[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

[Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list]

Friday, Mar 24 2023 Meteorite Picture of the Day: Henbury

Contributed by: Darryl Pitt

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/24/2023
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Re: [meteorite-list] CNEOS1 2014-01-08 hunt in P.N.G. Harvard physicist Avi Loeb is organizing a $1.5 million expedition

[Rob Matson via Meteorite-list]

I’m with you, Mike – what the hell?! This is the stuff of tabloids. If people 
want to find an underwater meteorite, they can search the shore of Lake Ontario 
for the (much larger than sand) fragments of asteroid 2022 WJ1 that impacted 
there November last year, or the western edge of Lake Michigan for the bolide 
that broke up over it 6 years ago on Feb. 6th, 2017, appearing on 5 separate 
Doppler radars. In either case, the water is far, far shallower and the 
prospects better for success than finding anything (natural or artificial) over 
a mile underwater.  --Rob

From: Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 3:33 PM
To: drtanuki; Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] CNEOS1 2014-01-08 hunt in P.N.G. Harvardphysicist 
Avi Loeb is organizing a $1.5 million expedition

Good grief. What nonsense. A mile deep. In the pacific  ocean. Particles the 
size of rice. Years under the water…… what a scam 


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On Thursday, March 23, 2023, 8:04 AM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:
https://dnyuz.com/2023/03/23/a-harvard-physicist-is-racing-to-prove-this-meteorite-is-an-alien-probe/

A Harvard Physicist Is Racing to Prove This Meteorite Is an Alien Probe
March 23, 2023

The world’s top alien hunter is about to embark on his most ambitious—and 
potentially history-making—mission yet. Harvard physicist Avi Loeb is 
organizing a $1.5-million expedition to Papua New Guinea to search for 
fragments of a very strange meteorite that impacted just off the coast of the 
Pacific nation in 2014.

There’s compelling evidence that the half-meter-wide meteorite, called CNEOS1 
2014-01-08, traveled from outside our solar system. And that it’s made of 
extremely hard rock or metal—a material that’s hard and tough enough to prove 
the meteorite isn’t a meteorite at all. Maybe it’s an alien probe.

It’s a long-shot effort. After years of work, Loeb and his team have, with a 
big assist from the U.S. military, narrowed down CNEOS1 2014-01-08’s likely 
impact zone to a square kilometer of the ocean floor, nearly two kilometers 
underwater. But the fragments themselves are probably just a few millimeters in 
size. It’s worse than looking for a needle in a haystack. Loeb is basically 
preparing to look for big sand in a square-kilometer patch of small sand. 
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Re: [meteorite-list] CNEOS1 2014-01-08 hunt in P.N.G. Harvard physicist Avi Loeb is organizing a $1.5 million expedition

[Mark Hammergren via Meteorite-list]

Agreed on all points. This is worse than nonsense: Avi Loeb and his
tabloid-quality antics make a mockery of SETI and astrobiology. Public and
congressional ridicule of a "search for little green men" doomed the NASA
High Resolution Microwave Survey in the early 90's. It would have surveyed
the sky in millions of frequencies using the Arecibo radio telescope,
partially for SETI purposes, and was already funded and running after a
decade of development. I worked with people who were employed in that
project and who had the rug pulled out from under their feet with
essentially no warning. Some had to leave the field of astronomy to find
other employment. Serious SETI research did not recover from that disaster
for more than 20 years.
What will Loeb advocate "studying" next? Chemtrails? HAARP mind control?
Qanon? Disgusting.

On Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 9:53 AM Rob Matson via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> I’m with you, Mike – what the hell?! This is the stuff of tabloids. If
> people want to find an underwater meteorite, they can search the shore of
> Lake Ontario for the (much larger than sand) fragments of asteroid 2022 WJ1
> that impacted there November last year, or the western edge of Lake
> Michigan for the bolide that broke up over it 6 years ago on Feb. 6th,
> 2017, appearing on 5 separate Doppler radars. In either case, the water is
> far, far shallower and the prospects better for success than finding
> anything (natural or artificial) over a mile underwater.  --Rob
>
>
>
> *From: *Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list
> 
> *Sent: *Thursday, March 23, 2023 3:33 PM
> *To: *drtanuki ; Meteorite-list
> 
> *Subject: *Re: [meteorite-list] CNEOS1 2014-01-08 hunt in P.N.G.
> Harvardphysicist Avi Loeb is organizing a $1.5 million expedition
>
>
>
> Good grief. What nonsense. A mile deep. In the pacific  ocean. Particles
> the size of rice. Years under the water…… what a scam
>
>
> Sent from Smallbiz Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
>
> On Thursday, March 23, 2023, 8:04 AM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
>
> https://dnyuz.com/2023/03/23/a-harvard-physicist-is-racing-to-prove-this-meteorite-is-an-alien-probe/
>
>
>
> A Harvard Physicist Is Racing to Prove This Meteorite Is an Alien Probe
>
> March 23, 2023
>
>
>
> The world’s top alien hunter is about to embark on his most ambitious—and
> potentially history-making—mission yet. Harvard physicist Avi Loeb is
> organizing a $1.5-million expedition to Papua New Guinea to search for
> fragments of a very strange meteorite that impacted just off the coast of
> the Pacific nation in 2014.
>
>
>
> There’s compelling evidence that the half-meter-wide meteorite, called
> CNEOS1 2014-01-08, traveled from outside our solar system. And that it’s
> made of extremely hard rock or metal—a material that’s hard and tough
> enough to prove the meteorite isn’t a meteorite at all. Maybe it’s an alien
> probe.
>
>
>
> It’s a long-shot effort. After years of work, Loeb and his team have, with
> a big assist from the U.S. military, narrowed down CNEOS1 2014-01-08’s
> likely impact zone to a square kilometer of the ocean floor, nearly two
> kilometers underwater. But the fragments themselves are probably just a few
> millimeters in size. It’s worse than looking for a needle in a haystack.
> Loeb is basically preparing to look for big sand in a square-kilometer
> patch of small sand. more
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Most confirmed falls in a year?

[Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list]

Interesting and informative responses. Like Mr. Lyon said, I would
think the modern world would provide for increased detection and
recovery rates. But Rob makes some very good points about the
outdoor-culture of the world in the 1930's compared to now. Light
pollution is also a factor for visual detection.

So, 1933 is the reigning champion. We have come relatively close a
couple of times, and I would expect that record will be broken in the
coming yearsor will it stand for 100 years or more?

For those keeping track, the number of classified/confirmed falls
since the year 2000 :

2023 : zero, but four are pending.
2022 : 5 (six if you count "Junction City" GA which is still a pending
classification)
2021 : 8
2020 : 13
2019 : 8
2018 : 14
2017 : 8
2016 : 12
2015 : 9
2014 : 7
2013 : 8
2012 : 10
2011 : 7
2010 : 7
2009 : 8
2008 : 11
2007 : 9
2006 : 6
2005 : ZERO (one, if you count "Montney" Canada, which was recovered,
not classified)
2004 : 7
2003 : 9
2002 : 9
2001 : 5
2000 : 4

184 total classified falls since Jan 01, 2000.

Average of 8 per year between 2000 and 2022.

There have been 9 years with above average falls during that time.

Source : Meteoritical Bulletin and the Galactic Stone "Recent Falls" page.



