[meteorite-list] AD : Ordinary Chondrite lot.
Dear Friends, I have a few kilograms of fine quality ordinary chondrites for sale. If that interests you, come off list. Cheers Aziz __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : Moon lot
Hello List Members, Up for sale, a 145g lunar indivs. Off list for pricing and photographs. Best regards Aziz __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : New Lunar Material
Hello List, New lunar material available for sale, off list please. Best regards Aziz __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : Ordinary Chondrites lot
Dear friends, Got a nice looking lot of OC for sale, let me know if you're in the market for that kind of material please. Best regards Aziz __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : NWA METEORITES
blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } Hello List Members, I have some interesting meteorites for sale. Best regardsAziz__ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : NWA METEORITES SALE
Hello List Members, I have some interesting meteorites for sale. Best regards Aziz __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : pre-Tucson /mars
Hi list, Something that you may want to take to the show: 104kg lot of desert stony meteorites, mixed qualities and types. 1830g rumuruti chondrite, moderately weathered but it will make good slices. A cute little H7 chondrite 108g. One large Taza about 1kg. Mars is joining too, I will start taking orders from 5g (fragments) and up for the best price ever, all you need is sending me a message with mars subject. once the list grows, I will reply with availability. Best regards Aziz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad ; R chondrite
Hello list, Up for sale, a nice dealer size/price peice of rumurutite chondrite. Don't make it public Mr serious buyer. Best regards Aziz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD ; 108g H7 impact melt...
Hello List, I have a nice H7 IMB stone for sale, off list if interested please. Best regards Aziz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : 2kg nice oriented Ureilite
Hello List, Please contact me off list if you are looking for a nice oriented ureilite,, I got a 2kg peice. Best regards Aziz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : Taza
Hello List, Up for sale, 1kg Taza lot at good price. off list please Best regards Aziz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : Taza for a very competitive price
Hi all, Taza indivs for a very competitive price, off list please. Best Aziz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : NWA 859 Taza 700g indivs for sale
Hi All, Up for sale, a 700g taza lot. Best regards Aziz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : More Taza
Hi All, More taza indivs for $1,3/g with free fedex shipping. Best regards Aziz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : Acapulcoite for sale
Hi all, Acapulcoite for sale, off list if interested please. best regards Aziz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : Taza lot
Hello List, For sale, Taza individuals for the best price ever. Off list please Best Aziz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ad : nwa sale
Hello list, up for sale. Tissint, Taza, OC. Off list please. Best, Aziz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : Enriched Mafic Shergottite
Hello Dealers/collectors, Up for sale an Enriched Mafic Shergottite for sale. serious buyers off list please. Best Aziz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] SNC fall
Hello members, New martian fall available for sale, if interessted, off list please. Best Aziz __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : 8.8kg uNWA lot
Dear list Members, Up for sale, a fine collection of high desert meteorites weighs 8.8kg at good price with free shipping. Contact me of list for rpicing and pictures. My best Aziz 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4936/5406 [was: NWA 2995]
Hello Greg and List, let me correct the link : http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm I was not talking about about 4936 and 5406, I meant the NWA material especially 2995 which was found in Missouri Morocco, NOT Algeria. There is no mistake for 4936/5406 My best Aziz --- On Tue, 12/14/10, Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote: From: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net Subject: NWA 4936/5406 [was: NWA 2995] To: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 9:47 AM Hello Aziz Alhyane and List, Aziz wrote: Meteoritical bulletin really contains so many errors ! just like this site http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/nwa4936.htm I'm sure All Moroccans can help to get every mistake about NWA finds/falls corrected, just ask us Jack Schrader purchased the NWA 4936 stones and I purchased the paired NWA 5406 lunar stones from a Moroccan dealer (List member) who told us this material was found near Siksou Mountains in southern Morocco (Western Sahara). The classifying scientists were also told this same information by the Moroccan dealer. Here is a link to two photos of one of the finders provided to me, is that you Aziz? 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa5406/siksou1.jpg 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa5406/siksou2.jpg I was also provided an image of some of the stones next to a GPS with coordinates clearly visible. A Google Earth search places the spot south of Laayoune and SSW of Smara in Western Sahara. Aziz, I appreciate your wanting to correct any false entries in the Bulletin like the rest of us. If Jack and I were provided with a false find location for NWA 4936/5406, please let us know what you know. If we were lied to, this is something only concerned Moroccans like yourself can try to correct with your fellow countrymen. If we were provided with false information, please contact your local friend and sometime partner in Morocco, he will want to correct any erroneous find locations as well. 'Confusion' like this is why meteorites found in the Sahara desert are assigned with an NWA designation number instead of an actual name of where they are found, or reported as found from. There is simply no confidence in this data because of a variety of reasons (i.e. keep the site secret, the finder did not have GPS, etc.). Here is part of my description for NWA 5406 that tries to explain another problem with original distribution of NWA 4936/5406: Initially there was some confusion concerning the combined Total Known Weight (TKW) of pairings of NWA 4936/5406 due to mismanaged distribution of the original eight stones by a Moroccan dealer. Eventually the puzzle was put together. After thorough searches of the find site, it has been established that there are eight individual stones that together constitute NWA 5406 (six stones 281g) and NWA 4936 (two complete stones 179g and one 20g type sample from one of the NWA 5406 stones) for a combined Total Known Weight of 480 grams. Two of the eight stones (179g total) were purchased in 2007 by a collector, who removed 20 grams from one of these complete stones and submitted it to a second scientist for classification without realizing the material had already been classified. Months later the two classifying scientists were able to piece together the puzzle when the final four stones were purchased, and another 20 grams was submitted and classified under the NWA 5406 designation. Luckily, all eight stones were proved to come from a single Moroccan dealer and/or finder then classified by the same scientist! In all, a combined total of 60.1 grams in type samples have been deposited at UWS and UAz. I hope this helps, Thank You for your concerns! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 9:48 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 2995 Dear List Members, Was the 2995 was found in Algeria? As I know, it was found in Missour, Morocco. Meteoritical bulletin really contains so many errors ! just like this site http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/nwa4936.htm I'm sure All Moroccans can help to get every mistake about NWA finds/falls corrected, just ask us My best Aziz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit
[meteorite-list] NWA 2995
Dear List Members, Was the 2995 was found in Algeria? As I know, it was found in Missour, Morocco. Meteoritical bulletin really contains so many errors ! just like this site http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/nwa4936.htm I'm sure All Moroccans can help to get every mistake about NWA finds/falls corrected, just ask us My best Aziz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: CV3 lot
Dear List members, 2kgs CV3 for sale, don't miss the deal. off-list If you're interested. Best Aziz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD / 7.3kg baby monster
Dear collector, For sale, a very nice looking and complete crusted 7.3kgs chondrite, it has a few thumbprints and it stands by itself, a good example for a collection centerpeice. for pics and price, pleasse off list. Free shipping. Best Aziz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD- CV3 lot
Hello, sorry for not getting back to those who emailed me about the CV3lot, the lot was sold and my router is down. My best Aziz --- On Mon, 10/4/10, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD- CV3 lot To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, October 4, 2010, 6:44 PM Hello List Members, Up for sale, CV3 lot for good price. Off list for photos and price. Best regards Aziz ( alhyane) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD- CV3 lot
Hello List Members, Up for sale, CV3 lot for good price. Off list for photos and price. Best regards Aziz ( alhyane) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD; NWA meteorites for sale
Dear Members, Up for sale : - Bassikounou fall; two awsome peices weighing 312g - Tamdakht fall ; very fresh and gorgeous stone with a window to see the chondrules, it weighs 171g - Very nice thumbprinting chondrite. - very fresh possible unbrecciated eucrite. - Nice looking Iron, will take offers. - CV3 lot 1kg and more offers on the way like NWA 801 CR2...etc Pics n price on request. Regards Aziz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Primitive chondrite
Hello List Members, i have 2100g primitive chondrite for sale, the best of the best price ever. contact me for pics price. My best Aziz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wisconsin vs Tamdakht and other NWA falls
