[meteorite-list] AD Great oriented Taza 905g

2013-01-23 Thread Tomasz Jakubowski
Dear List Members,
I have beauty oriented 905 g Taza - NWA 859 for sale 
https://picasaweb.google.com/10086119851742847/Taza905g?authkey=Gv1sRgCN-s0bTZ2-WxQg#
(specimen was slightly cleaned)

Any question? please write to illae...@gmail.com


All the best
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[meteorite-list] Hart, TX - The ONLY CK3 from the US!! - AD

2013-01-23 Thread Greg Hupé

Hello All,

Hart, Texas - The ONLY CK3 from the US!!

I had the only six pieces of the new CK3 available on the web page I put 
together yesterday, but before I could announce it, five were gone in an 
instant, including the only complete slice!! To see the ONLY specimen now 
available, here is the link where you can read about it and grab one of the 
rarest meteorite types out there!!


The first to hit the 'Buy' button will be the new owner of this beautiful 
new meteorite. Thank you!!

http://www.naturesvault.net/meteorites/hart.html

Best Regards,
Greg


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[meteorite-list] Novato meteorite

2013-01-23 Thread peterscherff
Hi, 

I am looking for a sample of the Novato meteorite, any out there?

Thanks,

Peter Scherff
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Re: [meteorite-list] Novato meteorite

2013-01-23 Thread john schooler

Hi:

Me too.

John Schooler

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Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:45 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Novato meteorite


Hi, 


I am looking for a sample of the Novato meteorite, any out there?

Thanks,

Peter Scherff
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: OT: Flu shot before Tucson?

2013-01-23 Thread cdtucson
Michael, 
Your PS. message might be a bit harsh. 
Many people believe the flu shot is primarily a money making scheme and their 
are many better alternatives. 
I have no opinion but, this read is interesting. see link ;

http://www.bewellbuzz.com/general/10-reasons-flu-shots-dangerous-flu/

Best to you,
Carl
meteoritemax

--
Cheers

 Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote: 
 This topic seams to go on forever.however, the most common
 Means of infection would be touching something someone who
 Is ill or is about to show symptoms has touchedsuch as an elevator
 Button. 
 We touch our faces some incredable amount of times per day -
 In the dozens and flue germs, I am told, are usually spread BEFORE
 The person has symptoms.
 I always touch the elevator button with my left elbow...or the right
 One if the left is unavailable. I HATE shaking hands, but it is rude not
 To, so use tons of antiseptic hand cleaner.
 Back to meteorites?
 Michael
 PS: If you haven't gotten your flue shot you are both ignorant and
 irresponsible to others (Excepting those with allergies or other
 Medical reasons preventing it, of course)
 
 On 1/21/13 8:12 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  I got to thinking (sometimes a dangerous thing) about what somebody said 
  here
  on the list about the flu being spread by flatulence.  My neighbor swears 
  that
  he caught the flu this way while he was momentarily trapped in a hotel
  elevator with a sick and morbidly obese woman for 30 to 45 seconds.  From 
  what
  I was lead to believe, she damaged the air with a noxious biscuit and he
  showed symptoms a day or two later.  He is still very angry about it since 
  he
  last a couple of weeks worth of income.  I read up on the subject and think 
  he
  is accusing the wrong culprit.
  
  
  This is what the CDC has to say:
  
  
  Person to Person
  
  People with flu can spread it to others up
  to about 6 feet away. Most experts think that flu viruses are spread
  mainly by droplets made when people with flu cough, sneeze or talk.
  These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby
  or possibly be inhaled into the lungs. Less often, a person might also
  get flu by touching a surface or object that has flu virus on it and
  then touching their own mouth or nose.
  
  (To avoid this, people
  should stay away from sick people and stay home if sick. It also is
  important to wash hands often with soap and water. If soap and water are not
  available, use an alcohol-based hand rub. Linens, eating utensils,
  and dishes belonging to those who are sick should not be shared without
  washing thoroughly first. Eating utensils can be washed either in a
  dishwasher or by hand with water and soap and do not need to be cleaned
  separately. Further, frequently touched surfaces should be cleaned and
  disinfected at home, work and school, especially if someone is ill.)
  
  
  Enough from me who is almost fully recovered and has more energy now than in
  the last three weeks,
  
  Adam
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[meteorite-list] NASA's Veteran Mars Rover Ready to Start 10th Year (Opportunity)

2013-01-23 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2013-030  

NASA's Veteran Mars Rover Ready to Start 10th Year
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
January 22, 2013

PASADENA, Calif. -- NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity, one of
the twin rovers that bounced to airbag-cushioned safe landings on Mars
nine years ago this week, is currently examining veined rocks on the rim
of an ancient crater.

