[meteorite-list] He did it!
Greetings list: As I mentioned in my last SSTTEEVEY missive, my worst fears have been ONCE AGAIN realized...Our favorite list Studmuffin and resident meteorite scourge, SSTTEEEVEY, has once again taken a hammer to a pristine individual. Snyder Hill..oh, hold on, I am sure it was A. Broken in transit B. Fell of the table C. Fell out of his pocket D. Left on the roof of his car on the way to his therapy appointment E. Kicked by the dog of F. Hit by the snow plow. A well known list member alerted me with this very well written e-mail: The inevitable has happened. The meteorite collecting communities biggest embarrassment has started hacking up Bob Haags Snyder Hill meteorite. See it here: http://cgi.ebay.com/Snyder-Hill-0-3-gram-small-fragment_W0QQitemZ6584685004QQc ategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem While we are all free to do what we want with our meteorite property, SSTTEEVEY once again strikes a bad chord by hacking up another one...Nice work SSTTEVEY. Hope the $20 you get is real important! Terry StarMeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My big steal
Unfortunately, the bragging meteorite studmuffin is back and in business... SSTTEEVVEY, further to your exceptionally well written note, I am quite sure you hoodwinked ol' Bob with your superior meteoritic and financial prowess and stole that meteorite right out from under him. We just loved the subject line My big steal. I am sure Bob did too. I am equally sure from reading your new posts that during your unplanned list downtime you brushed up on reading the classics: 1. Sucking Up To Well Known People and that time honored best seller Ingratiation For Fun And Hopeful (but not likely) Profits 2. Spellcheck For Dummies 3. How to Sell On Ebay Without Recognizable Pictures 4. Writing With Some Point In Mind 5. Master The Obvious 6. and finally everyone's favorite You Too Can Bore The Crap Out Of A Public List My great fear is that this main mass will go into the SSTTEEVEY black hole and come out in fragments, slices, micros...dropped, broken in transitsoon to be seen on EBAY touted poorly along with your assumed great affiliation with Bob Haag.. Another jewel lost. Z Terry StarMeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] O K
Art: Please make it stop. He has had the longest leash in history. Imagine how peaceful the list would be without him. Terry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] august 5th meteorites
How pathetic. Writing the list to wish HIMSELF a happy birthday. BIG SSTTEEVVEEYY, I hope you took your birthday off from work to read a self help book. You are one sad sack. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] august 5th meteorites
Dearest Mikey: You are welcome to your opinion, but because I inadvertently left my name (Terry) off the list does not make me a coward or because I write to stop the list buf*o*n from writing does not (at least from 99.9% of the e-mail I get thanking me for my posts) make me an a-hole. But again, you, like me, are welcome to an opinion. PS, my list post was an opinion, hint, hint ;-) This list is about meteorites and related matters. Lets get back to that That is exactly the reason why I write. To stop the moronic BIG SSTTEEVEY posts. Check the archives. Since you have clearly been hiding under your wet blanket for the last few years, check out the list archives for some insight into kind and gentle, MR. would-not-do-anything-wrong BIG SSTTEEVEY. All the people that continue to demean Steve are doing so to try and inflate their own pathetic egos. Wrong again STTEEVEY friend. Trying to protect a subject I am quite fond of (meteorites in case you did not know) , including this list and the brainpower behind it. My ego is well in check and very unpathetic. I own a world class meteorite collection and retired two years ago at age 43 after running a few companies. I care very much about meteorites (some might call it protecting my investment) and stopping the occasional idiots that continually try to ruin things. I have nothing to prove to anybody, including some off-base goofball like you that likes Big SSTTEEVEY. But since you posted, I get to post my opinion AGAIN. I am equally and simply tired of the do-gooders like you that occasionally come out of your pup-tents to support our infamous SSTTEEVEY. And, PS, I tried all the do-gooder things like writing him directly, hitting the delete key, et al. Check the list archives again to find out why that doesn't work. You can answer your own question. PS, when you talk to your SSTEVEY buddy next, tell him to post much less frequently and keep it meteorite related. All the best! Terry StarMeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] a joke to be had
Hey W. Most people don't tolerate him. It is 100 to 1 against him on this list. He continues to spam the list with no respect for the list its' members. Many people have written to Art about his non-meteoritic posts. Yet he continues with no penalties. What about it Art? Everyone is being good except BIG STEEVVEEYY. Terry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Happy 4th of July/nice weekend
Excellent question Anita! Many of us could not agree more. He repeatedly ignores list rules..a veritable serial offender. Art, can you help us?? Terry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Dis-interesting Steve Arnold
Mike, Dirk, List: Our meteorite list home boy SSTTEEVYY I need attention from anyone ARNOLD continues to spam the list with his drivel...More giveaways (remember he said he was done with them before his infamous Mexico trip?) Interesting meteorite names..WOW SSTTEEVVYYY, you are lightin' it up man! Anything to try get a response (notice no one replies to your topics, STORMBRINGER...everyone replies to tell you to GO AWAY!)... BIG SSTTEEVVEEYYS next list post: Dear List: It is very hot here in Elgin...I just put ice cubes down my pants which got me thinkin about lemunade(sic) and meteoritesso I went to the store to get some lemuns (Don't they look like meteorites)..anyways, they were too expensive (my generous, great giveaways are killing me), so I bought some Country Time lemunadehave you ever read the ingredients?? It is made with artificalial lemun flavor...but I have Lemun Pledge furniture wax and it is made with REAL LEMUNS!!! SO, I put 2 and 3 together and made 6 by putting a little Pledge in my Country Timewent down real smooth, VERY LEMUNYY, but gave me wicked gas...must be the waxSo list, do you think there is a conspiracy by the lemun people? I alreday did a GOOGLE search, so PLEASE HELP ME! ANY HELP WITH THIS IS APPRECIATED (I can hardly get myself dressed in the morning)BIG STEVE, THE METEOIRTE DOCTOR OF PROCTOLOGY By from sunny and hot Elgin Terry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] different prices of meteorites
