Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites with amino acids

2014-11-20 Thread Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list

Hi Rob and all!

Nice list, Rob!  Thanks!

I've had the opportunity to work with several Jblit Winselwan fragments 
while making thin sections of them.  It was obvious someone washed or 
rinsed a couple of the samples I had.  In what, I do not know.
Additionally, once the pieces came apart it was clear with both the none 
washed samples and the washed samples, terrestrial contamination 
occurred at some point in it's life on earth.  All of them I have had 
reminded me of goat turds as to who they were formed and stuck 
togetheror a part of one that had already came apart.   Very 
delicate material, but could be taken apart.


So, I wonder what affect this would have on any amino acid study where 
strict handling protocol of the sample did not occur and what affect 
this would have on a study where terrestrial contamination is obvious.
Would scientist still be able to isolate particles for studying amino 
acids and not be too concerned about contamination???


Have a great day!

Jim Wooddell


On 11/18/2014 8:07 PM, Matson, Rob D. via Meteorite-list wrote:

Amino acids have been found in the following meteorites of which I'm aware:

Murray (CM2)
Murchison (CM2)
Tagish Lake (C2 ungrouped)
Almahata Sitta (anomalous ureilite)
Sutter's Mill (CM2)
Allan Hills 77306 (CM2)
Allan Hills 83100 (CM2)
Asuka 88120 (CM2)
Asuka 881334 (CM2)
Lewis Cliffs 90500 (CM2)
Lone Wolf Nunataks 94102 (CM2)
Yamato 74662 (CM2)
Yamato 791198 (CM2) - most amino-acid-rich meteorite known
Yamato 793321 (CM2)
Belgica 7904 (CM2)
Orgueil (CI1)
Ivuna (CI1)

I am sure there are others that I have missed.  --Rob
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Re: [meteorite-list] Video of meteor smoke ring

2014-11-20 Thread Chris Peterson via Meteorite-list

It's certainly real. That's a typical meteor train dissipation pattern.

Chris

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On 11/19/2014 7:17 PM, Robert Woolard via Meteorite-list wrote:

List,

One of our local radio stations posted this link to a short video captured by an amateur astronomer 
that, if real (??),  seems to show a meteor producing a pretty cool " smoke ring" upon 
disintegration and/or the train being twisted around by high altitude winds.  The train it produced 
appears to have lasted for several minutes in this sped up video.  I have had trouble in the past 
with my email provider in getting links to go thru to the list if I type it "intact", so 
you will need to enter it as below, but obviously without any spaces at all between any of the 
parts. If you haven't seen this before, and if this is real event and not just computer generated, 
it is pretty cool, and only 10 secs long.

Robert Woolard

http://   vim eo.  com/  110535098


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Re: [meteorite-list] MASSSIVE Russian Event Asteroid? 14NOV2014

2014-11-20 Thread Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list
Ben, List,

There may be a confusion in some 
reports. There is a city named 
Sverdlovsk in eastern Ukraine (now 
held by the separatists) but also 
a Sverdlovsk Oblast (or "federal 
district") far to the east in 
Russia (ocated on the eastern slopes 
of the Middle and North Urals and 
the Western Siberian Plain):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sverdlovsk_Oblast
This where this event took place.

The city of Sverdlovsk there is now 
called Ekaterinburg. It was the home 
town of Boris Yeltsin, I believe.

Sterling Webb

-Original Message-
From: Ben Fisler [mailto:fisler...@msn.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 5:26 AM
To: Sterling K. Webb
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] MASSSIVE Russian Event Asteroid? 14NOV2014

Hi Stirling, 
   There was a similar event that took place in the Ukraine in the same
24 hour period.  I have seen the video, and there is a pulse of light before
the main event, just as the event in Russia.

 Best Regards,  Ben Fisler, Phoenix

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 19, 2014, at 10:52 PM, "Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list"
 wrote:

> Marcin, List
> 
> The Sverdlovsk region is quite isolated and dense with weapon 
> development centers of all kinds. In 1979, a germ warfare agent, 
> aerosolized anthrax spores, escaped from a laboratory where they were 
> being manufactured in weaponized form and killed an uncertain number 
> of people (~100?).
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/plague/sverdlovsk/
> and
> http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ussr-anthrax-outbreak-still-a-mystery/
> 
> "A local news site suggests there's an old chemical plant outside the 
> nearby town of Rezh, the explosion of which would be consistent with 
> this phenomenon, and one local on the forum of Astronomy.ru wrote 
> there were also reports of the military setting off ammunition."
>
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/weird-science/meteor-ufo-flash-over-russia-ma
y-have-earthly-origin-n251081
> 
> Maybe they had to "sterilize" something?
> In any case, it's very unlikely this was a natural celestial event, 
> I'm afraid.
> 
> Sterling Webb
> --
> -Original Message-
> From: Meteorite-list 
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of 
> PolandMET via Meteorite-list
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:07 AM
> To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] MASSSIVE Russian Event Asteroid? 
> 14NOV2014
> 
> Hi
> We all like to have Chellyabinsk x10 ofcourse but my first feeling was 
> nuclear explosion. Also there seems to be fog or dense clouds so the 
> whole flash will be false.
> But yes, this could be just big explosion in factory.
> 
> -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
> http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
> http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
> http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
> [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> I think some kind of explosion, aircraft or chemical plant. Meteor 
>> would be faster and move. This was something else I think.
>> 
>> 
>> Michael Farmer
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 10:05 AM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> List,
>>> What ever it was you will not want to miss these videos!
>>> http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/11/russia-super-bolide
>>> -
>>> asteroid-strike.html
>>> 
>>> Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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[meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update : Five New OC's, and Three with Large TKW.

2014-11-20 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list
Hi Bulletin Watchers,

I do not usually send out notices for batches of unremarkable OC's.
However, three of these meteorites have very large TKW's - 200kg,
160kg, and 155kg.  Given the large TKW, some of these meteorites will
undoubtedly show up on the collector market.

Link : 
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=%2A&sfor=names&ants=&falls=&valids=&stype=contains&lrec=50&map=ge&browse=&country=All&srt=name&categ=All&mblist=All&rect=&phot=&snew=2&pnt=Normal%20table&dr=&page=0

Best regards and Happy Huntings,

MikeG

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Re: [meteorite-list] MASSSIVE Russian Event Asteroid? 14NOV2014

2014-11-20 Thread Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list
Yekaterinburg is a city of millions, and is also known as "Tankograd" because 
of the massive military industry there, WWII forced all military production and 
testing over the Urals mountains to protect from German invasion. I was there 
and everywhere you look there are military bases and tanks on the roads, jets 
flying overhead, artillery pieces lined up on the trains etc. Nuclear, 
chemical, biological weapons testing is all done in this region. 
This even was surely military in nature, regardless of whether the Russian 
military pretends it has no idea what it was. A video showing the explosion on 
the ground has been found, so whatever the event was, it wasn't a meteorite 
fall.
Michel Farmer

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 20, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ben, List,
> 
> There may be a confusion in some 
> reports. There is a city named 
> Sverdlovsk in eastern Ukraine (now 
> held by the separatists) but also 
> a Sverdlovsk Oblast (or "federal 
> district") far to the east in 
> Russia (ocated on the eastern slopes 
> of the Middle and North Urals and 
> the Western Siberian Plain):
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sverdlovsk_Oblast
> This where this event took place.
> 
> The city of Sverdlovsk there is now 
> called Ekaterinburg. It was the home 
> town of Boris Yeltsin, I believe.
> 
> Sterling Webb
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Fisler [mailto:fisler...@msn.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 5:26 AM
> To: Sterling K. Webb
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] MASSSIVE Russian Event Asteroid? 14NOV2014
> 
> Hi Stirling, 
>   There was a similar event that took place in the Ukraine in the same
> 24 hour period.  I have seen the video, and there is a pulse of light before
> the main event, just as the event in Russia.
> 
> Best Regards,  Ben Fisler, Phoenix
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 19, 2014, at 10:52 PM, "Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list"
>  wrote:
> 
>> Marcin, List
>> 
>> The Sverdlovsk region is quite isolated and dense with weapon 
>> development centers of all kinds. In 1979, a germ warfare agent, 
>> aerosolized anthrax spores, escaped from a laboratory where they were 
>> being manufactured in weaponized form and killed an uncertain number 
>> of people (~100?).
>> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/plague/sverdlovsk/
>> and
>> http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ussr-anthrax-outbreak-still-a-mystery/
>> 
>> "A local news site suggests there's an old chemical plant outside the 
>> nearby town of Rezh, the explosion of which would be consistent with 
>> this phenomenon, and one local on the forum of Astronomy.ru wrote 
>> there were also reports of the military setting off ammunition."
> http://www.nbcnews.com/science/weird-science/meteor-ufo-flash-over-russia-ma
> y-have-earthly-origin-n251081
>> 
>> Maybe they had to "sterilize" something?
>> In any case, it's very unlikely this was a natural celestial event, 
>> I'm afraid.
>> 
>> Sterling Webb
>> --
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Meteorite-list 
>> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of 
>> PolandMET via Meteorite-list
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:07 AM
>> To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] MASSSIVE Russian Event Asteroid? 
>> 14NOV2014
>> 
>> Hi
>> We all like to have Chellyabinsk x10 ofcourse but my first feeling was 
>> nuclear explosion. Also there seems to be fog or dense clouds so the 
>> whole flash will be false.
>> But yes, this could be just big explosion in factory.
>> 
>> -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
>> http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
>> http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
>> http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
>> [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> I think some kind of explosion, aircraft or chemical plant. Meteor 
>>> would be faster and move. This was something else I think.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michael Farmer
>>> 
 On Nov 18, 2014, at 10:05 AM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list 
  wrote:
 
