Mark Hammergren, we have images of the Park Forest main mass. At least, the largest one I know of. 5260 grams. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmainedit.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmmedit.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmainedit2.jpg Bill __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass
Thanks for the reply Mark, An interesting story and explains the rust. I wonder where the main mass of Park Forest resides at this moment then. Would be very interesting to find out if he still has it or did indeed sell it to someoneperhaps someone on this list? Graham On 27 March 2011 18:26, Mark Hammergren mhammerg...@yahoo.com wrote: The Olympia Fields gentleman whose lawn this stone fell into returned to town more than a week after the fall. When he got back, he saw a hole in his front yard, along with a whole bunch of stone chips in his driveway. He assumed the city parks department, which was maintaining a park nearby, had left this mess on his property. So he swept up and threw away the stone chips (yes, this is painful, I know!), and called the city to come repair his lawn. The workers dug up the hole, found the meteorite, and recognized it for what it was. Then, amazingly enough, they knocked on his door, gave it back to him, told him they thought it was a meteorite and likely worth a lot of money, and went on their way. He called me a little while after that, said he thought he had a meteorite, and wondered if I could verify that's what it was. I'd received hundreds of such inquiries, with only a few of them proving to be meteorites, so I was doubtful. But when he gave me his address, which was right at the high mass end of the strewnfield, and described the stone, I had a suspicion his rock might be the real thing. When I got a chance to examine it in person, it was unmistakable. Quite rusted from spending two weeks in soggy sod, yes, but a genuine Park Forest meteorite. I took some photos and weighed it, then took him and the stone down to the Field Museum, where their meteorite collections manager (at the time) examined it herself. I walked the gentleman back to his car, advised him that while his meteorite was of significant scientific interest, it was also quite valuable to collectors (museum ethics forbids me from giving specific appraisals). I made sure he understood that since the meteorite fell on his property, he legally owned the meteorite, and that no other public or private organizations had a claim on it. He asked if I could recommend a meteorite dealer, but museum ethics similarly forbid me from recommending a specific dealer. I referred him to IMCA, and also said he could simply Google meteorite dealer. He left, and I never heard any more from him. If someone has subsequently dealt with the owner, and knows more about what happened to the stone, I'd be interested in hearing about it. Best regards, Mark --- On Sun, 3/27/11, Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass To: e-mail ensoramanda ensorama...@ntlworld.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 9:04 AM Hi Graham, Bill, and List, That was my initial reaction as well. I have never previously seen the photos that Bill posted, and I was expecting velvety black crust as well. This stone looks like it has seen better days. I'd be curious to hear more about the circumstances of it - where it was found, when, etc. Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/27/11, e-mail ensoramanda ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote: Just wondering why the Park Forest Main mass looks old and weathered in the photograph? Was it found much later. I was expecting to see fresh crust and matrix. I would never have guessed it was Park Forest. Graham, UK On 27 March 2011 09:38, Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com wrote: Bill, Was wondering if you any other detail of this main mass. Finder? Location? Date of find? etc. thanx, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Sat, 3/26/11, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, March 26, 2011, 9:44 PM Thanks to Mark Hammergren, we have images of the Park Forest main mass. At least, the largest one I know of. 5260 grams. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmainedit.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmmedit.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmainedit2.jpg Bill __ Visit the Archives at
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass
Hi Mark and List, That is a great story to read and it is the first time I have ever heard any of it. The outside appearance of the stone is a testament to the window of neglect and abuse it suffered before it was recognized and preserved. I wish I could find a rock like that in my yard. I certainly wouldn't sweep up the fragments and discard them! Wow. But, one cannot blame the owner for doing that, because he had no idea that it was a meteorite. So it weighs about 5-kilos and is apparently about the size of a large grapefruit. That is so cool. Since the time of Park Forest, meteorites have received a lot of media attention and have entered into the pop-culture lexicon. The chances of a freshly-fallen meteorite (even an abused one) not being recognized are smaller than in years prior to falls like Buzzard Coulee, Ash Creek, Mifflin, Almahata Sitta, Carancas, and many others) Best regards and thanks for sharing the story, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/27/11, Mark Hammergren mhammerg...@yahoo.com wrote: The Olympia Fields gentleman whose lawn this stone fell into returned to town more than a week after the fall. When he got back, he saw a hole in his front yard, along with a whole bunch of stone chips in his driveway. He assumed the city parks department, which was maintaining a park nearby, had left this mess on his property. So he swept up and threw away the stone chips (yes, this is painful, I know!), and called the city to come repair his lawn. The workers dug up the hole, found the meteorite, and recognized it for what it was. Then, amazingly enough, they knocked on his door, gave it back to him, told him they thought it was a meteorite and likely worth a lot of money, and went on their way. He called me a little while after that, said he thought he had a meteorite, and wondered if I could verify that's what it was. I'd received hundreds of such inquiries, with only a few of them proving to be meteorites, so I was doubtful. But when he gave me his address, which was right at the high mass end of the strewnfield, and described the stone, I had a suspicion his rock might be the real thing. When I got a chance to examine it in person, it was unmistakable. Quite rusted from spending two weeks in soggy sod, yes, but a genuine Park Forest meteorite. I took some photos and weighed it, then took him and the stone down to the Field Museum, where their meteorite collections manager (at the time) examined it herself. I walked the gentleman back to his car, advised him that while his meteorite was of significant scientific interest, it was also quite valuable to collectors (museum ethics forbids me from giving specific appraisals). I made sure he understood that since the meteorite fell on his property, he legally owned the meteorite, and that no other public or private organizations had a claim on it. He asked if I could recommend a meteorite dealer, but museum ethics similarly forbid me from recommending a specific dealer. I referred him to IMCA, and also said he could simply Google meteorite dealer. He left, and I never heard any more from him. If someone has subsequently dealt with the owner, and knows more about what happened to the stone, I'd be interested in hearing about it. Best regards, Mark --- On Sun, 3/27/11, Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass To: e-mail ensoramanda ensorama...@ntlworld.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 9:04 AM Hi Graham, Bill, and List, That was my initial reaction as well. I have never previously seen the photos that Bill posted, and I was expecting velvety black crust as well. This stone looks like it has seen better days. I'd be curious to hear more about the circumstances of it - where it was found, when, etc. Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Book Wanted: Meteorites by Foote 1912
Dear List, I am seeking an original copy of Meteorites by Foote (1912). Will buy or trade. Please contact me privately if you have one available. Thanks! -- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] More historic falls
Evening all, I've started puling some pages together about the stories of some of our historic falls, including photos and documentary texts. It only has 20 or so entries at the moment, I'll add as I go along. Lots of photos! http://historicfalls.com/ Mark __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] More historic falls
Hi Mark, That is awesome. Good stuff to read and nice eye candy. Keep up the great work. :) Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/27/11, Mark's Meteorites m...@meteorites.cc wrote: Evening all, I've started puling some pages together about the stories of some of our historic falls, including photos and documentary texts. It only has 20 or so entries at the moment, I'll add as I go along. Lots of photos! http://historicfalls.com/ Mark __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Aldsworth, England - 1835 super-scarce historic fall
I have just listed a small fragment of the Aldsworth meteorite on ebay, 7 day auction, starting at $0.99. This historic stone fell in Gloucestershire, England in August 1835. I have not seen a piece available on the web previously. As British falls go, this is about as scarce as it gets! The provenance is great (Natural History Museum, London) so don't miss this chance to add it to your collection. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270726721741 or http://bit.ly/haYA29 Please mail off-list with any questions, Matt. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Book Wanted: Meteorites by Foote 1912
Just gave one away, may have another. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Mar 27, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net wrote: Dear List, I am seeking an original copy of Meteorites by Foote (1912). Will buy or trade. Please contact me privately if you have one available. Thanks! -- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