I think the LTD refers to the fact that everything MEXICO SSTTEEVEEY does is limited by so many factors too numerous to list Further to his e-mail..close your eyes and imagine for a moment, if you dare: SOME PEOPLE CHARGE HIGHER PRICES FOR METEORITES THAN OTHERS!...INCLUDING PEOPLE IN OTHER COUNTRIES!!! A stunning revelation missed by the brightest of the list, but plucked from capitalist obscurity by the dimmest bulb on the tree, our own ELGIN MEXICO SSTTEEVVEEYY ! Stay tuned for SSTTEEVVEEYYS next important list query (big word). List, can anyone tell me why the number of hot dog buns in a package don't match the number of hot dogs when I buy them? You have to buy several packages to make them all match up, and I can't eat that many hot dogs. I was thinking about meteorites and space (don't hot dogs look just like rockets???) while I was eating, so this is meteorite related. Is there anything else I am missing? Any help would be appreciated... Terry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] another beautiful day
Michael: I asked you this question once on list, and you did not reply. I will try again. For someone as interested as you are in the purity and sanctity of this hobby/vocation, it is clear to me and others that you are you endorsing the list buffoon's posting and discussion of his vacation to this meteorite list by asking him for vacation information. Why? Why not ask him off list if you are so interested? Terry StarMeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] you should be here
Michael: With all of the issues surrounding SSTTEEVVEE, why would you encourage a serial spammer to post non-meteoritic stuff to the list? Terry StarMeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] you should be here
I didn't see any sarcasm in Michael's note. It seems to be a direct appeal to have STTEEVVEEY give us info about his ridiculous personal life. If I missed it, ANY reinforcement of SSTTEEEVVEEY'S bad behavior is a bad idea in my opinion. Terry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CAMPO SILICATE TKW INFO
SSTTEEVVEEYY: Here we go again. Thanks for telling us about your latest acquisition! We have all have been waiting on the edge of our chairs for your report. This is the THIRD time you have asked this same question of the list, and no one has answered. Most people with ANY brain would not keep asking the same question of the list. EXCEPT YOU. Why do you think Stormbringer SSTTEEVEEY isn't getting his questions answered?? Let me give you a few hints (print this page for future reference): 1. So many people have blocked your e-mail address that most don't even read your posts. 2. No one wants to answer you because they are afraid that A. You will think they are your newest and bestest friend because they took five minutes to answer your latest obvious to everyone but you question or B. You will use their name to justify one of your lame brain positions in a future e-mail. PEOPLE DONT WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH YOU!!! 3. People are reluctant to help people that can't, or most importantly WON'T, help themselves. Just yesterday you were looking for a URL (PS, NO ONE ANSWERED YOU THE FIRST TIME ON THAT E-MAIL, HINT, HINT), that can be found on Google in secondsOH LIST, PLEASE HELP ME. Your Email: Hi list. (GO AWAY!) I just got my 92 gram slice of campo silicate from mike miller (SO?).A thing of beauty (SO?) .BUT,my original question was never answerd (SEE ABOVESPELL CHECK MUST BE BROKEN AGAIN) .Is there a TKW for this fine looking silicate piece? (ARE YOU SERIOUS? THIS IS THE DUMBEST METEORITE QUESTION I HAVE EVER HEARD) It looks alike(HUH?) lueders (SO? IF YOU TOOK YOUR ABNORMAL (NORMAL FOR YOU) PICTURE OF IT AND PUT IT ON EBAY, IT WOULD LOOK LIKE A MEADOW MUFFIN AS SEEN THROUGH A COKE BOTTLE).Please ,any info will (SEE ABOVE) make my mind (??) rest. (WE ARE ALL WAITING AT OUR KEYBOARDS TO MAKE YOU REST EASY, SSTTEEVEEY SSTTOORRMMBRRINGGEERR..) Terry StarMeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] test-delete
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Re: [meteorite-list] THANKS SO MUCH
HI BIG SSTTEEVVEEYYY AKA RICHARD (DICK) ARNOLD: And greetings list. NAYSAYER # 1 here. A couple of key points for the handful of live and let live Stormbringer supporters before I pick apart NITWIT BOY . STTEEVVEEYY the DIMWIT continues to terrorize this list (I agree with Martin,Marcin, and many, many others), and not surprisingly, we have a handful of people that support him and his spamming activities, his less than honest representations of meteorites sales, his posting of inane details of his hideous life, and his unresearched DOPEY questions. Yet, the deterioration of the list that they whine about is not brought on by people like me and MANY others that don't like SSTTEEVVEY. It is brought to the list by the KING OF DENIAL, SSTTEEVVEY DDIICKEY AARRNNOLD. Remember, if the LIST CLOWN does not post, neither do I and many others. And, if he has the right to spam the list, post details about his ridiculous life, continually ask stupid questions, practice misrepresentative selling (do recall that Dopey is one of 2 or 3 people to ever get booted from the IMCA...ya think there might be something to it???), THEN I (and others) HAVE THE RIGHT AS LIST MEMBERS TO TRY AND STOP THE DEGRADATION OF THE LIST BY CALLING SSTTEVEEY WHAT HE REALLY IS, AND THAT IS A LIST CANCER. And, if the SSTEEVEEY supporters (all 4 of them) don't like it, try writing SSTTEEVVEY and telling him to stop posting all his crap. Then it will get very quiet. If he doesn't stop, and you still don't like it, TOO BAD. You and SSTTEEVY go start your own list. Until then, I will post whenever I like. And PS, if people don't think this has anything to do with meteorites, think again. This is the one meteorite forum in the world that aggregates the greatest minds in many scientific disciplines, and I and many others are here for the amazing information. AND THEN WE HAVE BIG SSTTEEVVEEY. Believe me, I would like to stop posting, because that would mean SSTTEEVVEEYY ARNOLD stopped his nonsense. EVERY TIME I POST about this goof, I get between 20 and 75 SEPARATE individual messages thanking me for at least TRYING to stop him. A FEW COMMENTS ON SSTTEEVVEEY'S LATEST MORON MAIL: Hi and good morning to the list.I just want to thank the people who continue to support me (ALL 4 OF THEM), despite all the NAYSAYERS (THE REST OF THE LIST!) out there who continue to harass (WHOS HARASSING WHO??? YOU HARASS SEVERAL HUNDRED PEOPLE A DAY WITH YOUR POSTS) me for no reason (NO REASON???ARE YOU SERIOUS??? YOU ARE IN DENIAL!! DO YOU THINK THAT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT COMPLAIN SO STRONGLY ABOUT