Re: [meteorite-list] MURCHISON, On September 28, 1969 at 10:58 AM, near the town of Murchison, Victoria in Australia, a bright fireball was observed to separate into three fragmentsbeforedisappearing,

[W&S Schroer]

Hi list,
there will be 3 Murchison specimens (around 60 - 70 grams each) coming on 
the market in the near future.


For more info contact me off list, please.

Werner Schroer
Australia
IMCA #2101


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From: Richard Montgomery

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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] MURCHISON, On September 28, 1969 at 10:58 
AM,near the town of Murchison, Victoria in Australia,a bright fireball was 
observed to separate into three fragmentsbeforedisappearing, leaving a cloud 
of smoke.


STUNNING to the point of "wait, is this even possible???"   WOW

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the town of Murchison, Victoria in Australia,a bright fireball was observed
to separate into three fragmentsbefore disappearing, leaving a cloud of
smoke.


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[meteorite-list] request

[pshugar]

Hey list, I have a couple of requests.
Awhile back there was a photo of what
looked for all the world like a nail
with a head covered with flow line.
Would you mind sending me off list a
photo for a school presentation next
week.
I also need a concise rendition of the
Ensisheim story.
Many thanks,
Pete

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[meteorite-list] Ad - Tucson angrite sale

[Edwin Thompson]

Hi list members,

 

Patrick and I will arrive in Tucson on January 22nd and plan to set up and open 
by the 26th in suite #106 at the old Inn Suites hotel. We are going to be 
offering our D'Or angrite pieces at super low prices. We'll have pieces from 1 
gram to 1200 grams. Finally after all these years now is your chance to add a 
specimen of this spectacular angrite to your collection. We'll be selling it 
for a lot less than it has ever been offered for before. If your not going to 
Tucson or just wish to get a jump on the show feel free in inquire via email. 
We're home for a few more days.

 

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Re: [meteorite-list] MURCHISON, On September 28, 1969 at 10:58 AM, near the town of Murchison, Victoria in Australia, a bright fireball was observed to separate into three fragmentsbefore disappearing

[Richard Montgomery]

STUNNING to the point of "wait, is this even possible???"   WOW

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Subject: [meteorite-list] MURCHISON, On September 28, 1969 at 10:58 AM,near 
the town of Murchison, Victoria in Australia,a bright fireball was observed 
to separate into three fragmentsbefore disappearing, leaving a cloud of 
smoke.



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Re: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most significant fall of this century?

[Count Deiro]

I only know that there are papers published making the argument that certain 
SNC's and Alan Hills 84001 show evidence of fossilized life forms. There are 
other scientists who dispute this. Nakhla has the more compelling artifacts and 
is used more often to prove the hypothesis.