Opportunity has driven 22.03 miles (35.46 kilometers) since it landed in
the Meridiani Planum region of Mars on Jan. 24, 2004, PST (Jan. 25,
Universal Time). Its original assignment was to keep working for three
months, drive about 2,000 feet (600 meters) and provide the tools for
researchers to investigate whether the area's environment had ever been
wet. It landed in a backyard-size bowl, Eagle Crater. During those first
three months, it transmitted back to Earth evidence that water long ago
soaked the ground and flowed across the surface.

Since then, the mission's team at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory,
Pasadena, Calif., has driven Opportunity across the plains of Meridiani
to successively larger craters for access to material naturally exposed
from deeper, older layers of Martian history.

Opportunity has operated on Mars 36 times longer than the three months
planned as its prime mission.

What's most important is not how long it has lasted or even how far it
has driven, but how much exploration and scientific discovery
Opportunity has accomplished, said JPL's John Callas, manager of NASA's
Mars Exploration Rover Project. The project has included both
Opportunity and its twin, Spirit, which ceased operations in 2010.

This month, Opportunity is using cameras on its mast and tools on its
robotic arm to investigate outcrops on the rim of Endeavour Crater, 14
miles (22 kilometers) in diameter. Results from this area of the rim,
called Matijevic Hill, are providing information about a different,
possibly older wet environment, less acidic than the conditions that
left clues the rover found earlier in the mission.

Timed with the anniversary of the landing, the rover team has prepared a
color panorama of the Matijevic Hill area. The image is online at:
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/details.php?id=PIA16703 .

JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena,
manages the Mars Exploration Rover Project for NASA's Science Mission
Directorate, Washington. JPL also manages the Mars Science Laboratory
Project and its rover, Curiosity.

For more information about Opportunity, visit http://www.nasa.gov/rovers
and http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov . You can follow the project on
Twitter and on Facebook at: http://twitter.com/MarsRovers and
http://www.facebook.com/mars.rovers .

Guy Webster 818-354-6278
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
guy.webs...@jpl.nasa.gov

2013-030

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[meteorite-list] Another Company Envisions Mining Asteroid Resources

2013-01-23 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1301/22dsi/

Another company envisions mining asteroid resources
BY WILLIAM HARWOOD
STORY WRITTEN FOR CBS NEWS SPACE PLACE  USED WITH PERMISSION
January 22, 2013

Hoping to take the commercialization of space to a higher level, a
second company has jumped into what the founders hope will be a
lucrative emerging market, prospecting for raw materials among
near-Earth asteroids using fleets of low-cost robotic spacecraft, senior
executives said Tuesday.

The long-range goal is to develop an in situ manufacturing capability,
harvesting raw materials and building components in space using
high-tech mini foundries built around sophisticated 3D printers.

This is about the future. This is about making something happen,
company chairman Rick Tumlinson told reporters during a news conference
in Santa Monica, Calif. Deep Space Industries is a space resources
company. We are about prospecting, exploring, harvesting, processing and
manufacturing based on the resources of space.

Overall, our business plan, our idea, is to get into this field as it
begins. And it is beginning today.

Deep Space Industries plans to begin initial operations in the 2015 by
launching a trio of small satellites that will hitch rides to space as
secondary payloads on missions to launch communications satellites and
other large spacecraft.

The solar powered DSI FireFly spacecraft, equipped with propulsion
systems, solar panels and a suite of compact sensors and cameras, then
will head off on high-speed one-way trips to selected targets to
characterize the makeup of the asteroids in question and their
suitability for mining.

The FireFlies will weigh about 55 pounds and be based on designs
currently used for low-cost Cubesat missions sponsored by universities
and other researchers.

If all goes well, DSI will follow the FireFly deployment with slightly
larger DragonFly spacecraft in the 2017 timeframe. Tipping the scales at
about 70 pounds, the DragonFlies will be launched on missions lasting
two to four years with the goal of retrieving 60 to 150 pounds of
asteroid material.

DSI's long range plans include systems to grind up asteroid materials
and a MicroGravity Foundry using a laser-driven 3D printer to build
complex metal components in the absence of gravity.

Company officials did not discuss what it might cost to build and launch
the envisioned spacecraft. But they stressed that no radically new
technology is required to turn the dream into reality.

You don't see any magic, said John Mankins, DSI's chief technical
officer. You don't see any space elevators, you don't see anti-gravity,
you don't see warp drive. There is nothing in the business plan that
Deep Space Industries is pursuing that cannot be done with technology
research that has already been accomplished in laboratories across the
planet.

While the technologies may not have been used in space, the fundamental
technologies are really at hand and it's really a question more of how
to accelerate their application and deployment in a way that makes both
scientific and business sense, Mankins said.

