[meteorite-list] Thin section company/opinions
Howdy list, I'm curious if anyone in the US has used National Petrographic Service Inc. (out of Texas) for creating thin slices of meteorites? I have a few meteorites that I would like a thin section of, but am not familiar with all the "extras" involved for a specimen. Any and all suggestions are welcomed about obtaining a thin slice specimen. Thanks for the help, Jason Jason Snyder Amateur Meteorite Hunter meteorsee...@cox.net __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Map, Sonic Boom; Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011
Hello Listers I took a look at the Radar bounce backs and at 21 min section I did also see three marks on the same time level. The first bleep if you want to call it that is at 18km the second is 20 km and the third is 22km in the same frame. I have been told and read that the flight of the meteor was SSE. Here is the link to the radar return http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262799@N03/6067811559/in/set-72157627101982105 But I am confused by the return, because the direction of the return is in an east ward direction and the elevation goes up in that manner. Also I check other elevations in that time section and no other returns. So I think that it might be a glitch of could be the real deal but I am thrown off by the elevation going up as it heads east. One would think it would go down and also the direction of the flight of the meteor and the radar returns dont match up. One is east and the other is SSE. But again, I am not a scientist, but can say this, let pray that we have meteorites :) and its a Lunar. And if thats the case, I wouldnt be buying any cause that will be s much money, but will be fun to watch how much people would be willing to pay. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] Map, Sonic Boom; Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011Ruben Garcia mrmeteorite at gmail.com Sun Aug 21 16:59:57 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Map, Sonic Boom; Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011 Next message: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky - a paper on its manufacture Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Doug and all, >From what I'm hearing there's not a real good chance of finding much. Unless, I see something being found I'll likely not go. On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:26 PM, MexicoDoug wrote: > Hey Ruben ! > > I thought those little guys looked familiar, but that's great ... Now you > *have* to go! The press is already with you and owes you one! Hope school > doesn't start for another couple of weeks in Phoenix ;-) The terrain is > great in that part of Ohio, and who knows - a metal detector may come in > handy too. > > Kindest wishes > Doug > > > > -Original Message- > From: Ruben Garcia > To: MexicoDoug > Cc: Meteorite List > Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 3:18 pm > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Map, Sonic Boom; Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. > 8, 2011 > > > Hi Doug, > > Thanks for posting this! I was pleasantly surprised to see my boys > Ruben Jr and Benjamin in the Ohio News video using metal detectors and > magnet canes! > > http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xklzie_meteorite-falls-in-ne-ohio_news > > They lifted their images from this very popular video we did a year ago. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4ARakSH-AE > > > > On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 11:37 AM, MexicoDoug wrote: >> > http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xklzie_meteorite-falls-in-ne-ohio_news >> >> Well, here is something more to prime everyone! >> >> Kindest wishes! >> >> Doug >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: MexicoDoug >> To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >> Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 4:02 am >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011 >> >> >> Mike F wrote: >> "when news of an amazing new meteorite breaks In the next couple of > > days, no >> >> one will give a crap." >> >> Mike, >> >> Don't bet or you will lose. Find some of these supposed meteorites > > and you >> >> can have 100 emails and customers lining up. >> >> http://kstp.com/news/stories/s2247463.shtml?cat=1 >> >> Phil already posted another note about the Ohio bolide. Is anyone > > serious >> >> working on it? >> >> Best luck in the field >> Doug >> >> PS, NASA's Men in Black led by Bill Cooke in Huntsville Alabama > > (NASA's >> >> Meteoroid Environments Office) are the ones getting the press to be >> contacted in case of finds of fragments: >> http://www.nasa.gov/offices/meo/home/index.html >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > > > -- > Rock On! > > Ruben Garcia > > Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net > Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ > Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.m
[meteorite-list] Green Meteor Seen over Florida 21AUG2011
Dear List, Florida Green Meteor 21AUG2011 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/08/mbiq-indicates-green-meteor-over.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky - a paper on its manufacture
Adam and List, (Sometimes garbage tells a good story...just ask the identity thieves.) In my case, I have a couple of Shiro pieces (bought as advertized as meteor-wrong) for the sole purpose of shoe-and-tell (pun intended) and educational purposes. Same with Putorano and Mendota...remember when Puto arrived on the scene (can I really write it that way, again pun intended?) This is, of course, to accentuate the true rarities and authentics of all the real ones. -Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: "Adam Hupe" To: "Adam" Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky - a paper on its manufacture Let me simplify the formula a little bit: 1970's era Junkyard Ford Fairlane FE 390 Big Block + Olivine + Fraudsters + High School Metal Shop = Shirokovsky Here is the big block link in case you want to get your hands on your own nickel-rich ataxite engine: http://www.cartechbooks.com/cartech/contentfiles/11.pdf Sorry, couldn't help myself. I can't believe all of the talk over this garbage, Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Bross To: Bob King ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky - a paper on its manufacture Hi Bob and list The analyses: Metallic powder, olivine etc... Iron: 78% Nickel:18.25% A general structure close to a pallasite The metallic powder structure shows that sintering was used (frittage) The powder was produced by atomization