RE: [meteorite-list] Rock in your Pocket?
I carry one or two around any time that I'm going to meet people who are at all interested in astronomy or even just groups of people in general. I've had several people say things to me like "I've got a rock just like that in my rock garden". So far none of them have been the real thing but you never know. Usually I carry around my biggest pieces, which aren't THAT big (the largest is just over a kilogram); A moroccan stoney and a campo del cielo iron. They're both rough uncut hand sized pieces.Graham Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter From: "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSubject: [meteorite-list] Rock in your Pocket?Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:31:16 -0500>Do you carry a meteorite in your pocket regularly? If yes, what is your favorite piece>to carry?>>Gary>http://www.meteorite-dealers.com>>__>Meteorite-list mailing list>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What great hobby!! + microwaves to detectmeteorites?
Cool, do you know if he's had any luck? ~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "JKGwilliam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Maria Haas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What great hobby!! + microwaves to detectmeteorites? Maria, One of our list members, Keith Vazquez, has been using GPR for many years and has used it to try and locate meteorites. Keith is currently recovering from some surgery and might be off his oats for a while but I'm sure he'd be happy to post some info and stories to the list. Best, John Gwilliam At 05:33 AM 4/11/2005, Maria Haas wrote: I have lightly discussed with another listmember about using GPR (Ground Penetrating Radar). Perhaps someone could offer some info on how beneficial that is in the field. Kind Regards, Maria __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Microwave my meteorites?
That's cool! I've done many of those experiments. In fact, I built a HERF gun (a sort of microwave ray gun) out of microwave oven parts, some scrap metal and duct tape. It worked really well. I could fire a beam of microwaves that could fry a remote control, make a CD go up in sparks and light a flourescent light bulb from 7 feet away without wires. Just for the hell of it I put my hand in the beam and it felt warm but suddenly I felt a burning pain on the side of my middle finger where a large blood vessel runs and pulled my hand out of the beam. I won't do that again. :-S I noticed when filming it that everytime I placed something metal into the beam, the camera would go fuzzy from the backscattered microwaves. This is what gave me the idea of sending a microwave beam into the ground and checking for backscattering to find meteorites. If you were to use a short wavelength and send it down by means of a bunch of waveguides all lying parrallel to eachother in a big grid and pointing downwards, you'd have a wide but strait beam and the whole apparatus could be put on wheels and pulled behind a vehicle. If each waveguide had a detector in it to detect the backscattering then you could figure out how big the object was by the number of waveguides that detect backscattering. I just got my letter of acceptance from the college I applied to and it's for an electronics engineering course so maybe when I'm done it I can build this bad boy!! Cheers all Graham ~~~~~~~~~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: harlan trammell To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:12 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] RE: Microwave my meteorites? sounds cool- http://margo.student.utwente.nl/el/microwave/ i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Maria Haas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [meteorite-list] RE: Microwave my meteorites? >Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:21:13 -0400 > >Hi Guys, > >I just know that the acres of farm fields I have access to has >meteorites just waiting for a meteorite detector/detectress, and an >able-bodied shoveler/shoveltress and I would love to put together >plans to be that such person someday. I'm not sure I'm ever going to >be a 10' hole-digger but I can aspire to 3' for a nice prize found >in my very own strewnfield (yes, I'll find one). After I find a >strewnfield then I'll consider 10' but only with digging equipment. > >Does Whites still put out such a detector? (I could look on their >website but don't know exactly what to look for.) Does your neighbor >get used model$? How about display model$? We have to consider light >weight if that is a possiblity. I know I'm getting way ahead of >myself but I want to be ready! > >As it happens, Arizona Keith is the same person I was discussing GPR >with and have been leaving him to recuperate quietly. I have trouble >recuperating quietly...can you tell? No jokes please ;) (...unless >they're really funny) > >No snow here in SE Michigan (right now), >Maria > > >>From: David Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: JKGwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>CC: Maria Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Microwave my meteorites? >>Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:52:03 -0600 >> >>Dear Maria; >>My neighbor is a white's detector salesman and a few years back he >>went to Odessa and hunted the field briefly in the 99 degree heat. >>His guide was none other than James Williams, Rocks from Space page >>136. >>Ron used the top of the line two piece deep penetrating unit >>White's had out at the time. The plan was to search 3-10 feet deep >>for items that the regular detector crowd had missed. Between the >>heat and the pipelines in the area The deep seeking unit did not >>produce any meteorites in the four hours of searching. Ron did >>find some real nice odessa's in Mr. Williams collection though. Ron >>felt with a better weather condition that he would have done much >>better but noted that Odessa is an old oil boom town and there is a >>great deal of metal around. Digging 10 foot holes for pipe thread >>protectors would not be productive so maybe the area would have to >>be a bit more primitive to have the deep penetrating radar be more >>su
Re: [meteorite-list] What great hobby!! + microwaves to detectmeteorites?
What was it that you found? Magnetite? That stuff frustrates me. I once found a piece of farly fine grained rock that stuck to a magnet and even looked like it had flowlines...but it turned out that it was dark all throughout and it had crystals. I might give up on the metal detector and start going places where I can just walk fast and keep my eyes on the ground. I never seem to find anything of interest with the detector and it takes me so long to cover even a small area thoroughly. I'll have to try that string dragging idea. I know you can get really powerful neodymium magnets on E-bay. If I tied a bunch of them to my belt loops as I walked that should easily pick up small pieces, although I'm sure I'd look like a total goof! Happy hunting! Graham ~~~~~~~~~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Maria Haas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:33 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What great hobby!! + microwaves to detectmeteorites? Dear Graham, Unfortunately, I am unable to swing a detector right now and haven't been able to for some time. All of my hunting is done by sight and I do have a telescoping magnet on a stick (thanks to Mark Bostick) and hard drive magnets on a string that I drag behind me as I walk. I think I'd be pretty frustrated if I dug for five minutes to reach a piece of scrap metal but I sure can't wait for the chance! About a month ago while I was out hunting I came across this curious little 63 gram stone slightly sticking out of the ground. When I got my trusty magnet near it it went "click" and my heart jumped. I had been taking artifact pictures and GPS coordinates all day so as luck would have it, I now only had two good batteries with me. I had to abandon an "in situ" picture but was able to get GPS coordinates before that died as well. I was at the backside of 500 acres so I stuck it in my pocket and pointed myself home. I must have taken 20 pictures of it on and off the scale before I headed twards the saw to window it. I pulled it back from the blade and had to remind myself about someday. Someday it'll be real and I'll be doing the chicken dance all over my basement. I have lightly discussed with another listmember about using GPR (Ground Penetrating Radar). Perhaps someone could offer some info on how beneficial that is in the field. Kind Regards, Maria From: "Graham Christensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Maria Haas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What great hobby!! + microwaves to detect meteorites? Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:07:27 -0600 Are you using a metal detector or just visual? I do both. I use a metal detector but at the same time I have a magnet on a short flexable stick on my belt so that if I see anything on the surface I can probe at it quickly and then return to sweeping with the detector. I hate it when the detector goes off and I dig for 5 minutes to find a pipe or something. I wonder if it's possible to use microwaves to detect meteorites? Conductive metal will backscatter microwaves and can be detected by an appropriate instrument (this is how radar works). Perhaps it's possible to send a beam of microwaves into the ground over a large area and see what comes back. If you use a fairly short wavelength you might be able to resolve images of what's under the ground. Short wavelength microwaves would probably be needed to detect a chondrite because long wavelengths would probably not couple to the metal very well and be reflected. An iron however should show up quite easily. The only problem with short wavelengths is that they are absorbed pretty quickly by water so they would have trouble penetrating wet ground. It would work great in a sandy desert though I'm sure. Just a thought Graham ~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Maria Haas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What great hobby!! Graham Christensen Wrote: btw, I went meteorite hunting today for the first time in a couple years! And I found...*drumroll*...scrap metal! Graham Maria Sheepishly Adds: I am so desperate to find "something" walking fields every single day looking for meteorites that I have started to fill my rock bag with scrap pieces of metal, miscellaneous junk, gum wrappers, fast food containers and the occasional bolt, screw and nail. While I may not be ridding the world of those pesky meteorites laying everywhere, I am providing some job security to our
[meteorite-list] I mean...
it's like the kind of impactite that Mark is talking about, but I haven't seen anything like what Jan has. That's really wierd. O.o Graham ~~~~~~~~~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Graham Christensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "MARK BOSTICK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What is it?? I'm pretty sure I have some of this meteor crater glass. A friend of mine visited the crater a couple years ago and he found a brown bubbly rock with small white chunks in it that weakly sticks to a magnet. Mark Bostick sent me a piece of monturaqui impactite to compare and they do seem quite similar except that the meteor crater specimen has smaller bubbles and isn't as shiny. There's a picture of it here: http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/impact.html (top left picture) ~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "MARK BOSTICK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What is it?? Elton noted: "Actually folks..there IS a glass impactite found at Meteor Crater. I have read the research long ago but not sure Iremember what it looks like. I even think HHN wrote about it." You are correct Elton, but the impactite looks like Monturique impactitewhich is also glass. when you melt just about any two or more rocks together you get glass. Not window glass, but glass. Michael is correct on it being burned trash. This was a bunch of it on the side of the storage hill a couple of years ago. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What is it??
I'm pretty sure I have some of this meteor crater glass. A friend of mine visited the crater a couple years ago and he found a brown bubbly rock with small white chunks in it that weakly sticks to a magnet. Mark Bostick sent me a piece of monturaqui impactite to compare and they do seem quite similar except that the meteor crater specimen has smaller bubbles and isn't as shiny. There's a picture of it here: http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/impact.html (top left picture) ~~~~~~~~~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "MARK BOSTICK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What is it?? Elton noted: "Actually folks..there IS a glass impactite found at Meteor Crater. I have read the research long ago but not sure Iremember what it looks like. I even think HHN wrote about it." You are correct Elton, but the impactite looks like Monturique impactitewhich is also glass. when you melt just about any two or more rocks together you get glass. Not window glass, but glass. Michael is correct on it being burned trash. This was a bunch of it on the side of the storage hill a couple of years ago. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What great hobby!! + microwaves to detect meteorites?
Are you using a metal detector or just visual? I do both. I use a metal detector but at the same time I have a magnet on a short flexable stick on my belt so that if I see anything on the surface I can probe at it quickly and then return to sweeping with the detector. I hate it when the detector goes off and I dig for 5 minutes to find a pipe or something. I wonder if it's possible to use microwaves to detect meteorites? Conductive metal will backscatter microwaves and can be detected by an appropriate instrument (this is how radar works). Perhaps it's possible to send a beam of microwaves into the ground over a large area and see what comes back. If you use a fairly short wavelength you might be able to resolve images of what's under the ground. Short wavelength microwaves would probably be needed to detect a chondrite because long wavelengths would probably not couple to the metal very well and be reflected. An iron however should show up quite easily. The only problem with short wavelengths is that they are absorbed pretty quickly by water so they would have trouble penetrating wet ground. It would work great in a sandy desert though I'm sure. Just a thought Graham ~~~~~~~~~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Maria Haas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What great hobby!! Graham Christensen Wrote: btw, I went meteorite hunting today for the first time in a couple years! And I found...*drumroll*...scrap metal! Graham Maria Sheepishly Adds: I am so desperate to find "something" walking fields every single day looking for meteorites that I have started to fill my rock bag with scrap pieces of metal, miscellaneous junk, gum wrappers, fast food containers and the occasional bolt, screw and nail. While I may not be ridding the world of those pesky meteorites laying everywhere, I am providing some job security to our garbage collection service employees. (Of course I look the metal stuff over really carefully one more time just in case space rocks could actually weather to look like one of those rusted old metal pop lids.) Sick. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] I take back what I said...
E-bay rules! I just won a 32.5 gram vaca muerta mesosiderite for 10.50 pounds which is like $20 US, and about $25 Canadian!! Thank you to everyone who replied to my original E-bay e-mail and gave me some useful info Graham ~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] E-bay frustrates me
I will be the high bidder on a meteorite for almost a week and no one else bids. I go to work thinking "Yay, only 2 more hours and I will have won that meteorite!!" and then in the last hour of the auction (usually while I'm at work and away from my computer) someone outbids me!!! And of course I don't have the money to bid high. It's just so frustrating to think you're going to win something and get your hopes up and then have it taken away from you!! Sorry, I just had to vent ~~~~~~~~~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What great hobby!!