Dear list members, I was wondering about the price about the two falls, Wisconsin and Tamdakht ( nwa fall example). why does Wisconsin is expensive more than Tamdakht 30 times? is it because of the TKW, the a video of the fireball was taken or tamdakht was felt in NWW ( since nwa is known with the cheapest meteorites in the planet because people here are poor). The most thing I noticed is that UShunters have one word, otherwise some NWA dealers who do not have access to such a fall try to breake it by saying there is 500kg or a Ton, btw, does anyone know what's the TKW of Tamdakht? My experience tells me even a common chondrite falls in Europe or US would cost 30 times the same material falls in NWA, i klnow that USand europe have stong economy, but it's about meteorite fall, no matter where it falls. Please let me knwo what is the difference between NWA falls and American/european falls!!! what about a US lunar find, i think it would cost $30k a gram. I really hope to ge some reasonable questions!! My best and happy hunting to our friend in the Wisconsin field. Aziz, Suffron guy __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD- NWA CV3 lot
Hye Members, I got some CV3, if you do like large CAI's and chondrules, let me get you some of the cheapest CV3 on earth, you gotta love it. More rarities available, but planetaries are not. Off list please Saffron guy Aziz Abdelaziz alhyane +21261655060 Taliouine 83500 Morocco __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites
Dear list Members, Lets talk a little bet about NWA sceintifacally and in marketing. what did NWA stones offer to sceince? Do you appreciate NWA, it's obly 3 letters, but has done great for sceince, collectors and dealers, don't you have anything to say to NWA ? can we have a special day for NWA? can we celibrate it? and call it NWA DAY ? any word as a gift to those great meteorites were found in NWA? My best Aziz (saffron guy) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites
Hi listers, I got reolies, one the guys suggested April 1st as a NWA DAY! i'm wondring where is the IMCA? or even what is IMCA? Hi IMCA can you talk ? I don't think i can think those who replied me? but sure, the NWAs they have will do it! because we are not talking about persons here, we do about NWA METEORITES Best Aziz, ( Saffron Guy) --- On Wed, 3/31/10, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 6:59 PM Dear list Members, Lets talk a little bet about NWA sceintifacally and in marketing. what did NWA stones offer to sceince? Do you appreciate NWA, it's obly 3 letters, but has done great for sceince, collectors and dealers, don't you have anything to say to NWA ? can we have a special day for NWA? can we celibrate it? and call it NWA DAY ? any word as a gift to those great meteorites were found in NWA? My best Aziz (saffron guy) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA DAY
Hey Listers, This is what I got from some of you;HAPPY NWA DAY!!! CAN WE DO 04/04/10 AS A NWA DAY ? Ma best Saffron guy __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA DAY
I meant 04/01/10 --- On Wed, 3/31/10, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA DAY To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 9:46 PM Hey Listers, This is what I got from some of you; HAPPY NWA DAY!!! CAN WE DO 04/04/10 AS A NWA DAY ? Ma best Saffron guy __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tamdakht
Dear list members, I got a new Tamdakht with thumbprints. if you are interested contact me. My best Aziz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Do you collect excellent shape fresh chondite? AD
Hey collector, If you do, take a look at my wonderfull oriented monster by requesting pics, weight and price( very fair thought) . Best Aziz ( saffron guy) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tamdakht
Dear members! Any need for Tamdakht fall? count on me, i got what you want if ya looking for a large complete one! primary and secondary crust! don't worry for the price! just let me show you and we talk it then. Best Aziz ( saffron guy) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson show on facebook
Dear list members, i have seen many great pics of the Tucson show on facebook than i did on here, I'm very thankful to John Hamphries and Gary Fujuhara who took us to Tucson and showed us some moments they have lived, like Mike farmare's material, michael blood auction, the material that is going arround there, persons I have dealt with and never seen their faces, i have seen a pic of my bro Said haddany, awsome, i have to say you have great times and enjoy! let's share it someday! Facebook did better than met list! I'm getting new material, slices, individuals, wholesale, whatever you want! just get ready! Rock on! Aziz saffron guy (my new name) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar for $200/g
Didn't you notice he is from Tindouf, high desert with no internet. Cheers Aziz --- On Wed, 12/30/09, David Pensenstadler dfpen...@yahoo.com wrote: From: David Pensenstadler dfpen...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar for $200/g To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 3:28 PM Did you also notice that he wants $50 to ship it!? --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Lunar for $200/g To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 2:45 PM I found this new listing from an ebayer with no feedback for lunar material found this past September http://tinyurl.com/yge5uv9 -- Richard Kowalski http://fullmoonphotography.net IMCA #1081 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar for $200/g
Didn't you notice he is from Tindouf, high desert with no internet. Cheers Aziz --- On Wed, 12/30/09, David Pensenstadler dfpen...@yahoo.com wrote: From: David Pensenstadler dfpen...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar for $200/g To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 3:28 PM Did you also notice that he wants $50 to ship it!? --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Lunar for $200/g To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 2:45 PM I found this new listing from an ebayer with no feedback for lunar material found this past September http://tinyurl.com/yge5uv9 -- Richard Kowalski http://fullmoonphotography.net IMCA #1081 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar for $200/g
Didn't you notice he is from Tindouf, high desert with no internet. Cheers Aziz --- On Wed, 12/30/09, David Pensenstadler dfpen...@yahoo.com wrote: From: David Pensenstadler dfpen...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar for $200/g To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 3:28 PM Did you also notice that he wants $50 to ship it!? --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Lunar for $200/g To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 2:45 PM I found this new listing from an ebayer with no feedback for lunar material found this past September http://tinyurl.com/yge5uv9 -- Richard Kowalski http://fullmoonphotography.net IMCA #1081 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] be carful
Dear list members, A fake youtube virus is going around, i got the message from two people, the logo looks different and I did not open the video. the message is : x syas that you should see this video. Anyone else got that message? Best regards Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] be carful
The first person I got it from, I hope it's not # effective virus. Just don't open the video, who knows. Aziz --- On Tue, 12/22/09, Gary Chase garych...@live.com wrote: From: Gary Chase garych...@live.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] be carful To: meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 2:46 PM I got it too. The email came from habibi abdelazi. Gary Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:40:04 -0800 From: abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] be carful Dear list members, A fake youtube virus is going around, i got the message from two people, the logo looks different and I did not open the video. the message is : x syas that you should see this video. Anyone else got that message? Best regards Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3
Dear List Members, My CO3 is confirmed by Dr. Anthony Irving and this is what he said : AA-K CO3 chondrite (W3) Small chondrules. Olivine (Fa0-55), minor enstatite, chromite, kamacite, taenite, troilite. This is authentic stone. My best Aziz --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 6:40 PM Dear List members, If you are looking for a very nice and very cheap CO3, I have for sale a 133g uniq CO3 carbonaceous stone , the best price ever offred, for price and photos, catact me off list please. this is you Xmas gift My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3
Now I like you, you show me a little of MAn being, I don't need to tell people who you are because they already know you, and if you follow Moroccans who put food on your table, you will lose for sure, you are making yourself a joke. And I hope all Moroccan do not sell you meteorites, I am so happy I never had a deal with, I was lucky I did came you way, I would just be a victime. I know that Habibi's Nakhlit kicked you out, the same for Monzogabbro and many other planetaries, another one one is on the way this one wiil make you very sad you have my word. Before you say moroccans go wash your mouth with pur honey then say it. I can' wait to see you out of NWA meteorites, And I'm happy for other meteorites dealers who respect us, we offer them any type meteorites for the best prices. and they are very thankful for their trust and honesty, I hope that Moroccans stop selling you meteorites and if you are a MAN, don't buy anymore from Morocco. Time to hit the hay Thanks to everybody who emailed and support me, your emails are confidential. Aziz --- On Sat, 12/19/09, Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote: From: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3 To: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 3:08 PM Hello Aziz, OK, if you sent this sample to Dr. Irving, what is the NWA number? What further analysis by supporting scientists and/or laboratories that are needed to confirm such a meteorite as you advertise. In my own experience and conversations with Dr. Irving and other scientists, they ALWAYS insist that oxygen isotope studies by other labs to 'confirm' their initial (not FINAL) analysis of a sample, whether by you or other people. We see through your Smoke-n-Mirror advertising and are not going to accept sub-standard behavior if you guys (Moroccans) are going to sell your wares to us without proof. You can spout off names, but the bottom line is proof and accountability. If, and more often than not, you guys sells us crap, do you refund us our money? NO! I give you credit to good stone later, Mr. GReg! ,,, typical reply. You Moroccan stone traders want to be accepted by the world meteorite community as being legitimate, but your continuous behavior reveals you worry nothing more than lining your pockets with cash and care nothing about meteorites. To translate, one of my favorite Moroccan's best phrase is, I do not collect meteorites, I collect money! I find this very accurate with almost all Moroccan's I have worked with over the last 10 years. Sad! I have heard way too many stories of people being ripped off by Moroccan Stone Traders! I am completely tired of their crap! Maybe time to speak up a little more... Greg - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3 Dear List Members, My CO3 is confirmed by Dr. Anthony Irving and this is what he said : AA-K CO3 chondrite (W3) Small chondrules. Olivine (Fa0-55), minor enstatite, chromite, kamacite, taenite, troilite. This is authentic stone. My best Aziz --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 6:40 PM Dear List members, If you are looking for a very nice and very cheap CO3, I have for sale a 133g uniq CO3 carbonaceous stone , the best price ever offred, for price and photos, catact me off list please. this is you Xmas gift My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] morrocans
