Re: [meteorite-list] (no subject)

2012-01-28 Thread Sergey Vasiliev
Hi Pete, all,

Actually I made a website where I started to upload my own books collection.
But the idea is that anybody can share here their prints too.
http://books.sv-meteorites.com

Will need some time to finish with my books but can make a website working
for everybody later if this idea will be interesting.

Regards,
Sergey


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Pete
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:33 AM
To: g...@webbers.com; meteoritelist meteoritelist
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Excellent idea, Gary!

It would be nice if we had a central storage site where this type of
historic data could be saved and easily shared.



I've got the Encyclopedia Britannica Ninth Edition, 1890, kicking around
here somewhere.

I'll follow your lead and try to scan anything relevant and post it.

I think aerolite, bolide, and pallasite entries in old publications would be
interesting, too.



Cheers,

Pete


> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:54:07 -0500
> From: g...@webbers.com
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] (no subject)
>
> Thought you all might be interested in the 1957 Encyclopedia Britannica
> entry for 'Meteorites'. Click the pictures on the webpage for full size
> readable photos of the EB pages and closeups of most of the plates. My
> battery ran out before I got them all.
>
>
http://www.webbers.com/meteorites/encyclopedia-britannica-1957-meteorites.ht
ml
>
> Enjoy the time capsule,
>
> Gary
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2012-01-28 Thread valparint
Unclassified NWA

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 103, Issue 36

2012-01-28 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
Hello Jonathan and List,

Beautiful and ethereal!
Thanks for sharing!

Bernd


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 103, Issue 36

2012-01-28 Thread Matthias Bärmann


The sparkling inter-play between moon and surface of the sea, enfolded in a 
rhythm of stills and flow - wonderful, thank you.


Best regards,
Matthias


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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 103, Issue 36




List...

All this talk about the moon -- I woke up just in time to see the moon
do something I'd never seen for just a few minutes.

Both my stills and video are lit by moonlight and mirrored reflection
off the elevated surfaces of the waves...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuzshLAX1-Q&list=UUnioydBfhrDU8MxPjgQL0NA
&index=1&feature=plcp

Just 80 calm seconds of surfing fireflies...

Jonathan

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Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution

2012-01-28 Thread Jim Wooddell

Hello Richard,

You can probably Google a specific polishing compound or powder and come up 
with safety information on that specific product without me going into the 
same detail here.
Think about this.  Typically, what do we normally use to sand with?  We 
start out with ~180 grit sand paper and work up to maybe 1200 grit.  I am 
guessing many stop at 400 or 600 grit.  This is pretty fine stuff, right? 
Now think about the fine work needed to put samples under a microscope.  How 
about compounds made up of very hard (Mohs 9+) metal particles or diamond 
compound or mixtures with 100,000 grit or even 150,000 grit!  The particle 
size is so small, it can go into your body through your skin or lungs, etc 
just by handling it.


Jim

- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Montgomery" 
To: "Jim Wooddell" ; "Mark Grossman" 
; ; "MexicoDoug" 


Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution



Jim...nice post.  Can you elaborate on the compound?


- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Wooddell" 
To: "Mark Grossman" ; 
; "MexicoDoug" 

Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution



Hi Mark and Doug and all!

Another good topic...that goes along with etching meteorites is the
polishing compounds used prior to etching.  For example, a 1 micron
polishing compound or mixture has it's own set of safety issues.  The
concern is absorption through the skin, etc!  Most probably do not polish 
to

that level But some do!

Jim



Jim Wooddell
http://k7wfr.us

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Grossman" 
To: ; "MexicoDoug" 


Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution



Hi Doug,

Thanks for the comments.

I'm a Certified Industrial Hygienist and a Certified Safety Professional 
and have been in the chemical health and safety field for more years 
than I care to admit. Before that, I used to work as an analytical 
chemist.


There is a lot of information you have passed on to the list with good 
intent, but there are several assumptions that you are making that are 
not substantiated.  However, I agree that the purpose of the list is not 
to get into a deep discussion of health and safety issues.  Anyone who 
would like to do so can contact me off-list.


But I do have a concern that many of the comments in the threads have 
been a bit too casual - that may be my interpretation or reading only - 
and if so I apologize.  But we have identified three unfortunate 
experiences with nitric acid/ethanol since the discussion started - and 
I want to do my best to warn those of the potential hazards that are 
involved before someone gets hurt or has another unfortunate tale to 
post on the internet. I think we all have the same objective as far as 
that goes.


One last item - you may want to calculate the percent composition of the 
3 molar (normal) solution you are recommending and compare the figure to 
Bretherick's data for instability.


Mark

Mark Grossman
Meteorite Manuscripts


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To: ; 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution


Hi Mark,

"Would appreciate a reference for the nickel chloride being 15 times
more carcinogenic than soluble nickel nitrate."

That's not what I wrote although it could be true I have no such
reference to support the above.

What I did write was:

"Only Nickel chloride (a result of ferric chloride etching) is
carcinogenic at levels
15 times lower than those produced from nitric acid etching."