Regards,

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536


-Original Message-
>From: dorifry 
>Sent: Jan 12, 2012 2:15 PM
>To: Count Deiro , Galactic Stone & Ironworks 
>, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most significant 
>fall of this century?
>
>If life has been confirmed on Mars, wouldn't the President have called a 
>press conference?
>
>Phil Whitmer
>Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Count Deiro" 
>To: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" ; 
>
>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 4:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most 
>significant fall of this century?
>
>
>> Michael has asked:
>>
>>>Would it be safe to say, that the new Martian "Tata" fall is the most
>>>significant meteorite fall of the 21st century, and perhaps of the
>>>last 50+ years?
>>
>> Not even close, Mike if by century, you were referring to falls observed 
>> through the 1900's. Take Nakhla for example. Witnessed fall. Immediate 
>> collection by experts and responsible for stirring the fuel under that 
>> most famous of all Martian argumentsis there is, or is there was 
>> ..life on Mars. Chock full of fossilized nanobacteria, biomorphs and 
>> whatever else they found last month that is being written up at this 
>> writing.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Count Deiro
>> IMCA 3536
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>>From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks 
>>>Sent: Jan 12, 2012 9:09 AM
>>>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>>Subject: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most significant 
>>>fall of this century?
>>>
>>>Hi List,
>>>
>>>Would it be safe to say, that the new Martian "Tata" fall is the most
>>>significant meteorite fall of the 21st century, and perhaps of the
>>>last 50+ years?
>>>
>>>All things considered, this has the makings of a very significant
>>>event for science.  This is the most pristine sample of Mars to arrive
>>>in labs for a long time, if ever.  Even the freshest NWA finds cannot
>>>compare to fresh stones collected less than a year after the fall.
>>>The unbroken stones and larger fragments will supply science with
>>>unaltered, unoxidixed material for research.  This new Martian is
>>>going to be widely studied, so I hope everyone is getting their
>>>microprobes warmed up in anticipation.
>>>
>>>Word has it that institutions and museums have been allocated a
>>>sizeable amount of material in terms of trades and donations, so there
>>>appears to be plenty of it available for study.  It is safe to say
>>>that this new meteorite (whatever the official name turns out to be)
>>>will appear in a lot of papers and journals over time.
>>>
>>>For science, this is the next best thing to a manned sample-return
>>>mission.  For collectors this is best thing since sliced bread.  The
>>>only thing that could have made this fall better, from a collector's
>>>standpoint, is if a stone had bounced off a Bedouin tent and struck a
>>>camel in the hump.  But, you can't have your cake and eat it too.  ;)
>>>
>>>So, what is the going consensus on the details of this fall?
>>>
>>>Nickname - Tata or Foumzgit (mostly "Tata")
>>>
>>>TKW - several kilograms, probably less than 10kg.  Much of this is in
>>>the form of large whole stones and large broken stones and that
>>>material has been absorbed into collections and is not likely to
>>>return to the market.  Ballpark figure of material to be available
>>>eventually on the collector market is probably "a few kilos" (2-3kg?)
>>>
>>>Date of fall - July of 2011 (certain), actual date - July 25, 2011?
>>>Other reports say earlier in July (13-15?)
>>>
>>>Time of fall - day or night?  (night?)
>>>
>>>Type - Shergottite, shocked, silver-grey matrix with black shock
>>>veins.  Glossy fresh black fusion crust.
>>>
>>>Misc - witness reports include an audible explosion and popping sounds.
>>>
>>>Does all of that sound about right?
>>>
>>>
>>>*
>>>
>>>Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer)
>>>
>>>Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
>>>Facebook -  http://tinyurl.com/42h79my
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[meteorite-list] Mars Rover Opportunity Update: January 04-11, 2012

[Ron Baalke]

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html#opportunity

OPPORTUNITY UPDATE:  Studying Rock Target 'Amboy' - 
sols 2825-2832, January 04-11, 2012:

Opportunity is positioned for winter on the north end of "Cape York" on
the rim of Endeavour Crater.

The rover is tilted about 15 degrees to the north for favorable solar
energy production. Opportunity is conducting in-situ (contact) science
investigations of the rock target, "Amboy." The Mössbauer spectrometer
has been in place for several sols on Amboy. On Sol 2829 (Jan. 8, 2012),
the Microscopic Imager was used to make additional surveys of the target
with the Mössbauer being placed again on the same point. After some
image assessments, the robotic arm was used on Sol 2831 (Jan. 10, 2012),
to slightly reposition the Mössbauer.

Ongoing with the long Mössbauer integrations, Opportunity has been
conducting regular radio Doppler X-band tracking passes in support of an
experiment to measure the precession and nutation of the planet.
Opportunity has also been collecting color Panoramic Camera (Pancam)
images of the full 360-degree "Greeley" panorama from this site. The
plan ahead is more Mössbauer, more Pancam and more radio Doppler tracking.

As of Sol 2832 (Jan. 11, 2012), solar array energy production was 281
watt-hours with an atmospheric opacity (Tau) of 0.697 and a solar array
dust factor of 0.471.

Total odometry is 21.35 miles (34,361.37 meters).
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most significant fall of this century?

[dorifry]

If life has been confirmed on Mars, wouldn't the President have called a 
press conference?


Phil Whitmer
Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum
- Original Message - 
From: "Count Deiro" 
To: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" ; 


Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most 
significant fall of this century?




Michael has asked:


Would it be safe to say, that the new Martian "Tata" fall is the most
significant meteorite fall of the 21st century, and perhaps of the
last 50+ years?


Not even close, Mike if by century, you were referring to falls observed 
through the 1900's. Take Nakhla for example. Witnessed fall. Immediate 
collection by experts and responsible for stirring the fuel under that 
most famous of all Martian argumentsis there is, or is there was 
..life on Mars. Chock full of fossilized nanobacteria, biomorphs and 
whatever else they found last month that is being written up at this 
writing.


