[meteorite-list] Ebay Item #2175659927
List / All Due to the controversial nature of this auction our observations are being presented in an image-intensive format. To All, I think that this was a very interesting exercise and ultimately healthy to the community. It resulted in many thoughts on COA formats and procedures that should be seriously considered by all. It prompted dialog on oxides, shale and other interesting contributions. I have no doubt that several new threads are still to be initiated. To Bob V., I thank you for your offer of assistance and would like your input on the anomaly found in Specimen "B". The data on our examination of Ebay Item #2175659927 is available at http://www.meteorlab.com/File2003-34/file2003-34.htm I leave it to all to form their own respective opinions. Best to all, Russ Kempton, NEMS http://www.meteorlab.com/File2003-34/file2003-34.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Slickensides
List: Slickensides photo, "METEORITE!", February 1997, pg. 14. Regards to all, Russ K. NEMS www.meteorlab.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Esterville ?????
Mark / Anyone interested: I don't believe this to be a sample of the Estherville mesosiderite. The metal distribution is wrong, the vugs are large and round while specimens of Estherville display small (1 to 4mm) angular cavities and a bi-modal distribution of metal. Additionally please note the smooth, fine-grained matrix or groundmass of the specimen in question. Estherville's is coarser, granulated and not smooth. The exterior surfaces of every piece of Estherville that I've ever seen have small bits/blebs of exposed metal visible. One "Hallmark" characteristic of Estherville is it's dark, gray-black-bluish exterior. I see none of this in the hand-samples displayed. I know that we're only working with images here but in my opinion this specimen appears more like an igneous artifact than a meteorite. Russ Kempton, NEMS www.meteorlab.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] triolite inclusions
Steve / Steve: >Isn't Pyrrhotite Fe(1-x)S? True. Troilite is distinct from Pyrrhotite. It was simply the best terrestrial analog, found in abundance on Earth and easily referenced, that I could come up with at the time for S. Arnold's post. Russ K., NEMS www.meteorlab.com At 08:18 AM 01/28/2003 -0500, you wrote: At 09:19 PM 1/27/2003 -0500, LabNEMS wrote: Steve: Troilite is FeS. A terrestrial analog is the mineral Pyrrhotite Fe(1)S. Any troilite "cavities" are probably what is referred to as "vugs" that may (or may not) have contained troilite but went from a solid to a gas from shock. Evidence of this would be in the mineralogy of the vug's lining. Russ Kempton, NEMS www.meteorlab.com Isn't Pyrrhotite Fe(1-x)S? I think it was in 1863 that troilite was shown to be distinct from pyrrhotite. Troilite has been found in terrestrial settings, notably the serpentine of Del Norte County, Ca.; ultramafic inclusions in the Sally Malay deposit in Australia; as flecks in marble in Glenelg, Scotland; igneous deposits in China and in the Velfjord-Tosen region in Norway as part of some metasediments. (No I don't have all that on the tip of my tongue - my mineralogy professor made us write term papers on a mineral and I chose troilite.) Steven Steven Singletary 54-1224 Dept. Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences M.I.T. Cambridge, MA 02139 Tel - 617.253.6398 Fax - 617.253.7102 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] triolite inclusions
Steve: Troilite is FeS. A terrestrial analog is the mineral Pyrrhotite Fe(1)S. Any troilite "cavities" are probably what is referred to as "vugs" that may (or may not) have contained troilite but went from a solid to a gas from shock. Evidence of this would be in the mineralogy of the vug's lining. Russ Kempton, NEMS www.meteorlab.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] "One too many hits on the helmet"
All: I played football in High School. My son plays now. We kid each other when I do something odd or out of character - "one too many hits on the helmet Dad?". Well, to the List Purists and to the Meteorite Gods I'm sorry to have fallen clean off the table but I had just too much fun with this image. http://www.meteorlab.com/METEORLAB2001dev/labphoto/cube.htm It's a general informational posting but the image is fun. If anyone out there also had "one too many hits", helmet or otherwise, I just happened to have made a full-sized wallpaper/screensaver image for you. Email me and I'll send it. Best, Russ K. NEMS www.meteorlab.com BTW: It's free and yes, I credited Paramount Pictures Corp., Letter of Request pending. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Oldest Collector
Allan / List: My vote for the longest person - still running - would be my friend, that fine gentleman in Anacortes WA, David New. Many of the "longer" members of this list ( I just can't bring myself to say "older" :) know David. Although well-positioned in the diamond business he still "dabbles" in an occasional meteorite sale. In any event, I hope that all have sent notes of encouragement to Steve during this difficult time for him and family. He's a good man, always a pleasure to work with. I'm looking forward to his first post back to the List. Darryl, as usual, thanks for keeping us all informed. Best, Russ Kempton New England Meteoritical __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Another mag bites the dust!
