Re: [meteorite-list] Red Canyon Lake fall

[Richard Kowalski]

Another neat one...

And there is that butt again.

"Specimens: ASU holds 4.24 g distributed between a complete slice, three thin 
sections and an end piece in a potted butt."


--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081
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[meteorite-list] AD - ebay: 4 Eucrites, 2 Diogenites, the only Pallasite from Oman, a Ureilite, CC's, meteorites from Moon and Mars, ...

[Peter Marmet]

Hello All,

Eucrites, Diogenites and Howardites stem likely from VESTA (an
asteroid that is thought to be a remnant protoplanet with a mean
diameter of about 530 km).

VESTA is at the center of attention now because of NASA's DAWN
Mission! Cosmic ray exposure dating of HEDs (Howardites, Eucrites,
Diogenites) indicates

that impacts have released meteoritic material at least five times in
the last 50 million years.

DAWN will reach VESTA in July 2011 and orbit this rather unknown
object for one year.

On ebay I'm selling now four very nice and interesting Eucrites, two
stunning Diogenites

and several other rare meteorites (a Ureilite, the only Pallasite from
Oman, meteorites from Moon and Mars,

CC's and two historic ones!).

They are ending in about one day. Please have a look:


http://shop.ebay.com/pema9/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=


Thank you,
Peter

Peter Marmet - IMCA #2747
Bern, Switzerland
http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/
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[meteorite-list] New detected meteorite crater?

[m42protosun]

Hi list members.
At position  21°35'42.75"N;  35°10'2.75"E a ring of hills is visible with a 
diameter of 6 miles. It might be an undetected meteorite crater.
m42protosun


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Re: [meteorite-list] New detected meteorite crater?

[karmaka]

Interesting observation!
The circle does look quite regular, indeed.
The question is: Why has no one found it until now?
Has it already been studied and rejected as crater?


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Betreff: [meteorite-list] New detected meteorite crater?

>Hi list members.
>At position 21°35'42.75"N; 35°10'2.75"E a ring of hills is visible with a 
>diameter of 6 miles. It might be an undetected meteorite crater.
>m42protosun
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Re: [meteorite-list] New detected meteorite crater?

[karmaka]

Here are some papers on crater-like structures
in Sudan:

http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1008/1008.3976.pdf
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1008/1008.0500.pdf


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>Hi list members.
>At position 21°35'42.75"N; 35°10'2.75"E a ring of hills is visible with a 
>diameter of 6 miles. It might be an undetected meteorite crater.
>m42protosun
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Re: [meteorite-list] New detected meteorite crater?

[Marco Langbroek]

Hi list members.
At position  21?35'42.75"N;  35?10'2.75"E a ring of hills is visible with a 
diameter of 6 miles. It might be an undetected meteorite crater.
m42protosun


These are igneous (volcanic) intrusive syenite, gabbro and granite structures 
about 230 to 140 million years old. You can actually see several of them as 
circular of elliptic structures in that area. They are roughly distributed on an 
old fault line perpendicular to the Red Sea.


See a.o.:

 Höhndorf et al. (1994), Journal of African Earth Sciences 19, 3-15.
 Vail et al. (1978), Geologische Rundschau 67, 521-530.

- Marco

-
Dr Marco (asteroid 183294) Langbroek
Dutch Meteor Society (DMS)

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[meteorite-list] AD-auctions ending today

[mail]

I have a few auctions ending shortly, including some lunar.
Please have a look at my ebay store here: 
.

Matt

Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
P.O. Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215
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[meteorite-list] meteorites forsale (AD)

[steve arnold]

Hi list and good morning.I have 4 meteorite forsale with free shipping. 1) 
VULCAN,ALBERTA,CANADA. A .903 gram part slice with a rob elliott provenance 
along with a mike bandli card as well $200, 2) 12 gram fragment of HOLBROOK 
with 
crust on 1 side $250, 3) 4.1 gram fragment of NEW ORLEANS $125, and finally a 
41 
gram full slice of MALOTAS,ARGENTINA, $145.00.The last 3 are witness 
falls.Please off list if interested with pics to boot.
 Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! 
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Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine

[MEM]

(NOTE: waste, fraud , and abuse of public funds is a matter of public interest) 
 


Steve,  If you were to ask, I am sure some folks here on the list would "rent" 
you some  meteorites-- Netflix-style-- you can swap out every 2 weeks and save 
all the 

hassle of buying high and selling low.

However I need to ask: are you using your unemployment check again to buy 
meteorites? We both know the  Illinois Department of Labor doesn't look kindly 
on using 

unemployment funds to purchase inventory for  business-activity--and they 
consider buying and selling 

business-activity whether declared or not.  In fact one isn't eligible for 
unemployment if they run their own business, and if it is an unlicensed 
business.  That gets into the fraud arenaagain.

One may not own/operate a "business" while drawing unemployment 
compensation--and...well you already know that don't you? You may not be 
earning 

"wages" but you aren't unemployed, if you are buying and selling.  Some folks 
have 

the  the IDOL Fraud Hotline on speed dial. The messages you post on the 
internet 

are  evidence that you engage in buying and selling during times of 
unemployment.

I don't know the penalty of a conviction on this but is it really worth the 
risk 

and given everything else you say is on your plate do you really want to take 
groceries money to spend $350-600 for something you will eventually sell for 
$70-80 out of desperation.

Elton




- Original Message 
> From: steve arnold 
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 9:04:52 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] tatahouine
> 
> Good morning list.Anyone have any tatahouine available?Say in the 10 to 20 
> gram 
>
>
>
>
>
> range and could give me a good deal?
>  Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! 
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[meteorite-list] Meteoradicts 12 Step Program?

[MEM]

We all have an addiction to them and each must bear their own struggle to keep 
them from possessing us rather than us possessing them. Anyone able to direct 
me 
to a 

12 step program for meteoradicts?

Elton

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[meteorite-list] AD - NEW MARTIAN Nakhlite - rare NOGOYA (CM2) - rare IVUNA (CI1) - MURCHISON with CRUST - NORTON COUNTY

[karmaka]

Hello all

I have some auctions ending on EBAY tomorrow afternoon/evening
(Sunday at around 2.00 pm PST / 5.00 pm EST / 22.00 GMT/ 23.00 CET).

For sale are affordable small fragments of some very rare and scientifically 
important meteorites:

- New MARTIAN Nakhlite - NWA 5790 - extremely rare - (last pieces , ALMOST OUT)
- NOGOYA CM 2 - very rare historic fall (1879) - LAST ONE !
- IVUNA (CI 1) - EXTREMELY RARE ! - Historic Fall - TYPE SPECIMEN of all CI 
carb. chondrites
- MURCHISON (CM2) RARE - with CRUST !
- NORTON COUNTY - Aubrite - VERY RARE Fall - Beautiful fragment

Have a look if you like.

[http://shop.ebay.com/karmaka/m.html]

NEW! Nakhlite - NWA 5790 - EXTREMELY rare MARTIAN Meteorite - virtually 
impossible to get - ALMOST OUT !

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-MARTIAN-Nakhlite-NWA-5790-EXTREMELY-RARE-Meteorite-/320678188326?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa9e8d526

NOGOYA (CM2) - VERY RARE Historic Fall 1879 - Meteorite - LAST ONE !!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/NOGOYA-CM2-VERY-RARE-1879-Historic-Meteorite-LAST-ONE-/320678184490?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa9e8c62a

IVUNA (CI 1) EXTREMELY RARE ! Meteorite - Historic Fall - TYPE SPECIMEN of all 
CI carb. chondrites !!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/IVUNA-CI-1-EXTREMELY-RARE-Meteorite-Historic-Fall-/320678186671?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa9e8ceaf

MURCHISON (CM2) RARE Meteorite with CRUST ! - Fall 1969

http://cgi.ebay.com/MURCHISON-CM2-RARE-Meteorite-CRUST-Fall-1969-/320678181582?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa9e8bace

NORTON COUNTY - Aubrite - VERY RARE Fall - Beautiful fragment - Meteorite

http://cgi.ebay.com/NORTON-COUNTY-Aubrite-VERY-RARE-Fall-Meteorite-/320678182966?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa9e8c036

Thank you !