Best regards,

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536


-Original Message-

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks 
Sent: Jan 12, 2012 9:09 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most significant 
fall of this century?


Hi List,

Would it be safe to say, that the new Martian "Tata" fall is the most
significant meteorite fall of the 21st century, and perhaps of the
last 50+ years?

All things considered, this has the makings of a very significant
event for science.  This is the most pristine sample of Mars to arrive
in labs for a long time, if ever.  Even the freshest NWA finds cannot
compare to fresh stones collected less than a year after the fall.
The unbroken stones and larger fragments will supply science with
unaltered, unoxidixed material for research.  This new Martian is
going to be widely studied, so I hope everyone is getting their
microprobes warmed up in anticipation.

Word has it that institutions and museums have been allocated a
sizeable amount of material in terms of trades and donations, so there
appears to be plenty of it available for study.  It is safe to say
that this new meteorite (whatever the official name turns out to be)
will appear in a lot of papers and journals over time.

For science, this is the next best thing to a manned sample-return
mission.  For collectors this is best thing since sliced bread.  The
only thing that could have made this fall better, from a collector's
standpoint, is if a stone had bounced off a Bedouin tent and struck a
camel in the hump.  But, you can't have your cake and eat it too.  ;)

So, what is the going consensus on the details of this fall?

Nickname - Tata or Foumzgit (mostly "Tata")

TKW - several kilograms, probably less than 10kg.  Much of this is in
the form of large whole stones and large broken stones and that
material has been absorbed into collections and is not likely to
return to the market.  Ballpark figure of material to be available
eventually on the collector market is probably "a few kilos" (2-3kg?)

Date of fall - July of 2011 (certain), actual date - July 25, 2011?
Other reports say earlier in July (13-15?)

Time of fall - day or night?  (night?)

Type - Shergottite, shocked, silver-grey matrix with black shock
veins.  Glossy fresh black fusion crust.

Misc - witness reports include an audible explosion and popping sounds.

Does all of that sound about right?


*

Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer)

Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most significant fall of this century?

[Count Deiro]

Michael has asked:

>Would it be safe to say, that the new Martian "Tata" fall is the most
>significant meteorite fall of the 21st century, and perhaps of the
>last 50+ years?

Not even close, Mike if by century, you were referring to falls observed 
through the 1900's. Take Nakhla for example. Witnessed fall. Immediate 
collection by experts and responsible for stirring the fuel under that most 
famous of all Martian argumentsis there is, or is there was ..life on Mars. 
Chock full of fossilized nanobacteria, biomorphs and whatever else they found 
last month that is being written up at this writing.

Best regards,

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536  


-Original Message-
>From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks 
>Sent: Jan 12, 2012 9:09 AM
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most significant 
>fall of this century?
>
>Hi List,
>
>Would it be safe to say, that the new Martian "Tata" fall is the most
>significant meteorite fall of the 21st century, and perhaps of the
>last 50+ years?
>
>All things considered, this has the makings of a very significant
>event for science.  This is the most pristine sample of Mars to arrive
>in labs for a long time, if ever.  Even the freshest NWA finds cannot
>compare to fresh stones collected less than a year after the fall.
>The unbroken stones and larger fragments will supply science with
>unaltered, unoxidixed material for research.  This new Martian is
>going to be widely studied, so I hope everyone is getting their
>microprobes warmed up in anticipation.
>
>Word has it that institutions and museums have been allocated a
>sizeable amount of material in terms of trades and donations, so there
>appears to be plenty of it available for study.  It is safe to say
>that this new meteorite (whatever the official name turns out to be)
>will appear in a lot of papers and journals over time.
>
>For science, this is the next best thing to a manned sample-return
>mission.  For collectors this is best thing since sliced bread.  The
>only thing that could have made this fall better, from a collector's
>standpoint, is if a stone had bounced off a Bedouin tent and struck a
>camel in the hump.  But, you can't have your cake and eat it too.  ;)
>
>So, what is the going consensus on the details of this fall?
>
>Nickname - Tata or Foumzgit (mostly "Tata")
>
>TKW - several kilograms, probably less than 10kg.  Much of this is in
>the form of large whole stones and large broken stones and that
>material has been absorbed into collections and is not likely to
>return to the market.  Ballpark figure of material to be available
>eventually on the collector market is probably "a few kilos" (2-3kg?)
>
>Date of fall - July of 2011 (certain), actual date - July 25, 2011?
>Other reports say earlier in July (13-15?)
>
>Time of fall - day or night?  (night?)
>
>Type - Shergottite, shocked, silver-grey matrix with black shock
>veins.  Glossy fresh black fusion crust.
>
>Misc - witness reports include an audible explosion and popping sounds.
>
>Does all of that sound about right?
>
>
>*
>
>Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer)
>
>Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
>Facebook -  http://tinyurl.com/42h79my
>News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516
>Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
>
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[meteorite-list] Mystery Rock Pictures now up on webpage!