There are a lot of good people on this list and this is a fascinating hobby with lots of new things to learn all the time but unfortunately some people get fighting and just mess it up for everyone else. I think some people just over react and take things way too seriously. There is no one on this list that I feel any kind of resentment towards and even if I have a disagreement with someone, I learn to put it behind me. I wish others on this list could do the same. I left this list for almost a year and was dissapointed to come back and see the very same people fighting! And definitely, threatening someone is absolutely uncalled for. btw, I went meteorite hunting today for the first time in a couple years! And I found...*drumroll*...scrap metal! Graham ~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Jan Bartels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 4:12 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] What great hobby!! Dear List, I just found out what a great hobby we all have. Collecting meteorites, talk about it with so many friends and read all these great messages here on the listfun!! Now i'm not such a wild type of person who wants to be involved with problems or all the nagging going on lately on this list but something has happened that really concerns me. I just read Steve Arnold has left the IMCA. Since i don't have any personal problems with Steve i contacted him and asked him what's going on. It seems someone is threaten him with bodily harm if things will continue the way they are. Someone who has "meteoritepolice" as his mailing adress is sending this message as it seems. Now this is really getting sick!! If all this is true where is this all going to? So many times i read the rubbish of others on this list and who are just getting away with it,even when they have been told to leave the list and/or the IMCA by so many members and still nothing happens. Now we start to use violence!!??sickreally...sick!! I know Steve has made mistakes. I have seen many others made so many more. For the real oneshappy collecting!! Jan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What great hobby!!
There are a lot of good people on this list and this is a fascinating hobby with lots of new things to learn all the time but unfortunately some people get fighting and just mess it up for everyone else. I think some people just over react and take things way too seriously. There is no one on this list that I feel any kind of resentment towards and even if I have a disagreement with someone, I learn to put it behind me. I wish others on this list could do the same. I left this list for almost a year and was dissapointed to come back and see the very same people fighting! And definitely, threatening someone is absolutely uncalled for. btw, I went meteorite hunting today for the first time in a couple years! And I found...*drumroll*...scrap metal! Graham ~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Jan Bartels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 4:12 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] What great hobby!! Dear List, I just found out what a great hobby we all have. Collecting meteorites, talk about it with so many friends and read all these great messages here on the listfun!! Now i'm not such a wild type of person who wants to be involved with problems or all the nagging going on lately on this list but something has happened that really concerns me. I just read Steve Arnold has left the IMCA. Since i don't have any personal problems with Steve i contacted him and asked him what's going on. It seems someone is threaten him with bodily harm if things will continue the way they are. Someone who has "meteoritepolice" as his mailing adress is sending this message as it seems. Now this is really getting sick!! If all this is true where is this all going to? So many times i read the rubbish of others on this list and who are just getting away with it,even when they have been told to leave the list and/or the IMCA by so many members and still nothing happens. Now we start to use violence!!??sickreally...sick!! I know Steve has made mistakes. I have seen many others made so many more. For the real oneshappy collecting!! Jan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology experts out there
Brother Bob, that is a fine specimen of probably exactly what I have and I'm glad to see I'm not the only one picking up every odd coloured rock and dragging it home. Thanks for showing that. "And here is an "in-situ" image showing where I found my green rock" Haha! If only! I can probably borrow someone's grinder maybe tomorrow or dig though some boxes and find my dremel tool to cut off a piece. I agree that it's hard to tell with a rough stone like that. Later this month a professor of martian geology at the University of Alberta is taking me on a tour of the meteorite collection there so I will take this rock along when I go and see what he thinks as well. "Wouldn't I be emabarassed if I was wrong, and my "wrong" wasn't?" Nope, I would imagine that you would be too busy being ecstatic about pulling off the impossible...again! Oh well, all is not lost. I DID find a chunk of garnet today :-) (at least I think that's what it is) http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/garnet.jpg Seeing as how it's 7 AM, I think it's about time I went to bed. Goodnight all and happy hunting! Green rock picker-upper 4 life, Graham ~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Robert Verish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:00 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology experts out there Hello Brother Graham and List, http://marzmeteorite.tripod.com/mars-rocks/2mars1not.jpg As you can tell from the above image, Brother Graham and I belong to the same fraternity - The Fraternal Order of Green Rock Picker-Uppers. And here is an "in-situ" image showing where I found my green rock: http://marzmeteorite.tripod.com/mars-rocks/MRF04996.jpg Actually, Graham, my story is much shorter than yours. I found my little shergo-not just last week, and only a few miles from my backyard. It was still sitting on top of my monitor when I read your message and saw your great looking image. It prompted me to share my image with you. And, as in your image, I placed a small slice of DaG 476 in front of my Mars-wannabe. For added effect, I placed a larger slice of the DaG 670 stone to the right of my m-wrong. As a rule, I don't "hazard a guess" about a rock-type based solely on an image. Too many times I've had to change my opinion about a rock-type after examining a cut surface. So, if you show me the inside of your rock, I'll show you the inside of my rock! ;-) It's true. I haven't cut my little rock, yet. And to be truthful, I haven't had it examined by an "expert", so I can't say with 100% certainty that my rock is a "shergo-not". Wouldn't I be emabarassed if I was wrong, and my "wrong" wasn't? Bob V. --- Original Message [meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology experts out there Graham Christensen voltage at telus.net Thu Apr 7 05:21:16 EDT 2005 Hello list I've had this rock sitting on my kitchen table since last year when I picked it up along the side of the road while out for a walk. It is a fairly smooth green rock with black bits in it and it looks somewhat like my DAG 476 shergottite but it's a slightly lighter shade of green. I have yet to grind an end off to see what the inside looks like but there are a couple chips out of it and it looks about the same on the inside with the green part being fine grained and the black bits are individual crystals. I doubt that it is meteoritic (there is no trace of fusion crust) but I was wondering if it might be similar to a shergottite but of terrestrial origin. Here is a pic of it: http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/dag476andunidentified.jpg The small slice in the forground is my DAG 476 and the big rock is of course the rock in question. I have been collecting rocks on and off in this area since I was a kid and I haven't seen anything like it but that doesn't mean much. I live in Alberta, Canada, where most of the rocks you find lying on the ground were brought down from various locations by the glaciers of the last ice age so it's kind of a potluck dinner of geology up here. I won't get my hopes up, but I certainly wouldn't mind copying Bob Verish and finding out I've been sitting on a mars meteorite for a year!! :-) Any comments are greatly appreciated Graham ~ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - April 7, 2005
How would that pit have been formed? By an impact in space or while it was in the atmosphere? I would have thought that any external traces of impacts in space would by erased by the ablation process. Graham ~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 4:11 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - April 7, 2005 http://www.spacerocksinc.com/April7.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology experts out there
Hello list I've had this rock sitting on my kitchen table since last year when I picked it up along the side of the road while out for a walk. It is a fairly smooth green rock with black bits in it and it looks somewhat like my DAG 476 shergottite but it's a slightly lighter shade of green. I have yet to grind an end off to see what the inside looks like but there are a couple chips out of it and it looks about the same on the inside with the green part being fine grained and the black bits are individual crystals. I doubt that it is meteoritic (there is no trace of fusion crust) but I was wondering if it might be similar to a shergottite but of terrestrial origin. Here is a pic of it: http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/dag476andunidentified.jpg The small slice in the forground is my DAG 476 and the big rock is of course the rock in question. I have been collecting rocks on and off in this area since I was a kid and I haven't seen anything like it but that doesn't mean much. I live in Alberta, Canada, where most of the rocks you find lying on the ground were brought down from various locations by the glaciers of the last ice age so it's kind of a potluck dinner of geology up here. I won't get my hopes up, but I certainly wouldn't mind copying Bob Verish and finding out I've been sitting on a mars meteorite for a year!! :-) Any comments are greatly appreciated Graham ~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Liquid water photographed on Mars
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050401.html APRIL FOOLS!!! ~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] An alternative origin of tektites
Really? I don't know a lot about tektites so I just assumed the guy would have done his research. What kind of emperical evidence do you have that refutes it? Interested in learning more, Graham ~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Charles O'Dale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] An alternative origin of tektites I had replied to the author of that piece of pseudoscience refuting all of his points. He answered once with more pseudoscience. I refuted his reply and have not heard from him since. The article was full of "it could have happened this way" without the empirical evidence to back it up. I had complained to the editors of the RASC journal regarding the lack of screening of their articles. Got lip service from them. I was shocked that a reputable journal from the RASC would publish an article that could be refuted so easily with empirical evidence. It showed a complete lack of scientific research on articles received. I can forward the word file of my correspondence to anyone who is interested. Cheers Charles O'Dale Meeting Chair Ottawa RASC http://www.ottawa.rasc.ca/astronomy/earth_craters/index.html Message: 8 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:00:33 -0700 From: "Graham Christensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [meteorite-list] An alternative origin of tektites To: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I read an article in the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada journal that said that the Earth once had a ring of tektites or a system of rings around it and when the supercontinent pangea formed, the earth's gravitational field became lop-sided and the tektite material in the ring ended up in an orbital resonance with pangea and the tektites formed a clump or "ring arc" that was directly over pangea at perigee. When pangea broke up, the resonance dissapeared and the ring arc's orbit began to decay The shape and distribution of the australasian tektite strewnfield and the ablasion characteristics of the tektites is consistent with a ring arc's orbit decaying and eventually bringing the material crashing to earth at a low angle. Furthermore, the tektites associated with the chesapeake bay crater may infact have been dragged down by the impactor's gravitational field as it passed through or near the rings and this may be the case with other tektite fields as well. I have the article here on paper but I can't find it on the internet. I'm not sure if this has been posted before but if anyone's interested I could type up the text and E-mail it to the list. ~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tektites from a Ring Arc (part 2)
and microtektites from their orbit and dispesed them in a southerly direction before impacting on the Earth's surface. Since the ring arc was in an equatorial orbit, the strewn field would extend north of the equator and converge towards the impact crater. The distribution of the tektites in the Ivory Coast field in relation to the Bosumtwi crater also gives credence to this proposition. In this case, the impactor moved from west to east, passing the ring arc along the equator, with the resulting tektite field stretching west of the crater in an equatorial direction; tektites in the existing field have not been found east of the crater. Microtektites distribution in the Atlantic Ocean also shows a large strewn field west of the Botsumtwi crater along the equator. In the Central European field the distribution again is asymmetrical in relation to the relevant crater; the tektite strewn field is found east of the crater, and none are found towards the west, indicating that the passage of the impactor within the gravitational domain of the ring arc was from southeast to northwest. Unlike the tektites in the other two fields mentioned here, these tektites are found in close vicinity to the crater, about 200 km east, and constitute a small strewn field in mass and distribution (O'Keefe 1976). These three fields mostly contain splash-form tektites and microtektites, which are the main components of the proposed ring cluster. In this impacter scenario, the entrained particles in the ring arc did not undergo natural decay through the Earth's atmosphere as in the case of the Australasion tektites. Thus, this model explains the absence of aerodynamically ablated tektites and also the scarcity of layered tektites in these three strewn fields. It is to be noted that these passing bolides would have gravitationally drawn away less than 1% of the total mass of the ring arc. 7. AGES OF TEKTITE STREWN FIELDS AND COSMIC-RAY EXPOSURE The ages of tektites and microtektites since arrival at the Earth's surface have been determined by potassiu-argon (K-Ar) and fission-track analysis. The former yields an age since the tektites were thoroughly outgassed by heating and the latter gives a time since the latest heating episode. During the passage of the tektites through the Earth's atmosphere, friction with atmospheric gas molecules produced strong heating, which would result in a partial melting and degassing of argon. Evidence of such melting and melt flow is seen in tekties. Considering the small unit sizes of tektites, both in mass and diameter, atmospheric heating could produce sufficient heat for complete degassing of argon and thus reset the K-Ar clock and the fission tracks. Thus the age-on-earth of tektites and microtektites determined by these methods is the same as the statigraphic age of the geological formations on which the tekties are found. As expected, the impact craters associated with the North American, Central European, and the Ivory Coast strewn fields also have the same ages of formation as the respective tektites. It is known that the primary cosmic-ray signatures seen in meteorites are absent in tektites (O'Keefe 1976). This observation could be related to the fact that the orbiting tektite cluster was enveloped within Earth's magnetic field. The paths followed by primary cosmic rays are strongly influenced by the Earth's magnetic field. Depending on their mass, speed, direction of travel, and field strength, they can be deflected or follow spiral convoluted paths as they descend towards lower altitudes. Thus the Earth's magnetic field attenuates the energy of incoming particles and also results in energy-cut-off values that increase towards low lattitudes. The pedominance of low-energy particles and the minimum cosmic-ray intensity at the magnetic equator attest to this shielding influence of the Earth's magnetic field (Friedlander 1989). Thus, it is seen that tektites and microtektites orbiting along the equator would not have been exposed to high-energy cosmic rays such as those observed in meteoroids in interplanetary space. Thus, the primary cosmic-ray encouners in space that cause nuclear spallation reactions, resulting in radioactive isotopes, or nuclei fissions yielding fission tracks, are not found in tektites. CONCLUSION As described in this paper, the ring arc model provides a framework to scientifically explain the well-known characteristics of tektites and their strewn fields. An orbiting ring arc provides explanations for the geographic distributions, morphology, and sculptures of tektites. Aggregation into a ring also furnishes the required conditions for volatile loss and homogenization. The outer ring cluster can act as well as a souce for the formation of the three fields related to the Australasian. A special feature of this model is that the terrestrial ring system provides a rationale for the existance of a unique family of natural glass