Jim, Paul, and List: I agree with Walter on this. It's a shame when people freely give to all in this manner and have their good-will treated with bad-will. There are so many ways to make contributions in this field. Jim and Paul found one and did an honorable job at it. Perhaps with encouragement and support they will reconsider. Best, Russ Kempton New England Meteoritical www.meteorlab.com At 10:38 AM 01/09/2003 -0500, you wrote: Jim and Paul and List, WHAT! Meteorite Times is ending? Over egos, personality conflicts, and "business." It is of course, it is your right end your website but let me tell you, I think Meteorite Times is (or now, was) one of the best, most entertaining, most informative and "freshest" sites devoted to meteorites. I will surely miss the site, as will others. The highest compliments I receive regarding my own site are from teachers who tell me they use my site as part of their curriculum on space and astronomy. I am often asked by teachers to recommend other sites, and Meteorite Times quickly became a part of my "must visit" sites. It is a shame that this resource will no longer be available. Many times, we don't realize that these websites we have created extend beyond those of use who spend our hard-earned money to collect these rocks and beyond the Meteorite Central list server. Still, I understand Jim and Paul's reasoning. I just have one request to make. Jim or Paul, please email me privatly. I would like to know the individuals responsible for causing you so much grief. Whomever they are, I want to to ensure that their particular egos receive no more of my money. I am really upset over this. -Walter Walter Branch, Ph.D. 322 Stephenson Ave., Suite B Savannah, GA 31405 www.branchmeteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] stolen lunar meteorites
John S./ List Members: I've been retained by the OIG and USAG on this case and am currently under a US Federal Subpoena to appear. We did the Appraisal on the samples contained within the safe stolen from JSC. (Sorry, OIG is the US Department of Justice, Office of the Inspector General, USAG is the US Attorney General's Office, and JSC is Johnson Space Center in Texas) I'm restricted as to what I can say on the value and how we did it but was told that the Defense claims that these are "just a bunch of rocks". To say that they're "just a bunch of rocks" is certainly minimizing here. The material contained in that safe was extraordinary. The word "unique", which expresses an absolute, fails to adequately describe the contents. I agree with Geoff C. in that US Collectors understand the legality of US citizens owning Apollo Return Samples and perhaps the people who had the contents also knew this as they were attempting to sell the material through foreign buyers. A lot of time has been put into this case as there is no precedent here. A lot of work has been put into the evaluation of this material. During the appraisal process I received the council of several fine members of our community. One member, Greg R. was very helpful in crystallizing my thoughts in the final appraisal and I publically thank him for his input (for those who don't know Greg he's a recently retired Federal Anti-Terrorist guy). As all of you know, all appraisals are an opinion of value. A good appraisal is one that backs the resultant opinion with facts and records. In some cases value is not limited to dollars alone. To this end we have tried to be as thorough as possible. It is my understanding that guilt has already been established. It is now the responsibility of the US Attorney General's Office to present all data to the residing Federal Judge to determine the magnitude of the crime. Perhaps our List member Eric T. can speak more on the '"mechanics" of the process. When all is said and done I'll post the appraisal details and proceedings on this list (unless for some reason I'm prohibited from doing so.) For my end this has consumed a huge amount of time. What a way to start the new year! But lucky me, I'll be paid $42.00 a day for my time away. That will get me about 10 grams of Cape York from Walter B. (minus the case). Russ Kempton New England Meteoritical www.meteorlab.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A fine line-an additional thought
Steve / List: Thanks for the response. What caught my interest and concern was the definitive / declarative heading: "South Texas Meteorite - 36+ kilograms" in combination with the disclaimer in the description. This may be a "foundational statement" that will now show up with other specimens being offered and if so, we're walking that "fine line". I've watched the ongoing list discussions about different "pseudos" being offered. There doesn't seem to be a suitable answer for all (meaning the List-collective and the Ebay seller). Those well-grounded in the meteoritical sciences know that it either is or is not a meteorite. I don't think that one can have both as is presented in the above listed Ebay offering but maybe this is the closest or best case that we'll see. Russ K. New England Meteoritical www.meteorlab.com At 08:09 PM 11/26/2002 -0500, you wrote: Russ, One other thing came to mind, was that Ebay will go after sellers who claim that their auction is for a genuine name product. If for example someone offers a "genuine" Rolex watch, a Prada hangbag, Gucci Luggage, etc, it has to be the real thing. If the seller puts into their description: Gucci like, simulated Rolex, they're partially off the hook. I once read that the Prada company has gone after sellers of "knock-off" hand bags, in Copywrite Infringement lawsuits. Ebay has been cooperative in that respect. Unfortunately, Meteorite is not a brand name. Best, Steve Sachs
[meteorite-list] A fine line
List: It's a "fine line". Ok, no pun intended here on the description of the below offered "meteorite". http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=740832733 It appears that this person is presenting, what they believe is, a meteorite. The wording in their description seems to cover themselves if it's not. If sold, regardless of the amount, is this fraudulent if it turns out to be terrestrial in origin (note that the heading is "South Texas Meteorite - 36+ kilograms" )? Opinions? Russ K., NEMS www.meteorlab.com
[meteorite-list] Translation?
