Re: [meteorite-list] ...at when?

2019-05-05 Thread Bob Holmes via Meteorite-list
Good work. Glad to see you were able to acquire some. I am interested in 
purchasing a piece. Please send pertinent info. Hope all is well,Bob-- 
Original message--From: Kevin Kichinka via Meteorite-list Date: Sat, May 4, 
2019 6:37 PMTo: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;Cc: 
Subject:[meteorite-list] ...at when?...when the electric goes back on following 
that glitch.I'll accept Paypal, 'Kevin Kichinka'.Write me first, I have photos 
but my primitive camera doesn't do well with all-black objects.Thank you.Kevin 
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD : Mars, Moon, carbon, oc

2019-03-14 Thread Bob Holmes via Meteorite-list
Hello-Yes, I would like to know what you have.Thanks,Bob-- Original 
message--From: aziz alhyane via Meteorite-list Date: Thu, Mar 14, 2019 6:07 
AMTo: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;Cc: Subject:[meteorite-list] AD : 
Mars, Moon, carbon, ocHello Members. I have some fine quality NWA material for 
sale.Please, if you are interested, contact me off list.Best regardsAbdelaziz 
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[meteorite-list] Dean Bessey

2017-08-08 Thread Bob Holmes via Meteorite-list
Sorry to bother the list, but if you see this,

Dean Bessey, please contact me offlist.

Bob Holmes
bobhol...@cox.net
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites - Oriented vs. Orientated: What’s the Difference?

2016-05-06 Thread Bob Holmes via Meteorite-list
I only see where the use is as a verb. In this meteoritic context it is an 
adjective. 
While 'orientated' may be correct, the historic and accepted use has always 
been 'oriented'.
Orientated sounds wrong and doesn't flow off my tongue easily.
Bob
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5, 2016 11:42 AMTo: drtan...@yahoo.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;Cc: 
Subject:Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites - Oriented vs. Orientated: What’s the 
Difference?
"oriented-vs-orientated-differencePerhaps oriented?! or not?"Dirk, perhaps so, 
if "three men make a tiger".There are serious logical flaws lacing the 
arguments and opinions presented in your link.  There's an argument/appeal to a 
non-existent authority - the author is nobody remarkable.  The worst is an 
appeal to numbers ("It's usage is more common so it is right"). Many words are 
less common, yet thankfully exist and can be used even though shorter ones are 
workable substitutes.  Here's another grammar-assisting website:"But, once 
again, orientate is an accepted variant of orient and is not wrong."ref: 
http://grammarist.com/usage/orientate/Now just for fun, let's use an appeal to 
numbers to decide which site is more reliable.grammarist (my site.  look at the 
trend and my fancy graph):http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/grammarist.com+and then 
writingexplained.org (your site.  fancy graph and numbers 
again)http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/writingexplained.org+So I would conclude 
with fancy graphs and statistics (two above links) that because the link your 
site just popped out of nowhere in March 2016 and is in 73,500th place 
worldwide at this writing, and the site I linked to is in 9,300th place 
worldwide, and around for years and continually getting more popular in the 
rankings --for now perhaps 10x more consulted-- that we should avoid using your 
site as a reference.  "three men make a tiger"?Both words are grammatically 
correct in my book and it comes down to style which is strictly a personal 
decision of whoever is writing.  IMO, Everyone understands them ...  There is 
no shame in word choice, and most people won't mind the extra t and a here and 
there.Kindest wishesDoug-Original Message-From: drtanuki via 
Meteorite-list To: Meteorite Mailing List Sent: Thu, May 5, 2016 9:48 
amSubject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites - Oriented vs. Orientated: What’s the 
Difference?List, Here you 
go-http://writingexplained.org/oriented-vs-orientated-difference Perhaps 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Key Capital Announces Major Potential Meteorite Mining Opportunity Joint Ventured

2015-12-03 Thread Bob Holmes via Meteorite-list
Larry-

I will bet you lunch in Tucson that the sample came from an area in the general 
area bounded by Oracle, Florence and Red Rock.

I have seen something like this several times before.

Bob Holmes

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From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On 
Behalf Of Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 3:10 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Key Capital Announces Major Potential Meteorite 
Mining Opportunity Joint Ventured

Hi List,
Thanks for all the off list responses.
I'm not interested in where the company is located. More specifically, where is 
this mining location? Is it Meteor Crater? It says the meteoric impactor was an 
achondrite.

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/marketwire/1233264.htm


Sincerely,
Larry Atkins
 
IMCA # 1941
Ebay alienrockfarm
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Stinky meteorites

2010-07-24 Thread Bob Holmes
Hello Chris and List-

Another worth noting is NWA 096. When cut, it smelled like bubble gum.
This was noticed by myself and quite a few others.

Bob

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote:
 Many CCs have a funny smell Murchison is another one that readily comes to
 mine.

 Chris. Spratt
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[meteorite-list] AD-130kg Campo

2010-03-19 Thread Bob Holmes
Hello list-

It's not a GIbeon, but it is a big one. 130kg Campo

http://www.meteoritebiz.com/campo130kg.html

Bob
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Re: [meteorite-list] Degrees in Meteoritics

2010-02-17 Thread Bob Holmes
(Posted for Dave Mouat)



Please pass this on for me.

Michael Blood is dead wrong on this.  In the physical sciences
(meteoritics, geology, physics, etc.), having a strong background in
mathematics, physics, and chemistry is absolutely essential.  If you
have a BA in English (with little or no coursework in those fields),
you would have to be one incredibly sharp cookie to be considered for
a graduate program in the physical sciences.  You would be taking
graduate courses in geochemistry, geophysics and the like with no
background in the basics.  In fact, most graduate courses have
prerequisites (read undergrad courses in related fields).

My two cents worth

Dave (current grad student advisor; former Coordinator, Arid Lands
Resource Sciences PhD Program, UofAZ

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote:

 Hi Steve and all,
        With few exceptions, it matters little what one major is in when
 Getting a BA. In fact, most graduate schools prefer to take students
 With a different BA than the focus of the Masters or PhD program
 To which they are applying. They openly state they prefer to see
 Students from broad backgrounds in their programs.
        Of course, if one wants to be a medical doctor, an engineer or
 Seeks a 2 year professional AA, then, of course, one's major matters
 Far more.
        Therefore, I encourage you to feel no hesitation at all  in
 recommending, or at least informing students of colleges that offer
 opportunities in the field of meteoritics.
        This is an example of one of the many ways METEORITE MEN
 Are a service to the meteorite community.
        Best wishes, Michael



 On 2/17/10 9:38 AM, Steve Arnold dealer/Qynne meteorh...@aol.com wrote:

  On a side note, is there much demand  for new meteorite scientists out
  there?  If all the slots are filled, or  someone isn't likely to be able to
  get
  a job once they would get a degree, I  might want to caution kids not to get
  too serious about this field for a career  without seriously evaluating the
  options first.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Cryptic AZ fall?

2009-11-04 Thread Bob Holmes
Hello List-

Great post Dave. With all this talk of the West fall, I am surprised
at the lack of interest in the AZ fall. There has been much less
recovered and the tale of Jack's recovery effort provides an equally
(if not moreso) interesting story.