Have a nice weekend!
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoradicts 12 Step Program?

[karmaka]

Hi Elton,

I don't want to be cured ... they feel sooo goood ;-)

Martin


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Gesendet: 02.04.2011 18:53:49
An: metlist 
Betreff: [meteorite-list] Meteoradicts 12 Step Program?


>We all have an addiction to them and each must bear their own struggle to keep
>them from possessing us rather than us possessing them. Anyone able to direct 
>me
>to a
>
>12 step program for meteoradicts?
>
>Elton
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoradicts 12 Step Program?

[John Lutzon]

I'LL be its' first Enrollee !!!

John
IMCA# 1896


- Original Message - 
From: "MEM" 

To: "metlist" 
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 12:53 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteoradicts 12 Step Program?


We all have an addiction to them and each must bear their own struggle to 
keep
them from possessing us rather than us possessing them. Anyone able to 
direct me

to a

12 step program for meteoradicts?

Elton

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Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine

[Meteorites USA]

Elton, I fail to see how Steve's personal life, or business is any of 
yours. Nor can I see where your borderline libel and inflammatory post 
has any place on this list.


I'm not sure anyone here wishes to read it, and it's an obvious personal 
attack with legal implications. Just because you have something in your 
craw for Steve doesn't mean everyone here on list wants to read or hear 
about it. Your post is highly unprofessional and perhaps illegal unto 
itself. Please take personal and legal matters offlist!


Regards,
Eric



On 4/2/2011 9:52 AM, MEM wrote:

(NOTE: waste, fraud , and abuse of public funds is a matter of public interest)


Steve,  If you were to ask, I am sure some folks here on the list would "rent"
you some  meteorites-- Netflix-style-- you can swap out every 2 weeks and save
all the

hassle of buying high and selling low.

However I need to ask: are you using your unemployment check again to buy
meteorites? We both know the  Illinois Department of Labor doesn't look kindly
on using

unemployment funds to purchase inventory for  business-activity--and they
consider buying and selling

business-activity whether declared or not.  In fact one isn't eligible for
unemployment if they run their own business, and if it is an unlicensed
business.  That gets into the fraud arenaagain.

One may not own/operate a "business" while drawing unemployment
compensation--and...well you already know that don't you? You may not be earning

"wages" but you aren't unemployed, if you are buying and selling.  Some folks
have

the  the IDOL Fraud Hotline on speed dial. The messages you post on the internet

are  evidence that you engage in buying and selling during times of
unemployment.

I don't know the penalty of a conviction on this but is it really worth the risk

and given everything else you say is on your plate do you really want to take
groceries money to spend $350-600 for something you will eventually sell for
$70-80 out of desperation.

Elton




- Original Message 
   

From: steve arnold
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 9:04:52 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] tatahouine

Good morning list.Anyone have any tatahouine available?Say in the 10 to 20 gram





range and could give me a good deal?
  Steve R.Arnold, Chicago!
 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements

[cdtucson]

Alan,
Does this process only occur in meteorites or is black shock-injected olivine 
found in Earth rocks as well?
Thanks,
Carl
--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax


 Alan Rubin  wrote: 
> There are a lot of so-called black chondrites, including Farmington.  These 
> are due to small particles of metal and sulfide having been shock-injected 
> into the mafic silicates, in a process that I have called silicate darkening 
> and others have called shock blackening.
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> Alan Rubin
> Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics
> University of California
> 3845 Slichter Hall
> 603 Charles Young Dr. E
> Los Angeles, CA  90095-1567
> phone: 310-825-3202
> e-mail: aeru...@ucla.edu
> website: http://cosmochemists.igpp.ucla.edu/Rubin.html
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: "Laurence Garvie" ; 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements
> 
> 
> > Laurence,
> > I have a question.
> > You said;
> > "Shocked meteorites can be black. A great comparison is between the two 
> > know
> > chassignites - Chassigny and NWA2737, both of which have similar 
> > mineralogies.
> > Fresh Chassigny is yellowish green - the color is caused by Fe2+ in the 
> > olivine.
> > Yet, NWA2737 is black. The black color is caused by abundant 5 to 15
> > nanometer-sized iron-nickel droplets in the olivine, which are strongly
> > absorbing in the visible and near-IR region of the spectrum. These 
> > droplets are
> > formed during intense shock events."
> >
> > I googled this subject and found that the only time this was the case so 
> > far is in this exact Martian meteorite.
> > I can find no other reference where an Olivine is visually black in color.
> > So, does this mean that black olivine is definitive of meteoritic olivine?
> > I mean if you find a black rock ( dunite)  that you suspect is a meteorite 
> > , and a PTS or microprobe reveals it to in fact be olivine. Does this mean 
> > it is a meteorite?
> > What seems equally as amazing is that this is the only olivine ever 
> > verified that is black including all of the ones from earth.
> > This NWA 2737 truly is beautiful. Carine and Bruno still had some left at 
> > the recent Tucson show.  I have seen and held it many times. It is solid 
> > black.
> > Thanks,
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carl or Debbie Esparza
> > Meteoritemax
> >
> >
> >  Laurence Garvie  wrote:
> >> Just a quick reply to this subject as it could become lengthy and 
> >> involved.
> >>
> >> The primary coloring agent in meteorites is Fe2+ for fresh meteorites and 
> >> Fe3+ for weathered ones (BTW - shocked meteorites can be black - see 
> >> below). There is also Fe0, which is in the metal.
> >>
> >> When a few percent of Fe2+ is present, then minerals such as pyroxenes 
> >> and olivines are usually green to greenish-yellow. A good example of Fe2+ 
> >> coloring is in Johnstown, which is composed primarily of green pyroxene.
> >>
> >> If very little Fe2+ is present then pyroxene is normally white/clear as 
> >> in the aubrites, such as Bishopville.
> >>
> >> In our oxidizing atmosphere, the metals in meteorites rust, producing 
> >> Fe3+ -bearing oxides/oxyhydroxides. These rust minerals stain the 
> >> meteorite and can range in color from 
> >> yellow-orange-red-purple-brown-black.
> >>
> >> Shocked meteorites can be black. A great comparison is between the two 
> >> know chassignites - Chassigny and NWA2737, both of which have similar 
> >> mineralogies. Fresh Chassigny is yellowish green - the color is caused by 
> >> Fe2+ in the olivine. Yet, NWA2737 is black. The black color is caused by 
> >> abundant 5 to 15 nanometer-sized iron-nickel droplets in the olivine, 
> >> which are strongly absorbing in the visible and near-IR region of the 
> >> spectrum. These droplets are formed during intense shock events.
> >>
> >> Practically everything you ever wanted to know about color in minerals 
> >> can be found at Prof. Rossman's site at http://minerals.gps.caltech.edu/
> >>
> >>
> >> Laurence
> >> CMS
> >> ASU
> >>
> >> On Mar 30, 2011, at 7:52 PM, meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > essage: 3
> >> > Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:20:31 -0400
> >> > From: Michael Gilmer 
> >> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace
> >> > Elements
> >> > To: Thunder Stone 
> >> > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> >> > Message-ID:
> >> > 
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >> >
> >> > Hi Greg and List,
> >> >
> >> > Great question Greg.  I'm curious to hear what the experts have to say.
> >> >
> >> > Some OC's start out as white or light-grey - like some LL6 types.
> >> > That is why some LL6 meteorites are mistaken for lunars or eucrites -
> >> > because they lack chondrules and have that whitish color.
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> >
> >> > MikeG
> >> >
> >> > -

[meteorite-list] AD: ENSISHEIM, Tagish Lake, Peekskill, Seres, SYLACAUGA, St. Louis, 2008TC3, New Concord, Abee, Wold Cottage, Siena, Barwell , Weston, Bonita Springs and more ending on eBay!