Hey Aziz, do we need this in this list,you do not think sincerly that its enough poisin here, and its holidays and we need better thing to talk about did you give to this man a chance to talk, he say dr tony irving have seen it, what else do you want, Yes we do need it more than greg, let's talk and say the fact and tell people who we are and give them the freedom to decide, in earlier 2005, we have had a plan to meet with greg at Zagoura, I did tell some friends, I was surprised what they said then, they said, be carefull with greg. I'm glade most of people of here trust us and they always encourage and keep buying from us. greg has a very weathered mentality and we can do nothing to change that fact, but let's just wish him good things althought he hates us and we don't acre. heh --- On Sat, 12/19/09, habibi abdelaziz azizhab...@yahoo.com wrote: From: habibi abdelaziz azizhab...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] morrocans To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 6:18 PM do we need this in this list,you do not think sincerly that its enough poisin here, and its holidays and we need better thing to talk about did you give to this man a chance to talk, he say dr tony irving have seen it, what else do you want, he could say he is selling an unclasified meteorite that is probably a co3 and its done , question of term and rules, but this is going to much hard, why have you to include the morrocans , they are 10 or 15 dealer from 1000, in this list why have you to generalise this, i think that we need more civisme and respect in this list there is many way to ask a person a question 1= please how do you know its a co3; 2= please give me information of your based opinion, 3= do not give me nothing i do not want to give you a chance to talk , im angry,,, 4= its enough morrocans are selling unclassified meteorite, and some are selling classified one its for him to decide if he wnat to go true the process of classification or not, well if someone found a meteorite in brazil or china do you ask him classification;; no you jump on aeroplane and you go to see and by your eyes you take the decision to buy, ok , let's ask the morrocan to make classification all of them and to sell in ebay and to not sell wholesale , what , other dealer will do find an other job, let be sincere and rationnel; enough is enough and one thing important, let's not be ashamed by our own words, if someone by luck get into this list and read the archives , he will ask one question why they are treating morrocans like slaves is this a racist list??? or some member are racist?? and why they are not answring and why no one in this list members react,or answer,?? think about it if this continue this way i will queit this list and i will be ashamed that my son read by mistake what is hapenning in this list.. sincerly, this is a civic polite interferation in your ongoing discussion, and i do like to stop it here , no more off this , as we will fell down further;; and it doens't go well with our academique list, by the time i tell myself do not write this bad term in the list may be;;; dr x or sir y will read this and think is a very down level, i m not , i do see many email that i need to answer them but i tell to myself stop it you do not need this in your journey, calm down and let the morrocan in peace they are doing a good job and they are selling very cheap, and bringing a lot of wonderfull stone to the collector and they are very honnest and i never heard in morroco that any dealer morrocan ripped of anyone, cr2 in 1999 was selling for 1500$/gr now 20$ the poor collectors lunar in 1999 was selling for 15000$ now 600$_1000$ the poor collector this is the market, and i m happy for the collector; i hope we do not see here a kind of big big R __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3
Dear List members, If you are looking for a very nice and very cheap CO3, I have for sale a 133g uniq CO3 carbonaceous stone , the best price ever offred, for price and photos, catact me off list please. this is you Xmas gift My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FB group NWA meteorites
Dear List members, We already have 62 friends only two Moroccans me and Habibi, where are the other, if you wanna join us click on the link ; http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=201893903852ref=mf . you should have a FB acount My best Aziz --- On Sun, 12/13/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] FB group NWA meteorites To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 6:56 PM Dear List Member, Already got 28 members joined, some have added great pics, you are welcome this is your group where you can share you photos, post your adds, ask for informations ..ect To join, follow this linke : http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=201893903852ref=nf Best regards Aziz --- On Sun, 12/13/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] FB group NWA meteorites To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 1:07 PM Dear List Members, I just created a group on Facebook named NWA meteorites, some friend on here are already joined the group and I invite all of you to do so at : http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=201893903852ref=nf This group is all about NWA meteorites, finds, falls, dealers, availability, salesetc I hope all Moroccan dealer will joing the group. Thank you for joining us Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral..com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Huge NWA Iron, clearance sale AD
Dear List Members, Up for sale, a 15250g excellent NWA Iron, it was found in Zag region in 2008. Pictures here : http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/3062814091/sizes/o/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/3062814087/sizes/o/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/3062814103/sizes/o/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/3062814099/sizes/o/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/3062814095/sizes/o/ $11k or best offer. My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FB group NWA meteorites
Dear List Members, I just created a group on Facebook named NWA meteorites, some friend on here are already joined the group and I invite all of you to do so at : http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=201893903852ref=nf This group is all about NWA meteorites, finds, falls, dealers, availability, salesetc I hope all Moroccan dealer will joing the group. Thank you for joining us Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FB group NWA meteorites
Dear List Member, Already got 28 members joined, some have added great pics, you are welcome this is your group where you can share you photos, post your adds, ask for informations ..ect To join, follow this linke : http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=201893903852ref=nf Best regards Aziz --- On Sun, 12/13/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] FB group NWA meteorites To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 1:07 PM Dear List Members, I just created a group on Facebook named NWA meteorites, some friend on here are already joined the group and I invite all of you to do so at : http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=201893903852ref=nf This group is all about NWA meteorites, finds, falls, dealers, availability, salesetc I hope all Moroccan dealer will joing the group. Thank you for joining us Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA clearance sale AD
Dear List Members, Up for sale at very competitive price, 2 lots, 10kg and 12kg. prices and pics on request, off list please. Best regards Aziz Abdelaziz Alhyane Taliouine 83500 Morocco http://www.tourisme-nomade.com http://saharsaffron.com/MoroccanSaffron.htm http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA clearance sale AD
Dear list members, Just to let you know the lots are sold. looking forward to get some new, keep an eye for my adds. My best Aziz --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA clearance sale AD To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 9:09 AM Dear List Members, Up for sale at very competitive price, 2 lots, 10kg and 12kg. prices and pics on request, off list please. Best regards Aziz Abdelaziz Alhyane Taliouine 83500 Morocco http://www.tourisme-nomade.com http://saharsaffron.com/MoroccanSaffron.htm http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Money Morocco
