[meteorite-list] A new french meteorite???
(In French...) http://tf1.lci.fr/infos/sciences/espace/0,,3695895,00-meteorite-qui-affole-v aucluse-.html Nothing was found so far according to the article... Julien __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test, test, test, please ignore
1, 2, 3, Testing... __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ensisheim 2003
Hello list I've uploaded a few pictures from the show at: http://www.mysunrise.ch/users/julien.courtois/Ensisheim2003/ The show itself was rather quiet, a few new meteorites like always, but a few less sellers too :-( Enjoy! Julien __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Swiss fall!!
Hello all A wonderfull new fall arrived on earth today April 12th, 2003 08:37 local time Name: Eloïse (Emilie) TKW: 3.185 kg Composition: about 80% water, otherwise mostly complex carbon chemistry Temperature: almost constant 37°C Remark: IT'S A GIRL !! Sorry no trade or sale, we'll keep for us! Regards, Julien __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is any Forest City meteorite available for sale yet?
... and very interesting, there is still nothing on ebay!! (not even a meteorwrong!!) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 1:54 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Is any Forest City meteorite available for sale yet? Good evening Folks, With all the hoopla (and rightly so) about this newest fall, I haven't seen any of the specimen for sale on the List. It seems to me that the first few grams would do very well. Lots of folks are waiting. Who will be the first to offer the specimen? Best Regards, Paul __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Too Few Lunar Meteorites
From Sky and Telescope! March 20, 2003 | It's been 20 years since planetary scientists first realized that chunks of the Moon and Mars were practically falling into their laps as meteorites. And, while thankful for the free samples, they've always puzzled over why these two worlds are represented roughly equally on Earth. To date collectors have snatched up 24 distinct meteorites from the Moon (some of which were found in multiple pieces or paired with other finds) and 28 from Mars. The puzzle arises because the lunar specimens should outnumber their Martian counterparts by more than 100 to 1. For one thing, the Moon's weaker gravity means that a much smaller impact will accelerate lunar debris to escape velocity, compared to the more energetic (and thus rarer) blasts necessary to eject something from Mars. Calculations performed several years ago by Brett Gladman (University of British Columbia) show that, once launched into space, a chunk of lunar rock has about a 50-50 chance of ending up on Earth - 10 times better odds than for an arrival from Mars. Full Article here: http://skyandtelescope.com/news/current/article_905_1.asp __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Catalogue of meteorites online
Hello List I cannot remember having seen this mentionned, but the meteorite catalogue from The Natural History Museum in London is searcheable online (Steve Arnold from Chicago should take a look ;-) http://avalanche.nhm.ac.uk/cgi-bin/earth/metcat/ Allas only the basic datas are there to be found (Type/coordinates/S/W) and not the small history as found on the CD-ROM. More positive is that it is updated as of June 2002 (Mid 2000 for the CD-ROM/Printed Catalogue). Regards, Julien __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] thanks
The credit should indeed go to Monica Grady for maintaining such a database accessible for free! BTW is somebody aware of an update for the CD-ROM version? Monica, are you still on our list? Julien - Original Message - From: walter branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] thanks Hi Steve and List, Actually, credit should be given to Julien. I was just quoting him. -Walter - www.branchmeteorites.com - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] thanks I want to thank walter branch for letting me know about the catalog of meteorite data base to use.It is now in my system. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites Website url http://www.illinoismeteorites.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] lunars
There is at least the one found in Oman by a Swiss expedition (I've seen it last friday), early this year. As far as I know, it does not yet have an official name. Regards, Julien -Original Message- From: STEVE ARNOLD [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] lunars Good morning list.Just wondering if any new lunar meteorites have yet been discoverd this year, or in the last 6 months? steve arnold, chicago, usa! Steve R. Arnold, Chicago, USA!! The Midwest Meteorite Collector! I.M.C.A. #6728 http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: ST's Weekly News Bulletin for February 28