On 3/20/23, Matson, Rob D. [US-US] via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Hi Mark – in 1933, people spent more time outdoors than they do today (and,
> probably less important, they enjoyed much darker night skies). I expect
> that the annual rate of meteorite-producing falls has remained about
> constant over the last century, with year-to-year variations consistent with
> Poisson statistics.
>
> With improved technology (weather satellites, all-sky cameras, dashcams,
> ring cameras, Doppler radar, etc.), the odds of successful recovery of a
> given witnessed fall improves, but that factor may not be enough to counter
> the (likely) decrease in witnessed events (particularly daytime events).
> Remember that bolides with the greatest chance of producing rocks on the
> ground fall between local noon and midnight – from meteoroids that are
> “catching” up to the earth from behind and thus have slower average entry
> velocities than those occurring between midnight and noon. In the 1930s, a
> greater fraction of the population were outdoors from 8 am to 8 pm – a
> 12-hour time window when 64% of meteorite falls occur (based on Met.
> Bulletin data from 1860-2017). Of course, there are a lot more people in
> 2023 than in 1933, but most of those outdoors during the day are likely
> driving or staring at their phones (or both). 😉  --Rob
>
> From: Meteorite-list  On Behalf
> Of Mark Lyon via Meteorite-list
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 7:29 AM
> To: Frank Cressy 
> Cc: Finbarr Connolly ; Meteorite List
> 
> Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [meteorite-list] Most confirmed falls in a year?
>
> That's surprising that there would be a record in 1933.  I figured new
> technology, rising populations, and an increase in meteorite hunters would
> mean that there were more witnessed falls more recently than 90 years ago.
> Have the number of witnessed falls per year tended to be significantly
> higher more recently or has it stayed about the same?
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 6:52 AM Frank Cressy via Meteorite-list
> mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>>
> wrote:
> In addition to the 17 witnessed falls worldwide for 1933, that year also had
> two others that are possible falls, Elton, Texas and Willard (b) New
> Mexico.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Frank
>
> On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 03:45:48 PM PDT, Finbarr Connolly via
> Meteorite-list
> mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>>
> wrote:
>
>
> 1933 has the record with 17. 1949 had 13 and 1950, 76 and 98 all with 12.
>
> Finbarr.
>
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 9:20 PM Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list
> mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>>
> wrote:
> Hi Listees,
>
> I was recently wondering, what year has the most confirmed witnessed falls?
>
> I have been closely following falls since the year 2000, and according
> to my records we have a few contenders in recent years. I am thinking
> one of these must be the most.
>
> 2018 has 15 falls, but two of them are not official (HaH 346, aka
> Ghadamis, was classified as a find) and a fall over Pakistan was not
> recovered or recorded. This leaves 14 classified falls in a 12 month
> period :
>
> Jan 05, 2018 - Matarka (L6 chondrite) : Morocco
> Jan 16, 2018 - Hamburg (H4 chondrite) : Michigan USA
> Feb 16, 2018 - Ablaketka (H5 chondrite) : Kazakhstan
> Apr 19, 2018 - Aba Panu (L3.6 chondrite) : Nigeria
> Jun 01, 2018 - Mangui (L6 chondrite) : China (Hammer)
> Jun 02, 2018 - Motopi Pan (Howardite) : Botswana
> Jun 21, 2018 - Ozerki (L6 chondrite) : Russia
> Jul 10, 2018 - Renchen (L5-6 chondrite) : Germany
> Jul 26, 2018 - Glendale (L6 chondrite) : Arizona USA
> July 27, 2018 - Benenitra (L6 chondrite) : Madagascar
> Aug 12-17?, 2018 - "Bhakkar" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Pakistan
> Aug 21, 2018 - Gueltat Zemmour (L4 c

[meteorite-list] ET Question

[John Lutzon via Meteorite-list]

  Hello,

   Little green men, I think not. Spending 7 figures to Possibly find 
another fall/classification over a mile underwater seems 
to
   be a waste of resources. It took 22 years to recover a large, known location 
object -- Liberty Bell 7.

  So, to ET:
  If Voyager, which is presently 14+ billion miles out, 
somehow crashed where it too was observed & recovered 
would
 it be considered ET. Same with the remnants of the DART probe. 
To me, it seems like a bunch of semantics with the
 added waste of time and someone else's money. If it shows up 
here from out there it Is ET
 I'm still waiting for a large chunk of a room temperature 
superconductor to land in my mailbox  mailbox will be for 
sale.

JL
.---  .-..  ---  ..-  - 

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Re: [meteorite-list] ET Question

[Paul Kurimsky via Meteorite-list]

.-  - -.  .-.  .  ..- -  ..  -  ….   .- - -   .-. !!!  

Paul Kurimsky
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> On Mar 24, 2023, at 1:55 PM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>  Hello,
> 
>   Little green men, I think not. Spending 7 figures to Possibly find 
> another fall/classification over a mile underwater seems 
> to
>   be a waste of resources. It took 22 years to recover a large, known 
> location object -- Liberty Bell 7.
> 
>  So, to ET:
>  If Voyager, which is presently 14+ billion miles out, 
> somehow crashed where it too was observed & recovered 
> would
> it be considered ET. Same with the remnants of the DART 
> probe. To me, it seems like a bunch of semantics with the
> added waste of time and someone else's money. If it shows up 
> here from out there it Is ET
> I'm still waiting for a large chunk of a room temperature 
> superconductor to land in my mailbox  mailbox will be for 
> sale.
> 
>JL
> .---  .-..  ---  ..-  - 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] ET Question

[Sean T. Murray via Meteorite-list]

Agree with JR?

