Re: [meteorite-list] New BLM Rules
Hey Carl, Give me a call please, Bill Hall 541-419-2210 Sent from my iPhone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor event, Cal-Nev-AZ
I found a 46 gram chondrite near bouse. Want the gps to it? Ruben shows it in one of his Quartzsite videos Sent from my iPhone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Need Geoff Notkins phone# please
Lost my phone, and geoffs# please help, thanks, Also need Rubens # Bill Hall Bill Halls Rock and Gem Shop Bend Oregon 541-419-2210 Sent from my iPhone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lunar and Martian dealers
I have a new Rock and Gem store in Bend Oregon, selling crystals,meteorites,jewelry, and am offering Lunar and Martian samples to my customers. I need a dealer who will furnish me descent stones at fair wholesale prices. I will need pieces big enough to put into a jewelry setting, ring or pendant. can you give me some idea what is out there and the current market and wholesale prices. I'm also interested in crystals, gemstones, mineral specimens You may e-mail me off list at meteoritics at gmail.com or call me 541-419-2210 Thanks, Bill Hall __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ash Creek trade available, need NWAs
I have a nice 9 plus gram stone I will trade for NWAs, must be 869 or at least fairly fresh like 869. I call em greenies because their not all oxidized and orange inside. I will take best offer for this stone, e-mail me off list please. I have other material I may trade as well... pics here, hope this workshttp://s680.photobucket.com/albums/vv162/meteoritepictures/ Meteoritics at gmail.comor call me 541-419-2210 Thanks! Bill Hall __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Help please. How to get large pieces Weighed
Thanks to all for the input, I went to Mail Boxes etc. and they offered to weigh them for free. I think their scale is accurate to around 100 grams. These meteorites will be for sale, and I don’t want to short anyone. Good thing is their not lunar, or anything to special that way, so this should work…..I hope Thanks again, Bill Hall __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Help please. How to get large pieces Weighed
Does anyone know where I can get my larger over 6 kilo to 70 kilo meteorites weighed without purchasing an expensive large capacity gram scale? I just need 10 or so weighed. Thanks Bill Hall __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ] Meteorites as Ammunition
How strange you should ask. A friend of mine and I decided to make some projectiles a round 6 weeks ago. I am using 1 inch slabs of Campo, and having the bullets cut out on a water jet, then finnished on a lathe. They will be shot using a 50 BMG rifle with a sabot. As soon as Nosler Bullets gets back up and running,( they had an explosion a little bit ago) we should have some slow Motion closeup balistic shots to enjoy. We want to try this on Materials like Robert Bigelows inflatable space structures. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Aliens and UFOs » Aliens Attack ing Bosnian Man with Meteorites
Not sure about this one.. Anyone heard of this meteorite attack? http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread595074/pg1 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] My meteorites on Youtube
Cool Idea using the LED stands! I like it.I like it a lot!! Bill __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ruben and Hopper in the NEWS
Cool Ruben! Thanks __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Texas Fireball?
Just noticed this report, anyone else hear anything? http://www.ufostalker.com/?mufon=true __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites, Value and the Media
Just for the record, I purchased a thick slice of the Brenham pictured in the LA Times, and threw it in a glass case without any preservation at all. I do have a small desiccant bag in the case, but this piece doesn't have a single speck of rust on it 3 years later. Ruben saw it last year in Quartszite and stuck it in his video if you care to see it... not all Brenham are rusters.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=001vxtTlBEs Bill Hall __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball across Ireland as meteorite crashes to earth
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[meteorite-list] Anyone have Marvin Kilgores e-mail or phone # please
Please help me get in touch with Marvin, Thanks Bill Hall __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Something new....
