Re: [meteorite-list] Man claims he found meteorite making Dyson’s find — if it is a meteorite — worth about $2.3 million.
I love how the Merritt Herald newspaper article, http://www.merrittherald.com/news/166428806.html, says "Most meteorites are valued at about $800 per gram." I have a 2974g NWA515 L6 and a 2594g NWA527 L5 I'd be more than happy to sell at $800 a gram so I can retire. Fred Bieler Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights www.astronomics.com 800.422.7876 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 2:47 PM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] Man claims he found meteorite making Dyson’s find — if it is a meteorite — worth about $2.3 million. Hello Listers Came across this article today about some guy finding a meteorite that could be worth 2.3 million . If only it was that easy, well with some hunters it is :) but me being a city boy, I think it would be hard for me to go look for a meteorite on Park Ave or 5 ave lol :) Down below is an abstract from the article and the link. Shawn Alan eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? http://www.meteoritefalls.com/ Man claims he found meteorite near Merritt A prospector who was panning for gold alongside the Coldwater River last month came across something he believes is not of this world. An unusual-loooking rock glistened from beneath about four feet of water, resting above other rocks that were covered with algae. “I think that if this rock were here for a while, it would have also been covered with algae,” Arnold Dyson, a former miner and prospector, said of his July 8 discovery. He said with “99 per cent certainty” that this rock is a meteorite. “Just look at the way the surface looks melted,” he said. “You can also see where the impact was made. “I’ve seen a lot of rocks in my day, but this is unusual.” http://www.merrittherald.com/news/166428806.html I think all humans have meteorite madness in them :))) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Telescope choice
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[meteorite-list] The Dark Side . . . oops!
>From Close Encounters of the Third Kind: Project Leader: "If everything's ready here on the Dark Side of the Moon... play the five tones." Fred Bieler Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights www.astronomics.com 800.422.7876 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: Mani vs Arnold Verdicts
Steve, Smart move, choosing Perry Mason as your attorney. Congrats on your successful verdicts. A weight has been lifted. Fred Bieler Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights www.astronomics.com 800.422.7876 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of meteorh...@aol.com Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 2:07 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mani vs Arnold Verdicts To whom it may concern: With the Honorable Judge Martha Tanner presiding over the 166th District Court, in Bexar County, Texas; a jury of 12 of my peers after a long trail returned the follow verdicts today: Question 1, Did Steven Arnold commit fraud against Brenham Meteorite, Ltd.? Jury's Answer: No. Question 2, Did Steven Arnold commit fraud against Philip Mani? Jury's Answer: No. Question 3, Did Steven Arnold fail to comply with his fiduciary duty to Brenham Meteorite, Ltd.? Jury's Answer: No. Question 4, Did Steven Arnold fail to comply with his fiduciary duty to Philip Mani? Jury's Answer: No. Question 5, Did Steven Arnold fail to comply with the partnership agreement? Jury's Answer: No. My wife Qynne and I would like to thank God for delivering this victory for us. We are thankful to have this chapter of our lives behind us and we look forward to the exciting things ahead. Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Taking a meteorite strike to the Bank
Personally, I'd prefer to be hit in the head by a small meteorite fragment, which lodges in my brain and permits me to perform miracles -- which is what I seem to recall happened to George McWhirter Fotheringay in the 1936 UK film "The Man Who Could Work Miracles," based on an H. G. Wells short story. I can think of several miracles that could stand to be performed about this time. Fred Bieler Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights www.astronomics.com 800.422.7876 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?
