[meteorite-list] Dentists and a Yaqui/Mayan meteorite mystery (was ...Tucson)
Hi Ed, On dentistes, Yaqui and a meteorite Dentists in Nogales: The dentists I mentioned all speak English and some even have US diplomas on the walls, although in the Mexican schools they probably get just as much if not more hands-on practice. So don't be shy, though I thank you so kindly for the vote of confidence. My Mother needed a root canal job about 5 years ago and even though we could have gotten it done anywhere in the world, I chose to get it done in Mexico and the proof is in the absolutely perfect job this incredible dentist did and with a service that I have never seen elsewhere and her hands were as gentle as they come.. Back to the Yaqui and meteorites: An unsolved Sonoran Yaqui Valley Mystery Here's a lead that would be a blast to read; from the book: The Book of the Damned by Charles Fort In the Scientific American, Sept. 10, 1910, Charles F. Holder writes: "Many years ago, a strange stone resembling a meteorite, fell into the Valley of the Yaqui, Mexico, and the sensational story went from one end to the other of the country that a stone bearing human inscriptions had descended to the earth." The bewildering observation here is Mr. Holder's assertion that this stone did fall. It seems to me that he must mean that it fell by dislodgment from a mountainside into a valley — but we shall see that it was such a marked stone that very unlikely would it have been unknown to dwellers in a valley, if it had been reposing upon a mountain side above them. It may have been carelessness: intent may have been to say that a sensational storyof a strange stone said to have fallen, etc. This stone was reported by Major Frederick Burnham, of the British Army. Later Major Burnham re-visited it, and Mr. Holder accompanied him, their purpos to decipher the inscriptions on it, if possible. "This stone was a brown, igneous rock, its longest axis about eight feet, and on the eastern face, which had an angle of about forty-five degrees, was the deep-cut inscription." Mr. Holder says that he recognized familiar Mayan symbols in the inscription. His method was the usual method by which anything can be "identified" as anything else: that is to pick out whatever is agreeable and disregard the rest. He says that he has demonstrated that most of the symbols are Mayan. One of our interme- diatist pseudo-principles is that any way of demonstrating anything is just as good a way of demonstrating anything else. By Mr. Holder's method we could demonstrate that we're Mayan — if that should be a source of pride to us. One of the characters upon this stone is a circle within a circle — similar character found by Mr. Holder in a Mayan manuscript. There are two 6's. 6's can be found in Mayan manuscripts. A double scroll. There are dots and there are dashes. Well, then, we, in turn, disregard the circle within a circle and the double scroll and emphasize that 6's occur in this book, and that dots are plentiful, and would be more if it were customary to use the small "i" for the first personal pronoun — that when it comes to dashes — that's demonstrated: we're Mayan. I suppose the tendency is to damned feel that we're sneering at some valuable archaologic work, and that Mr. Holder did make a veritable identification. He writes: "I submitted the photographs to the Field Museum and the Smithsonian and one or two others, and, to my surprise, the reply was that they could make nothing out of it." Our indefinite acceptance, by preponderance of three or four groups of museum-experts against one person is that a stone bearing inscriptions unassimilable with any known language upon this earth, is said to have fallen from the sky. Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: E.P. Grondine To: MexicoDoug Cc: meteorite-list Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 2:06 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Hi Doug - I wouldn't try it without your wonderful personal help. I don't know how to say "more lidocaine" in Spanish. My guess as to where the Yaqui meteorites are is in their pockets or in their houses. You could just ask them, and unless you're too greedy or obsessed, they'd likely tell you. The key is respect, and remembering that they have their own way of looking at things, and valuing them. E.P. --- On Fri, 1/20/12, MexicoDoug wrote: From: MexicoDoug Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson To: epgrond...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, January 20, 2012, 1:28 AM Hi Ed, I'm sorry you can't make it to Tucson, but if you don't have dental insurance, you'll probably get a better work for half the price right across the border from Tucson/Nogales and can make your trip worthwhile. Plus you might find some interesting stuff in Yaqui culture if you look hard enough in that territory. Really from a meteorite hunting perspective it's hard to top the Yaquis. They traditionally believe that everything that "inhabits" the desert
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Mundrabilla http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A 349 gram fully fusion crusted Tissint in the Carleton B. Moore Meteorite Collection at ASU.
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Re: [meteorite-list] A 349 gram fully fusion crusted Tissint in the Carleton B. Moore Meteorite Collection at ASU.
