Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) SIKHOTE-ALIN/CAMPO FORSALE/FREEBIES wow
You made it 5 days Steve. That is a real accomplishment. None of us expected you to make it through the month as you promised on March 5th(see your email below). Next time we need to take up a betting pool. Don Rawlings --- On Wed, 3/5/09, steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com wrote: From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] [meteorite-list] (AD) 4 SIKOTE-ALINS FORSALE To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, March 5, 2009, 5:24 PM Hi list.My last add of the month.Promise!!I have 4 sikhote-alin meteorites available forsale at .70 per gram.They are 50,113,209,and 225 grams= $35,$79.10,$146.30 and $157.50.All come with free shipping anywhere.Pics of all of them.Offlist please. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Reason to go to Tucson pt2
Great Photos Keith. Keem em coming. Don Rawlings --- On Thu, 2/5/09, Arizona Keith arizonake...@cox.net wrote: From: Arizona Keith arizonake...@cox.net Subject: [meteorite-list] Reason to go to Tucson pt2 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 2:21 AM Hello List Weather, Friends, Meteorites and cool stuff. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009a660.jpg Before the show started http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009a128.jpg During http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009a662.jpg Setting up Han's 1430# Campo http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009a180.jpg Unpacking Han's 2 ton Campo http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009c800.jpg Crushed 2 pallets http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009a797.jpg Luc and Alain http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009c739.jpg Alain Carion Old Collection L'Aigle http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009c743.jpg Luc Labenne and His Collection http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009c765.jpg Luc's interesting new meteorite http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009c763.jpg http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009c758.jpg Pani http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009c290.jpg Pani's Unique Howardite http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009c286.jpg Bruno and Carine http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009c850.jpg Bruno's Chassignite http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009c275.jpg Bruno's Cat Skull http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009w1d2cb265.jpg Misc. for around the show http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009c674.jpg http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009c695.jpg http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009a872.jpg http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009w1d291.jpg http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucson2009w1d281.jpg Hope you all enjoy. Keith Chandler AZ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Reasons to go to Tucson
Yeah, With Bush the money would have been spent on bombs to send to Iraq or some other place we have no business turning into killing fields. Don Rawlings --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Howard Wu freewu2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Howard Wu freewu2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Reasons to go to Tucson To: Arizona Keith arizonake...@cox.net, ensoramanda ensorama...@ntlworld.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 4:06 PM Maybe with the new economic stimulus plan they can finnally finish up all that roadwork downtown. --- On Mon, 2/2/09, ensoramanda ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote: Now I'm really regretting going to Tucsonbrrr...took me nearly 2 hours to drive 10 miles today...but at least I made it home. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7865378.stm Graham Ensor ,UK __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - February 1, 2009
How about a video of Chicago Steve in action when he gets there, Michael? Auction and Party too ! Don Rawlings --- On Sun, 2/1/09, Michael Johnson mich...@spacerocksinc.com wrote: From: Michael Johnson mich...@spacerocksinc.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - February 1, 2009 To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009, 6:19 AM http://www.rocksfromspace.org/February_1_2009.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] paypal for cash
I would assume that any dealer with a computer could send you a paypal invoice at the show. But they would have to absorb the paypal fees so cash would be better for you to bargain with. Wouldn't it have been easier for you to just save your money for the show instead of buying meteorites to brag about only to list them immediately on ebay selling them for what you paid for them or even less than you paid? Do you even consider the ebay fees and paypal fees when you do this? Did you ever think of taking your own photos instead of just using the photos of the original seller? I am puzzled by this business model. Anyone can win a race to the bottom Steve. Don Rawlings --- On Thu, 1/29/09, steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com wrote: From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] paypal for cash To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 9:59 AM Hi all.I have a question.Is it easier to just use paypal for buying items in tucson or cash?I know it is the same thing,but I am wondering how easy it is to buy using paypal vs. cash.Would people who have the extra cash be willing to turn paypal money into cash.I need to know. Steve R.Arnold,Chicago! a rel=nofollow target=_blank href=http://chicagometeorites.net/;http://chicagometeorites.net//a __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Good By Bush - the nightmare is over
Hi Val... Thanks for putting me first on your little rant against everyone under the sun. Concerning Palin I am just afraid of uneducated, fundamentalist whackjobs running this country. Don Rawlings --- On Wed, 1/21/09, valpar...@aol.com valpar...@aol.com wrote: From: valpar...@aol.com valpar...@aol.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Good By Bush - the nightmare is over To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 10:46 AM Geez! A feller misses a lot by going to sleep at night. I can answer those concerns with one word.Palin !!! Now that was one scary person to have one heartbeat away from the presidency. S'matter Don? Afraid of powerful, confident women? You think Lyin' Joe 'Logorrhea' Biden is any less scary? If you genuinely think someone was corrupt, incompitent, and VIOLATED THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS--and say so-- that makes you a hater? No, Darren, it makes you an idiot, and a bad speller. The Geneva Convention applies to uniformed combatants operating under the auspices of a State. Al Queeda has neither. Where is the honor in feeding the ducks? What do you have against ducks, Captain Blood? I have 80% of this country, and more like 99% of the world on my side on this one. Mr. Farmer, you're nuts! Bam's percentage of the vote was in the low 50s. The Arabs are all inflamed and calling him the 'house negro', and they count for a lot more than 1%. Hell, probably 20% of the world doesn't even recognize the name Obama. OBAMA could go on a permanent vacation and still do a better job than the Criminal Regime we just go rid of. If only, Howard. What a great day it is. A president that is for us, not for himself! Sonny, you must be under 20 to suffer from this level of naivete. That massive ego trip in Denver for Bam's acceptance speech screamed me! me!! me!!! Having said that, NASA seem, now, to be committed to a return to the moon. I am delighted by that as a citizen of the world. Rob, show some respect. It's Citizen of the World. Be sure to send in your World taxes to do your fair share in supporting all this happy horseshit. If you didn't vote then shut up. If you did vote and your pick didn't win, you have a right to complain, but not on this forum, please. If you voted and your pick did win, then celebrate, but please not on this forum Close, Pete. Try this If you didn't vote then SHUT UP. If you did vote and your pick didn't win, then SHUT UP. If you voted and your pick did win, then SHUT UP. I am just so happy right now! Jeff, see Sonny above. There's a lot to not like about Dubya but his popularity rating is not as low as that of Congress, and we still have those bastards in office. Where is all the fulminating hatred for them? They are the ones that actually allocate and approve the money for everything from wars to welfare to wocket ships to the moon. If they had had any balls, they could have easily reined in the so-caller criminal regime, but nooo. Even for the last 2 years in a Democrat controlled congress they couldn't take any action. Pussies! Before you all start flaming my mailbox about being off-topic, know that this post is about meteorites, i.e., space rocks, or, simply, rocks, which many listees seem to have between their ears. Get over Bush. Get over Obama. Look forward to getting screwed, blewed, and tattooed by the new administration, just like you did by the old one, and the one before that, and the one... Paul Swartz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Obama List ... or...meteoritelist.
did you keep track of who got into this mess? I will clue you in...bush. It will take more than 6 months to clean up an 8 year mess. Steve Schoner wrote: What is this, a bash Bush, praise Obama list? But I will keep track of you Obama supporters and when six months to a year later, be sure to remind you of your praise for the least qualified President in the most critical and perhaps the worst time in our history as a nation. Time will tell how well he stacks up to what everyone seems to expect of him. But for now, lets get back to meteorites. And-- I find the Aziz-Farmer debate rather amusing. But I would really like to know more about that fireball that was spotted here in AZ. At around 4:30 PM on the 19th, I was on my roof shoveling snow off the flat part. I heard a very weird noise seeming to come from the south. A series of sharp cracks, like busting wood. Difficult to describe the sound. It was overcast, and I turned to look in the south direction, but thought that it might have been something related to the railroad. I thought nothing of it till I heard of this sighting. Now I wonder. Has any other reports come in on this explosive bolide. Steve ] Looking for insurance? Click to compare and save big. http://thirdpartyoffers.mybluelight.com/TGL2341/fc/PnY6rzGGUGTltqggRsiRSWoU8L2Lk3m5XDkwZxHOF4JgiTnjJqAmo/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Politics, Obama, The Chicago Machine
I can answer those concerns with one word.Palin !!! Now that was one scary person to have one heartbeat away from the presidency. bill kies wrote: I can't listen to all this starry eyed nonsense. The fact is, we have a new president with no political record or real experience stepping into a job that thankfully will be regulated by our three tiered system of government composed of other fine dedicated public servants with no vested interests, only seeking change, large sums of change, not small change... His Chicago connections don't add to his resume. There isn't anything to say or do but wait and see so please let this subject go. It's interfering with interesting meteorite rants. _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new tamdaught moroccan fall
I am going to go out on a limb here and bet that you trade it off before you even receive it. Anyone out there want to be against me? Don Rawlings --- On Sun, 1/18/09, steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com wrote: From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] new tamdaught moroccan fall To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 7:08 PM Good evening list.For those of you who cannot wait to get a piece of the new moroccan fall,tamdaught,phillpe thomas has some fragments on ebay right now.I just bought a 24 gram fragment.It looks very fresh!I hope to get mine before tucson.I will bring it with me for show.It looks great. Steve R.Arnold,Chicago! a rel=nofollow target=_blank href=http://chicagometeorites.net/;http://chicagometeorites.net//a __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
Good Points Martin. I can not wait to see photos of the area where this meteorite fell. The Atlas Mountans sound like an exotic location for a new fall. Don Rawlings --- On Sat, 1/17/09, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 7:45 AM humhem, don't want to sound cheekily, but the fall of a new meteorite is a joyful event and not a calamity or a disgrace.. Isn't it? Well, can't understand the public poison in that debate about the new fall, just a little patience and then we'll see, what had happened, what has been found ect. Meanwhile some boring sentimentalities.:-) When I was a little boy, buying my first meteorite, there existed 2000 finds, 1000 falls, 90% of them locked away in institutions, and at the best available in single micro-bogey-sized crumbs. I noticed the Calcalong sensation, I saw DaG 400 and 262 arriving, asking prices of a quarter of a million per gram. Whenever I pointed my telescope to the Moon, I dreamt of holding a stone from up there in my hands, like those white men on the iconostasis of space flight. Mars I observed of course too, but never it came to my mind, that a stone from there would have made it to Earth, cause Zagami had on his label still standing: eucrite. Today I handle main masses of Moon and Mars. And Mars and Moon are ours. We even earn money with them (even dicing it in little pieces, making little Martin's old dream come true for thousands of people). I got in my hands types and stones, which I never could get in my possession on the classical names sector, simply because they would not be affordable or available or in some cases, simply because such stones where not known so far. Yah, it costs us endless work, nerves, health, sometimes frustration, personal and financial risks, also skills in recognizing and experience are needed, but in the final consequence, were it we, who picked up the suspicious stone in desert? This year we will reach NWA-number 6000. Twice as much finds as meteorites in total from the 2000 years before existed, when I started. The rarest types became readily available to the collectors and science and so low rates were asked as unseen in the 200 years of meteorite trade before. It may sound unwelcomely to the classic/conservative collectors, but aside Antarctica, in meteoritics of the last two decades, the progress of the subject and planetology, the most recoveries by number and importance were made in research on the hot desert finds, where NWAs outnumber all other desert finds together. These NWAs were not found by scientific expeditions and campaigns, they were hunted and brought to light by the people of these NWA-countries and channelled through Morocco. The meteorite community - private collectors and professional scientists - profited on the work of the Moroccans. The structures in Morocco grew in a different way, as we used to see from professional meteorite hunters or scientific hunts. In turn for this deficiency, the collectors, universities and museums don't have to pay anymore 500 or 2000$ a gram for a howardite, but 5-40$, not 1000$ for a bencubbinite, but 50$ or less, not 800-1200$ for an Acapulcoite, but 50$ and so on and not anymore 1000$++/g for a H5 W3 recovered in Antarctica - and they have such a choice of exotic and unique stones, they never would have dreamt of. And in many respects resemble the NWAs the Antarctic finds, which have lost due the migration of the ice all there strewnfield information, the information about break-up and fall angle and the original weight of the fall and which are numbered in the field, pairings put together later in the lab. And if there one can find other business standards and maybe here and there a lousy ethics and if Morocco is shark-tank, so what? The collector hasn't to care for, as long as there are people working as a buffer, taking all risks on their shoulders. El Hammami, Zag, Bensour, Amgala, Bensour, Benguerir, Oum Dreyga, Chergach, Bassikounou They were the cheapest observed falls of their times and btw. in history (e.g. 15 years after the 2 tons fall of Pultusk, the average price on the world market was 7.4$/g - and it was the cheapest stone meteorite of its time, the Gao, the NWA 869 of the 19th century). They yielded excellent to fantastic stones, which a collector couldn't get hold of with the other falls, simply because they produced not such stones or they were very expensive. Let's see, what this fall will bring and let's don't forget the other side of the medal, what for an immense contribution and enrichment the finds and falls from this corner of the world meant to the World of meteorites. Have a nice and peaceful weekend! Martin __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Progress or ruination?
