Re: [meteorite-list] 99th Anniversary Holbrook Hunt

2011-07-19 Thread Robert Verish
Hello All,

Well, I've finally unloaded the truck and downloaded my camera images of our 
trip to the highly successful "99th Year Anniversary" Holbrook Meteorite Hunt.  
After Moni got home from work we stayed-up late last night reviewing all of the 
images.  I'm sure glad that Ben Fisler's son, Erik, is such a good 
photographer, and that they took time from finding all of those meteorites in 
order to record this "event".  Because, I think they'll be talking about this 
"group hunt" years from now.  But, if I want to make any more predictions, I 
should save them for a future article,
  

So, a big "THANK YOU" goes to Ruben Garcia (who is always the first person to 
volunteer to be host for any social gathering), for taking a casual comment 
about a "99 year anniversary" and to turn it into a fun, group meteorite hunt 
(not that Ruben needs an excuse to socialize).  And the same "Thank you" goes 
to Jim & Wendy Wooddell for their logistical support and managing of the daily 
(and nightly) activities, which insured a successful social event.

And to all of those who have taken the time to share their images and videos of 
the Holbrook Hunt with us, a big  "Thank you", as well.  Although this group 
hunt has been ably documented by many of those in attendance, I still wish I 
had taken more images while hunting in the strewnfield.  Especially of people 
making their very first meteorite find, because this only happens once in each 
finders lifetime.  And to be able to re-live this event (even vicariously) 
through its recording, would be reinvigorating to the soul of every meteorite 
hunter.

But I did record the group activities the evening before and after the Saturday 
hunt.  And that is what I would like to comment on here.  Upon arriving at the 
Motel 6 on Friday evening and entering into the central courtyard, it was as if 
we had registered for a symposium, because we encountered several dozen people 
standing around in small circles engaged in animated discussions (talking about 
meteorite-recovery).  All that was missing were the name-tags.  

A good percentage of these people had never found a meteorite, and a few had 
never gone on a meteorite hunt before coming to Holbrook.  Some of these 
neophytes had brought rocks they had found with the hope that one of the more 
experienced hunters would deem their "hopeful" as being a meteorite.  All of 
the others were intently listening, trying to learn why these meteor-wrongs 
were not meteorites.  The crowd around Ruben Garcia was particularly large.  It 
seemed like the meteor-wrong discussions were going to last all night.

Finally, almost out of desperation, Ruben brought out his collection of 
Holbrook stones and conducted an impromptu free-clinic on "Meteorite 
Identification".  I feel that Ruben's extra effort in educating, by conducting 
this class on meteorite ID, was a factor in the overall success of the hunt the 
next day.  After Ruben's free-seminar, conversations over dinner would be 
centered on meteorites.  After dinner, small groups would form to continue 
discussing various meteorite-related subjects long into the night.  

Then the next evening, even after a whole day of meteorite-hunting, everyone 
pitched-in to make the awards ceremony as memorable as making your first find.  
Jim and Wendy found the time to make Certificates of Achievement for all 47 
participants, as well as, the trophy awards, not the least of which was the 
award bestowed upon Ruben for his unique social skills which made possible this 
anniversary-hunt as a historical day in meteorite-recovery.

After Ruben accepted his award, he and Erik personally awarded each meteorite 
hunter with their Certificate, and in addition, if that person hadn't made a 
find that day, they were given an original Ruben Garcia genuine Holbrook 
meteorite along with limited-edition Mr.Meteorite ID Card & CoA (which were 
much larger than any of the fragments that I found)!!
By my count, there were 19 people who were presented with a Holbrook meteorite 
by Ruben!

As I mentioned earlier, I have some images from this event.  I plan on 
uploading those and making them available on-line at a later time.  Just wanted 
to add my 2yen and comment on some of the other activities that centered on the 
"99th Year Anniversary" Holbrook Meteorite Hunt.  

Bob V.
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[meteorite-list] 99th Anniversary Holbrook Hunt Video!
Jim Wooddell jimwooddell at gmail.com
Tue Jul 19 15:45:57 EDT 2011

Hi all!
I added /updated pictures of the Holbrook hunt!
They are in my Scrap Book under 7/16/2011
http://desertsunburn.no-ip.org

Jim Wooddell


On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Ruben Garcia  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Worked all day on the video - it's done!
> http://www.mr-meteorite.net/99thanniversaryhunt.htm
>
> Even if you are NOT a "meteorite hunter" type you may want to watch
> this video just to see how the largest 240 gram sp

Re: [meteorite-list] Photos of Holbrook Anniversary Hunt & Finds

2011-07-19 Thread Michael Mulgrew
List,

Please allow me to share my pictures from the weekend's hunt:
http://www.mikestang.com/holbrook2011.htm

-Michael in so. Cal.

-Original Message-
From: Sonny Clary 
To: Meteorite List 
Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 4:04 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Photos of Holbrook Anniversary Hunt & Finds

Hi Erik, ( Holbrook King )

Way to go! Great photo's and meteorite finds.

Sonny


-Original Message-
From: Erik Fisler 
To: Meteorite List 
Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 7:50 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Photos of Holbrook Anniversary Hunt & Finds
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[meteorite-list] New Iron (NOT Stoney iron)

2011-07-19 Thread Keith and Dana Jenkerson
Hello, all!

Everyone might want to read this before concluding that the Chinese
Meteorite is a stony iron, let alone a Fukang. This was translated by
google translation directly from the Beijing Evening News;

http://translate.google.com/translate?client=safari&hl=en&ie=UTF8&u=http://tech.sina.com.cn/d/2011-07-19/15475803876.shtml

The whole article is pretty interesting!

Cheers
Dana

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[meteorite-list] Fwd: Meteorite trip report

2011-07-19 Thread wahlperry


Hi List,

Thanks for all of the nice responses to my post. I would have to agree 
with Michael about how relaxing it can be wandering around out in the 
field enjoying the outdoors.


Thanks,Sonny




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[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites - Whitecourt and more for sale

2011-07-19 Thread wanderingstar
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[meteorite-list] AD: Great Auctions (Weds/20th) and Great Sale-See Highlights! You will miss these days....

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Hello,

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite trip report

2011-07-19 Thread Michael Mulgrew
Sonny, Ruben, Erik, et al:

Considering the vast majority of hunting expeditions don't yield
anything but sore feet and empty water bottles I love to see pictures
from the field regardless of what was found.  Something I've learned
in my brief history of looking for meteorites is that if you don't
enjoy wandering aimlessly in nature for hours on end then hunting
meteorites may not be for you.  The only thing that gets me out of the
field is the sun going down; maybe I should move close to the poles so
I can enjoy more hours of daylight?  There is something so zen and
peaceful about slowly walking around staring at the ground - I enjoy
the 10th hour in the field as much as I do the 1st.  I also enjoy
sharing pictures of my (unsuccessful) trips because I have to imagine
there are others out there like me, but who are not lucky enough to
have a huge desert in their back yard they can play in every weekend.