[meteorite-list] Tektites from a Ring Arc (part 1)
dissipation of Pangaea, however, the geoid high gradually declined, the resonant lock was lost, and the orbit of the ring arc decayed at a slow rate due to tidal forces. Nevertheless, as shown above, the cluster of tektites and microtektites would have maintained its configuration until it entered the Earth's atmosphere. ~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] An alternative origin of tektites
Wow...I never heard about that 1913 event. I wonder if there could be more stuff floating around up there. Would something the size of a tektite be detectable by ground based radar? I typed up the article and have tried sending it to the list 9 times now and it hasn't gone through. The article is from the summer of 2004. Graham ~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Sterling K. Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Graham Christensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] An alternative origin of tektites Hi, Graham, List. The notion derives from the curious history of the "Chant Trace." On February 9, 1913, there were a huge rash of fireball reports stretching from far Western Canada (Regina) across to upper New York state and New York City itself. The numbers of reports were in the hundreds or thousands, and they were of "trains" of multiple fireballs that passed overhead, followed by more "trains" of multiple fireballs, followed by more "trains" of multiple fireballs, a show lasting 10-15 minutes at a time. This is highly unusual, to put it mildly. A Canadian astronomer named Chant investigated it at length and was able to plot a great circle path for these events and to determine that the reports were chronologically compatible, that is, in correct sequence. He concluded that there actually had been a "train" of hundreds of fireballs chasing themselves across North America. He even found reports from ships at sea, as far away as the South Atlantic off Brazil, that matched up. He published his results in the Journal of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada in 1913, but he never explained what would cause such a remarkable event. It is now referred to as the "Chant Trace." In the 1950's, John O'Keefe jumped on the obvious conclusion (which hopefully the sharp ones among us have already guessed) that the only way to account for this was the decay of an object from low earth orbit! He conducted a search of 8,000 local newspapers across the US and Canada for reports of such fireball trains and plotted the results on the map. He discovered that there TWO stripes of fireball trains, parallel to each other but with the second one displaced to the south. Whatever the decaying object was, it survived through TWO passes of the Earth's atmosphere. This argues a substantial object, big, massing millions of pounds, caught in an gravitationally bound geocentric orbit! Now, it may have been a "fresh" capture, an object that approaches the Earth at low encounter velocities, glazes the atmosphere, is captured, and immediately decays and breaks up, in which the Earth has a second "moon" for a couple of hours. OR, it could be the final moments of a second "moon" that has been in place, undetected, for thousands or millions of years. An object of a few hundred meters diameter would never have been detected directly by XIXth century astronomy. But there are all those anomalous "transit" events from XIXth century astronomers, you know, often touted as proof of the discovery of a new planet, intra-Mercurian. There is a famous case of such a detection during a solar eclipse which didn't pan out, and so forth. Check discoveries of "Vulcan." (No, not that Vulcan, Trekites!) O'Keefe coined the term "Cyrillids" for such objects, but it never caught on. He proposed that the decay of short term natural satellites of a silicate composition was the source of tektites, that the Earth had had four such "moons" in the last 35 million years, each one creating a tektite strewn field in its final decay, a perfectly good dynamic conclusion, but, you know, folks didn't take to the notion of a lot of extra moons! The idea was revived in the past 20 years by somebody whose name I can't remember, who threw in the notion of rings, also dynamically possible. That's probably the article you saw. I recall a popular article from the mid-80's that was illustrated with an artist's rendering of a tropical island night scene looking out over the ocean with the Earth's Rings arcing across the sky! Personally, I like it. Why should Saturn have all the fun? Sterling Webb Graham Christensen wrote: I read an article in the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada journal that said that the Earth once had a ring of tektites or a system of rings around it and when the supercontinent pangea formed, the earth's gravitational field became lop-sided and the tektite material in the ring ended up in an orbital resona
[meteorite-list] An alternative origin of tektites
I read an article in the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada journal that said that the Earth once had a ring of tektites or a system of rings around it and when the supercontinent pangea formed, the earth's gravitational field became lop-sided and the tektite material in the ring ended up in an orbital resonance with pangea and the tektites formed a clump or "ring arc" that was directly over pangea at perigee. When pangea broke up, the resonance dissapeared and the ring arc's orbit began to decay The shape and distribution of the australasian tektite strewnfield and the ablasion characteristics of the tektites is consistent with a ring arc's orbit decaying and eventually bringing the material crashing to earth at a low angle. Furthermore, the tektites associated with the chesapeake bay crater may infact have been dragged down by the impactor's gravitational field as it passed through or near the rings and this may be the case with other tektite fields as well. I have the article here on paper but I can't find it on the internet. I'm not sure if this has been posted before but if anyone's interested I could type up the text and E-mail it to the list. ~~~~~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] GRR!! Why aren't my E-mails getting through?!
I've sent 6 E-mails in a row now that haven't gotten through. The first one was a week ago. WHAT IS GOING ON!? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Crater maker
I would think that larger meteorites would have a larger ratio of crater:impactor size because they have a lower surface area to volume ratio so they would impact with a higher final velocity. So to make a crater, I'm sure you'd need an impactor much larger than 3 feet as the 10 to 1 ratio would suggest, in fact a 3 foot impactor would most likely lose all of its cosmic velocity and impact at terminal velocity. Isn't the Hoba meteorite something like 9 feet long? Graham ~~~~~~~~~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Michael L Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite List" Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Crater maker Thanks to all who responded. Other than the 10 to 1 ratio, I pretty much thought the same as what most people stated. Here is what I did respond with: -- One "formula" in which I hold very little belief, is a ratio of 10 times the diameter of the impactor. This question has far to many variables, such as speed of meteorite upon contact, type of soil and composition of meteorite (ie, stone or Iron), angle of trajectory, etc. In addition, the K-T event produced a crater (as indicated by hypercompacted quartz) with a diameter of 500 miles - but the impactor is estimated at "only" 6 miles in diameter - the ol' 10 to one ratio implies there should have "only" been a crater 60 miles in diameter. Best wishes, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented chondrules?
That's true, if it were simply a case of the chondrules being more pliable and there being more weight above them, then the degree of orientation should increase with increasing petrologic grade. If Mark is right then the effect should be more common in shocked and brecciated meteorites. Graham - Original Message - From: "mark ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 2:37 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Oriented chondrules? Darren and list, I have seen Some pieces of NWA 869 that have similar oriented Chondrules, (even though some people have classified it as a 3.8), maybe its due to some sort of early impact deformation, otherwise you would you not expect the chondrules to be a lot more indistinct? ... Interesting thread this! Best, Mark Ford -Original Message- From: Graham Christensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 8:31 AM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented chondrules? Hi Darren Chondritic meteorites come from asteroids that aren't quite large enough to have completely melted, but usually still large enough to cause some thermal alteration. The heat that was present might have made the chondrules sufficiently pliable that they squished into oval shapes due to the downward pressure from the material that was above it in its parent asteroid. Or, possibly the chondrules were already elongated but the pressure from above caused them to settle that way while the matrix was still soft. Just throwing out ideas, Graham ~~~~~~~~~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Darren Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:24 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Oriented chondrules? (Sorry, last question of the night.) Anyone know anything about "oriented" chondrules in a meteorite? I was looking at the scan of that condrite that I had shown in the question about polishing (thanks to all who gave advise, by the way) and noticed that, for objects in the matrix that are oblong, the long axises of a large percentage of them seem to be aligned in a prefered direction rather than point in random directions. Here is the base image: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/base_image.jpg And one with arrows added to a few of the larger objects. Many other chondrules seem to tend to be aligned in the same direction. http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/flow_direction.jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented chondrules?
Hi Darren Chondritic meteorites come from asteroids that aren't quite large enough to have completely melted, but usually still large enough to cause some thermal alteration. The heat that was present might have made the chondrules sufficiently pliable that they squished into oval shapes due to the downward pressure from the material that was above it in its parent asteroid. Or, possibly the chondrules were already elongated but the pressure from above caused them to settle that way while the matrix was still soft. Just throwing out ideas, Graham ~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Darren Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:24 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Oriented chondrules? (Sorry, last question of the night.) Anyone know anything about "oriented" chondrules in a meteorite? I was looking at the scan of that condrite that I had shown in the question about polishing (thanks to all who gave advise, by the way) and noticed that, for objects in the matrix that are oblong, the long axises of a large percentage of them seem to be aligned in a prefered direction rather than point in random directions. Here is the base image: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/base_image.jpg And one with arrows added to a few of the larger objects. Many other chondrules seem to tend to be aligned in the same direction. http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/flow_direction.jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] what is your favorite iron??
Is that technically a meteorite? I mean doesn't a meteorite, by deffinition, have to fall to earth? I would have to say my favorite is Sikhote-Alin...but the Mars one is pretty cool, although I suspect it won't be in my collection any time soon :( Graham - Original Message - From: "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] what is your favorite iron?? what is your favorite iron meteorite. That's easy. The iron meteorite the Mars rover found on Mars. Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite with holes?!?
It looks to me like the holes are just where chondrules have fallen out of the matrix. From what I understand, vesicles form by gas being "boiled out" of liquid rock. That's why they've only been found in a eucrite, because it's an igneous rock. It's wierd that that is the only one that looks like that though. Perhaps a loose matrix or something? ~~~~~~~~~ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Jeff Kuyken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 5:03 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite with holes?!? > G'day List, > > Just received what looks like an ordinary chondrite, but the weird thing is > that it is loaded with holes in the surface. The 37g piece has 6 sides of > which every one has some type of hole. They are quite prolific throughout > the whole stone and vary widely in size. I've created a quick page at the > address below if anyone is interested in taking a look. I will probably > slice it at some stage to check out the interior and will post more photos > at that stage. I'd be interested in hearing any comments or theories on this > one as this is the first meteorite I've personally seen with so many holes. > > http://www.meteoritesaustralia.com/features/holes.html > > Cheers, > > Jeff Kuyken > I.M.C.A. #3085 > www.meteorites.com.au > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] re: Spanish fireball also seen from north of Portugal
Is there anywhere I can get this video that is in any format OTHER THAN RealPlayer? Everytime I try to play one on my computer I get an error message that says "This document is not a RealAudio document" and when I go to the website, I'm told I have to pay to get the thing to play it. thanks Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter MSN messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Marco Langbroek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "meteorite list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 1:10 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] re: Spanish fireball also seen from north of Portugal > From the Portuguese newspaper Jose forwarded: > > > A comet's trail: Scientifically, this Sunday's phenomena is predictable, > > since every year, at the beginning of January, the terrestrial orbit > crosses > > through a > > zone of cosmic particles which give origin to a meteorite shower. > > This erroneously assumes that this fireball belonged to the Quadrantid > meteor stream, which peaks January 4th annually. That is impossible however, > given the direction of travel of the fireball in the Leon video. We now have > an item on it (with the video - and in English) on our DMS website > (http://www.dmsweb.org) pointing out why it cannot be a Quadrantid (and why > the NW-SE trajectory mentioned in the press must be incorrect). > > - Marco > > -- > Marco Langbroek > Dutch Meteor Society > Leiden, the Netherlands > 52.15896 N, 4.48884 E (WGS 84) > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > website: http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek > weblog: http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek/iss_log.html > -- > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Amazing SA's on ebay? Or not????