Typical Corporate greed. No different than here in the US. Have you ever seen an arial view of the Yellowstone - Idaho border? Clear cut right up to the National Park border. Only 10 more days until we get rid of the criminal regime in America and maybe some things can change a little. Don Rawlings --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Progress or ruination? To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, michael_w_gil...@yahoo.com Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 11:04 AM Sad, I was there on top of that rock a few years ago. San Pedro de Atacama is a fantastic town, a little like the wild west, with dirt streets, no water (all water is trucked in) and dodgy looking people. I had more fun there than can be explained. To have Hollywood types jetting down there to stay in a spa just sucks in my opinion. The geysers were amazing, typical that man would destroy them to make more money mining. Oh well. Michael Farmer --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Michael Gilmer michael_w_gil...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Gilmer michael_w_gil...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Progress or ruination? To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 8:57 AM I have mixed feelings about this story : http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1642444_1870349_1870342,00.html I guess we'll be dodging errant golfballs and hearing cell phones ring while walking around one of the more remote places on the Earth. :( I wonder if any of these wealthy tourists realize they are visiting a famous strewnfield? Regards and clear skies, MikeG . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] seeing if I can send email
All these tests are worse than the spam I get from nigerian scammers. Don Rawlings --- On Thu, 12/25/08, Pete Shugar pshu...@clearwire.net wrote: From: Pete Shugar pshu...@clearwire.net Subject: [meteorite-list] seeing if I can send email To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 11:20 PM I just can't figure out what went wrong. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Most important person in modern meteorites
Steve Arnold of Chicago. Always thinking of his fellow collectors and friends and not obsessed with self-promotion like some other people involved in this hobby. Don Rawlings --- On Thu, 12/25/08, Harry aeromadn...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Harry aeromadn...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Most important person in modern meteorites To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 7:30 PM There are many names out there, but who in your mind is the most important name in meteorites __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD Pricing Feedback
I see lots of stuff selling on eBay, do a search on completed auctions. Over priced specimens (and I am not saying these are) will always go begging for buyers. Don Rawlings --- On Wed, 12/24/08, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD Pricing Feedback To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, cyna...@charter.net Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 11:34 AM That is the problem, I think people are with family, I drove to Montana in blizzards, lucky to have made it here, snowing right now, supposed to snow all night and all day tomorrow. I am only 20 miles from the Canadian border. Economy in the tank and everyone on hold I think. Michael Farmer --- On Wed, 12/24/08, Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote: From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD Pricing Feedback To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 9:08 AM On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:02:19 -0600 (GMT-06:00), you wrote: Hello All, I am just wondering, since I have not received any replies what so ever, would anyone care to share their thoughts or suggestions regarding the prices that I have set on my collection pieces? I believe they are fairly reasonable for the quality at hand here, but perhaps I am mistaken. I'm just trying to figure this out. And no Steve, I cannot list these as give aways (aka freebies). Maybe 1.) people are spent out because of Christmas and 2.) people are spent out because of global economic collapse. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Paperweights
Been there, done that.. http://www.universecollection.com/product_detail.asp?CategoryID=3SubCategoryID=51ProductID=685 Don Rawlings --- On Wed, 12/24/08, meteorh...@aol.com meteorh...@aol.com wrote: From: meteorh...@aol.com meteorh...@aol.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Paperweights To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 4:22 PM Hey List, Does anyone here have experience encasing meteorites in clear resin, paperweight style? If so, could you contact me off the list? Thanks, Steve Arnold #1 **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lone Rock / Buzzard Coulee Sold Out
Or maybe not so bad luck if the predictions that we read recently about thousands of pieces on the ground waiting to be picked up. I predict that this fall will follow the same pattern as nearly all falls. High prices in the beginning followed by lower prices for those who are willing to wait. Don Rawlings --- On Tue, 12/23/08, McCartney Taylor mccart...@blackbearddata.com wrote: From: McCartney Taylor mccart...@blackbearddata.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Lone Rock / Buzzard Coulee Sold Out To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 4:53 PM All of our material has been sold. None made it to the US. To those who wanted to wait...bad luck. -mt IMCA 2760 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad- Monnig, Aml and other goodies just in time for xmas
I doubt that it would be legal to exclude anyone from bidding on your items in a public auction. I guess we will see how that one works out soon enough. Don Rawlings --- On Mon, 12/15/08, impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com wrote: From: impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad- Monnig, Aml and other goodies just in time for xmas To: bobe5...@comcast.net, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 4:35 PM Hello List-Members, On my behalf: Bob, if you are planning to go to Tucson, you will not be welcomed in my room. And if you are planning on going to Michael Blood's auction, I will ask Michael to block you from bidding on any of the 40 pieces I have entered in that auction. I do not wish to sell anything to you. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bonhams auction bomb
But, but,,, I thought dealers were asking too low prices? That is what I read earlier on this list. I guess collectors should take not who argues for high prices and who argues for realistic prices. Note to self. reread earlier posts today and take notes. Don Rawlings --- On Sun, 12/7/08, Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Bonhams auction bomb To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 3:39 PM Looks like the meteorites in the auction did pretty poorly overall. My stuff was just about given away. A piece of Udei Station, fall, silicated iron, sold for $2.00 gram! I was going to bid in person, but cancelled the trip due to illness. Man, this sucks. Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad New Canadian Meteorite for sale
Unfortunately, a 2 gram piece for $100- today will probably sell on ebay for $10- next August. That is my prediction. Don Rawlings --- On Sat, 12/6/08, Don Merchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Don Merchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad New Canadian Meteorite for sale To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Don Merchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 2:58 AM I wanted to add my 2 cents to this..well actually my $50.00 to this post for the new Canadian Meteorite for Sale. One of the must categories I like to a collect in my collection are Recent or New Witnessed Falls, even if their not Hammers. A Meteorite being New /Recent/Witnessed and sharing the World Major News Stories carries a more desire for me to want a part of that history!! So with that said if anyone comes across a 1 gm or 2 gm piece or can relay this email to a reputable source willing to sell this meteorite to me for $50 a gm for 1 to 2 grams, have them please contact me ASAP. I will make an official request for this meteorite here and now. My feeling is that this offer will not be accepted anytime soon. Why? Because when something new comes along it seems the price is usually put higher then it should be at first regardless of it's composition. Yes you will get buyers willing at any cost to have a piece and there's nothing wrong with sellers/dealers making a few bucks for the work/efforts involved, I understand and accept this. But... to control the price the true power is in the Buyers. If the Buyers don't buy at that set price then eventually it is lowered until Buyers will buy. There really is truth in the power of numbers, meaning if all us collectors stick together and do not buy, the price will eventually come down. A dealer can say well heck with it I'll keep it in my collection but...sooner then later that dealer will have a big collection and no revenue which will eventually lead to a real IMPACT financially that the dealer wants no part of, especially in his/her collection! So I'm not gonna save face here.. lol I am a collector with a love for this hobby and weakness for this hobby. I figure if I can get this meteorite for $50 a gm now, I would be saving money instead of my passion for meteorites corrupting my common sense to hold off until prices drop. I always seem to allow my self to get lured in like a B-ass because I'm weak, I need it, I want it, I can't wait lol! I know many of you out there feel my PAIN!! So.I have $100 set aside for a 2 gm. piece for the first legit seller to contact me for the exchange! I will keep all of you posted on this offer and how long it takes! By the way I meant no offence in this email to ANY Collector, Seller or Dealer in any way shape or form, I can only say just get that 2 gm. piece to me NOW!! lol Sincerely Don Merchant IMCA #0960 - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad New Canadian Meteorite for sale I am not sure the discussion really centers on their asking price of $50.00 gram. It sort of morphed from Canadian Government buying price to retail price, to initial price etc. Someone suggested a piece be sold on eBay to set the price. Well, that was done with Cali and Puerto Lapice, and the price was very high. But eBay will never set a price. Show me 50 Sikhote-Alin auctions and I will show you 50 different gram prices for Sikhote-Alin. My part in this is simply to sort of separate why some recent falls set record prices, and others seem to be down to earth, and where the Canada fall will likely end up. I sure do hope there is a lot, I want to find some and sell some and buy some, and the more material, the better for all. Canada can be happy, there will be room for both scientists and collectors to get their fill. Michael Farmer --- On Fri, 12/5/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad New Canadian Meteorite for sale To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 7:32 PM All, I agree that this probably will sell for much lower in the future...well at least I hope Supply and Demand will allow the prices to come down later because a lot of it to comes on the market. But we should keep something else in mind here: I don't know how much TKW Sonny and McCartney personally found on their trip, but it is entirely possible that they simply don't want to sell much if any. Maybe they are thinking Hey, if someone wants these bad enough, we will let them go. If no one wants them bad enough, they might just be happy to retain the ownership for the long haul. If they hold
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day My thoughts
Take a look through the archives on Michael's site and you may find that there are a lot of postings that correspond to sales. Maybe a line should be drawn somewhere on this taking advantage of Michael. Don Rawlings --- On Wed, 11/26/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day My thoughts To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 1:52 PM I agree, Michael does us all a favor nearly every day. My suggestion is that we all ask our selves when we make a submission to Michael for inclusion in his site: Is our submission just to share with all or are we promoting material we may have for sale? If we are using his service as an advertisement then send some $ his way. I have talked to Michael and he is not doing the POD for profit, but there are ongoing costs to maintaining a site with the large amount of images he hosts. I have a large image Gallery of micrographs. I am lucky that Meteorite Times is the host of it. If I had to maintain it and pay for the cost of keeping it free and available to every one, I would of closed it down long ago. Paul (Meteorite Times) puts in a huge amount of work into the updates and maintenance of my Gallery and I am sure Michael has just as much work maintaining his site. I am in no way speaking for any one!!! These are just my thoughts on the subject. Tom Phillips In a message dated 11/26/2008 10:46:47 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you again Michael. I think that more folks on the list would like to help you continue to roll out this daily service. If they visit your site they'll become aware that you do this on your own and barely hint that a small donation will help. That and a continuous input by them of their favorites to feed the process all helps to produce our daily fix. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Michael Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 12:00 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - November 26,2008 http://www.spacerocksinc.com/November_26_2008.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] So any definitive word on Rocks From Space POD and Micha...