I wish you all the best of luck and thank you for sharing your
experiences with the rest of us.
-Michael in so. Cal.


On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Erik Fisler  wrote:
>
> Agreed,  I always enjoy reading the articles, hunts, stuff from NASA, photos 
> and
>
> small stuff people post.
> Usually I just skim past the boring debates and adds unless it's something 
> that
> interests me.  Not saying there should be any restriction on the two.
> I notice some people get "butt hurt" over being 'spammed' with the two.  
> That's
> what you get for having an email based system.  Email sucks! it's hard
>
> to sift through and you can't have categories like finds/articles/pressing
> issues/adds but it works great otherwise.  The list will evolve with 
> technology
> and people should just be happy they can sit on butt and connect with us all.
> That's an insane privilege.  It's like people complaining about turbulence on
> and airplane... You are sitting in a chair floating thousands of feet above 
> the
> earth, who cares if your chair shakes a little. lmao
>
> Anyway, I might not say anything but I enjoy reading everyone's material.
>
> [Erik]
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Ruben Garcia 
> To: Erik Fisler 
> Cc: Meteorite List 
> Sent: Tue, July 19, 2011 12:38:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite trip report
>
> Yup, he has found more than most and I really appeciate his efforts!
>
> I tell Sonny what I once told Mike Farmer  - I think a lot of people
> on this forum appeciate what he (and others like him) do even if they
> are quiet most of the time.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Erik Fisler  wrote:
> > Sonny, I always enjoy flipping through your site! It's like the meteorite
> recon
> > site but for Nevada!
> >
> > [Erik]
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message 
> > From: "wahlpe...@aol.com" 
> > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > Sent: Tue, July 19, 2011 8:07:23 AM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite trip report
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have posted  a couple of pictures on my web page from our recent meteorite
> > hunting expedition. Although we did not make any finds it was sure nice to
> have
> > spent time in the field.
> >
> > Sonny
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Trip_Report.html
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>
>
> --
> Rock On!
>
> Ruben Garcia
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Photos of Holbrook Anniversary Hunt & Finds

2011-07-19 Thread Moni Waiblinger

Thanks Eric for beating us to it!  ;-)


We had an absolute great time too!
Thank you Ruben for coming up with the idea for this event!
As we said we all want to do it over again next year!
Let's hope for lots of rain between now and then.

Thank you all of you who attended the gathering too for sharing your stories 
and images.
Bob
 would like to report our trip report in his next article in the 
meteorite-times (http://www.meteorite-times.com/category/bobs-findings/)
 
next month.

Happy hunting Bob V. and Moni






> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 00:04:48 -0700
> From: phxe...@yahoo.com
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Photos of Holbrook Anniversary Hunt & Finds
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> It was a pleasure to watch so many hunters make so many finds at Holbrook for 
> the group hunt!  I was very happy to be asked to help guide hunters for the 
> group hunt. I spent 5+ hours of my 19 hours in the field over 
> Friday/Saturday/Sunday instructing hunters on where to hunt and what to look 
> for 
> and I can say it was awesome watching them grin when I verified their finds.  
> Kudos to Jim and Ruben for doing most of the behind the scenes organizing for 
> the hunt.  There is a lot of patience involved with juggling 50 people and 
> those 
> who really listened walked away with the knowledge to find something that day 
> or 
> in the future.
> 
> My finds from Friday and through the morning Saturday consisted of 3 
> individuals, 2 fragments and a piece that was just fusion crust all for a 
> total 
> of less than 2 grams and my father was kicking my butt!!  After spending most 
> of 
> my morning driving back and forth from the hotel room to the strewn field and 
> guiding hunters I decided to pick up my father and the small group he had 
> taken 
> on a hunt.  He asked me where I wanted to hunt and I told him I had seen Moni 
> and Bob moving towards a flat in the middle of the north side and I wanted to 
> beat them too it so we headed to the spot I had my eye on with the family he 
> was 
> guiding and began to search.  That's when I found a few fragments with in a 
> few 
> centimeters from each other stuck in the clay on the surface.  I had my dad 
> drive the truck over so I could bring out the shovel and sieve, (as we had 
> plaid 
> the fragment game before).  A few people surrounded as I slowly and 
> carefully broke up the clay into the sieve.  I had about fifty grams in 
> fragments when my shovel clinked against a much bigger piece in the ground 
> and 
> everyone froze with excitement.  That's when I pulled out the 240 gram 
> piece It took about an hour and a half to recover the 160 grams in 
> fragments and the 240 gram stone for a total of a 400 gram find. As far 
> Holbrook 
> goes, besides Larry's whopper, I haven't heard of that big of a find in the 
> last 
> few decades.  Ontop of that Richard had another mongo find of 47 grams which 
> is 
> extremely rare for Holbrook in 2011. Together we have over 500 Holbrooks with 
> a 
> 90% of them individuals, average size 1-2 grams and before that point my 
> biggest 
> was 23 grams and my father had found one around 30+ grams. It amazes me that 
> there was a 400g find and a 47g find along with s many other stones all 
> found in the same day, regardless if there were fifty hunters or 1000 hunters.
> 
> Anywho... here is a link to the photos.  I uploaded them to my new Google+ 
> account which is linked to Picasa.  For those of you who don't know, Google+ 
> is 
> a networking site by Google that is still under testing and is only available 
> to 
> those invited by people who are testing it, for now anyway.  So if anyone 
> wants 
> to try Google+ shoot me an email and I'll shoot you an invite. Also since 
> this 
> is my first time using it to host an album it would be great if I got some 
> reviews on how easy/difficult and how good/bad it is to decide if I'll use it 
> again.
> 
> Photos: 
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/104550188270087713656/albums/5630939129597014113
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> [Erik]
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[meteorite-list] Unexpected Vesta News

2011-07-19 Thread Sterling K. Webb

http://www.aanda.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=735&Itemid=277&lang=en_GB.utf8%2C+en_GB.UT

"Astronomy & Astrophysics is publishing a new
study of the orbital evolution of minor planets
Ceres and Vesta, a few days before the Dawn
spacecraft enters Vesta's orbit. A team of astronomers
found that close encounters among these bodies
lead to strong chaotic behavior of their orbits,
as well as of the Earth's eccentricity. This means,
in particular, that the Earth's past orbit cannot
be reconstructed beyond 60 million years. Although
small, Ceres and Vesta gravitationally interact
together and with the other planets of the Solar
System...  these effects do not average out.
Consequently, the bodies leave their initial orbits
and, more importantly, their orbits are chaotic,
meaning that we cannot predict their positions...
Last but not least, Ceres and Vesta gravitationally
interact with the Earth, whose orbit also becomes
unpredictable after only 60 million years. This
means that the Earth's eccentricity, which affects
the large climatic variations on its surface, cannot
be traced back more than 60 million years ago."