I "fourth," or whatever the correct term would be. I move for the motion to be carried by acclamation. No more grousing . . . oops, I meant to say dowsing. Fred Bieler Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights www.astronomics.com 800.422.7876 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:06 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ? Steve wrote: "Second!" Bernd: "Third!" :-)) I've been spending an enjoyable evening at the microscope ogling my NWA 5507 slice (16.39 gr - see Encyclopedia if interested). Marcin's NWA 5507 is an interesting L3.2 with lots of spectacular features: - clasts (or PP chondrules?) with abundant translucent, light-green hypersthene crystals in a grayish groundmass + tiny chromites - finely disseminated troilite - troilite-rimmed chondrules - complex BO-Pyroxene chondrules - and much more! Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Other Hobbies
So many hobbies; so little money. Fred Bieler Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights www.astronomics.com 800.422.7876 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Help please. How to get large pieces Weighed
Consider a FedEx shipping location or a retailer who ships via FedEx regularly. The electronic shipping scales FedEx supplies to us measure up to 75 pounds with two decimal place accuracy. I just weighed a letter on one. It weighed 0.05 pounds or 8/10ths of an ounce. This agreed with a separate postal scale, so the FedEx scale seems to be fairly accurate. They probably have higher capacity scales at a FedEx shipping store, as they take parcels up to 150 pounds. Fred Bieler Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights www.astronomics.com 800.422.7876 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Galactic Stone & Ironworks Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 8:13 AM To: Steve Dunklee Cc: vegasroc...@cox.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Help please. How to get large pieces Weighed Hi Bill, A feed store is a good place also. And possibly your local vet. Best regards, MikeG On 8/24/10, Steve Dunklee wrote: > another place to have large pieces weighed if you dont own a scale would be > at a certified scale at the supermarket checkout. Or at an agricultural > grain mill. They have certified scales for feed and livestock. Most > university labs also have scales but most are not certified. Have a great > day Steve > > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Last Night I sold My 25, 000 Meteorite Specimen!
Michael, I, too, have a few. At rough count 204, although probably 40% are multiple specimens from single two and three digit NWA numbers that came from your very early buying trips (6 of this, 12 of that, etc.) Fred Bieler Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights www.astronomics.com 800.422.7876 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Famous words
William Bendix, "the Life of Riley," NBC-TV 1953-58. Gleason played the role for one season, 49-50, but really wasn't suited to the blue collar role. Fred Bieler Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights www.astronomics.com 800.422.7876 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Carl 's Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 6:50 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Famous words Sounds like Jackie Gleason. Carl, Flintstone Fan Pete wrote: >What a revoltin' development this is! See if anyone remembers who said that one. Everyone saying how they liked "My First Meteorite Presentation" and I have to see it from a scan BECAUSE MY COPY STILL IS NOT HERE. What a revoltin' development this is! One of these days Meteorite Magazine, one of these days, pow right in the kisser!... _ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackT oSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: Famous words
Leon Ames was in the TV series "Life with Father" in 1953-55. William Bendix was in The Life of Riley" in 1953-58, 212 episodes, and used the "What a revoltin' development this is" catchphrase in that show. Fred Bieler Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights www.astronomics.com 800.422.7876 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of countde...@earthlink.net Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:31 AM To: Richard Kowalski; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Carl 's Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Famous words Richard and List, The character actor, famous in my time, William Bendix, star of the 50's television show "Life with Father" originated and used as his signature line " what a revoltin development " in every weekly episode. I will bet a nice unclassified Nevada individual (recent find) against whatever anyone wants to put up that I'm right. First person that proves me wrong gets the prize. Proof has to be third party published material, so we can all see it. Have fun, Count Deiro -Original Message- >From: Richard Kowalski >Sent: Sep 2, 2009 11:02 AM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Carl 's >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Famous words > >Nah, > >Yesterday I thought a cartoon character, but this morning