Hmm, I must be tired. I had bid on BOTH of them before I read your post and I didn't even notice that they were the same :-S Oh well, I got outbid anyways. Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter MSN messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Tom aka James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:58 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Amazing SA's on ebay? Or not > Hello List, and Ivan if your out there! This is amazing, two SA's that are > identical except one is 474g's and the other 715g's! Either they are twins > or Finnet put the wrong pictures on. I am betting one auction winners going > to be very unhappy!!! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2208200198 > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2208200278 > > > Thanks, Tom > Peregrineflier <>< > Yea, that's right, > The proudest member of the IMCA # 6168 > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sedimentary Meteorite?
Actually that's a REAL meteorite. Dean Bessey's selling it and I've bought some from him before. He was on this list for a while. DEAN!! You out there?? Anyways, the first sedimentary meteorite was found by a guy named Mohammed Yousef along with some mercurian and venusian meteorites. I think he had one with fossilized coral in it too. What ever happened to him? I always used to read his posts for a good laugh. Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter MSN messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:58 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sedimentary Meteorite? > Hello List, > > Another list member asked if we had seen a meteorite like this before. > Check this out, it looks like the world's first sedimentary meteorite or it > could be just another Galaxy meteorite delaminating at the glue seams: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2207827745&category=3239 > > All the best, > > Adam > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] "Nantan" tektite on ebay
Hey everyone, This is the kind of meteorwrong seller that I don't mind. It was an honest mistake and he'll fix it as soon as possible. Finally a happy ending to one of these stories :-) Pascal Barre wrote: >Thank you for your email!>I will look at it, if it's true I will removed form the sale...>Thank you very much for your comments!>>Best regards,>>Pascal Barre>Vice president Wei Sino-export>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://www.weisino-export.com/ Oh and for anyone interested, I have just completely re-made my collection page. I have photos of every specimen now: http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/collection.html Graham Christensen[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter MSN messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse
Had a great view from up here in Canada, but of course I froze my @$$ off. The moon looked kind of erie in the sky during totality, really dim and kind of orangy. Looked great in the scope. And for those of you who had bad weather, I got some pics: http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/eclipse1.jpg http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/eclipse2.jpg http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/eclipse3.jpg http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/eclipse4.jpg http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/eclipse5.jpg http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/eclipse6.jpg http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/eclipse7.jpg Graham Christensen[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter MSN messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse Rainy and cold (OK...actually just 50F) here in DallasWe were supposed to have a public star party tonight, but rain has a way of changing one's plans.Craig
Re: [meteorite-list] H-chondrite or mesosiderite?
Come on. No one even willing to guess?? Any help would be greatly appreciated. http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/mesomaybe.jpg The original post (which I sent out almost a week ago and got no reply) is below Graham Christensen[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter MSN messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Graham Christensen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 11:08 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] H-chondrite or mesosiderite? Question for all you experts at visual assesments... I got this one meteorite in a bag of unclassified NWAs. I thought it was an H-chondrite but it doesn't seem to have much for chondrules and it has more metal than most chondrites I've seen and I was wondering if it could possibly be a mesosiderite? (I posted something about this a lng time ago but I didn't have a photo then) Anyways, here's the pic: http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/mesomaybe.jpg Pardon the blurryness, I couldn't seem to get my camera to focus on it. Thanks in advance Graham Christensen[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter MSN messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[meteorite-list] H-chondrite or mesosiderite?
Question for all you experts at visual assesments... I got this one meteorite in a bag of unclassified NWAs. I thought it was an H-chondrite but it doesn't seem to have much for chondrules and it has more metal than most chondrites I've seen and I was wondering if it could possibly be a mesosiderite? (I posted something about this a lng time ago but I didn't have a photo then) Anyways, here's the pic: http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/mesomaybe.jpg Pardon the blurryness, I couldn't seem to get my camera to focus on it. Thanks in advance Graham Christensen[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter MSN messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[meteorite-list] Cluster of craters on Mars caused by falling ejecta
Hello list, I found this interesting article on astronomy.com: http://www.astronomy.com/Content/Dynamic/Articles/000/000/001/264ymrye.asp I know I haven't posted in ages. I'm not dead, I've just been busy. :) Graham ******** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Contest #6 - FREE NWA869
Hi Mark, What about a drawing contest? Everyone could send in a picture of what they think a meteorite fall would look like drawn in paint or some other graphics program. This might be a good one for people who get writers block. :) Graham Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter >From: "Mark Bostick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Contest #6 - FREE NWA869 >Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 17:20:11 -0500 > >Hello All, > >As you can guess by the titleits Meteorite Contest #6. > > >The contest > >Come up with a contest ideal for me...for Meteorite Contest #7. Something >anyone can enter reguardless of collection size or knowledge level >preferrably. > >I will end this contest on monday. E-mail entries to the list please. > >The prize... > >A 98.8 gram NWA869 individual with some crust. Everybody who enters will >at least recieve an NWA869 micromount. Free shipping to all. > >Thanks, Mark Bostick "The Big Collector" _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Photos of my collection
Hi everybody, I know I haven't posted in a while. I've been really busy lately and I haven't been keeping up. For all of you who like looking at pictures I just finished putting a bunch of photos of my collection on my website. I finally got them scanned. They are at: http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/collect.html I was using a scanner so they may not be the best quality but you get an idea of what they look like. It might crash because I only have a limited "transfer rate" and it temporarily goes offline sometimes. I don't have a photo yet of my new CR2 that I got from Simon de Boer. It has armoured chondrules that I can stare at for hours! It's really cool. ******** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite Website!
Hey Jeff, I checked out your web site and it looks really good. It's easy to navigate and the pictures are great, what did you take them with? I look forward to seeing the updates. Good work :) Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter >From: "Jeff Kuyken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Meteorite List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite Website! >Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 13:31:03 +1000 > >G'day Everyone, > >Just letting you know that I've put together a small meteorite website. >I'll >be selling a few bits and pieces from my collection as I update. I'm going >to pass on the pieces at about the same price as they cost me for someone >else to enjoy. I'll be quite regularly updating the site as new specimens >become available. > >I've also decided to include a Monthly Favourite because there's a great >little meteorite I've obtained several pieces of which I think is really >cool. Take a look. I'll update this page every 3-4 weeks as I've got some >other pieces which are great too. I think it's good to see different things >you may not have seen before and share the meteorite collecting experience >with others who enjoy it too. > >It's taken me a while to put together as only a month or two ago I knew >nothing about building a website. So it's just small and simple at the >moment but will grow. > >The address is: > >www.meteoritesaustralia.com > >Thanks for reading, > >Jeff Kuyken >I.M.C.A. #3085 > > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Possible mesosiderite
Hello list, I mentioned in another post that I had what looked like a mesosiderite in a batch of NWAs that I got from Simon de Boer. It had what looked like chondrules so I assumed it was just an H-chondrite. Well, I think I was wrong. The meteorite is light brown with metal throughout it (maybe 40% metal) and it has a few roundish pieces of some darker brown mineral and it has some weathered fusion crust on one side. I did an image search at google.com and found this image of the Vaca Muerta mesosiderite: http://www.concentric.net/~Farmerm/images/vaca.jpg It's from Mike F's old site, hope you don't mind Mike. This looks almost exactly like mine but mine is a bit more brown (then again, it could be the lighting). I know someone with a scanner and I am planning to try using it to photograph my collection. When I get an image I'll post it. Just breaking an awkward silence. :) ******** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Man Hooked On Meteorites
>Now, Johnson can't get enough of meteorites; he's hooked on them. I think we all know what that feels like, I sure do. :) Bye the way, for all interested in knowing, I have 36 meteorites now! I had 5 at the beginning of January, of this year. Thanks again to all of you who have helped me get my collection started and answered my many questions. This is really a fascinating hobby and I am glad I am a part of it. **** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter >From: Ron Baalke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Meteorite Mailing List) >Subject: [meteorite-list] Man Hooked On Meteorites >Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 21:47:28 -0700 (PDT) > > > >http://augustachronicle.com/stories/041402/tec_UK2508-1.shtml > >Man hooked on visitors from outer space > >Associated Press >April 14, 2002 > >COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - About 10 years ago, Larry Johnson was conducting >a >whale-watching tour on a small island off Baja California when he caught a >glimpse of a rock that looked, well, different. > >It was a different color, much darker than other rocks he'd seen. And it >had >odd grooves in it. He picked it up, placed it in his pocket and brought it >back to his home in Monument, where he stashed it away and promptly forgot >about it. > >Then, last year, he came across the rock while he was doing some spring >cleaning. He looked at it again. Touched it. Marveled over how unusual it >was. > >On the advice of a friend, he sent it off to a lab at the University of >California at Los Angeles. It turns out Johnson had rock-solid instincts: >He'd stumbled across a meteorite, a visitor from outer space, more commonly >known as a shooting star. > >Now, Johnson can't get enough of meteorites; he's hooked on them. His >upstairs office at his house in Monument, Colo., is filled with them, and >he >carries some of them wherever he goes. > >At last count, he had close to a dozen kinds. > >"It's amazing," says Johnson, 63. "What you're holding in your hand there >is >more than 4 billion years old. It's about as old as the sun. When you just >stop to think about it for a second, it's incredible." > >Many of the meteorites he has amassed have come from collectors; he's >picked >up others at the annual Tucson Gem Show held every February in Arizona. > >If he can sell some of them, he does. > >If he can trade some of them, so be it. > >But Johnson insists he's not in it for the money - though some meteorites >can fetch as much as $1,000 a gram, depending on where they came from. > >No, Johnson just likes to collect them. In fact, as you read this, he's >searching for more meteorites off the coast of Baja California, sailing >from >island to island. > >His method is relatively simple: He uses a cane with a magnet attached to >the end of it. If it's a meteorite, it's going to attract the magnet, >because just about all meteorites are made of either iron, stony iron or >nickel-iron. > >For someone who loves meteorites, there are few better places to live than >Colorado. The Centennial State ranks fourth in the overall number of >meteorites - 81 - found in the United States since the late 1800s, when >they >were first documented. Only Texas, Kansas and New Mexico have recorded more >finds, according to Matt Morgan, a geologist for Colorado's Geological >Survey and author of "The Handbook of Colorado Meteorites." > >"Look up on any clear evening and you may be lucky enough to see a shooting >star blaze across the sky," says Morgan. > >Most meteorites hail from the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, >Morgan >says. The top three locations where meteorites are most likely to be found, >according to Morgan, are North Africa (especially the Sahara Desert), >Antarctica and Australia. > >Wherever they fall, meteors have long fascinated humans and sparked >creative >tales about their origins. Thousands of years ago, people saw meteors fall >from the sky and believed they were the work of the gods. Ancient Romans >worshipped them as "stones from heaven," according to Hugh Carman, in his >book, "Collecting Meteorites." > >Still, as late as the 17th century, scientists generally pooh-poohed the >idea of rocks falling from the sky, until April 26, 1803, when a meteor >shower occurred in broad daylight in France. > >Today, scientists estimate that 500 meteorites of all shapes and sizes fall >to Earth each year. > >Then, it's up to the Meteoritical Society, an international organization of >sci
[meteorite-list] Classifying meteorites. HELP!