List: I responded to Jay but received the following response. Can someone interpret it for me? Does it mean that I responded to an incorrect address or does the address not exist? Thanks for any responses, Russ K., NEMS www.meteorlab.com --- Your message To: Jay Haynes Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone Seen Russ? Sent: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:54:41 +0100 did not reach the following recipient(s): [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:54:57 +0100 Le nom du destinataire n'est pas reconnu L'identificateur MTS du message original est : c=fr;a= ;p=rue?du?commerce;l=RDCMAIL0211211354XKHDZMK5 MSEXCH:IMS:Rue_Du_Commerce:RUEDUCOMMERCE:RDCMAIL 0 (000C05A6) Destinataire inconnu Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone Seen Russ? Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:54:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" J Jay - All: Caution on this email. I'm here, no emails received, but this one had a virus attached. Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] Russ K., NEMS www.meteorlab.com >Hi List, > >Has anyone been in conatct with Russ from NEMS recently? I been trying to >e-mail him for a week but no replies. > >Take Care, >Jay >
Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone Seen Russ?
Jay - All: Caution on this email. I'm here, no emails received, but this one had a virus attached. Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] Russ K., NEMS www.meteorlab.com Hi List, Has anyone been in conatct with Russ from NEMS recently? I been trying to e-mail him for a week but no replies. Take Care, Jay __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] loose chondrules needed
Matt: If you're unable to find a source NEMS would be happy to donate the chondrules. Would you like them sectioned or complete? Best, Russ K., NEMS At 10:07 AM 10/04/2002 -0600, you wrote: Does anyone have about 15-20 loose chondrules they could donate to a local university here in CO, for a class? If you do, please contact me. Thanks! == Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 http://www.mhmeteorites.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Missing Ureilite.
Steve: This one is right out of the Meteorite X-Files. The "truth" is out there but I doubt you'll see it in print. Allan T. did the work on it and is correct in that it was originally reported as Nuevo Mercurio (b). The confusion arose from conflicting reports of where it was found. We have some in our Reference Collection. Nova 001 is a real ureilite, I saw the 350 gram mass back in 1992 although I think a few grams had already been taken off. The issue over Nova 001 is not is it real, or does any exist. It's the reported locality. Perhaps others will comment here. Russ K., At 08:50 AM 09/30/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Hello all, > >I have a question for the list, maybe this has come up before, maybe some >of you know this as common knowledge. I was reading an old article from >Meteoritics - "Igneous petrology of the new ureilites Nova 001 and >Nullarbor 010" by Treiman and Berkley, v. 29, p843. > >In there is a statement "The Nullarbor 010 ureilite was found in 1991 as >a 350-g stone; the location of only ~1-g is known." > >Where are the other 349-g of it? Could it be that the finder truly wanted >to remain anonymous? But then why put in this statement? Is there really >349 g of missing ureilite? Everyone empty your pockets at the door.. > > >Thanks, >Steven > > >Steven Singletary >54-1224 >Dept. Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences >M.I.T. >Cambridge, MA 02139 >Tel - 617.253.6398 >Fax - 617.253.7102 > > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Deliveries - on Earth
List: My thanks for the kind words from so many on this and the thoughtful responses. Shipping and receiving specimens is problematic. It's like the Quarterback in football - he has control over the ball only up to the point when he puts it in the air. Overall the US Postal System has been, in my opinion, excellent. This also extends to almost all of the worlds postal systems. Amazingly, something we ship seems to arrive (in time) almost anywhere in the world. Yes things get lost - but only sometimes. The ratio of what arrives to what is lost is probably somewhere down in the "noise level". But, as some of you have noticed, things do seem to have changed since Sept. of last year. Our off-shore mailings do not seem to be affected but deliveries within the US have. We ( N.E.M.S.) have the unfortunate problem that all of our mailings go through Boston (Logan Airport). Those familiar with the events of Sept. 11 will remember that this was the point of origin for the ill-fated United airliners. Security on all packages is extreme here. I don't know what the Postal people scan for but we have had packages returned, stamped - "Unsuitable for Air Shipment", or "Hazardous Material, Surface Ship Only" And this was only for meteorites ( one complete 2+ kilo Campo, and some slices of an H6) We also had a visit (recently) from Federal Agents (US Postal Inspectors) on a package being shipped to a