In April 2012, another company, Planetary Resources Inc., announced
plans to identify near-Earth asteroids loaded with ice, precious metals
and other raw materials and then to send robotic landers to selected
targets to carry out mining operations.

Planetary Resources is focused on returning valuable ores to Earth or to
convert ice into rocket fuel to dramatically lower the cost of space
exploration.

Asked if the as-yet untested market could support multiple competitors,
Tumlinson said we all came up together, all of us in the different
companies have sort of the same heritage.

We see it as complimentary competition, he said. And you know what?
One company may be a fluke. Two companies showing up, that's the
beginning of an industry. And so what you're witnessing right now is the
beginning of a real industry that begins beyond low-Earth orbit.

We look forward to working together with these guys. They've got
slightly different aims than we do, but space is big. There's room for
everybody.

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[meteorite-list] Mars Express: Reull Vallis - A River Ran Through It

2013-01-23 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/Reull_Vallis_a_river_ran_through_it


Reull Vallis: a river ran through it
European Space Agency
17 January 2013

ESA's Mars Express imaged the striking upper part of the Reull
Vallis region of Mars with its high-resolution stereo camera last
year.

Reull Vallis, the river-like structure in these images, is
believed to have formed when running water flowed in the distant
martian past, cutting a steep-sided channel through the Promethei
Terra Highlands before running on towards the floor of the vast
Hellas basin. 

This sinuous structure, which stretches for almost 1500 km across
the martian landscape, is flanked by numerous tributaries, one of
which can be clearly seen cutting in to the main valley towards
the upper (north) side.

[Image]
Perspective view of Reull Vallis

The new Mars Express images show a region of Reull Vallis at a
point where the channel is almost 7 km wide and 300 m deep. 

[Image]
Topographic view of Reull Vallis

The sides of Reull Vallis are particularly sharp and steep in
these images, with parallel longitudinal features covering the
floor of the channel itself. These structures are believed to be
caused by the passage of loose debris and ice during the
Amazonian period (which continues to this day) due to glacial
flow along the channel.

The structures were formed long after it was originally carved by
liquid water during the Hesperian period, which is believed to
have ended between 3.5 billion and 1.8 billion years ago.

Similar lineated structures, believed to be rich in ice, can also
be found in many of the surrounding craters.

[Image]
Reull Vallis in context

In the wider context image, the tributary intersecting the main
channel appears to be part of a forking of the main valley into
two distinct branches further upstream before merging back into a
single main valley.

The right (northern) part of the main image is dominated by the
Promethei Terra Highlands with their high and soft-rounded
mountains shown in these images, rising around 2500 m above the
surrounding flat plains.

The perspective view below shows one of these mountains with
nearby sediment-filled impact craters. 

[Image]
Perspective view of Reull Vallis

This region shows a striking resemblance to the morphology found
in regions on Earth affected by glaciation. For example, we can
see circular step-like structures on the inner walls of the
sediment-filled crater in the foreground of the second perspective
view. Planetary scientists think that these may represent former
high water or glacial levels, before ice and water sublimated or
evaporated away in stages at various times.

[Image]
3D view of Reull Vallis

The morphology of Reull Vallis suggests it has experienced a
diverse and complex history, with analogies seen in glacial
activity on Earth. These analogies are giving planetary geologists
tantalising glimpses of a past on the Red Planet not too
dissimilar to events on our own world today.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: OT: Flu shot before Tucson?

2013-01-23 Thread Michael Mulgrew
Since this subject appears open for editorial comment, here's my P.S.:

P.S. If  you are afraid to touch things in public, shun shaking hands,
are constantly washing yourself with antibacterial products, and/or
get a flu shot every year then you are a germaphobe, possibly
mysophobic, and are irresponsibly causing germs and viruses to mutate
and become more aggressive and vaccine-resistant.

The few things injected into my body, the better.

Michael in so. Cal.


  Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote:
 This topic seams to go on forever.however, the most common
 Means of infection would be touching something someone who
 Is ill or is about to show symptoms has touchedsuch as an elevator
 Button.
 We touch our faces some incredable amount of times per day -
 In the dozens and flue germs, I am told, are usually spread BEFORE
 The person has symptoms.
 I always touch the elevator button with my left elbow...or the right
 One if the left is unavailable. I HATE shaking hands, but it is rude not
 To, so use tons of antiseptic hand cleaner.
 Back to meteorites?
 Michael
 PS: If you haven't gotten your flue shot you are both ignorant and
 irresponsible to others (Excepting those with allergies or other
 Medical reasons preventing it, of course)

 On 1/21/13 8:12 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I got to thinking (sometimes a dangerous thing) about what somebody said 
  here
  on the list about the flu being spread by flatulence.  My neighbor swears 
  that
  he caught the flu this way while he was momentarily trapped in a hotel
  elevator with a sick and morbidly obese woman for 30 to 45 seconds.  From 
  what
  I was lead to believe, she damaged the air with a noxious biscuit and he
  showed symptoms a day or two later.  He is still very angry about it since 
  he
  last a couple of weeks worth of income.  I read up on the subject and 
  think he
  is accusing the wrong culprit.
 