seeing Carl's response, all I could hear was Jimmy Durante speaking those words... >-- >Richard > > >--- On Wed, 9/2/09, Carl 's wrote: > >> From: Carl 's >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Famous words >> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 4:49 AM >> >> >> Sounds like Jackie Gleason. >> >> Carl, Flintstone Fan >> >> >> Pete wrote: >> >> >What a revoltin' development this is! >> See if anyone remembers who said that one. >> Everyone saying how they liked >> "My First Meteorite Presentation" and I have to see it >> from a scan BECAUSE MY COPY STILL IS NOT HERE. >> What a revoltin' development this is! >> One of these days Meteorite Magazine, one of these days, >> pow right in the kisser!... >> >> >> _ >> Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. >> http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackT oSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 >> __ >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > > >__ >http://www.meteoritecentral.com >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
I'd suggest using plastic bubble wrap to protect them during shipment, as it already consists of many holes surrounded by plastic. That way, if the hole gets damaged in transit, the recipient already has a supply of replacement holes on hand. Fred Bieler Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights www.astronomics.com 800.422.7876 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Martin Altmann Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:21 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites Thank you Matthias, indeed it is the largest hole I ever found. I hope it was no mistake to make it public. The geographic coordinates I will publish as soon as the scientific work will have been done, for everyone having a fair chance to hunt his own hole. I plan, after classification is done, to slice the hole down. First 2500 people to chime in, will get a parthole for free. I'm only not sure yet, how to wrap them, for the holes not getting damaged during shipping. I will keep you update hourly about the distribution of the freeholes. Furthermore I offer to any university, high school and rest home etc. a piece of hole for free for scientific studies and educational purposes. All others already can pre-order on a moderate price-per-gram-rate. So don't hesitate, as a famous hole said once: "Holes are like money in the bank, money in the bank!!" -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: majbaerm...@web.de [mailto:majbaerm...@web.de] Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 00:46 An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites Wow, Martin, I saw holes in different things - but this is a great one indeed. Void, nothing else. Leeding to nothing. Impressing. But a bit daemonic, no? If you'd be willing to part with it, I'd accept it as a freehole. And I'd sing your praise in eternity. - Original Message - From: "Martin Altmann" To: Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:18 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites >I found a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago Me too. http://kuerzer.de/terresthole -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von steve arnold Gesendet: Samstag, 22. August 2009 20:16 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites Hi list.Well it is nice to see that the list has quieted down.I was wondering.I know that there are alot of holes in iron meteorites,but has there ever been any documented evidence of holes in stone meteorites?I found a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago,but I have never seen one from space.Any comments? Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!! __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cloudy Nights Space Rocks Forum
Since Walter was nice enough to bring up Cloudy Nights, I'd just like to add that you can browse all the fora on CN without being a member, including Space Rocks, but you have to be a member to post messages. And now a word from our sponsor: if you are a Cloudy Nights member (which you can join for free) you get a discount on virtually anything you buy at www.astronomics.com -- telescopes, accessories, books, etc. But, if you're into astronomy (and Space Rocks), it's worth visiting Cloudy Nights even if you don't join to save money on a telescope. Fred Bieler Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights www.astronomics.com 800.422.7876 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Walter Branch Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:18 PM To: meteorite list Subject: [meteorite-list] Cloudy Nights Space Rocks Forum Hello Everyone, As a follow-up from yesterday's posting about the website Cloudy Nights, I would like to invite fellow Meteorite Central list members to check out the "Space Rocks" forum at Cloudy Nights. Not as an alternative to Meteorite Central, but simply as a nice place to visit and post. The members there are very friendly congenial and are eager to learn and share information about meteorites. Meteorite Central list member Martin Horejsi (aka, Dark Matter here; Zagami there) has a very delightful and informative (when is Martin not informative - he is better than Burks' Cosmic Debris) running column titled "A Few Good Meteorites" featuring fantastic pictures and text about old, historic meteorites. If you have not seen this, you are missing out on what could easily be published as a book about historically, scientifically and culturally significant meteorites. It's that good! Here is a link to the Space Rocks forum: http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/postlist.php/Cat/0/Board/Metorites Other areas of interest on Cloudy Nights include a Vendor's forum (including meteorite vendors): http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/postlist.php/Cat/0/Board/vendorann And Classifieds and Swap-and-Shop sections (including meteorites). BTW, there are no selling or listing fees and no membership fees when you join Cloudy Nights. Of course for those of you with an interest in Astronomy (like me) there are also forums devoted to lunar and planetary observing, deep space and double star observing, equipment and eyepieces, binoculars, telescope-specific forums, astronomical art (which I like), sketching (which I am getting into), among others. Anyway, at least check out the Space Rocks forum. It's really nice. -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: "Walter Branch" To: "Richard Kowalski" ; "meteorite list" Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Trim Saw? > Hi Richard, > > I hope you are not planning on using a tile blade with that saw. The kerf > will take away a large portion of any meteorite you cut. > > -Walter Branch > > - Original Message - > From: "Richard Kowalski" > To: "meteorite list" > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:11 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Trim Saw? > > >> Awhile back I asked this list for comments on trim saws. I got a number >> of comments off list and at least one person asked for an update once I >> decided on a saw. >> >> I just ordered the Husky 7" Wet Tile Saw from Home Depot >> >> http://tinyurl.com/lofh24 >> >> It seems to have a pretty good user rating (4.4 out of 5 stars, 18 >> ratings) and is currently on sale for $126.88 with free shipping. It is >> only available online and not in their stores. >> >> Unfortunately for those of you that live in Alaska or Hawai'i (or outside >> the US for that matter) it isn't available to you. >> >> Since I have to re-tile my bathroom, I can justify this saw a little >> easier! >> >> Thanks for all of you who gave me input. >> >> -- >> Richard Kowalski >> http://fullmoonphotography.net >> IMCA #1081 >> >> >> >> __ >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Three Strikes and You're Out
One of the things my telescope business, Astronomics, allows me to do is own the astronomy oriented forum at www.cloudynights.com. This is the largest, and we believe the friendliest, astronomical forum site on the internet and the official world-wide forums of the 2009 International Year of Astronomy. We have over 33,000 registered users (some of whom are list members here). When I checked a few minutes ago, we had 368 registered users online in the middle of the day and a substantial number of anonymous users. Granted, Cloudy Nights has a lot of volunteer moderators who monitor the various fora full time and keep things civil, which is not something that can be done here because of the small size of the meteorite community, but there are a few things that might be worth considering. The basic Cloudy Nights Terms of Service are as follow: Simply put, the following behavior is expected from users: * Play Nice * Share * Be Polite * Be Honest * Respect other members & the administrators and moderators who are working to keep this board a useful resource. Above all, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. If you want to see the full Cloudy Nights Terms of Service, heres a link: http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/233117/page /0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1. If a Cloudy Nights user violates the TOS, the moderators can give the user a warning strike and delete objectionable posts or portions of the post with the concurrence of the other moderators. Next violation, another warning and a second strike. Third strike, and its like baseball, youre out (at least for a while to give you time to cool off). The moderators vote to give the user a three-day timeout (where the user cant post to the fora or reply to fora comments for three days). After a three-day timeout, continued violations of the TOS result in another timeout of three days or longer, while violations after multiple timeouts leading to bans up to and including one for life. The moderators and administrators invariably have extended discussions about the penalties out of view of the general users before deciding on any of these steps. While it is unlikely that this meteorite forum has enough members to allow it to become a fully moderated forum like Cloudy Nights, Art might find it worthwhile to consider applying the CN three strikes rule himself when it comes to the flame wars and other uncivil emails that sometimes seem to far outnumber the useful emails. When large numbers of list members