[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Allende Contributed by: Gourgues Denis http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=09/16/2018 __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mount Dooling Stolen
Hi All, Blaine had a 292.6g Mount Dooling stolen from his room yesterday afternoon. I posted this fact on his yahoo groups list with pictures yesterday but have yet to see it posted. I hoped I could post links to the pictures through the posting but yahoo seems to be holding it up. Once (if) it does come through I'll re-post this with the links (if they actually work). I know Blaine has had trouble with yahoo delaying posts before. Blake __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] September Issue of Meteorite Times now up
Hello Everyone, The September issue of Meteorite Times is now up. https://www.meteorite-times.com/monthly-issues/ Enjoy! Paul __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Busy Week in Near Earth Asteroid Traffic
Several near-Earth asteroids buzz by our neighborhood in the same week, Eric Mac, Cnet, september 0, 2018 https://www.cnet.com/news/several-near-earth-asteroids-buzz-by-our-neighborhood-in-the-same-week/ An older article is: America Isn't Ready to Handle a Catastrophic Asteroid Impact, New Report Warns by Ryan F. Mandelbaum< Gizmodo https://gizmodo.com/america-isnt-ready-to-handle-a-catastrophic-asteroid-im-1827014709 Yours, Paul H. __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Asteroid miners could use Earth’s atmosphere to catch space rocks
Asteroid miners could use Earth’s atmosphere to catch space rocks By Joshua Rapp, Science, Aug. 29, 2018 http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/08/asteroid-miners-could-use-earth-s-atmosphere-catch-space-rocks I love the caption to the article's illustration. " Engineers have come up with a plan to purposefully steer asteroids into Earth’s atmosphere and mine them for resources in orbit. What could possibly go wrong?" Yours, Paul H. __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite
Not my taste and I would never buy such a monstrosity, but let's keep in mind that from the point of view of "destruction" of valuable scientific material, this is really no big deal in this particular case. Gibeon is abundant; no scientist needs a piece for study anymore. And if one objects to this type of "destruction by artist", what about all the destruction by micromounters, selling/collecting tiny fragments of meteorites broken down until they have lost all paragenetic context? And some day, in the not too distant future, material from known asteroids will be brought to Earth, and all these miscellaneous bits that have dropped to Earth from unidentified bodies will suddenly have a much lesser scientific value. Cheers, Alfredo On 15 September 2018 at 05:45, Carl Esparza via Meteorite-list < meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > I saw this at the Tucson Gem show before it went to auction. click link > below. > https://news.artnet.com/market/meteorite-skull-carving-bonhams-360752 > Very impressive. > Carl > -- > Love & Life > > michael kelly via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > Guess the real questionis where did the scrap go? I can admire the > craftsmanship. And i am sure it presents a challenging medium to work. I > can also imagine 15 lbs of srap going into a rubbish bin :( probably more > scrapped than i will ever be lucky enough to tuck into my collection. > > On Thursday, September 13, 2018, 9:31:33 PM EDT, John Lutzon via > Meteorite-list wrote: > > > > Maybe this 3rd post will get posted.? > > > > I really need Someone to explain to me why it is totally > > acceptable for someone to cut/slice and/or bathe in acid every meteorite > > they can get their hands on (some very rare) and then sell them > > at a considerable profit and possibly make a living---but to shape it > > into Any other shape is a shame. I hope I spelled Hypocrisy correctly. > > > > Hopefully this skull will wind up in a museum and be preserved for > hundreds > > if not thousands of years---long after the average collector's specimens > > are long gone. > > > > Love ya Anne, John > > __ > > > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and > the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite
As a meteorite hunter, collector and one who shares with the scientific community, collectors, museums and others, I can say that most who are tasked with cutting any meteorite preserve the cuttings to be sold in small pieces and even the cutting dust and metal shavings are saved and used in a variety of ways. As an artist I can appreciate the workmanship and beauty of the skull and wish I had some of the ancient artifacts made from meteoritic materials. Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog & Reference Site) www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest & eBay) http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault From: michael kelly via Meteorite-list Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:42 PM To: John Lutzon ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite Guess the real questionis where did the scrap go? I can admire the craftsmanship. And i am sure it presents a challenging medium to work. I can also imagine 15 lbs of srap going into a rubbish bin :( probably more scrapped than i will ever be lucky enough to tuck into my collection. On Thursday, September 13, 2018, 9:31:33 PM EDT, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list wrote: Maybe this 3rd post will get posted.? I really need Someone to explain to me why it is totally acceptable for someone to cut/slice and/or bathe in acid every meteorite they can get their hands on (some very rare) and then sell them at a considerable profit and possibly make a living---but to shape it into Any other shape is a shame. I hope I spelled Hypocrisy correctly. Hopefully this skull will wind up in a museum and be preserved for hundreds if not thousands of years---long after the average collector's specimens are long gone. Love ya Anne, John __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite
Well, if anyone ever has any 'scrap' iron meteorite, I'll be delighted to take it off their hands. That is a material that I routinely hot forge back into solid material that I can then use in my Damascus for knife blades. Minimal waste from processing slices, spheres, skulls, etc.:) Dan ___ Guess the real question is where did the scrap go? I can admire the craftsmanship. And i am sure it presents a challenging medium to work. I can also imagine 15 lbs. of scrap going into a rubbish bin :( probably more scrapped than i will ever be lucky enough to tuck into my collection. On Thursday, September 13, 2018, 9:31:33 PM EDT, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > wrote: Maybe this 3rd post will get posted.? I really need Someone to explain to me why it is totally acceptable for someone to cut/slice and/or bathe in acid every meteorite they can get their hands on (some very rare) and then sell them at a considerable profit and possibly make a living---but to shape it into Any other shape is a shame. I hope I spelled Hypocrisy correctly. Hopefully this skull will wind up in a museum and be preserved for hundreds if not thousands of years---long after the average collector's specimens are long gone. Love ya Anne, John __ __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite
Greg, Yeah that sure is the case when a person in the meteorite community is doing the cutting. Tracking that no qiestions asked. My concern is when non meteorite enthusiasts are doing the cutting. Someone dead focused on getting their vision created who is an artist/maker bery well might not. I am not even saying that is the case with this artist. Just stating in general i could easily see it happening. When it is an art person using a meteorite not a meteorite person using art. I’m with you on the artifacts, fascinating that meteorite iron being early abailable was a source of material pre iron making. On Sunday, September 16, 2018, 9:57:17 AM EDT, Greg Hupe wrote: As a meteorite hunter, collector and one who shares with the scientific community, collectors, museums and others, I can say that most who are tasked with cutting any meteorite preserve the cuttings to be sold in small pieces and even the cutting dust and metal shavings are saved and used in a variety of ways. As an artist I can appreciate the workmanship and beauty of the skull and wish I had some of the ancient artifacts made from meteoritic materials. Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog & Reference Site) www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest & eBay) http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault From: michael kelly via Meteorite-list Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:42 PMTo: John Lutzon ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite Guess the real questionis where did the scrap go? I can admire the craftsmanship. And i am sure it presents a challenging medium to work. I can also imagine 15 lbs of srap going into a rubbish bin :( probably more scrapped than i will ever be lucky enough to tuck into my collection. On Thursday, September 13, 2018, 9:31:33 PM EDT, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list wrote: Maybe this 3rd post will get posted.? I really need Someone to explain to me why it is totally acceptable for someone to cut/slice and/or bathe in acid every meteorite they can get their hands on (some very rare) and then sell them at a considerable profit and possibly make a living---but to shape it into Any other shape is a shame. I hope I spelled Hypocrisy correctly. Hopefully this skull will wind up in a museum and be preserved for hundreds if not thousands of years---long after the average collector's specimens are long gone. Love ya Anne, John __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] was Skull ...Cosby Creek Iron Meteorite
For perspective --and trivia. Be it remembered that the Cosby Creek 3 ton(?) Meteorite found in the early 1800s was "mined" for iron which was used to make Tennessee and Pennsylvania Long Rifles--and horse shoes. In fact one of the test used by collectors of these 200 year old flintlocks to prove authenticy is testing for nickel content! I don't know how much nor where the remainents of Cosby Creek are, but interesting to know that a large iron meteorite, found outside the Great Smokie Mountains National Park, had a big part in settling the frounteer of Eastern America as well the defense of the Alamo and future Republic of Texas 180+ years ago. I am pretty sure there was no discussion at the time about whether it should be kept as found forva future museum --or divided up, smelted and forged into rifle barrels. The remaining unanswered question is what kind of tool did they use to break it up for transport? This was pre wire saw and diamond blades. Whichever, i understand it took years to complete the process. Elton Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 11:45 AM, paleskiw--- via Meteorite-list wrote: I totally agree with you. Like all the Seymchan Pallasite Meteorite Polished and Etched for saleI have hohkam tomohawk heads that are made from meteorites that are hundreds of years old. Ancient cultures have used meteorites yo maje sp many tools Sent from my MetroPCS 4G LTE Android device -- Original message--From: John Lutzon via Meteorite-listDate: Thu, Sep 13, 2018 7:41 PMTo: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;Cc: Subject:Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite__ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Campaign 2018