That is great news Jason. I was afraid that he just got tired of being used as an advertising outlet for dealer sales and high dollar auction houses. Don Rawlings --- On Mon, 11/10/08, Jason Utas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jason Utas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] So any definitive word on Rocks From Space POD and Micha... To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 1:42 PM Hola All, I spoke with him a few days ago, and he said he was hoping to get the website back up soon. As to why he's disappeared so completely from the list, I can't say, but he's alive and well out there, so I wouldn't worry too much. Regards, Jason On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike, You didn't miss it as far as I know. We all are wondering. The RFS Calendar is down as well. Tom In a message dated 11/10/2008 10:49:23 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi folks, Please forgive me if the answer to this has already been posted and I missed it. Did anyone ever find out what happened to Michael Johnson and his Rocks from Space Picture of the Day? Regards, MikeG . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites that can't get any, Casper the frendly theif, and a deeply stupid article
Just consider the source of the meteorite section of this articleMichael Casper. To quote a comic book hero...nuff said Don Rawlings --- On Wed, 10/22/08, Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites that can't get any, Casper the frendly theif, and a deeply stupid article To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 12:37 PM http://www.forbes.com/markets/2008/10/21/comic-book-bubbles-markets-bubbles08-cx_ds_1021tiny.html Tyrannosaurs And Superheroes David Serchuk, 10.21.08, 6:00 PM ET The meteorite market has crashed to Earth, and will never reach the heights again. In the late 1990s, during the great meteorite bubble, a gram of material from the Martian Zagami meteorite could go for $2,000. Today it fetches $200. The Christy's auction house sold a tenth of a gram of lunar rock for several hundred thousand dollars. Today lunar material fetches $400 a gram. What happened? What always seems to happen in a bubble: Demand lead to speculative hoarding, which lead to oversupply, which lead to a crash. The meteorite craze started in 1997, when European prospectors in the Sahara found meteorites that, due to the dry climate, were practically virgin. At first, the stones traded among just a few hands, but soon mania spread. Before long, it began to display the usual signs of a bubble, including people sitting on collections instead of selling them. That lead to what was once inconceivable: a meteorite glut. By 2001 everybody and their grandmother was in the Sahara, says meteorite dealer and appraiser Michael Casper. Nomadic tribesmen started dealing the rocks, and over a million grams of once scarce material flooded the market. That same year the craze imploded, and it hasn't returned. In Pictures: Tiny Bubbles From Baseball Cards To Beanie Babies A similar bubble occurred at roughly the same time in the fossil market. Through the late '90s, animal fossils appreciated in price, fueled by novelty and the plentiful money coming out of the tech bubble. The signal event of this craze was Sotheby's (nyse: BID - news - people ) 1997 sale of renowned T. rex skeleton Sue for $8.4 million. It was a surprising peak, says Peter Larson, paleontologist and president of the Black Hills Institute. It brought eight times more than I thought. Fossil-mania ran wild. Hollywood players like Nicholas Cage, Ron Howard and Leonardo DiCaprio maintained collections. Another T. rex, named Barnum, was bought by a team of investors who paid over $1 million dollars, hoping to flip the fossil. It eventually sold in 2006, for just $190,000. The bubble began to deflate when would-be flippers realized that fossil-hunting wasn't easy labor. So much work and expertise needs to go into this, says Larson. It's not the same thing as picking up a meteorite, or a coin. Most of the price (for a fossil) is in the labor. Unlike in the meteorite crash, the higher end of the fossil world has held value, even if it's not commanding the prices of the bubble's peak. People still want to put their money into something real that will maintain its value, says Larson. Rice, corn and trilobites will always have some value. One of the hallmarks of a bubble is that dealers find many different ways to market and resell a single product. Take the comic book boom that started in the mid-1980s. Comic book publishers would come to produce variant covers of the same issue, inciting collectors to buy the same product multiple times. Collectors then hoarded the books, ensuring a glut. Much like repackaged mortgages, buyers found that a different cover on the same product was no indication of safety, quality or long-term desirability. Throughout the late '80s, and into the early '90s, the bubble grew higher, says Joseph Koch, a partner in New York City-based comic book store Forbidden Planet. There were far too many books for too few customers, he says. Dealers would buy cases of comic books for $2000, and only sell a few of the comics, holding onto the rest in hopes they'd go up in value. Like over-leveraged banks, dealers even went into hock with their distributors to buy more cases. Eventually it all backfired. Things came to a head during what is known in the comics biz as Black April, in 1993. A number of different comics companies released heavily hyped books all at the same time, including Tribe, The Return of Superman and Turok. Customers initially lined up to buy, and values rose, but something went wrong. The problem, Koch says, was that collectors realized they didn't own anything valuable, because there was no scarcity. It turned out that people had been buying comics by the case, and feeding them out slowly, but there were more copies than people realized, he says. The backlash was widespread. Stores went
Re: [meteorite-list] Tangible assets
I guess I will consider the source on that one. FAUX newz? Don Rawlings --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tangible assets To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 2:01 AM On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:48:12 -0500, you wrote: As rare as they are, the intrinsic value is only as great as the number of people that place a great esoteric value in them. That number dwindles when mortgages and savings crash. Reminds me of an article on the stock market from yesterday: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,436435,00.html It's in people's minds, Shiller explains. We're just recording a measure of what people think the stock market is worth. What the people who are willing to trade today — who are very, very few people — are actually trading at. So we're just extrapolating that and thinking, well, maybe that's what everyone thinks it's worth. Works the same way for meteorites, I'd say. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Thank You Steve Arnold
Probably the one from Chicago who gives meteorites away. Don Rawlings --- On Sun, 9/28/08, al mitterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: al mitterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Thank You Steve Arnold To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 9:41 AM Hi George, Which Steve Arnold are you talking about?? There are two of them. --AL Mitterling - Original Message - From: Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:28 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: Thank You Steve Arnold Please see the following message from George Zay. He is still not able to post to the list. Everyone have a good night. Mike p.s. Thanks for asking me George. I am always happy to help you. --- On Sat, 9/27/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all! I just want to say thanks on the list to Steve Arnold for sending me a nice 13 gram end cut of an unclassified North West African meteorite. It's mighty kind of him to share some of these treasures to strangers. It was very much appreciated. If any of you come across Steve at one of those shows or what have you...give him a hearty pat on the back for me, will ya. George Zay **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - September 17, 2008
Now there is a meteorite worthy of picture of the day, week, month, or year. thanks for sharing Don Rawlings --- On Wed, 9/17/08, Michael Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Michael Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - September 17, 2008 To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 2:20 PM http://www.rocksfromspace.org/September_17_2008.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ruben Garcia reports: Glorieta, not hunting allo wed...