I call that the FACT, thanks Martin --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de wrote: From: Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Money Morocco To: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de, Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 2:03 PM Well spoken, Martin - I agree! Matthias - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 10:54 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Money Morocco Good Evening, maybe I should tell our experiences with our Moroccan colleagues, as NWA is our main field of our occupation and Stefan was in Morocco from beginning on of the NWA-period. Because some of the assertions made here are in our eyes not acceptable. First of all we all have to bring to our minds to whome all this wealth of new meteorites that we have today is due to. I'm old enough to remember the days before the NWA-rush, where dealers, collectors and scientists traded forth and back always the same few stones. Nowadays we got in roughly 10 years more new meteorites than 40 years of Antarctic hunts will yield, we have all the rare types, where we could only dream of the hundred years before. And we have them at prices, that finally each and every collector can take part in that fascinating world. We got from Morocco stones, of which no scientist could divine, that something like that could exist at all. NWA was the historical boost for science, for the collectors and partially also for the meteorite trade. And who made this all possible? The Moroccan people and the people of Maghreb. Full stop. We hear here on the list so often rants and words of haughtiness about the Moroccan dealers, hunters, colleagues, experts. What I never will understand, how people could speak so bad about them; people, who built up their wealth and their reputation, they pride themselves today, with the stones the Moroccans delivered to them. Why they then weren't going searching for meteorites by their own in the deserts, if their business partners were so lousy as they tell? Ask the US-hunters, ask the Oman-hunters, how many stones you have to pick up, until you have a mediocre eucrite or a CV3, those stones, we all take for granted. The people in Sahara are doing an incredible job. Yes of course, there are also black sheeps in Morocco - but those we do have also among the Western dealers. And of course down there is simply not the infrastructure, that one would get each stone perfectly and readily classified and that the weights and the find data would be known. But that is a hundred times balanced, by the often lower prices there and by the circumstance that one gets there such great stones at all! Of course it can be here and there risky for a private collector, because they often can't know the dealer yet, but why shall professional dealers complain about the Moroccans? It is plain simply part of their job, to recognize the stones there, to recognize pairings, to buy them in Morocco and to bring them to classification. If they don't want to do that, then they shall sell classic and historic meteorites. And some of the recent posts here on the list ignore the positive developments, the Moroccans made. First of all you find a lot of true experts there, who know their stones very well. Partially they started to send samples to classification. Note also, that we started to integrate the Moroccans into IMCA. And that sweeping blow, condemning all Moroccans - we can't confirm that perspective in no way. Our experience is rather, that our partners, if a stone turns out to be a pratfall, often are exerted to limit the damage, in taking back stones or in balancing it with the next deal. And why? Because there exist a very simple rule. Not only for Morocco, but for life: Treat your partner with respect and fairness and he will treat you the same way too. Our opinion. Good night! Martin __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada toMorocco
Hello Brian and all, MoneyGram is available in Morocco, and Abdellah is a good person five stars in honesty and trust. My best Aziz --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada toMorocco To: Melanie Matthews spacewoman2...@hotmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 2:39 PM Hi Melanie, I'm glad you are on top of this and that you are keeping in touch with the seller. I'm glad he's mailing back your postal money order. Hopefully the Moneyram will work out and he'll accept it as he said and you'll get your new meteorites. I wish you all the best and hope that you receive some really great and rare meteorites in the group. Have a great day! Brian - Original Message - From: Melanie Matthews spacewoman2...@hotmail.com To: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:15 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada toMorocco Hi Brian, listers. Actually it was a postal money order that I mailed out to him (Mr. Abdellah Afiniss), and yes it included the cost of the stones plus the shipping costs. I asked him to mail it back to me and he said he did. Once I get the slip back I'm going to get back the money I put onto it and re-send the payment to him - probably via Moneygram (which he told me he accepts). At first offered me a lot total of 8.5 kgs of chondrites (all unclassified),, knowing full well I couldn't afford all that I circled some stones in Paint.net (free image editing program similar to MSPaint) that I wanted in the photographs, emailed back to him and kindly asked him to send me images of each meteorite I picked sitting on the scale to show their weights... I then worked out the prices until I made the final decition on buying five rocks together weighing 837 grams.. As I said he has been very cooperative, and I thanks him and I thank all here on the list for their input/suggestions! --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! From: searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:56:13 -0600 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada to Morocco Hello Melanie and list, In regards to your question of sending payments to Morocco, I have to ask a couple of questions and others also mentioned they weren't clear on your question since you didn't seem to be including shipping costs. I'd like to help you out and I mean this in the most thoughtful and kindest way possible, so please don't take it negatively or have any anger towards me. Make sure you include shipping costs when you were determining the total amount of the payment you need to send to the seller and then send a check and then say you couldn't afford the FedEx shipping costs if that is what you agreed to buy from the seller? You have said this in the past about not having money to pay for something or to pay for the shipping costs. It's good to ask for help if you are not experienced in sending payments outside of Canada beyond Paypal. This sounds like you decided to send a check for the meteorites and then were going to decide about a payment for the shipping as a separate payment or to pay for shipping later on. Is this why you stated you couldn't afford the FedEx shipping costs after you had sent your personal Canadian paper check? This doesn't sound right why you wouldn't determine the full amount due to the seller for the items with shipping and or insurance and then send one payment and later decide you couldn't afford the shipping costs they gave you. Also, you stated you sent a Paper Check which, as I am thinking is a personal check from your personal Canadian bank account by what you wrote. I'm confused to why would you think that a personal check from your Canadian bank account would be valid as you say, to a dealer in Morocco, which I am sure it is valid in Canada and you have money in your account, but most likely would not be accepted in Morocco or any other country? You don't often hear of dealers in Asia, Africa, Europe or for the most part any dealers in the U.S. or anywhere in North or South America or Australia that would accept a personal Paper check from a bank in a different country, although it may happen. A check from a Canadian bank account or from a U.S. bank account or any personal paper check from any other country most likely won't be accepted unless they verified with their
[meteorite-list] Pairings/ scaring people
Dear list members, The subjest was why to scary people from buying meteorites direcly from Morocco as I said before, if a Moroccan stole you, tell it in the list and we will help to refund you publicaly, but to tell collectors that moroccans are robbers and you keep buying from them, that is crazy. How about if I buy a 1kg lunar stone from a very poor man lives in a tent worths $100 and wear $2 for $7000 and sell it for thousands of dollars, wouldn't I feel guilty if I do not help this person atleast $10k as a bonus he worths, what about If I buy from you a lunar and tell you if turns out to be something good ( not mention LUNAR) and when it is a lunar I do not give you that bonus, what about if I got a lunar sample from you and tell you it's a eucrite and then send someone else to buy it from you for the price eucrites, how about if I buy pairings material without sending a sample for pairings and tell people to not do that? Dear collectors, is there anyone of you who has been treated by sending a lunar sample and after getting the main stone different, if so, please tell us and we can discuss and see how to help you. About the total known weight TKW, it is impossible to know the exact TKW of the NWA finds, we have not access to most strewnfields, even in our western sahara we can not move as we like because of militaries and mines areas, only Touareg have access to these dangerous places, if the nomad get me a good stone, I would spend a lot of money to reach him and ask him to go back to the place the first stone was found in, i have to give him additional money, nomads are not experts hunters, they only use their eyes and hunting takes months, i would be lucky if the other deals do not know about my stone, if they do, they would send their nomads friends to the area and this is the reason why many paired stones are shown by different dealers. when the first stone discovered, the buyer asks if this is the only stone available, I honestly say YES, but we are still hunting ( how would i know if it is the only one available or not, I think i need to ask the stone itself, how many sisters you have?!). most planetaries come from Algeria, the only strewnfield we have accecc to is sikssou, missour and anwal. if you want to have a large lunar in your collection, go ahead buy it and get it classified, if you want to cut and sell, aslo get it classified, I myself, if I have a paired lunar, I would sell it unclassified lunar with guarantee, i don't need to steale your money and I don't LOVE money, I only want what my stone worths, I'm always doing my best and some nomads and dealers caused me problems and I solve them by losing money but not a friend who trusted me and send me big cash, I am still young but learned enough to play with me. I love meteorites and like to have lot of friends and improve my knwolege, I am positive with everybody, I don't try breake Moroccans, american or europeans. This is how I see things, if I'm wrong, please let me know and thanks in advance. Have a wonderful evening Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada to Morocco?