Hello list, I haven't posted in a while, I have been busy with school work and I just got my report card (81% in physics :). I just got a whole bunch of unidentified meteorites from Northwest Africa that were sent to me by Simon de Boer (Thanks again Simon :) and I want to try classifying them. I need suggestions/tips/general rules about how to identify them. I am pretty sure they are all ordinary chondrites, they all have metal flake and chondrules except for a few badly weathered ones. Are there any keys for meteorites like there are for identifying insects and plants? Many of them don't look like any of the ones in my collection and photos on the internet don't show the fine details so I really have nothing to compare them to. I have some guesses on some of them but I would rather go about this scientifically. One of them has a few giant chondrules or inclusions in it. And one has so much metal in it it almost looks like a mesosiderite but with chondrules. A few of them have armoured chondrules, those are really neat. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. ******** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] More on photographs
Hello list, I sent an E-mail to Alan Hildebrand with an edited version of that Oct. 14 fireball which includes the copyright info (I added it as text in paint and converted it to jpg). He thinks it would be alright to post it once I get permission from Brad Gledhill, the original photographer. I have sent him an E-mail with the new image attached to it asking for permission to use it on my site. I await his reply. I just thought I would fill you all in in case you were curious. I really want to put this photo on my site but WHAT A HEADACHE! Anyway, for all interested, I now have photos of me on one of my meteorite hunting trips to Birch Lake, Alberta. A friend of mine took them and scanned them on his scanner at work. There are thumbnailed images are at: http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/rechunts.html Apperantly geocities only gives you a limited amount of "data transfer" so when too many people visit my site they throw a hissy fit and deactivate my site, another headache. They did that yesterday. If it happens again you can just wait about an hour and it should be back up. I also have an image of my biggest meteorite (Copied from Dean Bessey's site before I bought it, hope you don't mind Dean.) And one of a tektite I bought from Eric Twelker. (I hope that is OK Eric, if you are on the list.) I hope this doesn't infringe on any copyrights, I checked and there weren't any notes on the images and since I now own the specimens I thought it was OK. But all this Brad Gledhill photo stuff has me treading lightly. ************ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] IMPORTANT! I messed up
Umm...please don't do that Michael. I don't want to get in any more sh#t than I already am. It's all patched up now, no worries. ******** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter >From: "Michael Casper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Graham Christensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMPORTANT! I messed up >Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:32:27 -0500 > >Hi Graham! > > I love that image and plan to put it on every computer's wallpaper that >I can! Please thank Hilderplomp for a wonderful opportunity! > > xoxoxo, MC > > >- Original Message - >From: Graham Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 7:49 PM >Subject: [meteorite-list] IMPORTANT! I messed up > > > > Hello list, > > Yesterday I sent an E-mail about an image I put on my site. I just got >an > > E-mail from Alan Hildebrand saying that it is copyrighted. I had >downloaded > > the full image onto my computer to use in a screensaver. The image was >too > > big so I edited it in paint to only show the fireball. Later, I >converted > > the bmp to a jpg and put it on my website not realizing that it was > > copyrighted. I have removed the image from my site and sent an appology >to > > Alan Hildebrand. The original image was taken by Brad Gledhill and can >be > > viewed IN FULL on the University of Calgary website at: > > http://www.fp.ucalgary.ca/unicomm/news/Nov_01/meteor_1.htm > > > > If you have downloaded the image that was on my site onto your computer > > please delete it as it does not give the proper credit to Mr. Gledhill. > > > > Gee, I have really made an ass of myself. > > > > Graham Christensen > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter > > > > > > _ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] IMPORTANT! I messed up
Hello list, Yesterday I sent an E-mail about an image I put on my site. I just got an E-mail from Alan Hildebrand saying that it is copyrighted. I had downloaded the full image onto my computer to use in a screensaver. The image was too big so I edited it in paint to only show the fireball. Later, I converted the bmp to a jpg and put it on my website not realizing that it was copyrighted. I have removed the image from my site and sent an appology to Alan Hildebrand. The original image was taken by Brad Gledhill and can be viewed IN FULL on the University of Calgary website at: http://www.fp.ucalgary.ca/unicomm/news/Nov_01/meteor_1.htm If you have downloaded the image that was on my site onto your computer please delete it as it does not give the proper credit to Mr. Gledhill. Gee, I have really made an ass of myself. Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Photo of Oct. 14 fireball over Canadian rockies
Hello list, For those of you who haven't seen it yet, there is a really cool pic of the Oct. 14 fireball over the Canadian rockies. I put it on my site, go to: http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/recfalls.html You can click on the image to see the full sized version. It's interesting because it is a daylight fireball so you can see the smoke train really well. And the detail is pretty good. The way that the tail seems to be broken up is similar to the peekskill fireball. And if you haven't seen the peekskill fireball movie yet: http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/meteors/fireball.mpg Also, I recently got an 7.17 allende endpiece from Michael farmer and it is really cool! I love the fusion crust. ******** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New stuff from Mark Bostick
Hello list, I have been reading "Meteorites" by Alain Carion and it is pretty good. It is fairly general and really compact. It has quite a bit on the historic and famous falls like Ensisheim. I haven't finished reading it yet, too much homework :( I also got that impactite and eucrite. THANKS MARK. I can see why vesta is the brightest asteroid even though it is not the largest. It is the brightest stone meteorite in my collection, it's light greyish-white. Ceres is C-type and made of carbonaceous chondrite. I am getting an Allende soon in the mail from Michael Farmer so I can compare them. This is so cool, It's like I'm building a mini asteroid belt in my room :) ************ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New largest meteorite (joke)
Hey list, The Hoba meteorite has just been pushed to second place. Check this out: http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/airwaste/wm/recycle/Buy/Grabs/Meteor.jpg This one is not in english but it is still funny: http://www.astrofili.org/~vignette/immagini/fumetti/meteorite.jpg Thought you guys might like that. :) Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor crater impactite? THANK YOU!!
I would be happy to, I have never been to a crater before so it sounds like fun. I might have a chance to search it in the summer if it is nearby. Does anyone have a good map of the area showing where the crater is, roads, nearby towns, where the 'meteorites' are found etc? ******** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter >From: Tracy Latimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Graham Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor crater impactite? THANK YOU!! >Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:59:43 -1000 (HST) > >If you are close enough, maybe you can go up and snoop around the Eagle >Butte astrobleme and see if you can find any bits of the "Eagle Butte >Meteorite" for yourself and help us resolve the current raging controversy >:-) At any rate, I'd bet you'll find some nice meteorwrongs... > >Tracy Latimer > _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor crater impactite? THANK YOU!!
Hi Mark, Wow!! Thank you very much!!! I can't beleive the generousity of you and other list members. I am proud to have a hobby in which the people have such big hearts. I only hope that when I grow up I can be like many of you :) (and not like that woman that is being such a jerk to Matteo). My address is: 5702 43A St. Vegreville, Alberta, Canada T9C 1E3 By the way, I have a metal detector, powerful magnet and all that stuff for hunting for meteorites. If I ever find one I will send a some big chunks to you, Michael Casper and Michael Farmer. Thanks again. Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter >From: "MARK BOSTICK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor crater impactite? >Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 06:33:09 -0600 > > >Hello Graham! > >Your description sounds like an Arizona impactite to me. Send me your >address and I will send you a free little Monturaqui impactite so you can >compare them. Since I missed the bandwagon to send you free stuff:-) >I will also include a little NWA encrite and Carion's new Meteorite book, >signed by Carion. It is nice to see people with your interest and I >applaud Farmer and Casper sending you the free little lots. Wow, that was >weired I said a positive sentence with Farmer and Casper both in it...:-) > >I think somehow you have became the underdog we are all secretly rooting >for. > >Mark Bostick "The Big Collector" >- Original Message - >From: Graham Christensen >Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:53 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteor crater impactite? > >Hello list, >A friend of mine just returned from meteor crater (Wish I were there) and >he >brought me a very interesting rock that he found about 1/2 Km from the rim >of the crater. It is pourus like lava but it seems denser than most lava >that I have seen. I can't give you an exact weight and density because I >don't have a scale for small weights. It is dark brownish-red and it has >globs of sand fused to it. When I looked at the fused sand with my 10x >magnifier I noticed that the sand grains are partly melted into each other. >It looks like it has chips and pieces of small, light rock in it. Could >these be fragments of limestone that were propelled out of the forming >crater? Also, I can pick up the rock with a powerful magnet but it doesn't >stick as strongly as an entire meteorite so I think it might be some melted >meteorite that was mixed with the rock on impact. Is this an impactite? He >brought other rocks from the same area but none of them stick to a magnet >or >look melted. I don't know much about impactite so any information would be >greatly appreciated. I am sorry that I can't give you an image but I don't >have a digital camera yet. I don't have much money right now and the money >I >do have is going towards a eucrite. > >By the way, anyone got a good offer on eucrite? I won't be able to buy any >now because I don't have much money but maybe in a month or so I will. I >don't have any achondrite at all in my collection yet and I thought eucrite >is fairly cheap so I will get some. > >Thanks > >Graham Christensen >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter > > > > > >_ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteor crater impactite?
Hello list, A friend of mine just returned from meteor crater (Wish I were there) and he brought me a very interesting rock that he found about 1/2 Km from the rim of the crater. It is pourus like lava but it seems denser than most lava that I have seen. I can't give you an exact weight and density because I don't have a scale for small weights. It is dark brownish-red and it has globs of sand fused to it. When I looked at the fused sand with my 10x magnifier I noticed that the sand grains are partly melted into each other. It looks like it has chips and pieces of small, light rock in it. Could these be fragments of limestone that were propelled out of the forming crater? Also, I can pick up the rock with a powerful magnet but it doesn't stick as strongly as an entire meteorite so I think it might be some melted meteorite that was mixed with the rock on impact. Is this an impactite? He brought other rocks from the same area but none of them stick to a magnet or look melted. I don't know much about impactite so any information would be greatly appreciated. I am sorry that I can't give you an image but I don't have a digital camera yet. I don't have much money right now and the money I do have is going towards a eucrite. By the way, anyone got a good offer on eucrite? I won't be able to buy any now because I don't have much money but maybe in a month or so I will. I don't have any achondrite at all in my collection yet and I thought eucrite is fairly cheap so I will get some. Thanks ************ Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite export law
Hello meteorite list and astro list, I just finished writing an E-mail to my MP about the law banning the exportation of meteorites from Canada. I urge all of you who are Canadian to do so also. The problem is that because it is illegal to sell meteorites found in Canada, there is no incentive for people to search. As a result, meteorites are left to weather in the harsh Canadian climate instead of being sold and studied. I am sure that most meteorite dealers would donate a small portion of any meteorite they find to a local university or scientific institution. For more information you can go to this site that I found: http://www.canadian-meteorites.com/file5.htm Please write to your MP. The study of meteorites is important because it can tell us about the formation of the solar system and even the origins of life on earth. Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Probable meteorite fallen over a roof in Italy
>...spiky stone, Aren't most meteorites smooth because of ablation? Unless it shattered on impact and there are more pieces. >density of 2.81. Isn't that low for a meteorite? I heard that they are usually above about 3.5 g/cc. **** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake and Kaidun
Here is some info on the Revelstoke meteorite in BC, Canada: http://tabla.geo.ucalgary.ca/cdnmeteorites/meteorite/revelstoke.html I have heard of a few meteorites being found on snow in Canada, for example: Bruderheim and Innisfree (MORP network recovery). Apperently, many meteorites fall through the snow, bounce off the ground and come to rest back on the surface of the snow but in the case of dust I imagine it would just sprinkle onto the surface. This gives Canada some advantage because as they say here there are 4 seasons: Winter, almost winter, just past winter and the rainy season. :) Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake and Kaidun >Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 17:04:20 -0800 (PST) > >There is another very strange carbonaceous meteorite >that fell at "Revelstoke" (sp) Canada in the winter of >1965 (?). > >As I recall, after a very bright and large fireball a >team was sent to explore after the scene, covered with >snow was checked via aircraft. Snow drifts were >covered with what appeared from the air to be black >dust. > >Field investigations, as I recall, recovered about 1 >gram of carbonaceous meteorite dust (C1 ?). > >So, it would seem that there are other instances of >this type of material falling to earth. > >In this case had the fall not happened when the land >was covered in snow nothing would have been recovered. > >And I imagine that for Tagish Lake the result would not >have been nearly as good had it happened say in the >summer time. > >Regards, >Steve Schoner AMS > > > > >On Thu, 14 February 2002, Eric Twelker wrote > > > > > Hello all > > > > Just a reminder that we still have small pieces >(<70 mg) of Tagish Lake > > available. > > > > Regards, > > > > Eric Twelker > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.meteoritemarket.com > > > > > From: Bernd Pauli HD ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:25:02 +0100 > > > To: meteorite-list ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake and Kaidun > > > > > > ZOLENSKY M. et al. (2001) Kaidun: A smorgasbord > > > of new asteroid samples (MAPS 36-9, 2001, A233): > > > > > > One of the most intriguing results of research on >Tagish Lake is that > > > it may be a piece from a type D asteroid this >type of asteroid is > > > supposed to be extremely rich in carbon. How does >that finding relate > > > to Kaidun? Kaidun is a clastic carbonaceous >chondrite and the following > > > components are present: > > > > > > - every type of carbonaceous chondrite > > > - enstatite chondrites > > > - shock melt clasts > > > - many numerous hitherto unseen materials - plus: >... > > > - a carbonaceous lithology with the same oxygen >isotope > > > composition as Tagish Lake > > > > > > So there was Tagish Lake-like material in our >collections > > > 20 years before Tagish Lake fell! > > > > > > In order to have accumulated clasts of many >unrelated asteroids, the > > > Kaidun parent body must have been large and the >authors speculate > > > that Kaidun may have come from ... Ceres. > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Bernd > > > > > > __ > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >___ >Join the Space Program: Get FREE E-mail at http://www.space.com. > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Troilite in a pallasite? Why are the crystals so small?
