[meteorite-list] Still Arguing About Pluto
List, The argument about Pluto The Planet or Pluto The Small Body continues: http://www.travelerstoday.com/articles/12524/20141002/pluto-planet-again-sta tus-2014-still-undecided-astronomy-debate-ongoing.htm "The Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics said in a press release that "a dwarf fruit tree is still a small fruit tree, and a dwarf hamster is still a small hamster." In order to convince others that Pluto is a planet again, the center held a debate Sept. 18 to figure out the pros and cons. They let the audience vote, and the audience agreed, therefore for them 'Pluto IS a planet again.'" Some quarrels never end... Sterling Webb __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: White Hills Contributed by: Twink Monrad http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD> auctions on ebay (incl. lunars, martian, CO3.1, main masses, type 3...)
Hello, please have a look at my auctions running on eBay : http://www.ebay.com/sch/moky99/m.html Thanks a lot, Pierre-Marie Pelé Meteor-Center Météorites : achat - vente - expertise - expéditions - recherche http://www.meteor-center.com IMCA 3360 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] UT ID Fireball Meteor Approx. 0435 MDT 02OCT2014
List, UT ID Fireball Meteor Approx. 0435 MDT 02OCT2014 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/10/ut-id-fireball-meteor-02oct2014.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] brilliant Utah fireball!!!
Greetings all, I was treated to my best fireball ever last night, by a wide margin! I had got up at 4:00 and was lying there, about to fall asleep, when Karen started shouting to look. When I opened my eyes, the entire sky out our large, N/NE-facing windows was dazzling white! A moment later, a large, white, slow-moving fireball came into view at the top of our view. I estimated it to be at least half the diameter of the moon and it had a long trail behind it, which Karen says had a green tint. Then it morphed into an orange fireball, with undulating flames trailing out perhaps 3 degrees behind it! A few small chunks fell from it, but for the most part, it remained intact until it cooled into dark flight. The whole show lasted about 5 or 6 seconds, which will remain burned into my memory forever. I usually compare bright meteors to Venus, but this one was more like the sun! It was traveling from N/NW to E/SE and descending at about a 5 to 10 degree angle. It appeared to be right over Capitol Reef N.P., but was probably much further away... possibly over toward Moab or even western Colorado. I'll be filing an AMS report on it and I'm hoping a lot of other people saw it. Linton __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images: October 1, 2014
MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES October 1, 2014 o Continual Dune and Ripple Migration in Nili Patera http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_028575_1890 Nili Patera is a region on Mars in which dunes and ripples are moving rapidly. o Possible Future Mars Landing Site in Oxia Planum http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_037070_1985 Oxia Planum is broad clay-bearing surface between Mawrth and Ares Vallis that has been proposed as a future landing site. o Bright Slope Streaks in Arabia Terra http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_038044_1965 Slope streak formation is among the few known processes currently active on Mars. The cause of the streaks is still debated. o Dome and Barchan Dunes in Newton Crater http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_038117_1385 Barchan dunes form by unidirectional winds and are good indicators of the dominant wind direction. All of the HiRISE images are archived here: http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] CT RI MD NJ NY ONT QC Meteor Approx. 2238 EDT 02OCT2014
List, CT RI MD NJ NY ONT QC Meteor Approx. 2238 EDT 02OCT2014 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/10/md-ri-ont-meteor-02oct2014.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] aziz habibi and his bad behavior
Hi, Mohamed rendition is in-part incorrect. Aziz has been in contact with the owner for quite some time now, and as Rachid, myself and others can attest, the trigger to Habibi's interest was certainly not the interest expressed by Mohamed this past weekend. In an effort sanctioned by Rachid, Aziz had been operating at my request. I've never experienced more misinformation and disinformation dispensed in the commerce of meteorites than in the matter pertaining to this one stone. Why the ever-evolving narrative? in addition to a newly spirited competitiveness between buyers, the seller has played each and every buyer off one another with doses of disinformation. On Oct 2, 2014, at 8:00 AM, Aid Mohamed via Meteorite-list wrote: > Hello listers > A professor called me in order to show me a person who > has an lunar stone, when I see it, its weigh 1345g .i was travelling by > my car around 1000 km, when i meet the Owner of lunar > stone we > confirmed deal on Saturday ,he want the money cash but on saturday and > sunday the bank was closed,but surely we are confirmed the deal and we > have an appointement to pay them on monday cash. When i know the weight > of this stone i remember that Rachid Chaoui have a probleme with same > weight lunar stone,as will as i called Rachid to told him all > informations about this stone, then I know that is same stone that > Rachid Chaoui has an problem about ,and I decide to buy it for Rachid. > The big probleme is when Aziz Habibi know that I confirmed the deal he > contact the > owner and he said for him that he will pay more for it, > On Monday morning I bring the total amount, I meet the owner and he said that > the deal was cancelled there are who can pay more > Si Listers, What do you think about this Habibi's games? > best regards > Aid > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rosetta Comet Fires Its Jets