YOU ARE DOING IT FOR KICKS? YOU ARE RUINING THE LIST AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO STOP YOU FROM RUINING THE LIST,,GET IT?) except to BITCH about nothing (HERE WE GO AGAIN. LISTEN UP DENIAL BOY, PEOPLE LOVE METEORITES, BUT NOT YOU AND YOUR INANE POSTS.) If I post something about any of my adds (SPELL CHECK MUST BE BROKEN AGAIN), 20 more will come and harass me (GEE SSTTEEVVEY, DO YOU THINK THEY THEY HAVE UNFAIRLY TARGETED A GOOD AND UPSTANDING LIST MEMBER?? OR DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF YOUR CRAP??? BELIEVE ME, IT IS THE LATTER) .Thinking that they are HURTING me.But you are not! (YOU ARE RIGHT, IT IS TOUGH TO CONVINCE SOMEONE LIKE YOU (NO BRAIN) THROUGH TRADITIONAL MEANS THAT THEY ARE RUINING A FINE METEORITE LIST) You are only hurting yourselves making you all look like ASS'S (SORRY BIGGY STTEEVEEY, YOU'VE CORNERED THE LOOKING LIKE AN ASS MARKET, BIG BOY. NO ONE LOOKS LIKE A BIGGER ASS THAN YOU. CHECK OUT YOUR WEB HOME PAGE PICTURE FOR INSTANT CLARIFICATION SOMETIME). And to put it in perspective,like mike blood (NAMEDROPPING AGAIN FOR EFFECT) said, YOU HAVE A DELETE KEY (WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO???).I have blocked some 20 emails from people who have harassed me for no reason (THERES THAT NO REASON PART AGAIN! YOU MUST HAVE THE BRAIN OF A LADYBUG. HOW CAN YOU WRITE THAT AND MEAN IT? I WILL TELL YOU WHY... YOU HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE LIST OR THE PEOPLE ON IT, OR YOU WOULD HAVE CHANGED)..And like mark said, everything else has been meteorite related (THATS A LOAD OF CRAP. READ YOUR NEXT SENTENCE DOPEY!). Tonight I am taking out my lovely wife to dinner, it is her birthday to day.So after a 9 hour day,I am going to enjoy a 3 day weekend and enjoy myself.1 week till mazatlan,mexico. (IS THIS LIST RELATED? NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR THE DETAILS OF YOUR RIDICULOUS LIFE. WRITE DIRECTLY TO THE 4 PEOPLE WHO CARE OFF LIST, AND SPARE THE LIST!!!) Again thanks to all (4 PEOPLE) who support me. Terry StarMeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] No More Anti-Steve Posting Please
Mark: Deleting Steevvee's posts is not the answer. We can nitpick about the definition of spam (which is like picking the flysh*t out of the pepper), but if SSTTEEVVe was sending the list MULTIPLE UNWANTED pictures or links of himself and a friendly Chihuahua, or offers to sell you pics of him and his friendly Chihuahua and a meteorite (to make it meteorite related), though you belonged to the list, would it not be considered offensive and not appropriate (spam) by most list members? The answer is yes from where I sit. Take a good hard look at Bill's post below. When SSTTEEVE rips people off (or politely misrepresents himself for the live and let live crowd), this goes way beyond an odd for sale post. He is a detriment to the meteorite community (imagine a newbie buying one of his 3 for 1 sale meteorites only to find out that he got screwed). Then the person tries to write SSTTEVE, but does not get an answer. Buyer beware? No. That person does not buy again. Acceptance of Steve's bad habits (hit the delete key, et al.) are an endorsement of his behavior to his feeble brain. He has no reason to stop because a few people say good job SSTTEEVEY. The list is not SSTTEEVY's personal sales blog (I assume you agree with that), or information seeking blog, or lonely married person blog, or person with no friends blog, or here is my trip to Mexico blog, etc. to torture list members whenever he sees fit. My opinion. Nothing personal to you. Terry StarMeteorites I was just going to let this go, but seeing some folks not understanding how this fellow operates I have decided to tell a short story about my first dealings with Steve A. from Chicago (Elgin) IL. I was actually taken in by a request for some Franconia irons a few weeks back which I hunt for and find myself here in Arizona, by Steve. Now I hunt these and take pride in my finds and picked out some very nice little irons and also a slice of about 1.5 grams or so of the H5 chondrite thought to be the source of the small and very unique irons and sent them to Steve as a gift thinking he would add them to his collection. A few days later they show up for sale on ebay...Didn't sell there so he put them in his sale...Needless to say I felt sort of stupid and taken for the proverbial ride. This was my first and LAST experience with Mr. Arnold. I emailed him asking about it and got no reply. Yes it is true that they are his do with as he pleases, but I feel I should have been told before sending them to him that he intended to sell them and not keep them. His pretence was owning some for his collection in his request. Alas I am fond of learning some things the hard way, but just once :) Whoops...Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] yahoogroups
Dear SSTTEEVEY: I will believe it when I see it. I am betting that within 60 days of your return from Mexico, the list will be writhing in agony again with your spamming sales posts. You have a history of saying you will stop your (insert SSTTEVVEEY bad habit here) and then doing it all over again. Hope I am proven wrong. You play by the rules like everyone else, and you and the list won't hear another peep out of me. Terry StarMeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Now, Mr.Steve - This is my offer
Martin: Well said! However, our favorite dim bulb list mascot Big (size) Little (brain)SSTTEEVVVEEEYYY remains in a perpetual state of denial. He brushes off all people that tell him to change, calling us the naysayers. In Stormbringer's (light drizzle in the brain department) case, that means that nearly the entire list he writes to are naysayers. Here's hoping that he stays in Mexico forever, and has no internet access. BYE SSTTEEVVEEY! And, please don't kill us with the monotonous details of your hideous trip! Terry StarMeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) new pic of springwater
SSSTTEEYYY, MY MAIN MAN! Naysayer #1 here. One question Grande Stormbringer: How come the home page picture of you in hot pants, slippers, state trooper shades, and the 0 muscle shirt is IN FOCUS (you meteoritic studmuffin you!), but the meteorites you are trying to sell are completely OUT OF FOCUS? HmmOur list friend MeteoritePolice once said your out of focus meteorite pics on Ebay and your website looked like a turd as photographed through a coke bottle. I believe the technical photographic term is operator errorThe secrets to your amazing meteoritic marketing mind (a true meteorite savant!) MUST be shared with the list for our benefit..Your competitors are flexing and getting their muscle shirts readyPLEASE HURRY! Terry StarMeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Klingon
