Re: [meteorite-list] ATTENTION - Question about ebay member
Hi Mirko and list, We communicated over the eBay email about this bidder. He is currently bidding on some of my items on ebay (almittmet). I offer shipping in two days depending on payment. I sometimes think the people up to no good have questionable ID's in hopes you will ship before payment. That's always a mistake if you do. Ebay offers up so much buyer protection and I'm just not going to send an item before payment unless I know the buyer. I'll let the list know as there are many sellers on ebay here if I have anytrouble with this bidder, in the event he wins and doesn't come through. Best! --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites Quoting Mirko Graul : Dear List Members, someone knows the ebay member "abram62" ? What experiences have you done? The last 2 years the member has bought nothing. No feedbacks on ebay for the last 2 years. All I see is that he has buy a lot from meteorites dealers ... ..I have a bad feeling... Regards Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] mbiq-detects-louisiana-meteor-15oct2012
List, mbiq-detects-louisiana-meteor-15oct2012 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2012/10/mbiq-detects-louisiana-meteor-15oct2012.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] mbiq-detects-louisiana-meteor-15oct2012
List, mbiq-detects-louisiana-meteor-15oct2012 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2012/10/mbiq-detects-louisiana-meteor-15oct2012.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Heritage auction / Flakey Absentee Bidders
In 13 strait auctions I have had only one absentee Bidder flake out on me. Michael PS: I realize our small community is not subject to Some of the "Heritage Auction" mass media distribution And the write ups are not geared to the uninitiated. On 10/15/12 3:11 PM, "Adam Hupe" wrote: > Don't forget, they still have to collect from the "winning" bidder. Some > people have been known to gather their 15-minutes worth of fame or power trip > by getting into bidding wars and fail to pay after they have placed a > "winning" bid. Is has happened many times before. I had an item that was bid > up to over $40,000.00 at an auction house just to have the winning bidder walk > away. A 12 year kid got into an online session and bid up a famous painting > by tens of millions of dollars so no matter how hard an auction house might > try, you cannot vet out these bad bidders. > > Let us hope that they make good and do not have buyer's remorse. > > Adam > > > > - Original Message - > From: Michael Farmer > To: Greg Hupé > Cc: Adam > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:56 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Heritage auction > > I just sold one of those Seymchan spheres for $4000 two days ago on eBay, look > it up. Larger than $16000 one sold today. I offer bargains:) > But hey, I guess theirs comes with flashy catalog and "meteorite men" > provenance. > > Michael Farmer > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 14, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Greg Hupé wrote: > >> I LOVE these high profile auctions as they illustrate just how great of a >> deal us real 'every day' meteorite dealers are offering our material for. NO >> seller premiums, NO hype... Just good old-fashioned deals for collectors who >> work hard for their purchases!! >> >> Best Regards, >> Greg >> >> >> Greg Hupé >> The Hupé Collection >> gmh...@centurylink.net >> www.LunarRock.com >> NaturesVault (eBay & Facebook) >> http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault >> IMCA 3163 >> >> Click here for my current eBay auctions: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault >> >> >> >> -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer >> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 9:39 PM >> To: Yinan Wang >> Cc: Adam >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Heritage auction >> >> 25% buyers premium is highest I have ever seen, I wanted to bid on several >> items but calculating that extra 25% killed it for me. >> Michael Farmer >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 14, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Yinan Wang wrote: >> >>> No one forced anyone to participate. >>> >>> If something didn't sell, chances are it's because it had a high >>> reserve set by the seller. When you set a high reserve, you run the >>> risk of having no buyers, just like in any market. >>> >>> I'd say a photo fee and shipping is a low price to pay for a chance to >>> sell something to a large audience for several times what its worth. >>> >>> -Yinan >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Michael Farmer >>> wrote: It is a train wreck for the suppliers who had to pay to put the items in, ship them from Europe and elsewhere, and pay to ship them back! Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2012, at 7:21 PM, Yinan Wang wrote: > No offense intended, but how do you interpret this auction as a train > wreck? > > Having worked in the natural history auction industry, this was a very > good auction for everything except the high priced pieces. From what I > observed, the sell-through rate was probably over 80%, which is great > for a natural history auction. Many of the lower and middle ranged > items went for 3-10 times the market price. > > High priced meteorites in general don't seem to sell often at auction. > For example, the Willamette was very well marketed last year but did > not sell at $650,000. Looking at past auctions, it seems $90,000 to be > the top price for a meteorite sold at auction in the past few years, > at least with this auction house. > > Personally I think the market for extreme high end meteorites may not > be well established in auction houses yet. Yes, someone will (and has) > shell out up to 2 million for a dinosaur at auction but won't do the > same for a meteorite. > > -Yinan > > > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Adam Hupe > wrote: >> I think the timing of this auction during the middle of a political >> campaign might account for the train wreck witnessed today or the economy >> is worse off then anybody could imagine. Prices were all over the place, >> some excellent, some poor but not a single item exceeded $50,000.00 even >> with the huge buyer's premium in place. A few of my friends watched >> parts of this auction on CNN and thought many of the descriptions should >> have been based on the importance of the items instead of comparing them >>
[meteorite-list] AD: Gem, Mineral, Jewelry, and Fossil Show - Knoxville, TN - October 19th-21tst!
Hey, List Members! This is just a quick note to remind you about The 22nd Annual Gem, Mineral & Jewelry Show this weekend (Friday,Saturday and Sunday) in Knoxville, TN! The members of the Knoxville Gem & Mineral Society have done a lot of hard work preparing for another great show. Complete information can be found at the club's website: http://www.knoxrocks.org./gemshow.html Many dealers from across the country will be there for you viewing (and purchasing!) pleasure! The show will be held at the Kerbela Temple, 315 Mimosa Ave. Show hours are: Friday and Saturday, October 19th and 20th, 10-6, and Sunday, October 21st, 11-5. FREE parking! Please stop by our booth and say, "Hi!" We are hard to miss! We're the folks with the ORANGE table covers! We will have some new things from the Tucson shows (minerals, fossils and meteorites!) that will be displayed for sale for the first time at this show. Hey, you just might find something that you cannot live without! My billfold sure hopes so! My credit card company does likewise! But, in any case, stop by and say, "Hi!" Please ID yourself from the list! It is always neat to put faces with names. NOTE: Time has been finalized for Saturday's Tennessee/Alabama football game! Kickoff is 7pm, so do NOT allow that to keep you from the show Saturday! We hope to see you in Knoxville this weekend! I'm sure you will have a great time! John Teague Volunteer Gems Melbourne, FL (formerly: Knoxville, Tennessee!) http://www.VolunteerGems.com http://www.mineral-auctions.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Nice Surprises Tonight - Plus Sale Is Ending!
Thanks and Best Wishes Michael Cottingham ALL SALE ITEMS HERE: http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Curiosity Update: Rover's Second Scoop Discarded, Third Scoop Commanded
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2012-323 Rover's Second Scoop Discarded, Third Scoop Commanded Jet Propulsion Laboratory October 15, 2012 Commands will be sent to Curiosity today instructing the rover to collect a third scoop of soil from the "Rocknest" site of windblown Martian sand and dust. Pending evaluation of this Sol 69 (Oct. 15, 2012) scooping, a sample from the scoopful is planned as the first sample for delivery -- later this week -- to one of the rover's internal analytical instruments, the Chemistry and Mineralogy (CheMin) instrument. A later scoopful will become the first solid sample for delivery to the rover's other internal analytical instrument, the Sample Analysis at Mars (SAM) instrument. The rover's second scoopful, collected on Sol 66 (Oct. 12), was intentionally discarded on Sol 67 due to concern about particles of bright material seen in the hole dug by the scooping. Other small pieces of bright material in the Rocknest area have been assessed as debris from the spacecraft. The science team did not want to put spacecraft material into the rover's sample-processing mechanisms. Confidence for going ahead with the third scooping was based on new assessment that other bright particles in the area are native Martian material. One factor in that consideration is seeing some bright particles embedded in clods of Martian soil. Further investigations of the bright particles are planned, including some imaging in the Sol 69 plan. Sol 69, in Mars local mean solar time at Gale Crater, will end at 5:01 a.m. Oct. 16, PDT (8:01 a.m., EDT). Guy Webster 818-354-6278 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. guy.webs...@jpl.nasa.gov 2012-323 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD:new find iron and Taza for sale.