[Shawn Alan]

Hello Listers, 

Thank you for taking a look at my post of meteorites I have for sale on eBay. 
Here is your chance to own some rare and historic meteorites. Please take a 
look and if you have any questions please email me and ill get back you or if 
your looking for a bigger/smaller meteorite, I might be able to help you :) 

Thank you 


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SERES meteorite 1818 1st and only meteorite from Greece
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NEW CONCORD meteorite 1860-Horse killer-ASU collection! **OVER 200mg**
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L'AIGLE Historic meteorite from France, 1803 vary rare **PROVED meteorites fall 
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[meteorite-list] AD: ebay auctions ending

[Moritz Karl]

Dear List,

I have 31 auctions ending tomorrow on Sunday April 3rd starting at 12:01 pm
PDT.
Lots of items were started at low bids and many have no bids so far.
Up for auction are planetaries, irons, historical falls, pallasites, mesos,
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There should be something for almost everybody.

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[meteorite-list] Micrometeorites altered early Earth's climate

[Paul H.]

Sugar-grain sized meteorites rocked the climates of early 
Earth and Mars, according to new study, Imperial College 
London. April 1, 2011‎
http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/newsandeventspggrp/imperialcollege/newssummary/news_1-4-2011-14-58-35

Sugar-Grain Sized Meteorites Rocked the Climates of Early 
Earth and Mars, According to New Study, ScienceDaily 
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/04/110401085320.htm

Court, R. W., and M. A. Sephton. 2011, The contribution of 
sulphur dioxide from ablating micrometeorites to the 
atmospheres of Earth and Mars. Geochimica et Cosmochimica 
Acta. vol. 75, no. 7, pp. 1704-1717. DOI: 10.1016/j.gca.2011.01.029
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.gca.2011.01.029

Yours,

Paul H.
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Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine

[MEM]

Erics post about his opinion of what was or was not list business was responded 
to off list --as he demanded but did not do himself.  I also repeated for the 
nth time my desire to be removed from his mailing list for ebay auctions..sigh.

My post about a specific incidence of questionable "Ethics".   In the meteorite 
hobby, ethics extends beyond "which country allows or doesn't allow meteorite 
export".  When someone is potentially breaking a law then it is legitimate 
discussion--especially when they are so in your face about it and freely posts 
the details to the list.  When someone is posting what most might believe to be 
personal details (e.g. TMI )then it is also fodder for list discussion when it 
raises the specter of fraud or abuse.  Under that license, I addressed a 
questionable activity to ensure that ethics were in fact being adhered to.  
Seems the enablers don't care truly care about ethics-- just situational ethics 
and protecting their diseased cows at the risk and expense other cow herders.   


None of us wants Steve to "inadvertantly" violate any laws--especially any that 
would bring discredit to the hobby. I think he was fairly notified that someone 
IS looking over his shoulder just in case.  This is a good thing as Martha 
might 
have said during her stint up river.

Elton





- Original Message 
> From: Meteorites USA 
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 1:11:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine
> 
> Elton, I fail to see how Steve's personal life, or business is any of 
> yours.  Nor can I see where your borderline libel and inflammatory post 
> has any  place on this list.
> 
> I'm not sure anyone here wishes to read it, and it's  an obvious personal 
> attack with legal implications. Just because you have  something in your 
> craw for Steve doesn't mean everyone here on list wants to  read or hear 
> about it. Your post is highly unprofessional and perhaps  illegal unto 
> itself. Please take personal and legal matters offlist!
> 
> Regards,
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/2/2011 9:52 AM, MEM  wrote:
> > (NOTE: waste, fraud , and abuse of public funds is a matter of  public 
>interest)
> >
> >
> > Steve,  If you were to ask, I am  sure some folks here on the list would 
>"rent"
> > you some   meteorites-- Netflix-style-- you can swap out every 2 weeks and 
>save
> > all  the
> >
> > hassle of buying high and selling low.
> >
> >  However I need to ask: are you using your unemployment check again to  buy
> > meteorites? We both know the  Illinois Department of Labor  doesn't look 
>kindly
> > on using
> >
> > unemployment funds to  purchase inventory for  business-activity--and they
> > consider buying  and selling
> >
> > business-activity whether declared or not.  In  fact one isn't eligible for
> > unemployment if they run their own business,  and if it is an unlicensed
> > business.  That gets into the fraud  arenaagain.
> >
> > One may not own/operate a "business" while  drawing unemployment
> > compensation--and...well you already know that  don't you? You may not be 
>earning
> >
> > "wages" but you aren't  unemployed, if you are buying and selling.  Some 
>folks
> >  have
> >
> > the  the IDOL Fraud Hotline on speed dial. The  messages you post on the 
>internet
> >
> > are  evidence that you  engage in buying and selling during times of
> >  unemployment.
> >
> > I don't know the penalty of a conviction on this  but is it really worth 
> > the 
>risk
> >
> > and given everything else you  say is on your plate do you really want to 
>take
> > groceries money to spend  $350-600 for something you will eventually sell 
for
> > $70-80 out of  desperation.
> >
> > Elton
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -  Original Message 
> >
> >> From: stevearnold
> >>  To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> >>  Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 9:04:52 AM
> >> Subject: [meteorite-list] tatahouine
> >>
> >> Good morning list.Anyone have any tatahouine  available?Say in the 10 to 
> >> 20  
>gram
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  range and could give me a good deal?
> >>   Steve R.Arnold,  Chicago!
> >>  
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Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine

[Jason Utas]

Elton, A few things,

1) This issue is essentially identical to a similar situation from
about a year ago in which a list-member publicly 'called out' another
member on supposed illegal things they'd done.  Regardless of the
court's verdict, the person who publicly posted the libel (yes,
"libel," because Chicago Steve has not been determined to be guilty of
anything) was banned from the list.  In my opinion, you deserve the
same treatment.

You are publicly accusing Steve of illegal and potentially damaging
things without a shred of proof.

That is libel, and this list should not serve as a means for your
illegal dissemination of unfounded, damaging accusations.

If this list is 'fair,' you should be banned.

2) The issue that you have brought to light in no way has any bearing
on Steve's dealings in meteorites.  I know for a fact that taxes are
not paid on many dealer and collector transactions because both cash
and rocks trade hands undeclared.  Since I don't see you decrying such
actions as defrauding the government, and since the money saved in
such transactions goes back into the dealers' pockets and is converted
into new inventory, I can only assume that you're singling out Steve
here again, just like good ole' times, because you've got the same
cactus lodged up your backside.  I don't know how or why you've got
such a beef with Steve, but I'm going to have to implore you, just as
I did years ago, to TAKE IT OFF LIST.

And if you've got a problem with Eric's email list -- I've got a yahoo
email account, too -- you can easily block his email address or mark
all of his incoming messages as spam with LITERALLY TWO CLICKS OF A
MOUSE.  Since you haven't done that, just as you have chosen not to
block Steve (and have instead opted to publicly attack him...yet
again), I can only assume, as I did before, that you enjoy berating
people in public merely for the amusement of it.

Given your colorful and patchy history on this list due to prior list
infractions, I have no reason to believe otherwise.