Further, I have not seen any of this new fall offered publicly. Good
fortune allowed me to get a few smaller pieces.

I am curious how its value compares to West.

Cheers,
Bob Holmes


On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Dave Gheesling d...@fallingrocks.com wrote:
 What is the official name of the meteorite that fell in southern Arizona
 this summer?  Heard it was Benson from someone.  Everybody was looking for
 that one, but it's been quiet since Jack Schrader posted his announcement.
 This is probably because of all the other distractions.

 Stone number one was recovered by Schrader, a meteorite hunter, less than 45
 hours after the fall.  That's a first, at least here in the United States.
 Only European meteorite hunter Thomas Grau, I think, has triangulated and
 personally recovered the first stone from a fall before Schrader?  Not
 nearly as quickly as Schrader found his piece, but almost improbable to
 believe this could happen twice in the same year and never before!  Everyone
 out in the southwest hunted for the meteorite, but presumably no one else
 found a piece.

 Memory tells me that Schrader was very concerned with doing good field
 science around this fall - with documenting the event and mapping the strewn
 field?  Only a few hunters were brought into his recovery project.
 Unusually enough, virtually nothing has been said publicly about this new
 Arizona fall.  Not until today, anyway.

 This is the first step towards formally introducing the meteorite to the
 public.  Arizona's second-ever witnessed fall.  It has been a real honor to
 have documented the event and recovery for Schrader.  Now, whether you
 realize it or not, the meteorite's name is staring right at you.  Shouldn't
 take long.so, who's going to be the first to figure it out?

 Dave Gheesling
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[meteorite-list] AD, Catching up

2009-07-28 Thread Bob Holmes
Hello All-

I leave town for a week and come back to an interesting batch of
emails. Doing some catch-up work I noticed the discussion about the
Catalogue of Meteorites (Grady, 1985).

For anyone interested in obtaining one, I have a spare copy for sale.
It is in 'like new' condition and includes the CD.

Please contact me at bobhol...@cox.net

Cheers,
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[meteorite-list] Richard Norton memorial

2009-07-04 Thread Bob Holmes
I'm posting this on behalf of Dave Mouat.

Dear Listees

Last Sunday, I had the honor to pay tribute to a man I have known for
more than a third of a century (that's right: over 33 years, I was a
young Prof at the U of AZ and he was a young but slightly older person
who was talking about the desirability of a planetarium at the UofA).
I later found out that he was also a faculty (earlier) at the place I
now work: the Desert Research Institute of the Nevada System of Higher
Education.  Quite a coincidence.
The Memorial for Richard took place at the home of Dorothy Norton in
Bend, Oregon, where they had lived for over 20 years (and a beautiful
home it is).
Dorothy had asked me to say something about Richard, the scientist and
meteoriticist.  I borrowed a couple of pieces from his collection and
augmented them with some of my own.  I added anecdotes about Richard's
passion and dedication as a scientist (somewhat of a rarity as a lot
of us plod through our work rather than tackle it with the fervor and
enthusiasm of a post doc).  I also mentioned how Richard had argued
with the serious research community involved with meteorites that the
hobby had added material for researchers not taken it away from them
(of course, this is still a bit controversial).  I mentioned the
articles and explanations that Richard patiently gave us.
There were no people at the Memorial who knew him as a scientist save
for a neurologist, they were mostly music lovers, a side of Richard
that most of the meteorite community was not aware, and the gathering
was astounded to hear how we (and you) regarded him.  I think the one
thing that was so special was a book of contributions of special
memories from you Listees that someone decided to print out on heavy
paper as a lasting testiment for Dorothy to treasure and cherish.
Even the gathering there was moved by the words that many of you
wrote.
I am honored and proud to be among you.

In fond memory of Richard

Dave
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Re: [meteorite-list] Stinky Meteorite

2009-06-20 Thread Bob Holmes
Hello Michael and List-

It was indeed NWA 096. The smell was also likened to  bubble-gum. The
two slices I have both still retain some of that scent. It has a very
interesting matrix with large orange clasts.

Cheers,
Bob Holmes



On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 5:23 PM, michael cottinghammikew...@gilanet.com wrote:
 Hello,

 In the early days when Mike Farmer and I where bringing over the very first
 batches of NWA's, I believe it was NWA 96? or NWA 90 something, somewhere
 around that number, we had one that upon cutting smelled like Cotton Candy
 It baffled everyone as to what the smell was or where it came from. It was
 distinct though and no doubt it came from within the meteorite. Some of you
 know which one I am talking about.  The smell of that meteorite made me
 think of the county fairs I have been to! Since then I have come across many
 chondrites both carbonaceous and ordinary that have had distinct
 smells-smells like charcoal, gunpowder, bubble gum or cotton candy, acid
 like smells, paint smells, and other smells.  A strange event and very hard
 to pin point down to the cause...

 Best Wishes

 Michael Cottingham
 http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history




 On Jun 20, 2009, at 5:07 PM, Greg Catterton wrote:


 Perhaps its the first Urineite...
 I have had a few that had a rotten egg like smell, but never urine.

 Greg C.

 --- On Sat, 6/20/09, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote:

 From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Stinky Meteorite
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 7:49 PM
 Hi List,

 Don't laugh! This is weird...

 While slicing some unclassified chondrite meteorites I
 noticed one meteorite that was particularly odoriferous. I
 don't really want to say what this piece smells like as I
 don't know if it's appropriate list content. Let's just say
 that dogs lift their leg to fire hydrants, and maybe,
 sometime in the past, this stone just happened to be in the
 wrong place at the wrong time.

 The smell was super intense while cutting. At first I
 didn't know where it was coming from, then when I finished
 the cut, I actually smelled the stone to see if that's where
 the odor was originating. Sure enough! Yuck!

 I've cleaned the stone throughly. No amount of cleaning
 will remove the smell. It's definitely coming from within
 the meteorite itself.

 Has anyone else had any of their NWA stone meteorites that
 smell really bad?

 -- Regards,
 Eric Wichman
 Meteorites USA
 http://www.meteoritesusa.com
 904-236-5394

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[meteorite-list] AD: ebay auction ending tomorrow

2009-06-14 Thread Bob Holmes
Hello All-

For those interested, I have a few items ending tomorrow.

http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/bobholmes

Cheers,
Bob
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[meteorite-list] AD 130kg Campo

2009-05-20 Thread Bob Holmes
Hello List-

I have a very nice, large Campo for sale. If you wish to view it,
simply go to http://www.meteoritebiz.com/campo130kg.html

Cheers,
Bob
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[meteorite-list] A good read for meteorite enthusiasts

2009-04-01 Thread Bob Holmes
Came across this a few minutes ago. Thought you might enjoy.

http://megaspacenews.info/national_news/090401_a.htm

Bob
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[meteorite-list] ASU lecture

2009-03-03 Thread Bob Holmes
Hello List-
Here is a note from ASU about an event they are hosting. Thought you
might be interested.

Bob Holmes


We thought you might be interested in a free lecture at ASU this
Wednesday, March 4, at 7:30pm, entitled Catastrophic Solar System:
Impacts and the Latest Revolution in Earth Science. Information is
attached, or can be found at http://beyond.asu.edu. You may also
telephone (480) 965-3240. Hope to see you there! ASU Center for
Meteorite Studies meteori...@asu.edu
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Re: [meteorite-list] List Members, what's your job ?