[Don Merchant]

Hi List. As many peeps requesting pics I decided to add a hidden page so you 
can all view. Here is the Link:

http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/mystery_rock.html?r=20120112161259

Thank you
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Re: [meteorite-list] MURCHISON, On September 28, 1969 at 10:58 AM, near the town of Murchison, Victoria in Australia, a bright fireball was observed to separate into three fragments before disappearin

[Darryl Pitt]

Hi, 

Gorgeous, gorgeous photo!!   Bravo, Regine.  Completely elegant. 







On Jan 12, 2012, at 2:35 PM, ROCKS FROM SPACE wrote:

> ROCKS FROM SPACE | METEORITES AND METEORITE HUNTERS 
> 
> http://www.rocksfromspace.org/murchison.html
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[meteorite-list] Mystery Rock....

[Don Merchant]

Hi List. Not being a geologist, I found a large rock the other day (2 lbs 
and a little bigger then the size of a fist) which seemed heavier then most 
that size I have come across and having brownish non-porous territorialized 
look. I took it home as I really wanted to know what the heck it is. Of 
course the first thing I did was test it with a neodymium magnet and it 
stuck to the rock, but it did not snap to the rock as if say like a solid 
iron rock. Still I could move and wobble the rock by waving the magnet over 
it. I then decided to use my metal detector and it would not register even 
when using "all metal" for detection...quite odd. I then decided to grind a 
small part of it just to see if maybe there might be visible chondrules. I 
ground that rock for about 7 minutes hard with a hand power grinder. It 
hardly ground off anything and I was using a grinding wheel used to cut or 
grind stainless! I did notice several small areas with what looked like 
black fusion crust but felt that since it did not cover a majority of the 
meteorite that it might of been just asphalt tar that may have attacked 
itself during its life. Digging deeper and leaning to the side that it is 
NOT a meteorite, I checked up on magnetite and or hematite and living up 
here in Upstate New York was not sure that those types were common in my 
area. Anyways...any one out there have any idea what type of Earth rock this 
could be for my own curiosity? I will take a few pics to those who would 
like to view it and or send it to someone who has a strong background in 
geology to kill the curiosity of the cat. One big thing I forgot to mention 
was that under a large magnifying glass that there were glitters of what 
look like or could be tiny crystals giving a diamond glitter look, which 
again would stray away as of meteorite origin. Would be nice if it was 
loaded with diamond!! Any thoughts!

Sincerely
Don Merchant
IMCA #0960 


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Re: [meteorite-list] MURCHISON, On September 28, 1969 at 10:58 AM

[Gary Fujihara]

Indeed, Marvin's Murchison is marvelously magnificent!

Sent from Gary's iPhone

On Jan 12, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Matthias Bärmann  wrote:

> 
> I agree with both of you, Tomasz, Bernd. Bravo, Murch, Brava, Regine.
> 
> Best,
> Matthias
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Bernd V. Pauli" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:56 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] MURCHISON, On September 28, 1969 at 10:58 AM
> 
> 
>> Tomasz wrote:
>> 
>> "Wow! Amazing piece! Thanks Michael for post ...
>> 
>> ... and special thanks to Regine for unveiling the inherent beauty
>> of this gorgeous Murchison through her outstanding photographic
>> skills!
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Bernd
>> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] MURCHISON, On September 28, 1969 at 10:58 AM

[Matthias Bärmann]

I agree with both of you, Tomasz, Bernd. Bravo, Murch, Brava, Regine.

Best,
Matthias


- Original Message - 
From: "Bernd V. Pauli" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:56 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] MURCHISON, On September 28, 1969 at 10:58 AM



Tomasz wrote:

"Wow! Amazing piece! Thanks Michael for post ...