Best,
Jason

On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 11:09 AM, MEM  wrote:
> Erics post about his opinion of what was or was not list business was 
> responded
> to off list --as he demanded but did not do himself.  I also repeated for the
> nth time my desire to be removed from his mailing list for ebay 
> auctions..sigh.
>
> My post about a specific incidence of questionable "Ethics".   In the 
> meteorite
> hobby, ethics extends beyond "which country allows or doesn't allow meteorite
> export".  When someone is potentially breaking a law then it is legitimate
> discussion--especially when they are so in your face about it and freely posts
> the details to the list.  When someone is posting what most might believe to 
> be
> personal details (e.g. TMI )then it is also fodder for list discussion when it
> raises the specter of fraud or abuse.  Under that license, I addressed a
> questionable activity to ensure that ethics were in fact being adhered to.
> Seems the enablers don't care truly care about ethics-- just situational 
> ethics
> and protecting their diseased cows at the risk and expense other cow herders.
>
>
> None of us wants Steve to "inadvertantly" violate any laws--especially any 
> that
> would bring discredit to the hobby. I think he was fairly notified that 
> someone
> IS looking over his shoulder just in case.  This is a good thing as Martha 
> might
> have said during her stint up river.
>
> Elton
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message 
>> From: Meteorites USA 
>> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 1:11:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine
>>
>> Elton, I fail to see how Steve's personal life, or business is any of
>> yours.  Nor can I see where your borderline libel and inflammatory post
>> has any  place on this list.
>>
>> I'm not sure anyone here wishes to read it, and it's  an obvious personal
>> attack with legal implications. Just because you have  something in your
>> craw for Steve doesn't mean everyone here on list wants to  read or hear
>> about it. Your post is highly unprofessional and perhaps  illegal unto
>> itself. Please take personal and legal matters offlist!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/2/2011 9:52 AM, MEM  wrote:
>> > (NOTE: waste, fraud , and abuse of public funds is a matter of  public
>>interest)
>> >
>> >
>> > Steve,  If you were to ask, I am  sure some folks here on the list would
>>"rent"
>> > you some   meteorites-- Netflix-style-- you can swap out every 2 weeks and
>>save
>> > all  the
>> >
>> > hassle of buying high and selling low.
>> >
>> >  However I need to ask: are you using your unemployment check again to  buy
>> > meteorites? We both know the  Illinois Department of Labor  doesn't look
>>kindly
>> > on using
>> >
>> > unemployment funds to  purchase inventory for  business-activity--and they
>> > consider buying  and selling
>> >
>> > business-activity whether declared or not.  In  fact one isn't eligible for
>> > unem

Re: [meteorite-list] Onlist Offlist and Ethics...was tat

[MEM]

Lets let Steve speak for himself, Shall we?  

(Why do all these enablers keep complaining about taking things off list --then 
insure their diatribes are  posted onlist?)  Liberals, politicians in general, 
and crooks always seem to exempt themselves from the rules they demand others 
follow.  Why are you making a "personal attack"against me on-list when you 
preach about it being a list violation?  Didn't you have a recent diatribe 
about 
ethics?  Where are your ethics?

I've addressed why I thought my post was list business twice now and I will not 
justify it again--especially to you.  So please take your misguided, 
misinformed, parental conflict, ignorance of the facts, situation and complain 
to someone else.  And Jason, my "widdle antagonist", Your mouth seems to have 
certain echo quality --like it was coming out of  your loins. Have you thought 
about  having it surgically repositioned?--  You've no fracking idea what my  
email settings are just who is engaging in idle speculation?

There are several members of the meteorite community who know specifically what 
unethical / illegal activities I am talking about, I don't remember you 
stepping 
forward at the time.  So once again you haven't a clue and I tire of the 
magical 
trick you keep putting in my face where you pull a smelly bouquet out of a body 
orifice and call it "righteous indignation".  


Jason I don't see your name listed on any of the notarized documents  and so 
far 
as I can tell you aren't entitled to view them either.  As you've made amply 
clear, you have deep abiding tiff with me which won't die so you look for every 
opportunity to grind your ax.  I have a beef with Steve's ethics but at least I 
have a reason which I state EVERYTIME I have cause to bring it up.   This is 
sorta my way of saying talk to the hand.

So put your effort where your mouth is and if you feel compelled to "chastise 
me" or lie about me-- follow your own demands and write me off list.  I do not 
just now have your emails set to automatically get File 13ed.

Elton




- Original Message 
> From: Jason Utas 
> To: Meteorite-list ; 
>list...@meteoritecentral.com; Meteorites USA 
> Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 2:42:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine
> 
> Elton, A few things,
> 
> 1) This issue is essentially identical to a similar  situation from
> about a year ago in which a list-member publicly 'called out'  another
> member on supposed illegal things they'd done.  Regardless of  the
> court's verdict, the person who publicly posted the libel  (yes,
> "libel," because Chicago Steve has not been determined to be guilty  of
> anything) was banned from the list.  In my opinion, you deserve  the
> same treatment.
> 
> You are publicly accusing Steve of illegal and  potentially damaging
> things without a shred of proof.
> 
> That is libel,  and this list should not serve as a means for your
> illegal dissemination of  unfounded, damaging accusations.
> 
> If this list is 'fair,' you should be  banned.
> 
> 2) The issue that you have brought to light in no way has any  bearing
> on Steve's dealings in meteorites.  I know for a fact that taxes  are
> not paid on many dealer and collector transactions because both  cash
> and rocks trade hands undeclared.  Since I don't see you decrying  such
> actions as defrauding the government, and since the money saved  in
> such transactions goes back into the dealers' pockets and is  converted
> into new inventory, I can only assume that you're singling out  Steve
> here again, just like good ole' times, because you've got the  same
> cactus lodged up your backside.  I don't know how or why you've  got
> such a beef with Steve, but I'm going to have to implore you, just  as
> I did years ago, to TAKE IT OFF LIST.
> 
> And if you've got a problem  with Eric's email list -- I've got a yahoo
> email account, too -- you can  easily block his email address or mark
> all of his incoming messages as spam  with LITERALLY TWO CLICKS OF A
> MOUSE.  Since you haven't done that, just  as you have chosen not to
> block Steve (and have instead opted to publicly  attack him...yet
> again), I can only assume, as I did before, that you enjoy  berating
> people in public merely for the amusement of it.
> 
> Given your  colorful and patchy history on this list due to prior list
> infractions, I  have no reason to believe otherwise.
> 
> Best,
> Jason
> 
> On Sat, Apr 2,  2011 at 11:09 AM, MEM  wrote:
> >  Erics post about his opinion of what was or was not list business was  
>responded
> > to off list --as he demanded but did not do himself.  I also  repeated for 
>the
> > nth time my desire to be removed from his mailing list  for ebay
>auctions..sigh.
> >
> > My post about a specific incidence of  questionable "Ethics".   In the 
>meteorite
> > hobby, ethics extends beyond  "which country allows or doesn't allow 
>meteorite
> > export".  When someone  is potentially breaking a law then it is legitimate
> >  discus

Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine

[Jason Utas]

Hello Carl, All,
Same format -

1) I am not the police.  When I see someone say something that I
perceive to be untrue, I say something about it.  When I see someone
saying something unduly mean and/or possibly incriminating --
especially if they have no evidence to back their comments up -- I'll
say something about it.

That's what any decent person would do.

2) With regards to Bill Sajkowitz, I have not stated what you claim I
have.  I surmised that his finds were highly suspect, and, after
talking with some other local hunters who have spoken with him, I
personally believe that his claims of finding what he has are not
based in fact.

That is not to say that I have any *good evidence* to support my beliefs.

But -- when I hear stories about people who appear out of nowhere and
submit multiple new, large, and extremely rare meteorites that they
claim to have found, and then refuse to show *anyone* a single one of
their finds -- I tend to believe that the stories aren't true.  If
someone makes a crazy claim, I expect to see some evidence supporting
it.  If the person making the claims has repeatedly refused to do even
that, I begin to wonder...

That is all I'm willing to say on the matter; outright accusing anyone
of fraud at this point would again be akin to libel.  Sajkowitz could
be the luckiest meteorite hunter in the world.  It's possible.  All I
can say is that I personally doubt that because I'm a rational person.
 Believe what you will.