Free acces to the full article can be found at:
http://www.aanda.org/index.php?option=com_article&access=doi&doi=10.1051/0004-6361/201117504&Itemid=129

Those sneaky minor, er,  dwarf planets! You can't
tell what they'll get up to next!


Sterling K. Webb




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[meteorite-list] NASA's Opportunity Tops 20 Miles of Mars Driving

2011-07-19 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-217  

NASA's Opportunity Tops 20 Miles of Mars Driving
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
July 19, 2011

More than seven years into what was planned as a three-month mission on
Mars, NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity has driven more than 20
miles, which is more than 50 times the mission's original distance goal.

A drive of 407 feet (124 meters) completed on July 17 took Opportunity
past the 20-mile mark (32.2 kilometers). It brought the rover to within
a few drives of reaching the rim of Endeavour crater, the rover's team's
long-term destination since mid-2008. Endeavour is about 14 miles (22
kilometers) in diameter, and its western rim exposes outcrops that
record information older than any Opportunity has examined so far. The
rover is now about eight-tenths of a mile (about 1.3 kilometers) from
the site chosen for arriving at the rim.

"The numbers aren't really as important as the fact that driving so much
farther than expected during this mission has put a series of exciting
destinations within Opportunity's reach," said Alfonso Herrera, a rover
mission manager at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
who has worked on the rover missions since before launch in 2003.

The latest drive included an autonomous hazard detection portion during
which the rover paused at intervals to check for obstacles before
proceeding.

Herrera said, "Autonomous hazard detection has added a significant
portion of the driving distance over the past few months. It lets us
squeeze 10 to 15 percent more distance into each drive."

The milestone-setting drive was on the 2,658th Martian day, or "sol," of
the rover's exploration of Mars. Opportunity drove backward. Backward
driving is a technique to extend the life of a motor in the right-front
wheel that sometimes draws more current than the other five wheels'
drive motors.

JPL's Bill Nelson, chief of the mission's engineering team, said,
"Opportunity has an arthritic shoulder joint on her robotic arm and is a
little lame in the right front wheel, but she is otherwise doing
remarkably well after seven years on Mars -- more like 70 in 'rover
years.' The elevated right front wheel current is a concern, but a
combination of heating and backwards driving has kept it in check over
the past 2,000-plus sols."

Opportunity and its rover twin, Spirit, completed their three-month
prime missions on Mars in April 2004. Both rovers continued for years of
bonus, extended missions. Spirit finished communicating with Earth in
March 2010. Both rovers have made important discoveries about wet
environments on ancient Mars that may have been favorable for supporting
microbial life.

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute
of Technology in Pasadena, manages the Mars Exploration Rover Project
for the NASA Science Mission Directorate, Washington. More information
about the rovers is online at: http://www.nasa.gov/rovers .

Guy Webster 818-354-6278
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
guy.webs...@jpl.nasa.gov

2011-217

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang

2011-07-19 Thread Count Deiro
From the photo depicting that rounded granitic overhang; the meteorite looks as 
if it had been moved to that position by glaciation.

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536

-Original Message-
>From: Greg Hupé 
>Sent: Jul 19, 2011 8:11 AM
>To: "Wadi & Woreczko Jan - www.woreczko.eu" , 
>meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang
>
>Now that is an amazing looking meteorite... Could you imagine walking up on 
>that out in the middle of nowhere?!
>
>Maybe time to take a little hike around the Chinese countryside... :)
>Wouldn't it be fun to be part of a huge discovery like that?!
>
>Greg
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message- 
>From: Wadi & Woreczko Jan - www.woreczko.eu
>Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 3:25 AM
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang
>
>Ha
>As with China, it must be large ;-)
>http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2011-07/19/content_12932999.htm
>Best wishes,
>Woreczko
>
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[meteorite-list] Teaching Aid for Meteorites

2011-07-19 Thread Pete Pete



Hi, All,

 

I came across this helpful NASA pdf for a game suitable for kids and media 
outlets wanting to learn about meteorites:

 

http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/549425main_ESS8_SpaceRocks_C8.pdf
http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/549425main_ESS8_SpaceRocks_C8.pdf
 

I know there are several Listees that give presentations.

 

Apologies if it's already been posted.

 

Cheers

  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Photos of Holbrook Anniversary Hunt & Finds

2011-07-19 Thread wahlperry

Hi Erik, ( Holbrook King )

Way to go! Great photo's and meteorite finds.

Sonny


-Original Message-
From: Erik Fisler 
To: Meteorite List 
Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 7:50 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Photos of Holbrook Anniversary Hunt & 
Finds