Dear List members, In Morocco, here is no Paypal as it is not allowed to get the currency out of country, we can buy online or send money out of country, but if you have a company and want to import something, you need to provide papers and if you have a son studying in canada, USA or europe, you have a limite to send him monthly, about $500-$600. We have 3 payment methodes : Western Union ; the most expensive, MoneyGram : cheap way, available in Post offices in US, Canada and UK. Bank Transfer : is the best even it takes 3-7 days, the bank take from the money their commission and when changing currencies ( ex : they get $1000 from your transaction for 7.65 MAD and sell it to Bank Almaghreb for 7.68) that means they do not buy the devise from you the same value in the market. Better you get back your check and then make the payment using one of the 3 ways. Shipping Methodes ; Chronopost ; the worst in the world Fedex : excellent, they even offer discounts and they have options Parcel post : excellent, cheap but takes a while, guaranteed, I was told that Fedex delivers their packages. DHL : excellent, I just hate the girl works there . EMS : Never worked with Airfreight ; large countities 100kg-up $520 for 100kg. GREGS CAREFULLY AREN'T SENDING MONEY TO MOROCCO NOWADAYS? AREN'T YOU GETTING SHIPMENTS? LET OTHERS DO IT AND DO NOT BE SELFISH One last thing, I don't understand how the moroccan did not know about all the payments methodes since he is selling meteorites, even beginners know western union. My best Aziz Alhyane --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada to Morocco? To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 5:50 AM Hi Melanie, All, At this time I don't see myself buying stones directly from a Moroccan dealer but there may come a time when I would be tempted to. I hope the more experienced meteorite buyers would share knowledge on How to, pitfalls to avoid and any advice other than, carefully. Mel, I'm a bit confused by your post. You said you sent a check but it sounded like you didn't figure in the shipping costs? Also because you sent a check, the seller doesn't accept PayPal or an International money order? How does one then pay for stones in Morocco? Carl Carefully! Best regards, Greg Hi list, Please help - I mailed a payment to a Moroccan dealer for a lot of chondrites via a paper check, he got it today, but he told me that the banks over there don't recognize it even though it is completely valid. I can't afford the shipping costs through FedEx for the lot I want - which will be over $200 CND... so what other less expensive options do you suggest? Thank you in advance --- Melanie _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada toMorocco?
Hi Greg, You know what YOU mean, list members, Go shop anywhere, Morocco is one of the best shops to buy meteorites from, if you find cool meteorites from a Moroccan you don't know, just ask in the list and you get all infos for your decision. All the types of meteorites available from Morocco at great prices, don't miss the opportunity. My best Aziz --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote: From: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada toMorocco? To: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 6:41 PM Hello Aziz Alhyane, you wrote, GREGS CAREFULLY AREN'T SENDING MONEY TO MOROCCO NOWADAYS? AREN'T YOU GETTING SHIPMENTS? LET OTHERS DO IT AND DO NOT BE SELFISH I am not sure what you mean exactly, but my advice to ALL is to be CAREFUL when sending ANY payments to Moroccans. Did I strike a nerve, Aziz Alhyane?! You also mention that you, ...hate the girl works there [DHL]. I think she, and the others who work there to be quite friendly and have been extremely helpful to me in person or over the phone over the many years [I continue to work there]. Any further comments you have, Mr. Alhyane? Do not go fishing for replies, I will let you know how I feel! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada toMorocco? Dear List members, In Morocco, here is no Paypal as it is not allowed to get the currency out of country, we can buy online or send money out of country, but if you have a company and want to import something, you need to provide papers and if you have a son studying in canada, USA or europe, you have a limite to send him monthly, about $500-$600. We have 3 payment methodes : Western Union ; the most expensive, MoneyGram : cheap way, available in Post offices in US, Canada and UK. Bank Transfer : is the best even it takes 3-7 days, the bank take from the money their commission and when changing currencies ( ex : they get $1000 from your transaction for 7.65 MAD and sell it to Bank Almaghreb for 7.68) that means they do not buy the devise from you the same value in the market. Better you get back your check and then make the payment using one of the 3 ways. Shipping Methodes ; Chronopost ; the worst in the world Fedex : excellent, they even offer discounts and they have options Parcel post : excellent, cheap but takes a while, guaranteed, I was told that Fedex delivers their packages. DHL : excellent, I just hate the girl works there . EMS : Never worked with Airfreight ; large countities 100kg-up $520 for 100kg. GREGS CAREFULLY AREN'T SENDING MONEY TO MOROCCO NOWADAYS? AREN'T YOU GETTING SHIPMENTS? LET OTHERS DO IT AND DO NOT BE SELFISH One last thing, I don't understand how the moroccan did not know about all the payments methodes since he is selling meteorites, even beginners know western union. My best Aziz Alhyane --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada to Morocco? To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 5:50 AM Hi Melanie, All, At this time I don't see myself buying stones directly from a Moroccan dealer but there may come a time when I would be tempted to. I hope the more experienced meteorite buyers would share knowledge on How to, pitfalls to avoid and any advice other than, carefully. Mel, I'm a bit confused by your post. You said you sent a check but it sounded like you didn't figure in the shipping costs? Also because you sent a check, the seller doesn't accept PayPal or an International money order? How does one then pay for stones in Morocco? Carl Carefully! Best regards, Greg Hi list, Please help - I mailed a payment to a Moroccan dealer for a lot of chondrites via a paper check, he got it today, but he told me that the banks over there don't recognize it even though it is completely valid. I can't afford the shipping costs through FedEx for the lot I want - which will be over $200 CND... so what other less expensive options do you suggest? Thank you in advance --- Melanie _ Hotmail: Trusted
Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada toMorocco?