I thought that it could be of some interest! Regards, Julien -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 1:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ST's Weekly News Bulletin for February 28 = * * * SKY TELESCOPE's WEEKLY NEWS BULLETIN - February 28, 2003 * * * = Welcome to ST's Weekly News Bulletin. Images, the full text of stories abridged here, and other enhancements are available on our Web site, SkyandTelescope.com, at the URLs provided below. Clear skies! = CATCHING ANCIENT STARDUST Scientists have discovered a rich source of interstellar dust that they can study right here in labs on Earth. Tiny bits from beyond the solar system, dating from before the solar system was formed, have turned up in meteoric dust sifting down from space. The vast majority of meteorites that reach Earth are too small to see. Microscopic ones settle to the ground all around us as fine dust, unnoticed by anybody except the scientists who regard them as a bonanza for studying interplanetary material. The dust bits don't get burned by the kind of fiery plunge through the atmosphere that larger meteorites undergo. They are so small that the upper atmosphere stops them in their tracks before air friction has a chance to heat them up. For more than two decades, NASA has collected cosmic dust samples on oil-coated plates flown by a U2 plane at altitudes of some 65,000 feet (20 kilometers). Now, aided by new diagnostic equipment, scientists have found that some micrometeorites contain another bonanza http://SkyandTelescope.com/news/current/article_884_1.asp [snip] = Copyright 2003 Sky Publishing Corp. ST's Weekly News Bulletin is provided as a free service to the astronomical community by the editors of SKY TELESCOPE magazine. Widespread electronic distribution is encouraged as long as our copyright notice is included, along with the words used by permission. But this bulletin may not be published in any other form without written permission from Sky Publishing; send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call +1 617-864-7360. More astronomy news is available on our Web site at http://SkyandTelescope.com/news/. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] The rarest meteorite
Now the question: Whoever knows if there migh be somewhere hidden (in a museum, collection, or just cited in the literature...) some even more rare meteorite, rare being based on similar criteria as above, thus combining location, tkw and type, to take just these three and simplify. Just a challange.. Interseting challenge, I'll take it! Most of us have rarer meteorites than these two from the moon! Do you remember, there is a type of meteorites called howardite, supposely comming from the soil of Vesta. In these meteorites, it is not so uncommon to find some small black inclusions. If I remember well they are related to carbonaceous meteorites... So I have something rarer (based on location of find, tkw and type) than these two from the moon!! Challenge #2: what is the rarest meteorite in your collection? Mine is probably the Sahara 98111, a Diogenite with only 29g of TKW Regards, Julien __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Monturaqui Coordinates
Hello! For those interested, there is a very good site with most of impact structures on earth, with coordinates: http://www.solarviews.com/eng/crater.htm It shouldn't be any trouble to convert them all in a GPS usable format. Regards, Julien -Original Message- From: Bernd Pauli HD [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:55 PM To: dean bessey Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Monturaqui Coordinates dean bessey wrote: can somebody please supple me with the gps coordinates to monturaqui crater in chile No GPS but maybe still good enough: 23° 57' S 68° 17' W 3100 meters above sea level Crater diameter: 360-380 meters Crater depth: 21 - 39 meters, Cheers, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Bessey comment
Received my BLs yesterday. ALL of the three are really nice, but my favorite is definitvely the BL5 (nice thumbprints!) Thanks Dean to have made it available at such an attractive price! Julien PS: I will try to have them classified, but I don't expect to be very quick! PS2: should we make a BL-owner-club? with a WWW page and a mailing list ;-) -Original Message- From: John Divelbiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:42 AM To: Bernd Pauli HD; Radosevich, Dave Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bessey comment Bernd, Dave and list, I concur with the comments to date. But I thought it really wasn't meteorite until the council says it is? For now it is just a rock, right. My gut tells me that science as a whole is missing the boat with the NWA's...someday the negative positions taken during these times over