Thanks All!Jeff - I'm using the Canon XSi. It's not about the camera, 
it's about the lens.  I have a $1200 lens on a $300 camera!  I just 
bought the new Canon 100mm f/2.8L Macro USM.Don't make the mistake and 
fall for the megapixel trap.  Too many megapixels make for smaller 
pixels which makes for more grain! >:(   On a point and shoot, 3MP is 
perfect, anything more than 5MP is insane.On a consumer or Semi-Pro 
DSLR 8MP is perfect, anything more than 12MP is insane.On a Pro level 
DSLR 12MP is perfect, anything more than 22MP is insane.Problem is the 
marketing departments want you to think more MP = more definition.This 
ONLY matters when printing bigger than 8"x11" A good set up would be 
any basic Canon DSLR used in good condition or new. I know fashion 
photographers and even wedding photographers who have these basic entry 
level cameras and make $100k to $150k a year through photography with 
amazing photos. Remember, it's all about the lenses. So if you buy a 
camera just buy the BODY ONLY. because stock lenses suck.Examples:XT - 
(8MP)XS - (10MP) XSi - (12.2MP)T3 - (12.2MP)XTi - (10.1MP)T1i - 
(15.1MP)T2i - (18MP)   WAYYY TOOO MANYY PIXELS but HD video is worth 
purchase.T3i - (18MP)   WAYYY TOOO MANYY PIXELS but HD video is worth 
purchase.50D - (15.1MP)  <--- semipro body with sturdy magnesium form 
factor.Here are some nice lenses that would work for shooting finds and 
people too. I put stars next to my favorites. I've shot with all of 
these and read the reviews on them and every single one is amazing.- 
*Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L IS USM Macro- Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM- 
Canon EF 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro (Affordable)- *Canon 50mm f/1.4 
(Affordable, also sharpest, most fast focusing lens from Canon)- *Canon 
24-70mm f/2.8L  USM- Canon 24-105mm f/4L IS USM[Erik]- Original 
Message From: Jeff Kuyken To: Erik Fisler 
Sent: Tue, July 19, 2011 2:44:27 AMSubject: Re: 
Photos of Holbrook Anniversary Hunt & FindsHey Erik... awesome pics! 
What camera are you using?And if you're sending out invites, I'd love 
to give Google+ a try. I have google email at 
jkuy...@gmail.com.Cheers,Jeff- Original Message - From: "Erik 
Fisler" To: "Meteoritelist" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:04 
PMSubject: [meteorite-list] Photos of Holbrook Anniversary Hunt & 
Finds> Hello All,> > It was a pleasure to watch so many hunters make so 
many finds at Holbrook for> the group hunt!  I was very happy to be 
asked to help guide hunters for the> group hunt. I spent 5+ hours of my 
19 hours in the field over> Friday/Saturday/Sunday instructing hunters 
on where to hunt and what to look >for> and I can say it was awesome 
watching them grin when I verified their finds.> Kudos to Jim and Ruben 
for doing most of the behind the scenes organizing for> the hunt.  
There is a lot of patience involved with juggling 50 people and >those> 
who really listened walked away with the knowledge to find something 
that day >or> in the future.> > My finds from Friday and through the 
morning Saturday consisted of 3> individuals, 2 fragments and a piece 
that was just fusion crust all for a total> of less than 2 grams and my 
father was kicking my butt!!  After spending most >of> my morning 
driving back and forth from the hotel room to the strewn field and> 
guiding hunters I decided to pick up my father and the small group he 
had taken> on a hunt.  He asked me where I wanted to hunt and I told 
him I had seen Moni> and Bob moving towards a flat in the middle of the 
north side and I wanted to> beat them too it so we headed to the spot I 
had my eye on with the family he >was> guiding and began to search.  
That's when I found a few fragments with in a few> centimeters from 
each other stuck in the clay on the surface.  I had my dad> drive the 
truck over so I could bring out the shovel and sieve, (as we had 
>plaid> the fragment game before).  A few people surrounded as I 
slowly and> carefully broke up the clay into the sieve.  I had about 
fifty grams in> fragments when my shovel clinked against a much bigger 
piece in the ground and> everyone froze with excitement.  That's when I 
pulled out the 240 gram> piece It took about an hour and a half 
to recover the 160 grams in> fragments and the 240 gram stone for a 
total of a 400 gram find. As far >Holbrook> goes, besides Larry's 
whopper, I haven't heard of that big of a find in the >last> few 
decades.  Ontop of that Richard had another mongo find of 47 grams 
which is> extremely rare for Holbrook in 2011. Together we have over 
500 Holbrooks with a> 90% of them individuals, average size 1-2 grams 
and before that point my >biggest> was 23 grams and my father had found 
one around 30+ grams. It amaze

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite trip report

2011-07-19 Thread Erik Fisler
Agreed,  I always enjoy reading the articles, hunts, stuff from NASA, photos 
and 

small stuff people post.
Usually I just skim past the boring debates and adds unless it's something that 
interests me.  Not saying there should be any restriction on the two.
I notice some people get "butt hurt" over being 'spammed' with the two.  That's 
what you get for having an email based system.  Email sucks! it's hard 

to sift through and you can't have categories like finds/articles/pressing 
issues/adds but it works great otherwise.  The list will evolve with technology
and people should just be happy they can sit on butt and connect with us all.  
That's an insane privilege.  It's like people complaining about turbulence on
and airplane... You are sitting in a chair floating thousands of feet above the 
earth, who cares if your chair shakes a little. lmao

Anyway, I might not say anything but I enjoy reading everyone's material.

[Erik]


- Original Message 
From: Ruben Garcia 
To: Erik Fisler 
Cc: Meteorite List 
Sent: Tue, July 19, 2011 12:38:57 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite trip report

Yup, he has found more than most and I really appeciate his efforts!

I tell Sonny what I once told Mike Farmer  - I think a lot of people
on this forum appeciate what he (and others like him) do even if they
are quiet most of the time.



On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Erik Fisler  wrote:
> Sonny, I always enjoy flipping through your site! It's like the meteorite 
recon
> site but for Nevada!
>
> [Erik]
>
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: "wahlpe...@aol.com" 
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Tue, July 19, 2011 8:07:23 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite trip report
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have posted  a couple of pictures on my web page from our recent meteorite
> hunting expedition. Although we did not make any finds it was sure nice to 
have
> spent time in the field.
>
> Sonny
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Trip_Report.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] 99th Anniversary Holbrook Hunt Video!

2011-07-19 Thread Jim Wooddell
Hi all!
I added /updated pictures of the Holbrook hunt!
They are in my Scrap Book under 7/16/2011
http://desertsunburn.no-ip.org

Jim Wooddell


On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Ruben Garcia  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Worked all day on the video - it's done!
> http://www.mr-meteorite.net/99thanniversaryhunt.htm
>
> Even if you are NOT a "meteorite hunter" type you may want to watch
> this video just to see how the largest 240 gram specimen was found
> this last Saturday (July 16th, 2011)
>
> P.s. I just talked to Ben and Erik Fisler and they will be posting photos 
> soon!
>
> --
> Rock On!
>
> Ruben Garcia
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite trip report

2011-07-19 Thread Ruben Garcia
Yup, he has found more than most and I really appeciate his efforts!

I tell Sonny what I once told Mike Farmer  - I think a lot of people
on this forum appeciate what he (and others like him) do even if they
are quiet most of the time.



On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Erik Fisler  wrote:
> Sonny, I always enjoy flipping through your site! It's like the meteorite 
> recon
> site but for Nevada!
>
> [Erik]
>
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: "wahlpe...@aol.com" 
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Tue, July 19, 2011 8:07:23 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite trip report
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have posted  a couple of pictures on my web page from our recent meteorite
> hunting expedition. Although we did not make any finds it was sure nice to 
> have
> spent time in the field.
>
> Sonny
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Trip_Report.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite trip report

2011-07-19 Thread Erik Fisler
Sonny, I always enjoy flipping through your site! It's like the meteorite recon 
site but for Nevada!

[Erik]



- Original Message 
From: "wahlpe...@aol.com" 
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tue, July 19, 2011 8:07:23 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite trip report

Hi All,

I have posted  a couple of pictures on my web page from our recent meteorite 
hunting expedition. Although we did not make any finds it was sure nice to have 
spent time in the field.

Sonny





http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Trip_Report.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] Photos of Holbrook Anniversary Hunt & Finds

2011-07-19 Thread Erik Fisler
Thanks All!

Jeff - I'm using the Canon XSi. It's not about the camera, it's about the lens. 
 