I think you missed a "." :-)

Sean

-Original Message- 
From: Paul Kurimsky via Meteorite-list

Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 6:55 PM
To: John Lutzon
Cc: Meteorite List
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ET Question

.-  - -.  .-.  .  ..- -  ..  -  ….   .- - -   .-. !!!

Paul Kurimsky
Sent from my iPhone
kd...@flash.net


On Mar 24, 2023, at 1:55 PM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:



 Hello,

  Little green men, I think not. Spending 7 figures to Possibly find 
another fall/classification over a mile underwater seems

to
  be a waste of resources. It took 22 years to recover a large, known 
location object -- Liberty Bell 7.


 So, to ET:
 If Voyager, which is presently 14+ billion miles out, 
somehow crashed where it too was observed & recovered

would
it be considered ET. Same with the remnants of the DART 
probe. To me, it seems like a bunch of semantics with the
added waste of time and someone else's money. If it shows 
up here from out there it Is ET
I'm still waiting for a large chunk of a room temperature 
superconductor to land in my mailbox  mailbox will be for

sale.

   JL
.---  .-..  ---  ..-  -

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Re: [meteorite-list] ET Question

[John Lutzon via Meteorite-list]

  Ha, no big deal..Just no spelling bee's for him. It's the thought that 
counts.
.---  .-..  ---  ..-  -


- Original Message - 
From: "Sean T. Murray" 
To: "Paul Kurimsky" ; "John Lutzon" 
Cc: "Meteorite List" 
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ET Question


Agree with JR?

I think you missed a "." :-)

Sean

-Original Message- 
From: Paul Kurimsky via Meteorite-list
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 6:55 PM
To: John Lutzon
Cc: Meteorite List
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ET Question

.-  - -.  .-.  .  ..- -  ..  -  ….   .- - -   .-. !!!

Paul Kurimsky
Sent from my iPhone
kd...@flash.net


> On Mar 24, 2023, at 1:55 PM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list
>  wrote:
>
> 
>  Hello,
>
>   Little green men, I think not. Spending 7 figures to Possibly find
> another fall/classification over a mile underwater seems
> to
>   be a waste of resources. It took 22 years to recover a large, known
> location object -- Liberty Bell 7.
>
>  So, to ET:
>  If Voyager, which is presently 14+ billion miles out,
> somehow crashed where it too was observed & recovered
> would
> it be considered ET. Same with the remnants of the DART
> probe. To me, it seems like a bunch of semantics with the
> added waste of time and someone else's money. If it shows
> up here from out there it Is ET
> I'm still waiting for a large chunk of a room temperature
> superconductor to land in my mailbox  mailbox will be for
> sale.
>
>JL
> .---  .-..  ---  ..-  -
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] ET Question

[Paul Kurimsky via Meteorite-list]

Yep! :)

Paul Kurimsky
Sent from my iPhone
kd...@flash.net


> On Mar 24, 2023, at 8:34 PM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>  Ha, no big deal..Just no spelling bee's for him. It's the thought that 
> counts.
> .---  .-..  ---  ..-  -
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sean T. Murray" 
> To: "Paul Kurimsky" ; "John Lutzon" 
> Cc: "Meteorite List" 
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 11:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ET Question
> 
> 
> Agree with JR?
> 
> I think you missed a "." :-)
> 
> Sean
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Paul Kurimsky via Meteorite-list
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 6:55 PM
> To: John Lutzon
> Cc: Meteorite List
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ET Question
> 
> .-  - -.  .-.  .  ..- -  ..  -  ….   .- - -   .-. !!!
> 
> Paul Kurimsky
> Sent from my iPhone
> kd...@flash.net
> 
> 
>> On Mar 24, 2023, at 1:55 PM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>>  Little green men, I think not. Spending 7 figures to Possibly find
>> another fall/classification over a mile underwater seems
>> to
>>  be a waste of resources. It took 22 years to recover a large, known
>> location object -- Liberty Bell 7.
>> 
>> So, to ET:
>> If Voyager, which is presently 14+ billion miles out,
>> somehow crashed where it too was observed & recovered
>> would
>>it be considered ET. Same with the remnants of the DART
>> probe. To me, it seems like a bunch of semantics with the
>>added waste of time and someone else's money. If it shows
>> up here from out there it Is ET
>>I'm still waiting for a large chunk of a room temperature
>> superconductor to land in my mailbox  mailbox will be for
>> sale.
>> 
>>   JL
>> .---  .-..  ---  ..-  -
>> 
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