under gas. It is a manufactured "stone". So they decided to reproduce that "stone". They got something close to the Shirokovsky but didn't go further because of the money needed etc.. Their conclusion: manufactured product, mainly with metallic powder and sintering process All the best Michael B. From: Bob King Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:54 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky - a paper on its manufacture Hi everyone, I received this from a list member on Shirokovsky's origin. It's a French paper from 2005. Would anyone care to translate some of the key points? Thanks, Bob Dransart, E., and P. Guérin, 2005, Pseudo meteorite de shirokovsky. analyses metallurgiques et reconstitution metallo-pierreuse par la technique de la metallurgie des poudres [Pseudo meteorite shirokovsky metallurgical analyse and stone reconstitution trial by powder metallurgical process.] Observations & Travaux. vol. 61, pp. 2-9 (SAO/NASA Astrophysics Data System (ADS)) http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2005O&T612D __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Re: Cat Mountain on EBay
-Forwarded Message- >From: Count Deiro >Sent: Aug 21, 2011 6:50 PM >To: Jason Utas >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Cat Mountain on EBay > >Dear Utas, > >I am Count Guido Roberto Deiro, Lord of Selasco, Precorsano, Canavese and >Deiro Inferiore e Superiore. (Italian counties in the Region of Piedmonte, >Italy). I am a member of the Italian Royal House of Savoia (The exiled King of >Italy's household.) and hold the position of Guadia d'Honore del Tombe del Re. >(Thats one of the select noblemen who guards the Tomb of the King of Italy in >the Parthenon. (The oldest building in Rome.) Italy's George Washington. > >A public school in Salto Canavese, Torino, Italy has been named "L'Acadameia >d'Count Deiro" in my honor for my subscriptions and support in the >construction of the facility which serves over 500 grade school children in >the Valle d'Orco. > >I am a Knight Grand Cross and the Grand Chancellor of the Sovereign Dynastic >Order of St. John - Knights of Malta (One of the oldest orders of chivalry in >the world.). And a Knight Grand Cross of the Sovereign Military Order of St. >George. Both positions were aquired through a lifetime of work supporting >International Red Cross and Refugee Relief on four continents. These >investitures can only be made by a King, Queen, Prince or Princess. In my >case, HRH King Michael of Romania, HRH Prince Henri of France and HRH Eric von >Pappenheim of Germany. > >The Governor of the State of Nevada proclaimed that December 29th of each year >is to be known as "Count Deiro Day". The Governor of the State of Kentucky >commissioned me a Colonel in the State Guard. (The late Colonel Sanders was >also an officer.) The City of Las Vegas proclaimed me an "Outstanding Citizen" >and named a boulevard "Count Deiro Drive". These honors were granted in >recognition of my years of service to the less fortunate citizens of those >localities. > >Finally, I will only print the operative words in the Certificate of >Recognition from the United States of America. This Citation recognizes >certain services performed by me on behalf of this country " the citizens >of this country are forever grateful." Signed. Donald Rumsfeld - Secretary >of Defense. > >I wrote this self serving rant as a paen to your abject stupidity and lack of >social graces. You do not, even in this armpit of society, adress personages >of nobility and condition by their surnames. It is a huge insult. Akin to >calling you a "MF" or a "CS". And my surname is spelled "Deiro". Pronounced >"day-row" like in "dago" :0) > >I trust we will not meet in the future lest I swipe a glove across your >countenance! You have insulted me and I have a right to satisfaction. (Note, >Rolling Stones 1965). Before accepting and arranging the meetings of seconds, >you may wish to avail yourself of information concerning my ability with >swords and firearms. You will find that I am a Prevost d'Armes of the >International Academie d'Escrime in Foil, Epee' and Saber. Further, I am a >Certified NRA Instructor with ratings in Home Firearm Safety, Armed Personal >Defense, Refuse to be a Victim and Pistol. > >Nah...Jason and ListThis was all written for laughs...although it is >accuratebut really, it's not nice to insult, or beliitle people you don't >really know anything about. You may be surptised whose ox you have gored. > >Now, as to your fascination with the story of the recent Cat Mountain finds. >Why concern yourself? You aren't in a position to buy any of it.. and it's too >late now cause it's all gone! Gone... To happy campers. > >Regards, > >Guido > > > > > >-Original Message- >>From: Jason Utas >>Sent: Aug 20, 2011 10:20 PM >>To: Meteorite-list >>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Cat Mountain on EBay >> >>Hello All, >>Greg is correct; unless the meteorites have been found in a demarcated >>"dense collection area," they should not receive separate names. The >>Nomenclature Committee's policies regarding serial naming are rather >>clear -- and since the stones are apparently paired, I believe >>Franconia is the perfect analogy. Per existing regulations, these >>stones should not receive new names. >> >>If I am to understand correctly, someone of questionable integrity was >>involved with the recovery of the third stone. >> >>Since you failed to answer my question in private, Diero, I'll ask you >>here -- is that correct? >> >>Regards, >>Jason >> >> >> >>On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Greg Stanley >>wrote: >>> I would think each would be called Cat Mountain, if they are all classified >>> the same as the first one and were found in the same area, suggesting a >>> strewn field. There are no Franconia 002 or Gold Basin 002. I guess the >>> 'name' of a meteorite is one of a single stone or the strewn field. >>> >>> My few grams worth. >>> >>> Congratulations to all the finders of the new stones and to Count on >>> getting the classification done
[meteorite-list] Thika meteorite (Erythrina abyssinica)
OK, it's obvious: Congratulations to Mike Farmer on nailing the Thika, Kenya meteorite! SO WHAT TYPE IS IT?!! Kindest wishes Doug PS thanks to friends in Chicago for the link to facebook, I'll have to learn about facebook one of these days but am still here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McOGxK5JcEU#t=1m11s PPS Passionfruits are called pashena in swahili, not maracuya tricky Mike PPS 92 emails of beer on the wall, 92 emails of beer, one fell, what the hell, 91 emails of beer to go ... (he wants 100, I say give it to him) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky
This list is odd, I bet that when news of an amazing new meteorite breaks In the next couple of days, no one will give a crap. Let's see 100 posts on a 10 year old scam vs 10 or so on new fall. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Pete Pete wrote: > > > > With this crap currently selling for a minimum $1.00 US per gram, no doubt > the culprit(s) are wondering which engine block to melt next. > > > > In this case, crime seems to pay. > > > > Cheers, > > Pete > > > >> From: linton...@earthlink.net >> To: mexicod...@aim.com >> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 22:46:21 -0700 >> CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky >> >> Greetings listoids. >> Doug, I believe you've introduced an important distinction, upon which I've >> been intending on opining. Like you said, "a meteorwrong by most >> definitions is *natural* material than can be confused with an authentic >> meteorite out in the field." Shirokovsky, on the other hand, was a >> deliberate fake. A man-made concoction for the sole purpose of fraud. (Based >> on what I've read here.) I can understand the interest in a legitimate >> meteorwrong - I bought a piece of Mendota myself - but, in my opinion, >> Shirokovsky does not deserve to be in that category. I would be no more >> likely to purchase a sample, than to intentionally purchase counterfeit >> currency. It has about the same worth. >> But while I have to agree with Adam's point of view on this, I can somewhat >> understand the opposing views. Respect them, anyway. Interestingly though, >> most all of those in favor of collecting it, already have it in their >> collections. A case of "sour grapes", in reverse? ;^) >> Just my two cents. Actual value may vary. >> Linton >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "MexicoDoug" >> To: ; >> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:51 PM >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky >> >> >>> Adam wrote: >>> >>> "I see Shirokovsky as being off topic" >>> >>> I agree and would keep my mouth shut iof I thought it were an innocent >>> scam that was over and reparations made. >>> >>> Since I agree with Adam as such this will be my only post, since what is >>> on topic, interestingly, is clarifying that it is not a >>> eteorwrong*.. - a meteorwrong by most definitions is natural material >>> than can be confused with an authentic meteorite out in the field. This >>> is not that case, this is the case of the apple colored moldavites faked >>> on eBay. This is a *PSEUDOMETEORITE* and that term is doing it a favor, >>> and we should IMO all be very clear about that for the mutual benefit of >>> all of our collections and future material that could enter them. >>> >>> Shirokovsky may elicit the Pavlovian Dogs salivation in collectors that >>> haven't been soiled by it. You know - save that salivation for the real >>> stuff, Shirokovsky isn't even in the category of a blow-up meteorite doll. >>> There is nothing technologically interesting about Shirokovsky, the matrix >>> is nothing better than you can find in a cheap faux bead shop, and why >>> people think it would have an etch pattern is beyond me. The only reason >>> to have it is because when you drive by an accident on the highway and see >>> an accident with blood and guts, you have to stop and cause everyone else >>> a traffic jam as you gawk. And then you have to tell everyone else, yes, >>> look I have a piece of that corpse on the road, look at me! >>> >>> I wouldn't feel this way at all if the story were all closed and those who >>> have lost hundreds of thousands of dollars (yes, the amount is correct) >>> were ok and the crooks in jail. But the collective memory seems to mean >>> nothing even if we can learn from our past. Everything would be cool in >>> the collectible category if there were a fixed amount of Shirokovsky out >>> there. >>> >>> It is not all accounted for and it gives someone else the idea of >>> manufacturing other meteorites; why, instead of getting locked up for >>> stealing from several collectors and causing all kinds of business >>> heartache beyond the active imagination of many listmembers, the message >>> is clear. Make a Shitpkovsky fake, if you get caught, be nowhere to be >>> found and burn the people who trusted you, cause a great deal of >>> pollutuion that everyone else has to clean up (the equivalent of the Exxon >>> Valdez, and we all cleaned it up), and then appear 10 years later selling >>> more of it like war memorabilia from the dark side and getting people to >>> actually argue it is a good thing to have in collections. >>> >>> Huuumpt. I still remember being at a function 3 years ago where the big >>> meteorite dealer insisted to an ignorant crowd that his many Shirokovsky >>> pseudometeorites. He sold them for $25/g and many just three years ago >>> painted me as someone who didn't know since he was the expert (ha). >>> >>
Re: [meteorite-list] Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011
What makes you think I am talking about the Ohio meteorite? I have been a busy little beaver for the last 30 days:) Real news will breaking in hours Get your checkbooks out. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2011, at 11:02 AM, MexicoDoug wrote: > Mike F wrote: > "when news of an amazing new meteorite breaks In the next couple of days, no > one will give a crap." > > Mike, > > Don't bet or you will lose. Find some of these supposed meteorites and you > can have 100 emails and customers lining up. > > http://kstp.com/news/stories/s2247463.shtml?cat=1 > > Phil already posted another note about the Ohio bolide. Is anyone serious > working on it? > > Best luck in the field > Doug > > PS, NASA's Men in Black led by Bill Cooke in Huntsville Alabama (NASA's > Meteoroid Environments Office) are the ones getting the press to be contacted > in case of finds of fragments: > http://www.nasa.gov/offices/meo/home/index.html > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cat Mountain on EBay