I have a slice I will try to etch. I also live in Oregon, and will try and collect some more of this material. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Men Promotion
I say promote away! I would have missed the 1st show without the promotion, and I don't want to miss the next one. Thanks Steve and Geoff!! __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Possible Tunguska Event Impact Crater Found
This might get interesting.http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,286807,00.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Richard Norton
I started my day as I almost always do, just me and an old worn out copy of ROCKS FROM SPACE. I just open it up to any old page, and read a few I don't read it so much to learn anymore (although I always do pick up something new) I just like to go to the place it takes me. Its a safe, fun, happy place to go. Its like spending time with an old friend. I decided to drive to Mt. Bachelor this morning, and found myself standing hi above Central Oregon looking down on all the glory, wondering what to do next. A bright sunny spring day, on top of the world. I felt a compelling urge to drive to the Sunriver Nature Center to look at the Norton collection on display...so I did. I stood and stared at all the incredible meteorites on display, (and drooled a bit) I day dreamed about starting a meteorite museum of my own. maybe a collaboration effort. The Norton/Hall museum I dream.. Then I come home and read the Met List. I see all the posts. I cry... I'm sorry, I don't know what to say My deepest sympathies go to Dorothy and the Norton family members, Bill Hall __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Solar meteorite
I love XPOL pics! Nice ones, also you have the infamous bubble with the #7 on it. I saw this on the Coast to Coast website, PROOF of alien life! Nice work, thanks, Bill Hall __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Meteorite CD ROM project
Hello List, I'm thinking I would like to include some of your meteorite stories, and experiences in a book project I'm working on. The book is about meteorites and meteorite hunting for the beginner. My Idea is to have a section on meteorite hunters and dealers provided by list members. There are a few win win scenarios to this Idea: 1st having a book with input from the list will hopefully prevent it from the cruel world of harsh reviews. #2 It would surly be a better compilation with every ones input. #3 whoever gets a page in the book will surly want to have a copy! Everyone in the book will share it with friends who will possibly want a copy. You get the Idea. What I propose is that everyone who wants to be in the book gets 1 page to use as he or she sees fit. Use it to express anything you like about meteorites. You may even use it for an add if you wish, promote your business, or tell us about your 1st meteorite, your 1st find, your 1 st thin section, your trip to Tucson, etc. ANYTHING about meteorites will do nicely. The book will be on CD ROM only (at this time at least), as the content, and all the color photos It will contain would drive the cost WAY up, therefore you may put pictures on your page as well. I have a great start on the project already, and have an award winning writer and editor to help out as well. The CD will be self published, and marketed, so It will for sure happen. Another Thought, if everyone were to contribute a fee for their page We could get the project done way sooner as costs for this will be in the thousands to publish. It would be good advertising for the dealers Just wanted to get some input on this, nothing is written in stone, except I will be publishing a book on CD ROM in the next year or so.. please let me know if your interested, or have any other input, Thanks, Bill Hall __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorite-list] Meteorite Men program
Loved the show, now my mom knows why I spend so much money on space rocks. Wish I could hunt with you guys, I'm jealous! Bill Hall __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Nininger Estate Items - Rare Opportunity!
This should be sold as a collection IMHO. Maybe the Kansas Meteorite Museum. What about the Crater Museum? You would think they would want it. If they don't have the funding to purchase, maybe you could trade it for hunting privileges? Just a thought... Bill Hall __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is this an ethical way to treat a meteorite?