the lack information like location, particulars of find, etc. will be a mistake that can't be fixed. I know this subject has had a lot of press, but from a simpletons point of view the treatment of the most NWA's not being legitimate is wrong. I have no clue as to the fix(es) for the problems perceived, but to putoff or shun the likes of Dean and others to get classifications done in a timely matter is a mistake. Some dealers have direct connections that make this less of a problem...but they are in the minority I would think. A concerted effort to improve all aspects of this problem, including the availability of labs capable of doing such work should be done before we lose the bulk of potential information on these great rocks. It is late in the game, but not too late I would hope. There are many great pieces out here that are orphaned at this point...with owners wanting to know what it is. Protesting not to buy or acknowledge this so called junk only reinforces this stubborn position. Those doing so are adding to the thick crust of the objectors...limiting science instead of improving it. From the sounds of it, fixing the problems (some real, some perceived due to association) in Morocco are probably the hardest to resolve...and they may never be. But once the rocks are in hand, why can't the community come to grips with helping all of us with the classification process. This is my two cents. I am newbie to all this, collecting only for three years. I'm sure many smart people out there have more insight. But when you break it down in my mind, the general treatment of NWA's (and other African meteorites) is WRONG! I read an article written in May by fellow list member Norbert Classen that discusses this issue from another field collectors point of view. I totally agree and hope others will come forward to help this situation out. The link is http://www.meteorite.fr/en/news/feature.htm Thanx for your time and forgive me if you are offended, John Divelbiss (BL #33) IMCA2006 PS If no one responds, that's OK with me...it has happened before. PSS Dean, keep trying for all of us. - Original Message - From: Bernd Pauli HD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Radosevich, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 4:31 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Bessey comment An enthusiastic Dave wrote: If this is the worst of the bunch then the other 39 folks got really really nice specimens. My BL15 is way better than the photo. Mine has it all. It's oriented and shows flow lines, rollover edge, and plenty of thumb prints. A personal thanks to Dean Bessey for bringing this truly nice NWA to all of us (40). Hi Dave, BL-owners and List, Welcome to the BL-Club :-) Your description says it all! Congrats on this breathtaking specimen. I wanted to buy this one because of its relatively low weight (which saves money) but didn't like the horizontal scar. Oh, well ... I normally dont buy NWA's for reasons we have shared on this list. They are meteorites without a pedigree ... but does beauty need a pedigree? They are meteorites. They have come from the same places as their decent brethren w i t h a pedigree! My two Euro-cents! Best regards, Bernd (BL #18) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] An Inexpensive Rooftop Fireball Patrol
Hello list, I cannot remember to have seen this article mentionned on this list: http://skyandtelescope.com/news/current/article_679_1.asp BTW, is Ed still on this list? An Inexpensive Rooftop Fireball Patrol By David L. Chandler Edward Albin's fireball monitor keeps an eye out for bright falling stars in the skies over Atlanta, Georgia. Meteors brighter than 1st magnitude are recorded by the video camera mounted above the fisheye mirror. Courtesy Edward Albin July 29, 2002 | The whole thing cost just more than $200, it requires virtually no maintenance except a once-a-month dusting, and it provides a useful service that hasn't been widely available before. And it may just be the start of something big: an all-sky, all-night fireball monitoring program. Edward Albin, an astronomer at the Fernbank Science Center in Atlanta, built and set up the video system two months ago on the roof of his home just outside Atlanta (to avoid the city's light pollution at the science center itself). Having received many calls from the public over the years with reports of apparent fireball sightings, he decided that it would be useful to have a way to check back when such accounts come in. He could then both confirm that it was indeed a fireball - potentially staving off some UFO reports - and provide details of the meteor's time and heading. Similar systems have been set up by Sandia National Laboratory. Albin built the simple setup from a hemispherical, acrylic corner mirror like the ones that help you avoid