Steve. Do you suppose anyone has gotten permission to hunt the Meteor Crater area in light of all the CD coming on to the market in the past few years? Or maybe these are just old collections that have finally been bought from their ancestors. Yeah, I bet that's it. Don Rawlings --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Steve Schoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Steve Schoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ruben Garcia reports: Glorieta, not hunting allo wed... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 12:41 AM Did I name anyone? I know facts regarding what transpired out at Glorieta and at other sites. I will simply say that lines were crossed that I would never have, or thought of crossing. Wishing all meteorite hunters the best#8230; Steve Schoner IMCA #4470 -- Mike Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steve I am guessing you are referring to me in this post Trashing the land with ATV's? I think that recent photos reveals at least one that has done it rather blantantly. Now if you have a little time and read my story of finding the main mass you would know that the quad was not involved in the hunt it was only involved in the recovery. I am sure you with your amazing ability to hunt while hovering above the ground as to not disturb anything is quite unique and I am sure no one but you could have harnessed the power of a flock of spotted owls to safely fly out a 300 pound iron. I on the other hand did use a quad to to get this 300 pounder out I was just not smart enough to figure out another way. I rode into the area using roads designed for cars and cut by bulldozers (little late to worry about ruining the landscape with my quad tracks) then to within 150 yards using an old wagon trail, then the trail disapeared. Oh yea Steve I did bury the hole and you wont find any trash in the area either, weather it was mine or not I carry it back out with me. So yes I have ridden a quad in the mountains north of Santa Fe New Mexico, but I take offense that just because I was there that you assume it was me doing the damage. Steve you have actually hunted the Glorieta with me do you recall following me around and picking up my empty water bottles? Or was I destroying anything with my quad when you actually saw me there? Please keep your opinion to your self unless you know and have seen me doing something wrong. On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Steve Schoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ruben, I am not mad at you or anyone in particular, however-- I am very sad at the situation as it now stands. Now as for you and land owners... I know that there are land owners quite upset with you... Need I name them? I am sure that you know who they are. So, I leave that to your conscience. Trashing the land with ATV's? I think that recent photos reveals at least one that has done it rather blantantly. Steve Schoner IMCA 4470 -- Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Steve, You sound upset at me, though I'm not sure why. I had full permission from land owners for all of the above - Cash and Treasures, my videos, articles etc..- The and owners even allowed me to stay in their cabin while there. Does that sound like I trashed their area? I've never hunted on Federal property, I've covered all of my holes and never taken a quad to glorieta. So who are you talking about? Through the years we (meaning all successful hunters) have inspired others to become meteorite hunters. You inspired some yourself, including me! It happens. Did you think glorieta would be there for you and only you to hunt? I'm sorry it is shut down! But not for myself, I'm sorry for the land owners who got the shaft. I've spoken to them and they are not mad a me, but because of pressure from others they had to stop hunting all together. They were very good to all of us! Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfrightp=v Have a good idea for a business but no cash? Click here to search business funding options. http://thirdpartyoffers.mybluelight.com/TGL2341/fc/Ioyw6i52dVNmyia97nE0aG8PedagruJUmJ4VVq5Xr48zZAvNqmFCTi/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-753-6825 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ruben Garcia reports: Glorieta, not hunting allowed...
So Ruben, who do you suppose put the trash in the holes that Steve was referring to? Who do you suppose put in the 4x4 trails Steve is referring to? Who do you suppose the publicity hounds have been the past several years that brought all the attention to the area? (I haven't seen Steve on TV) Inquiring minds want to know. Don Rawlings --- On Fri, 8/8/08, Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ruben Garcia reports: Glorieta, not hunting allowed... To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Steve Schoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 2:11 PM Hey Steve, You sound upset at me, though I'm not sure why. I had full permission from land owners for all of the above - Cash and Treasures, my videos, articles etc..- The and owners even allowed me to stay in their cabin while there. Does that sound like I trashed their area? I've never hunted on Federal property, I've covered all of my holes and never taken a quad to glorieta. So who are you talking about? Through the years we (meaning all successful hunters) have inspired others to become meteorite hunters. You inspired some yourself, including me! It happens. Did you think glorieta would be there for you and only you to hunt? I'm sorry it is shut down! But not for myself, I'm sorry for the land owners who got the shaft. I've spoken to them and they are not mad a me, but because of pressure from others they had to stop hunting all together. They were very good to all of us! Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfrightp=v __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] A Feeling Of Shame
How about sending an email to Lil' Bush and the other right-wing Republicans that would rather see families bankrupted than doing something constructive about health care in this country. Don Rawlings - Original Message - From: Mal Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:26 AM Subject: [IMCA] A Feeling Of Shame Dear list members, I must say I'm somewhat disappointed in the reception/ turn-out thus far as related to the number of people on this list who have reached out and made some sort of gesture of goodwill by donating something, anything, to help a fellow community member who has REALLY undergone a horrible ordeal and still is in the midst of it -- not to mention what his wife, CJ, and other family members are having to deal with! Where are all of the 'BIG' dealers, all of the truly well fortuned collectors who have SO much that to offer up a single piece from their vaults of space treasure would be of little, if any noticeable, loss to them! Take a moment and each one of you think what it would be like if it were you in Gary's position? How would you then feel about your treasures compared to what dark, and foreboding place you now find yourself in. I'll be outright honest, I feel sort of ashamed to be associated with a community that apparently doesn't mind trying to always acquire more and more personal bounty from space, but are maybe just a little too reticent in giving up something, make a sacrifice to help a fellow 'kinsman' with the vary same passions and desires -- at least he did at one time until something much more important stepped in its place to unveil some truth of the duality of life. There is fortune and good, and then there is much suffering, loss, and indescribable pain and fear around the next bend waiting for ANYONE at ANYTIME!!! I'm sorry in advance if I'm off base, way out in left field, or just sound plain bitter, angry, or what ever label ya'll wish to place on this or me, but all I can say is it is a shame when you have a list comprised of hundreds of folks worldwide supposedly not only interested in a hobby, and appear to want to share and communicate with one another (hence why a list like this exist in the first place, correct?), but don't seem to want to reach out when a time like this comes upon us to help one of our own !!! I know times are getting harder financially , especially maybe here in the US for a lot of us, but still many of us are finding it possible to still invest and spend on ourselves and indulge our hobbyist desires and whims, so why then can't some of you ,if not all, offer something to show your true care, compassion, and concern, not just for another human being, but for one of us for goodness sakes! Again, I know I will probably receive some distasteful responses due to my putting my nose where maybe a lot of you feel it may not belong, but it is rather disgusting to see talk always going on about what's for sale, what I want, what can I acquire, while rarely anything is mentioned about Gary's plight save for our resident angel, Maria! It looks like some basic plain old greed and self indulgent type behavior to me! This is why we find so much misery in our world at any given time, and any given place -- it's always about me, me,me, me!!! Well, take just a few precious seconds and do some REAL soul searching then see what it's truly all about -- life I mean -- then maybe a few of you may come to a different realization!!! Now I'm through, I'll step of off the proverbial soapbox and await my stoning, but I felt lead to say what I did. Oh yea, you may also excommunicate me as well if the desire is there. Thanks for your time in indulging my rant! Mal ___ IMCA mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.imcamail.de/mailman/listinfo/imca __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A million $ rock on eBay
You have been on this list for years. Why should this surprise you? Don Rawlings --- On Sat, 7/19/08, Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A million $ rock on eBay To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 7:57 PM You know what I find interesting, every time a fake meteorite is posted on here, there is an uproar, tons of interest. When a real new meteorite or a fall is posted, the silence is most often deafening. Michael Farmer --- On Sat, 7/19/08, Rob McCafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rob McCafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A million $ rock on eBay To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 4:12 PM If, as quoted in the description, a picture is worth a thousand words, you'd imagine them putting a better picture. Mind you, with perfectly rectangular clasts, that's got to be a one off :P I could find a thousand words to describe it. I'd just need to look up rubbish and all its synonyms in a thesaurus. Cordially, Rob McC --- On Sat, 7/19/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] A million $ rock on eBay To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 10:08 PM Hi list, Check this rock out. It is eBay # 320275545235 and it is offered at one million $. It looks like a slice of concrete but what do I know. Speaking of which, I just took a photo of a dynamite meteor wrong. It is a piece of concrete that was freshly coated in tar with a broken face. Surprisingly eye catching. Both the parking lot and this stone look great! Email me if you would get a kick out of this photo. Tom Phillips **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] More golden showers
All the postings to this thread ended up in my spam folder. Don't you think a better choice for a subject line would have been better. GOLDEN SHOWERS? LOL Don Rawlings --- On Tue, 7/8/08, Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] More golden showers To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 1:57 AM Hi, Darren, List, Please note that the first press release said that the discovery disproved the now discredited theory of glacial transport. A few days later, they say: diamonds, gold and silver could have been ejected into the air during the blasts, West said, or they could have been carried south by rivers formed from the meltwater of liquified glaciers. Change your tune much? Note also that they specify a magnitude for the blast of 300,000 megatons. This would require an impactor of 1000 to 1300 meters in diameter (more for a comet) and would produce a 20-kilometer crater. They say a 5000 meter comet, for good measure. Even better is this assertion: For several months following the comet strike, the skies rained precious stone and metals, the researchers speculate. Diamonds drizzled down by the tons. FOR MONTHS? Diamonds and gold rained from the sky for MONTHS? As dust, they explain -- diamond dust and presumably gold dust. I wonder how many tens of thousands of tons of diamonds they think were laying around on the Canadian tundra? One easily testable assertion of their scheme is these massive floods of glacial meltwaters at precisely 12,900 years ago EVERYWHERE in the northern tier of states, entirely at the same instant, from the Atlantic to the Pacific. Since glacial melt chronology has been worked out in great detail over a century, there should be some sign of this massive melt they speak of. (PS: they're isn't any.) While in one place, they speak of a three-mile comet, elsewhere in the press release, they speak of the multiple airbursts... Always good to have a couple of different stories going, I guess. This just gets more entertaining by the day... Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:36 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] More golden showers http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,377449,00.html Diamonds May Have Rained Down From Space During Ice Age Monday , July 07, 2008 By Ker Than LS ADVERTISEMENT Diamonds and precious metals found in the eastern United States might have rained down during the last Ice Age after a comet shattered over Canada and set North America ablaze, all leading to a mass die-off of animals and humans. New chemical analyses of diamond, gold and silver found in Ohio and Indiana reveal the minerals were transported there from Canada several thousand years ago. The question is, how? There are no gold mines or silver mines in Ohio that anyone knows of, but there are plenty of them in Canada, said retired geophysicist Allen West, who was involved in the study. The discovery is consistent with a theory proposed by West and colleagues that a 3-mile-wide comet splintered over glaciers and ice sheets in eastern Canada about 12,900 years ago and wiped out man and beast. These would have been like ten thousand Tunguskas going off at once, said West, referring to a mid-air explosion over Siberia a century ago possibly caused by a fragmenting meteor. Precious rain The diamonds, gold and silver could have been ejected into the air during the blasts, West said, or they could have been carried south by rivers formed from the meltwater of liquified glaciers. For several months following the comet strike, the skies rained precious stone and metals, the researchers speculate. Diamonds drizzled down by the tons. Some of them you couldn't see, and animals would've been breathing them in, West told LiveScience. But other ones would clearly have been visible. They might've even hurt if they hit you. The larger diamonds were visible to the naked eye and dropped like hail stones within seconds of the blasts, West said. The smallest diamonds, the size of cold viruses, would have lingered in the atmosphere for weeks or months, eventually wafting down to Earth like expensive snowflakes. Killed man and beast Flaming fragments of the comet crashing to Earth sparked forests fires around the globe, West contends. The intense heat from the blasts set the very air on fire. North America's grassland, the furs of animals, the hair and clothing of humans - all would have been set ablaze. West and his colleagues have proposed that the comet strike contributed