Hello All, Greg is correct; unless the meteorites have been found in a demarcated "dense collection area," they should not receive separate names. The Nomenclature Committee's policies regarding serial naming are rather clear -- and since the stones are apparently paired, I believe Franconia is the perfect analogy. Per existing regulations, these stones should not receive new names. If I am to understand correctly, someone of questionable integrity was involved with the recovery of the third stone. Since you failed to answer my question in private, Diero, I'll ask you here -- is that correct? Regards, Jason On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Greg Stanley wrote: > I would think each would be called Cat Mountain, if they are all classified > the same as the first one and were found in the same area, suggesting a > strewn field. There are no Franconia 002 or Gold Basin 002. I guess the > 'name' of a meteorite is one of a single stone or the strewn field. > > My few grams worth. > > Congratulations to all the finders of the new stones and to Count on getting > the classification done. I also look forward to Rubin's article. > > Greg S > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 20, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Michael Mulgrew wrote: > >> Doug, >> >> I asked Bob Verish about this a few months ago. The MetBul does not >> show number designations, it recognizes two stones that make up the >> TKW for the Los Angeles meteorite. The 001 and 002 designations were >> internal to Mr. Verish for his own record keeping, but I believe he >> said (and I hope he'll chime in and correct me if I am mistaken) he >> used them publically a few times and without realizing it the number >> designation spread. >> >> -Michael in so. Cal. >> >> On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 12:13 PM, MexicoDoug wrote: >>> >>> ... >> >> >>> >>> Finally, can someone say why those incredible US Martians: LA001 and LA002 >>> got numbers if they are considered paired? Bob? There's no LA003 through >>> LA00n that I'm aware of ... Can a slice of one be distingueshed from >>> another? Are there other examples of unique / closed numbering? What ever >>> happened to the protocol of (a), (b), (c), ... >>> >>> Kindest wishes >>> Doug >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Kiumwiri Fall (Thika) - Kenya 16 Jul 2011
Other possible locality names for Thika: Kilimambogo, Yatta, Kakuzi, Kangundo From the University of Nairobi scientific note: "He says already scientists have so far concluded that it has components typical to those of other rocks on the earth's surface." Well - you might not think much of this comment, but you'd think if chondrules were evident it might be mentioned. Remembering, of course, that rocks on Earth's surface are essentially all achondrites as long as your aren't near meteorite collections ... http://allafrica.com/stories/201107210527.html Kindest wishes Doug PS there was a rumor going around that this was going to be as plentiful as Gao ! But never heard much about that either ;-( I didn't see much besides the 11 pound meteorite that landed in the Kiumwiri cornfield. , __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD Sale eBay store
Hello everyone, Just a note for anyone that is interested. I have some items marked down for today only. The black crusted 348 gram NWA 869 has been marked down to $118.00 today only, after this it's going back up or back into my collection. Have a look and thank you in advance. Warren Sansoucie http://stores.ebay.com/Resurrectio-Ad-Referendum?_rdc=1 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Map, Sonic Boom; Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011
Doug and all, >From what I'm hearing there's not a real good chance of finding much. Unless, I see something being found I'll likely not go. On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:26 PM, MexicoDoug wrote: > Hey Ruben ! > > I thought those little guys looked familiar, but that's great ... Now you > *have* to go! The press is already with you and owes you one! Hope school > doesn't start for another couple of weeks in Phoenix ;-) The terrain is > great in that part of Ohio, and who knows - a metal detector may come in > handy too. > > Kindest wishes > Doug > > > > -Original Message- > From: Ruben Garcia > To: MexicoDoug > Cc: Meteorite List > Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 3:18 pm > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Map, Sonic Boom; Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. > 8, 2011 > > > Hi Doug, > > Thanks for posting this! I was pleasantly surprised to see my boys > Ruben Jr and Benjamin in the Ohio News video using metal detectors and > magnet canes! > > http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xklzie_meteorite-falls-in-ne-ohio_news > > They lifted their images from this very popular video we did a year ago. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4ARakSH-AE > > > > On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 11:37 AM, MexicoDoug wrote: >> > http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xklzie_meteorite-falls-in-ne-ohio_news >> >> Well, here is something more to prime everyone! >> >> Kindest wishes! >> >> Doug >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: MexicoDoug >> To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 4:02 am >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011 >> >> >> Mike F wrote: >> "when news of an amazing new meteorite breaks In the next couple of > > days, no >> >> one will give a crap." >> >> Mike, >> >> Don't bet or you will lose. Find some of these supposed meteorites > > and you >> >> can have 100 emails and customers lining up. >> >> http://kstp.com/news/stories/s2247463.shtml?cat=1 >> >> Phil already posted another note about the Ohio bolide. Is anyone > > serious >> >> working on it? >> >> Best luck in the field >> Doug >> >> PS, NASA's Men in Black led by Bill Cooke in Huntsville Alabama > > (NASA's >> >> Meteoroid Environments Office) are the ones getting the press to be >> contacted in case of finds of fragments: >> http://www.nasa.gov/offices/meo/home/index.html >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > > > -- > Rock On! > > Ruben Garcia > > Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net > Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ > Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thika, Kenya Fall, July 16, 2011
What ever happened to this meteorite, ripe for the picking ... The little beavers haven't been busy enough! Kindest wishes Doug __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: [2] Map, Radar Returns; Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011