I know one in Elgin Illinois ;-) Terry StarMeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 72 givaways
SSTTEEVEY Stormbringer, Does this mean the posting frequency will drop off, and the self congratulating will stop? You already posted once today congratulating yourself. Most people are generous to be generous, not to be praised. I have heard of many significant acts of generosity from and about many list members, and not ONCE did anyone write the list looking for praise, except you. I am sure that many list members are sincerely thrilled that you took the time to count the 72 acts of random kindness and extreme generosity for us. Unfortunately for all the list members, it also meant 72 giveaways x roughly 6 or more posts from you for each giveaway over the last year (that's not counting list responses to your goofy giveaways (C'MON PEOPLE, THESE ARE FREE!!!)). Here's hoping your posting frequency drops to about one a year, if that much. Terry StarMeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Proof about Matteo
Mike: People like Matteo and our favorite buffoon from Elgin Illinois continue to inflict damage on many in the meteorite community (you know, those different people in the meteorite community that actually play by the rules). What is almost as amazing to me are the live and let live people that defend their behavior as enthusiastic or harmless as the meteorite list community continues to deteriorate. God forbid if you actually take a stand and say enough is enough. All of the live and let live nellies come out of the woodwork. Who cares if our favorite idiots rip people off, damage relationships, impact dealer reputations, or bring the level of discussion on this list to a kindergarten level? Just hit the delete key is my favorite live and let live battle cry. Well, while all that power deleting is going on, many good people will not speak up or will leave the list altogether. Many have already done so. The list will be left with the Matteo's and Big Steve's of the world, and a pack of live and let live's. What a community that will be! I assure you that the many good people that play by the rules will not wait around for it to happen. While I am still around, I will speak out against these enthusiastic and harmless idiots. Terry StarMeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WHY, WHY, WHY does this posting bother everyone so much???
Steve: Your continued befuddlement is part of the answer. You just do not get it. Rather than rehash (it is hard not too, since so many people have told you time and again to knock it off) what everyone else has said, I will itemize just some of your issues briefly for you to ponder: 1. Your posts are frequent and irritating to those seeking information beyond big steve's latest chondrule aquisition or where you went yesterday, today, tomorrow, or your latest please like me give away, or your latest SAU giveaway, etc. Most people simply do not care. I like Martin's suggestion..go to YAHOO..( a Yahoo on YAHOO...nevermind) 2. Your I am harmless arguement mostly falls on deaf ears. Even with the delete key at hand, old and new meteorite list members are continually subjected to your selfish, tedious, ignorant, and boring harangues. I believe your behavior gives the meteorite community a bad name. 3. You continually exhibit the same behaviors you have apologized for in the past. It is obvious that the word learn is not in your vocabulary. You have not learned a thing, despite the efforts of many to educate you. You have been called out and asked to stop by many of the most respected names in the community, and you habitually ignore them and others trying to help you learn how to behave. 4. The few defenders of your behavior argue that you are really a nice guy and while you post a lot, we should just use the delete key and continue to put up with all your junk. A person that has exhibited the type of behaviors (we need not go into the reasons that the IMCA used the delete key) that you have does not belong on the list. Just like Matteo. My opinion. I would bet if we took a vote of all list members as to whether you should remain on the list or not, I bet the count would be something like 95% go and 5% stay. Think about it. Terry StarMeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Repatriating Chinese fossils from Australia
Greetings list: I have been on the list for few years, mostly reading, with an occasional post. I have read with interest the discussion of meteorite "ownership" (and the recent Libyan Glass discussions) and all of the scenarios that go with it. I had always discounted a country taking the time and spending money to pursue it's meteorites (or fossils) across the globe for purposes of repatriating them. Until today.A very good friend in Ireland shared this e-mail from a mutualfossilfriend in Australia that I know (a very good guy dedicated to kids and opening a museum in his town...not a dealer..). I could not believe what I was reading. The e-mail was written yesterday to my friend in Ireland by my friend in Australia, was a "catching up with each other" e-mail,and is authentic (I know the guy well). I only cut out the relevant paragraph. I think this isworth considering from a meteoritic point of view. Interested to hear what others think about this: "I have been visited by Australian Federal Police Agents that appeared on my doorstep getting me out of bed early in the morning with a search warrant. They proceeded to search my house for all chinese fossils telling me i am in trouble for bringing into the country. Well they took eleven egg clusters...everything i hadkeichosaurs, fish. i have been numb ever since. With council making life difficult and expensive with all their red tape, i tell you my friend i am so close to being finished with fossils and my dream of a museum.. They have bought so much grief already now to be treated like a real major criminal defies description. One would think fossils as a hobby is safe... well far from it! They took my old computer that has all business dealings over the past 5 years on it boy does that upset me! To lose all my precious eggs i worked so hard to get is one of the lowest feelings i have ever known. To think i now have to get expensive legal representation to defend myself is more than aggravating. I bought them in via the U.S. starting 5 years ago... there was no restriction on bringing them into the country... now they have decided its illegal they are seizing goods bought back anytime after 1987 ~ Its real Gestapo stuff... one can do nothing but watch while they take what they like one can relate to the feeling of being raped. So i will be vigorously defending myself in Court and trying with all my means to retrieve my eggs. Its hard to imagine the Irish government would be so harsh. Our government is seriously tainted with a real reputation for treating its citizens with contempt. Seems the Chinese government has asked the Australian government to return all fossils of theirs in the country ... so our federal police oblige by raiding peoples homes... outrageous! Imagine the Chinese goverment responding to an Australian request with such vigour !!! Never." Are meteorites next? Terry StarMeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Resend: Repatriating Chinese fossils from Australia