shopping-cart collisions in the supermarket. He mounted the foot-wide (30-centimeter) mirror horizontally on a cut-to-size piece of plywood, and secured it with a silicone adhesive. Initially condensation occasionally formed on the mirror, but that problem disappeared after Albin put a small electric heating pad inside the dome. Edward Albin's fireball monitor would easily snare bright meteors such as this Perseid captured by Russell Sipe. Notice the color changes in the tail. Courtesy Russell Sipe. A simple metal-rod tripod supports the downward-pointing video camera above the mirror, providing a full-sky fisheye view. The 12-volt, black-and-white CCD camera, obtained from a surveillance video company, has a sensitivity of 0.0003 lux, allowing it to pick up stars to 1st magnitude, Albin says. The camera is enclosed in a piece of PVC pipe with a cap for weather protection. Once a month, he goes up on the roof to clean the apparatus, which mostly means removing spider webs. The images are captured on a standard VHS recorder in the house, connected by standard coax to the setup on the roof's ridge line, using 8-hour tapes (up to two per night in winter). At present, he checks the tapes only if there is a fireball sighting. An informal network of such simple and inexpensive devices could make it possible not only to establish the time and direction of any fireballs observed in the area, but potentially to triangulate the paths and get detailed elevation and position data, Albin says. But even individual monitors can provide useful information at relatively low cost. It is amazing how many fireballs and bolides have escaped capture on video, even in our modern techno-gadget age, he says. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Chassigny
When Chassigny fell, it was estimated that approx 4 kg's were recovered, and only about 800 grams is accounted for now. Any thought's or theories on what happened to the other 3.2 kg's? I knew that my paper-weight was special ;-) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Just back from Ensisheim
Hello list, I just wanted to share my few impressions! First of all, it's a quite warm day here in Europe (about 34°C or 93°F for those using these old units ;-). Anyway, the camel they took to fit with the moroccan meteorites was perfectly happy! There was a lot more quality material (SNC/Lunar/HED/...), and much less ordinary chondrites than last year. Nothing really new anyway! Bensour was present, but not in really large quantities. To name a few sellers I met: Michael Farmer, Jim Strope, Carion, La memoire de la terre, Michel Franco, the Labennes, Sorry I didn't took any pictures! And last but not least, the Meteor beer was fine and the medieval menu was quite interesting too!! They should be serving wild boar tonight. Julien __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday Abee Lucas
...and a happy birthday to me (june 10th), Lanxi (Fell 1986) Sindhri (Fell 1901) Somebody have a small piece for sale? Regards, Julien -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of TMS/TNS/HRC Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday Abee Lucas Happy birthday Abee and Lucas! Abee you all know, and Lucas is my son who turned 1 today (June 9)! He has expensive taste in picking his birthday meteorite!! He and my daughter both teethed on Gibeons. : ) Gotta love em. Jeannie Devon IMCA #9236 The Museum Store/The Nature Source The Historical Research Center Anchorage, Alaska www.thenaturesource.com __ No matter how far you go down the wrong road, turn back. -Turkish Proverb __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Me, Einstein Meteorites!
Hello list, First of all, the very exciting new: I realized this week that I might live now in the very same appartment that Mr. Albert Einstein occupied exactly 100 years ago (during 4 months). Same adress, same floor, not sure which appartement (the local Einstein museum is checking that for me)! The relativity theory wasn't developed here, but just 300 meters aways in 1905! Now the question: Did Mr. Einstein had an interest in meteorites? Regards, Julien __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] NWA LUNAR and MARTIAN
I would even consider to exchange some grams for some collectible coins! Regards, Julien -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Casper Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 7:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA LUNAR and MARTIAN Beleive it or not. I just got off the phone with a reliable source. (in NWA) Lunar and Mars material is now wholesaling for $100.00 USD per gram! That is the initial asking price! Over 1 kg of LUNAR material is available and over 3 kg of Mars I'd guess I could buy it all for under $50.00 per gram! xox, MC __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