... and special thanks to Regine for unveiling the inherent beauty
of this gorgeous Murchison through her outstanding photographic
skills!

Best wishes,

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[meteorite-list] MURCHISON, On September 28, 1969 at 10:58 AM

[Bernd V. Pauli]

Tomasz wrote:

"Wow! Amazing piece! Thanks Michael for post ...

... and special thanks to Regine for unveiling the inherent beauty
of this gorgeous Murchison through her outstanding photographic
skills!

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[meteorite-list] MURCHISON, On September 28, 1969 at 10:58 AM

[Tomasz Jakubowski]

Wow
Amazing piece!
Thanks Michael for post ...


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[meteorite-list] MURCHISON, On September 28, 1969 at 10:58 AM, near the town of Murchison, Victoria in Australia, a bright fireball was observed to separate into three fragments before disappearing, l

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[meteorite-list] ESA Coordinates International Satellite Reentry Campaign (Phobos-Grunt)

[Ron Baalke]

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Space_Debris/SEMJS2KX3XG_0.html

ESA coordinates international satellite reentry campaign
European Space Agency 
12 January 2012

An international campaign to assess the imminent atmospheric reentry of
Russia's Phobos-Grunt Mars craft is being coordinated by experts in
ESA's Space Debris Office. Participants include NASA and Roscosmos as
part of the 12-member Inter-Agency Space Debris Coordination Committee.
 
ESA experts are working with international partners in a coordinated
prediction campaign focused on Phobos-Grunt, a Russian Mars mission that
is expected to largely burn up in Earth's atmosphere in the next few days.

Phobos-Grunt was launched on 8 November 2011 into an initial Earth orbit
of 206 x 341 km. The injection into an Earth-escape trajectory to Mars
failed, and the spacecraft was declared lost by the Russian space
agency, Roscosmos, on 13 December.

On 2 January, a comprehensive reentry prediction campaign for
Phobos-Grunt was begun by the Inter-Agency Space Debris Coordination
Committee (IADC), a technical forum for the worldwide coordination of
activities related to human-made and natural debris in space.  
 
ESOC in Darmstadt hosts reentry database
 
ESA's Space Debris Office, located at ESOC, the European Space
Operations Centre, Darmstadt, Germany, hosts the IADC reentry event
database that is used to exchange orbit data and reentry predictions
among IADC members.
 
Orbit data for Phobos-Grunt are provided mainly by the US Space
Surveillance Network and the Russian Space Surveillance System. In
addition, European radars based in Germany and France are also providing
orbit calculations. Based on this, ESA is issuing reentry prediction
bulletins to its Members States.

According to its Russian owners, Phobos-Grunt has a mass of 13.5 tonnes,
including about 11 tonnes of propellant, and a body size of 3.76 x 3.76
x 6.38 m, with solar wings spanning 7.97 m.
 
Large number of uncertainties affect reentry
 
"Right now, due to the large number of uncertainties in the orbit and
space environment affecting the satellite, the indications are that
Phobos-Grunt could reenter between 13 and 17 January, between 51.4°N and
51.4°S," says Prof. Heiner Klinkrad, Head of ESA's Space Debris Office.

He adds that this window will shorten as we approach reentry.

"Analyses by Roscosmos and NASA indicate that the fuel tanks, filled
with unsymmetrical dimethylhydrazine - referred to as UDMH - will burst
above 100 km altitude, release the propellant and largely demise
thereafter."

"This, combined with a relatively low dry mass of just 2.5 tonnes, means
that Phobos-Grunt is not considered to be a high-risk reentry object."

"Roscosmos expects that at most, some 20 to 30 fragments may reach
Earth's surface, with a total mass of less than 200 kg."

Since the beginning of the space age, there has been no confirmed report
of an injury resulting from reentering space objects.
 
IADC assesses potentially hazardous reentries
 
In recent years, IADC members have developed a data exchange network
specifically supporting the assessment of potentially hazardous
reentries, which allows members to enter and extract orbit data in order
to refine reentry predictions.
 
IADC member agencies include ESA, NASA, European national agencies and
the Russian, Chinese, Canadian, Japanese, Ukrainian and Indian space
agencies.

