[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
NWA 2680 http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Phobos-Grunt Mars Probe Remains Silent in Earth Orbit
bummer.. I had high hopes for that mission. It's a loss for all of us. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service
Hi Anne and all, In the 23 plus years I have been dealing, I have business cards and contact information to over 500 suppliers. Some are not in the business any longer but have been replaced by many other new dealers. Figure in all the new dealers both full time and part time, dealer collectors, collectors who sale items after they upgrade, and older collections who are selling off specimens, and all the new desert dealers from the Africa and Asia areas and there are well over 1000 sources of specimens. Just want people to know there ARE other choices when it comes to buying specimens. Certainly IMCA has a lot to offer but there is a lot more out there also. If you are only buying IMCA then you might not be buying the best specimen out there at the best price as IMCA dealers aren't holding all the great specimens for sale. Even with the IMCA membership there have been problems recently. Some excellent dealers have elected to quit the IMCA because of these problems. To my knowledge anyone who has had a problem has had that problem resolved.Common sense and asking questions before you jump in would solve 90% of the problems both in and out of the IMCA. Best!! --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites Quoting impact...@aol.com: Thank you Darryl. About some 350 members is not a small part of the spectrum. I would also disagree with Your limiting access to impressive collection pieces if you only buy from IMCA dealers. I do believe you can find impressive Collection pieces with labels from TCU and ASU, among others, on my website and on Mike Bandli's site. And those are just the first 2 examples that came to mind. And no need for escrow service with IMCA members. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 11/13/2011 6:13:42 PM Mountain Standard Time, dar...@dof3.com writes: I don't know about merely occupying a small part of the spectrum;-) On Nov 13, 2011, at 5:38 PM, al mitt wrote: Greetings, While buying from IMCA members is a safe way to go, some of the largest and best known dealers are not members of the IMCA. Your limiting access to impressive collection pieces if you only buy from IMCA dealers. Best bet is to ask around about dealers you might be wanting to buy from. Stay away from dealers that are just getting into dealing as there is more risk with those dealers. Buy from well established dealers that have been in the business for years. Nothing against IMCA or their dealers but that is only a small part of the spectrum. Best! --AL Mitterling __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
wow Mirko, your slices an etchings are amazing. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Ebay auction, NWA 6438 Main Mass with 3.1cm vermicular matrix green inclusion...
Hello, ending soon, ebay aution for the NWA 6438 main mass... Classified as LL4, this meteorire contains a very, very big inclusion (3.1cm!) with amazing structure, can looks-like some angrite or Zagami-like martian (vermicullar, can be seen on the polished part and on the crust)... Primitive Ca/Mg-rich formation, very big chondrule, or something else? If anyone have an idea... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Meteorite-NWA-6438-NEW-LL4-BIG-Mg-Ca-rich-incl-/250929378303?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3a6c8e73ff And some other good stuff (and more common stuff) http://www.ebay.com/sch/wwmeteorites-25/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 Fabien Fabien Kuntz Météorites (ventes, expertise, conférences) Animation scientifique et technique WWMETEORITES (Siret : 511 850 612 00017) www.wwmeteorites.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Ebay auction, NWA 6438 Main Mass with 3.1cm vermicular matrix green inclusion...
Hello, ending soon, ebay aution for the NWA 6438 main mass... Classified as LL4, this meteorire contains a very, very big inclusion (3.1cm!) with amazing structure, can looks-like some angrite or Zagami-like martian (vermicullar, can be seen on the polished part and on the crust)... Primitive Ca/Mg-rich formation, very big chondrule, or something else? If anyone have an idea... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Meteorite-NWA-6438-NEW-LL4-BIG-Mg-Ca-rich-incl-/250929378303?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3a6c8e73ff And some other good stuff (and more common stuff) http://www.ebay.com/sch/wwmeteorites-25/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 Fabien Fabien Kuntz Météorites (ventes, expertise, conférences) Animation scientifique et technique WWMETEORITES (Siret : 511 850 612 00017) www.wwmeteorites.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of The Day
Onece again Mirko, you amaze us all with your quality etchings. David R Childs __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target!