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2014-335 Rosetta Comet Fires Its Jets Jet Propulsion Laboratory October 02, 2014 The four images that make up a new montage of comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko were taken on September 26, 2014 by the European Space Agency's Rosetta spacecraft. At the time, Rosetta was about 16 miles (26 kilometers) from the center of the comet. In the montage, a region of jet activity can be seen at the neck of the comet. These jets, originating from several discrete locations, are a product of ices sublimating and gases escaping from inside the nucleus. The overlapping and slightly dissimilar angles of the four images that compose the montage are a result of the combined effect of the comet rotating between the first and last images taken in the sequence (about 10 degrees over 20 minutes), and the spacecraft movement during that same time. Launched in March 2004, Rosetta was reactivated in January 2014 after a record 957 days in hibernation. Rosetta is composed of an orbiter and lander. Its objectives since arriving at comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko earlier this month are to study the celestial object up close in unprecedented detail, prepare for landing a probe on the comet's nucleus in November, and after the landing, track the comet's changes through 2015 as it sweeps past the sun. Comets are time capsules containing primitive material left over from the epoch when the sun and its planets formed. Rosetta's lander will obtain the first images taken from a comet's surface and will provide comprehensive analysis of the comet's possible primordial composition by drilling into the surface. Rosetta also will be the first spacecraft to witness at close proximity how a comet changes as it is subjected to the increasing intensity of the sun's radiation. Observations will help scientists learn more about the origin and evolution of our solar system and the role comets may have played in seeding Earth with water, and perhaps even life. Rosetta is an ESA mission with contributions from its member states and NASA. Rosetta's Philae lander is provided by a consortium led by the German Aerospace Center, Cologne; Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research, Gottingen; National Center of Space Studies of France (CNES), Paris; and the Italian Space Agency, Rome. NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, a division of the California Institute of Technology, manages the U.S. participation in the Rosetta mission for NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington. For more information on the U.S. instruments aboard Rosetta, visit: http://rosetta.jpl.nasa.gov More information about Rosetta is available at: http://www.esa.int/rosetta __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Rover Opportunity Preps for Comet Siding Spring Encounter
http://mars.nasa.gov/mer/mission/status.html#opportunity OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Opportunity Takes Twilight Images; Preps for Comet Siding Spring Encounter - sols 3793-3798, September 24, 2014 - September 30, 2014: Opportunity is on the west rim of Endeavour Crater heading towards "Marathon Valley," a putative location for abundant clay minerals only a mile (1.6 kilometers) to the south. The rover is examining the ejecta field of the small crater named "Ulysses." On Sol 3793 (Sept. 24, 2014), the rover bumped 5.4 feet (1.65 meters) towards a surface target, called "Hoover," collecting panoramic imagery before and after the drive. A test of a twilight Panoramic Camera (Pancam) observation was performed as preparation for the observations Comet Siding Spring in a few weeks (Oct. 19, 2014). That evening on Sol 3793, the rover experienced both an "amnesia" event and a reset of the rover. The reset cancelled all running sequences and put the rover into auto mode. The rover was healthy, so the project restored the rover to normal sequence operation on Sol 3795 (Sept. 26, 2014). On that sol, Opportunity performed a Rock Abrasion Tool brush of the surface target Hoover, collected a Microscopic Imager mosaic of the brushed area, then placed the Alpha Particle X-ray Spectrometer for an overnight integration. That evening, another amnesia event occurred, but was benign. On Sol 3798 (Sept. 30, 2014), Opportunity bumped again, about 6.6 feet (2 meters), towards another surface target for in-situ (contact) investigation. The project continues to investigate the anomalous events associated with the Flash file system. Opportunity is otherwise in good health. As of Sol 3798, the solar array energy production was 630 watt-hours with an atmospheric opacity (Tau) of 0.943 and a solar array dust factor of 0.735. Total odometry is 25.34 miles (40.78 kilometers). __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Still Arguing About Pluto