3) Elton does not "keep things real."  He has made a number of
informative posts over the years, but whenever Steve Arnold of Chicago
comes up, he goes off the deep end.  What if Steve is using money his
wife has earned to buy meteorites?  What if he's using money from
sales?  What if he has a little money saved up from his job and he's
buying meteorites with that?  Unless Elton can prove that none of
these possibilities is true, he *needs* to stop accusing Steve of
illicit crap, because what he is saying is legally libel, and I have
the feeling the only reason he keeps saying the same crap is because
he likes taking out his pent-up emotional crap on Steve -- and because
he knows he can get away with it.

Furthermore, you completely disregarded my note about how most dealers
and collectors avoid paying taxes on many transactions because many
purchases are simply never declared.  Unless we're talking about
getting the IMCA to enforce such things, bringing up this sort of
federal/state financial rubbish is just crap.
It's like trying to plaster a politician you don't like with something
-- when you know they're all guilty of the same things anyways.

If Steve has cheated people in our community, that is an issue that
they should take up with the IMCA, and if they wish to make public
comments regarding his integrity to the list, detailing the situation,
that is up to them.

I've heard of countless underhanded things that prominent list-members
have done over the years, and I'm not saying anything about them.
Why?  It's not my place to bring other peoples' issues to light.  If
they want to do that, it's on them.  Not you, Elton, or I.  Secondhand
information becomes third, becomes hearsay.  It all becomes rumors and
lies.

Elton's making unrelated accusations without proof, and with what
appears to be pure malice as a motivator.  That passes in politics,
but I'd like to think we meteorite-folk can at least pretend to have
higher standards.

Jason

On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM,   wrote:
> Jason,
> How does that saying go?
> If you look up "the pot calling the kettle black" you would see a picture of 
> you.
> Jason, you are arguably the most police like person on this list.
> This is a good thing in my opinion.
> We need policeman such as you and Elton in order to keep people honest.
> Jason, it was you  that was quick to point out how odd it was for a newbie: 
> someone none of us has ever heard of. cold-Found three new achondrites in Az. 
> This with NO ordinary chondrite finds under his belt.
> No, you did not out right call him a fraud but we all got your point that 
> this guy did the impossible (at least statistically).
> We all got your point loud and clear that this guy had obviously planted 
> these finds.
> To me besides the obvious problem with this jerk faking finds is the fact 
> that with registered co-ords , others have followed him looking for more of 
> the same material. Material that they obviously will never find because as 
> you pointed out it was planted there.
> Again, I applaud the two of you for keeping things real here.
> After all, Steve did ask to buy tatahuine material. and he is presumably on 
> unemployment.
> I also agree that the sale of personal property is not a problem but Steve 
> wanted to buy it not sell it.
> I am not the judge of this but you two are very much alike and that is a good 
> thing.
> Carl
> Carl or Debbie Esparza
> Meteoritemax
>
>
>  Jason Utas  wrote:
>> Elton, A few things,
>>
>> 1) This issue is essent

Re: [meteorite-list] Onlist Offlist and Ethics...was tat

[Jason Utas]

You're the one making accusations, Elton.  You're the one who needs
the notarized documents.  It's not "guilty until proven innocent," at
least where I'm from.

As such, it's all still just libel.  If you read my last post, I
already covered the issues glanced at in your spectacularly insulting
post.

You're not Mr. Policeman, same as me.  If others have had issues with
Steve in the past, it's their job to bring them to light.  All you
keep saying is "he has defrauded nameless others."

I'm sorry, but that doesn't count as evidence, and since none of those
people are willing to share, you're just parading an empty flag.

Your last email makes you sound borderline insane.  If your first post
didn't get you banned, this one should.  I have nothing else to say.

Jason



On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 12:39 PM, MEM  wrote:
> Lets let Steve speak for himself, Shall we?
>
> (Why do all these enablers keep complaining about taking things off list 
> --then
> insure their diatribes are  posted onlist?)  Liberals, politicians in general,
> and crooks always seem to exempt themselves from the rules they demand others
> follow.  Why are you making a "personal attack"against me on-list when you
> preach about it being a list violation?  Didn't you have a recent diatribe 
> about
> ethics?  Where are your ethics?
>
> I've addressed why I thought my post was list business twice now and I will 
> not
> justify it again--especially to you.  So please take your misguided,
> misinformed, parental conflict, ignorance of the facts, situation and complain
> to someone else.  And Jason, my "widdle antagonist", Your mouth seems to have
> certain echo quality --like it was coming out of  your loins. Have you thought
> about  having it surgically repositioned?--  You've no fracking idea what my
> email settings are just who is engaging in idle speculation?
>
> There are several members of the meteorite community who know specifically 
> what
> unethical / illegal activities I am talking about, I don't remember you 
> stepping
> forward at the time.  So once again you haven't a clue and I tire of the 
> magical
> trick you keep putting in my face where you pull a smelly bouquet out of a 
> body
> orifice and call it "righteous indignation".
>
>
> Jason I don't see your name listed on any of the notarized documents  and so 
> far
> as I can tell you aren't entitled to view them either.  As you've made amply
> clear, you have deep abiding tiff with me which won't die so you look for 
> every
> opportunity to grind your ax.  I have a beef with Steve's ethics but at least 
> I
> have a reason which I state EVERYTIME I have cause to bring it up.   This is
> sorta my way of saying talk to the hand.
>
> So put your effort where your mouth is and if you feel compelled to "chastise
> me" or lie about me-- follow your own demands and write me off list.  I do not
> just now have your emails set to automatically get File 13ed.
>
> Elton
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message 
>> From: Jason Utas 
>> To: Meteorite-list ;
>>list...@meteoritecentral.com; Meteorites USA 
>> Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 2:42:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine
>>
>> Elton, A few things,
>>
>> 1) This issue is essentially identical to a similar  situation from
>> about a year ago in which a list-member publicly 'called out'  another
>> member on supposed illegal things they'd done.  Regardless of  the
>> court's verdict, the person who publicly posted the libel  (yes,
>> "libel," because Chicago Steve has not been determined to be guilty  of
>> anything) was banned from the list.  In my opinion, you deserve  the
>> same treatment.
>>
>> You are publicly accusing Steve of illegal and  potentially damaging
>> things without a shred of proof.
>>
>> That is libel,  and this list should not serve as a means for your
>> illegal dissemination of  unfounded, damaging accusations.
>>
>> If this list is 'fair,' you should be  banned.
>>
>> 2) The issue that you have brought to light in no way has any  bearing
>> on Steve's dealings in meteorites.  I know for a fact that taxes  are
>> not paid on many dealer and collector transactions because both  cash
>> and rocks trade hands undeclared.  Since I don't see you decrying  such
>> actions as defrauding the government, and since the money saved  in
>> such transactions goes back into the dealers' pockets and is  converted
>> into new inventory, I can only assume that you're singling out  Steve
>> here again, just like good ole' times, because you've got the  same
>> cactus lodged up your backside.  I don't know how or why you've  got
>> such a beef with Steve, but I'm going to have to implore you, just  as
>> I did years ago, to TAKE IT OFF LIST.
>>
>> And if you've got a problem  with Eric's email list -- I've got a yahoo
>> email account, too -- you can  easily block his email address or mark
>> all of his incoming messages as spam  with LITERALLY TWO CLICKS OF A
>> MOUSE.  Since you haven't done that, just  as you have chose

Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine

[David]

My sentiments exactly! This type of slander and libel has no place on this 
forum. Who made you judge and jury Elton? Mind your own business and keep this 
type of trash where it belongs.