 
  This is what the CDC has to say:
 
 
  Person to Person
 
  People with flu can spread it to others up
  to about 6 feet away. Most experts think that flu viruses are spread
  mainly by droplets made when people with flu cough, sneeze or talk.
  These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby
  or possibly be inhaled into the lungs. Less often, a person might also
  get flu by touching a surface or object that has flu virus on it and
  then touching their own mouth or nose.
 
  (To avoid this, people
  should stay away from sick people and stay home if sick. It also is
  important to wash hands often with soap and water. If soap and water are 
  not
  available, use an alcohol-based hand rub. Linens, eating utensils,
  and dishes belonging to those who are sick should not be shared without
  washing thoroughly first. Eating utensils can be washed either in a
  dishwasher or by hand with water and soap and do not need to be cleaned
  separately. Further, frequently touched surfaces should be cleaned and
  disinfected at home, work and school, especially if someone is ill.)
 
 
  Enough from me who is almost fully recovered and has more energy now than 
  in
  the last three weeks,
 
  Adam
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Re: [meteorite-list] Novato meteorite

2013-01-23 Thread Steve
John, Peter and List,

This first part goes to John and Peter.  The second part is not for them as 
they are already keenly aware of and most likely agree with my observations of 
the market forces.

I am pretty certain the one and only piece of Novato that will ever be sold 
publicly was the small slice that sold on EBay back about 2 weeks after the 
fall.

It is my understanding that all the pieces are permanently in strong hands 
and some may never change possession again until maybe 75 years from now.

Second part:

That is the gamble with the new falls.  The prices are high at first, then 
they always come down later...or not.  Sometimes they never ever show up 
again, for any price, in one's lifetime.  I would guess that even though the 
slice sold for, what about $155/gram, I doubt if someone wanted to offer 
$1,000/g they could not get any of it now from those that have some.

Then again, an open offer for $1,000 per gram might get some locals to go out 
and find another piece!  But if a whole new piece showed up, then the value 
would drop from $1,000 per gram down to around $300/g wouldn't it?

Crazy how market forces work isn't it?

Steve Arnold



Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 23, 2013, at 8:52 AM, john schooler johns1...@schoolersinc.com wrote:

 Hi:
 
 Me too.
 
 John Schooler
 
 - Original Message - From: petersche...@rcn.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:45 AM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Novato meteorite
 
 
 Hi, I am looking for a sample of the Novato meteorite, any out there?
 Thanks,
 Peter Scherff
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: OT: Flu shot before Tucson?

2013-01-23 Thread Michael Mulgrew
I was not aware that, in order to have an opinion, I needed to support
it with facts.

By never getting a flu shot, rarely washing my hands, never using
antibacterial wipes, and not being afraid to be in the same room with
someone who coughs or has a runny nose, I get sick maybe once every
couple years.

Salud,
Michael

On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hello List,

 Michael has said P.S. If  you are afraid to touch things in public, shun 
 shaking hands,
are constantly washing yourself with antibacterial products, and/or
get a flu shot every year then you are a germaphobe

 Michael's opinion is not supported by the facts. Avoiding contact, by 
 whatever means, with infected persons and their secretions has been the most 
 effective way of avoiding contracting contagious disease for years. The 
 Japanese people, when ill with a contagious disease, have a reputation for 
 compassion for others that includes all of the prophylactic measures so far 
 mentioned in this thread...plus wearing surgical masks in public.

 By simply washing my hands with soap and hot water and using Handi-Wipes I 
 have reduced, what used to be a two, or three, times a year siege of 
 respiratory illness to not having had an episode in several years.

 Good health to all,

 Count Deiro
 IMCA 3536


 -Original Message-
From: Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com
Sent: Jan 23, 2013 9:45 AM
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: OT: Flu shot before Tucson?

Since this subject appears open for editorial comment, here's my P.S.:

P.S. If  you are afraid to touch things in public, shun shaking hands,
are constantly washing yourself with antibacterial products, and/or
get a flu shot every year then you are a germaphobe, possibly
mysophobic, and are irresponsibly causing germs and viruses to mutate
and become more aggressive and vaccine-resistant.

The few things injected into my body, the better.