Ok, PLEASE NOTE: I'm not recommending this to anyone, it just an experiment I tried with surprising results. Mainly the fact that it appeared to have exposed areas of fusion crust, and stabilized the specimen. What I did:#1 remove largest flakes with very light wire brushing, leaving most rust intact. #2 soak in Rust-Mort for an hour, take out, dip in water and baking soda mixture for 3 seconds to neutralize the acid, blow dry and let sit overnight to dry. Plain Phosphoric Acid Based rust treatments are used for two main reasons: #1 It dissolves rust at a much faster rate than it dissolves iron, and #2 It leaves a iron phosphate coating on the clean metal surface. The phosphate in the acid converts ferric oxide (Fe2O3) into iron phosphate (FePO4) and water in a faster simple exchange reaction: Fe2O3 + 2 H3PO4 ® 2 FePO4 + 3 H2O The water is removed when the part is cleaned but the iron phosphate will adhere due to surface effects so that it does not wash away. The hydrogen ions in the acid will attack the iron and convert it into iron phosphate (FePO4) and hydrogen gas (the bubbles) in a slower reduction-oxidation reaction: Fe + H3PO4 ® FePO4 + H2 Unless the metal is exposed to the acid for a extended period and in sufficient concentrations, the effect of the acid attacking the steel will be negligible. Some of the above information comes from Lee M. Daniels, Laboratory for Molecular Structure and Bonding, Texas AM, dani...@tamu.edu [email updated July, 2001] Rust-Mort SEM Products, Inc. 651 Michael Wylie Dr. Charlotte, NC 28217 phone: 704-522-1006 #3 Remove the brownish green crust that is left in a sandblasting cabinet, using very fine silica sand. Go easy, and use FINE sand or you will be sorry. If you are careful you will be amazed to see splotches of what appear to be black fusion crust appear. I'm not sure about this, but it looks very convincing to me. The splotches seem to be quite hard, and to have a glassy texture to them. Takes about 5 min. to do a fist sized meteorite. #4 to get rid of the sand blast texture I used a giant 12 inch industrial 3 phase polisher ( A guy I know polishes stainless steel auto trim, in the auto restoration business) these are used in chrome or polishing shops. I used green stick rouge, but you could try brown ow white as well. An 8 bench grinder with a polishing pad and green rouge might work, but I recommend the big 12 industrial unit. It takes about 10 min. to do a fist sized meteorite, depending on regmaglypts. #5 Optional and controversial: Use gun bluing to turn the meteorite back to a more natural color. #6 spray the meteorite with carnauba spray wax for automotive Paint applications #7 Pray to you higher powers that be, and debate whether to tell anyone what you have done!!! let me know if you try it, and your results please, Bill Hall On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Bill Mason bmas...@comcast.net wrote: There are better ways to treat iron meteorites that will stop further corrosion. STOP and think, what causes corrosion. Now remove the water from the interior and treat it with Vapor phase corrosion inhibitors. Now sit back and enjoy a rust free meteorite collection. Bill Mason3 rusty -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of tracy latimer Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 2:09 PM To: meteorit...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is this an ethical way to treat a meteorite? If the alternative is having the meteorite slowly become a pile of rust flakes indistinguishable from what collects at the bottom of a junkyard (except for Ni content), I say go for it! Tracy Latimer Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:50:57 -0700 From: meteorit...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Is this an ethical way to treat a meteorite? _ Rediscover HotmailR: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Sto rage1_042009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Is this an ethical way to treat a meteorite?
Thank you Mark, Good point! Disclaimer: Don't try this at home! If you do try it please be CAREFUL! Respirator, safety glasses, good ventilation, apron, gloves, etc. etc. Bill __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Is this an ethical way to treat a meteorite?
Hello list, I have an assortment of OLD Campos I purchased from a guy who lives in a very humid climate. When I received them, they were extremely rusty, and big flakes of rust falling off every time I would even look sideways at them. I debated with trying the galvanic cleansing, wire brushing, shot peening, acid baths, etc. etc. or just slicing them up, and grinding off the crusty edges. In fact I have done all of these things to test pieces, with less than miraculous results. It was, and still is my personal belief that if the rust can be removed ENTIRELY, and Either soak them in trans fluid, or carnuba spray wax, that they will stabilize. In fact it appears I may have done so, but with some interesting side affects. I know many meteorite enthusiasts are against changing the natural appearance of a meteorite, with good reason, However considering the circumstances and possible repercussions of doing nothing at all I have transformed an old Campo. This process removes ALL rust, leaves small splotches of shiny fusion crust ( at least it sure appears to be ) and provides nice polish. It also appears to have stopped all further oxidation, and no sign of laurencite disease. I am not able to perform this process without the final polish, so I get stuck with a shiny meteorite. I have seen people go another step to remove the shine, I just kind of like it for now And on another note: As Joe Dirt said to Kickin wing, Well that might be your problem, its not what you like, its the consumer. I have shown rusty irons to people who scowl, and exclaim why do you think its a meteorite! But when I show them a polished Iron their faces light up in utter amazement, and will often offer $1 gram or more for them...Just something to consider. Please check out the photos on photo bucket, and let me know your honest opinions. If the consensus is that this is an EVIL thing to do to a meteorite I will surly take it into consideration. No doubt it will make some frown, and give some hope to others. Bill Hall http://s680.photobucket.com/albums/vv162/meteoritepictures/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] What metal detector works well on finding a stone meteorite?