Results from the Phobos-Grunt reentry campaign will be used by IADC
members to improve reentry models and make future predictions more accurate.
 
Enhancing Europe's observation capacity
 
In 2009, ESA launched the Space Situational Awareness Preparatory
Programme, which, in part, aims to design a network of surveillance and
tracking systems and novel data processing technologies that will enable
Europe to build up a complete catalogue of orbiting objects.

This system will provide highly accurate data to reduce the threat from
on-orbit collisions and improve predictions of where and when
uncontrolled satellite re-entries could occur.
 
 
Contact
 
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[meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most significant fall of this century?

[Galactic Stone & Ironworks]

Hi List,

Would it be safe to say, that the new Martian "Tata" fall is the most
significant meteorite fall of the 21st century, and perhaps of the
last 50+ years?

All things considered, this has the makings of a very significant
event for science.  This is the most pristine sample of Mars to arrive
in labs for a long time, if ever.  Even the freshest NWA finds cannot
compare to fresh stones collected less than a year after the fall.
The unbroken stones and larger fragments will supply science with
unaltered, unoxidixed material for research.  This new Martian is
going to be widely studied, so I hope everyone is getting their
microprobes warmed up in anticipation.

Word has it that institutions and museums have been allocated a
sizeable amount of material in terms of trades and donations, so there
appears to be plenty of it available for study.  It is safe to say
that this new meteorite (whatever the official name turns out to be)
will appear in a lot of papers and journals over time.

For science, this is the next best thing to a manned sample-return
mission.  For collectors this is best thing since sliced bread.  The
only thing that could have made this fall better, from a collector's
standpoint, is if a stone had bounced off a Bedouin tent and struck a
camel in the hump.  But, you can't have your cake and eat it too.  ;)

So, what is the going consensus on the details of this fall?

Nickname - Tata or Foumzgit (mostly "Tata")

TKW - several kilograms, probably less than 10kg.  Much of this is in
the form of large whole stones and large broken stones and that
material has been absorbed into collections and is not likely to
return to the market.  Ballpark figure of material to be available
eventually on the collector market is probably "a few kilos" (2-3kg?)

Date of fall - July of 2011 (certain), actual date - July 25, 2011?
Other reports say earlier in July (13-15?)

Time of fall - day or night?  (night?)

Type - Shergottite, shocked, silver-grey matrix with black shock
veins.  Glossy fresh black fusion crust.

Misc - witness reports include an audible explosion and popping sounds.

Does all of that sound about right?


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[meteorite-list] MSL Completes Biggest Maneuver

[Ron Baalke]

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2012-011  

Spacecraft Completes Biggest Maneuver
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
January 11, 2012

PASADENA, Calif. -- NASA's Mars Science Laboratory spacecraft
successfully refined its flight path Wednesday with the biggest maneuver
planned for the mission's journey between Earth and Mars.

"We've completed a big step toward our encounter with Mars," said Brian
Portock of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., deputy
mission manager for the cruise phase of the mission. "The telemetry from
the spacecraft and the Doppler data show that the maneuver was completed
as planned."

The Mars Science Laboratory mission will use its car-size rover,
Curiosity, to investigate whether the selected region on Mars inside
Gale Crater has offered environmental conditions favorable for
supporting microbial life and favorable for preserving clues about
whether life existed.

Engineers had planned today's three-hour series of thruster-engine
firings to accomplish two aims: to put the spacecraft's trajectory about
25,000 miles (about 40,000 kilometers) closer to encountering Mars and
to advance the time of the encounter by about 14 hours, compared with
the trajectory following the mission's Nov. 26, 2011, launch.

"The timing of the encounter is important for arriving at Mars just when
the planet's rotation puts Gale Crater in the right place," said JPL's
Tomas Martin-Mur, chief navigator for the mission.

The mission's second trajectory correction maneuver, expected to be
about one-sixth the magnitude of this first one, is scheduled for March
26. Up to four additional opportunities for fine-tuning, as needed, are
scheduled before the arrival at Mars on Aug. 5, 2012, PDT (Aug. 6, EDT
and Universal Time).

The spacecraft's initial trajectory resulting from the launch included
an intentional offset to prevent the upper stage of the launch vehicle
from hitting Mars. That upper stage was not cleaned the way the
spacecraft itself was to protect Mars from Earth's microbes.

