[meteorite-list] Colorado Mineral and Fossil Show - Plus - New TV Series
Way to go Ruben!! Since I was a kid, I've surrounded myself with stones...my dad and both grandfathers made and lost money in gold mining...I have at least one example of pretty much every mineral I've ever heard of...all flavors and colors. But it was meeting Bob Haag, the Indiana Jones of Meteorites and buying some sweet Canyon Diablo's from him that got me started collecting meteorites about 15 years ago at the Tucson Rock and Mineral Show...I even contemplated trying to beat Bob to the other chunk of the Ring Meteorite (in my dreams)... Then it was Geoffrey Notkin and Steve Arnold that got me pretty much crazy about meteorites on their incredible Meteorite Men series...I know what stamina it takes to keep up with a hungry TV series that needs to be fed new finds each week from around the world...I am in awe! They are truly mass media icons in their field; historic, whether they acknowledge it or not (applause goes here). Their work has to have drawn public attention and popularity to the purchase and ownership of the miracles that are meteorites. Those guys are good for business! But for me, it was Ruben Garcia's website, online videos and organizing the very successful Holbrook Hunt last year that have gotten me to happily drive hundreds of miles and spend lots of terrific wilderness weekends looking for hard stuff from the sky. I have now found three...and they're getting bigger...Mr. Meteorite ROCKS! I'll be watching your show, my friend!! And remember - Gore Vidal once said, Never miss an opportunity to have sex or be on television. Jonathan P.S. I hope they got you to do some on-camera close-up slight-of-hand magic...you're the best!! Where's my watch?? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bicentenary of the meteorite of Toulouse
List: While we're discussing frog legs...may I show you three incredible frogs I photographed in the Amazon that you might not want to deep fry - even with garlic? I rented a research station deep in South America's Amazon jungle to find and photograph Poison Dart Frogs. Said to be the most poisonous creatures on the planet, they have enough poison in the glands of their backs to kill 10 men and are still traditionally rubbed on native darts to nail large game - mostly monkeys. Here's the deal - once you cook the meat, this most toxic poison in the natural world is rendered harmless! This frog was smaller than your pinky fingernail, fully mature, and living in a beautiful jungle orchid...and it is said these rare and beautiful creatures are the most poisonous creatures on the planet. My native guide brought me to the edge of the raging Napo River to find this one - http://www.flickr.com/photos/26628652@N08/6915136704/in/photostream Jet black, gold metal-flake and green spotted pants... http://www.flickr.com/photos/26628652@N08/7061218577/in/photostream In 6 weeks of thrashing about in the transition zone between river jungle and cloudforest (an environment that will actually begin to eat you if you stand still) we found 3 poison dart frogs...all smaller than your thumbnail. Below is the Blue-Belly hunting ants on his palm leaf... http://www.flickr.com/photos/26628652@N08/7061218577/in/photostream Color? Here's a Ruby poison frog...they eat ants, spiders, scorpions and store the poison in glands on their backs...they hunt during the day, because all predators learn to leave them alone. http://www.flickr.com/photos/26628652@N08/6915134912/in/photostream And a high-speed cobra knock-off...the Musarana...he's bright red only during the third year of his life...the rest of the time he's black! http://www.flickr.com/photos/26628652@N08/7061216367/in/photostream Thanks for allowing me to show you these jewels of the jungle...they are dangerous and doggone hard to find --- I think I'll go hunt cold falls!! Jonathan Abel __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Born Toulouse...