 List,
 What ever it was you will not want to miss these videos!
 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/11/russia-super-bolide
 -
 asteroid-strike.html
 
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[meteorite-list] The Sound of Philae's Touchdown on Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko

2014-11-20 Thread Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list


http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2014/11/20/the-sound-of-touchdown/

The Sound of Touchdown
European Space Agency
November 20, 2014

Sensors in the feet of Rosetta's lander Philae have recorded the sound 
of touchdown as it first came into contact with Comet 
67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko. 
The instrument, SESAME-CASSE, was turned on during the descent and clearly 
registered the first touchdown as Philae came into contact with the comet, 
in the form of vibrations detected in the soles of the lander's feet.


[Audio File]
Audio file credit: ESA/Rosetta/Philae/SESAME/DLR - USAGE: This file is 
copyright protected and is NOT now available under any CC licensing. It 
may be used only for non-profit, education or personal use. For any other 
use, please contact DLR, Institute of Planetary Research, Asteroids and 
Comets, Berlin, Klaus Seidensticker.

Note that this is an actual sound file; i.e. it is a recording of mechanical 
vibrations at acoustic frequencies. No modification was necessary except 
for some technical adjustments (e.g. the .wav format requires amplitude 
normalisation). Actual frequency content and duration are unchanged.

SESAME is the lander's Surface Electrical Sounding and Acoustic Monitoring 
Experiment, and comprises three suites of instruments:

* CASSE - the Comet Acoustic Surface Sounding Experiment, which allows 
mechanical parameters of the surface to be deduced, along with details 
of the structure of the subsurface;

* DIM - the Dust Impact Monitor, which measures properties of impacting 
comet grains;

* PP - the Permittivity Probe, which determines one of the key electrical 
properties of the material beneath Philae, which is linked to the water 
ice content of the surface.

Klaus Seidensticker from the DLR Institute of Planetary Research says: 
"Our data record the first touchdown and show that Philae's feet first 
penetrated a soft surface layer - possibly a dust layer - several centimetres 
thick until they hit a hard surface - probably a sintered ice-dust layer 
- a few milliseconds later."

Data from the SESAME-DIM instrument meanwhile suggest that current cometary 
activity at the final landing site is low, while preliminary data from 
SESAME-PP are consistent with a large amount of water ice under the lander. 
Combined with additional data from other instruments, the goal is to derive 
mechanical properties of the comet. However, first impressions already 
suggest that the surface of 67P/C-G is significantly structured, mixing 
soft and hard aspects.

Klaus adds: "At the moment, we are also supporting the effort to reconstruct 
the flight path of the lander after first touchdown, collecting all available 
data across the various instruments. This is important for SESAME, especially 
CASSE, as we need to know the speed, impact angle, and rotation rate before 
the first touchdown, but also the final landing place."

SESAME Principal Investigators:

CASSE: Klaus Seidensticker (PI for the SESAME consortium), German Aerospace 
Center, Institute of Planetary Research, Asteroids and Comets, Berlin, 
Germany

DIM: Harald Krueger, Max-Planck-Institute for Solar System Research, Göttingen, 
Germany

PP: Walter Schmidt, Finnish Meteorological Institute, Helsinki, Finland



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[meteorite-list] AD: Meteorites for Sale

2014-11-20 Thread Jason Phillips via Meteorite-list
Hello List,

I am offering up some older specimens from my collection, several that
have not been offered in many years and some, I believe, have never
been offered before publically.


1. Whitecourt, Canada- This 21.42 gram specimen was obtained during my
trip with Rob Wesel and Mike Bandli to the crater. It was sold by Mike
Bandli and has been through several collections before ending up back
in mine. This specimen shows many of the great features that the
Whitecourt meteorite is known for. The price of this specimen is $110.

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w589/jnbran/IMG_0087_zps11df79e3.jpg


2. Gebel Kamil, Egypt- This is a complete Ataxite specimen that weighs in
at 296.30 grams. This is a beautiful specimen with orientation
features.  Both specimen cards are present. This specimen is $155.