2009-02-22 Thread Bob Holmes
Hello All-
Dave Mouat asked me to post this for him.
Cheers,
Bob



From: David Mouat
Dear Listees
I agree with the majority of those who chimed in that this is indeed
interesting and after all of you who have preceded me, I'll chime in.
Am among the older members but not the oldest.  Am a research scientist with
an interest in global deserts (yes, I can put you to sleep talking about
deserts as some of you know) -- have been to all continents (except
Antarctica) and nearly all deserts.  Have a pseudoscientific interest in the
geochemistry of meteorites (the geochem part is a hobby -- how is that
possible?).
And am honored to be part of this interesting and incredibly diverse group.
alias Hohohoba
Dave
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[meteorite-list] test

2008-09-21 Thread Bob Holmes



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Re: [meteorite-list] 2 kilo unclassified forsale (ad)

2008-07-31 Thread Bob Holmes

Five hours ago you posted:

Hi again list.I have 4 meteorites forsale.I have 2 NWA 1685 Individuals (82 
grams $150) and (90 grams $200).I also have a 234 gram endcut of (nwa 788 
$200).And I have a 300 gram slice of (SAU 001 $175.00)I have pics of all of 
them,plus free shipping.Let me know offlist.No more ad posts after this one.


Did I miss something in that last sentence?



- Original Message - 
From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:11 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] 2 kilo unclassified forsale (ad)


Hello list.I have a 2 kilo unclassified masterpiece forsale.SORRY NO 
TRADES!!This is a $1500 stone but I will except $1000 for it.It was space 
rocks of the day last week.Pictures everwhere.Please let me know offlist.









 steve arnold



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Re: [meteorite-list] Gary Foote Recovery Auction

2008-07-24 Thread Bob Holmes
Thanks for all your efforts Maria. I also want to give a shout out to John 
Gwilliam for his work on the auction website. You have both done an 
admirable job.


Bob Holmes


- Original Message - 
From: Maria Haas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: IMCA Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:04 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Gary Foote Recovery Auction




Hello Everyone,

As much as I have hesitated to have a cut-off date for items donated for 
the Gary Foote Recovery Auction, I am going to have to so that I can get 
the auction started. If you could, please have items (or email me pictures 
and descriptions of items) at my house by 12:00 Noon PST on Thursday, July 
24th. Contact me off-list for my address if you don't already have it.


Please look in your meteorite shrines, open up those cabinets and look 
inside those boxes under your desk for any meteorites or meteorite-related 
collectables you can part with. This is an occasion where anything you can 
do will make a huge difference in Gary and CJ's life.


I have a seven-day silent auction planned and have some really terrific 
items to auction. Pictures, descriptions, minimum bids and auction rules 
will be up on John Gwilliam's website at 
http://meteoriteimpact.com/footeauction.htm soon. Bids will be taken via 
email and telephone to me and each item will be updated daily at 7:00 pm 
PST with the highest bid. I prefer that the successful bidders pay via 
PayPal but if that doesn't work for you, please let me know prior to 
bidding on an item and we will work something out.


Please don't hesitate to contact me with any questions.

I don't want to get too gushy here but I have to tell you all something. 
Being the middleperson when you all get together to help someone is just 
the nicest, heartwarming feeling ever. Thank you so very much for your 
support and thank you for what you have done for Gary and CJ.


I'll post again to let you know when the auction is starting.

My best to you,
Maria
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Re: [meteorite-list] Samples

2007-12-27 Thread Bob Holmes

This might help. See section 7.

http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/bulletin/nc-guidelines.htm

Bob

- Original Message - 
From: Peter A Shugar [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: LIST meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:24 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Samples



Hello Listies,
Maybe someone can answer this for me.
Where did the 20% value come from to classify a meteorite? If a meteorite 
were found
that, say , was 1.2 grams, unpaired with anything else, then the sample 
must needs be
.24 grams, if I've figured right. This is a very significant portion of 
the meteorite.
Then on the other hand should one be found that was 1 ton, the sample 
would be 400
pounds. If a classification can be done with .24 gram, why can't it be 
done with a much

smaller piece of the 1 ton meteorite?
Just learning here, please bear with me.
Thanks,
Pete
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Re: [meteorite-list] Another meteorite claim

2007-12-21 Thread Bob Holmes

Ron-

I think you missed the point. The 'arrogance' lies with those who, even 
after reputable science has repeatedly proven them wrong, still tout their 
rocks as priceless meteorites.


Bob


- Original Message - 
From: Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another meteorite claim



As a person who also collects minerals (NO, they aren't as you say common
worthless rocks) as well as smaller meteorites (no, I can't collect the
million dollar meteorites like you apparently do), that's a bit of an
ARROGANT statement don't you think? We all make the same mistake at one 
time

or another.
Unless of course as I'm finding out every day I'm on this list, we're
Michael Farmer.

Ron



so sad to see delusional people who think that their
common worthless rock is worth millions.
If Randall is involved with this new Venus
Meteorite, then this will be a hoot and a holler!
Sit back and enjoy the ride.
Michael Farmer
--- Ken Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 This is a photo of basalt from Mike's pen pal, Mr.
 Gregory.
 (And 'Yes', basalt can have a magnetic attraction.)

http://meteorite-identification.com/images/basalt-close.jpg

 And basalt from the (not) venusmeteorite site
 (now collaborating with Mr. Gregory ) :
 http://www.venusmeteorite.com/TVM-lot1-012a.jpg
 http://www.venusmeteorite.com/bonus2.jpg

 Now, if you want to see a really good wrong:

http://meteorite-identification.com/images/wrong1.jpg

http://meteorite-identification.com/images/wrong2.jpg
 best,
 ken

 Darren Garrison wrote:
  Check out the photo with the article.
 
 



http://www.dailypressandargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071220/NEWS01
/712200310/1002

 
  Here's an upsampled copy of the photo:
 
 

http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/dec2007meteormaybe.jpg
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Re: [meteorite-list] Amusing Ebay Auction

2007-10-15 Thread Bob Holmes

Check out his feedback. He has been attacked by 'militant evolutionists


http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2userid=dinosaurologyftab=FeedbackAsSellersspagename=VIP:feedback:2:usiid=270175803889

Bob


- Original Message - 
From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Amusing Ebay Auction



On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:22:00 -0700, you wrote:


Hello All,
Not the usual scammer, etc - this one I just find funny and thought
you might like to see:

http://cgi.ebay.com/GAO-Iron-Meteorite_W0QQitemZ270175803889QQihZ017QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



I was wondering what the funny part was until I got to that last sentence.
Silly person, doesen't he know that asteroids were created by the flood, 
not

vice versa?

http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/Asteroids2.html
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[meteorite-list] AD More Bassikounou

2007-06-21 Thread Bob Holmes

Hello List-

I guess I might as jump on board as well and offer a few pieces of this new 
fall. If you are interested, just follow the link.


http://www.meteoritebiz.com/Bassikounou.html

Cheers,
Bob 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Not and Idea for list to think about - Thanksfor the feedback!