And the Sun is a dwarf star, Sterling. Larry > List, > > The argument about Pluto The Planet > or Pluto The Small Body continues: > http://www.travelerstoday.com/articles/12524/20141002/pluto-planet-again-sta > tus-2014-still-undecided-astronomy-debate-ongoing.htm > > "The Harvard-Smithsonian Center for > Astrophysics said in a press release > that "a dwarf fruit tree is still a > small fruit tree, and a dwarf hamster > is still a small hamster." In order to > convince others that Pluto is a planet > again, the center held a debate Sept. 18 > to figure out the pros and cons. They let > the audience vote, and the audience > agreed, therefore for them 'Pluto IS > a planet again.'" > > Some quarrels never end... > > Sterling Webb > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] aziz habibi and his bad behavior
Hi, When Mohamed inferred his interaction with the seller was this past Saturday—that was a detail I could speak to. Given the reframing, I can only say this story has more wrinkles than a retirement home. It has also, unfortunately, been a banquet of missteps, false accusations and greed. That said, I remain steadfast in my belief that an honest seller is the fulcrum between honest and dishonest outcomes. Specifically, it is a fact that the written contract to which Mohamed referred is not the only written contract to have been violated in this matter. As for the specimen itself, I have every reason to believe it is in transit on its way to me—and thus the pent-up sentiments now being broadcast on the list. On Oct 3, 2014, at 4:09 AM, rachid chaoui wrote: > Hello freinds > All what Aid Mohamed descrive about this story is right ,what i should clear > is that was not last Week end it was two week end a go. > unfrontunatel we wanted to over this bad story as soon as possible but as > Mohamed said the Bad Behavior of Habibi let the story to be long a bit > All the best. > > > > > 2014-10-02 19:17 GMT+02:00 Gary Fujihara via Meteorite-list > : > I will stand in allegiance with Rachid Chaoui and Aid Mohamed. Both, like > most Moroccans, are honorable meteorite dealers. It is not right to > generalize all peoples as bad because of one individual. Azule. > > Sent from Gary's iPhone > > > On Oct 2, 2014, at 2:00 AM, Aid Mohamed via Meteorite-list > > wrote: > > > > Hello listers > > A professor called me in order to show me a person who > > has an lunar stone, when I see it, its weigh 1345g .i was travelling by > > my car around 1000 km, when i meet the Owner of lunar > > stone we > > confirmed deal on Saturday ,he want the money cash but on saturday and > > sunday the bank was closed,but surely we are confirmed the deal and we > > have an appointement to pay them on monday cash. When i know the weight > > of this stone i remember that Rachid Chaoui have a probleme with same > > weight lunar stone,as will as i called Rachid to told him all > > informations about this stone, then I know that is same stone that > > Rachid Chaoui has an problem about ,and I decide to buy it for Rachid. > > The big probleme is when Aziz Habibi know that I confirmed the deal he > > contact the > > owner and he said for him that he will pay more for it, > > On Monday morning I bring the total amount, I meet the owner and he said > > that the deal was cancelled there are who can pay more > > Si Listers, What do you think about this Habibi's games? > > best regards > > Aid > > __ > > > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > -- > Rachid Chaoui > IMCA # 4157 > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Still Arguing About Pluto
Larry, And a dwarf star is still a small star (whatever that means). This Dwarf-Star-thing is probly why our planetary system Doan Get No Respect and the Aliens never visit us... except in certain regions of The Internet. Sterling -- -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lebofsky via Meteorite-list Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 9:45 AM To: Sterling K. Webb Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Still Arguing About Pluto And the Sun is a dwarf star, Sterling. Larry --- > List, > > The argument about Pluto The Planet > or Pluto The Small Body continues: > http://www.travelerstoday.com/articles/12524/20141002/pluto-planet-aga > in-sta tus-2014-still-undecided-astronomy-debate-ongoing.htm > > "The Harvard-Smithsonian Center for > Astrophysics said in a press release > that "a dwarf fruit tree is still a > small fruit tree, and a dwarf hamster > is still a small hamster." In order to convince others that Pluto is a > planet again, the center held a debate Sept. 18 to figure out the pros > and cons. They let the audience vote, and the audience agreed, > therefore for them 'Pluto IS a planet again.'" > > Some quarrels never end... > > Sterling Webb > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Still Arguing About Pluto