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w589/jnbran/IMG_0089_zps5d2ea1f5.jpg


3.  Mundrabilla, Australia-  Offered here is a beautiful 82.14 gram
sculpted individual that looks like a cat in the sitting position for
you Zoomorph collectors.  The price of this
specimen is $100.

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w589/jnbran/IMG_0080_zps87ee41ca.jpg


4.  Mundrabilla, Australia-  Offered here is a beautiful 38 gram
sculpted individual that looks like a heart (just in time for
Valentines day).  The price of this
specimen is $70.

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w589/jnbran/IMG_00761_zps47ec0173.jpg


5.  Henbury, Australia- This excellent individual displays orientation
features and weighs in at 64 grams.  The price of this
specimen is $120.

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w589/jnbran/IMG_0079_zps15a32089.jpg


 6.  Taza (NWA 859), Morocco-  This specimen is and endcut that is
etched on the face and displays beautifully.  It weighs 4.8 grams and
comes with three collection labels and is mounted in a membrane box.
The price of this specimen is $15.

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w589/jnbran/IMG_0086_zps834a8693.jpg


7.  Muonionalusta, Sweden- This is an etched slice with crust that
weighs 48.6 grams.  This specimen comes with three collection labels
and comes in a riker style mount.  The price of this specimen is $35.

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w589/jnbran/IMG_0085_zpsb84c8266.jpg


 8.  NWA 753, Morocco- This is an early North West Africa specimen of
the extremely rare type R3.9.  This meteorite was found in 2001.  This
specimen weighs 0.67 grams and is a part slice polished on both sides.
The price on this specimen is $10.

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w589/jnbran/IMG_0083_zpsc72623d4.jpg


9.  Bilanga, Burkina Faso- This is the extremely rare witnessed fall
Diogenite from 10/27/1999.  This specimen weighs 0.209 grams and does
have a small patch of fusion crust.  Price on this specimen is $20.

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w589/jnbran/IMG_0082_zpsc255326b.jpg


10.  Karoonda, Australia-  This meteorite is the type specimen for the
CK class and is an extremely rare fall from 11/25/1930.  CK4's are
almost impossible to obtain due to their rarity.  This specimen comes
weighs 0.03 grams and comes with three different collection labels and
is priced at $25.

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w589/jnbran/IMG_00571_zps1686ec89.jpg


11.  NWA 2140, Morocco- This CV3 was found in 2003 and is a beautiful
display of colors and chondrules.  This specimen is a very nice sized
slice when compared to the weight to surface area ratio.  It weighs
4.66 grams and comes in a riker mount with two collection labels.
Priced at $20.

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w589/jnbran/IMG_0048_zpse53c8458.jpg


12.  Chergach, Mali-  This 3.07 gram broken individual comes from the
fall in July 2007.  Chergach is classified as a H5.  Price on this
specimen is $10.

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w589/jnbran/IMG_0077_zps0c3d46d5.jpg


13.  Campo del Cielo- This is a 380 gram tumbled individual.  This
would be a perfect hand specimen to show to friends.  The price on
this specimen is $35.

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w589/jnbran/IMG_0069_zps7e375e47.jpg


14.  Campo del Cielo- This is a 358 gram tumbled individual that is
somewhat sculpted.  This would be a perfect hand specimen to show to
friends.  The price on this specimen is $35.

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w589/jnbran/IMG_00701_zpsb203d44e.jpg


15.  Sikhote Alin, Russia-  These are high quality old stock Sikhote's
that show great characteristics.  The weights are 9.92, 14.3, 6.4,
11.7, 14.4 grams.  These are priced as a group at $2.25/gram.

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w589/jnbran/IMG_0050_zps7229eb0e.jpg


16.  Dimmitt, Texas- Here we have a 238 gram individual stone that is
classified as a H4 breccia whose strewn field was discovered in 1942.
This stone is very nice looking and a very nice representative of this
early find.  The price of this specimen is $175.

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w589/jnbran/IMG_0044_zps6a505b98.jpg


17.  Wiluna, Australia-  Wiluna is an incredible H5 witnessed fall
from 9/2/196

[meteorite-list] AD : Tirhert 43 grams fragment for sale on ebay

2014-11-20 Thread Pelé Pierre-Marie via Meteorite-list
Hello List members,

I'm offering a 43 grams fragment of the Tirhert meteorite on ebay, with of 
course a wonderful crust.  

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111502469327

Have a look, you'll love this piece.



 
Pierre-Marie Pelé 
Meteor-Center 
Météorites : achat - vente - expertise - expéditions - recherche 
http://www.meteor-center.com 
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2014-11-20 Thread Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 7733

Contributed by: Ray Watts

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp
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