Tried to this send earlier, did not go through. Greetings list: I have been on the list for few years, mostly reading, with an occasional post. I have read with interest the discussion of meteorite "ownership" (and the recent Libyan Glass discussions) and all of the scenarios that go with it. I had always discounted a country taking the time and spending money to pursue it's meteorites (or fossils) across the globe for purposes of repatriating them. Until today.A very good friend in Ireland shared this e-mail from a mutualfossilfriend in Australia that I know (a very good guy dedicated to kids and opening a museum in his town...not a dealer..). I could not believe what I was reading. The e-mail was written yesterday to my friend in Ireland by my friend in Australia, was a "catching up with each other" e-mail,and is authentic (I know the guy well). I only cut out the relevant paragraph. I think this isworth considering from a meteoritic point of view. Interested to hear what others think about this: "I have been visited by Australian Federal Police Agents that appeared on my doorstep getting me out of bed early in the morning with a search warrant. They proceeded to search my house for all chinese fossils telling me i am in trouble for bringing into the country. Well they took eleven egg clusters...everything i hadkeichosaurs, fish. i have been numb ever since. With council making life difficult and expensive with all their red tape, i tell you my friend i am so close to being finished with fossils and my dream of a museum.. They have bought so much grief already now to be treated like a real major criminal defies description. One would think fossils as a hobby is safe... well far from it! They took my old computer that has all business dealings over the past 5 years on it boy does that upset me! To lose all my precious eggs i worked so hard to get is one of the lowest feelings i have ever known. To think i now have to get expensive legal representation to defend myself is more than aggravating. I bought them in via the U.S. starting 5 years ago... there was no restriction on bringing them into the country... now they have decided its illegal they are seizing goods bought back anytime after 1987 ~ Its real Gestapo stuff... one can do nothing but watch while they take what they like one can relate to the feeling of being raped. So i will be vigorously defending myself in Court and trying with all my means to retrieve my eggs. Its hard to imagine the Irish government would be so harsh. Our government is seriously tainted with a real reputation for treating its citizens with contempt. Seems the Chinese government has asked the Australian government to return all fossils of theirs in the country ... so our federal police oblige by raiding peoples homes... outrageous! Imagine the Chinese goverment responding to an Australian request with such vigour !!! Never." Are meteorites next? Terry StarMeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Humorous Ebay auction
Hopefully this will brighten everyone's Friday. A friend sent this along this morning, and I thought I would share it. Off topic, but well worth the read...P.S. make sure you keep reading all the way down http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4146756343 Terry StarMeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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[meteorite-list] Humorous e-bay auction
Tried to send this earlier, but it did not go through. Hope this works. This should brighten everyone's Friday. A friend sent this along this morning, and I thought I would share it. Off topic, but well worth the read...P.S. make sure you keep reading all the way down http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4146756343 Terry StarMeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Amgala Meteorite
Bob/List: I received my large piece from Mike today as well. It is exceptional! I echo Bob's comments, get em' while you can, they are beautiful! Terry B. StarMeteorites
[meteorite-list] Meteorite cocktail..mix and shake well....
Greetings list: I think if you take great passion for meteorites, throw in large amounts of money, mix in a large dose of pride and ego,add the complexities and stresses of finding/aquiring the stones, blend in varying degrees of stone rarity and the sciences involved, and finally top off with wildly different personalities, you have a potentially volatile cocktail that when mixed and shaken thoroughly, sometimes explodes. As the former head of a few large companies, I always wanted people on my team that were committed, intelligent, driven, and honestwith a passion for what they do. And, when you put those type of people together in a high stress business environment, the wildcard is personalities of the individuals and each person's ability tocontrol and manage their interactions. Sometimes it worked well, and sometimes it did not.But, there was always diagreement, and it was healthy for the business.I think disagreements are healthy if "properly handled" in all business and scientific environments, and it certainly is healthy here. My opinion on the list disagreements:since we have only a few forums where the meteorite community comes together, disagreements will occur and somewill be on list. If this were an association where members met quarterly, these disagreements would come out at the meetings if they were not handled one on one in advance. Since we are all electronic, this list is the clearing house. The rules of engagement should be to work it out privately first. However, ifsomeone takes their complaint to the list to get other opinions or simply vent (which can be a good and sometimes productive release of energy), the person that has been targeted by the post certainly has a right to respond to the post on-list.I think thatas adults we all know the boundaries and when the line has been crossed (swearing, blatant personal attacks,etc).Setting the record straight is educational, in some form, for all. For those looking for a perfect world where we all ge along, it is not going to happen. Accept that the aforementioned complexities will always exist.Understand thatunless you have a purescience forum where meteorite selling conversations are forbidden, and a meteorite selling forum where science discussions are forbidden, you are going to have disagreements for the history of this list.Personally, I learn a great deal from the disagreements. As someone on the list said recently, I learn who to buy from, who is petty, who is childish, whois smart, who is not so smart, who to trust, not trust, etc. Accept it, and make liberal use of the delete key if any of the posts bother you. If you don't accept the fact that this list will at times air disagreements, you will live in constant frustration. Trying to regulatea complex group like we have around the world and expecting that we will all get along is asking too much. Asking people to be civil when they have disagreements is not asking too much. Just a fewthoughts Terry B. StarMeteorites