Re: [meteorite-list] trade offer/allende
Steve, Didn't you just get that? Did you even bother to unpack it when you got it? Don Rawlings --- On Fri, 6/20/08, steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] trade offer/allende To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, June 20, 2008, 5:46 PM Hi all.I have a 113 gram slice of ALLENDE for trade if interested.I am looking for either estherville or nice oriented thumbprinted stone.Unclassified is always nice.Let me know offlist.Pics on my homepage of my website. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! http://chicagometeorites.net/ Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 16, 2008
A campo with an impact crater? I don't think so. Don --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/May_16_2008.html **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What the heck is going on?? Nothing!!! It's DEAD!!! JOKE
Is this waste of bandwidth and clutter in my mail box ever going to end? Don --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, You know what? I have a problem with you having a problem with me having a problem with Paul having a problem with others saying there is a problem, because I EXPRESSLY stated my last post that I had NO problem with Paul having a problem with others saying there is a problem. So your problem is unfounded. So I don't think you really have a problem. Now, tread softly on your response if your posting here ends up talking Paul out of giving me my free beer at your auction next year, then YOU are the one that is really going to have a BIG problem. Oh, to keep this slightly meteorite related, I am slowly getting items up at ebay to start the discounting, but people keep buying things before I lower the prices. Not that I have a problem with that. Should I be concerned that the above paragraph might be a problem since someone might take my reply to this last post as a gimmick to talk about my Steve Arnold's Famous Ebay Discount Marathon more than just one time in a week? Oh, I almost forgot, part of what I said above was a JOKE, an attempt to be funny. But some of it was serious. I am not up to sorting out which is which. So, if you are humourically challenged be careful before responding in anger! Steve #1 In a message dated 5/3/2008 3:19:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve, I have a problem with you having a problem with Paul having a problem with others having a problem. Sincerely, Michael on 5/2/08 5:30 PM, Paul Harris at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Steve! You're absolutely right :-) I owe you a beer on that one! Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WARNING JOKE AHEAD Be prepared to be tempted to be offended... but resist the urge! The following is ONLY a Joke: In a message dated 5/2/2008 2:28:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So please stop. The only problem is that people keep saying there is a problem... Paul, Actually, there are 2 problems, the one you mentioned and: The other problem is that you have a problem with other people saying there is a problem. Not that I have a problem with you having a problem with people saying there is a problem. Because if I did have a problem with you having a problem with other people saying there is a problem, then there would be 3 problems with it. ;-) wink! Joke. It was a joke. Just a joke. Please don't get mad at me for the joke. I warned you all in the Subject and in the heading and once again here at the end. Steve #1 Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list 'Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens.' --Kahlil Gibran __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What the heck is going on?? Nothing!!! It's DEAD!!! JOKE
Want a real joke? Watch the self promotion on cash and treasures. Or wear tye-dyed every day of your life. Don --- Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NO! And if you keep complaining, we are all going to Come over to your house, tie you up and tickle you! Michael on 5/3/08 11:45 AM, Don Rawlings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this waste of bandwidth and clutter in my mail box ever going to end? Don --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, You know what? I have a problem with you having a problem with me having a problem with Paul having a problem with others saying there is a problem, because I EXPRESSLY stated my last post that I had NO problem with Paul having a problem with others saying there is a problem. So your problem is unfounded. So I don't think you really have a problem. Now, tread softly on your response if your posting here ends up talking Paul out of giving me my free beer at your auction next year, then YOU are the one that is really going to have a BIG problem. Oh, to keep this slightly meteorite related, I am slowly getting items up at ebay to start the discounting, but people keep buying things before I lower the prices. Not that I have a problem with that. Should I be concerned that the above paragraph might be a problem since someone might take my reply to this last post as a gimmick to talk about my Steve Arnold's Famous Ebay Discount Marathon more than just one time in a week? Oh, I almost forgot, part of what I said above was a JOKE, an attempt to be funny. But some of it was serious. I am not up to sorting out which is which. So, if you are humourically challenged be careful before responding in anger! Steve #1 In a message dated 5/3/2008 3:19:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve, I have a problem with you having a problem with Paul having a problem with others having a problem. Sincerely, Michael on 5/2/08 5:30 PM, Paul Harris at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Steve! You're absolutely right :-) I owe you a beer on that one! Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WARNING JOKE AHEAD Be prepared to be tempted to be offended... but resist the urge! The following is ONLY a Joke: In a message dated 5/2/2008 2:28:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So please stop. The only problem is that people keep saying there is a problem... Paul, Actually, there are 2 problems, the one you mentioned and: The other problem is that you have a problem with other people saying there is a problem. Not that I have a problem with you having a problem with people saying there is a problem. Because if I did have a problem with you having a problem with other people saying there is a problem, then there would be 3 problems with it. ;-) wink! Joke. It was a joke. Just a joke. Please don't get mad at me for the joke. I warned you all in the Subject and in the heading and once again here at the end. Steve #1 Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list 'Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens.' --Kahlil Gibran __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) === message truncated === Don Rawlings Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What the heck is going on??
Situation normal then. Don --- Mark Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe everyone is interested more in the bickering and the BS! Mark Grossman - Original Message - From: Eric Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What the heck is going on?? Hi all, I don't know Arnold#1 (Steve) or Farmer personally but have been corresponding with Paul since I got into this meteorite biz. I know Paul is a good guy, and if Steve and Mike are his friends then they must be OK too. As Farmer said, maybe it's a spring cleaning thing. Ruben's right! Stop the BS and the bickering. Nobody wants to hear this stuff. We're on this list to learn more about meteorites and share information with our friends. This is a friendly list and I am glad to have signed up, I'm tired of filtering out all the BS to get to the solid meteorite related info. New Fall? Awesome! Someone has something good for sale? GREAT! New classification? Wonderful... As for the UFC match Haag vs Notkin I'd pay BIG BUCKS to see that! ;) Maybe a flaming meteorite trophy for the winner. Eric Wichman www.MeteoriteWatch.com --- Geezz! I'm slow, so maybe I missed something but Did we run out of reasons to stop bashing Steve Arnold (Chicago)? Or Bob Evans or other such screw-ups? I hate to see Farmer, Arnold#1 and Paul Harris in the cross hairs of each others scopes... First, because they are very knowledgeable and highly respected. Second, cause they are my Friends. Next thing you know Notkin and Haag are gonna square off in the octagon! Whats next? No More Dudes! Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WARNING: NOT a Joke; definition of Gimmick enclosed
Sounds a lot like the description for Cash and Treasures episodes. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Warning, this is NOT a joke. This is a serious post: Hello List, Check out:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimmick Thanks, Steve **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Completed.
No, you can still get to it. Click on the Link Jerry provided, in the upper right-hand corner type in meteorite in the search box. On the next page chose Lots in Past Sales in the drop down box and hit seach again. Keep in mind that the prices posted do not include the 20% or so buyers premium and tax if required. Don --- Jerry A. Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason, List, Sorry about that. It appears Bonhams must have taken the pages down shortly after I sent the link. The home page at Bonhams offers a phone number in the lower left corner that provides the sales prices. They will also fax the results to you. http://www.bonhams.com/ I wish they had left the pages up that gave the specimen descriptions, sizes and photos along with the completed sales prices. C'est la vie. Take care, Jerry W. JASON PHILLIPS wrote: Hello Jerry, It seems the link is broken, was there something else at then end? I am very excited to see it. Thanks, Jason - Original Message - From: Jerry A. Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MeteoriteCentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:41 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Completed. Hi Folks, Well, I see the big money boys (collectors and dealers) were hard at work today. They certainly blew me out of the water on 1938 Monahans (Texas) and Sandia Mountains (New Mexico). In reviewing the winning bids on the other meteorites in the auction, I didn't notice any bargains. They all seem to have sold for top dollar plus a bunch. Thought some of you might also like to review the auction results: http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/pubweb/publicSite.r Best regards, Jerry W. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] By Popular Demand................
I bet not. --- Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [P.S.: will you publish sources for your thin section list, too, Anne?] http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Auction at Bonhams on April 30 in New York.
This may be just a wild guess, but maybe Bonhams has the auction listed on their website since it is less than a month away. --- Timothy Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, Does anyone know if any other meteorites are being offered? Tim Heitz Midwest Meteorite - http://www.meteorman.org/ Go to Google News Rare meteorite goes under hammer 10 hours ago A meteorite is expected to fetch £500,000 at auction in New York this month. Weighing more than 925lbs, the object was discovered eight years ago in China's Xinjiang Uygar province. Its rare olivine crystals endured atmospheric and impact forces as it crashed down to Earth. Bonhams' Natural History Department director Thomas Lindgren said: Less than 1% of all meteorites are pallasites, the most alluring of all meteorites due to their aesthetic appeal. Pallasites - meteorites composed of around 50% olivine and peridot crystals and 50% nickel-iron - are thought to be relics of forming planets. The Fukang meteorite will go under the hammer at Bonhams on April 30 in New York. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How to make a Small Fortune
Or, buy known ruster pallasites and watch your collection disappear before your very eyes. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to make a small fortune: Start with a big fortune then start collecting meteorites **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dinner report
Congrats Michael on your big sale. Please keep us all informed. Maybe a trip report on your dinner when and if it happens would be nice. Possibly could develop into a cover story for Meteorite Magazine depending on who the lucky bidder was. This assumes you can remember what happened long enough to write a story considering the number of brain cells you must have lost living through the 60s in Southern California. It is refreshing to hear that you did it all for yourself and were up front about it. Party on dude. Don --- Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings all, Just thought you might want to know, the pleasure of my Company for dinner closed on eBay at a whopping $12.50, which Has been paid in full via PayPal. Someone suggested this might Be for charity. Do I LOOK like Geoff Notkin? No, this was in The tradition of Michael Casper and, therefore, strictly for Personal gain, glory and gratification. I'm RICH, I tell you! RICH! ( Michael Casper's auction closed in the low single digits. Eat your Heart out, Michael!) My dad can beat up his dad, too. Michael __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Interesting eBay auction
Not entirely off-topic http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=110233496850 Don Don Rawlings Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] '869?