Hi List, we have new find iron for sale.. and also taza iron at a competitive price. contact me off list for pictures.. only serious buyers please .. best regards Said Haddany I.M.C.A # 8108 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Heritage auction
Don't forget, they still have to collect from the "winning" bidder. Some people have been known to gather their 15-minutes worth of fame or power trip by getting into bidding wars and fail to pay after they have placed a "winning" bid. Is has happened many times before. I had an item that was bid up to over $40,000.00 at an auction house just to have the winning bidder walk away. A 12 year kid got into an online session and bid up a famous painting by tens of millions of dollars so no matter how hard an auction house might try, you cannot vet out these bad bidders. Let us hope that they make good and do not have buyer's remorse. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer To: Greg Hupé Cc: Adam Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Heritage auction I just sold one of those Seymchan spheres for $4000 two days ago on eBay, look it up. Larger than $16000 one sold today. I offer bargains:) But hey, I guess theirs comes with flashy catalog and "meteorite men" provenance. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Greg Hupé wrote: > I LOVE these high profile auctions as they illustrate just how great of a > deal us real 'every day' meteorite dealers are offering our material for. NO > seller premiums, NO hype... Just good old-fashioned deals for collectors who > work hard for their purchases!! > > Best Regards, > Greg > > > Greg Hupé > The Hupé Collection > gmh...@centurylink.net > www.LunarRock.com > NaturesVault (eBay & Facebook) > http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault > IMCA 3163 > > Click here for my current eBay auctions: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault > > > > -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 9:39 PM > To: Yinan Wang > Cc: Adam > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Heritage auction > > 25% buyers premium is highest I have ever seen, I wanted to bid on several > items but calculating that extra 25% killed it for me. > Michael Farmer > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 14, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Yinan Wang wrote: > >> No one forced anyone to participate. >> >> If something didn't sell, chances are it's because it had a high >> reserve set by the seller. When you set a high reserve, you run the >> risk of having no buyers, just like in any market. >> >> I'd say a photo fee and shipping is a low price to pay for a chance to >> sell something to a large audience for several times what its worth. >> >> -Yinan >> >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Michael Farmer >> wrote: >>> It is a train wreck for the suppliers who had to pay to put the items in, >>> ship them from Europe and elsewhere, and pay to ship them back! >>> Michael Farmer >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Oct 14, 2012, at 7:21 PM, Yinan Wang wrote: >>> No offense intended, but how do you interpret this auction as a train wreck? Having worked in the natural history auction industry, this was a very good auction for everything except the high priced pieces. From what I observed, the sell-through rate was probably over 80%, which is great for a natural history auction. Many of the lower and middle ranged items went for 3-10 times the market price. High priced meteorites in general don't seem to sell often at auction. For example, the Willamette was very well marketed last year but did not sell at $650,000. Looking at past auctions, it seems $90,000 to be the top price for a meteorite sold at auction in the past few years, at least with this auction house. Personally I think the market for extreme high end meteorites may not be well established in auction houses yet. Yes, someone will (and has) shell out up to 2 million for a dinosaur at auction but won't do the same for a meteorite. -Yinan On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Adam Hupe wrote: > I think the timing of this auction during the middle of a political > campaign might account for the train wreck witnessed today or the economy > is worse off then anybody could imagine. Prices were all over the place, > some excellent, some poor but not a single item exceeded $50,000.00 even > with the huge buyer's premium in place. A few of my friends watched > parts of this auction on CNN and thought many of the descriptions should > have been based on the importance of the items instead of comparing them > to famous artwork. > > All of the big auction houses are struggling right now from what I have > read. Hopefully things will settle back down after the election. > > Best Regards, > > > Adam > __ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list >>