[meteorite-list] Suizhou TKW question
Greetings list: I recently purchased a 1502 gram beautiful half individual Suizhou and ordered the corresponding label from Meteoritelabels.com. When the label came in, I noticed that the TKW on the label was 260 kilos. I then checked Meteorites A-Z, which listed a TKW of 70+ kilos. The well known dealer that I purchased the stone from also had a TKW of 70 kilo's on his label. I then dropped Roman a note asking him where he got his 260 kilo TKW from. He sent the attached description from the Met Base that I have copied below. It is confusing in that it lists both 260 kilo's, then 70 kilo's, and then 260 kilo's. I surmise that the original fall find was 70 kilo's, and that it was adjusted upward at a later time after more was found. Does anyone on the list have an answer for this TKW question? Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks! Terry StarMeteorites MetBase for Windows 6.0 Detailed Meteorite Record Meteorite Name: Suizhou Country: China State/District: Hubei, Suizhou Co. Co-ordinates: 31N, 113E (approx.) Date of fall: 1986, April 15 (1852hrs) 260kg (approx.) 12 Total known weight: Number of pieces: Remarks: Classification: Type: Stone, L6 Shock Stage: S4 Weathering Stage: 0 Ordinary chondrite Mineral Olivine Fa24.6, Stddev. 0.3 Total iron: 21.2% Analyses: Pyroxene Fs21.0, Stddev. 1.4 plagioclase: Ab82.8 Or6.6 orthopyroxene: Fs21.0 Wo1.6 kamacite: 6.85% Ni, 0.86% Co Pairings: not known Synonyms: Sui Xian Description and references: About 12 individuals, total weight about 70kg, were found, Met. Bull. 65, Meteoritics, 1987, 22, p.161. Classification and mineral analysis, D.Wang and A.E.Rubin, Meteoritics, 1987, 22, p.97. Noble gas data, exposure age, O.Eugster et al., LPSC, 1989, 20, p.272 (abs.). Major and trace element data, shock facies, weathering state, G.W.Kallemeyn et al., GCA, 1989, 53, p.2747. Cosmogenic radionuclide data, G.Heusser, Meteoritics, 1989, 24, p.277 (abs.). Analysis of kamacite, A.E.Rubin, GCA, 1990, 54, p.1219. Spectral reflectance, W.Lin, Papers 15th Symp. Ant. Met., NIPR Tokyo, 1990, 55-1 (abs.). Noble gas isotopic abundances, cosmic-ray exposure age, 29.8 Ma, O.Eugster et al., GCA, 1993, 57, p.1115. Shock classification, A.E.Rubin,Meteoritics, 1994, 29, p.93. Boron abundance and isotopic composition, M.Zhai and D.M.Shaw, Meteoritics, 1994, 29, p.607; see also, M.Zhai et al., GCA, 1996, 60, p.4877. Listed, coordinates given as 3138'N, 11332'E, time of fall 18:52 hrs, total known weight approx. 260kg, Y.Chen and D.Wang, Meteoritics, 1994, 29, p.886. Sm and Gd isotopic composition, H.Hidaka et al., MAPS, 1997, 32, p.A59 (abs.). Composition and structure of hollandite in shock veins, X.Xie et al., Papers 25th Symp. Ant. Met., NIPR Tokyo, 2000, p.178 (abs.). Study of high-pressure mineral assemblages in shock melt veins, X.Xie et al., Papers 25th Symp. Ant. Met., NIPR Tokyo, 2000, p.181 (abs.); see also, Papers 26th Symp. Ant. Met., NIPR Tokyo, 2001, p.156 (abs.). Repositories of specimens: specimens: Guiyang, Acad. Sin. Inst. Geochem. 1139g: Paris, A.Carion Colln. 680g: Kankakee, Illinois, J.Schwade Colln. 491g: Payson, M.Killgore Colln. 479g: Zürich, J.Nauber Colln. 158g: Bettlach, T.Stuedi Colln. 80g: Hanau, Zeitschel Colln. 33g: Gloggnitz, Franger Colln. 24.9g: Bern, Phys. Inst. Univ. 22.1g: San Ramon, T.Toffoli Colln. 20.3g: Mainz, Max-Planck-Inst. Chemie 18.6g: Leonding, Raab Colln. 0.3g: Münster, Inst. Planet. Univ. Repositories of prepared sections: repositories of prepared sections unknown
[meteorite-list] Re: Matteo and his lack of humor
This did not make it through, so I will try again I agree with Mike. He is our problem. We have a guy who has been asked to leave the list, yet continues to post under assumed names and e-mail addresses, his latest with the names of other businesses attached (mine). Yet people continue to defend him. Do the defenders of Matteo believe he has a right to post at all costs? What if it was you or your business he maligned?I think he is mostlya fraud with no life, and we are unfortunately stuck with him until he runs out of e-mail addresses. Art, please contact me off-list for a large donation to help solve this problem.
Re: [meteorite-list] Out out, damned spot!
And he is using my business name with a hotmail addresspretty low Matteo.Go away and do everyone a favor. Terry StarMeteorites
Re: [meteorite-list] Out out, damned spot!
List, This was Matteo's response to me... "I use what name I want. Sure I not see who have thesame my name I use from years in my 3th account onmailing list.gne gne gne" Moderator: Please remove this moron again. Matteo, as your last potential customer on this list, I assure you that I will never buy from you again.Younow have no reason to be on this list. Your tedious, sadlife of reviewing Ebay auctionsto keep the world safe from meteoritic misrepresentation pales in comparison to yourcomplete lack of significancein the meteorite world. You are the laughingstock of the meteorite community...in fact, many people made up T-shirts in Tucson with your picture on the front to make fun of you and your stupidity. Instead of focusing on bringing "new Italian NWA meteorites" to the world and harassing members of this list,why don't you devote all your attention to your day pizza delivery joband your night job as towel boy at the local bath house..gne, gne, gne
[meteorite-list] Fwd: shhhh
In a message dated 2/12/2004 10:34:35 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: shot up little shityou are to banned why you haveput private messagges in pubblic, I have addvise Jones List; Thought you should seeMatteo's response to my latest. He is banning me. I am very frightened Matteo. I hope we get to meet soon :-) ---BeginMessage--- shot up little shityou are to banned why you have put private messagges in pubblic, I have addvise Jones = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ---End Message---
[meteorite-list] Fwd: ah...