complain about the flame wars and the other members failure to play nice, and some leave the forum for good because all they find is post after post kvetching and beating a dead horse, it might be time for the owner to apply a little gentle pressure on the offending members in an effort to retain the members who are being offended, rather than let them drift away. Id rather lose a few bad apples than have them put the entire orchard at risk. Fred Bieler Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights www.astronomics.com 800.422.7876 Fred Bieler Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Better View Desired www.astronomics.com 800.422.7876 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: Fw: Kem Kem, the original generic name before NWAs, Northwest African meteorites
NWA 400 shows in the MetBase as a provisional name and is described only as an uncrusted metal-rich chondrite with an "Origin/pseudonym: Algeria," bought by Dean Bessey, and with no mention of the name Oum Rockba. Michael Cottingham sold large quantities of a meteorite named Oum Rockba saying it had been found 12 miles west of the village of Oum Rokba in Southern Morocco, was bought by him October 2000, and had been classified by Alan Rubin of UCLA as an H5, S2 W2. Michael told me a few months ago via email that he didn't know why the classification had not been officially submitted to the NOmCom, but that he would find out from Dr. Rubin. To date, still no answer. Is the Bessey NWA 400 truly the stone sold by Cottingham as Oum Rockba? I've been trying to find out for eight years. With 14 stones of "Oum Rockba" totaling 5732 grams (the largest 4126 grams) as part of the results of an investment in one of Michael's early buying trips, any assurance one way or the other would be appreciated. Enquiring minds want to know. Thanks. Fred Bieler www.astronomics.com -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Rob Wesel Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:43 AM To: Brian Cox; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; drtanuki Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Kem Kem, the original generic name before NWAs, Northwest African meteorites I will opine that Kem Kem did have a bit of the catchall going for it but it did not precede NWA numbering The SA or Sahara numbers were first Other catchalls may include Oum Rokba (NWA400), NWA 869, Franconia, Dho 020 And let's slip in an ad...NWA 001 available here http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280383448019 Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/nakhladog -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: "Brian Cox" To: ; "drtanuki" Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 10:06 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: Kem Kem, the original generic name before NWAs,Northwest African meteorites > > > > > Dirk, > > Why are you so angry? Your use of CAPS in INCORRECTLY and rambling on > about > hippies and food and Berber shave and Burma shave and all kinds of things > that sound like you're high or drunk. Are you made at me about something > or > what has gotten into you? Is it because I asked your opinion on something > or > that I didn't buy any meteorites from you after asking you if you had > certain specimens? > > I think it's inappropriate that you sent this to the list and went on and > on > about it. If you were clear headed you would have been able to tell that I > wrote in the paragraph I sent that I was 'told' this information and NOT > that it was my personal opinion, and I will print it here again: > > "I was 'told' from our fellow history buffs on the list and other IMCA > members for what we now call "NWAs" "Northwest African" meteorites." > > I did NOT state this was my view, nor did I state that this was the gospel > from me. I stated, again, "That I was told by others on the list, and IMCA > members and if you had been reading the posts you would have read those." > Everyone has said Kem Kem was a generic name and it seems to have DUG up a > lot of old painful memories for you and you seem to be spewing them out > here > in anger at me. > > Please calm down and relax and read it again later today or in the evening > when you can understand it better without jumping down my throat. > > There is something more than just my quote here that is angering you and I > can't help you with that. > > Regards and all the best to you. > > Brian > >> - Original Message - >> From: "drtanuki" >> To: "Brian Cox" ; <"meteorite- >> list"@meteoritecentral.com> >> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 11:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kem Kem, the original generic name before >> NWAs, Northwest African meteorites >> >> >> >> Dear Brian and List, >> Brian your are incorrect in your history lesson. >> Michael Casper announced in his December 1999 catalogue that "a new find >> out of Morocco- Kem-Kem" was "Found in August, 1999. Stone. >> Classification pending. Kem Kem, Dahara, Morocco". Casper`s catalogue >> lists: >> 22.4g @ $44.80; >> 26.9g@ $53.80 >> 31.5g@ $63.00 >> 33.5g@ $67.00 >> 41.0g@ $82.00 >> 46.8g@ $93.60 >> 53.2g@ $106.40 >> 58.6g@ $117.20 >> 67.4g@ $134.80 >> 7