2007-03-15 Thread Bob Holmes

Gary-

Who asked that you offered this 'opinion' (in the message immediately 
below)?


Curious,
Bob


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not and Idea for list to think about -
Thanks for the feedback!

Does this strike anyone else as an attempt to help a commercial site
make more
$$$
by streamlining their output at your expense?


- Original Message - 
From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not and Idea for list to think about - 
Thanksfor the feedback!



Apparently nobody has noticed my attempts to offer other's sales on my 
site - free
of charge.  So, am I the scapegpoat of the week?  Looks like...  So much 
for

offering opinions that were asked for.  See ya!

Gary




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Re: [meteorite-list] Image Copyright (was: Look at this greatauction!)

2006-12-12 Thread Bob Holmes
The copyright issue notwithstanding, has he asked Jim to use it?

- Original Message - 
From: Herbert Raab [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Image Copyright (was: Look at this 
greatauction!)



 I linked the image from a website. It was a copyright free bw
 image and I didn't suspect the site owner didn't like image linking...

 Is there really no copyright on these images? One can't assume that,
 just because its a old black and white image, there is no copyright
 on it.

 Russia joined the Berne Convention in 1995, so I assume the image
 is copyrighted for the life time of the author plus 70 years. As far as
 I know, this is also valid for works that were created before 1995.

 So, even if the photograpger died immediately after the Sikhote Alin
 impact, the copyright would not expire before 2017...

 Cheers,
  Herbert


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Re: [meteorite-list] Steves $1.00 auctions

2006-12-04 Thread Bob Holmes
Hello Bob,

Thank you for your concern, but I am not worried. I bought the piece in good 
faith, paid immediately in good faith, and I am sure Steve will send it out 
promptly, with equally good faith.

Bob

- Original Message - 
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To: Bob Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 4:59 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Steves $1.00 auctions


 Bob,

 Please hold this dimwit accountable for the mess he has gotten himself 
 into.
 His loss is well deserved.
 Get ready for a negative feedback, though.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Scumbag Steve Arnold Chicago

2006-11-23 Thread Bob Holmes
Why not now simply take the piece at your purchase price of $1.00?

Never ceasing to be amazed,
Bob

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 10:13 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Scumbag Steve Arnold Chicago


 For those who care,
 This dips..t never ceases to amaze me.
 I bought an item from the mentally challenged Steve Arnold on ebay a while
 back.
 Apparently he listed the item for $1.00 by mistake. So he called me
 acknowledging the mistake and I said  no problem you aren't obligated to
 sell me it, I'll just let it go 

 Well,
 The moron just left me a negative feedback for the item that we agreed to
 cancel.
 See it here:
 http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=maccers531ssPageName=STRK:ME:UFS

 Heres the item:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290035883516

 Watch out for this guy he will stab his own mother in the back.

 Happy Thanksgiving everyone !!!

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Re: [meteorite-list] looking for a piece mb

2006-11-12 Thread Bob Holmes

Maybe if you spelled it 'Millbillillie', you wouldn't hate it so much!


- Original Message - 
From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:22 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] looking for a piece mb


Hi again list.I hate writing out the word
millbbilliiee,so I shortend it to mb.I am looking for
a complete 7 to 12 gram complete 100% crusted
individual of mb for my collection.Any offers will be appreciated.

Steve Arnold,Chicago,USA!!
BIG Steve's Meteorites,1999!!
Website://:stormbringer60120.tripod.com





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Re: [meteorite-list] Harvey Awards - New Catagory

2006-01-24 Thread Bob Holmes

Most certainly!

- Original Message - 
From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 12:24 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Harvey Awards - New Catagory



Dear List Members,

A month or two ago I posted to the list that I felt that Steve Arnold - 
IMB and Phil Mani should be nominated for a Harvey Award for their Huge 
Brenham Main Mass discovery and also Geoff Notkin for his tireless work on 
behalf of the Hurricane Katrina Fund Raiser among other too-numerous to 
list meteorite-related activities.


I know that Geoff and Steve originally set up the Harvey Awards where they 
could not nominate themselves for an award. I would like all list members 
to join me here on the list to nominate these fine gentleman for a Harvey 
Award an encourage them to make a new category where they could receive an 
award if enough of us voted YES to this. Maybe they could create a 
People's Choice award or something along these lines.


Everyone in favor, send the list a resounding YES and lets acknowledge 
their contributions and achievements in public.


Consider this my YES vote...

Best regards,

Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
NaturesVault (eBay)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IMCA 3163

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[meteorite-list] AD-Collection Sale

2005-06-23 Thread Bob Holmes

Hello All-

I am selling a collection (60 or so items), that I wish to sell in its 
entirety. It is mostly common material, but nice stuff, and a couple of 
exceptional pieces.


For those interested, write me off-list for the list of items (.xls 
attachment). I will be accepting offers, but for the entire lot only.


Best regards,
Bob Holmes 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Pre-vacation Meteorite Givaways

2005-06-02 Thread Bob Holmes

Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! steve_arnol60120 at yahoo.com
Fri May 27 18:13:17 EDT 2005
Well I am taking the advise of mr.herr martin
and take my sales to YAHOOGROUPS to make advertisements concerning
meteorites.I am truly sorry for all the socalled spam I have been giving
the list.It will not happen anymore.

Hello All,
I don't recall signing up for his yahoo group, but I just got the post 
below.

Hmmm...




- Original Message - 
From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 4:22 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Pre-vacation Meteorite Givaways



Hello list.I have been getting alot of new meteorites for my collection
and I have some doubles, so I thought before I go on vacation next week,I
would offer up a few freebies.Here is what is going bye-bye:NWA 1933 2.21
gram slice,HUCKITTA 8.5 gram fragment,SAU 001 7.7 gram individual,and NWA
788 11 gram individual.If you chime in the next 45 minutes it will go out
tomorrow.If not, it will wait till I get back on the 15th.


   steve arnold, mazatlan,mexico bound,chicago

Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120


Illinois Meteorites,Ltd!


website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com


















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[meteorite-list] AD-1153g Canyon Diablo w/hole

2005-06-01 Thread Bob Holmes

Hello All-
I have a real nice Canyon Diablo for sale that can be seen at 
http://www.meteoritebiz.com/CanyonDiablo1153.htm. Asking price is right 
around $1/gram! If you have any interest, please contact me off list.

Thanks,
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Re: [meteorite-list] 77-78 NE fall?

2005-05-19 Thread Bob Holmes
Someone please offer this man a deal on this book!
Doug,
With all respect, the Jensen's regular price is a pretty good deal on this 
book.
Bob

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 77-78 NE fall?

Tom thanks Martin and awards him ¿a smiley?:
Martin kindly  suggests:
The Chronological Index of Falls in your copy  of
Meteorites A-Z is a great place to look for answers  to
questions like yours.