Beautiful specimen and beautiful image. Gorgeous. On Jan 21, 2012, at 8:46 AM, ROCKS FROM SPACE wrote: > http://www.rocksfromspace.org/tissint-asu.html > __ > HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ROCKS FROM SPACE | METEORITES AND METEORITE HUNTERS
Hi Michael ,Peter and Jason Great pictures! Sonny -Original Message- From: ROCKS FROM SPACE To: meteorite-list Sent: Thu, Jan 19, 2012 3:45 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] ROCKS FROM SPACE | METEORITES AND METEORITE HUNTERS http://www.rocksfromspace.org/utas.html__HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.htmlMeteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li stinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Oman Swiss/German Team Meteorite Hunting Video
Dear List, http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2012/01/oman-meteorite-news-scientists-index.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: BENARES (a), Murray, 2008TC3, Ensisheim, NAHKLA, LA002, COLD BOKKEVELD, Sylacauga, L’Aigle, MOSS, High Possil & more on eBay
Hello Listers, Thank you for taking a look at my post of meteorites I have for sale on eBay. Here is your chance to own some rare and historic meteorites. Please take a look and if you have any questions or OFFERS please email me and I’ll get back with you. Also if you are looking for bigger/smaller meteorites, let me know too. A meteorite is a meteorite, but a meteorite with history and a legacy, will always add aura to your meteorite collection and value. eBaystore http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? Featured meteorites of the week on eBay BENARES (a) meteorite fell in 1798 India- Hammer stone fall! http://www.ebay.com/itm/250970242241?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 NEW CONCORD meteorite 1860-Horse killer-ASU collection! *Close to a gram* http://www.ebay.com/itm/260937975545?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 ALMAHATA SITTA meteorite 2008TC3 seen from space rare! http://www.ebay.com/itm/260937982362?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 MURRAY Ultra Rare CM2 Meteorite 70 Amino Acids Polyols SUGARS - ASU Collection. *FUSION CRUST* http://www.ebay.com/itm/250975833863?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 NAKHLA Martian/Mars meteorite - 1911 Fall- SUPER RARE! http://www.ebay.com/itm/250974701409?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 MOSS meteorite Hammer Stone Fall CO3.6 VERY RARE Classification.*HAMMER STONE* http://www.ebay.com/itm/250976428064?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 WESTON - 1st USA meteorite, fell in 1807- RARE! http://www.ebay.com/itm/260937988029?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 LOS ANGELES 002 Martian/Mars meteorite found in USA! http://www.ebay.com/itm/250976429881?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 COLD BOKKEVELD meteorite fall 1838 - Very Rare CM2 meteorite! http://www.ebay.com/itm/260937375567?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 MIGHEI CM2 meteorite - Type specimen - 1889 fall! http://www.ebay.com/itm/260937977611?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 HAMBLETON meteorite 2005 UK Pallasite - Rarely sold on eBay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/250975837610?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 Mauerkirchen meteorite 1st classified from Austria - Fell in 1768! http://www.ebay.com/itm/250975842859?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 ENSISHEIM historic meteorite fall from 1492 - France - Very Rare! http://www.ebay.com/itm/250975835905?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 ALBARETO meteorite-1766 fall-1st from Italy-ULTRA RARE. http://www.ebay.com/itm/260937377717?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 OCHANSK historic meteorite fall from The Rob Elliott Collection. http://www.ebay.com/itm/250975832157?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 BILANGA-meteorite fall 1999-RARE Diogenite! http://www.ebay.com/itm/260937986368?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 KRASNOJARSK (Pallas Iron) Pallasite meteorite 1749! http://www.ebay.com/itm/260885634459?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Ultra rare *Bishopville*-*Weston*-*D'Orbigny*-*Appley Bridge*
Hi List and happy weekend. I have 4 incredible auctions ending tomorrow evening (Sunday January 22-2012) consisting of some not often ever seen specimens on eBay. http://www.ebay.com/sch/emflocater/m.html?item=160716575150&sspagename=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&_trksid=p3984.m1586.l2649&_trksid=p4340.l2562 **Weston**...Utterly historical. You just don't hardly see this most historical meteorite available anymore except in little fragments. I have an incredible nice part slice! (Hammer) **Bishopville**...can't remember last time I seen this available! Huge 0.405 gm fragment! Beautiful Aubrite only one available. **D'Oribigny**...an Angrite! -Angrites are some of the rarest types meteorites. Sweet fragment and only one I have. **Appley Bridge**...One of the most difficult meteorite specimens to acquire! Thank you for looking. Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Texas/Oklahoma Meteor 20JAN2012
Dear List, Another Texas/Oklahoma fireball: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2012/01/breaking-news-texasoklahoma-meteor.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo http://thelatestworldwidemeteorreports.blogspot.com/ __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Crooked Creek Crater, Aldama, Forestburg, Millbillillie, Mount Egerton, Norton County, Wagon Mound, Gao, Zag, more.