> > "The Harvard-Smithsonian Center for > Astrophysics said in a press release > that "a dwarf fruit tree is still a > small fruit tree, and a dwarf hamster > is still a small hamster." In order to > convince others that Pluto is a planet > again, the center held a debate Sept. 18 > to figure out the pros and cons. They let > the audience vote, and the audience > agreed, therefore for them 'Pluto IS > a planet again.'" > Quoting John Oliver: "Who gives a shit? You dont need peoples opinion on a fact. You might as well have a poll asking: Which number is bigger, 15 or 5? or Do owls exist? or Are there hats?" __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Tirhert with sand sample, Mauerkirchen L6, Kosice, Chely, Iphone case in E-Bay
Dear List Members! Ending soon E-Bay some rare and unique auctions! Tirhert Eucrite (nice and fresh glassy fusion crust) with sand sample of fallen area Mauerkirchen L6 the first austrian meteorite from 1770's years Nice individual Kosice H5 with contraction cracks from 2010 Chelyabinsk 26.5 gr with broken glass and sample rock from Chebakul Lake IPhone 5/5S cases with meteorite themes (Fukang, CV3 - stunning) And others as Thin Sections (Tirhert, Kosice, impactites), Etched and individual Agoudals Thank you for your bid or interest. E-Bay: http://www.ebay.com/usr/cbo891 Zsolt Kereszty IMCA#6251 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - ebay: 11 great auctions starting at USD 1.99!
Hello All, I have 11 ebay auctions, ending in less than 2 days. They all start @ $ 1.99 and no reserve! http://shop.ebay.com/pema9/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg= Thank you, Peter Peter Marmet - IMCA #2747 http://www.thinsections.ch http://www.marmet-meteorites.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Beautiful fully crusted 36.33 gram Thuathe individual for sale!!! (forwarded from Brandon D - b1dunov...@aol.com)
Hello fellow meteorite fanatics! I have for sale a 36.33 gram fully crusted Thuathe meteorite from the 2002 fall in Lesotho, Africa. This was purchased by Mike Farmer and Eric Olsen which was later acquired by Impactika. It is a beautiful and large specimen of a beautiful H4 fall. On July 21, 2002, a shower of stones rained down over several villages on the Thuathe plateau of Lesotho. Total known weight of about 45kg. $250.00 US. PayPal payments only please. International buyers welcome. Comes in glass display jar for instant storage or display! For pictures please email me and I will get them to you ASAP. Thank you for the consideration. Brandon D. IMCA #9312 Hello fellow meteorite fanatics! I have for sale a 36.33 gram fully crusted Thuathe meteorite from the 2002 fall in Lesotho, Africa. This was purchased by Mike Farmer and Eric Olsen which was later acquired by Impactika. It is a beautiful and large specimen of a beautiful H4 fall. On July 21, 2002, a shower of stones rained down over several villages on the Thuathe plateau of Lesotho. Total known weight of about 45kg. $250.00 US. PayPal payments only please. International buyers welcome. Comes in glass display jar for instant storage or display! For pictures please email me and I will get them to you ASAP. Thank you for the consideration. Brandon D. b1dunov...@aol.com IMCA #9312 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: September 29 - October 3, 2014
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES September 29 - October 3, 2014 o South Pole Layers (29 September 2014) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20140929a o Dark Slope Streaks (30 September 2014) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20140930a o Valles Marineris (01 October 2014) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20141001a o Hebes Chasma (02 October 2014) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20141002a o Apollinaris Mons (03 October 2014) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20141003a All of the THEMIS images are archive here: http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] To Find Meteorites, Listen to the Legends of Australian Aborigines
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/find-meteorites-listen-legends-australian-aborigines-180952941/ To Find Meteorites, Listen to the Legends of Australian Aborigines Oral traditions may have preserved records of impacts over thousands of years and could lead to fresh scientific discoveries By Sarah Zielinski smithsonian.com October 3, 2014 In the heart of Australia, at a remote site south of Alice Springs, the land is pitted with about a dozen strange depressions. Don't drink the rainwater that pools there, or a fire devil will fill you with iron. So goes one Aboriginal tale that has been passed down across generations. The site is the Henbury meteorite field, which was created about 4,700 years ago when a large, iron-filled meteorite slammed into Earth's atmosphere and broke apart, scattering fragments. The Aboriginal warning is perhaps one of the clearest examples of an oral tradition that has preserved the memory of an ancient meteorite strike, argues Duane Hamacher at the University of New South Wales in Australia. According to Hamacher, such tales may be vital clues