Michael in so. Cal.


  Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote:
 This topic seams to go on forever.however, the most common
 Means of infection would be touching something someone who
 Is ill or is about to show symptoms has touchedsuch as an elevator
 Button.
 We touch our faces some incredable amount of times per day -
 In the dozens and flue germs, I am told, are usually spread BEFORE
 The person has symptoms.
 I always touch the elevator button with my left elbow...or the 
 right
 One if the left is unavailable. I HATE shaking hands, but it is rude not
 To, so use tons of antiseptic hand cleaner.
 Back to meteorites?
 Michael
 PS: If you haven't gotten your flue shot you are both ignorant and
 irresponsible to others (Excepting those with allergies or other
 Medical reasons preventing it, of course)

 On 1/21/13 8:12 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I got to thinking (sometimes a dangerous thing) about what somebody said 
  here
  on the list about the flu being spread by flatulence.  My neighbor 
  swears that
  he caught the flu this way while he was momentarily trapped in a hotel
  elevator with a sick and morbidly obese woman for 30 to 45 seconds.  
  From what
  I was lead to believe, she damaged the air with a noxious biscuit and he
  showed symptoms a day or two later.  He is still very angry about it 
  since he
  last a couple of weeks worth of income.  I read up on the subject and 
  think he
  is accusing the wrong culprit.
 
 
  This is what the CDC has to say:
 
 
  Person to Person
 
  People with flu can spread it to others up
  to about 6 feet away. Most experts think that flu viruses are spread
  mainly by droplets made when people with flu cough, sneeze or talk.
  These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby
  or possibly be inhaled into the lungs. Less often, a person might also
  get flu by touching a surface or object that has flu virus on it and
  then touching their own mouth or nose.
 
  (To avoid this, people
  should stay away from sick people and stay home if sick. It also is
  important to wash hands often with soap and water. If soap and water are 
  not
  available, use an alcohol-based hand rub. Linens, eating utensils,
  and dishes belonging to those who are sick should not be shared without
  washing thoroughly first. Eating utensils can be washed either in a
  dishwasher or by hand with water and soap and do not need to be cleaned
  separately. Further, frequently touched surfaces should be cleaned and
  disinfected at home, work and school, especially if someone is ill.)
 
 
  Enough from me who is almost fully recovered and has more energy now 
  than in
  the last three weeks,
 
  Adam
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[meteorite-list] Celestial Sleuths Track Historic Meteor Procession to South Atlantic

2013-01-23 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.txstate.edu/news/news_releases/news_archive/2013/January-2013/Meteors012313.html

Celestial sleuths track historic meteor procession to South Atlantic
Posted by Jayme Blaschke
Texas State University
January 23, 2013

A century ago, one of the most spectacular astronomical sights ever
recorded lit up the skies when a grand procession of meteors blazed
their way through the Earth's atmosphere. The event made headlines from
Toronto to Pennsylvania and New York, and in the days that followed
eyewitness reports poured in from as far away as Western Canada and Bermuda.

Now, on the 100th anniversary of the historic event, astronomers Don
Olson of Texas State University and Steve Hutcheon of the Astronomical
Association of Queensland, Australia, have answered a long-forgotten
call for more information from the pages of the science journal
Nature, establishing a far greater range for the great fireball
procession than previously known.

Olson and Hutcheon publish their findings in the February 2013 issue of
Sky  Telescope magazine, on newsstands now.

A meteor procession occurs when an Earth-grazing meteor breaks up upon
entering the atmosphere, creating multiple meteors traveling in nearly
identical paths. Instead of plunging down through the atmosphere and
burning up within a second or two, as often observed in normal meteor
showers, the fireballs in meteor processions travel almost horizontally,
nearly parallel to the Earth's surface. Each member of a meteor
procession can remain visible to a single observer for about a minute,
and the entire procession can take several minutes to pass by.

On the evening of Feb. 9, 1913, the dazzling procession of meteors
crossed over Canada and the Northeastern United States traveling
northwest to southeast. University of Toronto astronomer Clarence A.
Chant collected accounts from the astonished eyewitnesses and
summarized, To most observers the outstanding feature of the phenomenon
was the slow, majestic motion of the bodies; and almost equally
remarkable was the perfect formation which they retained. Hundreds of
meteors were observed as far west as Saskatchewan, Canada, around 7 p.m.
Mountain Time, and as far east as Bermuda at around 10 p.m. Atlantic
Time, a distance of more than 2,400 miles. In the years that followed,
additional reports from a town in Alberta, Canada, and a ship off the
coast of Brazil extended the confirmed range of the meteor procession to
more than 6,000 miles.