Hello meteorite list and all, I have a 27 gram Brahin pallasite (not etched) that has what looks like a troilite inclusion. The inclusion is sort of greyish-brown and darker than the surrounding metal and it appears to have a very fine grainy texture when observed at 10x magnification. Is this troilite (FeS)? It is very irregularly shaped compared to the round inlusions found in iron meteorites and it has many closely packed shards of olivine as opposed to the larger crystals outside of it. It measures approximately 15mm by 10mm. I have seen it before in pictures of Brahin on the net and have read a little about troilite inclusions but I couldn't find very much information. I was wondering, why are the olivine crystals within the inclusion so small relative to the crystals in the surrounding metal and why are they so closely packed together? Also, are there other pallasites with inclusions like these or are they unique to Brahins? Any information would be helpful, thanks. Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Willamete meteorite
Hello people, I heard that the Willamete meteorite may have been carried down to the states from Canada by the glaciers. Therefore the meteorite should be returned to Canada. And since I am Canadian I will take it off your hands for you :) Or, we can take it even further. Get NASA to build a rocket and launch the meteorite back to the original place of residence, the asteroid belt. Just being silly ;) Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] I GOT NEW METEORITES
Hey everybody, I got some new meteorites from Michael Casper: Gao, H5 chondrite Henbury, medium octahedrite Sikhote-alin, coarsest octahedrite And it looks like the henbury and the gao are oriented!!! I have never had an oriented meteorite before so I am not sure. I also got a signed hard-cover copy of rocks from space and a Michael Casper catalogue. REALLY COOL! Thanks Mike, you have a big heart :) By the way, to avoid confusion, NONE of my meteorites are for sale. I only collect them. I guess now I have to update my collection page on my web site. Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] TLC show-solar empire
Hello list, About 5 years ago I saw a show on TLC about meteorites. It talked about Bob Haag and how he hunts for meteorites and it talked about some famous meteorites around the world. This documentary is what first got me interested in meteorites. I went out and found every black rock in the whole town and asked the local rock expert if they were meteorites (of course they weren't) I had recorded the show and watched it over and over almost daily. I was really obsesed (and I still am). I think it was called solar empire and it was narrarated by Michael Dorn (Ltnt. Worf from Star trek TNG). I accidently recorded over it a few weeks after I had recorded it. It was the best documentary on meteorites that I have ever seen and I want to see it again. Did anyone else see this show and does anyone have a copy or know where I could get one? Thanks in advance. Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites blessing or omen ?
This is true. I myself have many tiny chips and pieces of meteorite but I have an NWA that I got from Dean Bessey that is 285 grams. I am glad that I had the opportunity to obtain a meteorite of its size. It has given me a better idea of what a meteorite would probably look like in an environment where it might be weathered and I have been able to show it to many people in my school, many of whom have shown great interest. Besides, I don't think that the information about the strewnfields is all that important to science, the physics of meteorite falls and the formation of strewnfields is already well known. What needs to be studied is the meteorites themselves and the best way to do this is to have nomads out there searching to make a profit, finding the maximum amount of material. Am I right on this? This is just my opinion. My 2 bits (of NWA meteorite) worth :) Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter >From: "Simon de Boer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites blessing or omen ? >Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:54:01 -0500 > > Edward and List :I am a junior and amateur collector. I've >been interested in meteorites for as long as I can remember searching > fields , rock piles wondering how I might wish astar to fall on > my property. Having finally accumulated numerous specimens I sent >pieces to Robt Haag who called me on the phone with the >discouraging news that none of what I had a ton of beside my gas >barrel was meteorite. > At that point I did as Robt said and got Richard Nortons book > and educated myself somewhat. I met a few helpful dealers , >collectors, and got to look at the real thing. It was like a >starved soul to be able to purchase pieces of meteorite at such >reasonable prices and study them for myself.No it wasn t the >dollars for me that I could make on them , I was just glad to >buy them for what I could get them If I had to pay what some >have paid to have a few grams of rare individuals I wouldn t have >any today .I have shared pieces with many people who would >otherwise been like me ignorant about what a meteorite looks and >feels like. I can now bring and even give some to farmers and >friends who otherwise would never even see the real thing much less >care, but they marvel when they get to touch what we now take for >granted. > I spend hours looking over and over at all the variety of >specimens I have from NWA and anyone who is interested can >actually come and enjoy them also. I ve been asked if I can show >what I have at the local fall fair I think its an excellent idea to >bring them into schools and let childrens hold a star first hand and >not look at it in a museum for 5 seconds and never experience >them. the beauty of nature ought not be locked up and hoarded by >those who can afford high priced ones alone ..There is lots to >go around I m so thankful the price was in range where I didn t >hesitate to get some rather than just keep looking and hoping >someday to find one . Blessing UNWA for me perhaps someday I >ll get some pieces classified and donate my 20 grams to the >cause also without regret. > I agree that perhaps alot more pairing could have been done >I t could have been picked up more scientifically but it didn t >happen and we won t turn back time to undo what has been done >Make the best of the opportunity , I believe I'm doing that and >there is nothing stopping anyone else either If I don t avail myself >of it someone else will > Simon _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange e-mails
I got an E-mail in reply to one of my postings that had no text and had an attachment that said something .MP3.pif and there was a text attachment as well. When I scanned the .mp3.pif attachment for viruses it said that it did contain one so I didn't open it. I also replied to it and the message came back. Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter >From: Bob Martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [meteorite-list] Strange e-mails >Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:43:52 -0500 > >All, > >In the last couple of days I've received two e-mails from unknown persons. > >The latest was from someone named "Ivan Koutyrev" (I know we have an "Ivan" >in meteoritics these days, but I don't know his last name). Its subject >line was "Re: Apollo 'Lunar' Sample." It contained no text message but >carried an attachment with a .pif suffix. When I replied to the sender, >the message bounced. > >I wouldn't have brought this up, but yesterday I got another very similar >message. I deleted it so I can't remember the sender's name, but it was >not "Ivan." It also contained no text, just a .pif attachment. When I >replied to it, it also bounced. The subject line indicated that it was a >response to my recent list posting about the Willamette meteorite. > >I am not foolish enough to open attachments sent by complete strangers, so >I don't know what these .pif files were. That they were sent from >fictitious e-mail accounts has me concerned. Two of these in as many days >is odd. Both coming with meteorite-related subject lines is very odd. I >suspect Trojan Horses. Can .pif attachments cause damage to a computer >when opened? > >Is anyone else on the list experiencing this problem? If so, we might have >a list-wide issue. If not, then I might have become a target for some >reason. > >Any ideas? > > > >Bob MartinoCan you really name a star? >http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/ >"I look up to the heavens > but night has clouded over > no spark of constellation > no Vela no Orion." -Enya > > > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] HED meteorite parent bodies Hermes and 1988 XB?
Hello asro list and meteorite list, I found this article on the internet about the parent bodies of HED (howardite, eucrite, diogenite) meteorites being determined by their fall dates corresponding to the close approaches of asteroids: http://www.princeton.edu/~willman/LPSCXXVI1995.html Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Diamonds from meteorites
Hello list, This was given to me by Mohamed on MSN messenger. It is very interesting. http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/diamonds990913.html Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Leonid Meteorite
I read about that meteorite in "collision earth" by Peter Grego. >From: Bernd Pauli HD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Ron Baalke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: Meteorite Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [meteorite-list] Leonid Meteorite >Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 17:49:05 +0100 > >Rick inquired: > > > I was wondering is there a documented for sure 100% > > meteorite that came from the comet Temple Tuttle? We > > know that the Leonids come from this comet. Just maybe > > their is meteorite out there? Rick > >Ron responded: > > > In theory, it is possible for a meteorite to occur from > > a meteor shower. However, I have heard of no confirmed > > case of a meteorite being recovered from a meteor shower. > > It appears that most of the particles are dust particles, > > and while they put on a good show entering the Earth's > > atmosphere, most of them burn up in the process. > > >Hello R & R & L(ist), > >The only rather doubtful candidate was the 4-kg Mazapil, Zacatecas, >Mexico medium octahedrite (IAB) which is said to have fallen during >a "star shower". The locality was the Conception del Oro Ranch, 13 >km east of the town of Mazapil. > >At about 9 o'clock p.m. a ranchman went to the corral to feed some >horses, when he suddenly heard a loud sizzling noise followed by a >loud thud. From a hole in the ground they soon reovered a "hot stone", >which they could "barely handle". The date: Nov 27, 1885. > >It was postulated that these "raining stars" had originated from >meteors associated with the Biela-Gambart comet. This comet had >been discovered in 1826, and its orbital elements calculated but >it had since been lost after it separated into two parts in 1846. >From then on it slowly but steadily diminished in size. Well, this >report could never be definitely verified so that it must remain >doubtful! > >Reference: > >BUCHWALD, V.F. (1975) Handbook of Iron Meteorites, Volume 2, pp. >808-813. > > >Best regards, > >Bernd > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] My web site
Hello list, For all interested if you haven't seen it yet I have a web site: http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter I would be happy to hear your opinions and suggestions on any screw-ups I may have made. I have been working on this on and off for quite a while. And while you're there, Please sign my guestbook! Thanks, ******** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite chat
For anyone interested I have set up a meteorite chat on MSN. All who can use chats can go to: http://chat.msn.ca/chatroom.msnw?rm=%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21Extraterestrial%20stones%21&rhx=25232121212121212121212121212121212145787472617465726573747269616C5C6273746F6E657321 I will keep it running for a while. **** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite concentration by glaciers - A METEORITE TOPIC!
Hello people, I came up with an idea about how meteorites could be concentrated by glaciers in Canada and other places where there has been glacial activity. I have it on my site @: http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/methunt.html Go to the 3rd paragraph. Tell me what you think. I need opinions. Also, I posted an E-mail called "bubbly tektites" a while ago and I didn't get any replies. Did it get out or should I try sending it again? ******** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Energy/Matter/Paradox
>I know that God exists because HE has talked to me when I have >listened. I have also had communication with the ones that call >themselves "The Ancient Ones". It's called schizophrenia, you can get medication for it. ******** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] BID HERE! "ROCKS FROM SPACE" Signed!
simon says we heard you the first time. >From: "Michael Casper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [meteorite-list] BID HERE! "ROCKS FROM SPACE" Signed! >Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 18:36:11 -0500 > >Come on people! I need you to bid on the books! > >Now hurry up and bid. > >SIMON SEZ CLICK AND BID. > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1071093192 > > xoxox, MC > > Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A little help?