Hi Friends and Collectors, I just listed a big batch of new meteorites. Some of these are brand new and have never been offered before. Some of these are fresh stock of specimens that were sold out. As always, use coupon code "metlist" at checkout for 20% off your purchase. :) New Offerings - Crooked Creek Crater impact breccia (polished slice, 52g) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/crooked-creek-impact-breccia--rare-missouri-impact-structure-52g Millbillillie (eucrite fall, micromounts) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/millbillillie--vestan-eucrite-fall-from-australia--micromounts Wagon Mound (L6 find, micromounts) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/wagon-mound--new-mexico-heirloom-meteorite-micromounts Mount Egerton (aubrite find, micromounts) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/mount-egerton--anomalous-aubrite-from-australia-micromounts Forestburg(a) (L4 find, partslice) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/forestburga-classic-texas-farm-l4-find-micromounts-1 Forestburg(a) (L4 find, micromounts) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/forestburga-classic-texas-farm-l4-find-micromounts Aldama(b) (H5 find, micromounts) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/aldamab-mexico-h5-meteorite-low-tkw-micromounts New pieces of these meteorite micromounts - Norton County (aubrite fall, micros) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/norton-county--historic-witnessed-fall-aubrite-micros Gao Guenie (H5 chondrite fall, micros) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/gao-guenie--h5-hammer-fall-from-1960-burkina-faso-micromount Zag (H3-6 chondrite fall, micros) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/zag-h3-6-transitional-chondrite-meteorite-witnessed-fall La Criolla (L6 chondrite fall, micros) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/la-criolla-l6-chondrite-witnessed-fall-from-argentina-1985 Koltsovo (H4 chondrite find, micros) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/koltsovo-russian-mushroom-hunter-h4-meteorite-2004-micromount Mars Tissint (or Tata) Shergottite Meteorite - Tissint Martian meteorite riker box display -http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/mars-rock-retro-art-martian-meteorite-display-tata-shergottite Tissint Mars meteorite micromount - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/mars-rock-martian-meteorite-display-tata-shergottite See all of the newest offerings here - http://www.galactic-stone.com/products/brand-new Thanks for looking! MikeG -- * Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone *** __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Promising sites around Sedona Arizona?
After a couple of weeks on vacation in beautiful Sedona Arizona I had the opportunity to spend some time meteorite hunting. I have a total of about 20 hours in hunting here. After nearly accepting defeat on my last day here, and after finding lots of bullets, shell casings and other garbage, I hope it's the real thing. Below are a few snapshots. I found it in a pasture a couple of miles south of the Village of Oak Creek. My metal detector screeched for it and its extremely attracted to my magnet. Any comments are welcome. If it's the real thing, this will be my second find. The first one was just over a year ago in northern Nevada. If all goes as planned, I plan to be at the Tucson show so I'll bring it with me to hopefully get some personal comments. http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/Sedona1.JPG http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/Sedona2.JPG http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/Sedona3.JPG http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/Sedona4.JPG http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/Sedona5.JPG Thanks in advance for your comments. Abe Guenther -Original Message- From: Kashuba [mailto:mary.kash...@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:46 PM To: 'Guenther' Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Promising sites around Sedona Arizona? Abe, Tucson will be excellent late in the month (wink). - John John Kashuba Ontario, California -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Guenther Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:48 PM To: 'Meteorite Mailing List' Subject: [meteorite-list] Promising sites around Sedona Arizona? Hi all, I am planning a 2 week vacation to Sedona Arizona in January and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share some leads on prospective hunting sites in the area. Thanks, Abe Guenther __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Studying the science of space junk
Studying the science of space junk by Eryn Brown Los Angeles Times, January 22, 2012, http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-space-junk-20120122,0,5399306,full.story http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-space-junk-20120122,0,819657.story Space debris cluttering up orbit by Penelope Debelle Adelaide Now, January 22, 2012 http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/space-debris-cluttering-up-orbit/story-fn6bqpju-1226249814821 Best wishes, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Promising sites around Sedona Arizona?
Too angular, it's man made...sorry On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Guenther wrote: > After a couple of weeks on vacation in beautiful Sedona Arizona I had the > opportunity to spend some time meteorite hunting. I have a total of about 20 > hours in hunting here. After nearly accepting defeat on my last day here, > and after finding lots of bullets, shell casings and other garbage, I hope > it's the real thing. > > Below are a few snapshots. I found it in a pasture a couple of miles south > of the Village of Oak Creek. My metal detector screeched for it and its > extremely attracted to my magnet. Any comments are welcome. If it's the real > thing, this will be my second find. The first one was just over a year ago > in northern Nevada. > > If all goes as planned, I plan to be at the Tucson show so I'll bring it > with me to hopefully get some personal comments. > > http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/Sedona1.JPG > http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/Sedona2.JPG > http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/Sedona3.JPG > http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/Sedona4.JPG > http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/Sedona5.JPG > > Thanks in advance for your comments. > > Abe Guenther > > -Original Message- > From: Kashuba [mailto:mary.kash...@verizon.net] > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:46 PM > To: 'Guenther' > Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Promising sites around Sedona Arizona? > > Abe, > > Tucson will be excellent late in the month (wink). > > - John > > John Kashuba > Ontario, California > > -Original Message- > From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Guenther > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:48 PM > To: 'Meteorite Mailing List' > Subject: [meteorite-list] Promising sites around Sedona Arizona? > > Hi all, > > I am planning a 2 week vacation to Sedona Arizona in January and I was > wondering if anyone would be willing to share some leads on prospective > hunting sites in the area. > > Thanks, > > Abe Guenther > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: www.MrMeteorite.com Articles: www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list