-Original Message-
>From: Meteorites USA 
>Sent: Apr 2, 2011 10:11 AM
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine
>
>Elton, I fail to see how Steve's personal life, or business is any of 
>yours. Nor can I see where your borderline libel and inflammatory post 
>has any place on this list.
>
>I'm not sure anyone here wishes to read it, and it's an obvious personal 
>attack with legal implications. Just because you have something in your 
>craw for Steve doesn't mean everyone here on list wants to read or hear 
>about it. Your post is highly unprofessional and perhaps illegal unto 
>itself. Please take personal and legal matters offlist!
>
>Regards,
>Eric
>
>
>
>On 4/2/2011 9:52 AM, MEM wrote:
>> (NOTE: waste, fraud , and abuse of public funds is a matter of public 
>> interest)
>>
>>
>> Steve,  If you were to ask, I am sure some folks here on the list would 
>> "rent"
>> you some  meteorites-- Netflix-style-- you can swap out every 2 weeks and 
>> save
>> all the
>>
>> hassle of buying high and selling low.
>>
>> However I need to ask: are you using your unemployment check again to buy
>> meteorites? We both know the  Illinois Department of Labor doesn't look 
>> kindly
>> on using
>>
>> unemployment funds to purchase inventory for  business-activity--and they
>> consider buying and selling
>>
>> business-activity whether declared or not.  In fact one isn't eligible for
>> unemployment if they run their own business, and if it is an unlicensed
>> business.  That gets into the fraud arenaagain.
>>
>> One may not own/operate a "business" while drawing unemployment
>> compensation--and...well you already know that don't you? You may not be 
>> earning
>>
>> "wages" but you aren't unemployed, if you are buying and selling.  Some folks
>> have
>>
>> the  the IDOL Fraud Hotline on speed dial. The messages you post on the 
>> internet
>>
>> are  evidence that you engage in buying and selling during times of
>> unemployment.
>>
>> I don't know the penalty of a conviction on this but is it really worth the 
>> risk
>>
>> and given everything else you say is on your plate do you really want to take
>> groceries money to spend $350-600 for something you will eventually sell for
>> $70-80 out of desperation.
>>
>> Elton
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message 
>>
>>> From: steve arnold
>>> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>> Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 9:04:52 AM
>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] tatahouine
>>>
>>> Good morning list.Anyone have any tatahouine available?Say in the 10 to 20 
>>> gram
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> range and could give me a good deal?
>>>   Steve R.Arnold, Chicago!
>>>  
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[meteorite-list] FYI- SyFy Chnl.

[Barrett]

As an attempt to try and lighten things up here, apparently the SyFy Channel
is having a "Meteor Marathon" today.
The whole earth is on the brink of impending doom all day, one after
another!
-Happy Hunting
-Barrett & Roxanne
www.FallenStarHunters.com


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Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine

[tett]

Elton,

It is behaviour like yours that turns people away form this list.  From 
your comments I have a clear picture of what kind of person you are.


Mike Tettenborn



On 02/04/2011 12:52 PM, MEM wrote:

(NOTE: waste, fraud , and abuse of public funds is a matter of public interest)


Steve,  If you were to ask, I am sure some folks here on the list would "rent"
you some  meteorites-- Netflix-style-- you can swap out every 2 weeks and save
all the

hassle of buying high and selling low.

However I need to ask: are you using your unemployment check again to buy
meteorites? We both know the  Illinois Department of Labor doesn't look kindly
on using

unemployment funds to purchase inventory for  business-activity--and they
consider buying and selling

business-activity whether declared or not.  In fact one isn't eligible for
unemployment if they run their own business, and if it is an unlicensed
business.  That gets into the fraud arenaagain.

One may not own/operate a "business" while drawing unemployment
compensation--and...well you already know that don't you? You may not be earning

"wages" but you aren't unemployed, if you are buying and selling.  Some folks
have

the  the IDOL Fraud Hotline on speed dial. The messages you post on the internet

are  evidence that you engage in buying and selling during times of
unemployment.

I don't know the penalty of a conviction on this but is it really worth the risk

and given everything else you say is on your plate do you really want to take
groceries money to spend $350-600 for something you will eventually sell for
$70-80 out of desperation.

Elton




- Original Message 

From: steve arnold
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 9:04:52 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] tatahouine

Good morning list.Anyone have any tatahouine available?Say in the 10 to 20 gram





range and could give me a good deal?
  Steve R.Arnold, Chicago!

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[meteorite-list] New Park Forest House Smasher

[bill kies]

Please excuse me if this posts twice. I can't remember if the first post was in 
plain text.
 
Hi All,
 
I just got a call on a previously unreported PF house smasher. The owner says 
it weighs "around 2 or 3 pounds". Although I haven't looked at it yet, he says 
It came through his roof the night of the fall so I'm pretty sure it's genuine. 
I've never purchased a rock of that size and importance. 
 
My question to the collective is, what should I pay for it? I want to make a 
profit of course but I also want to be fair. 
 
Thanks,
Bill
 
 
 

  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Red Canyon Lake Fall - 2007

[meteoriteguy.com]

It is hard to pick real news out of most of the endless chatter on the list. It 
was found, mentioned some years ago and ignored like most actual meteorites on 
here. For real discussion it seems most here want some controversy or other 
idiotic crap in order to actually discuss it.
Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 1, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Michael Gilmer  wrote:

> Hi List,
> 
> How come I never heard about this fall?  Was I sleeping at the wheel
> and just missed the chatter about it?
> 
> And what amazing luck to find such a tiny stone!
> 
> Red Canyon Lake - http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=53502
> 
> Best regards and happy huntings,
> 
> MikeG
> 
> --
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> 
> Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
> Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
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> Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
> EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Park Forest House Smasher

[Greg Hupe]

Hello Bill,

My advice would be to question this 8-year old party 'crasher' to the hilt. 
With all of the news coverage at the time quoting 'thousands' of dollars 
being made by locals, don't you think this house would have been known about 
at the time?! There was a show recently that was broadcast last year also 
about 'Accidental Fortunes" or something like that. It included the story of 
the Park Forest fall and people making up to $500,000.00 (combined quote) 
from the fall in their neighborhood.


I smell an opportunist at work here!! I wish you the best with what "I" 
would consider a suspect stone at best!


Best Regards,
Greg


Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
gmh...@centurylink.net
www.LunarRock.com
IMCA 3163


-Original Message- 
From: bill kies

Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 5:08 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] New Park Forest House Smasher


Please excuse me if this posts twice. I can't remember if the first post was 
in plain text.


Hi All,

I just got a call on a previously unreported PF house smasher. The owner 
says it weighs "around 2 or 3 pounds". Although I haven't looked at it yet, 
he says It came through his roof the night of the fall so I'm pretty sure 
it's genuine. I've never purchased a rock of that size and importance.


My question to the collective is, what should I pay for it? I want to make a 
profit of course but I also want to be fair.


Thanks,
Bill





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Re: [meteorite-list] New Park Forest House Smasher

[meteoriteguy.com]

I highly doubt this would show up so much later. Would have to be well 
documented and park forest very easy to recognize. I also doubt they would have 
kept quiet with all the media hubbub after the fall. This one stinks to me.
Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2011, at 2:36 PM, "Greg Hupe"  wrote:

> Hello Bill,
> 
> My advice would be to question this 8-year old party 'crasher' to the hilt. 
> With all of the news coverage at the time quoting 'thousands' of dollars 
> being made by locals, don't you think this house would have been known about 
> at the time?! There was a show recently that was broadcast last year also 
> about 'Accidental Fortunes" or something like that. It included the story of 
> the Park Forest fall and people making up to $500,000.00 (combined quote) 
> from the fall in their neighborhood.
> 
> I smell an opportunist at work here!! I wish you the best with what "I" would 
> consider a suspect stone at best!
> 
> Best Regards,
> Greg
> 
> 
> Greg Hupe
> The Hupe Collection
> gmh...@centurylink.net
> www.LunarRock.com
> IMCA 3163
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: bill kies
> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 5:08 PM
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] New Park Forest House Smasher
> 
> 
> Please excuse me if this posts twice. I can't remember if the first post was 
> in plain text.
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I just got a call on a previously unreported PF house smasher. The owner says 
> it weighs "around 2 or 3 pounds". Although I haven't looked at it yet, he 
> says It came through his roof the night of the fall so I'm pretty sure it's 
> genuine. I've never purchased a rock of that size and importance.
> 
> My question to the collective is, what should I pay for it? I want to make a 
> profit of course but I also want to be fair.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine

[GREG LINDH]

 
  Lord have mercy, Elton!
 