5 to 10 cents a gram for NWA869? Maybe a couple of years ago, but not any more. I heard that there was virtually none to be bought at the Tucson show. Can attendees confirm this? Don --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:56:45 EDT, you wrote: Hello List, Noticed this on ebay. Does it look like NWA 869 to you guys? Perhaps it's just that I've never seen this litho. Comments appreciated. http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-869-meteorite-16-5-gram-polished-slice-NR_W0QQitemZ110 230760513QQihZ001QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I donno, looks like something old and rotten to me. 5 or 10 cents a gram seems about the right price for it. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] March 4 RSPOD Oriented (sic) 32kg stone
Not only is it not oriented. The RSPOD has a responsibility to edit questionable descriptions not that it has become good reference point for collectors, new and old. My vote is to change the description. Don --- Mr EMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok would someone that believes this is an accurate caption please defend it. Sean Northover, a student at Kennesaw Mountain High School, confirming the weight of a fresh, ORIENTED 32.6 kg chondrite??? http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_4_2008.html This is too early for April 1st. To let bad and really bad psuedoscience take over all we had to do was continue being silent on dubious claims. Now every other meteorite we see is oriented. We know this is the truth because any new commer, meteorite owner, is magically, over night, an expert at identifying and describing meteorite surface features. If anyone wishes to declare a meteorite oriented-- anyone may do so without a pittance of proof and no one on this list will ever object. Because we refuse to define oriented. Ergo, I have a perfect sphere meteorite that fell from my table to the floor and under the imagination that makes EVERY single meteorite oriented I can proclaim that my sphere is oriented having traveled through the atmosphere. Given the wide latitude used in claiming orientation no one can disprove that I am not correct. (OH YEAH and it has perfect fusion crust because its drop was extended for several seconds over a candle flame before reaching the floor). I can proclaim it as a fully oriented, fully fusion crusted, sphere-shaped fall and under the unfettered latitude we allow amongst meteorite collectors no one can prove my description wrong. So is this a hobby or a study of science? Continually Baffled, Elton __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 3/4/2008 S.R.P.O.T.D.
Bob, I think that is the point of how all this got started. That photo in RSPOTD does not show the orientation of the meteorite. Dave graciously pointed us all to his website for more photos. So it is possible that the ebay dealer wantabees could use that photo as proof that the meteorite collector list endorces an angular meteorite as orientated. I believe that the whole point Elton's original post and my original post was questioning the orientation of the meteorite as shown in the photo. Don --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Orientation is the most misused term in the Meteorite community. Orientation is a very obvious result of stabilized flight. There are very clear signs of this which you should be very aware of already. Thanks, Bob Don Rawlings Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] tucson pics page 2
They loaded SUPER FAST for me too. Italy can't seem to master the art of mail delivery so maybe it is no suprise that they have slow internet. --- Dave Gheesling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, Thanks for the fantastic and fun photos. Not sure what happened on Matteo's end, but they opened faster than greased lightning for me and I enjoyed all of them. Great stuff...much appreciated! Best, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M come Meteorite Meteorites Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:23 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] tucson pics page 2 why not put low resulution photos for not lose 2 hours for open all? Matteo - Original Message - Da : steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] tucson pics page 2 Data : Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:47:11 -0800 (PST) Hi again list.It has been another long day.Still trying to get up to snuff and catch my wind here.Well anyway,another 12 pics from the tucson show are up to see on tucson highlights page 2.These as well as the first page can be seen at://: chicagometeorites.net.The link should be right below on my signature.I will have 1 more page of pics tomorrow.I am going to go rest now.Let me know what you think of these. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! Chicagometeorites.net Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites __ __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
Just consider the source David. Most of us like your sphere collection. Don --- David Kitt Deyarmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As some of you may you I only collect Meteorite Spheres. Most people seem to appreciate my collection but I've run across a few people that have demonstrated utter disdain about how I choose to collect. Personally I think that it's up to each individual to collect in a way that works for them. I have no problem with someone not liking my collection but there's a point when subjective criticism become rude and obnoxious behavior. IMO, Matteo's comments about this cube tend to be more toward the rude end of the spectrum. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Return of Red Rain
Good Lord. We already spammed the list with this crap last year. It is not a meteorite so how about taking this garbage elsewhere. Thanks in advance. Don --- Mr EMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just when you thought it was safe again to walk in the rain http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/080122_red-rain.htm Eman __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Life on Mars!
Consider the source. FOX NEWS, which is no better than the old Soviet News Agency TASS or Al-jazeera for being fair and balanced. Don --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's what we'll be hearing about from the conspiracy theory nuts for the next couple of decades. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,324800,00.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The space program after Bush
Can there be any possible way to speed up the arrival of 1-20-09? Don --- E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone - A lot of you have carbonaceous chondrites in your collections. They resemble charcoal, and reflect little light. The 75 meter carbonaceous chondrites (comet fragments) are impossible to reliably find from the Earth. Trying to reliably find them from L1 is impossible as well, because the systems require too much power. The only reason to go to the Moon is to build the Comet and Asteroid Protection System, which could not only reliably give warning of approaching 75 m comet fragments, but an additional 6 months warning of approaching long period comets. While such a system could be built by an international consortium, if it is not, whichever nation provides the best warning system will assume the world leadership role in space. Once on the Moon, the infrastructure cold be used for other purposes, including SETI. So what does Lou's meeting all mean? Not much - some of the manned Mars enthusiasts (note their age - most of them were raised with the concept of an Earth-like Mars) are simply trying to reposition themselves after the failure of their neo-conservative allies. E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What are we doing? Ahhhh!
WE are not doing anything. Blame the news media that only tells the sensational stories. That email does not even deserve a reply. NO email that asks how rich am I now deserves a reply. Suppose you help this guy get his meteorite verified and classified. Is he going to reward you for your trouble by selling it to you at a reasonable price or is he just get on the internet and look for the highest bidder? People that write emails like the one you received don't deserve the time of day. Don --- Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I get so many emails from people that think they've found a meteorite. It's ok, that's what I signed up for when I put up a website and videos designed to teach. But I hate when someone sends me an email like this one. He wants $300,000 for this? Yet he doesn't even tell me its type or classification! For all I know it's a Gibeon. Maybe he stole it I don't know! But what makes him think he can sell it for this amount? What are we doing that makes everyone think their rock is priceless? Hello, 1.My aerolite. That's about weight 300kg. How money buy? us?/g? 2.My tell: 15801098322 3.Aerolite about outside measurement 80cm X 46cm X 38cm . 4.I'm sorry. I dou't speak English. I'm china. 5.(Picture) http://i.cn.yahoo.com/aerolite 6.Certificate to appraise. Is very authority section or men. Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Free $20 Meteorite
Bob, your suggestion seems to be a clear violation of ebay policies and might result in ebay cancelling the auction. http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-links.html Non-permitted links include, but are not limited to: Links to websites or pages that offer to trade, sell or purchase goods or services outside of eBay. This applies whether it is a static URL or an active link. Links to sites that solicit eBay User IDs, passwords or email addresses from buyers Links that encourage buyers to place their eBay bids through a site other than eBay Links or other connections to live chat systems Links to videos hosted on other Web sites Links to subscribe to newsletters or mailing lists hosted outside-of-eBay DON --- Bob Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric, Why don't you try the biggest meteorite market on the planet ? EBAY. Put up a few auctions giving them away for free, a penny or whatever and paste your website all over the auction. Offer one free meteorite per person only. Kindly ask that all you would like in return is that they tell their friends and other meteorite collectors about your website. A big, bold Free Meteorites should get the attention of many potential meteorite buyers. Probably more cost effective than offering a free $20 meteorite for a referral too. Ebay is a great place to sell as well as getting inexpensive advertising. Whatever you do, Good luck! Bob P.S. Put your website name in the item title. - Original Message - From: Eric Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 5:11 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: Free $20 Meteorite To All list members, Help me get the word out about my new site and I'll repay you with a free meteorite. Simple as that. I'll give away a $20 meteorite to anyone who refers a customer that buys ANY meteorite from my site regardless of price. I have a limited number of meteorites to give away as gifts so it's first come first serve on this deal. Get a free meteorite just for referring a friend. You don't have to buy anything and it won't cost you a penny. To top it off I'll even pay the shipping to ship the meteorite direct to you anywhere in the USA. Meteorites For Sale: www.meteoritesusa.com Maybe this will peak a little interest... yes? Regards, Eric Wichman MeteoritesUSA.com www.meteoritesusa.com www.meteoritewatch.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Samples
Doug and listees: I find it amazing that some dealers are only too willing to destroy the beauty of an oriented meteorite which is obviously a common type to get it classified and then refuse to get a rare meteorite classified because they think it looks like something someone else has. How is the collector, or his/her heirs, going to sell that rare meteorite that was never classified? It may seem like a bargain at the time to buy a field classified meteorite but there will come a time when it will most likely be considered worthless in the secondary market. Your advise is certainly sound. Don --- mexicodoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tim, OK, I guess the first thing I assumed (and possibly Mike did, too) was since you called it a fall it was like Gao-Guenie: a witnessed fall. But since you are apparently discussing an unwitnessed fall from a hot desert a.k.a. for us, dense collecting area (don't know where else to get all those Mars rocks), the best thing to do is to plot the strewn field. In the contemporary world that seems so difficult since we can't even get location information for one stone that has already been through maybe several hands. So I only see two options or combinations between them: 1) Don't buy anything that is not documented. Discourage others supporting this. 2) Buy everything under an agreement of trust from a reputable seller and submit the batch to a scientist and let him/her minimize the guesswork and possibly minor tests if doubts come up. Or in a positive light, to convince the scientist to say the batch is the same material or cull out what is not to arrive at the TKW. If you want to by Mars without any formal classification, in the form of many pebbles, there is no solution except 2), whether you go it alone or spread the risk with partners. Because you would now be representing a rock that has been subjectively field classified. While some people can live with this, others can't. If you can at least get locational information for your specimens, you don't have to give the full 20/20 - or anything for that matter if enough to meet the combined 20/20 is in curation as vouchers for the group after the naming of your material - if a scientist agrees to classify and pair it to an existing classification. This is the motivation of the newer guidelines. Some people get mad about subjective classification, because they broke the ground on the sample and invested, while others are pissed that it is obvious and common sense dictates the material is what it is (arguments like, bought from the same trader, got from the same nomad, found together): with no further support except subjective judgements perceived as strong and well founded. This latter may be true, but that still doesn't remove the reality. Only if the specimens fit together can this be foolproof. Even an expert meteorite hunter scientist can find or purchase a handful of meteorites in the field from a known fall and every once in a while a terrestrial rock can sneak in that has you fooled like a baby. Let me say it has happened to me, and it is a very frustrating and humbling experience. Some time I'll tell the story of a meteorwrong that saw me coming it was a remarkable fraud that would surprise anyone - the best scientists, at their first glance, included. So, the reality is also that unless each rock is carefully studied, nothing can avoid ocassional duds getting mixed in. Not to mention incorrect pairing of similr meteorites. Luckily in the sandy desert this isn't as great a problem as areas with varieties of rocks. How Unsettling, How Disagreeable to the innocent collector and enthusiast, scientist alike- but true. This is rthe dirty laundry of meteorite collecting. Hopefully someone has a better suggestion, but I wouldn't hold my breath unless I were an alchemist capable of ethically transmuting batches of meteorites ;-) There is no free lunch... and no one can make promises for something that hasn't been done. (Or can they?) This whole thing gets sticky, when, you buy meteorites from the literally same batch that another person has already classified. Sure: you may have the same material, but then again, just because the original buyer may not have demanded 100% error proffing during the classification and is selling some stones under the classification he got, doesn't make yours any more paired to the ones that were used for the typing work. Best wishes, Doug - Original Message - From: Timothy Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mexicodoug [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Samples Doug, This is what I'm thinking. Lets say I bought 50 Mars stones and the biggest was only 8 grams, now what?