Writing about the procession in Nature in 1916, William F. Denning
observed that Such an extended trajectory is without parallel in this
branch of astronomy. Further reports from navigators in the South
Atlantic Ocean might show that the observed flight was even greater.
Later in 1916 Denning observed in the Journal of the Royal Astronomical
Society of Canada that, according to the most distant ship sighting
known to him, the meteors were still going strongly - and may have
pursued their luminous career far southwards over the South Atlantic
Ocean, but navigators alone, during morning watches, can give us further
information on the subject.

Olson and Hutcheon responded to the call for observations nearly a
century later. Sifting through a vast array of archival material, the
team discovered seven ship reports, all previously unknown, extending
the established track of the procession by an additional thousand miles.

We had the most wonderful help from U.K. and German archives. By the
time they were finished, the German archivists had found six reports and
the U.K. archivists had located one more, Olson said. We have seven
new accounts from ships' meteorological log books that extend the track
farther than ever before. This is the most complete map for this
phenomenon that's ever been compiled.

The track now goes more than 7,000 miles--that's more than a quarter of
the way around the world, he said. That's an almost unbelievable
meteor event!

The search was complicated by several factors. One was that by the time
the meteors crossed all the time zones from Western Canada to reach the
ships in the South Atlantic, it was after midnight and therefore the
relevant local date was Feb. 10. Additionally, the Earth continued to
rotate beneath the meteor procession, effectively moving the track
farther west than expected if it were a simple great circle arc. But
after an extended search, the seven ships in the South Atlantic off the
Brazilian coast turned up to provide valuable data reporting the event.

This is the most complete map ever drawn of the ground track of the
procession. The known ground track is now more than 7,000 miles long,
Olson said. The seven ship accounts are all newly-discovered for this
article. The archivists helped us to find new information about one of
the greatest meteor events.

Unfortunately, the ultimate fate of the spectacular meteor procession
will likely never be known.

They disappeared into the really obscure South Atlantic, outside of the

Re: [meteorite-list] Celestial Sleuths Track Historic Meteor Procession to South Atlantic

2013-01-23 Thread Anne Black

WOW!!!
This should be mandatory reading for anyone who has ever thought that 
the meteor/fireball they saw landed just beyond those 
trees/houses/hills...

This one was seen from Canada to the South Atlantic!


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


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http://www.txstate.edu/news/news_releases/news_archive/2013/January-2013/Meteors012313.html

Celestial sleuths track historic meteor procession to South Atlantic
Posted by Jayme Blaschke
Texas State University
January 23, 2013

A century ago, one of the most spectacular astronomical sights ever
recorded lit up the skies when a grand procession of meteors blazed
their way through the Earth's atmosphere. The event made headlines from
Toronto to Pennsylvania and New York, and in the days that followed
eyewitness reports poured in from as far away as Western Canada and 
Bermuda.


Now, on the 100th anniversary of the historic event, astronomers Don
Olson of Texas State University and Steve Hutcheon of the Astronomical
Association of Queensland, Australia, have answered a long-forgotten
call for more information from the pages of the science journal
Nature, establishing a far greater range for the great fireball
procession than previously known.

Olson and Hutcheon publish their findings in the February 2013 issue of
Sky  Telescope magazine, on newsstands now.

A meteor procession occurs when an Earth-grazing meteor breaks up upon
entering the atmosphere, creating multiple meteors traveling in nearly
identical paths. Instead of plunging down through the atmosphere and
burning up within a second or two, as often observed in normal meteor
showers, the fireballs in meteor processions travel almost horizontally,
nearly parallel to the Earth's surface. Each member of a meteor
procession can remain visible to a single observer for about a minute,
and the entire procession can take several minutes to pass by.

On the evening of Feb. 9, 1913, the dazzling procession of meteors
crossed over Canada and the Northeastern United States traveling
northwest to southeast. University of Toronto astronomer Clarence A.
Chant collected accounts from the astonished eyewitnesses and
summarized, To most observers the outstanding feature of the phenomenon
was the slow, majestic motion of the bodies; and almost equally
remarkable was the perfect formation which they retained. Hundreds of
meteors were observed as far west as Saskatchewan, Canada, around 7 p.m.
Mountain Time, and as far east as Bermuda at around 10 p.m. Atlantic
Time, a distance of more than 2,400 miles. In the years that followed,
additional reports from a town in Alberta, Canada, and a ship off the
coast of Brazil extended the confirmed range of the meteor procession to
more than 6,000 miles.

Writing about the procession in Nature in 1916, William F. Denning
observed that Such an extended trajectory is without parallel in this
branch of astronomy. Further reports from navigators in the South
Atlantic Ocean might show that the observed flight was even greater.
Later in 1916 Denning observed in the Journal of the Royal Astronomical
Society of Canada that, according to the most distant ship sighting
known to him, the meteors were still going strongly - and may have
pursued their luminous career far southwards over the South Atlantic
Ocean, but navigators alone, during morning watches, can give us further
information on the subject.