[meteorite-list] ATTENTION - Question about ebay member
Dear List Members, someone knows the ebay member "abram62" ? What experiences have you done? The last 2 years the member has bought nothing. No feedbacks on ebay for the last 2 years. All I see is that he has buy a lot from meteorites dealers ... ..I have a bad feeling... Regards Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA's WISE Colors in Unknowns on Jupiter Asteroids
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2012-322 NASA's WISE Colors in Unknowns on Jupiter Asteroids Jet Propulsion Laboratory October 15, 2012 Scientists using data from NASA's Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer, or WISE, have uncovered new clues in the ongoing mystery of the Jovian Trojans -- asteroids that orbit the sun on the same path as Jupiter. Like racehorses, the asteroids travel in packs, with one group leading the way in front of the gas giant, and a second group trailing behind. The observations are the first to get a detailed look at the Trojans' colors: both the leading and trailing packs are made up of predominantly dark, reddish rocks with a matte, non-reflecting surface. What's more, the data verify the previous suspicion that the leading pack of Trojans outnumbers the trailing bunch. The new results offer clues in the puzzle of the asteroids' origins. Where did the Trojans come from? What are they made of? WISE has shown that the two packs of rocks are strikingly similar and do not harbor any "out-of-towners," or interlopers, from other parts of the solar system. The Trojans do not resemble the asteroids from the main belt between Mars and Jupiter, nor the Kuiper belt family of objects from the icier, outer regions near Pluto. "Jupiter and Saturn are in calm, stable orbits today, but in their past, they rumbled around and disrupted any asteroids that were in orbit with these planets," said Tommy Grav, a WISE scientist from the Planetary Science Institute in Tucson, Ariz. "Later, Jupiter re-captured the Trojan asteroids, but we don't know where they came from. Our results suggest they may have been captured locally. If so, that's exciting because it means these asteroids could be made of primordial material from this particular part of the solar system, something we don't know much about." Grav is a member of the NEOWISE team, the asteroid-hunting portion of the WISE mission. The first Trojan was discovered on Feb. 22, 1906, by German astronomer Max Wolf, who found the celestial object leading ahead of Jupiter. Christened "Achilles" by the astronomer, the roughly 220-mile-wide (350-kilometer-wide) chunk of space rock was the first of many asteroids detected to be traveling in front of the gas giant. Later, asteroids were also found trailing behind Jupiter. The asteroids were collectively named Trojans after a legend, in which Greek soldiers hid inside in a giant horse statue to launch a surprise attack on the Trojan people of the city of Troy. "The two asteroid camps even have their own 'spy,'" said Grav. "After having discovered a handful of Trojans, astronomers decided to name the asteroid in the leading camp after the Greek heroes and the ones in the trailing after the heroes of Troy. But each of the camps already had an 'enemy' in their midst, with asteroid 'Hector' in the Greek camp and 'Patroclus' in the Trojan camp." Other planets were later found to have Trojan asteroids riding along with them too, such as Mars, Neptune and even Earth, where WISE recently found the first known Earth Trojan: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2011-230 . Before WISE, the main uncertainty defining the population of Jupiter Trojans was just how many individual chunks were in these clouds of space rock and ice leading Jupiter, and how many were trailing. It is believed that there are as many objects in these two swarms leading and trailing Jupiter as there are in the entirety of the main asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. To put this and other theories to bed requires a well-coordinated, well-executed observational campaign. But there were many things in the way of accurate observations -- chiefly, Jupiter itself. The orientation of these Jovian asteroid clouds in the sky in the last few decades has been an impediment to observations. One cloud is predominantly in Earth's northern sky, while the other is in the southern, forcing ground-based optical surveys to use at least two different telescopes. The surveys generated results, but it was unclear whether a particular result was caused by the problems of having to observe the two clouds with different instruments, and at different times of the year. Enter WISE, which roared into orbit on Dec. 14, 2009. The spacecraft's 16-inch (40-centimeter) telescope and infrared cameras scoured the entire sky looking for the glow of celestial heat sources. From January 2010 to February 2011, about 7,500 images were taken every day. The NEOWISE project used the data to catalogue more than 158,000 asteroids and comets throughout the solar system. "By obtaining accurate diameter and surface reflectivity measurements on 1,750 Jupiter Trojans, we increased by an order of magnitude what we knew about these two gatherings of asteroids," said Grav. "With this information, we were able to more accurately than ever confirm there are indeed almost 40 percent more objects in the leading cloud." Trying to understand the surface or interior o
[meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill website update
Dear list members. specimens SM 75 (6.85 g, 5/2/2012, Contreras) and SM 76 (8.1 g, 4/27/2012, Clary) have been added to the official Sutter's Mill confirmed find list: http://asima.seti.org/sm/ Martin Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Looking to buy Campos Sales L5 chondrite - AD
Hello, Is there someone here that can offer me a fresh 50g -200g individual of Campos Sales L5 chondrite? Thanks in advance, Andre Moutinho http://www.meteorito.com.br __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Major Announcement following Heritage Auction
Hi Steve, May I suggest that you start a service where you add meteorites to your collection for a time and then return them to their original owners. Once the rocks have gained some "Meteorite Men" patina the value will increase 10 fold. I need to get me some provenance. Peter __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Major Announcement following Heritage Auction
Sales of all personal collection specimens are hereby suspended until further notice... ;) Best regards, MikeG - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 10/15/12, Steve Arnold wrote: > To whom it may concern: > > In the past I have made certain comments and assertions to the effect > that "I do not have a 'personal collection' of meteorites" etc. Rather > I have maintained that all my meteorites I have are "in my inventory > for sale." Often this clarification has been used to show yet another > difference between my fellow host of Meteorite Men Geoff Notkin and > myself. > > Having just left an "executive meeting" with my wife regarding the > successful sale of one of Geoff Notkin's "Personal Collection" > meteorite specimens in the Oct. 14, 2012 Heritage Auction (specifically > lot number 49110 found here: > http://fineart.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=6089&lotNo=49110 ) I do hereby > announce that I am NOW starting the "Steve Arnold Personal Meteorite > Collection," items of which may periodically move into and out of said > collection into various auctions (and other selling venues) in the > future. > > :-) > > Thank you for your understanding in this major policy shift. > > Steve Arnold > Host of Science Channel's TV Series Meteorite Men >www.ScienceChannel.com > Co-Founder of America's Meteorite Store: Meteorites & More, 28 1/2 > Spring St., Eureka Springs, AR 72632 > President Palladot Inc, Extra-terrestrial Gemstones >www.Palladot.com > Facebook: MeteoriteMan > Facebook: SteveArnoldMeteorite > Facebook: Meteorite Men > Ebay: ArnoldMeteorites > meteorh...@aol.com > > > > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Major Announcement following Heritage Auction
To whom it may concern: In the past I have made certain comments and assertions to the effect that "I do not have a 'personal collection' of meteorites" etc. Rather I have maintained that all my meteorites I have are "in my inventory for sale." Often this clarification has been used to show yet another difference between my fellow host of Meteorite Men Geoff Notkin and myself. Having just left an "executive meeting" with my wife regarding the successful sale of one of Geoff Notkin's "Personal Collection" meteorite specimens in the Oct. 14, 2012 Heritage Auction (specifically lot number 49110 found here: http://fineart.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=6089&lotNo=49110 ) I do hereby announce that I am NOW starting the "Steve Arnold Personal Meteorite Collection," items of which may periodically move into and out of said collection into various auctions (and other selling venues) in the future. :-) Thank you for your understanding in this major policy shift. Steve Arnold Host of Science Channel's TV Series Meteorite Men www.ScienceChannel.com Co-Founder of America's Meteorite Store: Meteorites & More, 28 1/2 Spring St., Eureka Springs, AR 72632 President Palladot Inc, Extra-terrestrial Gemstones www.Palladot.com Facebook: MeteoriteMan Facebook: SteveArnoldMeteorite Facebook: Meteorite Men Ebay: ArnoldMeteorites meteorh...@aol.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Heritage auction