Hi Greg Hupe, Do you do the right things when you buy from moroccans ? Thanks God, I have no problem and I treat my customers right. Aziz Alhyane --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote: From: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada toMorocco? To: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 7:08 PM My friend, Aziz (Alhyane), Yes, I do know what I mean, I know what YOU mean and I know what ALL Moroccans mean. When asked my opinion, ALL will know what I mean! My last reply to you [Moroccans] is this: Treat your customers right, and you will not have problems!! Treat the meteorites right; as in, accuracy of type, TKW, self-pairings (fraud), etc., and you will not have problems!!!... Aziz, I am much too busy to pussy-foot around with you. Get it right, or keep on going! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada toMorocco? Hi Greg, You know what YOU mean, list members, Go shop anywhere, Morocco is one of the best shops to buy meteorites from, if you find cool meteorites from a Moroccan you don't know, just ask in the list and you get all infos for your decision. All the types of meteorites available from Morocco at great prices, don't miss the opportunity. My best Aziz --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote: From: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada toMorocco? To: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 6:41 PM Hello Aziz Alhyane, you wrote, GREGS CAREFULLY AREN'T SENDING MONEY TO MOROCCO NOWADAYS? AREN'T YOU GETTING SHIPMENTS? LET OTHERS DO IT AND DO NOT BE SELFISH I am not sure what you mean exactly, but my advice to ALL is to be CAREFUL when sending ANY payments to Moroccans. Did I strike a nerve, Aziz Alhyane?! You also mention that you, ...hate the girl works there [DHL]. I think she, and the others who work there to be quite friendly and have been extremely helpful to me in person or over the phone over the many years [I continue to work there]. Any further comments you have, Mr. Alhyane? Do not go fishing for replies, I will let you know how I feel! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada toMorocco? Dear List members, In Morocco, here is no Paypal as it is not allowed to get the currency out of country, we can buy online or send money out of country, but if you have a company and want to import something, you need to provide papers and if you have a son studying in canada, USA or europe, you have a limite to send him monthly, about $500-$600. We have 3 payment methodes : Western Union ; the most expensive, MoneyGram : cheap way, available in Post offices in US, Canada and UK. Bank Transfer : is the best even it takes 3-7 days, the bank take from the money their commission and when changing currencies ( ex : they get $1000 from your transaction for 7.65 MAD and sell it to Bank Almaghreb for 7.68) that means they do not buy the devise from you the same value in the market. Better you get back your check and then make the payment using one of the 3 ways. Shipping Methodes ; Chronopost ; the worst in the world Fedex : excellent, they even offer discounts and they have options Parcel post : excellent, cheap but takes a while, guaranteed, I was told that Fedex delivers their packages. DHL : excellent, I just hate the girl works there . EMS : Never worked with Airfreight ; large countities 100kg-up $520 for 100kg. GREGS CAREFULLY AREN'T SENDING MONEY TO MOROCCO NOWADAYS? AREN'T YOU GETTING SHIPMENTS? LET OTHERS DO IT AND DO NOT BE SELFISH One last thing, I don't understand how the moroccan did not know about all the payments
Re: [meteorite-list] Huge NWA Iron for sale -AD-
Hello List, The Monster is still sleeping over here, as I said, $20k takes it home with no Fedex cost. the delivery is guaranteed. Pictures here : http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/ Off list please at : alhyane_abdela...@yahoo.com My best Aziz --- On Wed, 10/14/09, Thomas Webb webb...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Thomas Webb webb...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Huge NWA Iron for sale -AD- To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 8:26 PM Hello List, Alhyane Abdelaziz asked me to forward this ad for him. Thomas Dear List, Up for sale, A huge new NWA Iron find of 34000g with gorgeous regmaglyptes and Two smooth edges. Photos : http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2598/4005452746_8e8b647f92_b.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2657/4004684781_334e1e36b1_b.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2527/4004683337_15834c35a3_b.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2588/4005446786_dd0614b05f_b.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2527/4004683337_15834c35a3_b.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2588/4005446786_dd0614b05f_b.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2552/4004678899_3f3e4d13ce_b.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2484/4005435596_25f10c734c_b.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2570/4005438294_a2a2c43b14_b.jpg $20k takes it home and free Fedex shipping, Guarateed delivering. 1st come, 1st served. Alhyane Abdelaziz 83500 Morocco +212 6 61655060 http://www.tourisme-nomade.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six..pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test - Ignore it please
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[meteorite-list] Bassikounou birthday October 12
Hello List, Happy birthday bassikounou and I think Jim strope has the same. http://spacerocksinc.com/May_11_2007.html My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD ; uNWA SALE
Hello List, Up for sale, 3 very nice meteorites from NWA high desert with black fusion crast and thumbprints. If you are interested, contact me at alhyane_abdela...@yahoo.com Pictures : http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/ My best Aziz Alhyane Abdelaziz Taliouine 83500 Morocco +212 6 61655060 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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[meteorite-list] AD : Excellent NWA Iron
Hello List, Up for sale, a 15250g excellent NWA Iron, it was found in Zag region in 2008. for serious buyers contact me off list at alhyane_abdela...@yahoo.com Pictures here : http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/3062814091/sizes/o/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/3062814087/sizes/o/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/3062814103/sizes/o/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/3062814099/sizes/o/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/3062814095/sizes/o/ My best Aziz ( Alhyane Abdelaziz) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WG: Meteorites and Moroccans and the List
Tanmirt Nels, I perfectly agree with you and I respect you. I advice every collector to buy as much great stones as he can directly from Moroccans, and if you are ripped off we Moroccans will unite to help you to get your money back. I hope my Moroccans friends accept this idea, this is a good plan to protect our reputation and business. My best Aziz --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de Subject: [meteorite-list] WG: Meteorites and Moroccans and the List To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 1:38 AM From Nels -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: pinwalla [mailto:pinwa...@nep.net] Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Mai 2009 23:57 An: Martin Altmann Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites and Moroccans and the List Martin, Please pass this on for me! I have dealt with and met many Moroccans in the meteorite field. To a person they were all honest and perfectly trustworthy. If they were to actually cheat someone, they would soon have no business at all. Are people dishonest? Yes-it's in varying degrees in every one of us, no matter the color of hair, eyes or skin. Generally I do not have trouble with anyone and I have never had trouble coming from NWA!! I have sent actually thousands of dollars to NWA for specimens-I am very happy with what I have in exchange! If you trust people and treat them as you would wish to be treated-with respect and consideration you normally will not be disappointed. I am sure someone has had a difficult deal with someone, somewhere-but those of you who have-can you before your own self say it was always the other guys fault? I think we all share in the burden of being gentlemen and women to each other. I think this thread of trashing someone else, blaming everyone else is demeaning and shows the true character of those few who continually do it! If we do not learn to trust and get along we may never survive as a species! Azule, Nels __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan fraudsters were even pictured - WHO?
Tell us who the Moroccan fraudsters are. Very important question Aziz --- On Tue, 5/19/09, Timothy Heitz midw...@meteorman.org wrote: From: Timothy Heitz midw...@meteorman.org Subject: [meteorite-list] Moroccan fraudsters were even pictured - WHO? To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@comcast.net, Adam Hupe adamh...@comcast.net Cc: Norbert Classen tri...@timewarp.de Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 2:03 PM Hello Adam, Don't you think you should tell IMCA who it was the rip you off, so someone else don't make the same mistake? I thought thats what IMCA was about, protecting the collector. Tell us who the Moroccan fraudsters are. Best Regards, Tim Heitz - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:21 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites and Moroccans The Moroccans, on the other hand, are becoming increasingly sneaky. They will send a sample of a real Martian meteorite and then send a load of crap which you will never see a refund on. A couple of Moroccan fraudsters were even pictured at the last meteorite show as can bee seen by the postings to the List. I now refuse to buy from either one! Best Regards, Adam List, This is an example of what I was talking about, Is that happened to Adam or he just want to hurt our business which handereds of nomads get their bread from after sending months on the high desert for a few dollars. The message is clear, it is for collectors to not buying from Moroccans after we can sell directly to collectors. Adam does not stop buying from Moroccans, hes a liar, After this message we all know he bought NWA5000 and this 'ROCK is another story. All I want and most of us, from the is to make things clear, if I'm ripped off by someone, I would tell his name after many times trying to get paid or get my stone(s) back, and then everybody must talk to him, if he does not fix the problem, everybody shoud STOP dealling with him. I hope we will not read negative comments about Moroccans based on nothing than competition and selfeshness. Just my opinion Thanks Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites and Moroccans