Hi All, I agree as well Carlos. For 10 years iv'e seen the IMCA go from quiet to non-existent. Someone needs to light the fuse. If I were 15 years younger I would find a way to have the IMCA site on the local/national news channel once a month. Some people say it's do to FB--fine, do it--have your party--But someone/ somehow needs to figure the "algorithm" to get this Organization into the main stream. I'm beginning to believe that some/most members are content with just paying their annual dues to state that they're a member of the IMCA. Hmmm?$$ B.S I know that many members are doing Much work towards educating others about meteoritic subjects. Great, lets hear about it and why not call a local news organization about it -- they might pick it up. We claim to be a International Meteorite Collectors Association-- yet our Home site is non-existent for 350 days of each year. SOMEONE fix this. John Lutzon IMCA#1896 - Original Message - From: "John Cabassi via IMCA" To: "William O'hara" Cc: "IMCA-List" Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [IMCA List] Campaign 2018 G'Day Members I agree with Bill. Carlos has posted up an important issue that should be addressed so that everyone has access to upcoming events. This definitely would be helpful for those wishing to attend such events. Thanks Carlos for bringing that up Cheers John Cabassi IMCA #2125 On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 7:05 PM, William O'hara via IMCA wrote: > Hi Carlos! > Welcome to IMCA! > > Thanks for making the suggestion! I think it is a good one. It would not > be a difficult task for someone to commit to to doing possibly on a monthly > basis. Perhaps we could have a volunteer for each region or continent > remind the community of upcoming shows that could provide opportunities for > in-person interaction, just as Ann had suggested for me. > > Keep the ideas coming! > > Thanks > > Bill > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 15:16 Carlos Muñecas Muñoz > wrote: > > > Hello all of you > > > > I am IMCA member just from a few days, I am from Spain and about business > > matters I am in NY. > > > > I just read Anne mail about Denver mineral show, I would like to propose, > > if it is possible, IMCA send fairs information. I didn’t know nothing > about > > Denver fair, but sure, if I had known before, I would have gone. > > > > It is only a recommendation > > > > Thank you and Best Regards > > > > Carlos Muñecas > > I.M.C.A. #8187 > > > > Carlos Muñecas > > Un saludo > > > > Enviado desde mi iPhone > > > > > El 16 sept 2018, a las 12:27, Anne Black via IMCA > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > > > > > Since you are right here near Denver, why don't you come down to the > > Mineral Show at the Denver Mart today, it is the last day of the Show but > > you could still meet a few people. > > > > > > And I'd like to meet you too. > > > > > > > > > Anne Black - Past President. > > > IMPACTIKA.com > > > impact...@aol.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: William O'hara via IMCA > > > To: IMCA-List > > > Sent: Sun, Sep 16, 2018 2:19 am > > > Subject: [IMCA List] (no subject) > > > > > > Hello IMCA! > > > > > > > > > My name is Bill O'Hara and I am running for a position on the IMCA > board > > of > > > directors. > > > > > > I would like to introduce myself and provide some background. > > > > > > > > > > > > While I was listed as a living in Texas, I recently moved to Colorado > to > > > accept a position at the Sierra Nevada Corporation as a Principal > > Engineer. > > > Before I moved to Colorado I work at NASA's Johnson Space Center for > > twenty > > > years. My specialty is human spaceflight habitats and systems. I was > a > > > crew instructor and flight controller for the International Space > Station > > > in my early years before moving to advanced development work on the > Orion > > > spacecraft program for Lockheed Martin, and now work in SNC'S advanced > > > development group. I have a B.S. in Aerospace Engineering and an M.S. > > in > > > Geophysics. I have four kids, including a four year old that is crazy > > > about rocks. > > > > > > > > > > > > Meteorites are a hobby of mine. I have purchased meteorites through a > > > number of IMCA members and developed a sizable collection. This hobby > > > allows me to apply my interest in geology and geophysics which I don't > > get > > > to use in my regular day job. While I haven't had the opportunity to > > > publish articles on meteorites, I did create a series of blog posts > which > > > you can read here: Part 1 > > > < > > https://timeandspaceweb.wordpress.com/2016/07/16/meteoritical-me-part-1- > beginnings/ > > >, > > > Part 2 > > > < > > https://timeandspaceweb.wordpress.com/2016/07/30/meteoritical-me-part-2- > favorites/ > > > > > > and Part 3 > > > < > > https://timeandspaceweb.wordpress.com/2016/10/09/meteoritical-me-part-3- > collecting/ > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > I am excited to run for a director po