I just sold one of those Seymchan spheres for $4000 two days ago on eBay, look it up. Larger than $16000 one sold today. I offer bargains:) But hey, I guess theirs comes with flashy catalog and "meteorite men" provenance. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Greg Hupé wrote: > I LOVE these high profile auctions as they illustrate just how great of a > deal us real 'every day' meteorite dealers are offering our material for. NO > seller premiums, NO hype... Just good old-fashioned deals for collectors who > work hard for their purchases!! > > Best Regards, > Greg > > > Greg Hupé > The Hupé Collection > gmh...@centurylink.net > www.LunarRock.com > NaturesVault (eBay & Facebook) > http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault > IMCA 3163 > > Click here for my current eBay auctions: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault > > > > -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 9:39 PM > To: Yinan Wang > Cc: Adam > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Heritage auction > > 25% buyers premium is highest I have ever seen, I wanted to bid on several > items but calculating that extra 25% killed it for me. > Michael Farmer > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 14, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Yinan Wang wrote: > >> No one forced anyone to participate. >> >> If something didn't sell, chances are it's because it had a high >> reserve set by the seller. When you set a high reserve, you run the >> risk of having no buyers, just like in any market. >> >> I'd say a photo fee and shipping is a low price to pay for a chance to >> sell something to a large audience for several times what its worth. >> >> -Yinan >> >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Michael Farmer >> wrote: >>> It is a train wreck for the suppliers who had to pay to put the items in, >>> ship them from Europe and elsewhere, and pay to ship them back! >>> Michael Farmer >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Oct 14, 2012, at 7:21 PM, Yinan Wang wrote: >>> No offense intended, but how do you interpret this auction as a train wreck? Having worked in the natural history auction industry, this was a very good auction for everything except the high priced pieces. From what I observed, the sell-through rate was probably over 80%, which is great for a natural history auction. Many of the lower and middle ranged items went for 3-10 times the market price. High priced meteorites in general don't seem to sell often at auction. For example, the Willamette was very well marketed last year but did not sell at $650,000. Looking at past auctions, it seems $90,000 to be the top price for a meteorite sold at auction in the past few years, at least with this auction house. Personally I think the market for extreme high end meteorites may not be well established in auction houses yet. Yes, someone will (and has) shell out up to 2 million for a dinosaur at auction but won't do the same for a meteorite. -Yinan On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Adam Hupe wrote: > I think the timing of this auction during the middle of a political > campaign might account for the train wreck witnessed today or the economy > is worse off then anybody could imagine. Prices were all over the place, > some excellent, some poor but not a single item exceeded $50,000.00 even > with the huge buyer's premium in place. A few of my friends watched > parts of this auction on CNN and thought many of the descriptions should > have been based on the importance of the items instead of comparing them > to famous artwork. > > All of the big auction houses are struggling right now from what I have > read. Hopefully things will settle back down after the election. > > Best Regards, > > > Adam > __ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-li
Re: [meteorite-list] Heritage auction
It appears that the big Lunar in Heritage's auction did indeed sell, for $330,000 (including buyers premium). Bringing the auction total to $1,066,000. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49418135/ns/technology_and_science-space/#.UHw8BG_A-So http://fineart.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=6089&lotNo=49049 -Yinan On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Adam Hupe wrote: > I think the timing of this auction during the middle of a political campaign > might account for the train wreck witnessed today or the economy is worse off > then anybody could imagine. Prices were all over the place, some excellent, > some poor but not a single item exceeded $50,000.00 even with the huge > buyer's premium in place. A few of my friends watched parts of this auction > on CNN and thought many of the descriptions should have been based on the > importance of the items instead of comparing them to famous artwork. > > All of the big auction houses are struggling right now from what I have read. > Hopefully things will settle back down after the election. > > Best Regards, > > > Adam > __ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 6383 Contributed by: David R. Childs http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