The Moroccans, on the other hand, are becoming increasingly sneaky. They will send a sample of a real Martian meteorite and then send a load of crap which you will never see a refund on. A couple of Moroccan fraudsters were even pictured at the last meteorite show as can bee seen by the postings to the List. I now refuse to buy from either one! Best Regards, Adam List, This is an example of what I was talking about, Is that happened to Adam or he just want to hurt our business which handereds of nomads get their bread from after sending months on the high desert for a few dollars. The message is clear, it is for collectors to not buying from Moroccans after we can sell directly to collectors. Adam does not stop buying from Moroccans, hes a liar, After this message we all know he bought NWA5000 and this 'ROCK is another story. All I want and most of us, from the is to make things clear, if I'm ripped off by someone, I would tell his name after many times trying to get paid or get my stone(s) back, and then everybody must talk to him, if he does not fix the problem, everybody shoud STOP dealling with him. I hope we will not read negative comments about Moroccans based on nothing than competition and selfeshness. Just my opinion Thanks Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA planetaries and Moroccans
Hello List, Everytime we talk about Meteorites and morocco, there's someone to tell that Moroccans are not trustworthy, can anyone tell me how? every american/european was rippied off should tell us who stole his money and every moroccan should do the same, this way we'll have a good idea about who is trustworthy and who is NOT, and it also helps to know untrustworthy people to avoid dealling with'm. A few of you knows lots of very interesting facts about Amercans and Moroccans. dealers, collectors and scientists are all in this matter. So, please, any american or european was ripped off by a moroccan, give us the names and how he stole your money, and hopefully we can hear from moroccans. Thanks Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
Greg, If it is the real Monzogabbro, you can sell it using the number 4734, it came from the stone Dr. jambon analysed and got the 20g twice, you don't need to present another sample. Good luck Aziz --- On Sat, 5/16/09, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 6:59 PM This is NWA 4734. You can see a picture of an 11g slice I have here: http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF1732.jpg and compare it to this one: http://www.meteoritemarket.com/NWA4734-596A.jpg and see its the same material. This has come from a very reputable supplier in Morocco and is without a doubt authentic. Greg C. --- On Sat, 5/16/09, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 9:31 PM What is the official or provisional NWA number for this material? Who studied it? Best Regards, Adam --- On Sat, 5/16/09, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 3:42 PM I have scoured the net checking current prices offered for this type Lunar meteorite and am pretty confident that I can beat any of the currently advertised prices on this real nice Lunar by $200 or more. I have a few samples available, those interested, send me a email. whats available? 6.10g with fusion crust http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWALunar61ga.jpg 1.05g with fusion crust http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWALunar105ga.jpg .80g http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWALunar85g.jpg .65g http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWALunar65g.jpg Hope all is good with everyone, Greg C. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD ; NWA carbonaceous
Hello List, For sale $1k complete CV3 including shipping cost. http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/ My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : CC / OC excellent prices
Hello List, Up for sale : 1kg CC for $1.75 7kgs OC for $0.1 Pictures on request if interested, first come, first served. The best Aziz Alhyane Abdelaziz Taliouine Center 83500 Morocco +212(6)61655060 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : CC / OC excellent prices
Hello List, Up for sale : 1kg CC for $1.75 7kgs OC for $0.1 Pictures on request if interested, first come, first served. The best Aziz Alhyane Abdelaziz Taliouine Center 83500 Morocco +212(6)61655060 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : NWA Material for sale
Dear List, Up for sale different types of NWA material, Olivine diogenite, Carbonaceous chondrites Eucrites Chondritic Monster Good deals for OC If interested, contact me at : alhyane_abdela...@yahoo.com My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : NWA Material for sale
Dear List, Up for sale different types of NWA material, -Olivine diogenite, -Carbonaceous chondrites -Eucrites -Chondritic Monster -Good deals for OC If interested, contact me at : alhyane_abdela...@yahoo.com My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD ; Tucson promotion
Hello List, During The Tucson show, I'm offering a promotion, good material for good prices, shipping on me. contact me off list at : alhyane_abdela...@yahoo.com My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : New meteorites
Dear list members, I just got some new meteorites, Interesting material at good prices. contact me at : alhyane_abdela...@yahoo.com My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new meteorite Morocco ??
call mohamed zeroual @ let us know his answer. Don#39;t accuse me plz, all this, is ur prob, u#39;re just talking with urself. Crazy man, i#39;m so sorry 4 u. For the TKW, i advise u to ask space how many kgs he sent, he#39;s the only one will give an exact answer. habibi abdelaziz wrote: ok tired of this game. same team same balbla, find an other way, because no one is dump; you can create as many account as you want on the list and bring all names you want mr X, register other names on this list trow all what you want here i do not care,take photo of zoro with man made crater and etc;; create an other account and i have to asnwer and do this 100's time i m not answering anymore its for the list member to judje , what is true and what is fake.. answer one question ?? mrX+Y+Z+ ALPHABET.and any futur new acoount named?? WHAT IS THE TKW. THAT'S ALL WE NEED. how many time you can hide your stones one month two month , sex month, time will tell,you will sell them and you will show them what ever it takes , and i m right and i will be always right; you can't hide the tkw for 1000's collector , i have nothing to do any more with all this , i have other thing to do. my last email on the subject until the tkw is known. aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new meteorite Morocco ??
just to let everybody here knows that Mrs Habibi means by #39;x#39; me alhyane abdelaziz. @ i dunno why. I#39;m a poor man @ my mom didn#39;t bring any mony from her dad 4 me. If i#39;m lucky i can talk thousands with myself, but millions, that#39;s a dream i can#39;t even dream, i#39;m jalous of those have millions. I really can#39;t support.Aziz Alhyane habibi abdelaziz wrote: ok tired of this game. same team same balbla, find an other way, because no one is dump; you can create as many account as you want on the list and bring all names you want mr X, register other names on this list trow all what you want here i do not care,take photo of zoro with man made crater and etc;; create an other account and i have to asnwer and do this 100's time i m not answering anymore its for the list member to judje , what is true and what is fake... answer one question ?? mrX+Y+Z+ ALPHABET.and any futur new acoount named?? WHAT IS THE TKW. THAT'S ALL WE NEED. how many time you can hide your stones one month two month , sex month, time will tell,you will sell them and you will show them what ever it takes , and i m right and i will be always right; you can't hide the tkw for 1000's collector , i have nothing to do any more with all this , i have other thing to do. my last email on the subject until the tkw is known. aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz Taliouine center 83500 Morocco __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
Dear collectors, I've forget (a) my main email address is: alhyane_abdela...@yahoo.com My best Aziz --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:01 PM Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz Taliouine center 83500 Morocco __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
Let people know where you pictured Bensour pieces. you are a robber, everybody knows that, nwa 482 was 1280g where was the rest?, it was the reason of a big house and the last Model of Toyota and additional accessories. The cartaer you've seen is the only whole we can found, the pieces are on that place. do you have some lies. please mike, get people who you owe the money their . Aziz --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:13 PM If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy. That is a dent in the dirt. Michael Farmer --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz Taliouine center 83500 Morocco __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
Mike, be a man and let us talk about all your trips to Morocco and all you lies to you customers and your partners, I have tents of questions, will be able to reply honestly ? Aziz Alhyane --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:24 PM Let people know where you pictured Bensour pieces. you are a robber, everybody knows that, nwa 482 was 1280g where was the rest?, it was the reason of a big house and the last Model of Toyota and additional accessories. The cartaer you've seen is the only whole we can found, the pieces are on that place. do you have some lies. please mike, get people who you owe the money their . Aziz --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:13 PM If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy. That is a dent in the dirt. Michael Farmer --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz Taliouine center 83500 Morocco __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
I don't care for your Tucson, I want to tell everybody the truth. you must shut up, and talk about Moroccans and moroccan falls, if you do, I can stop. Aziz Alhyane --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:26 PM Ok Aziz, Whatever, Heard this all before. Michael Farmer We will see what turns up in Tucson. --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:21 PM Let people know where you pictured Bensour pieces. you are a robber, everybody knows that, nwa 482 was 1280g where was the rest?, it was the reason of a big house and the last Model of Toyota and additional accessories. The cartaer you've seen is the only whole we can found, the pieces are on that place. do you have some lies. please mike, get people who you owe the money their . Aziz --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:13 PM If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy. That is a dent in the dirt. Michael Farmer --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz Taliouine center 83500 Morocco __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