There is a huge difference between what you understood and what I
actually wrote as threshhold toxicity levels don't necessarily equate
to activity factors.  This is because the body has dozens of competing
homeostatic (metabolic, immune/allergic, etc.) processes that relate to
detoxification and an imbalance occurs when that one single straw to
many put on the camel breaks its back.

The reference should be any MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet), just
check whichever one you have access to or dig up first.

Toxicology, especially when it comes to carcinogens is so complex that
I don't think anyone understands it, or they would already gotten a
billion buck grant from the NIH by now.  It just comes in many small
pieces.  I share your opinion that we should reference and I'm sorry if
I just dumped all this information for discussion, but it was more
useful that keeping i to myself.  I've not found a reasonable layman's
treatise anywhere on the subject so I figured the met list was as good
as it gets without opening yet another research project to compete with
the other ones I've got floundering.

Anyway, the exposure limits I mention I believe are for lab rats
approximating other mammals, like humans.  Again, the more you get into
this the more it's hard to muzzle oneself becasue now we're getting
further into it:

so - must ask, can you breath it in (probably not in most ca

[meteorite-list] The main mass of Petersburg (ASU#334s, 415.7 gram, polymict eucrite, fell 1855) in the Center for Meteorite Studies at Arizona State University.

2012-01-28 Thread ROCKS FROM SPACE
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/petersburg.html
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[meteorite-list] AD: MURRAY, Forest City, LA002, DAG 400, Nakhla, SERES, Moss, Lost City & much more ending on eBay!

2012-01-28 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Listers, 

Thank you for taking a look at my post of meteorites 
I have for sale on eBay. Here is your chance to own some rare and historic 
meteorites. Please take a look and if you have any questions or OFFERS 
please email me and I’ll get back with you. Also if you are looking for 
bigger/smaller meteorites, let me know too. A meteorite is a meteorite, but 
a meteorite with history and a legacy, will always add aura to your 
meteorite collection and value.
 
eBay store
http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html?
 
Featured meteorites
 
MURRAY Ultra Rare CM2 Meteorite 70 Amino Acids Polyols SUGARS - ASU Collection. 
*233mg Fusion Crust*
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260944037899?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
FOREST CITY meteorite 1890 historic fall -1st COURT CASE BATTLE!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260941943339?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
MOSS meteorite Hammer Stone Fall CO3.6 VERY RARE Classification.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260941598832?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
SERES meteorite 1818 1st and only meteorite from Greece
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260941950246?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
LOS ANGELES 002 Martian/Mars meteorite found in USA! *70mg Fragment*
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260941944808?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
NAKHLA Martian/Mars meteorite - 1911 Fall- SUPER RARE!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260944040268?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
HAMBLETON meteorite 2005 UK Pallasite - Rarely sold on eBay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260944034279?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
NWA 2999 rare Angrite meteorite suggested from MERCURY!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260941946389?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
BARWELL meteorite Christmas meteorite fall/shower UK 1965- Hammer Fall. NHM-UCLA
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260941940532?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
NEW CONCORD meteorite 1860-Horse killer-ASU collection!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260941941706?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
JILIN meteorite deemed as scientifically important!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260941956612?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
L'AIGLE historic meteorite fall- Fell in 1803 in France which change histroy!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260941947058?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
MURRAY Ultra Rare CM2 Meteorite 70 Amino Acids Polyols SUGARS - ASU Collection!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260941954486?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
ebay store
http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html?
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[meteorite-list] Tucson Show 2012

2012-01-28 Thread sahara nayzak


Hello List,

Welcome to our Tent in the Howard Johnson Hotel (tent TL7). 

Come to see our meteorites specially the new Martian (Tissint), an other 
martian meteorite, and many other beauties.

All the best

MohammedHMANI
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[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorite Books, Crooked Creek Crater Breccia (gorgeous polished slices), & Tissint (Tata) Shergottite

2012-01-28 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Greetings Listees!

As Tucson nears again, the entire meteorite world feels the ripple
effects of what transpires at or around the Show.  New material, new
deals, and old friends result in a ton of wheeling and dealing that
stirs up the market for months to come.  It's always an exciting time,
even for those who cannot make the pilgrimage.