The map shown in the video is from the AMSMeteors.org website. I put a post up there last tuesday the day the info was released. The post has dark flight coordinates provided by Bill. I sent this out to the met list on tuesday, but i don't think it went out. http://www.amsmeteors.org/2011/08/alert-high-confidence-meteorite-fall-in-northeast-ohio/ Also just stumbled across this. http://www.wytv.com/mostpopular/story/NASA-Tracks-Aug-8-Meteor-to-Valley-Looking-for/MG6tmeEnTUqhe2e_cEiaog.cspx On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 3:06 PM, MexicoDoug wrote: > The Video got over 50 views (up from 4) since I posted it a few minutes ago > ;-) > > For anyone headed into the Youngstown OH area: > > Hermitage, OH > N 41D 14M; W 80D 26.5M > > Kinsman, OH > N 41D 26.5M; W 80D 35.5M > > The map in the video shows the bolide cloud on radar (on the video at 0:25), > that is more than enough to start the hunt. > > Kindest wishes and best luck > Doug > > -Original Message- > From: MexicoDoug > To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 2:37 pm > Subject: [meteorite-list] Map, Sonic Boom; Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, > 2011 > > http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xklzie_meteorite-falls-in-ne-ohio_news > > Well, here is something more to prime everyone! > > Kindest wishes! > > Doug > > -Original Message- > From: MexicoDoug > To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 4:02 am > Subject: [meteorite-list] Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011 > > Mike F wrote: > "when news of an amazing new meteorite breaks In the next couple of days, no > one will give a crap." > > Mike, > > Don't bet or you will lose. Find some of these supposed meteorites and you > can have 100 emails and customers lining up. > > http://kstp.com/news/stories/s2247463.shtml?cat=1 > > Phil already posted another note about the Ohio bolide. Is anyone serious > working on it? > > Best luck in the field > Doug > > PS, NASA's Men in Black led by Bill Cooke in Huntsville Alabama (NASA's > Meteoroid Environments Office) are the ones getting the press to be > contacted in case of finds of fragments: > http://www.nasa.gov/offices/meo/home/index.html > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky - a paper on its manufacture
Let me simplify the formula a little bit: 1970's era Junkyard Ford Fairlane FE 390 Big Block + Olivine + Fraudsters + High School Metal Shop = Shirokovsky Here is the big block link in case you want to get your hands on your own nickel-rich ataxite engine: http://www.cartechbooks.com/cartech/contentfiles/11.pdf Sorry, couldn't help myself. I can't believe all of the talk over this garbage, Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Bross To: Bob King ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky - a paper on its manufacture Hi Bob and list The analyses: Metallic powder, olivine etc... Iron: 78% Nickel:18.25% A general structure close to a pallasite The metallic powder structure shows that sintering was used (frittage) The powder was produced by atomization under gas. It is a manufactured "stone". So they decided to reproduce that "stone". They got something close to the Shirokovsky but didn't go further because of the money needed etc.. Their conclusion: manufactured product, mainly with metallic powder and sintering process All the best Michael B. From: Bob King Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:54 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky - a paper on its manufacture Hi everyone, I received this from a list member on Shirokovsky's origin. It's a French paper from 2005. Would anyone care to translate some of the key points? Thanks, Bob Dransart, E., and P. Guérin, 2005, Pseudo meteorite de shirokovsky. analyses metallurgiques et reconstitution metallo-pierreuse par la technique de la metallurgie des poudres [Pseudo meteorite shirokovsky metallurgical analyse and stone reconstitution trial by powder metallurgical process.] Observations & Travaux. vol. 61, pp. 2-9 (SAO/NASA Astrophysics Data System (ADS)) http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2005O&T612D __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: [2] Map, Radar Returns; Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011
My apologies. I was looking at 0:19 and not 0:25. Map does indeed show
radar returns.
Regards,
John
On 21/08/2011 14:30, "MexicoDoug" wrote:
>I haven't looked at the video since I posted it, but it wasn't a radar
>primary data (that is easy to download and fool with if you want ...
>the exact times are recorded). There are two points superimposed on
>the mentioned map showing the location of the radar returns according
>to whoever did it ("NASA"?).
>Kindest wishes
>Doug
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: John Hendry
>To: MexicoDoug ; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 3:25 pm
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: [2] Map, Radar Returns; Canada to
>Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011
>
>
>Is that picture at 0:25 not an all sky camera image rather than a radar
>screen?
>
>Regards,
>John
>
>On 21/08/2011 14:06, "MexicoDoug" wrote:
>
>>The Video got over 50 views (up from 4) since I posted it a few minutes
>>ago ;-)
>>
>>For anyone headed into the Youngstown OH area:
>>
>>Hermitage, OH
>>N 41D 14M; W 80D 26.5M
>>
>>Kinsman, OH
>>N 41D 26.5M; W 80D 35.5M
>>
>>The map in the video shows the bolide cloud on radar (on the video at
>>0:25), that is more than enough to start the hunt.
>>
>>Kindest wishes and best luck
>>Doug
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: MexicoDoug
>>To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 2:37 pm
>>Subject: [meteorite-list] Map, Sonic Boom; Canada to Ohio Event - Aug.
>>8, 2011
>>
>>http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xklzie_meteorite-falls-in-ne-ohio_news
>>
>>Well, here is something more to prime everyone!
>>
>>Kindest wishes!
>>
>>Doug
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: MexicoDoug
>>To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 4:02 am
>>Subject: [meteorite-list] Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011
>>
>>Mike F wrote:
>>"when news of an amazing new meteorite breaks In the next couple of
>>days, no one will give a crap."
>>
>>Mike,
>>
>>Don't bet or you will lose. Find some of these supposed meteorites and
>>you can have 100 emails and customers lining up.
>>
>>http://kstp.com/news/stories/s2247463.shtml?cat=1
>>
>>Phil already posted another note about the Ohio bolide. Is anyone
>>serious working on it?
>>
>>Best luck in the field
>>Doug
>>
>>PS, NASA's Men in Black led by Bill Cooke in Huntsville Alabama (NASA's
>>Meteoroid Environments Office) are the ones getting the press to be
>>contacted in case of finds of fragments:
>>http://www.nasa.gov/offices/meo/home/index.html
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>>http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: [2] Map, Radar Returns; Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011
I haven't looked at the video since I posted it, but it wasn't a radar
primary data (that is easy to download and fool with if you want ...
the exact times are recorded). There are two points superimposed on
the mentioned map showing the location of the radar returns according
to whoever did it ("NASA"?).