Olson and Hutcheon responded to the call for observations nearly a
century later. Sifting through a vast array of archival material, the
team discovered seven ship reports, all previously unknown, extending
the established track of the procession by an additional thousand miles.

We had the most wonderful help from U.K. and German archives. By the
time they were finished, the German archivists had found six reports and
the U.K. archivists had located one more, Olson said. We have seven
new accounts from ships' meteorological log books that extend the track
farther than ever before. This is the most complete map for this
phenomenon that's ever been compiled.

The track now goes more than 7,000 miles--that's more than a quarter of
the way around the world, he said. That's an almost unbelievable
meteor event!

The search was complicated by several factors. One was that by the time
the meteors crossed all the time zones from Western Canada to reach the
ships in the South Atlantic, it was after midnight and therefore the
relevant local date was Feb. 10. Additionally, the Earth continued to
rotate beneath the meteor procession, effectively moving the track
farther west than expected if it were a simple great circle arc. But
after an extended search, the seven ships in the South Atlantic off the
Brazilian coast turned up to 

Re: [meteorite-list] Celestial Sleuths Track Historic Meteor Processionto South Atlantic

2013-01-23 Thread Richard Montgomery

Why have I not ever heard of this before??

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http://www.txstate.edu/news/news_releases/news_archive/2013/January-2013/Meteors012313.html

Celestial sleuths track historic meteor procession to South Atlantic
Posted by Jayme Blaschke
Texas State University
January 23, 2013

A century ago, one of the most spectacular astronomical sights ever
recorded lit up the skies when a grand procession of meteors blazed
their way through the Earth's atmosphere. The event made headlines from
Toronto to Pennsylvania and New York, and in the days that followed
eyewitness reports poured in from as far away as Western Canada and 
Bermuda.


Now, on the 100th anniversary of the historic event, astronomers Don
Olson of Texas State University and Steve Hutcheon of the Astronomical
Association of Queensland, Australia, have answered a long-forgotten
call for more information from the pages of the science journal
Nature, establishing a far greater range for the great fireball
procession than previously known.

Olson and Hutcheon publish their findings in the February 2013 issue of
Sky  Telescope magazine, on newsstands now.

A meteor procession occurs when an Earth-grazing meteor breaks up upon
entering the atmosphere, creating multiple meteors traveling in nearly
identical paths. Instead of plunging down through the atmosphere and
burning up within a second or two, as often observed in normal meteor
showers, the fireballs in meteor processions travel almost horizontally,
nearly parallel to the Earth's surface. Each member of a meteor
procession can remain visible to a single observer for about a minute,
and the entire procession can take several minutes to pass by.

On the evening of Feb. 9, 1913, the dazzling procession of meteors
crossed over Canada and the Northeastern United States traveling
northwest to southeast. University of Toronto astronomer Clarence A.
Chant collected accounts from the astonished eyewitnesses and
summarized, To most observers the outstanding feature of the phenomenon
was the slow, majestic motion of the bodies; and almost equally
remarkable was the perfect formation which they retained. Hundreds of
meteors were observed as far west as Saskatchewan, Canada, around 7 p.m.
Mountain Time, and as far east as Bermuda at around 10 p.m. Atlantic
Time, a distance of more than 2,400 miles. In the years that followed,
additional reports from a town in Alberta, Canada, and a ship off the
coast of Brazil extended the confirmed range of the meteor procession to
more than 6,000 miles.

Writing about the procession in Nature in 1916, William F. Denning
observed that Such an extended trajectory is without parallel in this
branch of astronomy. Further reports from navigators in the South
Atlantic Ocean might show that the observed flight was even greater.
Later in 1916 Denning observed in the Journal of the Royal Astronomical
Society of Canada that, according to the most distant ship sighting
known to him, the meteors were still going strongly - and may have
pursued their luminous career far southwards over the South Atlantic
Ocean, but navigators alone, during morning watches, can give us further
information on the subject.

Olson and Hutcheon responded to the call for observations nearly a
century later. Sifting through a vast array of archival material, the
team discovered seven ship reports, all previously unknown, extending
the established track of the procession by an additional thousand miles.

We had the most wonderful help from U.K. and German archives. By the
time they were finished, the German archivists had found six reports and
the U.K. archivists had located one more, Olson said. We have seven
new accounts from ships' meteorological log books that extend the track
farther than ever before. This is the most complete map for this
phenomenon that's ever been compiled.