  What the..?
 
 
  Greg L.
 
 
 


> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 09:52:31 -0700
> From: mstrema...@yahoo.com
> To: stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine
> 
> (NOTE: waste, fraud , and abuse of public funds is a matter of public 
> interest) 
> 
> 
> Steve, If you were to ask, I am sure some folks here on the list would "rent" 
> you some meteorites-- Netflix-style-- you can swap out every 2 weeks and save 
> all the 
> 
> hassle of buying high and selling low.
> 
> However I need to ask: are you using your unemployment check again to buy 
> meteorites? We both know the Illinois Department of Labor doesn't look kindly 
> on using 
> 
> unemployment funds to purchase inventory for business-activity--and they 
> consider buying and selling 
> 
> business-activity whether declared or not. In fact one isn't eligible for 
> unemployment if they run their own business, and if it is an unlicensed 
> business. That gets into the fraud arenaagain.
> 
> One may not own/operate a "business" while drawing unemployment 
> compensation--and...well you already know that don't you? You may not be 
> earning 
> 
> "wages" but you aren't unemployed, if you are buying and selling. Some folks 
> have 
> 
> the the IDOL Fraud Hotline on speed dial. The messages you post on the 
> internet 
> 
> are evidence that you engage in buying and selling during times of 
> unemployment.
> 
> I don't know the penalty of a conviction on this but is it really worth the 
> risk 
> 
> and given everything else you say is on your plate do you really want to take 
> groceries money to spend $350-600 for something you will eventually sell for 
> $70-80 out of desperation.
> 
> Elton
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> > From: steve arnold 
> > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 9:04:52 AM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] tatahouine
> > 
> > Good morning list.Anyone have any tatahouine available?Say in the 10 to 20 
> > gram 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > range and could give me a good deal?
> > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Park Forest House Smasher

[cdtucson]

Bill,
According to a post by Martin back in April 24, 2010 under subject; Wisconsin 
fireball Meteorite fall.  it is  $15.00- $25.00 per gram with 40 people selling 
it . today probably less.  
No data given for a 2-3 pounder. It is my understanding that it would be worth 
less per gram the larger the size though. Supposedly Tatauine is the only 
exception to that rule. I know. Not much help.
Carl
--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax


 bill kies  wrote: 
> 
> Please excuse me if this posts twice. I can't remember if the first post was 
> in plain text.
>  
> Hi All,
>  
> I just got a call on a previously unreported PF house smasher. The owner says 
> it weighs "around 2 or 3 pounds". Although I haven't looked at it yet, he 
> says It came through his roof the night of the fall so I'm pretty sure it's 
> genuine. I've never purchased a rock of that size and importance. 
>  
> My question to the collective is, what should I pay for it? I want to make a 
> profit of course but I also want to be fair. 
>  
> Thanks,
> Bill
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
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[meteorite-list] Fw: Re: [off-list] tatahouine

[David]

This is the type of response I get for asking that this type of attack not be a 
part of this list. I do not know Steve or Elton, but this is uncalled for.


-Forwarded Message-
>From: MEM 
>Sent: Apr 2, 2011 3:11 PM
>To: David 
>Subject: Re: [off-list] tatahouine
>
>David aka  Bozo Brain. Please insure your head is full of facts before running 
>off a the mouth about things you haven't a clue about.  I've never heard from 
>you before so I must assume you are one of Steves's "Special friends that only 
>join the list to defend Stev and then disappears.  If I run your ISP will 
>it 
>be the same as Steve's?  or has Steveee caught on now?
>
>David if that is really who you are...Follow your own advice and mind your own 
>business.
>
>Kiss Kiss,
>Elton
>
>
>
>
>- Original Message 
>> From: David 
>> To: Meteorites USA ; 
>>meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 4:41:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine
>> 
>> My sentiments exactly! This type of slander and libel has no place on this  
>>forum. Who made you judge and jury Elton? Mind your own business and keep 
>>this  
>>type of trash where it belongs.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original  Message-
>> >From: Meteorites USA 
>> >Sent:  Apr 2, 2011 10:11 AM
>> >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> >Subject:  Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine
>> >
>> >Elton, I fail to see how Steve's  personal life, or business is any of 
>> >yours. Nor can I see where your  borderline libel and inflammatory post 
>> >has any place on this  list.
>> >
>> >I'm not sure anyone here wishes to read it, and it's an  obvious personal 
>> >attack with legal implications. Just because you have  something in your 
>> >craw for Steve doesn't mean everyone here on list  wants to read or hear 
>> >about it. Your post is highly unprofessional and  perhaps illegal unto 
>> >itself. Please take personal and legal matters  offlist!
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >Eric
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On  4/2/2011 9:52 AM, MEM wrote:
>> >> (NOTE: waste, fraud , and abuse of  public funds is a matter of public 
>>interest)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Steve,  If you were to ask, I am sure some folks here on the list would  
>>"rent"
>> >> you some  meteorites-- Netflix-style-- you can swap out  every 2 weeks 
>> >> and 
>>save
>> >> all the
>> >>
>> >> hassle of  buying high and selling low.
>> >>
>> >> However I need to ask: are  you using your unemployment check again to buy
>> >> meteorites? We both  know the  Illinois Department of Labor doesn't look 
>>kindly
>> >> on  using
>> >>
>> >> unemployment funds to purchase inventory for   business-activity--and they
>> >> consider buying and  selling
>> >>
>> >> business-activity whether declared or not.   In fact one isn't eligible 
>> >> for
>> >> unemployment if they run their own  business, and if it is an unlicensed
>> >> business.  That gets into  the fraud arenaagain.
>> >>
>> >> One may not own/operate a  "business" while drawing unemployment
>> >> compensation--and...well you  already know that don't you? You may not be 
>>earning
>> >>
>> >>  "wages" but you aren't unemployed, if you are buying and selling.  Some  
>>folks
>> >> have
>> >>
>> >> the  the IDOL Fraud Hotline  on speed dial. The messages you post on the 
>>internet
>> >>
>> >>  are  evidence that you engage in buying and selling during times  of
>> >> unemployment.
>> >>
>> >> I don't know the penalty of  a conviction on this but is it really worth 
>> >> the 
>>risk
>> >>
>> >> and  given everything else you say is on your plate do you really want to 
>> >>  
>>take
>> >> groceries money to spend $350-600 for something you will  eventually sell 
>>for
>> >> $70-80 out of  desperation.
>> >>
>> >>  Elton
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> - Original  Message 
>> >>
>> >>> From: steve arnold
>> >>>  To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> >>>  Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 9:04:52 AM
>> >>> Subject: [meteorite-list]  tatahouine
>> >>>
>> >>> Good morning list.Anyone have any  tatahouine available?Say in the 10 to 
>> >>> 20  
>>gram
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>  range and could give me a good deal?
>> >>>   Steve R.Arnold,  Chicago!
>> >>>  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Re: [off-list] tatahouine

[Art]

Please stop the thread, thanks.