Re: [meteorite-list] Samples
Bob and Listees: I saw an oriented iron meteorite one time (may have been on ebay) that had a side cut off. It looked like it used to be a perfect heat-shield. It was an iron meteorite so why? Lafayette was a perfectly oriented Mars meteorite that was cut improperly. Surely they could have cut a piece off the back or done a core from the back. But at least it was a rare type. Don --- Bob Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, You touched a nerve there. I hate it when I see an incredible oriented meteorite and then realize that it has been cut or ground for a window. I ve seen a couple recently that I would love to have in my collection and was willing to pay top dollar until I seen the cut ( even on the backside ) and then the value dropped by 80 % in my eyes. All dealers should really know what they are doing before they ruin an oriented meteorite. Bob - Original Message - From: Don Rawlings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Samples Doug and listees: I find it amazing that some dealers are only too willing to destroy the beauty of an oriented meteorite which is obviously a common type to get it classified and then refuse to get a rare meteorite classified because they think it looks like something someone else has. How is the collector, or his/her heirs, going to sell that rare meteorite that was never classified? It may seem like a bargain at the time to buy a field classified meteorite but there will come a time when it will most likely be considered worthless in the secondary market. Your advise is certainly sound. Don --- mexicodoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tim, OK, I guess the first thing I assumed (and possibly Mike did, too) was since you called it a fall it was like Gao-Guenie: a witnessed fall. But since you are apparently discussing an unwitnessed fall from a hot desert a.k.a. for us, dense collecting area (don't know where else to get all those Mars rocks), the best thing to do is to plot the strewn field. In the contemporary world that seems so difficult since we can't even get location information for one stone that has already been through maybe several hands. So I only see two options or combinations between them: 1) Don't buy anything that is not documented. Discourage others supporting this. 2) Buy everything under an agreement of trust from a reputable seller and submit the batch to a scientist and let him/her minimize the guesswork and possibly minor tests if doubts come up. Or in a positive light, to convince the scientist to say the batch is the same material or cull out what is not to arrive at the TKW. If you want to by Mars without any formal classification, in the form of many pebbles, there is no solution except 2), whether you go it alone or spread the risk with partners. Because you would now be representing a rock that has been subjectively field classified. While some people can live with this, others can't. If you can at least get locational information for your specimens, you don't have to give the full 20/20 - or anything for that matter if enough to meet the combined 20/20 is in curation as vouchers for the group after the naming of your material - if a scientist agrees to classify and pair it to an existing classification. This is the motivation of the newer guidelines. Some people get mad about subjective classification, because they broke the ground on the sample and invested, while others are pissed that it is obvious and common sense dictates the material is what it is (arguments like, bought from the same trader, got from the same nomad, found together): with no further support except subjective judgements perceived as strong and well founded. This latter may be true, but that still doesn't remove the reality. Only if the specimens fit together can this be foolproof. Even an expert meteorite hunter scientist can find or purchase a handful of meteorites in the field from a known fall and every once in a while a terrestrial rock can sneak in that has you fooled like a baby. Let me say it has happened to me, and it is a very frustrating and humbling experience. Some time I'll tell the story of a meteorwrong that saw me coming it was a remarkable fraud that would surprise anyone - the best scientists, at their first glance, included. So, the reality is also that unless each rock is carefully studied, nothing can avoid ocassional duds getting mixed in. Not to mention incorrect pairing of similr meteorites. Luckily in the sandy desert this isn't as great a problem as areas with varieties of rocks. How Unsettling, How Disagreeable to the innocent collector
Re: [meteorite-list] holy grail of martian meteorites
That is pretty funny. The holy grail of Martian Meteorites has not even been classified or verified by scientists. LMFAO. Sometimes you guys really crack me up. Don --- Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To me this is the most fresh and the most beautiful of the Martian meteorites and is the Holy Grail of the Martian meteorites http://www.meteorman.org/Mars_4857.htm Tim Heitz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 8, 2007
Urelite? If it has not been classified, then wouldn't suspected Ureleite be a better description? I thought the issue of homegrown classifications had been put to bed. Am I missing something here with this picture of the day? Don --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/December_8_2007.html **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SEYMCHAN
Please buy a nice specimen of Seymchan and be sure to let us all know when you list it on ebay. For Example: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290188774642 I guess the dragon sikhote-alin is not resting so comfortably this morning.: http://www.Chicagometeorites.net/ Don --- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning list.Simple question!How stable is the SEYMCHAN pallasite?Any answers will be helpful in determining if I buy any. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! Chicagometeorites.net Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SEYMCHAN
Steve. It might also help if you put the word METEORITE in the title so that it can be found in an eBay search. Also, I should add that it would be helpfull to spell METEORITE correctly. Good Luck... Don --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, you need to learn how to spell what you sell. SIKHOTE-Alin. That might help your sales. Michael Farmer --- Don Rawlings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please buy a nice specimen of Seymchan and be sure to let us all know when you list it on ebay. For Example: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290188774642 I guess the dragon sikhote-alin is not resting so comfortably this morning.: http://www.Chicagometeorites.net/ Don --- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning list.Simple question!How stable is the SEYMCHAN pallasite?Any answers will be helpful in determining if I buy any. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! Chicagometeorites.net Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new mali meteorite page
Thanks for sharing Steve. I especially enjoyed the photos of the smaller Mali Meteorites with the dirty hands. Maybe investing in a little soap is in order. Don --- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all.I am happy to let you all know that I just put up a new meteorite page on my website.It is MALI!I have gotten a little over a kilo in all very nice individuals.Please view at your liesure. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! Chicagometeorites.net Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Impact-melt Gao on ebay, not even one cent bd!