Hello list! In line with the unseriousness of the experiment, perhaps you could toss a flashlight (on!) along with the meteorite, so you could prove that meteorites fall at the (same) speed of (the) light. :) Saludos Sanscelerien On 11/14/2011 02:59 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Hi Gang, I appreciate the comments and advice about caution when getting on the roof. I've done roofing work (when I was much younger and braver), and I get on roof occasionally to cut back overhanging limbs of a big oak we have right behind the house. But, the only suitable place to do this crazy experiment is a patch of yard, behind the house, privacy fenced off from the world - so my neighbors won't think I've lost my mind when they see me throwing rocks off the roof. The area of roof near that target patch of yard has a steep pitch and I'm not comfortable about trying this on that precarious part of the roof. So, I will not get on the roof. All of the target suggestions I am getting are being noted and taken into consideration. I've heard a couple of good ones and I will announce what the official target(s) may be. :) One last thought, on a more serious note - I always have the deepest respect for the special nature and meaning of meteorites. We are only temporary caretakers on their unthinkably-long voyage through space and time. They have moved through the cold vacuum of space for billions of years and have experienced violent collisions. There is no amount of abuse or shock I can put this meteorite through that it hasn't experienced before. And science isn't being hurt if one of probably 50,000 unclassified weathered H5 stones is hurled at a cake or globe, or whatever. I have been keeping copies of all the items being nominated and will be selecting one or more objects for destruction very soon. :) Best regards, MikeG __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Add Visual Appeal to Hammer Event
Ingredients: 20kg Campo (or larger) Big Trebuchet Boarded-up government housing project Could be a potential pay-per-view event with a plethora of souvenirs. I for one would enjoy the sight of a large airborne iron putting a smack-down on an apartment building. Call the pumpkin chunkers after next week's main event- they might enjoy working with a different medium. Happy hunting, Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] (no subject)
Note request below. If you can assist please contact the requester directly. Elton Meteorite paper request. Posted by: Ing. Yasmani Ceballos Izquierdo ycebal...@uci.cu Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:18 pm(PST) Hello friends, sorry for this request, but I need help, please if somebody have a pdf copy of this paper, please send me a copy. Please help me with: Solano y Eulate, D. J. M. 1872 Anales Soc. Espanola Nat. His. Madrid Volume 1 page 183 to 186 Noticia sobre un Hierro Meteorico hallado en el departamento oriental de la isla de Cuba Thanks in advance. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD nice meteorite for sale
Dear List members, I have a beautiful meteorites analyzed and classified by Dr. Carl Agee. it's a beautiful H-6 with fine threads of metal veining throughout. for pictures and price contact me at pyrolith...@yahoo.fr All the best, Abdelfattah. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Special Monday?Tusesday Aucitons Ending - 72 Items!!!
Dear List Members, I have my last set of special Monday night auctions ending later today and 54 auctions ending tomorrow night. In an effort to get away from auction style listings, I will be loading up my fixed-priced eBay store this week so you may want to take a look when you can find time. Don't worry, items will be reasonably priced. Link to all auctions: http://shop.ebay.com/raremeteorites!/m.html Thank you for looking and if you are bidding, good luck, Kind Regards, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection IMCA Member 2185 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] POP QUIZ ANSWER
Hello Listers and Listerites I would like to thank everyone that emailed their answers for POP QUIZ FRIDAYS. The question was.. What is the only common mineral found in ordinary chondrites that survives long term weather on Earth? Answer Chromite Chromite is a mineral that can withstand the times on Earth and in a since, acts as a time capsule, encasing silicates found in meteorites. This mineral allows scientists to examine decomposed meteorites, fossilized meteorites and other meteorites that have been stressed by the environments on Earth. I wonder if this mineral could be synthesized what applications scientists would use it for? I would like to congratulate Sean T for being the first Lister to send me in the correct answer because there was no luck number 7 Lister that submitted the correct answer. He will be receiving a free Almahata Sitta micro lot. Thank you Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay story http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS Shawn Alan photophlow at yahoo.com Fri Nov 11 16:57:21 EST 2011 * Previous message: [meteorite-list] Cleaning a heavy iron meteorite * Next message: [meteorite-list] Study Suggests Giant Planet Ejected From Our Solar System * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hello Listers and Listerites Today is another POP QUIZ FRIDAY installment The name of the GAME. Be the 7th Lister ( 7 is a lucky number for a lot of people) to email me off List with the correct answer and you will win a free ALMAHATA SITTA micro LOT, papers included. Question: What is the only common mineral found in ordinary chondrites that survives long term weather on Earth? Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay story http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html * Previous message: [meteorite-list] Cleaning a heavy iron meteorite * Next message: [meteorite-list] Study Suggests Giant Planet Ejected From Our Solar System * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ ANSWER