I have a $1200 lens on a $300 camera!  I just bought the new Canon 100mm f/2.8L 
Macro USM.
Don't make the mistake and fall for the megapixel trap.  Too many megapixels 
make for smaller pixels which makes for more grain! >:(   

On a point and shoot, 3MP is perfect, anything more than 5MP is insane.
On a consumer or Semi-Pro DSLR 8MP is perfect, anything more than 12MP is 
insane.
On a Pro level DSLR 12MP is perfect, anything more than 22MP is insane.
Problem is the marketing departments want you to think more MP = more 
definition.
This ONLY matters when printing bigger than 8"x11" 

A good set up would be any basic Canon DSLR used in good condition or new. I 
know fashion photographers and even wedding photographers who have these basic 
entry level cameras and make $100k to $150k a year through photography with 
amazing photos. Remember, it's all about the lenses. So if you buy a camera 
just 
buy the BODY ONLY. because stock lenses suck.
Examples:
XT - (8MP)
XS - (10MP) 
XSi - (12.2MP)
T3 - (12.2MP)
XTi - (10.1MP)
T1i - (15.1MP)
T2i - (18MP)   WAYYY TOOO MANYY PIXELS but HD video is worth purchase.
T3i - (18MP)   WAYYY TOOO MANYY PIXELS but HD video is worth purchase.
50D - (15.1MP)  <--- semipro body with sturdy magnesium form factor.

Here are some nice lenses that would work for shooting finds and people too. I 
put stars next to my favorites. I've shot with all of these and read the 
reviews 
on them and every single one is amazing.

- *Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L IS USM Macro
- Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM
- Canon EF 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro (Affordable)
- *Canon 50mm f/1.4 (Affordable, also sharpest, most fast focusing lens from 
Canon)
- *Canon 24-70mm f/2.8L  USM
- Canon 24-105mm f/4L IS USM

[Erik]



- Original Message 
From: Jeff Kuyken 
To: Erik Fisler 
Sent: Tue, July 19, 2011 2:44:27 AM
Subject: Re: Photos of Holbrook Anniversary Hunt & Finds

Hey Erik... awesome pics! What camera are you using?

And if you're sending out invites, I'd love to give Google+ a try. I have 
google 
email at jkuy...@gmail.com.

Cheers,

Jeff

- Original Message - From: "Erik Fisler" 
To: "Meteoritelist" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:04 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Photos of Holbrook Anniversary Hunt & Finds


> Hello All,
> 
> It was a pleasure to watch so many hunters make so many finds at Holbrook for
> the group hunt!  I was very happy to be asked to help guide hunters for the
> group hunt. I spent 5+ hours of my 19 hours in the field over
> Friday/Saturday/Sunday instructing hunters on where to hunt and what to look 
>for
> and I can say it was awesome watching them grin when I verified their finds.
> Kudos to Jim and Ruben for doing most of the behind the scenes organizing for
> the hunt.  There is a lot of patience involved with juggling 50 people and 
>those
> who really listened walked away with the knowledge to find something that day 
>or
> in the future.
> 
> My finds from Friday and through the morning Saturday consisted of 3
> individuals, 2 fragments and a piece that was just fusion crust all for a 
total
> of less than 2 grams and my father was kicking my butt!!  After spending most 
>of
> my morning driving back and forth from the hotel room to the strewn field and
> guiding hunters I decided to pick up my father and the small group he had 
taken
> on a hunt.  He asked me where I wanted to hunt and I told him I had seen Moni
> and Bob moving towards a flat in the middle of the north side and I wanted to
> beat them too it so we headed to the spot I had my eye on with the family he 
>was
> guiding and began to search.  That's when I found a few fragments with in a 
few
> centimeters from each other stuck in the clay on the surface.  I had my dad
> drive the truck over so I could bring out the shovel and sieve, (as we had 
>plaid
> the fragment game before).  A few people surrounded as I slowly and
> carefully broke up the clay into the sieve.  I had about fifty grams in
> fragments when my shovel clinked against a much bigger piece in the ground and
> everyone froze with excitement.  That's when I pulled out the 240 gram
> piece It took about an hour and a half to recover the 160 grams in
> fragments and the 240 gram stone for a total of a 400 gram find. As far 
>Holbrook
> goes, besides Larry's whopper, I haven't heard of that big of a find in the 
>last
> few decades.  Ontop of that Richard had another mongo find of 47 grams which 
is
> extremely rare for Holbrook in 2011. Together we have over 500 Holbrooks with 
a
> 90% of them individuals, average size 1-2 grams and before that point my 
>biggest
> was 23 grams and my father had found one around 30+ grams. It amazes me that
> there was a 400g find and a 47g find along with s many other stones all
> found in the same day, regardless if there were fifty hunters or 1000 hunters.
> 
> Anywho... here is a link to the pho

[meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang

2011-07-19 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
Hi Tracy and List,

"This must predate the last bout of glaciation in the area;
 note how it has a huge terrestrial rock sitting on top of it."

... unless glacial forces were strong enough to move and/or push both the
terrestrial and the celestial "rock" simultaneously into this position.

Maybe the meteorite turned out to be an obstacle for this huge terrestrial
boulder and thus put an end to its voyage right on top of it.

Maybe the meteorite had already been sitting there and the glacial boulder
bumped into it and came to rest on it for thousands of years.

In this context, it might be interesting to find out if there are "scratches"
underneath the meteorite - in other words, it may have been moved or
pushed a certain distance from its original position by the boulder.

Anyway, just a few wild guesses ;-)

Bernd


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[meteorite-list] NASA Book Available For Visually Impaired To Learn About Moon

2011-07-19 Thread Ron Baalke


July 19, 2011

Dwayne Brown 
Headquarters, Washington 
202-358-1726 
dwayne.c.br...@nasa.gov 

Cathy Weselby 
Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. 
650-604-4789 
cathy.wese...@nasa.gov 


RELEASE: 11-236

NASA BOOK AVAILABLE FOR VISUALLY IMPAIRED TO LEARN ABOUT MOON

MOFFET FIELD, Calif. -- NASA has released a new book for visually 
impaired people to experience the wonders of the moon. 
Called "Getting a Feel for Lunar Craters," the 17-page book features 
Braille and tactile diagrams of the lunar surface, craters and peaks. 

The book was created and funded by NASA's Lunar Science Institute 
(NLSI), at Moffett Field, Calif. The author is David Hurd, a space 
science professor at Edinboro University of Pennsylvania in Edinboro, 
Pa. 

"This book is one giant step for humankind, making lunar science 
visible through touch and sound," NLSI Director Yvonne Pendleton 
said. "NASA is committed to the development of resources to bring 
lunar science into the world of those who cannot see." 