This might help a little, it is a link to the meteorite hunting page on my site: http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/methunt.html Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter >From: "J Troy Roberson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [meteorite-list] A little help? >Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:20:28 -0600 > >Hi all... > >I've been lurking for a while reading posts, and the more I read, the more >intrigued I become about hunting and collecting meteorites. I've been >brushing up heavily on my geology and trying to lay my hands on any >meteorite I come across so I can at least have an idea of what I'm >searching for. But I do have a few questions maybe someone could help me >with: > >I've never been 'out in the field' hunting. But I desperately want to go. >Where in the USA would be a good place for a beginner to go? And is there >any group trips or get together expeditions planned in the near future? > >What is a minimum number of days you should spend out searching? > >And even though I have a pretty good idea, what are the essential tools to >take along? > >Please excuse my ignorance on some of these matters, I'm just trying to get >starting in this fascinating area. Any help or direction you might give me >will be welcomed and remembered. > >Thanks > >Troy > _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paradox; we need to understand "time"
Wow, that's totally true. You are knowledgeable in theoretical physics. Keep up the good work :) Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter >From: "M Yousef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paradox; we need to understand "time" >Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 08:22:20 + > > > >Dear Bob; >First, there is a mistake in your question: Nobody says the universe was >created from "nothing". There is nothing called "nothing". "Nothing" is >what >is not; i.e. what does not exist. Non-existance can never be turned into >existance. > >What is correct is: The universe was created from a singularity; like a >black hole; a condense matter in almost zero volume (space) and at almost >zero time. Then this matter in this singularity blasted off in what is >known >as the big bang and it started expanding (and still). This expanding >universe has in the future three options: 1- keeps expanding for ever (open >universe), 2- conracts again at some point (closed universe), or 3- stops >and stay static (flat universe). If it chooses 2 (depending on its mass >density) it will return to the singularity again and maybe another big bang >again and so on (pulsating universe). > >In either case, one may ask: what was there before this singularity? We can >turn this question religious if you like, but if you dont prefer we can >turn >it into metaphysics, because our laws of physics and mathematics CAN NOT be >applied for singularities. This question has been asked before to many >religion leaders; What was God doing before He created the universe? And >the >answer usualy is: "God created the universe AND time, and not: the universe >in time". > >Away from religion, this question was the subject of intensive debate >between Aristotle and Plato and their schools: > >Plato considers time to be created with the world, while Aristotle believes >that the world was created in time, which is an infinite and continuous >extension. >Plato says: > "Time, then, and the heaven came into being at the same instant in order >that, having been created together, if ever there was to be a dissolution >of >them, they might be dissolved together. It was framed after the pattern of >the eternal nature, that it might resemble this as far as was possible; for >the pattern exists from eternity, and the created heaven has been, and is, >and will be, in all time." > >Aristotle believes that Platos proposition requires a point in time that >is >the beginning of time and there is no time before it. This is inconceivable >for Aristotle who adopts Democritus notion of uncreated time and says: > "But so far as time is concerned we see that all with one exception are >in agreement in saying that it is uncreated: in fact, it is just this that >enables Democritus to show that all things cannot have had a becoming: for >time, he says, is uncreated. Plato alone asserts the creation of time, >saying that it had a becoming together with the universe, the universe >according to him having had a becoming." > >Time for Aristotle is a continuum and it is always associated with motion, >and as such, it cant have a beginning. He says that time is the "number of >movement in respect of the before and after, and is continuous In >respect of size there is no minimum; for every line is divided ad >infinitum. >Hence it is so with time." > >Plato on the other hand cosiders time as the circular motion of the >heavens, >while Aristotle said it is not motion but the measure of motion and he says >that it is like a circle , a structure that has no beginning or end and so >is endless in both directions. Since everything in the world is finite, >also >time has to be finite and since it is continuous it has to be a circle >because we cannot conceive of a first time; for any first time we could >conceive of a time before that., so time has to be circular. >Arsitotle says: "Now since time cannot exist and is unthinkable apart from >the moment, and the moment a kind of middle-point, uniting as it does in >itself both a beginning and an end, a beginning of future time and an end >of >past time, it follows that there must always be time: for the extremity of >the last period of time that we take must be found in some moment, since >time contains no point of contact for us except the moment. Therefore, >since >the moment is both a beginning and an end, there must always be time on >both >sides of it. But if this is true of time, it is evident that it must also
[meteorite-list] paradox
Hi list, I heard that the big bang was started by a process called quantum tunneling. A really dense thing-a-ma-bob tunneled into existance and then expanded. Quantum tunneling is not just a theory, It has been proven in laboratories. An example is if you direct a particle at a barrier and the particle does not have enough energy to penitrate there is a small chance that it will suddenly appear on the other side of the barrier because the particles probability wave (remember the particle-wave duality of particles?) extends beond the barrier slightly. If I am wrong on this somebody please correct me. And has anyone else noticed that Bob Haag's website is down? www.meteoriteman.com What's up? I wanted to see the pics of his esquels. ******** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paradox
You can read about this theory in Michio Kaku's book "Hyperspace." I read most of this book and it is really fascinating. >From: "capricorn89" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paradox >Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:54:31 -0800 > >It all has to do with symmetry breaking in multi-dimensional space! String >theory explains! :=) > >Ron Hartman > > >- Original Message - >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:46 PM >Subject: [meteorite-list] Paradox > > > > Hi List Members, > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong. The Astronomy community theorize that the > > universe was created in a millisecond, a flash, the big-bang. From >nothing > > to everything, instantaneously. > >We all accept the theory that matter cannot be created or destroyed. > > So how can this be? > > Inquiring minds would like to know. > > > > Thanks, > > Bob > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > >______ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mohamed's lunars and meteorites and ******
Hello list 2 subjects; First of all, Mohamed's 'lunar meteorites'. After carefully studying Mr. Yousef's 'lunar meteorite' pictures I have come to the conclusion that they do indeed originate from somewhere in the Earth-moon system :) I think they are unmelted tektites that were never ejected from a crater. They are made of Terrestrial material that has somehow made it to earth. Earth meteorites in situ on their parent planet, WOW! :D he he ha 2nd, meteorites and Primitive humans did not understand how the world worked. They had no idea what the sun, stars, earth and evolution were so they made up legends and myths to try to explain things because they were not intelligent enough to understand the evidence around them. This is all well and good, but... Now we have the technology and intelligence to begin to explain how and why things are the way they are using evidence. So why are there still so many people who insist on dredging up old myths from 2000 years ago and blindly following it calling this ignorance "faith"? Don't walk too far guys, you might fall off the edge of the earth!! My thoughts. ******** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite
Dear Mr. yousef; That is the same rock you showed us before, I recognise the crystal. Instead of sending these 'meteorites' to the meteorite list I know someone else you should send them to. His E-mail address is: C:\recycled. He will be more than happy to look at them for you. :) ******** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter >From: "DiamondMeteor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite >Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 12:36:27 +0400 > > >http://pages.britishlibrary.net/mhy10/meteor/brn.htm > > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Water, not wind. (was,"Nice Chondrules")
Wow mohamed, you are so lucky. The only meteorites you find are lunar, very rare, and sedimentary, never before seen in the history of meteoritics. Amazing! Usually the first meteorites people find are iron or chondrite. Astonishing! In all seriousness though you should get a metal detector. It will at least help filter out meteor-wrongs like these. Happy hunting. Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter >From: "DiamondMeteor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Robert Verish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Meteorite-list >Meteoritecentral" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: "Allan Treiman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Water, not wind. (was,"Nice Chondrules") >Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:08:17 +0400 > >Dear Robert, Allan, David and All; > >Thanks for your comments. >Do you think water or wind lines would run on both sides of the rock and >almost continuously? Can these also form thumbprints? >Please see these more detailed pictures of the flow lines: >http://pages.britishlibrary.net/mhy10/meteor/fl2.htm > >About the chonrules: they are glassy, they dont contain any carbonates. > >About the ones with fusion crust: David is quite right about the layers. >However, I strongly believe that I have got the first sedementary >meteorites!!! I know you will lough at that but I have gathered lots of >evidences. One Japanese professor of meteorites agreed with this >preliminary >observations, besides; one of the rocks I showed you earlier has been >identified as planetary meteorite (by one famous meteorite Lab) but it is >still under other tests. >In fact I was hesitant to show you some peculiar "sedementary meteorite" >pictures, but here if you want to see, so you have something fun to talk >about at Tucson: >http://pages.britishlibrary.net/mhy10/meteor/sd.htm >Notice that I would not lift these rocks off the ground if they dont have >very clear fusion crust (not desert varnish nor anything else; seeing is >believing). > >Dear Tim and Allan; >You are welcome to use any images in your sites, however, please allow me >about two weeks till I get final lab results that they are meteowrongs. If >they prove to be wrongs I promise to send you very high resolution images. > >Best Regards >Mohamed >== > > >- Original Message - >From: "Robert Verish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: "Allan Treiman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:41 AM >Subject: [meteorite-list] Water, not wind. (was,"Nice Chondrules") > > > > I agree with Allan Treiman. These are great looking > > meteor-wrongs. In fact, no meteor-wrong web site > > would be complete without a link to this stunning, > > geologically uninformed "britishlibrary" web site. > > Even if you forgive the misidentification of > > meteorites due to a lack of an acquired expertise, > > their lack of interest in learning about the rocks > > common to their local area is what stuns me. > > > > To me, the quality of these meteor-wrongs suggests > > that there is a very high probability that a meteorite > > CAN be found in this area (if one hasn't been found > > already;-). What I wouldn't give to live near a > > desert pavement like the one pictured in the > > background of these images. So forgive my suspicion, > > but those people that have suggested that this web > > site might be "a prank" may be on to something. > > > > But then again, this may become the classic example of > > the impossibility of educating the general public, no > > matter how many quality images are available on all > > the excellent meteorite and meteor-wrong web sites. I > > am continually dismayed by all the meteor-wrongs > > brought to me by finders who say, "It looks just like > > a meteorite that I saw on [enter any meteorite dealers > > name here] web site"! Then when I go to that web > > site, I usually end up saying, "You think THAT > > meteorite image looks like THIS piece of iron ore?" > > > > Another "impossibility" is getting 3 geologists to use > > the same name when identifying a meteor-wrong. Not an > > actual problem, but to the lay-person, the variation > > in geologic terms applied to a meteor-wrong by > > different examiners is often perceived as varying > > opinions. > > > > Another tip-of-the-hat to
Re: [meteorite-list] Nice Chondrules
Hello Mohammed, Very interesting but I think your identification is wrong. Your 'chondrules' appear to be made of a white crystal, possibly quartz. I have never heard of a meteorite with quartz in it. Your 'fusion crust' does sort of look like a meteorite but... If you look at the rock underneath the crust you will see layers. Meteorites never have layers. I suspect it is sand stone. It does have an interesting shape though, I have seen similarily shaped sandstone near a dry salt lake. And finally, your 'flow lines' are probably formed by rain. Notice how they all seem to be oriented upwards. Also, flow lines are only seen on fresh fusion crust and most fusion crust is dark except on some achondrite. I am not an expert but I have spent quite a few years looking for meteorites myself. I hope I havn't discouraged you at all. The meteorites are out there, keep searching. By the way there is a nice gallery of meteorites at: http://www.meteorite.com/gallery Check it out, it will give you a better idea of what a meteorite looks like. Happy hunting. ******** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter >From: "DiamondMeteor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [meteorite-list] Nice Chondrules >Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:21:39 +0400 > >Dear List; > >Please have a look at these nice chonrules. >http://pages.britishlibrary.net/mhy10/meteor/chnd.htm > >Also these nice fusion crust: >http://pages.britishlibrary.net/mhy10/meteor/fc.htm > >Also these nice flow lines: >http://pages.britishlibrary.net/mhy10/meteor/fl.htm > >Cheers >Mohamed >- > > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorites
Hey 'Mr. Casper' Have you sent the meteorites yet. I look forward to receiving them. Hey list, For anyone interested in knowing I am getting a 27 gram Brahin pallasite. I am so excited about it that I had to post it. It will be my second biggest. ******** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] trade-ILLEGAL?!