This is interesting. Is that a crater in the leading edge of this oriented Sikhote-alin that you have? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140173837051 Don --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out this great piece that is on ebay! What is up, not even one bid yet after 9 days. Beautiful piece of very rare and beautiful immpact-melt Gao meteorite. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ140173774635 See all available items at the links below. http://members.ebay.com/ws2/eBayISAPI.dll?viewUserPageuserid=meteoritehunters http://members.ebay.com/ws2/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=meteorite-hunter __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Looking to repair a trilobite
OOPS.. I thought I joined a meteorite list. My Bad. Don --- Rob Wesel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all I am looking for a contact who can do excellent restoration work on a trilobite. Thanks in advance, Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October 30, 2007
WOW Where has this piece been hiding all these years? Surely it is not a new find since it is illegal to hunt Meteor Crater. Don --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.spacerocksinc.com/October_30_2007.html ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] amazing mali meteorite
If you paid more than $2- a gram for this unclassified meteorite, YOU got ripped off yet again. There has to be more than a hundred KG of this. Don --- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good afternoon list.With all the different reports I have seen on this list,and all the pics of the different meteorites,I have to say that this is without a doubt, this is a different meteorite.I just got a 70.5 gram fragment that is rich in black crust,bright metal flecks, and very nice shock veins.It is a pristine piece.I can hardly wait for a complete stone. steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! Chicagometeorites.net Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] One Gram Carancas Meteorite - only $50- shipping
Item #300161908737 if the link does not work. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=300161908737 Don Don Rawlings Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] mail fall or not
Why are you in such a hurry to spend your $600- before this is sorted out? Chill out for a while. Do the smart thing. Wait. There is going to be plenty of it to go around. Keep in mind that it should not cost any more than a witnessed fall like Bassikounou or Oum Dreyga. Don --- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there list.I guess before I plop any money down to buy a piece of this new supposed mali fall,I really need some concrete evidence that this a real new fall or find.I am getting all different kind of responses about this new meteorite.Can someone really give me any sort of guarantee that this is indeed a new meteorite?I have seen many pictures,some say it is bassikounou being sold,some say it is amagala (oum dreyga),etc.So what is it?I know that when you buy a meteorite,you want it to be what it is.NOTHING ELSE!Meteorites being sold as something else I know will not be tolerated by this elite community.Any help will be appreciated before I put down my $600. steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! Chicagometeorites.net Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/199 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lake Titicaca meteorite - thin sections
Don't let the door hit you in the backside, skippy. Most of us have grown weary of your crap a long time ago. Don --- Dr. Richard Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just sent a e-mail to Actlabs in Canada requesting information on thin sections with priority service. I hope to send them a 57 gram specimen. I hope to get a response from them soon. Any valid researcher desiring a thin section can contact me off list. I don't know right now what the price will be for the thin section but it can be purchased directly from Actlabs but through me. The meteorite is fragil and is starting to oxidize in this humid weather and I want to get it into research as soon as possible. I make no profit on this. A dealer on the list has accused me of sending a virus, and has requested that I be removed from the list. Don't bother. I request to be removed, immediately. I've posted benign content on my blog, only to find out it's been removed. What a rat's nest this place is and I'm sick of it. Adios, Randall __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] another Randall post
This clown is a legend in his own mind. Don --- Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentlemen, (Please post to the list for me) I have in total 4,740 gms. of the Carancas meteorite with an option for another 500 gm. of material. Of this, a total of 259.6 gms. will be sold. Fusion crusted material comprise a total of 128.8 gm. I consider this to be legally mine, since I bought it from the land-owner and his family. The stones purchased from the family were also blessed by a Catholic priest in the town of Desagaudero. The rest I bought from thieves. Theft is wrong in the eyes of the government and God. The bulk of what I have, I consider it to be stolen and I will not sell any until I talk to the land owner and work out an agreement. Just before I left Desaguadero, I paid $2,000 for the 4 kilo piece from local authorities that was collected (stolen) shortly after the meteorite fell. Any Carancas meteorite over 50gms. that hits the market was obtained illegally. I want to petition the court in Desaguadero to declare anything outside of what was purchased directly from the family to be illegal. Australia and Brazil have National Treasure laws, Peru has laws regarding archeological artifacts, and the United States has private property laws. I will ask that the material currently in scientific institutions be exempted and will ask the land owner and the church in Desaguadero to allow them to keep what they have in the interest of science. Imagine that a meteorite fell onto your property and your local police, newspaper reporters and neighbors came in an took pieces of this meteorite until there was nothing left for you. What would your reaction be? What is Ebay's policy regarding the sales of stolen material? Some people will try to sell this stolen material on Ebay. My question to you, gentlemen, is what moral responsibilites do meteorite dealers have and what percentage of meteorites in the market do you believe to be stolen? Randall __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 1 more set of freebies
Is this some kind of cruel joke? Don steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning list.I have 4 small offerings to let go of.Sort of a birthday anthem.Another year of life,pretty good health,thanking god,etc.I like to give back to those who are not always fortunate like I have been.I have a micro of NWA 1685,And a 1 gram fragment of my new NWA 2749,A 4.7 gram gao with flowlines,and finally a small micro of bassikounou.If anyone is interested let me know.They can go out tomorrow as always on me.And since there is so much of it,I am looking for a nice 15 to 25 gram individual of HOLBROOK to add to my collection.Let me know off-list. steve soon to be 53!! Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! chicagometeorites.net.Specializing in Gao Meteorites! Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings - Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] the ugly weathered chondrite
Time to throw this ass off of the list. I will donate $10- to the Greensburg Relief fund if this clown does not offer to sell or give away this crap witin the next month. Don --- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list.Sometime ago Tom Phillips,the micro photo guy,got some very weathered ugly chondrites,that did not even looked like they should even be in your house,but after cutting them they show a very black universe.Devoid of chondrules and a small smattering of metal flecks losely floating about.I just got 118 grams in slices,endcuts and individuals.I have to say,despite the awful outside,the inside is just beautiful.Tom says that this is classification and hoprfully soon there will be an answer as to what this is.There is a slight pull with my magnet,maybe suggesting an LL maybe.Any thoughts from others that might have some of this?Just having it to look at the gorgeous interior is enough to have it.Picks soon on my website.I hope to obtain more later. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! chicagometeorites.net.Specializing in Gao Meteorites! Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - June 11, 2007
Is an unclassified meteorite really a meteorite without scientific verification? Or is it just a probable meteorite? Don. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/11/2007 8:41:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good Lord.. another unclassifed meteorite as Picture of the day? Yawn. There should be a rule. No unclassifieds as Picture of the day. Don Sorry you're disappointed Don but you know you don't have to view them if you choose not to! I post what collectors send me and if they want to share with others rather classified or not I see nothing wrong with it. Sincerely, Michael Johnson ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Don Rawlings - Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - June 11, 2007
Good Lord.. another unclassifed meteorite as Picture of the day? Yawn. There should be a rule. No unclassifieds as Picture of the day. Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.spacerocksinc.com/June_11_2007.html ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Planet-hunters find bonanza of new solar systems
Anyone want to take a guess to how long it takes for our resident spammer to post this exact same story to the list? Don Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/05/29/space.exoplanets.reut/index.html WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Planet-seekers who have spotted 28 new planets orbiting other stars in the past year say Earth's solar system is far from unique and there could be billions of habitable planets. The most recent planet discoveries bring the number of known exoplanets -- planets outside our solar system -- to 236, the researchers told a meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Honolulu Monday. We are beginning to see that our home is not a rarity in the universe, said Geoffrey Marcy, a professor of astronomy at the University of California Berkeley, who led the team. We are easily able to detect giant planets like Jupiter and Saturn around other stars. Most orbit far from the star like our own Jupiter and Saturn orbit from the sun, Marcy said in a telephone interview. It's a common structure among planetary systems. New techniques allow astronomers to detect planets that are not enormous although Earth-sized objects cannot yet be seen, said the researchers. Four of the systems also have multiple planets, like Earth's own with its sun, eight planets (Pluto was demoted from planet status) and smaller orbiting objects. We are finding that most stars have not just one planet but when we find one there is a second or a third or a fourth, Marcy said. The ... attribute which really has us the most excited is this new planet which we found three years ago, Marcy said. The Neptune-like planet orbiting the star Gliese 436 has intrigued scientists because it appears to be covered with water -- albeit rock-hard, hot water in a most un-Earthlike chemical state because of the intense pressures on the planet. Earlier this month, Swiss and Belgian researchers imaged the star as this planet crossed between it and the Earth. The tiny change in the star's light gave them the planet's diameter and density. From the density of two grams per cubic centimeter -- twice that of water -- it must be 50 percent rock and about 50 percent water, with perhaps small amounts of hydrogen and helium, Marcy said. Now we are very sure it has a rocky core and this giant thick envelope of water, he added. This is why we are jumping out of our clothes. It is the first time we have determined the structure of one of these extrasolar planets. It is rocky like Earth but it has a lot of water which is the essential ingredient for life. This is almost certainly happening over and over again, Marcy said. Scientists had theorized this for decades but now the hard evidence is starting to pour in. Our Milky Way galaxy has 200 billion stars. I would estimate that 10 percent of them, perhaps, have planets that are habitable, Marcy said. There are hundreds of billions of galaxies, all of which are more or less like our Milky Way Galaxy, which is tens of billions of planets like our own. There is one unusual property to our solar system: the nearly circular orbits of the planets, which gives a consistent dose of radiation from the Sun. Other solar systems seen so far are not usually like this. Most of the planets are not in circular orbits around the host star but in elongated ones called elliptical orbits, Marcy said. We enjoy nearly constant temperatures throughout the year, he added. If the Earth got too close to the sun, the Earth would heat up, the water would boil off and that would be bad. Too far, and it would freeze. An elongated orbit could not sustain life, Marcy said. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] oh no!just when you thought it was safe on ebay
Put a sock in it. Ebay scams are a dime a dozen. Isn't about time for you to have a give-away in honor of Memorial Day? Don steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well with the silver surfer coming soon you just thought you would be halfway safe on ebay,when we find out,the GALAXY METEORITE MAN has returned with his 34 positve's and many negatives.I mean see how long it took us to get our joliet,ill meteorwrong guy to go away. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! chicagometeorites.net.Specializing in Gao Meteorites! Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] givaways
This is the funniest post since the 6000 year old earth post.!! Don Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List!!! I have found several dozen fragments of meteoritic material that has accumulated over the years in my belly button!!! I don't know what meteorites these are, but no doubt they are chips from some invaluable material!!! While I can't guarantee exactly what falls these are, I will provide signed certificates of documentation stating they came from my belly button!!! As everyone knows, I like only the FINEST meteorites, so, each and every one of these is bound to be great!!! The 327th emailer will get the biggest of these crumbs!!! I'll even pay the freight - I am such a guy!!! Please, no crying from the other 326 emailers!!! I just LOVE giving beginning collectors a head start!!! I was just like you, once!!! It just makes me feel. well, so FULL of myself!!! Now, don't worry if you are one of those 326 losers, I will be posting to the list several times a week for YEARS, generously offering my crumbs!!! Sometimes, I might do it several times a DAY!!! Now, don't you whiners out there get all over me!!! You are just jealous buzz kills!!! If you have issues with me, meet me in Tucson!!! I am a BIG GUY and my dog is bigger than yours, too!!! Well, that about does it. oh, I forgot!!! I have several new meteorites on my web page - never mind the address, I am sure you know MY web site URL!!! Enjoy at your leisure!!! OH, and I am a good PATRIOT, too and I believe in God and I was a boy scout! and I like girls!!! Michael Blood, San Diego, CA USA!! Collecting Meteorites since the dawn of Man!!! Specializing in the pretty ones (meteorites, not men) Tell me what you think! (unless I don't want to hear it) on 5/28/07 11:56 AM, steve arnold at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list.I was just cleaning out an old drawer and I found some old campo pieces,really small.I have 3 to givaway.If anyone wants them,you know the drill.Chime in for the first 3 people.I will pay shipping.I am just cleaning everything out now so all I have left is gao and my main collection. steve Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! chicagometeorites.net.Specializing in Gao Meteorites! Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites __ __ TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WINNER OF CAMPO
Turn off your CAPS key. You are shouting. steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HELLO LIST.JOE KERCHNER,FROM ILLINOISMETEORITES,WAS THE UNOFFICIAL WINNER.HE OFFERED ME A TRADE FOR SOME NICE GAO PIECES.HE WAS # 22,I ONLY GOT TO #30.I NEVER GOT TO #40.SO THANKS AGAIN TO ALL WHO SENT ME ALL THE EMAILS FOR THE CAMPO.I MIGHT HAVE ANOTHER GIVAWAY THIS WEEKEND,SO KEEP WATCHING.AND REMEMBER,KEEP THE DONATIONS COMING FOR THE GREENSBURG RAFFEL.WE ARE ONLY DOING GOOD TO HELP THOSE POOR PEOPLE WHO LOST ALOT. STEVE ARNOLD,CHICAGO,USA!! Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! chicagometeorites.net.Specializing in Gao Meteorites! Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48518/*http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/;_ylc=X3oDMTE3NWsyMDd2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDY2FyLWZpbmRlcg-- hot CTA = Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