I would have looked there, but I don't own a copy! : )
Thanks,
Tom, shame, letting such an answer-oriented book go to waste!   Meteorites A
-Z is available from several nice listmembers and is highly  recommended to
answer all sorts of routine questions about dates and falls  instantly! 
Someone
please offer this man a deal on this book!  Or see  if he'll trade for a
piece of his nice Franconia find!!
:-)

Also Tom,  another good source faster than posting is the NHM online
Catalogue search  feature, where you can just put the year in this link I 
have copied
for you  below (book mark it), selecting fallsand the year in this case. 
I
tried  1977 and 1978 on two clicks and only came up with one in the US,
Louisville,  in Kentucky, but that was on January 31, not in the summer. 
Instead
of  specifying USA I left it open for all countries, the search works better
that  way, and of course Canada was a possibility an answer for your 
question!!

http://internt.nhm.ac.uk/cgi-bin/earth/metcat/indexmany.dsml
Saludos,  Doug
- Original Message -
From: Martin H.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tom Knudson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; met  list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, May 19,  2005 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 77-78 NE fall?

Hi  Tom,
The Chronological Index of Falls in your copy of
 Meteorites A-Z is a great place to look for answers to
questions like  yours.
Globally, there were two or three falls during  summer
months of 1977 and 1978, but nothing around Michigan.
Two  falls were in China, and one in Iraq.
Cheers,
 Martin
--- Tom Knudson  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello List, I watched  the video of the Chicago
 fireball filmed by a police
  car, and it reminded me, back in the summer of 77 or
 78 can't  quite
 remember, I was back in Brighton Michigan and saw a
  flash just like it.
I was just wondering if  there was a fall around
 that time west of
 Michigan, or  in Michigan?

 Thanks, Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] Portales Valley Classification Info

2005-05-17 Thread Bob Holmes
Tom ,
I don't believe you were ever chided for questioning the need for 
reclassifying, I believe the problem stemmed from your derogatory remarks 
about those working (or not working, lazy, as you assert), on PV. AND as you 
can see now, work was being done, they were not sitting on their hands, 
doing nothing. Further, it seems to me as though they had a new type of 
class and wanted to be sure of their results.

That PV was not an ordinary H6 is not an opinion that was yours alone, and 
you were part of a vast majority. Instead of patting yourself on the back, 
why don't you apologize for your derisive insinuations about those who have 
put much time and effort into the study of PV.

Bob Holmes
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Robert Woolard [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Portales Valley Classification Info


Hi List, back in March of 2004, I made a lot of enemies on the list for
asking;
 I have to ask, was Portales Valley classified as a H6 ordinary
chondrite because they were to lazy to make up a new classification?  It
would seem to me that this unique meteorite deserves it's own group 
instead
of being shoved into an already existing group.
I do not feel like we have found every type of meteorite yet, are they
going do this with all of them, just sticking them in existing categories,
or will they make a new one if need be?

I was called everything from an idiot to a stupid mother $#*^#  by a lot 
of
people on the list for questioning the classification. I was put in my
place, never question the scientists, if they said it was a H6 ordinary
chondrite, then it was!

Just thought it was interesting . : )
Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier 
- Original Message -
From: Robert Woolard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 7:21 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Portales Valley Classification Info

Hello List,
  Well for years now, I know a lot of us were puzzled
by the classification of Portales Valley as an  H6
ordinary chondrite. (See my article in the May 2001
issue of Meteorite, titled  Portales Valley - A Not
So Ordinary (Ordinary Chondrite??)!   In the recent
past, the classification was modified a bit, being
changed to read as an  H6 Impact Melt Breccia .
  I am excited to be able to say that there is a
distinct chance the true uniqueness of PV may soon be
reflected in a possible new moniker for this
intriguing meteorite. David Weir was kind enough to
make me aware of a new and comprehensive paper by Alex
Ruzicka, Marvin Killgore, David Mittlefehldt, and Marc
Fries in the current MAPS. In this detailed work, we
now have the proposed reclassification of PV as an 
H7, metallic-melt breccia (primitive achondrite),
with the case made for a new meteorite type
designation of Portalesite due to this metallic-melt
breccia characteristic.
  You can read David's updated description of PV on
his excellent website here:
http://www.meteoritestudies.com
  Many thanks to David for news of this exciting
paper, and to the authors of the paper as well.
  Sincerely,
  Robert Woolard











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Re: [meteorite-list] Portales Valley Classification Info

2005-05-17 Thread Bob Holmes
Tom,
The word 'lazy' came from your post, not mine. Perhaps there was an error in 
the initial classification, but obviously many people realized the need for 
clarification and were quite diligent in their pursuits. This is an ongoing 
process. I for one, thank Jeff Grossman for standing up and explaining what 
the process was.  You complain about all the negativity on the list, but 
here you are again (the Pope, Barringer, remember?), espousing negativity.

What is it you want from 'them'?
Bob

- Original Message - 
From: Tom Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bob Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Woolard 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Portales Valley Classification Info


Hi Bob,
 I don't believe you were ever chided for questioning the need for
reclassifying, I believe the problem stemmed from your derogatory remarks
about those working (or not working, lazy, as you assert), on PV. AND as
you
can see now, work was being done, they were not sitting on their hands,
doing nothing. Further, it seems to me as though they had a new type of
class and wanted to be sure of their results.

 now have the proposed reclassification of PV as an 
 H7, metallic-melt breccia (primitive achondrite),
 with the case made for a new meteorite type
 designation of Portalesite due to this metallic-melt
 breccia characteristic.
If this proposed reclassification happens, what does this say about the
original classification?  Was it wrong?  Was it a rush to judgment? Did 
they
not want to take the time out to study it enough to properly classify it
(lazy)?  How could it go from an H6 ordinary chondrite to a Portalesite,
H7, metallic-melt breccia (primitive achondrite) Did it experience a
metamorphous between studies.
I did not call anyone working on it lazy, I asked why the original group
did not make up a new classification for this unique meteorite. Apparently
Alex Ruzicka, Marvin Killgore, David Mittlefehldt, and Marc Fries among
others I am sure, could see this meteorite needed to be studied further 
and
thought it needed to be something more than an H6 ordinary chondrite.
 If this reclassification does happen, I think my question back in March 
of
2004 is a fair and valid question,  why was PV called a H6 ordinary
chondrite?
  Astronomers are always being reprimanded for telling us a killer 
asteroid
is going to strike the Earth next year. They come out and say it before 
they
get all the information and when they finally do get all the information,
they look bad for jumping the gun.  A scientist came out and said PV was 
an
H6 ordinary chondrite. Now it looks like all the info might be in and
someone had jumped the gun. Do these two branches of science have to play 
by
the same rules, find out all the info before you talk?


Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier 
- Original Message -
From: Bob Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tom Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Woolard
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Portales Valley Classification Info

Tom ,
I don't believe you were ever chided for questioning the need for
reclassifying, I believe the problem stemmed from your derogatory remarks
about those working (or not working, lazy, as you assert), on PV. AND as
you
can see now, work was being done, they were not sitting on their hands,
doing nothing. Further, it seems to me as though they had a new type of
class and wanted to be sure of their results.
That PV was not an ordinary H6 is not an opinion that was yours alone, 
and
you were part of a vast majority. Instead of patting yourself on the 
back,
why don't you apologize for your derisive insinuations about those who
have
put much time and effort into the study of PV.
Bob Holmes
- Original Message -
From: Tom Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Robert Woolard [EMAIL PROTECTED];
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Portales Valley Classification Info
 Hi List, back in March of 2004, I made a lot of enemies on the list for
 asking;

  I have to ask, was Portales Valley classified as a H6 ordinary
 chondrite because they were to lazy to make up a new classification?
It
 would seem to me that this unique meteorite deserves it's own group
 instead
 of being shoved into an already existing group.
 I do not feel like we have found every type of meteorite yet, are they
 going do this with all of them, just sticking them in existing
categories,
 or will they make a new one if need be?