The Mars Science Laboratory spacecraft rotates in flight at about two
revolutions per minute. Today's maneuver included two different
components: one that changed velocity in the direction of the axis of
the spacecraft's rotation, and one that changed velocity in a direction
perpendicular to that.

The maneuver used the eight thruster engines on the cruise stage of the
spacecraft, grouped into two sets of four. It began with a thrust
lasting about 19 minutes, using just one thruster in each set and
affecting velocity along the direction of the axis of rotation. Then, to
affect velocity perpendicular to that line, each set of thrusters was
fired for 5 seconds when the rotation put that set facing the proper
direction. These 5-second bursts were repeated more than 200 times
during a period of about two hours for a total of about 40 minutes.

The maneuver was calculated to produce a net change in velocity of about
12.3 miles per hour (5.5 meters per second), combining a slight increase
in speed with a small change in direction of travel.

As of 9 a.m. PST (noon EST) on Thursday, Jan. 12, the spacecraft will
have traveled 81.2 million miles (130.6 million kilometers) of its
352-million-mile (567-million-kilometer) flight to Mars. It will be
moving at about 10,300 mph (16,600 kilometers per hour) relative to
Earth, and at about 68,700 mph (110,500 kilometers per hour) relative to
the sun.

JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena,
manages the Mars Science Laboratory mission for the NASA Science Mission
Directorate, Washington.

More information about Curiosity is online at: http://www.nasa.gov/msl
and http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/ . You can follow the mission on
Facebook at: http://www.facebook.com/marscuriosity and on Twitter at:
http://www.twitter.com/marscuriosity .

Guy Webster 818-354-6278
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
guy.webs...@jpl.nasa.gov

2012-011

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Re: [meteorite-list] Stones from the sky - 'Faraday Prize Lecture' on meteorites at the Royal Society, London

[karmaka]

CORRECTION:  It starts at 18.30 CET (Central European Time)  of course.
 
 
 
Von: "karmaka" 
 An: "met-list" 
 Betreff: [meteorite-list] Stones from the sky - 'Faraday Prize Lecture' on 
meteorites at the Royal Society, London
 Datum: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 16:37:40 +0100
 
Stones from the sky - 'Faraday Prize Lecture' on meteorites at the Royal 
Society, London
 
 Later today (12.30 EDT, 17.30 UTC, 18.30 UTC)  Professor Colin Pillinger will 
deliver the 'Faraday Prize Lecture' at the Royal Society, London
 
 Title:  Stones from the sky: A heaven-sent opportunity to talk about science
 
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jan/12/colin-pillinger-meteorites-faraday-lecture
 
 
 http://royalsociety.org/events/2012/stones-from-the-sky/
 
 You can follow the lecture as a live webcast here:
 
 http://royalsociety.org/live/ 
 
 It will be available afterwards for another 48 hours as 'video on demand'
 
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[meteorite-list] Stones from the sky - 'Faraday Prize Lecture' on meteorites at the Royal Society, London

[karmaka]

Stones from the sky - 'Faraday Prize Lecture' on meteorites at the Royal 
Society, London

Later today (12.30 EDT, 17.30 UTC, 18.30 UTC)  Professor Colin Pillinger will 
deliver the 'Faraday Prize Lecture' at the Royal Society, London

Title:  Stones from the sky: A heaven-sent opportunity to talk about science

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jan/12/colin-pillinger-meteorites-faraday-lecture
 

http://royalsociety.org/events/2012/stones-from-the-sky/

You can follow the lecture as a live webcast here:

http://royalsociety.org/live/ 

It will be available afterwards for another 48 hours as 'video on demand'

Best wishes

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Re: [meteorite-list] Interesting article on Tata that gives the date of the fall as the 25th July

[karmaka]

Sorry Chris, but the date (25th July) refers to the meteor observed above 
Brittany in France.
The article you quote was already published on the 23rd December, parallel to 
the first public anouncement of the new Martian fall by Luc Labenne.
 