List... Since a good many folks had trouble opening the Poison Dart Frog photographs, I created a single-click website with them and fired my old album site... I like this a bunch better... http://poisondartfrog.shutterfly.com/pictures/14 Jonathan P.S. To reply to some listee questions - the alkaloids in the frogs' skin has the same effect as curare, though I believe it is different (I'm not a professional, just a nature lover/wildlife photographer). Scientists from the Museum of Natural History went out to study them and found 300 new alkaloids (a lot of free chemistry) and dozens of unknown poison dart frog subspecies...and now that we have risen to study of the rainforest canopy, we find that there may be a wider variety of undiscovered animals living there than all the species on earth we do know about. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lifting Bodies and Meteors
Here's a general question I've wondered about for some time... As kids we all played with Bernoulli's Theorem, right? Stick your arm out the car window and feel the lift as the wind Venturi's you up and down. A utilitarian curve is built into so many things in our natural world to take advantage of pure friction...the fluid dynamics of fish fins...mammals and reptiles...and particularly bird flight...all use the Venturi Effect to create three dimensional movement in their environment -- reference this Eagle Owl's incredible final landing approach filmed at 1,000 frames per second: Http://www.dogwork.com/owfo8/ Here's my question(s)...aren't the same principles of pressures and atmospheric compressibility that rule the owl also abounding in the last, brilliant seconds of a meteor's flight? If we flew along side it's entry with adequate instruments, what would we discover? A meteor burns off it's rugged, broken, irregular shape - creating orientation - but how does that orientation interact with the friction and squeezing the atmosphere takes as a result of it's kinetic energy? Does it spin like a bullet, making it's trajectory more stable? Is there any desire on the meteor to stay elevated due to the ablating and melt-back to a thinner rear profile (create a lifting body with the lowering of atmospheric pressure) and loft the meteor a bit further than it might have gone without Messrs. Venturi and Bernoulli? Is there any actual flight lift generated from the sheer fire of space rock coming in at a high speed angle? We see the boating of meteoric material across the sky...is it skimming the heavier atmosphere and keeping to the thinner stuff till it blows off some speed? Does the thinner atmosphere on the top of an oriented meteor travel over the surface with a fraction less friction than the bottom of the meteor - thus creating lower atmospheric pressure on the top and lifting it proportionally though it may be spinning? Cheers! Jonathan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 103, Issue 36
List... All this talk about the moon -- I woke up just in time to see the moon do something I'd never seen for just a few minutes. Both my stills and video are lit by moonlight and mirrored reflection off the elevated surfaces of the waves... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuzshLAX1-Qlist=UUnioydBfhrDU8MxPjgQL0NA index=1feature=plcp Just 80 calm seconds of surfing fireflies... Jonathan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rare Moon Set Lunar Eclipse Vantage Point
List - Sentiments of the Season!! They showed my lunar eclipse photographs on the news last night...may I share them with you? http://www.flickr.com/photos/71927123@N06/6496021565/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/71927123@N06/6496025685/in/photostream I'm just an untrained, country photographer, but I try to show up when the skies are dealing out light shows. I'm so glad I witnessed the triple-interplay of a rising sun, a setting moon, and a total lunar eclipse. Quiet magic except for my camera shutter. I've never seen anything like it. Remember the last time that seeing something special happening in the sky really lifted your spirits? I danced around laughing in the desert between photos... I drove half the night to find the broadest cloudless, lightless horizon... Cheers! Jonathan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Impact Bench - On Beyond Erosion
Ron Baalke -- Your posts are among the reasons I enjoy this group so much! THANKS!! I was immediately fascinated by your first image (link below) and mused on the colossal forces that created a Mars impact crater 6 miles across. And that bench -- hmmm...here's a layman's take...and I invite being corrected by the group, whose passions and professions deal with these spectacular studies. On our way to Ruben's famous Holbrook Hunt we again stopped at Arizona's amazing Meteor Crater and I recall driving up over a similar bench. Not as well developed or as obvious...and I know conditions, events and timelines were very different on the two planets, but if you relate Earth's best preserved and first proven meteor crater to the Mars crater, I am nagged by the notion that the Mars bench was a by-product of much more than erosion. The explanation I was given at the crater for that embryonic bench on Earth was that the heavier/more consolidated bedrock was lifted in what I'll call splash forces and turned upside down. Thus the layered strata was inverted...creating what must be an artifact of many impacts - the oldest and harder crusty stuff is on top on the crater rim...and our impact is geologically youthful - less that 50K years old, so solid rock erosion can't be a big factor here...but do you agree we have the makings of a bench? Earth --- Meteor Crater Slide Show: http://www.meteorcrater.com/Photo-Gallery Mars --- Ron's Link - Crater with Surrounding Bench in Sinus Meridiani: http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_023382_1845 On Mars, the impact seems to have given rise to a similar geology as the ancient hard-top sandstone pinnacles of Monument Valley -- good old Earth-logical erosion would add to the severity of the Mars bench over time...but only after a really good boost, eh? What a sight that would be! To see the mixture of extreme forces at the center of an impact act together to pry up the crust (possibly even set some on edge); massive quakes and hot, explosive winds would maybe sift by weight (like in a gold pan), melt solid rock (leaving an edge that didn't melt) and there might even be a draining back into the crater of melted or granulated stone (leaving a visible rim like high-tide at the beach). And I'm probably missing other integral forces that would help create a bench on beyond erosion. Thanks, Jonathan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Arizona Haboob - Video
List... I've been enjoying the group for about a year, but this is my first post. I was a first-time, successful meteorite hunter at Ruben Garcia's Holbrook Hunt...found two tiny ones! Eureka! While the Northeast withstands feet of rain, we in Arizona have sustained a record heat 117F yesterday and three major dust storms this summer...one of these Haboobs was 100 miles across, a mile high and traveled at 60MPH through our Valley of the Sun! Another wall of dust was coming a few days ago, so I grabbed my camera and shot both video and stills to document the super-cell as it swallowed my neighborhood and swept us magically into a dark and stormy night...(I particularly enjoyed shooting the lightning stills from my back yard). My college room-mate wrote and performed the music for my video entitled, Duster! http://www.youtube.com/user/abelcompany#p/u/0/wjIzzcYlFIE Enjoy! Jonathan Abel __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