 I was called everything from an idiot to a stupid mother $#*^#  by a
lot
 of
 people on the list for questioning the classification. I was put in my
 place, never question the scientists, if they said it was a H6 ordinary
 chondrite, then it was!

 Just thought it was interesting . : )


 Thanks, Tom
 peregrineflier 

 - Original Message -
 From: Robert

Re: [meteorite-list] Farmer signed

2005-05-03 Thread Bob Holmes
Matteo-
Please respond to Christian's post that he bought the piece from 
meteorite2001 and that was you.

Bob

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From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Farmer signed


I hope Art remove you from the list, you have broken
to many and its write in your blog what the people say
of you.
--- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha
scritto:
Oh my, I am now being denounced to the Venice police
by their favorite
village idiot, Matteo.
This certainly fightens me...
Art, wasnt this guy removed from this list?
Mike Farmer
- Original Message - 
From: M come Meteorite Meteorites
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Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:16 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Farmer signed

 Vi informo che domani andrò presso la Polizia di
Stato
 a fare denuncia contro M.Farmer, dopo le ennesime
 minacce inviatemi via email privata poco fa.
Farmer
 sei avvisato, non mettere piede a Venezia o avrai
 brutte sorprese.

 and who want translate

 I inform yourselves that tomorrow I go press the
 Police of State to denunciation against M. Farmer,
 after the umpteenth threats sent via private email
 little does.  Farmer you are informed, not put a
foot
 here in Venice or will have ugly surprises.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Farmer signed

2005-05-03 Thread Bob Holmes
I must have missed your answer. Was it you he bought the piece from?
Bob
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From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Farmer signed


I have been answer, for me this discussion is close
Matteo
--- Bob Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
Matteo-
Please respond to Christian's post that he bought
the piece from
meteorite2001 and that was you.
Bob

- Original Message - 
From: M come Meteorite Meteorites
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED];
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Farmer signed

I hope Art remove you from the list, you have
broken
 to many and its write in your blog what the people
say
 of you.


 --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ha
 scritto:
 Oh my, I am now being denounced to the Venice
police
 by their favorite
 village idiot, Matteo.
 This certainly fightens me...
 Art, wasnt this guy removed from this list?
 Mike Farmer
 - Original Message - 
 From: M come Meteorite Meteorites
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:16 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Farmer signed


  Vi informo che domani andrò presso la Polizia
di
 Stato
  a fare denuncia contro M.Farmer, dopo le
ennesime
  minacce inviatemi via email privata poco fa.
 Farmer
  sei avvisato, non mettere piede a Venezia o
avrai
  brutte sorprese.
 
  and who want translate
 
  I inform yourselves that tomorrow I go press
the
  Police of State to denunciation against M.
Farmer,
  after the umpteenth threats sent via private
email
  little does.  Farmer you are informed, not put
a
 foot
  here in Venice or will have ugly surprises.
 
  M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato
  Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA,
 ITALY
  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Tucson wins!!

2005-03-24 Thread Bob Holmes
For me it is a HUGE topic right now. How 'bout those 'Cats?!
Beardown Bob
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Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:23 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: Tucson wins!!


It wasn't pretty, but...Whew!  What a game!  Your local meteorite 
basketball team is off to the Elite 8!!!  Hope Norman wagered on the 
right team.

Dave Vitale (Baby!)
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Re: [meteorite-list] Hualapai Wash 003

2005-03-01 Thread Bob Holmes
Hello All-
Although I do not have a TKW for HW003, I have a link to a page that may be 
of interest to any one wanting a little more info on the Hualapai 
submissions.
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/2352.pdf
Bob

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hualapai Wash 003


Can anyone tell me the TKW for Hualapai Wash 003?
If Donald O'Keeffe is out there, he should be able to
tell us because he is the finder of Hualapai Wash 003.
Best wishes,
Bernd
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Re: [meteorite-list] Hualapai Wash 003

2005-03-01 Thread Bob Holmes
John and List,
I don't believe that any HW meteorite other than 001 (referred to at that 
time only as Hualapai Wash), was ever recognized by any one other than the 
submitter. Eventually, there is one accepted HW, simply called Hualapai Wash 
(no numerical suffix). I do believe that the NomComm has simply lumped all 
the other HW mets into a single group they called Gold Basin Area 
meteorites. Their assertion was that all these samples came from the same 
(very large), heterogeneous stone.

It is my contention that even the sample that was ultimately recognized as a 
separate meteorite and given a unique name is part of this same, massive 
Gold Basin stone. But that's my opinion.

Take care,
Bob
- Original Message - 
From: JKGwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bob Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hualapai Wash 003


Bob,
Thanks for the link concerning Hualapai Wash and Gold Basin.
There has been a lot of behind the scenes talk about this issue over the 
past four or five years.  Some thought that it was incredible that there 
would be twenty (20) different Hualapai Wash meteorites in addition to the 
original Gold Basin find. The idea that the Gold Basin meteoroid was a 
heterogeneous mass appears to have some merit now.  This just goes to show 
what good science can do.

Do you suppose that this will require the renaming of Hualapai 001 - 020?
Best,
John Gwilliam
At 09:14 AM 3/1/2005, Bob Holmes wrote:
Hello All-
Although I do not have a TKW for HW003, I have a link to a page that may 
be of interest to any one wanting a little more info on the Hualapai 
submissions.
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/2352.pdf
Bob

- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hualapai Wash 003

Can anyone tell me the TKW for Hualapai Wash 003?
If Donald O'Keeffe is out there, he should be able to
tell us because he is the finder of Hualapai Wash 003.
Best wishes,
Bernd
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Re: [meteorite-list] CNN clip

2005-02-12 Thread Bob Holmes
Real nice job, Mike. You sounded good and looked good. Keep up the good 
work!
Bob

- Original Message - 
From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 10:23 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] CNN clip


Art Jones was nice enough to send me the clip which can be viewed on any 
windows media player that is new.
http://www.blurtheline.com/movies/mike_farmer_CNN_segment.wmv

Above is the link, and be sure to thank Art for letting everyone see it in 
other countries.
Mike Farmer
That was my room in Tucson, pretty nice display this year.
Jim Strope and Eric Olsen are seen, as well as my wife playing with my 
Portales Valley piece.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Please edit messages

2005-01-04 Thread Bob Holmes
Thomas and All-
I agree. With top posting there is no need for editing. If a review of the 
last message is desired, it is very quick to scroll down a few lines. If no 
such review is needed, top posting is all the quicker.
Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Please edit messages


Sterling and list,
I actually think it is better to have the most recent
message at the top as the most pertinent information
for that post would be what you see first.  If you
didn't see the earlier posts then you can scroll down
to read them.
Thomas H. Webb
--- Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Darren Garrison wrote:
 Top posting is generally looked on rather
negatively.
I never thought about there being any existing
protocol (i.e., my ignorance),
but I use Netscape for mail and have for about eight
years. In Netscape, top
posting is the default setting for replies. I just
used it as it came.
What about other mail programs?
Sterling K. Webb
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show, Party, Harvey Awards, Venue, etc.