If you don't like facts, don't read and reply. back off please. Aziz alhyane --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Mark Grossman mar...@westnet.com wrote: From: Mark Grossman mar...@westnet.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:28 PM If you want to talk about this in more detail, please do it off list. Mark Grossman - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; meteorite...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact Mike, be a man and let us talk about all your trips to Morocco and all you lies to you customers and your partners, I have tents of questions, will be able to reply honestly ? Aziz Alhyane --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:24 PM Let people know where you pictured Bensour pieces. you are a robber, everybody knows that, nwa 482 was 1280g where was the rest?, it was the reason of a big house and the last Model of Toyota and additional accessories. The cartaer you've seen is the only whole we can found, the pieces are on that place. do you have some lies. please mike, get people who you owe the money their . Aziz --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:13 PM If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy. That is a dent in the dirt. Michael Farmer --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz Taliouine center 83500 Morocco __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite
[meteorite-list] NEW Moroccan fall
Hello List Members, The bright fireball seen over Taliouine travelleing from southwest to the northeast, It has been seen over Igherm, Taliouine, Askaoune, so the right direction of the meteoritic fireball, is Igherm- tichka( Telouat where it fell). http://nwameteoritesss.skyrock.com/profil/photos/78989604 I wonder if a fireball can turn left or right and take the road to pass over Marrakech to Eljadida, maybe it just come for a tourism trip and have some swim at eljadida beach then get back to the space. My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NEW Moroccan fall
Hi Pierre and list, The trajectory is from Southwest to northeast Igherm = Telouet passed over Igherm, Taliouine, Askaoune, Boumgzare we thought first it fell at Boumgzar. those who beleive on handereds of kgs, I'm sure they missed it and will missed it as there's no hundereds. Ma best Aziz --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Pelé Pierre-Marie pierremariep...@yahoo.fr wrote: From: Pelé Pierre-Marie pierremariep...@yahoo.fr Subject: [meteorite-list] NEW Moroccan fall To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 5:48 AM Hello, that looks like a great new fall. But I found a stone was found at Tamdaght SE of Telouet, on the road to Ouarzazate. Does it confirm a trajectory from SW to NE (Igherm - Telouet) ? Were the hundreds of kilograms found near Telouet also ? Pierre __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NEW Moroccan fall
Hi Again, Sorry, I have names mixed up, I meant Amerzgane not Boumgzare. My best Aziz --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Pelé Pierre-Marie pierremariep...@yahoo.fr wrote: From: Pelé Pierre-Marie pierremariep...@yahoo.fr Subject: [meteorite-list] NEW Moroccan fall To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 5:48 AM Hello, that looks like a great new fall. But I found a stone was found at Tamdaght SE of Telouet, on the road to Ouarzazate. Does it confirm a trajectory from SW to NE (Igherm - Telouet) ? Were the hundreds of kilograms found near Telouet also ? Pierre __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
Wow, even Moroccans don't have these infos, seems like the person who called you has no gram from this fall and try to breake the real dealers whom really have it, and not forwarding pics from nomads. Aziz --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 9:36 AM I just got an interesting phone call from Morocco. It seems that this may be bigger than even the Moroccans are saying. I was told that more than one metric TON of meteorite fragments are recovered, and that apparently a massive stone fell in the Atlas mountains forming a crater, and shattering the stone into thousands of fragments. Not one complete stone found, only again MORE THAN ONE TON of fragments. I am awaiting photos. This one could be interesting! The area is completely under heavy snow right now though. Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
Never a total known weight comes out from NWA, where is bassi that everybody said there was a ton or so of it, the same for chergach, only a few grams available from Moroccans right now, prices going down reason is moroccans themselves, and for your info mike, you said you don't beleive it until you get the pics, so why didn't you wait for photos and tell what is true, maybe you are telling list members LIES, since you're not sure of what you say. This fall is limited because it fell in Morocco, not chergach or bassi, where you can not get the facts, but since it's here, what's availble of it, is what is offering now. Aziz --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 9:53 AM Perhaps it is not true, I don't know, Moroccans are certainly prone to making up lies, selling crap to anyone with money, and scamming everyone. Hence, my urge of caution to anyone wanting to buy. As a person who has spent nearly a half million $ in Morocco, I do have my suppliers and people I trust, and I trust most of what they say. Now, I am a show-me type of person, I do not believe this until I see photos or material, I still do not know if a fall occurred, I know damn well that many Moroccans do not give a shit about the meteorites, the business or the integrety of the falls (for example, ensuring that pieces are seperated and sold as what they are, not what makes more money). They want to milk collectors out of every last Dirham. Is this new fall real, or just the ugly broken pieces of Chergach that no one wants to buy (hence the weathering)? Moroccan people have done this to themselves, no one trusts much of what they say anymore, every fall, Bensour, Benguerir, Chergach, Oum Dreyga, Bassikounou, ALL of them were only a few kilos this is all, there is no more You will be the only supplier buy it now, or you wont get any I paid more but will sell to you for $1.00 gram blah blah blah. So, I am writing direct information that I am getting from a somewhat trustworthy supplier of mine in Morocco. He will be in Tucson, so you can ask him if he has some, or is it only you Aziz? We have heard this bird chirping a few times before. My customers are tired of paying $3 or $5 gram for every new fall from NWA area and them watching the price drop to $1 gram. Well, this can be solved, don't buy it yet until facts and total known weight come out. Michael Farmer --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. To: meteorite...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 10:43 AM Wow, even Moroccans don't have these infos, seems like the person who called you has no gram from this fall and try to breake the real dealers whom really have it, and not forwarding pics from nomads. Aziz --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 9:36 AM I just got an interesting phone call from Morocco. It seems that this may be bigger than even the Moroccans are saying. I was told that more than one metric TON of meteorite fragments are recovered, and that apparently a massive stone fell in the Atlas mountains forming a crater, and shattering the stone into thousands of fragments. Not one complete stone found, only again MORE THAN ONE TON of fragments. I am awaiting photos. This one could be interesting! The area is completely under heavy snow right now though. Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD; More NWAs 4sale
Hi List, New Items just added for sale at my webpage, contact me for pics and prices. My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA MATERIAL ; AD
Dear Collectors, Up for sale at excellent prices : - 1k nice thumbprinted achondrite. - 3k nice looking CV3 single stone. - 1k rare C type. - Olivine Diogenite. and some more good deals. Photos and prices on request. Cheers Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall
Hello List Members, Last Saturday, about 10:30 pm, a huge and bright fireball seen over Taliouine travelleing from southwest to the northeast, poeple in high atlas mountains confirmed that they have heard the firball hit a mountain in between Tahnaout and Ait ourir, Marrakech region. inhabitants was so scared since they have never seen a thing like that, it is so very hard to find the meteorites because of the snow, much trees, and unfortunately much stories, most are blabla. but we are always optimistic and trying to get more correct infos and why not to find this meteorite, It would be a happy ending of the 2008. My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall
Yes, poeple heard the impact and this is why they are scared, Aziz --- On Sat, 12/27/08, Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote: From: Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, December 27, 2008, 10:44 AM I'll take that as a fireball that produced sounds. I very much doubt anybody heard an impact. Still, sonic booms are a strong indicator of meteorite production. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 11:38 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall Hello List Members, Last Saturday, about 10:30 pm, a huge and bright fireball seen over Taliouine travelleing from southwest to the northeast, poeple in high atlas mountains confirmed that they have heard the firball hit a mountain in between Tahnaout and Ait ourir, Marrakech region. inhabitants was so scared since they have never seen a thing like that, it is so very hard to find the meteorites because of the snow, much trees, and unfortunately much stories, most are blabla. but we are always optimistic and trying to get more correct infos and why not to find this meteorite, It would be a happy ending of the 2008. My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Excellent Iron :AD
Dear Ironers, Up for sale, a huge Iron of 33620 pounds, It is a Moroccan find, JPS coordinates and photos of the strewnfield and the finder available for the winner. price and pictures on request. only serious collectors. Only emails come through to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be answered. Best Regards Aziz Alhyane Abdelaziz 83500 Morocco +21261655060 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : NWA Material
Hi List members, Up for sale something new for excellent prices . off list please at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pics and prices on request. Thanks Aziz Abdelaziz Alhyane 83500 Morocco +21261655060 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sorry
Dear list members, I apologize for the second ad posted to the list. My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : NWA Material
Hi List members, Up for sale something new for excellent prices . off list please at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pics and prices on request. Thanks Aziz Abdelaziz Alhyane 83500 Morocco +21261655060 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD; NWA Sale
Dear Listees, I have a for sale nine meteorites, Ctype, acho, Iron and Chondrites, for pictures, weights and prices, please contact me off list. My best Aziz Abdelaziz Alhyane 83500 Morocco +21261655060 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list