The track now goes more than 7,000 miles--that's more than a quarter of
the way around the world, he said. That's an almost unbelievable
meteor event!

The search was complicated by several factors. One was that by the time
the meteors crossed all the time zones from Western Canada to reach the
ships in the South Atlantic, it was after midnight and therefore the
relevant local date was Feb. 10. Additionally, the Earth continued to
rotate beneath the meteor procession, effectively moving the track
farther west than expected if it were a simple great circle arc. But
after an extended search, the seven ships in the South Atlantic off the
Brazilian coast turned up to provide valuable data reporting the event.

This is the most complete map ever drawn of the ground track of the
procession. The known ground track is now more than 7,000 miles long,
Olson said. The seven ship 

Re: [meteorite-list] Novato meteorite

2013-01-23 Thread Michael Blood
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Re: [meteorite-list] Celestial Sleuths Track Historic Meteor Procession to South Atlantic

2013-01-23 Thread Sterling K. Webb

Anne and List,

A lengthy and detailed description of the event can
be found here (and downloaded as a PDF if desired):
http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu//full/1956Metic...1..405M/405.000.html

A history of research into the path of the fireballs:
http://www.pa.msu.edu/people/smith/feb1913.pdf

Most of the detailed tracking and calculation of the
flight path described  in this article is simply a repeat
of the work done by John O'Keefe sixty years ago.
Some references to O'Keefe's work can be found in
the wikipedia article on the Fireball Procession:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_procession_of_February_9,_1913

I posted about it to the list on March 26, 2005:
http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg32385.html

O'Keefe conducted a search of 8,000 local newspapers
across the US and Canada for reports of such fireball
trains and plotted the results on the map.  He discovered
that there TWO stripes of fireball trains, parallel to each
other but with the second one displaced to the south.
Whatever the decaying orbital object was, it [may have]
survived through TWO passes of the Earth's atmosphere.


Sterling K. Webb
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WOW!!!
This should be mandatory reading for anyone who has ever thought that 
the meteor/fireball they saw landed just beyond those 
trees/houses/hills...

This one was seen from Canada to the South Atlantic!


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


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http://www.txstate.edu/news/news_releases/news_archive/2013/January-2013/Meteors012313.html

Celestial sleuths track historic meteor procession to South Atlantic
Posted by Jayme Blaschke
Texas State University
January 23, 2013

A century ago, one of the most spectacular astronomical sights ever
recorded lit up the skies when a grand procession of meteors blazed
their way through the Earth's atmosphere. The event made headlines 
from

Toronto to Pennsylvania and New York, and in the days that followed
eyewitness reports poured in from as far away as Western Canada and 
Bermuda.


Now, on the 100th anniversary of the historic event, astronomers Don
Olson of Texas State University and Steve Hutcheon of the Astronomical
Association of Queensland, Australia, have answered a long-forgotten
call for more information from the pages of the science journal
Nature, establishing a far greater range for the great fireball
procession than previously known.

Olson and Hutcheon publish their findings in the February 2013 issue 
of

Sky  Telescope magazine, on newsstands now.

A meteor procession occurs when an Earth-grazing meteor breaks up upon
entering the atmosphere, creating multiple meteors traveling in nearly
identical paths. Instead of plunging down through the atmosphere and
burning up within a second or two, as often observed in normal meteor
showers, the fireballs in meteor processions travel almost 
horizontally,

nearly parallel to the Earth's surface. Each member of a meteor
procession can remain visible to a single observer for about a minute,
and the entire procession can take several minutes to pass by.

On the evening of Feb. 9, 1913, the dazzling procession of meteors
crossed over Canada and the Northeastern United States traveling
northwest to southeast. University of Toronto astronomer Clarence A.
Chant collected accounts from the astonished eyewitnesses and
summarized, To most observers the outstanding feature of the 
phenomenon

was the slow, majestic motion of the bodies; and almost equally
remarkable was the perfect formation which they retained. Hundreds of
meteors were observed as far west as Saskatchewan, Canada, around 7 
p.m.

Mountain Time, and as far east as Bermuda at around 10 p.m. Atlantic
Time, a distance of more than 2,400 miles. In the years that followed,
additional reports from a town in Alberta, Canada, and a ship off the
coast of Brazil extended the confirmed range of the meteor procession 
to

more than 6,000 miles.

Writing about the procession in Nature in 1916, William F. Denning
observed that Such an extended trajectory is without parallel in this
branch of astronomy. Further reports from navigators in the South
Atlantic Ocean might show that the observed flight was even greater.
Later in 1916 Denning observed in the Journal of the Royal 
Astronomical

Society of Canada that, according to the most distant ship sighting
known to him, the meteors were still going 

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-23 Thread valparint
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 7641

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