Kindest wishes
Doug
-Original Message-
From: John Hendry
To: MexicoDoug ; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 3:25 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: [2] Map, Radar Returns; Canada to
Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011
Is that picture at 0:25 not an all sky camera image rather than a radar
screen?
Regards,
John
On 21/08/2011 14:06, "MexicoDoug" wrote:
The Video got over 50 views (up from 4) since I posted it a few minutes
ago ;-)
For anyone headed into the Youngstown OH area:
Hermitage, OH
N 41D 14M; W 80D 26.5M
Kinsman, OH
N 41D 26.5M; W 80D 35.5M
The map in the video shows the bolide cloud on radar (on the video at
0:25), that is more than enough to start the hunt.
Kindest wishes and best luck
Doug
-Original Message-
From: MexicoDoug
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 2:37 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] Map, Sonic Boom; Canada to Ohio Event - Aug.
8, 2011
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xklzie_meteorite-falls-in-ne-ohio_news
Well, here is something more to prime everyone!
Kindest wishes!
Doug
-Original Message-
From: MexicoDoug
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 4:02 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011
Mike F wrote:
"when news of an amazing new meteorite breaks In the next couple of
days, no one will give a crap."
Mike,
Don't bet or you will lose. Find some of these supposed meteorites and
you can have 100 emails and customers lining up.
http://kstp.com/news/stories/s2247463.shtml?cat=1
Phil already posted another note about the Ohio bolide. Is anyone
serious working on it?
Best luck in the field
Doug
PS, NASA's Men in Black led by Bill Cooke in Huntsville Alabama (NASA's
Meteoroid Environments Office) are the ones getting the press to be
contacted in case of finds of fragments:
http://www.nasa.gov/offices/meo/home/index.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] Map, Sonic Boom; Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011
Hey Ruben ! I thought those little guys looked familiar, but that's great ... Now you *have* to go! The press is already with you and owes you one! Hope school doesn't start for another couple of weeks in Phoenix ;-) The terrain is great in that part of Ohio, and who knows - a metal detector may come in handy too. Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: Ruben Garcia To: MexicoDoug Cc: Meteorite List Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 3:18 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Map, Sonic Boom; Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011 Hi Doug, Thanks for posting this! I was pleasantly surprised to see my boys Ruben Jr and Benjamin in the Ohio News video using metal detectors and magnet canes! http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xklzie_meteorite-falls-in-ne-ohio_news They lifted their images from this very popular video we did a year ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4ARakSH-AE On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 11:37 AM, MexicoDoug wrote: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xklzie_meteorite-falls-in-ne-ohio_news Well, here is something more to prime everyone! Kindest wishes! Doug -Original Message- From: MexicoDoug To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 4:02 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011 Mike F wrote: "when news of an amazing new meteorite breaks In the next couple of days, no one will give a crap." Mike, Don't bet or you will lose. Find some of these supposed meteorites and you can have 100 emails and customers lining up. http://kstp.com/news/stories/s2247463.shtml?cat=1 Phil already posted another note about the Ohio bolide. Is anyone serious working on it? Best luck in the field Doug PS, NASA's Men in Black led by Bill Cooke in Huntsville Alabama (NASA's Meteoroid Environments Office) are the ones getting the press to be contacted in case of finds of fragments: http://www.nasa.gov/offices/meo/home/index.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: [2] Map, Radar Returns; Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011
Is that picture at 0:25 not an all sky camera image rather than a radar screen? Regards, John On 21/08/2011 14:06, "MexicoDoug" wrote: >The Video got over 50 views (up from 4) since I posted it a few minutes >ago ;-) > >For anyone headed into the Youngstown OH area: > >Hermitage, OH >N 41D 14M; W 80D 26.5M > >Kinsman, OH >N 41D 26.5M; W 80D 35.5M > >The map in the video shows the bolide cloud on radar (on the video at >0:25), that is more than enough to start the hunt. > >Kindest wishes and best luck >Doug > >-Original Message- >From: MexicoDoug >To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 2:37 pm >Subject: [meteorite-list] Map, Sonic Boom; Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. >8, 2011 > >http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xklzie_meteorite-falls-in-ne-ohio_news > >Well, here is something more to prime everyone! > >Kindest wishes! > >Doug > >-Original Message- >From: MexicoDoug >To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 4:02 am >Subject: [meteorite-list] Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011 > >Mike F wrote: >"when news of an amazing new meteorite breaks In the next couple of >days, no one will give a crap." > >Mike, > >Don't bet or you will lose. Find some of these supposed meteorites and >you can have 100 emails and customers lining up. > >http://kstp.com/news/stories/s2247463.shtml?cat=1 > >Phil already posted another note about the Ohio bolide. Is anyone >serious working on it? > >Best luck in the field >Doug > >PS, NASA's Men in Black led by Bill Cooke in Huntsville Alabama (NASA's >Meteoroid Environments Office) are the ones getting the press to be >contacted in case of finds of fragments: >http://www.nasa.gov/offices/meo/home/index.html >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky - a paper on its manufacture
Hi Bob and list The analyses: Metallic powder, olivine etc... Iron: 78% Nickel:18.25% A general structure close to a pallasite The metallic powder structure shows that sintering was used (frittage) The powder was produced by atomization under gas. It is a manufactured "stone". So they decided to reproduce that "stone". They got something close to the Shirokovsky but didn't go further because of the money needed etc.. Their conclusion: manufactured product, mainly with metallic powder and sintering process All the best Michael B. From: Bob King Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:54 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky - a paper on its manufacture Hi everyone, I received this from a list member on Shirokovsky's origin. It's a French paper from 2005. Would anyone care to translate some of the key points? Thanks, Bob Dransart, E., and P. Guérin, 2005, Pseudo meteorite de shirokovsky. analyses metallurgiques et reconstitution metallo-pierreuse par la technique de la metallurgie des poudres [Pseudo meteorite shirokovsky metallurgical analyse and stone reconstitution trial by powder metallurgical process.] Observations & Travaux. vol. 61, pp. 2-9 (SAO/NASA Astrophysics Data System (ADS)) http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2005O&T612D __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Map, Sonic Boom; Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011