Chromite...I wonder if this mineral could be synthesized what applications scientists would use it for? It could be used to make stainless steel (chromium helps give stainless steel its 'stainless' quality. Synthesizing it would be only a lab exercise since there are enough rich chromite depoisits around the world. Kindest wishes, Doug -Original Message- From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Nov 14, 2011 3:33 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ ANSWER Hello Listers and Listerites I would like to thank everyone that emailed their answers for POP QUIZ FRIDAYS. The question was.. What is the only common mineral found in ordinary chondrites that survives long term weather on Earth? Answer Chromite Chromite is a mineral that can withstand the times on Earth and in a since, acts as a time capsule, encasing silicates found in meteorites. This mineral allows scientists to examine decomposed meteorites, fossilized meteorites and other meteorites that have been stressed by the environments on Earth. I wonder if this mineral could be synthesized what applications scientists would use it for? I would like to congratulate Sean T for being the first Lister to send me in the correct answer because there was no luck number 7 Lister that submitted the correct answer. He will be receiving a free Almahata Sitta micro lot. Thank you Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay story http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS Shawn Alan photophlow at yahoo.com Fri Nov 11 16:57:21 EST 2011 * Previous message: [meteorite-list] Cleaning a heavy iron meteorite * Next message: [meteorite-list] Study Suggests Giant Planet Ejected From Our Solar System * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hello Listers and Listerites Today is another POP QUIZ FRIDAY installment The name of the GAME. Be the 7th Lister ( 7 is a lucky number for a lot of people) to email me off List with the correct answer and you will win a free ALMAHATA SITTA micro LOT, papers included. Question: What is the only common mineral found in ordinary chondrites that survives long term weather on Earth? Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay story http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html * Previous message: [meteorite-list] Cleaning a heavy iron meteorite * Next message: [meteorite-list] Study Suggests Giant Planet Ejected From Our Solar System * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA Extends MESSENGER Mission
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/details.php?id=188 MESSENGER Mission News November 14, 2011 NASA Extends MESSENGER Mission NASA has announced that it will extend the MESSENGER mission for an additional year of orbital operations at Mercury beyond the planned end of the primary mission on March 17, 2012. The MESSENGER probe became the first spacecraft to orbit the innermost planet on March 18, 2011. We are still ironing out the funding details, but we are pleased to be able to support the continued exploration of Mercury, said NASA MESSENGER Program Scientist Ed Grayzeck, who made the announcement on November 9, 2011, at the 24th meeting of the MESSENGER Science Team in Annapolis, Md. The spacecraft's unprecedented orbital science campaign is providing the first global close-up of Mercury and has revolutionized scientific perceptions of that planet. The extended mission will allow scientists to learn even more about the planet closest to the Sun, says MESSENGER Principal investigator Sean Solomon, of the Carnegie Institution of Washington. During the extended mission we will spend more time close to the planet than during the primary mission, we'll have a broader range of scientific objectives, and we'll be able to make many more targeted observations with our imaging system and other instruments, says Solomon. MESSENGER will also be able to view the innermost planet as solar activity continues to increase toward the next maximum in the solar cycle. Mercury's responses to the changes in its environment over that period promise to yield new surprises. The extended mission has been designed to answer six scientific questions, each of which has arisen only recently as a result of discoveries made from orbit: 1. What are the sources of surface volatiles on Mercury? 2. How late into Mercury's history did volcanism persist? 3. How did Mercury's long-wavelength topography change with time? 4. What is the origin of localized regions of enhanced exospheric density at Mercury? 5. How does the solar cycle affect Mercury's exosphere and volatile transport? 6. What is the origin of Mercury's energetic electrons? Advancements in science have at their core the evaluation of hypotheses in the light of new knowledge, sometimes resulting in slight changes in course, and other times resulting in paradigm shifts, opening up entirely new vistas of thought and perception, says MESSENGER Project Scientist Ralph McNutt, of the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory in Laurel, Md. With the early orbital observations at Mercury we are already seeing the beginnings of such advancements. The extended mission guarantees that the best is indeed 'yet to be' on the MESSENGER mission, as this old-world Mercury, seen in a very new light, continues to give up its secrets. MESSENGER (MErcury Surface, Space ENvironment, GEochemistry, and Ranging) is a NASA-sponsored scientific investigation of the planet Mercury and the first space mission designed to orbit the planet closest to the Sun. The MESSENGER spacecraft launched on August 3, 2004, and after flybys of Earth, Venus, and Mercury will start a yearlong study of its target planet in March 2011. Dr. Sean C. Solomon, of the Carnegie Institution of Washington, leads the mission as Principal Investigator. The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory built and operates the MESSENGER spacecraft and manages this Discovery-class mission for NASA. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] What is Provenance?