2004-12-16 Thread Bob Holmes
Hi Geoff and All-
I am all in favor of Geoff's decision to move. The event has certainly 
outgrown La Fuenta, and the accommodations at the Arizona Plaza should suit 
your (and everyone else's), needs just fine. I look forward to seeing you 
all down in Tucson.
Bob


- Original Message - 
From: Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 1:09 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show, Party, Harvey Awards, Venue, etc.


Dear Listees:
Greetings from sunny Tucson where it is a pleasant 61 degrees.
I have today spoken with the manager of the Arizona Plaza (formerly the 
Vagabond Inn; formerly the Ramada Inn University) in Tucson, and he has 
confirmed that they WILL be open during the 2005 Tucson show, although the 
long-term future of the hotel in uncertain. Show veterans will know this 
hotel well, as it's been the home of Blaine Reed Meteorites for many 
years. Thanks to Bill Mason for letting us know about this.

Accommodation is available in the $100/night range, so if any of you are 
having trouble finding rooms, this might be a good solution. It's a bit 
pricey, but so are all hotels during showtime. The Arizona Plaza is very 
well located for show events, and is definitely a fun place to stay. 
Contact me off-List if you need booking info.

Regarding the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem Birthday Bash and Harvey Awards:
As previously posted, we will not be holding the 2005 party at the La 
Fuente restaurant, which has been its home for the past three years. As we 
now regularly have well over 100 guests, organizing a dinner at La Fuente, 
or any restaurant, is problematic at best. Every year, some of our guests 
have been unhappy with the food service; there were problems with 
customers' checks, etc., and we don't want to deal with that any more. My 
co-host Steve Arnold IMB and I are, therefore, planning on moving away 
from a sit-down dinner situation to a more informal/fun/social event with 
bar service. To that end we are considering holding the 2005 party and 
Harvey Awards ceremony in either the lounge bar or the ballroom of the 
Arizona Plaza.

The event will take place on the evening of Friday, Feb. 4, 2005. On the 
same night -- at 7 pm -- our good friends at AAPS ( the Association of 
Applied Paleontological Sciences  http://www.aaps.net  ) will be holding 
their annual charity auction and dinner in the adjacent Mineral and Fossil 
Co-op. Many folks would like to attend the auction AND the party, so we 
are considering having a slightly later start for the party (with the 
Harveys presented around 9 pm) so that those who wish to have dinner with 
AAPS can do so, and then walk next door for the Harvey Awards. Dinner at 
the AAPS event will be catered by fine Italian restaurant The Barefoot 
Contessa, and is available to non-AAPS members for a very reasonable fee 
(reservations are requested). It's likely to be an excellent dinner and is 
always a most enjoyable event.

Sorry for the overly-detailed post. I mention all of this here because I'd 
like to get some feedback from those planning on attending the party. Does 
this sound like a good solution? I'd appreciate some on-List comments, 
especially from those of you who have attended the party and Harvey Awards 
in the past.

We're trying to put together something that will work for everyone!
It's less than six weeks to showtime, and we are looking forward to seeing 
many of you here soon.

Thanks and regards to all,
Geoff N.
www.notkin.net
www.paleozoic.org
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Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive hobby??

2004-12-09 Thread Bob Holmes
I don't believe finding Calcalong Creek cost him a whole lot.
- Original Message - 
From: Bernhard Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
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Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive hobby??

Girlfriends (for a married man).
--
Liebe Grüße/best regards
Bernhard Rems - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Am Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:18:41 -0800 (PST), schrieb Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!:
Hi list, and goodafternoon.I had a discussion with someone at work
today about,What is the most expensive hobby.Well I said, There can
be no doubt it is meteorite collecting.Well than she said, it is
obvious that you do not know your expensive hobbies.She started
rattling off things about horses and motor cycles.I said you are
nuts.I explained to her about bob haag finding calcalong creek.Her
mouth stopped and she went silent.So I put it you, the meteorite
hobbyist.What do you think is the most expensive hobby
is?Questions, comments,critisims, rebuttles, are welcome.Let me
know your thoughts.I think it is an interesting question.
steve arnold, chicago, usa!!
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[meteorite-list] Re: Which came closest?

2004-10-15 Thread Bob Holmes
Hello All-
The El Mirage meteorite was found about 4 miles from where I now live. It
was found 'out in the desert' in 1972. That desert is now covered with
houses. Very sad to see the desert go away so quickly.
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[meteorite-list] AD: meteorites on ebay

2004-09-07 Thread Bob Holmes
Hi All,
I have an item on ebay ending tonight, a real nice impact melt, NWA 1711.
The TKW is only 450g and this is the last big piece of it. The pictures are
old, but I can send newer ones to anyone interested. Thanks for looking.

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[meteorite-list] Article in Arizona Highways

2004-07-19 Thread Bob Holmes
Hello All-
For those who care to take a look, this month's Arizona Highways magazine
has a nice little article about Meteor Crater.
Bob


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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Norton book burning/giveaway

2004-03-09 Thread Bob Holmes



Randy, Geoff, and Dave,
I could not agree with you more. I found no humor 
in this post, in fact I found it most offensive. The reason for such a post 
escapes me, but this is not the first post by Tom K that has me wondering why it 
was even sent! 
Bob Holmes

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Randy 
  Mils 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 6:56 
PM
  Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Re: Norton 
  book burning/giveaway
  
  
  
  Geoff:
  You don't understand the original post? I guess you haven't been 
  paying attention to previous postings by this individual. It is just 
  another lame attempt to be cute. EG: "Look at me! I'm still here!"
  Don't you remember the thread about the value of him being hit by a 
  meteorite? I know the valueless wasted 
  bandwidth.Randy
  From: Notkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Norton book burning/giveaway 
  [trying again] 
  Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 17:55:54 -0700 
   
  Dear Listees: 
   
  My previous post came through with HTML tags included, for some 

  reason. Sorry about that. Am re-sending. 
   
   
  *** 
   
   
  Tom posted: 
   
  "So in conclusion, Richard Norton must have 
  been lazy and did not 
  do any research before writing these books! My suggestion, 
  A big 
  Norton book burning, the books are wrong and if you quote 
  them, you 
  will get nasty emails too!" 
   
  Tom, I don't understand your post. 
   
  First you quote some harsh (and almost certainly false) 
  criticisms 
  about Richard Norton's work, and then go on to say you don't 
  agree 
  with them, and are going to keep Richard's books after all. Do 
  you 
  realize that your comments go into the Meteorite List archives 
  permanently, where anyone can read them? What is your purpose 
  in 
  posting this material? I doubt it's news to anyone that there 
  is 
  occasionally an incorrect or apocryphal piece of information 
  even in 
  the best-researched book, and that widely-accepted facts can 
  sometimes later be shown to be inaccurate (look at the debate 
  regarding the authenticity of the "Nakhla dog." 
   