Martin
 
Von: chris handler 
 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: [meteorite-list] Interesting article on Tata that gives the date of 
the fall as the 25th July
 Datum: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:39:03 +0100
 
I found this interesting article on Tata that coverers both its
 discovery date, as well as some information on current study
 concerning it. I've translated the page into English the best I could.
 The original can be found here if you wish to see it;
 http://www.cieletespace.fr/node/8328
 
 Discovery of a Martian meteorite that fell to Earth this past summer
 Like a racing car plummeting from space, a meteorite that was observed
 in the middle of the day has been identified as coming from the planet
 Mars. Alerted in mid December by the discovery of the meteorites
 between Morocco and Algeria, Luc Labenne, a hunter of meteorites,
 examined the rocks and recognized them to be a Shergottite, the most
 common type of rock torn off the surface of Mars by powerful impacts.
 
 A Martian meteorite discovery
 Luc Labenne recovered the first samples of the meteorite after being
 guided by local Saharans who observed the arrival of the powerful
 bolide, heralding the arrival of the Martian on July 25th. He then had
 two small samples of approximately two grams sent Brigitte Zanda and
 Violaine Sauter, of the Museum of Natural history for analysis. "What
 is obvious right now is that the crust that surrounds the meteorite is
 intact, a sign that its fall was very recent. The crust on this
 meteorites is very fragile and in the sand driven winds of the desert,
 the crust would have deteriorated, even after only a few months."
 
 Conformation of Martian origin
 Through contact with an American specialist researcher in meteorites,
 Luc Labenne has confirmed that the fragments are indeed of Martian
 origin. The researcher has already obtained samples and had them
 confirmed by analysis as authentic.
 
 A unique chance for science
 As the Martian origin has been confirmed, this constitutes an
 exceptional opportunity for science, just as the Paris meteorite
 discovered in 2010 did. Indeed, Since this meteorite has avoided the
 ravages of time and contamination, it offers an opportunity to search
 for the possible remnants of Martian organisms, just as the Martian
 meteorite ALH 84001 did in 1996, only unlike this new meteorite, it
 had sat on the surface of the Earth for 13000 years.
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[meteorite-list] Interesting article on Tata that gives the date of the fall as the 25th July

[chris handler]

I found this interesting article on Tata that coverers both its
discovery date, as well as some information on current study
concerning it. I've translated the page into English the best I could.
The original can be found here if you wish to see it;
http://www.cieletespace.fr/node/8328

Discovery of a Martian meteorite that fell to Earth this past summer
Like a racing car plummeting from space, a meteorite that was observed
in the middle of the day has been identified as coming from the planet
Mars. Alerted in mid December by the discovery of the meteorites
between Morocco and Algeria, Luc Labenne, a hunter of meteorites,
examined the rocks and recognized them to be a Shergottite, the most
common type of rock torn off the surface of Mars by powerful impacts.

A Martian meteorite discovery
Luc Labenne recovered the first samples of the meteorite after being
guided by local Saharans who observed the arrival of the powerful
bolide, heralding the arrival of the Martian on July 25th. He then had
two small samples of approximately two grams sent Brigitte Zanda and
Violaine Sauter, of the Museum of Natural history for analysis. "What
is obvious right now is that the crust that surrounds the meteorite is
intact, a sign that its fall was very recent. The crust on this
meteorites is very fragile and in the sand driven winds of the desert,
the crust would have deteriorated, even after only a few months."

Conformation of Martian origin
Through contact with an American specialist researcher in meteorites,
Luc Labenne has confirmed that the fragments are indeed of Martian
origin. The researcher has already obtained samples and had them
confirmed by analysis as authentic.

A unique chance for science
As the Martian origin has been confirmed, this constitutes an
exceptional opportunity for science, just as the Paris meteorite
discovered in 2010 did. Indeed, Since this meteorite has avoided the
ravages of time and contamination, it offers an opportunity to search
for the possible remnants of Martian organisms, just as the Martian
meteorite ALH 84001 did in 1996, only unlike this new meteorite, it
had sat on the surface of the Earth for 13000 years.
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[meteorite-list] 26 GRAM THUATHE (AD)

[steve arnold]

Good morning list.3 weeks till tucson,now that we are going to get our
first measurable now this winter.I have a 26 gram thuathe stone
individual forsale or trade.It comes with the meteorite madness card
provenance.I am asking $250 or a nice oriented stone or oriented
sikhote-alin.I also have a 8.3 gram oriented unclassified iron that
was found last year in morocco.$100.Evrything with free shipping.I am
looking forward to seeing everyone again.Have a great day.

-- 
Steve R. Anold, chicago, ill.
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

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Gold Basin

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp
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