-Art

On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 3:35 PM, David  wrote:
> This is the type of response I get for asking that this type of attack not be 
> a part of this list. I do not know Steve or Elton, but this is uncalled for.
>
>
> -Forwarded Message-
>>From: MEM 
>>Sent: Apr 2, 2011 3:11 PM
>>To: David 
>>Subject: Re: [off-list] tatahouine
>>
>>David aka  Bozo Brain. Please insure your head is full of facts before running
>>off a the mouth about things you haven't a clue about.  I've never heard from
>>you before so I must assume you are one of Steves's "Special friends that only
>>join the list to defend Stev and then disappears.  If I run your ISP will 
>>it
>>be the same as Steve's?  or has Steveee caught on now?
>>
>>David if that is really who you are...Follow your own advice and mind your own
>>business.
>>
>>Kiss Kiss,
>>Elton
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>- Original Message 
>>> From: David 
>>> To: Meteorites USA ;
>>>meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>> Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 4:41:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine
>>>
>>> My sentiments exactly! This type of slander and libel has no place on this
>>>forum. Who made you judge and jury Elton? Mind your own business and keep 
>>>this
>>>type of trash where it belongs.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original  Message-
>>> >From: Meteorites USA 
>>> >Sent:  Apr 2, 2011 10:11 AM
>>> >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>> >Subject:  Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine
>>> >
>>> >Elton, I fail to see how Steve's  personal life, or business is any of
>>> >yours. Nor can I see where your  borderline libel and inflammatory post
>>> >has any place on this  list.
>>> >
>>> >I'm not sure anyone here wishes to read it, and it's an  obvious personal
>>> >attack with legal implications. Just because you have  something in your
>>> >craw for Steve doesn't mean everyone here on list  wants to read or hear
>>> >about it. Your post is highly unprofessional and  perhaps illegal unto
>>> >itself. Please take personal and legal matters  offlist!
>>> >
>>> >Regards,
>>> >Eric
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On  4/2/2011 9:52 AM, MEM wrote:
>>> >> (NOTE: waste, fraud , and abuse of  public funds is a matter of public
>>>interest)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>  Steve,  If you were to ask, I am sure some folks here on the list would
>>>"rent"
>>> >> you some  meteorites-- Netflix-style-- you can swap out  every 2 weeks 
>>> >> and
>>>save
>>> >> all the
>>> >>
>>> >> hassle of  buying high and selling low.
>>> >>
>>> >> However I need to ask: are  you using your unemployment check again to 
>>> >> buy
>>> >> meteorites? We both  know the  Illinois Department of Labor doesn't look
>>>kindly
>>> >> on  using
>>> >>
>>> >> unemployment funds to purchase inventory for   business-activity--and 
>>> >> they
>>> >> consider buying and  selling
>>> >>
>>> >> business-activity whether declared or not.   In fact one isn't eligible 
>>> >> for
>>> >> unemployment if they run their own  business, and if it is an unlicensed
>>> >> business.  That gets into  the fraud arenaagain.
>>> >>
>>> >> One may not own/operate a  "business" while drawing unemployment
>>> >> compensation--and...well you  already know that don't you? You may not be
>>>earning
>>> >>
>>> >>  "wages" but you aren't unemployed, if you are buying and selling.  Some
>>>folks
>>> >> have
>>> >>
>>> >> the  the IDOL Fraud Hotline  on speed dial. The messages you post on the
>>>internet
>>> >>
>>> >>  are  evidence that you engage in buying and selling during times  of
>>> >> unemployment.
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't know the penalty of  a conviction on this but is it really worth 
>>> >> the
>>>risk
>>> >>
>>> >> and  given everything else you say is on your plate do you really want to
>>>take
>>> >> groceries money to spend $350-600 for something you will  eventually sell
>>>for
>>> >> $70-80 out of  desperation.
>>> >>
>>> >>  Elton
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> - Original  Message 
>>> >>
>>> >>> From: steve arnold
>>> >>>  To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>> >>>  Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 9:04:52 AM
>>> >>> Subject: [meteorite-list]  tatahouine
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Good morning list.Anyone have any  tatahouine available?Say in the 10 
>>> >>> to 20
>>>gram
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>  range and could give me a good deal?
>>> >>>   Steve R.Arnold,  Chicago!
>>> >>>
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[meteorite-list] New Park Forest House Smasher

[Bernd V. Pauli]

Hello Carl, Bill, and List,

"it would be worth less per gram the larger the size though"

I beg to differ ... at least in this specific case!

Just try to find any Park Forest meteorites for sale right now (of course, I 
don't
know if there are any private or anonymous sellers) from our well-known, 
reliable
sources, it's nearly impossible to find any offered online.

The "unreported" new house smasher is a different affair. It has a weird smell 
to it.
Such a hefty specimen would probably have made it into the media a long time ago
already.

But: a typical Park Forest individual will probably have certain tell-tale 
characteristics
that "Park Forest Experts" like Steve Witt, John Sinclair, Paul Sipiera, Steve 
Arnold,
Geoff Notkin et al. will readily recognize!

Around "2 or 3 pounds" sounds like that could be the 1006 gr Kolkebeck specimen 
(?)
which landed in the rain gutter (See: Meteorite, Aug 2003,Vol. 9, No.3, pp.  
08-14).

Best wishes,

Bernd


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[meteorite-list] [AD] Major Additions to the Aerolite Catalogue + Meteorite Hunting Book

[Notkin]

Dear Listees:

Greetings, and happy spring from Tucson, where it is already in the  
90s. Long, hot summer this year  : )



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I am happy to sign and/or personalize copies for List members. Just ask.


Thanks for reading and best wishes to all,

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Park Forest House Smasher

[Steve Witt]

Bill,

As little as you can.

Steve


Steve Witt
IMCA #9020
http://imca.cc/


--- On Sat, 4/2/11, bill kies  wrote:

> From: bill kies 
> Subject: [meteorite-list] New Park Forest House Smasher
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 4:08 PM
> 
> Please excuse me if this posts twice. I can't remember if
> the first post was in plain text.
>  
> Hi All,
>  
> I just got a call on a previously unreported PF house
> smasher. The owner says it weighs "around 2 or 3 pounds".
> Although I haven't looked at it yet, he says It came through
> his roof the night of the fall so I'm pretty sure it's
> genuine. I've never purchased a rock of that size and
> importance. 
>  
> My question to the collective is, what should I pay for it?
> I want to make a profit of course but I also want to be
> fair. 
>  
> Thanks,
> Bill
>  
>  
>  
> 
>      
> 
>       
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[meteorite-list] ??????

[Richard Montgomery]

I must say, the squabble is disappointing.  And, as a newcomer to this 
highly respected METEORITE discussion forum, I wonder what the squabble is 
intended to achieve.  More than once, in the small two years of me being 
honored to participate here, I've written some words intended to allow some 
re-focus away from the crap, back to why we are all engaged here.  Ususally, 
the banter and squabble eventually dies away, but come-on gang.


Hey, List, here's a toast to the METEORITE fun instead!

-Richard Montgoemry





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Re: [meteorite-list] [OT]Micrphotographs ???

[John Lutzon]

Richard and All,

Here, here to that. However, i started my toasting earlier, without you.

I recently came upon a microphotograph (slide) of Ernst Chladnis (by J. G. 
Bradbury) and would like to know if there are any similarities to a 
"regular" thin section. And, how are they made?
This may not be a meteorite question--but it sure beats the previous 
nonsense.


Thanks.
John
IMCA# 1896

- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Montgomery" 

To: "'Meteorite-list List'" 
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 9:43 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] ??


I must say, the squabble is disappointing.  And, as a newcomer to this 
highly respected METEORITE discussion forum, I wonder what the squabble is 
intended to achieve.  More than once, in the small two years of me being 
honored to participate here, I've written some words intended to allow some 
re-focus away from the crap, back to why we are all engaged here. 
Ususally, the banter and squabble eventually dies away, but come-on gang.


Hey, List, here's a toast to the METEORITE fun instead!

-Richard Montgoemry





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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - April 3, 2011

[Michael Johnson]

http://www.rocksfromspace.org/April_3_2011.html


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