Hi Doug, Thanks for posting this! I was pleasantly surprised to see my boys Ruben Jr and Benjamin in the Ohio News video using metal detectors and magnet canes! http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xklzie_meteorite-falls-in-ne-ohio_news They lifted their images from this very popular video we did a year ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4ARakSH-AE On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 11:37 AM, MexicoDoug wrote: > http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xklzie_meteorite-falls-in-ne-ohio_news > > Well, here is something more to prime everyone! > > Kindest wishes! > > Doug > > > -Original Message- > From: MexicoDoug > To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 4:02 am > Subject: [meteorite-list] Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011 > > > Mike F wrote: > "when news of an amazing new meteorite breaks In the next couple of days, no > one will give a crap." > > Mike, > > Don't bet or you will lose. Find some of these supposed meteorites and you > can have 100 emails and customers lining up. > > http://kstp.com/news/stories/s2247463.shtml?cat=1 > > Phil already posted another note about the Ohio bolide. Is anyone serious > working on it? > > Best luck in the field > Doug > > PS, NASA's Men in Black led by Bill Cooke in Huntsville Alabama (NASA's > Meteoroid Environments Office) are the ones getting the press to be > contacted in case of finds of fragments: > http://www.nasa.gov/offices/meo/home/index.html > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fwd: [2] Map, Radar Returns; Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011
The Video got over 50 views (up from 4) since I posted it a few minutes ago ;-) For anyone headed into the Youngstown OH area: Hermitage, OH N 41D 14M; W 80D 26.5M Kinsman, OH N 41D 26.5M; W 80D 35.5M The map in the video shows the bolide cloud on radar (on the video at 0:25), that is more than enough to start the hunt. Kindest wishes and best luck Doug -Original Message- From: MexicoDoug To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 2:37 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Map, Sonic Boom; Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xklzie_meteorite-falls-in-ne-ohio_news Well, here is something more to prime everyone! Kindest wishes! Doug -Original Message- From: MexicoDoug To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 4:02 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011 Mike F wrote: "when news of an amazing new meteorite breaks In the next couple of days, no one will give a crap." Mike, Don't bet or you will lose. Find some of these supposed meteorites and you can have 100 emails and customers lining up. http://kstp.com/news/stories/s2247463.shtml?cat=1 Phil already posted another note about the Ohio bolide. Is anyone serious working on it? Best luck in the field Doug PS, NASA's Men in Black led by Bill Cooke in Huntsville Alabama (NASA's Meteoroid Environments Office) are the ones getting the press to be contacted in case of finds of fragments: http://www.nasa.gov/offices/meo/home/index.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Map, Sonic Boom; Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xklzie_meteorite-falls-in-ne-ohio_news Well, here is something more to prime everyone! Kindest wishes! Doug -Original Message- From: MexicoDoug To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 4:02 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011 Mike F wrote: "when news of an amazing new meteorite breaks In the next couple of days, no one will give a crap." Mike, Don't bet or you will lose. Find some of these supposed meteorites and you can have 100 emails and customers lining up. http://kstp.com/news/stories/s2247463.shtml?cat=1 Phil already posted another note about the Ohio bolide. Is anyone serious working on it? Best luck in the field Doug PS, NASA's Men in Black led by Bill Cooke in Huntsville Alabama (NASA's Meteoroid Environments Office) are the ones getting the press to be contacted in case of finds of fragments: http://www.nasa.gov/offices/meo/home/index.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011
Mike F wrote: "new fall" Come on Mike - out with it! Been to France lately? Best wishes, Doug -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer To: MexicoDoug Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 1:21 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011 What makes you think I am talking about the Ohio meteorite? I have been a busy little beaver for the last 30 days:) Real news will breaking in hours Get your checkbooks out. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2011, at 11:02 AM, MexicoDoug wrote: Mike F wrote: "when news of an amazing new meteorite breaks In the next couple of days, no one will give a crap." Mike, Don't bet or you will lose. Find some of these supposed meteorites and you can have 100 emails and customers lining up. http://kstp.com/news/stories/s2247463.shtml?cat=1 Phil already posted another note about the Ohio bolide. Is anyone serious working on it? Best luck in the field Doug PS, NASA's Men in Black led by Bill Cooke in Huntsville Alabama (NASA's Meteoroid Environments Office) are the ones getting the press to be contacted in case of finds of fragments: http://www.nasa.gov/offices/meo/home/index.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Shirokovsky - a paper on its manufacture
Hi everyone, I received this from a list member on Shirokovsky's origin. It's a French paper from 2005. Would anyone care to translate some of the key points? Thanks, Bob Dransart, E., and P. Guérin, 2005, Pseudo meteorite de shirokovsky. analyses metallurgiques et reconstitution metallo-pierreuse par la technique de la metallurgie des poudres [Pseudo meteorite shirokovsky metallurgical analyse and stone reconstitution trial by powder metallurgical process.] Observations & Travaux. vol. 61, pp. 2-9 (SAO/NASA Astrophysics Data System (ADS)) http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2005O&T612D __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011