I would get a gold bug for detecting very small bits if Iron, however to Rubens surprise as well as another meteorite hunter I know (who is not a list member) I found an old weathered chondrite with my Minelab Eureka Gold. The Minelab is very controversial machine it seems, but I really like mine, and think the people who are unhappy with them simply don't understand how to use them. Many humans are strangely unable to grasp simple concepts and follow directions. Always take a test meteorite with you and tune your detecter to pick it up, If you have it set to pick up an L chondrite it will get the H chondrites as well. Example: I swear this happened yesterday! A customer called me ( who lives in Alaska) and said she had no water in her motor home. The RV park manager had already told her the supply hose to her RV was FROZEN, and had disconnected it for her. When I arrived I explained to her to simply bring the hose inside for a few hours to let it thaw out and everything would be OK. Several hours later she calls frantically exclaiming she still has no water!! OH Dear! I asked her to unhook it from the RV and see if water would come out of the hose? She finally understood what I meant and tried it. Nope, no water, ( I was watching her from across the park and could tell she didn't turn on the faucet, so after a few more minuets I taught her all about the way a water faucet works. Yea!! now she has water.god I hope she knows what to do with it. Good luck! Bill __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] [AD] 9.7 Gram West for sale or trade? And a few others...
I have a 9.7 gram West to sell or part trade for ? Lunar, martian, carbonatious , best offer... I also have a 5.8 kilo Muonionalusta I would like to sell for .20 gram = $1160 or part trade for? I also have a really nice flawless 12 kilo oriented chondrite available. Not sure what its worth as I've never seen one like it before. $5000? I posted some pics on photobucket of the west, and if you click open the album called my meteorites you can see a so so pic of the big chondrite is in the display case. if anyone is interested I will send better photos, just testing the waters for now. As to the Muonionalusta, I don't have a pic, (its in storage) but I will tell you, it looks like a big giant baked potato that has been smooshed a bit, and has had MOST of the crust removed, so you aren't buying rust chunks, also it has been soaked in transmission fluid to prevent rust. This is my 1st AD, hope I did everything correctly, new at the list and photo bucket, e-mail me off list please or just give me a phone call if interested, 541-419-2210 thanks for looking! Bill Hall http://s680.photobucket.com/albums/vv162/meteoritepictures/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thin Section Page
Really liked your website, spent an hour clicking every link! Thanks, Bill Hall __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] cool impact video
A nice impact video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zvCUmeoHpw have a nice day! __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Iridium (+ Osmium ? + Technetium ?) measuring and testing
How about hand held XRF (EX-RAY FLORESCENCE) www.niton.com Bill __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Iridium (+ Osmium ? + Technetium ?) measuring and testing
depends on machine and operator I suppose. These are quite expensive tools, and I just discovered them a few days ago. They are used in mineral prospecting, and will do elemental composition in ppm I think. Bill Hall __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] test
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[meteorite-list] I'm so happy! My 1st Post
of meteorite. Special thanks to Carl from South Africa for the Gibeon deal. I skipped the Auction, tucked tail and went back to Quartzsite, packed my stuff and prepared to head home, and WEST happened. But that's a different story! So happy to finally be able to post, Promise to never break the rules on purpose, wont spam or be mean, and will help this be a positive, productive, enjoyable, learning experience. Have a great day, Bill Hall __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] I'm so happy! My 1st Post
Thanks to all, It will take me a while to figure out how to reply to everyone in the proper manner( I know what I want to say just need to get used to the process). For now thanks to those who replied to my post as well as those who will no doubt welcome me in the next few days. It is greatly appreciated to be accepted into a group like yours. Rubens statement about my being articulate is strange, as I am terrible with my grammar, (but thanks Ruben!) Thanks again to all, Bill Hall . __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