To obtain a free copy of "Getting a Feel for Lunar Craters," visit: 

http://lunarscience.nasa.gov/tactile 

NLSI is a virtual organization that enables collaborative, 
interdisciplinary research in support of NASA lunar science programs. 
The institute uses technology to bring scientists together around the 
world and comprises competitively selected U.S. teams and several 
international partners. NASA's Science Mission Directorate and the 
Exploration Systems Mission Directorate in Washington fund NLSI, 
which is managed by NASA's Ames Research Center at Moffett Field, 
Calif. For more information about the NLSI, visit: 

http://lunarscience.nasa.gov 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang

2011-07-19 Thread Sterling K. Webb

where I can find photos of Fukang main mass ?


http://www.meteorites4sale.net/Fukang_MM.jpg

Sterling K. Webb
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang



Hi
So if this china monster is similar to Fukang, where I can find photos 
of Fukang main mass ?

I missed this attraction in Tucson 2007  :((

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang

2011-07-19 Thread tracy latimer

This must predate the last bout of glaciation in the area; note how it has a 
huge terrestrial rock sitting on top of it.

Best!
Tracy Latimer

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> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:20:36 +0200
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang
> 
> oh my god, what a find !!!
> And look what they doing. Instead of transport this monster and then 
> inspect, they start from cutting it in different places, like kids that cant 
> wait to open their candys.
> But this photos are epic !!!
> 
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> > Ha
> > As with China, it must be large ;-)
> > http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2011-07/19/content_12932999.htm Best 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang

2011-07-19 Thread Marcin Cimala

Hi
So if this china monster is similar to Fukang, where I can find photos of 
Fukang main mass ?

I missed this attraction in Tucson 2007  :((

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[meteorite-list] Possible Fukang main mass

2011-07-19 Thread Matson, Robert D.
Hi All,

With the TKW going up by a factor of 25, I guess that means Fukang
prices will now go "in ruin". ;-)  All sales of Fukang are hereby
accelerated...  --Rob 

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Re: [meteorite-list] 99th Anniversary Holbrook Hunt Video!

2011-07-19 Thread Eric Wichman

Wow! Very cool. Great finds.

Eric


On 7/18/2011 6:37 PM, Ruben Garcia wrote:

Hi all,

Worked all day on the video - it's done!
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/99thanniversaryhunt.htm

Even if you are NOT a "meteorite hunter" type you may want to watch
this video just to see how the largest 240 gram specimen was found
this last Saturday (July 16th, 2011)

P.s. I just talked to Ben and Erik Fisler and they will be posting photos soon!


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang

2011-07-19 Thread Regine Petersen
>From google translate:

It is undeniable that this strange "stone" appearance also attracted the 
curiosity of the local people, said Zhang Baolin, now meteorites have been 
clear on the saw marks, and engraved the names of a dozen, some inscribed on 
1980. "In fact, high hardness, iron meteorite, saw a few in the above drawing, 
serrated on the disappeared."

Sounds intriguing. Does anyone have a better translation?
Regine



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> Von: karmaka 
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Datum: Dienstag, 19. Juli, 2011 16:27 Uhr
> Here you can read more information
> (in google-translation)
> 
> http://translate.google.de/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftech.qq.com%2Fa%2F20110719%2F000299.htm
> 
> original site: http://tech.qq.com/a/20110719/000299.htm
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: "Adam Hupe" 
> Gesendet: 19.07.2011 16:14:32
> An: Adam 
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang
> 
> >It looks like the Fukang main mass has just been found!
> 25 tons of Pallasite!
> >It will probably be chopped into little pieces,
> exported as iron ore to get
> >around Chinese law and put on the market soon judging
> from how they have managed
> >their resources in the past. Now, they will have real
> meteorite specimens to
> >offer instead of magnetite. It will be interesting to
> see how they deal with it
> >and its final disposition. In my opinion, it belongs in
> a museum but their
> >new-found love for capitalism will probably dictate
> otherwise.
> >
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[meteorite-list] 99th Anniversary Holbrook Hunt Video!

2011-07-19 Thread valparint
Great stuff, Ruben. I loved the train.

Paul Swartz
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang

2011-07-19 Thread Greg Hupé
Now that is an amazing looking meteorite... Could you imagine walking up on 
that out in the middle of nowhere?!


Maybe time to take a little hike around the Chinese countryside... :)
Wouldn't it be fun to be part of a huge discovery like that?!

Greg




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Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 3:25 AM
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang

Ha
As with China, it must be large ;-)
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2011-07/19/content_12932999.htm
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite trip report

2011-07-19 Thread wahlperry

Hi All,

I have posted  a couple of pictures on my web page from our recent 
meteorite hunting expedition. Although we did not make any finds it was 
sure nice to have spent time in the field.


Sonny





http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Trip_Report.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang

2011-07-19 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi Darryl and List,

You are correct but, to use your term, my disparagement comes from years of 
seeing iron ore being offered on eBay as genuine meteorites. It was so 
widespread that our thin market came up with the term "The China Syndrome."  
Don't get me wrong, I have respect for anybody including the Chinese who 
conduct 
themselves with integrity.  My problem is watching greed get in the way of 
ethics.

This is a sensitive subject for me since I almost lost a family member due to 
the widespread distribution of bogus Chinese produced medications that were 
placed on the American market.

Best Regards,

Adam






- Original Message 
From: Darryl Pitt 
To: Adam Hupe 
Cc: Adam 
Sent: Tue, July 19, 2011 7:32:49 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang




Hi Adam.List..

Methinks you're going much too far in your disparagement of the Chinese. 

As to specifics, I've exchanged words with a curator of meteorites in China 
regarding said specimen and your conjecture is unfounded.  This specimen is on 
the radar. 




All the best / Darryl





On Jul 19, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe wrote:

> It looks like the Fukang main mass has just been found!  25 tons of 
> Pallasite!  
>
> It will probably be chopped into little pieces, exported as iron ore to get 
> around Chinese law and put on the market soon judging from how they have 
>managed 
>
> their resources in the past.  Now, they will have real meteorite specimens to 
> offer instead of magnetite. It will be interesting to see how they deal with 
> it 
>
> and its final disposition.  In my opinion, it belongs in a museum but their 
> new-found love for capitalism will probably dictate otherwise.  
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang

2011-07-19 Thread Darryl Pitt



Hi Adam.List..

Methinks you're going much too far in your disparagement of the Chinese. 

As to specifics, I've exchanged words with a curator of meteorites in China 
regarding said specimen and your conjecture is unfounded.  This specimen is on 
the radar. 



All the best / Darryl





On Jul 19, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe wrote:

> It looks like the Fukang main mass has just been found!  25 tons of 
> Pallasite!  
> It will probably be chopped into little pieces, exported as iron ore to get 
> around Chinese law and put on the market soon judging from how they have 
> managed 
> their resources in the past.  Now, they will have real meteorite specimens to 
> offer instead of magnetite. It will be interesting to see how they deal with 
> it 
> and its final disposition.  In my opinion, it belongs in a museum but their 
> new-found love for capitalism will probably dictate otherwise.  
> 
> 
> Adam
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[meteorite-list] Canyon Diablo XRF Results

2011-07-19 Thread Jim Wooddell
Hi all!