pointing toward future finds. "These traditions could lead to the discovery of meteorites and impact sites previously unknown to Western science,' he writes in a paper that will appear in an upcoming issue of Archaeoastronomy and that was published online August 27. Most myths and tales are just stories passed down through the ages, altered over time like a vast game of "Telephone." But some are based on actual geological or astronomical events that occurred long ago. The search for the truth behind those stories has inspired a field of science called geomythology. Most stories have been passed down for only 600 or 700 years, geoscientist Patrick Nunn of the University of the Sunshine Coast in Australia told Smithsonian earlier this year. There are outliers: The Klamath people tell a legend about a battle between two powerful spirits, which details the eruption of Mount Mazama and the creation of Crater Lake in Oregon about 7,700 years ago. But most stories don't last that long. "These kinds of things are very, very rare," Nunn said. In his study, Hamacher identifies several oral traditions from indigenous Australians that he says can be linked to meteorites. The Henbury craters, for instance, were found in 1899 but were not immediately recognized as impact sites. At the time, cattle station owner Walter Parke called them "one of the most curious spots I have ever seen in the country" in a letter to anthropologist Frank Gillen. 'To look at it I cannot but think it has been done by human agency, but when or why, goodness knows." In 1921, a man named James M. Mitchell visited the Henbury site with an Aboriginal guide who refused to go near the depressions, saying the place was where a fire "debil-debil" (devil) had come out of the sky and killed everything. Thirteen years later, Mitchell returned. By then, the astronomical connection had been made - a prospector found iron slugs in the craters in 1931 - but Mitchell's new Aboriginal guide again expressed fear of the site. He said that his people wouldn't camp within two miles of the depressions, get closer than half a mile or collect the water that filled some. A fire devil would fill them with iron should they dare. The guide knew this, he said, because his grandfather had seen the fire devil come from the sun. Hamacher found similar tales that other Aboriginal people told to visitors in the first half of the 20th century. The fire devil is probably representative of that long-ago event, Hamacher concludes. "The current evidence indicates that Aboriginal people witnessed the event, recorded the incident in oral traditions and those traditions remained intact through the 1930s and possibly later,' he writes. "If the tradition is a living memory of the event, it is well over 4,500 years old." Scientists today travel to the ends of the Earth searching for meteorites. Sometimes they even race to the site of an impact looking for fragments. These space rocks are leftovers from the building blocks of the solar system and can yield important clues to the origins of planets - and perhaps even help us understand the spark of life on Earth. Using local myths to uncover ancient impacts could offer scientists a fresh way to track down some of these celestial arrivals. Join science writer Sarah Zielinski and hear more tales of geomythology at the Smithsonian Associates event "Oracles, Chimeras, and Bears, Oh My: Is There Science Behind Ancient Stories?" at the S. Dillon Ripley Center in Washington, D.C., on October 7. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NJ NY Meteor Approx. 8"00 PM EDT 03OCT2014 updates pending!
List, NJ NY Meteor Approx. 8"00 PM EDT 03OCT2014 updates pending! http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/10/breaking-news-nj-ny-meteor-03oct2014.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update - NWA Ordinary Chondrites
Hi Bulletin-Watchers, There are three new approvals. All are OC's from the NWA DCA. Link : http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=%2A&sfor=names&ants=&falls=&valids=&stype=contains&lrec=50&map=ge&browse=&country=All&srt=name&categ=All&mblist=All&rect=&phot=&snew=2&pnt=Normal%20table&dr=&page=0 Best regards and Happy Huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] My 15 year Anniversary
Wow, how time flies! Ebay just sent me the following via an E-card. "Congratulations! It's your 15-year eBay anniversary Mr-Meteorite, We want to say thanks and let you know how much we value having you as an eBay community member. All of us at eBay wish you the very best in the year to come." "Thank you! John Donahoe President and CEO, eBay Inc." Of course, some of you may remember me as Meteorfright for a couple of years before I became Mr-Meteorite. It's odd to think that I found my first meteorite when I was just 33 - I'm 50 now. My little daughter that accompanied me on my first meteorite hunt was only 8 years old - today she's 25 and has two kids of her own. Back then Gold Basin was the big thing and Jim, John and Twink were what we all aspired to be. Bob Haag was famous beyond words. Norton's "Rocks from Space" was enlightening and exciting. It's been a fun ride, lets go again! -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