For those who are going - have fun, be safe, and get some new stones.  :)

I have some interesting new offerings this week.  (don't forget to use
your "metlist" coupon code at checkout for 20% off all prices)

First, I have two really pretty slices of Crooked Creek impact
breccia.  This is a locality you don't see very often and these pieces
have great preparation.  The photos don't do them justice.  I offered
one last week and it got snapped up, so here are two more worth taking
a look at -

Crooked Creek #1 (55g) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/crooked-creek-impact-breccia-rare-missouri-impact-structure-52g-1

Crooked Creek #2 (50g) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/crooked-creek-impact-breccia-rare-missouri-impact-structure-55g

Next, a few vintage or collectible meteorite books worth taking a look at -

Have you Seen a Meteorite? -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/have-you-seen-a-meteorite--booklet-asu-meteorite-center

Meteorites! (Carleton Moore,1971) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/meteorites--by-carleton-b-moore-meteorite-book

Stones from the Stars (LeMaire) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/stones-from-the-stars-by-tr-lemaire

Meteorites (Hutchinson) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/meteorites-by-hutchinson-and-graham

MAPS Journals  - http://www.galactic-stone.com/products/meteorite-library


And lastly, I have some affordable micromounts of the new Tissint
(Tata) Martian shergottite fall -

Tissint micro -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/mars-rock-martian-meteorite-display-tata-shergottite

Tissint Riker Box Display -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/mars-rock-retro-art-martian-meteorite-display-tata-shergottite

All Martian specimens -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/products/martian-meteorites

All New Offerings - http://www.galactic-stone.com/products/brand-new

Thanks for looking and have a great weekend!

MikeG

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Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution

2012-01-28 Thread William Bagwell
If someone is aspiring for fourth place, and needs sacrificial material to 
practice on, I happen to have a very nice looking wrong:) Willing to trade 
a small chunk for a photograph or two of the results.

Out of 'palm' sized slices until I get the main mass cut or knock 
another corner off. But have three smaller chunks in the 50 to 100 gram 
range that each have enough metal to try for false Neumann lines.

Unless they were caused by his ultra precision sanding (mine ain't) last 
picture here suggests false Neumann lines may appear with a proper etch.
http://alt-config.net/brandon-pics.html

William

On Saturday 28 January 2012, Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote:
> Hi List,
>
> Two of the three best etchers are on this List - Mike Miller and Mirko
> Graul.  If you want super results, copy their technique - if they will
> share it.
>
> Best regards,
>
> MikeG


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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Meteorite Auction

2012-01-28 Thread Michael Blood
Hi All,
Tomorrow is my last day here then off to Tucson Mon.
The lots are now arranged by number of order of sale.
All Absentee bids from now on should include entire lot #.

http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/AuctionTucson12.html

By Sun I will have a small PRINT copy and a Delux Print
Copy ready for people to print.
All absentee bidders should get bids in by tomorrow night -
After that you will have to call me on the cell phone I will have
On the Tucson trip. (Please do not call that number except during
The Tucson Show)
Happy Hunting, Michael
PS: Foote donation pieces will still be accepted. I will also take
Last minute specimens at the auction but only high quality pieces. 


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[meteorite-list] Tucson Gem Show App

2012-01-28 Thread Richard A. Kowalski
I just discovered that the City of Tucson has created a smartphone app 
for this year's shows.


Using your smartphone, go to http://www.visitTucson.org/gemshow and 
follow the directions that pop up to install the app on your phone.


I just installed it myself and find it contains the show dates and 
locations, displayed on a map, along with dining and transportation 
information


Have fun

--
Richard A. Kowalski
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[meteorite-list] Sale Ad- Moapa Valley CM1

2012-01-28 Thread wahlperry

Hi List,

I have just added a few new pictures of my Moapa Valley CM1 main mass 
and the remaining slice on my website. For those of you interested 
click on the link below. Moapa Valley is an exceedingly rare 
Carbonaceous Chondrite making it a world class specimen. It is the only 
CM1 found in the United States and second CM1 recovered outside the 
Antarctic. Moapa Valley is the only CM1 Carbonaceous Chondrite material 
available to the public.


Trades will be considered for the main mass and remaining slice with 
Museum’s and Universities.


Only 15 meteorites of this classification have been recovered world 
wide.


NWA 4765  was found outside Antarctica by a Nomad in North West Africa, 
with a TKW

of 19 grams.

13 of the CM1s were recovered by AMSMET ( Antarctic search for 
meteorites ) many of them paired. These meteorites were recovered from 
the following locations: Allan Hills, 1 stone 18 grams; Elephant 
Moraine, 1 stone 2.5 grams; La Paz Ice fields 5 stones 7.8, 1.99 ,1.8 , 
0.8 ,1.7  total 14.9 grams; Mac Alpine Hills, 1 stone . 36 grams; 
Meteorite Hills, 3 stones  40.6, 15.7, 11.5 , total 67.2 grams; Miller 
Range, 1 stone 2.4 grams; Scott Glacier, 1 stone 27.6 gram . Total 
weight of 132.75 grams. None of the AMSMET meteorites will be  
available to the public.


Anyone going to the Tucson show who is interested in seeing the main 
mass up close can contact me off list.


Thanks,

Sonny


http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Moapa_Valley_Sale_page_1.html
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[meteorite-list] ny-nj-md-pa-va-meteor 28JAN2012

2012-01-28 Thread drtanuki
Dear List,
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2012/01/mbiq-indicates-ny-md-pa-va-meteor.html
Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite or Meteorwrong?

2012-01-28 Thread MexicoDoug

Analysis has 'antiferride particles'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-LyndgHTic

Kindest wishes
Doug
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