List, Our hobby of collecting meteorites is strongly dictated by provenance so I ask ; which of the two primary definitions below most apply's to the collection of meteorites and why? Merriam-Webster Online dictionary defines provenance as (1) the origin, source. (2) the history of ownership of a valued object or work of art or literature. Origin; Ancestry, Parentage. Source; Point of origin or beginning. It seems to me that without having a bullet proof origin the history of ownership wouldn't mean much. And knowing where a meteorite comes from does indeed add to it's value. Once origin is scientifically proven then and only then does history of ownership play a role. It then actually plays a huge role. Back in 1991 I was asked to sell Gina Haag's collection of meteorites in my upscale Art Gallery. Gina Haag for those who are new to this hobby was Bob Haag's first wife. After their divorce Gina asked me to help her sell her material. With Bob's name associated with the collection it was very easy to sell the entire collection for her rather quickly. Back then there was no Internet and even Bob would sell material by Xerox copy's sent through the mail. He would trace the actual slice of the meteorite and add a brief description and mail it off to his list of collectors. I still have such lists as I used them as a price guideline for Gina's meteorites. They flew out of the gallery for two main reasons. The first was origin. People could not believe they could actually own a real piece of a falling star. And second was the fact that many people had seen Bob on TV pitching these rocks from space. Origin has two meanings in our collecting world. One is the origin in the universe and the next is the origin of where it was found on Earth. Both being of significant importance. This also helps us categorize the rocks. Unlike coins and most other collectibles condition plays a small role in the evaluation of meteorites. We tend to treat our rocks more like works of art and a rusty or ugly work of art is worth less than pristine beautiful samples but, origin still rules. I can only guess why American meteorites are worth so much more than ones found elsewhere. As with Art it might be because Americans have the most money to invest? This seems to be true of other art forms as well. I mean people pay more for work by Jackson Pollock (140 mil.) versus Picasso (100 mil) I think just because one is an American and the other is not. Similarly in our world people pay more when certain names are associated with the rocks. Nininger, Haag, Chadni, The Meteorite Men, TCU, ASU. etc. ... Falls vs. finds are another unique aspect of our hobby. This I understand as the falls add a great story to the collection. What I don't get is why people are willing to pay a premium price for an initial offering when they know from past experience that the price will likely fall once the initial excitement fades. Also people will pay more if it hit or killed something. Even the carcase's and otherwise damaged man made things are worth money and they are not even meteorites. Of course it goes back to origin. If it hit something it must be from space. No boubt a doubt it. And if the other origin is the moon the sky would be the limit to the value whereas a common type can be very affordable. So, it seems to me our best collections should be filled with not only scientificly verified material but also with labels from great sources. We have a very unique addiction here. Please share your thoughts. Thanks Carl meteoritemax -- Cheers __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: 40g Park Forest Meteorite recovered in Chicago Heights Illinois
This is the only Park Forest meteorite I know of that was recovered in Chicago Heights Illinois. The location where it was found seems to be outside of the strewnfield. If that's the case it could be a hammer that hitched a ride somehow and was transported to Chicago Heights. Whatever the case may be, the history of it's recovery is interesting. Here are a few pics. It's about 30-35% crusted and was recovered right after the fall. It doesn't appear to have been exposed to moisture. http://s1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee516/Billkies/40g%20Park%20Forest%20Meteorite/ I'll be taking offers for 10 days. Best offer owns it. Your satisfaction is of course, unconditionally guaranteed. The link below shows exactly where it was found. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/40gPF2515ChicagoRd.jpg Thanks, Bill Kieskowski Hazel Crest IL __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What is Provenance?