Hi list, I apologize to all who made inquiries for trading from my last E-mail. Apparently, it is illegal to sell or trade fossils from Alberta thanks to a law made by our dumb@$$ premier Ralph Klein. I did not realize this at the time, I figured it would be the same as trading any other rocks. Once again I apologize. >From a guy who just made a complete fool of himself **** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] California
Wish I were there, It's -26C (-14F) up here in Alberta, Canada >From: "meteorite1.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Meteordealer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] California >Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 23:40:39 -0800 > >Yep we did it is 33 as I type > >Jim >- Original Message - >From: "Meteordealer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:46 PM >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] California > > > > The weather is unusual right now. The average temperature here in Ky. > > should be in the 30's. It's about 65 right now. I think we must have >swapped > > weather. > > > > Brad Sampson > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.angelfire.com/me2/meteorites > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "meteorite1.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:09 AM > > Subject: [meteorite-list] California > > > > > > > Hello List, > > > > > > You know the one about a snowballs chance in hell, well I am in > > > Perris,California near March AFB & it is snowing. > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > __ > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > __________ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] trade
Hello meteorite list, I have some fossils that I would like to trade for meteorites. These fossils all come from southern Alberta. I have: -Ammonites-real beautiful opalescent -Baculites-a little opalescent -Dinosaur bones-some are big!! all from the same location, probably 1 individual -petrified wood-with some agate -leaf impressions-fairly detailed veins visible -Clam and oister shells And from New zealand I have a piece of amber that is almost the size of your fist. It measures 11cm x 6cm x 6cm. I don't thik it is very old but the tree it is from is apperently almost extinct, may rise in value :) Meteorites that I would like to get include: -eucrite -diogenite -ureilite -allende or any other carbonaceaus chondrite -mars -anything oriented or with nice black crust-broken is fine Please address any offers to me personally to avoid cluttering the list. Also, Michael Casper, have you sent the meteorites yet? I havn't got them yet and I am wondering if I should expect them anytime soon. How long does it usually take to ship from there to here? Michael Farmer, I can send you a couple of fossils if you want. Do you want them? I asked this in my last E-mail to you but you never replied to this question. ******** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] (no subject)
Hello meteorite list, I have some fossils that I would like to trade for meteorites. These fossils all come from southern Alberta. I have: -Ammonites-real beautiful opalescent -Baculites-a little opalescent -Dinosaur bones-some are big!! all from the same location, probably 1 individual -petrified wood-with some agate -leaf impressions-fairly detailed veins visible -Clam and oister shells And from New zealand I have a piece of amber that is almost the size of your fist. It measures 11cm x 6cm x 6cm. I don't thik it is very old but the tree it is from is apperently almost extinct, may rise in value :) Meteorites that I would like to get include: -eucrite -diogenite -ureilite -allende or any other carbonaceaus chondrite -mars -anything oriented or with nice black crust-broken is fine Please address any offers to me personally to avoid cluttering the list. Also, Michael Casper, have you sent the meteorites yet? I havn't got them yet and I am wondering if I should expect them anytime soon. How long does it usually take to ship from there to here? Michael Farmer, I can send you a couple of fossils if you want. Do you want them? I asked this in my last E-mail to you but you never replied to this question. ******** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Michael Casper
Don't forget to feed them howardite, regolith keeps you regular. >From: "meteorite1.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Michael Casper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Michael Casper >Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:51:44 -0800 > >Since Murchison is an "upper" what do you use to relax them? Powdered >Chinga >as a "downer" & iron supplement? > >Sincerely, >Jim > >James Hartman >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >www.meteorite1.net >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (for IMCA member contact) > >Authenticity Guaranteed >www.meteoritecollectors.org > > >- Original Message - >From: "Michael Casper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:48 PM >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Michael Casper > > > > Rhett, "Because why?"!!! > > > > OK! I'll tell you why! First I'll have to apologize to Michael >Cottingham > > because he introduced me to eating Murchison several years ago and > > I promised I wouldn't tell. Sorry Mike. I feed my turtles a diet of .1% > > Murchison Meteorite every day and a double dose on Friday. They run, > > jump and play lots more than your average turtle! They follow >instructions > > better > > and I found them to run at least 3.7 times faster than your average >turtle! > > They've been winning race after race! Now do you see the pertinence > > Rhett?? > > > > > > xoxoxox, MC > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Rhett Bourland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Michael Casper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:45 PM > > Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Michael Casper > > > > > > > Because why? > > > > > > Rhett Bourland > > > www.asteroidmodels.com > > > www.asteroidmodels.com/personal > > > www.meteoritecollectors.org > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Michael Casper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:44 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Michael Casper > > > > > > > > > Because. > > > > > > xox, MC > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: Rhett Bourland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: Michael Casper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:29 PM > > > Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Michael Casper > > > > > > > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this the METEORITEcentral list? >Why > > are > > > > you telling us about turtles? > > > > > > > > Rhett Bourland > > > > www.asteroidmodels.com > > > > www.asteroidmodels.com/personal > > > > www.meteoritecollectors.org > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Michael > > > > Casper > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 7:46 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Michael Casper > > > > > > > > > > > > For IMMEDIATE PRESS RELEASE > > > > by I. M. Good > > > > Ithaca, NY > > > > 23 Jan 2002 > > > > > > > > "Meteorite Dealer goes to the races" > > > > > > > > Meteorite dealer and legend (in his own mind) Michael Casper > > > > will be attennding The 2002 Tucson Rock, Gem and Mineral Show in > > > > "Spirit". It appears that there is an "over-abundance" of new >material, > > > > another 100 - 200 new dealers (over last years 100 -200 newbies) and > > > > a decline in collectors. Prices have fallen in meteorite material so > > > > drastically that they make the fall in tech stocks seem mild. >Michael's > > > > newest endeavor is Turtle Racing! He is now a breeder of a champion > > > > bloodline of "Evil Bluebelly Terror Turtles" the fastest turtle the > > world > > > > has > > > > ever known! Good luck Mike! > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] bubbly tektites
Hello Astro list and meteorite list, I discovered a few months ago as I was examining my tektite collection that one of the regular $5.00 pieces that you get from rock shops (indochinite?) has a bubble in it. The bubble is about 1 mm indiameter. Is a bubble like this rare? The tektite is an odd looking thing with huge pits (big enough to stick your finger in) on one side, and a light frothy texture on the other side. I have heard of bubbles in tektites before in an article I read somewhere. It said that the bubbles contain rarified ordinary air. If I remember correctly, this is believed to have resulted from the tektites forming in a column of low pressure air trailing the impacting meteorite. But wouldn't the low pressure air trailing the meteorite be dragged down from the upper atmosphere which has a different composition? I came up with a crazy alternative theory (I come up with a lot of these, too much spare time) that may eliminate this problem: In grade four, my teacher gave a science demonstration. She placed a metal container onto a hot plate, this heated the container and the air inside. Then she but a lid on the container and removed it from the heat source. As the air cooled it contracted, resulting in a lower pressure, the container collapsed. So, if a tektite solidified, somewhere under 2000 degrees, with a bubble in it, the air in the bubble would be at about 2000 degrees. Once the tektite solidified the air would be trapped in a bubble whose volume could no longer change. The air would still be at about 1500 degrees and when it cooled it would contract resulting in a low pressure within the bubble. Am I on to something or am I just crazy? Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites in limestone
Ooops! sorry guys. I sent the message to the wrong list. I ment to send it to the astro list, another E-mail list I am on Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter >From: "Graham Christensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorites in limestone >Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 17:07:40 -0700 > >Hey people, >This was posted on a meteorite list that I am on. It is very interesting. > >http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,3605,638054,00.html > >******** >Graham Christensen >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter > > >_ >Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorites in limestone
Hey people, This was posted on a meteorite list that I am on. It is very interesting. http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,3605,638054,00.html Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] got some new meteorites
For anyone interested, I got the meteorites from Michael Farmer and they are really cool! I got: NWA 785 (L6) NWA 241 (H4) NWA 085 (H3.8) Kunashak (veined L6) Imilac (pal) Many thanks to Michael Farmer. I have not yet received anything from Michael Casper. I look forward to getting those pieces, Have you sent them yet? Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: suspected meteorite
>I think it's what's left of bin Laden? Don't you mean bin hide'n?:) >From: "Michael Casper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "M Yousef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: suspected meteorite >Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 23:56:36 -0500 > >I think it's what's left of bin Laden? > > >- Original Message - >From: M Yousef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:15 AM >Subject: [meteorite-list] Fwd: suspected meteorite > > > > Dear Sirs; > > > > Please help me to identify this importannt meteorite. > > Information and pictures in the following site: > > > > http://pages.britishlibrary.net/mhy10/meteor/index.html > > > > Sincerely > > > > Mohamed H Yousef > > --- > > > > > > _ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - >http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-71 >56648 > > ___ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > >Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - >http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 >___ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] WOW! thanks
Hey Mike F. and Mike C., Thank you, this is the nicest thing anyone's ever done for me. Up here in Canada it is difficult to get meteorites. I have alot of the cheaper meteorites, Canyon diablo, Gibeon, Sikhote-alin, Mbale and morocco but I never have enough money to buy many meteorites because I am too busy with school. I bought the moroccan and Sikhote-Alin with money I made with a summer job. I love meteorites, I spend hours staring at my collection imagining them as parts of asteroids smashing together breaking off pieces and plunging through the atmosphere of earth, When I was younger I was (and still am) fascinated by astronomy. I never imagined that I could own a piece of the cold and unexplored depths of space, It still boggles my mind today. Sorry, I'm babbling. My address is: Graham Christensen 5702 43A St. Vegreville, Alberta, Canada T9C 1E3 This really means alot, thank-you and best wishes in the new year to you and your families. ******** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My First Piece
Hello list, I got my first 'meteorite' when I was in grade 1 (1991-92). The card that came with it said that it was a meteorite but I know now that it was a tektite, At least it only cost me as much as a tektite. The next day I brought it to show-and-tell and promptly lost it (back in grade 1 I could lose anything). I got my first meteorite a few years ago. It is a 7.6 gram Canyon diablo that I got from bethany sciences for $15.00. I checked the mail daily and when I finally held the little shiny red-brown I was hooked. Now I have 5 meteorites and a crapload of tektites. My biggest meteorite is a 285 gram moroccan that I got from Dean Bessey and It's really cool. ******** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter >From: Rob and Colleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: meteorite-list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [meteorite-list] My First Piece >Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 17:16:26 -0800 > >Hello all- > >The list seems a bit quiet as the holidays end, associations begin, and >Tucson draws near. I thought I'd fill up some bandwidth with this: > >My first meteorite was a 52 gram etched part slice of Gibeon purchased >at the Oregon Museum of Science and Industry (OMSI). Prior to this >sighting, I had absolutely no idea that a single individual could be >sole owner of such a wonder. I gladly shelled out $110 for it and kept >it alone for many years. Then, during a period of time in my life driven >by boredom, I decided to go to the local fairgrounds for every gathering >they saw fit to hold. Antique glass, guns, knitting, poodles, and one >daygems. A chance encounter there with Edwin Thompson opened my eyes >to the fact that there were plenty more meteorites to be had. The rest >is history, present, and future. > >I would enjoy hearing how others got started, that first piece that >infected you with meteorite madness. Some of you have multi-million >dollar collections, others on this list only a few prized pieces. They >all had to start with one lowly piece as the foundation, the one we >will never sell or trade away. What was it? > >P.S. If this thread has already been done, please forgive me and direct >me to the archives. > >-- >Rob Wesel >-- >We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams. >Willy Wonka, 1971 > > > >Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - >http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 >___ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] pallasites
Hello list, I need a nice pallasite slice under $100.00. Does anyone have any good pieces on sale? No huckitta or other hematite balls please. :) I want a nice showey piece for my collection. Happy Hollidays. May your stockings hold carbonaceous chondrites and not just carbon (coal)! I think I'm getting "rocks from space" for x-mas, yippeee! ******** Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