Marc Fries, Rob Matson are still the two I trust. They may be working on this right now. I'm still ready to roll On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 1:02 AM, MexicoDoug wrote: > Mike F wrote: > "when news of an amazing new meteorite breaks In the next couple of days, no > one will give a crap." > > Mike, > > Don't bet or you will lose. Find some of these supposed meteorites and you > can have 100 emails and customers lining up. > > http://kstp.com/news/stories/s2247463.shtml?cat=1 > > Phil already posted another note about the Ohio bolide. Is anyone serious > working on it? > > Best luck in the field > Doug > > PS, NASA's Men in Black led by Bill Cooke in Huntsville Alabama (NASA's > Meteoroid Environments Office) are the ones getting the press to be > contacted in case of finds of fragments: > http://www.nasa.gov/offices/meo/home/index.html > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky
So, does anyone know exactly who made this stuff? If not, do we have a general idea? Can anyone speak authoritatively on the origin of this material? Several veterans have claimed it was an intentional fraud, but nobody has explained exactly where/when this material showed up on the market, represented by whom, and what follow-up(s) were made to track down the source. Was law-enforcement contacted? And were the scammers publicly shamed/exposed for their crime? If we don't know exactly who made it, then can we really say (definitively) whether it was created as an intentional fraud or not? How do we know Shiro is not some accidental slag that a scammer found and then decided to fraudulently offer the material as a meteorite? I'm trying to defend a fake, just trying to better understand the story behind the material and what drives people to take such passionate stances against it. I can almost hear the vitriol dripping from Adam and Doug's statements about Shiro - I respect both of their opinions and I am now very curious about this material and what makes them so riled up about it. Do we know for certain it was intentionally created solely for fraudulent purposes? Or were the fraudsters merely being opportunistic when they chanced across Shiro? Best regards, MikeG PS - all sales of pallasitic engine blocks are hereby suspended until further notice. ;) -- - Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 8/21/11, Linton Rohr wrote: > Greetings listoids. > Doug, I believe you've introduced an important distinction, upon which I've > been intending on opining. Like you said, "a meteorwrong by most > definitions is *natural* material than can be confused with an authentic > meteorite out in the field." Shirokovsky, on the other hand, was a > deliberate fake. A man-made concoction for the sole purpose of fraud. (Based > on what I've read here.) I can understand the interest in a legitimate > meteorwrong - I bought a piece of Mendota myself - but, in my opinion, > Shirokovsky does not deserve to be in that category. I would be no more > likely to purchase a sample, than to intentionally purchase counterfeit > currency. It has about the same worth. > But while I have to agree with Adam's point of view on this, I can somewhat > understand the opposing views. Respect them, anyway. Interestingly though, > most all of those in favor of collecting it, already have it in their > collections. A case of "sour grapes", in reverse? ;^) > Just my two cents. Actual value may vary. > Linton > > - Original Message - > From: "MexicoDoug" > To: ; > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:51 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky > > >> Adam wrote: >> >> "I see Shirokovsky as being off topic" >> >> I agree and would keep my mouth shut iof I thought it were an innocent >> scam that was over and reparations made. >> >> Since I agree with Adam as such this will be my only post, since what is >> on topic, interestingly, is clarifying that it is not a >> eteorwrong*.. - a meteorwrong by most definitions is natural material >> than can be confused with an authentic meteorite out in the field. This >> is not that case, this is the case of the apple colored moldavites faked >> on eBay. This is a *PSEUDOMETEORITE* and that term is doing it a favor, >> and we should IMO all be very clear about that for the mutual benefit of >> all of our collections and future material that could enter them. >> >> Shirokovsky may elicit the Pavlovian Dogs salivation in collectors that >> haven't been soiled by it. You know - save that salivation for the real >> stuff, Shirokovsky isn't even in the category of a blow-up meteorite doll. >> >> There is nothing technologically interesting about Shirokovsky, the matrix >> >> is nothing better than you can find in a cheap faux bead shop, and why >> people think it would have an etch pattern is beyond me. The only reason >> to have it is because when you drive by an accident on the highway and see >> >> an accident with blood and guts, you have to stop and cause everyone else >> a traffic jam as you gawk. And then you have to tell everyone else, yes, >> look I have a piece of that corpse on the road, look at me! >> >> I wouldn't feel this way at all if the story were all closed and those who >> >> have lost hundreds of thousands of dollars (yes, the amount is correct) >> were ok and the crooks in jail. But the collective memory seems to mean >> nothing even if we can learn from our past. Everything would be cool in >> the collectible category if there were a
Re: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky
Wow. My innocent querry has really stirred up a hornet's nest! Interresting, though, to see how passsionate some of you are about this, especially Adam. I just wanted to see an etch and see if Iron and Nickle were thrown into the soup as seperate elements, or as one piece of melted alloy. If the manufacturer had claimed it was a terrestrial olivine-bomb, he may have got away with it. > From: meteoritesno...@hotmail.ca > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:58:47 -0400 > Subject: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky > > > Hello list. > > I am going to buy a piece of this meteor-wrong, but was wondering if anyone > had tried to etch it, and if so, what was the result? > > Cheers! > Craig Moody > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Canada to Ohio Event - Aug. 8, 2011
Mike F wrote: "when news of an amazing new meteorite breaks In the next couple of days, no one will give a crap." Mike, Don't bet or you will lose. Find some of these supposed meteorites and you can have 100 emails and customers lining up. http://kstp.com/news/stories/s2247463.shtml?cat=1 Phil already posted another note about the Ohio bolide. Is anyone serious working on it? Best luck in the field Doug PS, NASA's Men in Black led by Bill Cooke in Huntsville Alabama (NASA's Meteoroid Environments Office) are the ones getting the press to be contacted in case of finds of fragments: http://www.nasa.gov/offices/meo/home/index.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