Greetings List: As many of you know, I rarely post to the list. I try to stay out of the verbal stuff, but Matteo using my business name was the last straw...I am forwarding the list his private replies in the hope that the list moderators will see the kind of ridiculous stuff coming out of him, with the ultimate hope of having him banned every single time we see him using one of his aliases. Matteo is right , he is "know" all over the world as a loser in the meteorite community. Let's get him out of here... "I am know in the all world and many USA persons buyfrom me from not buy from similar idiots type you...Iam the first dealer in Italy and well know.chiudila tua fogna che fai prima. Tu sei solo un poverodeficente gradasso che crede di essere chissà chi." Terry StarMeteorites ---BeginMessage--- I am know in the all world and many USA persons buy from me from not buy from similar idiots type you...I am the first dealer in Italy and well know.chiudi la tua fogna che fai prima. Tu sei solo un povero deficente gradasso che crede di essere chissà chi. = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ---End Message---
[meteorite-list] Ebay misspellings
Greetings list members that have an interest in Ebay, I send this article along FYI.Spell check and copies of meteorite reference books and good pics generally complete the deal Terry StarMeteorites Updated: 08:06 AM EST In Online Auctions, Misspelling in Ads Often Spells Cash By DIANA JEAN SCHEMO, The New York Times knifes, Art Deko vases, camras, comferters and saphires. They do get bidders, but rarely very many. Often the buyers are those who troll for spelling slip-ups, buying items on the cheap and selling them all over again on eBay, but with the right spelling and for the right price. John H. Green, a jeweler in Central Florida, is one of them. Mr. Green once bought a box of gers for $2. They were gears for pocket watches, which he cleaned up and put back on the auction block with the right spelling. They sold for $200. "I've bought and sold stuff on eBay and Yahoo that I bought for next to nothing" because of poor spelling or vague descriptions, he said. David Scroggins, who lives in Milwaukee, also searches for misspellings. His company provides entertainment for weddings and corporate events, and microphone systems for shows at Wisconsin's casinos. He has bought Hubbell electrical cords for a 10th of their usual cost by searching for Hubell and Hubbel. And he now operates his entire business by laptop computers, having bought three Compaqs for a pittance simply by asking for Compacts instead. No one knows how much misspelling is out there in eBay land, where more than $23 billion worth of goods was sold last year. The company does flag common misspellings, but wrong spellings can also turn up similar misspellings, so that buyers and sellers frequently read past the Web site's slightly bashful line asking, by any chance, "Did you mean . . . chandelier?" One unofficial survey an hour's search for creative spellings turned up dozens of items, including bycicles, telefones, dimonds, mother of perl, cuttlery, bedroom suits and loads of antiks. Contacted, the sellers were often surprised to hear that they had misspelled their wares. Ms. Marshall, who lives in Dallas, said she knew she was on shaky ground when she set out to spell chandelier. But instead of flipping through a dictionary, she did an Internet search for chandaleer and came up with 85 or so listings. She never guessed, she said, that results like that meant she was groping in the spelling wilderness. Chandelier, spelled right, turns up 715,000 times. Some experts say there is no evidence that people are spelling worse than they ever did. But with the growth of e-mail correspondence and instant messaging, language has grown more informal. And much as calculators did for arithmetic, spell checkers have made good spelling seem to quite a number of people like an obsolete virtue. Not that spell checkers are used by nearly everyone. Indeed, experts say the Internet with its discussion boards, blogs and self-published articles is a treasure trove of bad spelling. "Before the Internet came along, poor spelling by the public was by and large not exposed," said Paige P. Kimble, the director of the National Spelling Bee. Now, though, "we are becoming acutely aware of what a challenge spelling is for us." Sandra Wilde, author of the 1992 book "You Kan Red This!: Spelling and Punctuation for Whole Language Classrooms K-6," said language served a variety of purposes, so that in some settings it might make sense to skip punctuation or to speak in slang. She likens instant messaging, for example, to notes passed at the back of the classroom when the teacher's back is turned: there is no premium on proper spelling. "On something like eBay though," she said, "it matters.' Henry Gomez, vice president for corporate communications at eBay, said the company did not generally hear from sellers who misspell, and had no way of gauging how many sales might have involved misspelled listings. But some sellers clearly bear in mind the potential for disaster when preparing their advertisements. Warren Lieu of Houston, who was selling hunting and fishing knives on eBay recently, covered all the bases: his listing advertised every sort of alphabetic butchery, including knifes and knive. Mr. Lieu, a computer programmer, keeps a list of common misspellings, including labtop for laptop and Cusinart for Cuisinart. His strategy of listing multiple spellings, he said, is based on his experience as a buyer. "I'm a bad speller myself," he said. So his mistakes in searching for items led him to realize that he could buy up bargains. "I'd go ahead and deliberately misspell it when I searched for items," he said. Jim Griffith, whose official title at eBay is dean of eBay education, teaches 40 to 50 seminars a year around the country. Although the auction house flags common misspellings online, Mr. Griffith said, the most common question he gets is, "When will eBay get a spell checker?" His answer? "You go to a store called a bookstore, and you buy something
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Hits Northern Iran
Anyone have any info on this one? Thanks, Terry StarMeteorites Updated: 10:59 AM EST Meteorite Hits Northern Iran TEHRAN (Jan. 2) - A meteorite hit northern Iran on Friday causing minor damage to property but there were no immediate reports of casualties, state radio said. It said the impact sent locals in panic onto the streets in the northern town of Babol in Mazandaran province. "A meteorite which hit Babol on Friday morning caused only some minor damage to residential units," radio said, without giving further details or citing any source. It said the impact was felt up to one kilometer away. Iranians are currently mourning at least 30,000 people killed by an earthquake measuring 6.8 on the Richter scale which struck southeastern Iran on December 26.
Re: [meteorite-list] OT dinosaur fossil needed
Tom: You can get some decent authentic spinosaurus (Jurassic Park III) teeth on Ebay rather inexpensively (some times even as low as $5-$10 a tooth). Regarding the claws, forget it. Authentic claws are rarer (less of them per dino vs teeth, andthen even fewer claws are found preserved vs teeth which preserve better because of the enamel...) If you can get them focused on fossil shark teeth, you can get some imperfectcarcarocles megaldon (extinct great white ancestor that grew tobe as big as a Grey Hound bus) that are from the Miocene, generally 1-10 million years old. These teeth run from an 1 inch to 7 inches long, figure about 10 feet of shark per inch. Hope this helps, Terry
[meteorite-list] pinto mtns.