  Richard and Dorothy Norton are among the most well-liked and 
  respected people in the meteorite field, so why would you want 
  to 
  post comments like these -- whether you said them or not? Many 
  collectors became part of the meteorite collecting world 
  specifically because of the Nortons' book "Rocks from Space"; 
  In 
  addition, Richard's articles are widely and regularly 
  published; 
  Dorothy and Richard are both Harvey Award winners; and many 
  List 
  members (including myself) regard them as friends. 
   
  I don't understand why you would send a post to the M-List with 

  "Norton book burning" in the title. Please explain. 
   
  Geoff N. 
  www.paleozoic.org 
   
   
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Re: [meteorite-list] he is at it again privately

2004-02-18 Thread Bob Holmes
Steve, It is very simple. You don't open his messages, you do not reply to
his messages and USE YOUR DELETE KEY. He will stop eventually. By posting to
the list about it, you are fueling the fire!
Bob Holmes

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 5:49 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] he is at it again privately


 Hello list.I need to put an end to his crap once and for all.I am now
 being harrassed from MATTEO CHINALETTO privately.I have even blocked his
 emails to me, but he is doing it thru EBAY.Can someone please help me as
 what to do?I do not need this crap from him.I do not want to start
 anything that has already not been started.I want to lose him
 forever.HELP

STEVE ARNOLD, CHICAGO!

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 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
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Re: [meteorite-list] More Info, Franconia Meteorite

2004-02-11 Thread Bob Holmes



Hi All,
I have several slices of Franconia, one of which is 
on my website.You can view it at http://www.meteoritebiz.com/franconia-az.html 
Also, please note that Franconia is still just a provisional name. I'm hoping it 
will be announced in the next MetBull
Best regards,
Bob Holmes



From: Arizona Keith 

  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 10:31 
  AM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] More Info, 
  Franconia Meteorite
  
  Hello List
  
  I got a few emails asking for more infoaboutthe Franconia, 
  It's in Northwestern Arizona, Franconia is an abandon R/R stop, not a city, 
  but is the name forexit 13on I-40,35 miles west of Kingman 
  Arizona, 13 miles east of the Colorado river and California Border. About 100 
  miles south of Gold Basin area.
  The land is BLM and part wilderness area, It's averylarge 
  area, as large a gold basin, but muchlarge hills and mountains, and 
  ridges of very old lava flows.
  
  Thanks for your time
  
  Keith
  ChandlerAZ
  
  


Re: [meteorite-list] Is there room for a meteorite question ?

2003-12-11 Thread Bob Holmes



I believe that bismuth is also less dense as a 
solid than as a liquid

Bob Holmeswww.meteoritebiz.com



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Howard Wu 
  
  To: Kevin Fly Hill ; meteorite-list 
  Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:55 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is there 
  room for a meteorite question ?
  
  Almost all materials shink when freezing. Water and gallium are the only 
  excepts I know. Both have abnormal melting/freezing pts as well.
  
  Howard Wu


Re: [meteorite-list] Who know the email of this idiot?

2003-11-15 Thread Bob Holmes



The question I have is how Matteo came upon this 
site. He is the one who brought it to the list. Without his 'announcement', I'm 
not sure I ever would have seen it.
Bob Holmeswww.meteoritebiz.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jeff Kuyken 
  To: Meteorite List 
  Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:10 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Who know 
  the email of this idiot?
  
  Must admit it was a bit funny but keep in mind it also 
  breaches Copyright Law and probably cause for defamation.
  
  Jeff
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Steve 
Schoner 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 1:46 
AM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Who know 
the email of this idiot?


To all,

Since having seen this, I too must agree with Chris Sharpe "casper 
@cooloola.net." 

I have not personally met these people, but I only know them through 
communications on the net. This kind of "humor" I think crosses the 
line in my thinking. None of the people represented are "public 
figures"... How they take it depends on them I suppose... They might take it 
lightly and laugh, but then again, the site does not go away, it is there as 
long as one cares to visit... They can even copy it and spread the lampoon 
around... And when does the laughter turn into offense and 
ridicule?

When Chris wrote:

"I just want to say that I was extremely upset at this web site. It 
smacks of bullying and the worst sort of arrogance and is the sort of thing 
that should have been left behind in the schoolyard.Anyone that 
thinks its funny to laugh at other people like this has yet to meet 
maturity..."
It struck a chord in me. It is exactly what I 
feel. But taking the issue of Iraq into this... Humm... we are 
all losing people in that one. We are perhpas at the verge of 
another World War, if so, many more liveswill beat 
stake. In this, I like to keep the "humor" on the politicians, 
rather than nobodies like us.

And when Chris wrote:

"This is an example of why scientists and researchers no longer 
contribute to this list in the manner they used to."

Right, very right. Other than Ron Baalke and a couple of others, 
we have lost the real input from the scientific community that we once 
had.

In this, WE are the joke.

Steve Schoner/ams



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi 
  Matteo, Steve, Tom  ListI just want to say that I was 
  extremely upset at this web site. It smacks of bullying and the worst sort 
  of arrogance and is the sort of thing that should have been left behind in 
  the schoolyard.Anyone that thinks its funny to laugh at other 
  people like this has yet to meet maturity. 27 Italians lie recently dead 
  in Iraq and you scoff at Matteo. Grow up, get some 
  sensitivity.This is an example of why scientists and researchers 
  no longer contribute to this list in the manner they used to.my 
  2cchris sharp Hello all   
  http://www.x-mail.net/proudtom/index.html   If any of you 
  know this idiot please give to me the  all informations, I us task 
  to make to pass it us  wants to laugh.  regards  
   Matteo=  M come Meteorite 
  - Matteo Chinellato  Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, 
  VENEZIA, ITALY  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sale 
  Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: 
  http://www.mcomemeteorite.info  International Meteorite Collectors 
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Re: [meteorite-list] RUSSELL GULCH

2003-10-16 Thread Bob Holmes



-Original Message-
From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 July 2003 17:59
To: Ken O'Neill
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] cd rom of meteorites


Hi ken.I just got my cd yesterday.He only had 1, but after I am done with
it, I would be willing to trade it to you for a meteorite.Let me know what
we can do.I do not need to keep this forever.If I can help other people
with it I'll do just that.



- Original Message - 
From: DNAndrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] RUSSELL GULCH




 Michael L Blood wrote:

 Hi Steve,
 Instead of using this list as a reference manual, perhaps you
would
 be interested in investing in one of the following:
 
 1) Catalogue of Meteorites 5th. Ed. - This will tell you EVERYTHING about
 every fall and find to date of publication. This is the OED of
meteorites.
 About $165?
 
 2) Meteorites A to Z - While this is a highly abbreviated version of
 the above, it gives you Type, TKW, date of fall or find, etc.  - I
believe
 it is a mere $20 (a fabulous buy!)
 
 
 On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, Steve Arnold wrote:

 I learned alot this weekend. You all have got to go at least once. Hey I
even got my meteorites a to z book from ann black. Here and the jenson boys
signed it.
 



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Re: [meteorite-list] primm

2003-10-04 Thread Bob Holmes
Didn't YOU just have some for sale on ebay?
Bob Holmes
www.meteoritebiz.com
- Original Message - 
From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 8:40 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] primm


 Hi there list.Does anyone have any primm forsale or trade?
 
   steve arnold
 
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