I had a small Canyon Diablo shot and here are the results.  I do not
know how this compares to other results.  Jim Wooddell


XRF Test Report
Client: http://desertsunburn.no-ip.org
File Location:  Desertsunburn Yahoogroups
Item Description
Style No: Sample 246
Samples have been examined using x-ray fluorescence spectroscopy
(XRF), using a Niton XL3t XRF
analyzer equipped with a 50 kV x-ray tube. Results are only for samples tested.

Date: July 14, 2010
Quality Control: Calibration (Detector): 267 Calibration (Standard):
268 (plastic)
Calibration (Standard): 269 (metal)
Test No.: 271 Time: 296 seconds Mode: Metals & Minerals
Element Result
(ppm)
Cadmium ND < 20
Chromium ND < 148
Cobalt 7,199
Copper 403
Iron 797,500
Manganese ND < 336
Mercury 419
Nickel 59,100
Zinc 63
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang

2011-07-19 Thread karmaka
Here you can read more information (in google-translation)

http://translate.google.de/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftech.qq.com%2Fa%2F20110719%2F000299.htm

original site: http://tech.qq.com/a/20110719/000299.htm

Best regards

Martin


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: "Adam Hupe" 
Gesendet: 19.07.2011 16:14:32
An: Adam 
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang

>It looks like the Fukang main mass has just been found! 25 tons of Pallasite!
>It will probably be chopped into little pieces, exported as iron ore to get
>around Chinese law and put on the market soon judging from how they have 
>managed
>their resources in the past. Now, they will have real meteorite specimens to
>offer instead of magnetite. It will be interesting to see how they deal with it
>and its final disposition. In my opinion, it belongs in a museum but their
>new-found love for capitalism will probably dictate otherwise.
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Soltmany is first official fall of 2011

2011-07-19 Thread Chris Spratt

Hi Listers:

With the Solmany , my unofficial count is now up to 1097 
verified (published in the MetBul) falls.


Chris. Spratt
Victoria, BC

By the way there is one "unofficial" fall for 2005. The Montney 
BC Canada chondrite

fall of  July  17, 2005.

MONTNEY, British Columbia, Canada.
(Stony) Olivine-bronzite Chondrite - H6?
Fell July 17, 2005. (Hit a farm shed and tractor inside).

Small pieces were found by the farm owner Adeline Kelly. 
Specimen was verified by Alan Galley

of the Geological Survey of Canada.

 See the Edmonton Sun newspaper July 27, 2005.

 Montney lies north of Fort St. John, British Columbia, Canada.

TKW is only 0.15 Kilograms

CS
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang

2011-07-19 Thread Adam Hupe
It looks like the Fukang main mass has just been found!  25 tons of Pallasite!  
It will probably be chopped into little pieces, exported as iron ore to get 
around Chinese law and put on the market soon judging from how they have 
managed 
their resources in the past.  Now, they will have real meteorite specimens to 
offer instead of magnetite. It will be interesting to see how they deal with it 
and its final disposition.  In my opinion, it belongs in a museum but their 
new-found love for capitalism will probably dictate otherwise.  


Adam
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang

2011-07-19 Thread karmaka
It might even turn out to be a pairing of Armanty (Iron, IIIE ; found in Altay 
prefecture) or Fukang (Pallasite, PMG ; found just south of the Altay 
prefecture)
If it does turn out to be a stony-iron, this hints at Fukang.

I would like to know where exactly in the Altay prefecture of Xinjiang it was 
found.

Best wishes

Martin


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Von: "Wadi & Woreczko Jan - www.woreczko.eu" 
Gesendet: 19.07.2011 09:25:34
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang

>Ha
>As with China, it must be large ;-)
>http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2011-07/19/content_12932999.htm
>Best wishes,
>Woreczko
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang

2011-07-19 Thread actionshooting
No one had seen it before now???

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 "Wadi & Woreczko Jan - www.woreczko.eu"  wrote: 

=
Ha
As with China, it must be large ;-)
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2011-07/19/content_12932999.htm 
Best wishes,
Woreczko


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Re: [meteorite-list] Soltmany is first official fall of 2011

2011-07-19 Thread Jan Woreczko - www.meteoritica.eu

Ha
The whole story will be described in the next issue of METEORITE.
Best wishes,
Woreczko
http://wiki.meteoritica.pl/index.php5/So%C5%82tmany


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So how many falls does that give us?

Chris Spratt
(Via my iPhone)
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[meteorite-list] Australia’s Shoemaker Impact Structure

2011-07-19 Thread Paul H.
WORLD FROM SPACE Australia’s Shoemaker Impact Structure
by IWO, Irish Weather Online, July 19, 2011
http://www.irishweatheronline.com/features-2/world-from-space/world-from-space-australias-shoemaker-impact-structure/27381.html
http://www.irishweatheronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/ISS028-E-014782.jpg

Astronaut Photography of Earth - Display Record ISS028-E-14782
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/scripts/sseop/photo.pl?mission=ISS028&roll=E&frame=14782
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/sseop/images/EFS/lowres/ISS028/ISS028-E-14782.JPG

Shoemaker Impact Crater, Erath Observatory, NASA
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=4648

Shoemaker (formerly Teague), Earth Impact Database
http://www.passc.net/EarthImpactDatabase/shoemaker.html

Yours,

Paul H.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang

2011-07-19 Thread Marcin Cimala

oh my god, what a find !!!
And look what they doing. Instead of transport this monster and then 
inspect, they start from cutting it in different places, like kids that cant 
wait to open their candys.

But this photos are epic !!!

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Ha
As with China, it must be large ;-)
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2011-07/19/content_12932999.htm Best 
wishes,

Woreczko


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Re: [meteorite-list] Photos of Holbrook Anniversary Hunt & Finds

2011-07-19 Thread Regine Petersen
Absolutely amazing and nice photos, too!
Congratulations to all.