To me, provenance is the history of ownership. We know there was one Mooresfort stone, but to have a piece of the stone that can traced back to the likes of Charles Giesecke of the Dublin Society - that the particular sample passed through his hand - or in the case of Wold Cottage - to have a sample that once belonged to the famous chemist Friedrich Wohler, this is the essence of provenance to me, and in my case, it adds enormous value to the specimens. When I look at some of these samples in my possession, it provides inspiration for me to write some of my articles about the history of meteorites. Will everyone react the same way - no. Collecting autographs or meteorites is a very personal undertaking - collecting anything for that matter is - and what is important to one person, is secondary to another. So, for me, provenance is key. It's about the history of meteorites on Earth - how they were viewed, how they were traded, and how they were studied - or in many cases - not studied - by the scientists who had access to them. Just me two cents. Quick answer to a very thoughtful question. Mark Mark Grossman Meteorite Manuscripts. www.meteoritemanuscripts.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: cdtuc...@cox.net To: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 1:09 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] What is Provenance? List, Our hobby of collecting meteorites is strongly dictated by provenance so I ask ; which of the two primary definitions below most apply's to the collection of meteorites and why? Merriam-Webster Online dictionary defines provenance as (1) the origin, source. (2) the history of ownership of a valued object or work of art or literature. Origin; Ancestry, Parentage. Source; Point of origin or beginning. It seems to me that without having a bullet proof origin the history of ownership wouldn't mean much. And knowing where a meteorite comes from does indeed add to it's value. Once origin is scientifically proven then and only then does history of ownership play a role. It then actually plays a huge role. Back in 1991 I was asked to sell Gina Haag's collection of meteorites in my upscale Art Gallery. Gina Haag for those who are new to this hobby was Bob Haag's first wife. After their divorce Gina asked me to help her sell her material. With Bob's name associated with the collection it was very easy to sell the entire collection for her rather quickly. Back then there was no Internet and even Bob would sell material by Xerox copy's sent through the mail. He would trace the actual slice of the meteorite and add a brief description and mail it off to his list of collectors. I still have such lists as I used them as a price guideline for Gina's meteorites. They flew out of the gallery for two main reasons. The first was origin. People could not believe they could actually own a real piece of a falling star. And second was the fact that many people had seen Bob on TV pitching these rocks from space. Origin has two meanings in our collecting world. One is the origin in the universe and the next is the origin of where it was found on Earth. Both being of significant importance. This also helps us categorize the rocks. Unlike coins and most other collectibles condition plays a small role in the evaluation of meteorites. We tend to treat our rocks more like works of art and a rusty or ugly work of art is worth less than pristine beautiful samples but, origin still rules. I can only guess why American meteorites are worth so much more than ones found elsewhere. As with Art it might be because Americans have the most money to invest? This seems to be true of other art forms as well. I mean people pay more for work by Jackson Pollock (140 mil.) versus Picasso (100 mil) I think just because one is an American and the other is not. Similarly in our world people pay more when certain names are associated with the rocks. Nininger, Haag, Chadni, The Meteorite Men, TCU, ASU. etc. ... Falls vs. finds are another unique aspect of our hobby. This I understand as the falls add a great story to the collection. What I don't get is why people are willing to pay a premium price for an initial offering when they know from past experience that the price will likely fall once the initial excitement fades. Also people will pay more if it hit or killed something. Even the carcase's and otherwise damaged man made things are worth money and they are not even meteorites. Of course it goes back to origin. If it hit something it must be from space. No boubt a doubt it. And if the other origin is the moon the sky would be the limit to the value whereas a common type can be very affordable. So, it seems to me our best collections should be filled with not only scientificly verified material but also with labels from great sources. We have a very unique addiction here. Please share your thoughts. Thanks Carl
[meteorite-list] Ontario 9NOV2011 Event Captured - Rocks on the ground!
Dear List, Video of the Ontario, Canada event 9NOV2011: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/11/dryden-ontario-meteor-9nov2011.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