In addition to Pinto Mountain, Steve, you need to check the details out. You need to do the research. I assumeyouchecked out the details regardingexporting Mexican antiquities like the one you listed in this Ebay auction under "meteorites": http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2204702415category=3239rd=1 By the way, it is spelled Chichen Itza. All the best, Terry
[meteorite-list] earth/moon viewer
Hello everyone: For those interested in satellite shots of the earth and moon, this site has some very interesting images. http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html All the best, Terry StarMeteorites
[meteorite-list] New orleans meteorite link with pic
Hello List: I apologize if this has made it to the list already, but a friend called to tell me about this article in the Washington Post complete with a picture of the New Orleans meteorite. Hope this link works for you. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13698-2003Oct11.html Terry Boudreaux StarMeteorites
[meteorite-list] 6:44 pm witnessed large meteor fall
Greetings list: Was watching my son finish football practice tonight and witnessed a fall that looked nearly identical to the Peekskill video. Flash then multiple large (tough to define large) fireballs (6-9). I was in Lake Bluff, Illinois looking West, it was traveling south to north, fireballs extinguished just before the northern tree line from where I was facing. Several people witnessed it alongside me. It was truly breathtaking! My guess, given that lake Michigan was behind me, is that it fell somewhere in Wisconsin north to Canada. Thought you might like to know. All the best, Terry Boudreaux StarMeteorites
Re: [meteorite-list] 6:44 pm witnessed large meteor fall
All is quiet. No news reports. Terry
[meteorite-list] response to New Blood (hope this works this time)
Greetings. This is my first post, and I wanted to chime in and say that I am not sure there is anything more important than what you all are doing right now with children! For the last 7 years, I have been going to schools that my children attend (and others) to teach different classes about meteorites and fossils. For the last 5 years, I have left substantial portions of my meteorite and fossil collections at many schools for the teachers to use. I also volunteer at other schools and camps in the area doing meteorite and fossil shows. My last show for 15 ten year olds at a conservation camp two weeks ago was outstanding. I brought in many pieces of my collection, including a 26 kilo Sikhote Alin, a 35 kilo NWA, a 1.92 gram piece NWA 1195 Martian, Allende, Park Forest (I live in Illinois) and many others. You should have seen their faces when I let them each hold a real piece of Mars! I think the counselors were even more amazed. They were adults acting like kids! I talked about the process of Lunar and Martian meteorites making it to earth, the Amino acids in Murchison, Star Dust in Allende, a large meteorite possibly ending the reign of the dinosaur, etc! All of the kids are sitting in amazement (as were the adults!). I also showed the kids what a meteorite stick was and bit about how to hunt for meteorites. The next day, the camp went hiking and all day the kids were looking for meteorites with magnets and a few meteorite sticks that I let them borrow. 5 parents separately commented that it was all their kid talked about all night, that they were going out to buy magnets, and two told me I had created a meteorite monster! At the end of the show, I gave each child and each counselor a small (10-15 gram) Sikhote Alin with a label from MeteoriteLabels.com. The investment to me was more than worth it! They were all thrilled and amazed. They each went home with an amazing rock from space; something they will remember (hopefully!) for a very long time. I think some of the adults at my shows view my interest in meteorites as a bit eccentric. I get very animated and passionate when I talk. But I have never seen a kid react with anything but sheer joy, genuine amazement, and complete intrigue at the possibilities surrounding meteorites. I have seen the spark many times in children, and if I have been able to further their imagination through my shows, that is a great gift to me. P.S., If some of you have some spare time (which I do as I have been fortunate to retire very early), it is not only children that love this. Take and hour of your day and do a show at a retirement home with the elderly. Watch them turn into little kids :-) All the best to the list. I find your collective information of great help to me, as it educates me and helps me get the proper information to the people who are just learning of this great hobby! Terry Boudreaux StarMeteorites (no web site yet, but coming soon :-)) 1ë^¢¸zX¬¶f¢)à+-1ë^¢¸zX¬¶gzâµç ÚÚÊÛiÿü0¢®X¬¶wþf¢f§þX¬¶)ߣùµê+×¥Ë
Re: [meteorite-list] NEW BLOOD
Greetings. This is my first post, and I wanted to chime in and say that I am not sure there is anything more important than what you all are doing right now with children! For the last 7 years, I have been going to schools that my children attend (and others) to teach different classes about meteorites and fossils. For the last 5 years, I have left substantial portions of my meteorite and fossil collections at many schools for the teachers to use. I also volunteer at other schools and camps in the area doing meteorite and fossil shows. My last show for 15 ten year olds at a conservation camp two weeks ago was outstanding. I brought in many pieces of my collection, including a 26 kilo Sikhote Alin, a 35 kilo NWA, a 1.92 gram piece NWA 1195 Martian, Allende, Park Forest (I live in Illinois) and many others. You should have seen their faces when I let them each hold a real piece of Mars! I think the counselors were even more amazed. They were adults acting like kids! I talked about the process of Lunar and Martian meteorites making it to earth, the Amino acids in Murchison, Star Dust in Allende, a large meteorite possibly ending the reign of the dinosaur, etc! All of the kids are sitting in amazement (as were the adults!). I also showed the kids what a meteorite stick was and bit about how to hunt for meteorites. The next day, the camp went hiking and all day the kids were looking for meteorites with magnets and a few meteorite sticks that I let them borrow. 5 parents separately commented that it was all their kid talked about all night, that they were going out to buy magnets, and two told me I had created a meteorite monster! At the end of the show, I gave each child and each counselor a small (10-15 gram) Sikhote Alin with a label from MeteoriteLabels.com. The investment to me was more than worth it! They were all thrilled and amazed. They each went home with an amazing rock from space; something they will remember (hopefully!) for a very long time. I think some of the adults at my shows view my interest in meteorites as a bit eccentric. I get very animated and passionate when I talk. But I have never seen a kid react with anything but sheer joy, genuine amazement, and complete intrigue at the possibilities surrounding meteorites. I have seen the spark many times in children, and if I have been able to further their imagination through my shows, that is a great gift to me. P.S., If some of you have some spare time (which I do as I have been fortunate to retire very early), it is not only children that love this. Take and hour of your day and do a show at a retirement home with the elderly. Watch them turn into little kids :-) All the best to the list. I find your collective information of great help to me, as it educates me and helps me get the proper information to the people who are just learning of this great hobby! Terry Boudreaux StarMeteorites (no web site yet, but coming soon :-)) µê+×¥Ëfj)b b²Ó µê+×¥Ëfzר®+^qéí©\¢hm¶ÿà )j*åËgzßæj)fjåËbú?ë^¢¸zX¬
Re: [meteorite-list] NEW BLOOD
Marcie: Thank you for the very nice reply. I will certainly post again in the future. All the best to you and list! Terry