Regine


--- Erik Fisler  schrieb am Di, 19.7.2011:

> Von: Erik Fisler 
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Photos of Holbrook Anniversary Hunt & Finds
> An: "Meteoritelist" 
> Datum: Dienstag, 19. Juli, 2011 09:04 Uhr
> Hello All,
> 
> It was a pleasure to watch so many hunters make so many
> finds at Holbrook for 
> the group hunt!  I was very happy to be asked to help
> guide hunters for the 
> group hunt. I spent 5+ hours of my 19 hours in the field
> over 
> Friday/Saturday/Sunday instructing hunters on where to hunt
> and what to look for 
> and I can say it was awesome watching them grin when I
> verified their finds.  
> Kudos to Jim and Ruben for doing most of the behind the
> scenes organizing for 
> the hunt.  There is a lot of patience involved with
> juggling 50 people and those 
> who really listened walked away with the knowledge to find
> something that day or 
> in the future.
> 
> My finds from Friday and through the morning Saturday
> consisted of 3 
> individuals, 2 fragments and a piece that was just fusion
> crust all for a total 
> of less than 2 grams and my father was kicking my
> butt!!  After spending most of 
> my morning driving back and forth from the hotel room to
> the strewn field and 
> guiding hunters I decided to pick up my father and the
> small group he had taken 
> on a hunt.  He asked me where I wanted to hunt and I
> told him I had seen Moni 
> and Bob moving towards a flat in the middle of the north
> side and I wanted to 
> beat them too it so we headed to the spot I had my eye on
> with the family he was 
> guiding and began to search.  That's when I found a
> few fragments with in a few 
> centimeters from each other stuck in the clay on the
> surface.  I had my dad 
> drive the truck over so I could bring out the shovel and
> sieve, (as we had plaid 
> the fragment game before).  A few people
> surrounded as I slowly and 
> carefully broke up the clay into the sieve.  I had
> about fifty grams in 
> fragments when my shovel clinked against a much bigger
> piece in the ground and 
> everyone froze with excitement.  That's when I pulled
> out the 240 gram 
> piece It took about an hour and a half to recover
> the 160 grams in 
> fragments and the 240 gram stone for a total of a 400 gram
> find. As far Holbrook 
> goes, besides Larry's whopper, I haven't heard of that big
> of a find in the last 
> few decades.  Ontop of that Richard had another mongo
> find of 47 grams which is 
> extremely rare for Holbrook in 2011. Together we have over
> 500 Holbrooks with a 
> 90% of them individuals, average size 1-2 grams and before
> that point my biggest 
> was 23 grams and my father had found one around 30+ grams.
> It amazes me that 
> there was a 400g find and a 47g find along with s many
> other stones all 
> found in the same day, regardless if there were fifty
> hunters or 1000 hunters.
> 
> Anywho... here is a link to the photos.  I uploaded
> them to my new Google+ 
> account which is linked to Picasa.  For those of you
> who don't know, Google+ is 
> a networking site by Google that is still under testing and
> is only available to 
> those invited by people who are testing it, for now
> anyway.  So if anyone wants 
> to try Google+ shoot me an email and I'll shoot you an
> invite. Also since this 
> is my first time using it to host an album it would be
> great if I got some 
> reviews on how easy/difficult and how good/bad it is to
> decide if I'll use it 
> again.
> 
> Photos: 
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/104550188270087713656/albums/5630939129597014113
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> [Erik]
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Etching of large MORASKO

2011-07-19 Thread Marcin Cimala

Hi Bernd and all,

Nitric acid is bad stuff. It will stain your skin and should only be used 
with protective gloves and googles. It is a cancer causing material and 
extream caution should be used at all times with this acid.It also tends 
to explode when mixed with different items. Other than that, it is great 
for etching meteorites.


I have never any problems with nitric acid. For me it work excelent instead 
of other methods.


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[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]





--AL Mitterling

Quoting "Bernd V. Pauli" :


Michael kindly wrote: "Very nice video!"

Hello Michael and List,

Although it has been said many times before, we should put potential 
newbies,
who would like to etch an iron meteorite with nitol, on the alert: 
Please, be
careful and do wear protective gloves and goggles, because, and let me 
now
quote from our late R. Norton's Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites, p. 
255:


"When mixing ethanol/nitric acid solution great care should be taken to 
see that
the nitric acid is always poured *into the alcohol beaker, never  the 
reverse!


This prevents splattering of the acid as it is applied to the working 
solution.
(Working with concentrated nitric acid is dangerous and requires handling 
with extreme care.)*"


Wishing you a good night
from late night Germany,

Bernd



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[meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang

2011-07-19 Thread Wadi & Woreczko Jan - www.woreczko.eu

Ha
As with China, it must be large ;-)
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2011-07/19/content_12932999.htm 
Best wishes,

Woreczko


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[meteorite-list] Photos of Holbrook Anniversary Hunt & Finds

2011-07-19 Thread Erik Fisler
Hello All,

It was a pleasure to watch so many hunters make so many finds at Holbrook for 
the group hunt!  I was very happy to be asked to help guide hunters for the 
group hunt. I spent 5+ hours of my 19 hours in the field over 
Friday/Saturday/Sunday instructing hunters on where to hunt and what to look 
for 
and I can say it was awesome watching them grin when I verified their finds.  
Kudos to Jim and Ruben for doing most of the behind the scenes organizing for 
the hunt.  There is a lot of patience involved with juggling 50 people and 
those 
who really listened walked away with the knowledge to find something that day 
or 
in the future.

My finds from Friday and through the morning Saturday consisted of 3 
individuals, 2 fragments and a piece that was just fusion crust all for a total 
of less than 2 grams and my father was kicking my butt!!  After spending most 
of 
my morning driving back and forth from the hotel room to the strewn field and 
guiding hunters I decided to pick up my father and the small group he had taken 
on a hunt.  He asked me where I wanted to hunt and I told him I had seen Moni 
and Bob moving towards a flat in the middle of the north side and I wanted to 
beat them too it so we headed to the spot I had my eye on with the family he 
was 
guiding and began to search.  That's when I found a few fragments with in a few 
centimeters from each other stuck in the clay on the surface.  I had my dad 
drive the truck over so I could bring out the shovel and sieve, (as we had 
plaid 
the fragment game before).  A few people surrounded as I slowly and 
carefully broke up the clay into the sieve.  I had about fifty grams in 
fragments when my shovel clinked against a much bigger piece in the ground and 
everyone froze with excitement.  That's when I pulled out the 240 gram 
piece It took about an hour and a half to recover the 160 grams in 
fragments and the 240 gram stone for a total of a 400 gram find. As far 
Holbrook 
goes, besides Larry's whopper, I haven't heard of that big of a find in the 
last 
few decades.  Ontop of that Richard had another mongo find of 47 grams which is 
extremely rare for Holbrook in 2011. Together we have over 500 Holbrooks with a 
90% of them individuals, average size 1-2 grams and before that point my 
biggest 
was 23 grams and my father had found one around 30+ grams. It amazes me that 
there was a 400g find and a 47g find along with s many other stones all 
found in the same day, regardless if there were fifty hunters or 1000 hunters.

Anywho... here is a link to the photos.  I uploaded them to my new Google+ 
account which is linked to Picasa.  For those of you who don't know, Google+ is 
a networking site by Google that is still under testing and is only available 
to 
those invited by people who are testing it, for now anyway.  So if anyone wants 
to try Google+ shoot me an email and I'll shoot you an invite. Also since this 
is my first time using it to host an album it would be great if I got some 
reviews on how easy/difficult and how good/bad it is to decide if I'll use it 
again.

Photos: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/104550188270087713656/albums/5630939129597014113


Thanks!
[Erik]

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