university. In it were prepared samples of Trinitite and Uranite (UO2). The samples measured out at less than 2x Background (some granite samples from New Hampshire can be measured at 5x Background and are, or at least have been, routinely shipped through the mails). The Inspectors were doing baseline work on how and what we shipped. My point here is that someone, somewhere is scanning all packages at a new level to detect anomalies. With radioactives this is understandable but meteorites are so obscure to Inspectors that they probably get pulled from the stream, piled up, and examined - all slowing the delivery process down. Of course our NEMS label's with a graphic of the Earth and an electron revolving around the nucleus of an atom is probably not helpful in the current shipping climate DHL, FedEx, UPS, all work but are far too costly for US shipments of only one $20.00 micro as was the case in Randy's E's shipment. So far we've found that Registered US Mail is almost bulletproof. The downside is that it's slow and expensive. As more technology is put in place by the Postal System, I'm hopeful that the delays and missing packages problem will improve. But for now we'll probably all have to put more money into our shipping procedures to ensure more timely deliveries or at least give the customer more options for shipping. Russ / NEMS __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Eagle Butte - One more time
List: From a customer we received a sample of the material recently referred to and discussed on this list as Eagle Butte. Sample chemical analysis summary: The received material is porous and not homogeneous. There are varying proportions of FeO, MgO, Ca, Al, and Dolomite within "clumps". The terms "clast" and "breccias" are not used to define these concentrations as the boundaries are poorly defined. We found no detectable Ni. In our opinion this is ferrous slag similar to the iron slag used for road bases. (actually Canada is an important source of ferrous slag accounting for about 26% of USA imported needs) Bernd Pauli wrote: "Unfortunately there is no crater information in the 5th issue of the Catalogue. Those among us who still have access to the BBB (the Big Blue Book = 4th edition of the Catalogue) know that Eagle Butte is mentioned as a doubtful feature: A disturbed area, 10 km in diameter and 30-40 million years old, may be meteoritic, P.B. Robertson and R.A.F. Grieve, Journ. Roy. Astron. Soc. Canada, 1975, vol. 69, p. 1, but compare T.B. Haites and H. van Hees, Journ. Alberta Soc. Petrol. Geologists, 1962, vol. 10, p. 511. Bore holes and electric log data for the structure, H.B. Sawatzky in, Impact and Explosion Cratering, eds. D.J. Roddy, R.O. Pepin and R.B. Merrill, Pergamon Press (New York), 1977, p. 461." To Bernd's contribution I would add the work of Hodge and Sawatzky: "Eagle Butte, Alberta Lat/Long: N49 deg. 42', W110 deg. 30' Diameter: 19 km Age <65 Ma Condition: Eroded" "Eagle Butte is in the Cypress Hills area of southern Alberta (Canada). Cypress Hills Provincial Park occupies part of the eastern portion of the structure. The structure was recognized as a geophysical anomaly long before it was found to be an impact feature. Both surface geology and sub-surface information from wells support its identification as such." "The geophysical contours show a central uplift and a surrounding ring depression." "Meteorite Craters and Impact Structures of the Earth", Hodge, Paul, 1994, University of Cambridge Press. And "Two probable Late Cretaceous astroblemes in Western Canada: Eagle Butte, Alberta and Dumas, Saskatchewan". Geophysics, 41, 1261 - 1271" Is there existing meteoritic material associated with the Eagle Butte structure? I don't know. All that I can say for sure is that the material we received is not meteoritic. A word of caution: Some of the longer-term members of the List may remember our involvement with material that came to be referred to as the "Emerald Meteorite". (summary story about the "Emerald Meteorite", for those unfamiliar with it is at: http://www2.suite224.net/~editorsb/updates/meteorite.htm ) Our chemical analysis showed it to be a foundry by-product, probably from the lining of a refractory kiln and not meteoritic. Some members may still have samples of this material in their collections. Legal consequences resulting from this were unpleasant. Fortunately Tim McCoy's (Smithsonian) independent analysis concurred with ours and the finders/promoters backed off. My point ( something I'm sure that many List members have experienced) is that it is sometimes very, very, difficult to convince someone untrained or unfamiliar with meteoritics that what they have is of terrestrial occurrence. If they choose a legal path it can become costly and uncomfortable for all. I find it far better in these circumstances, that when asked, to offer an "opinion" on the material rather than to speak in "absolutes" that may be heard as a denouncement. Everyone has an opinion but denouncements can get you sued. Of course, this is just my "opinion". Russ K./NEMS __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Can Someone Explain the Mars Tubes?
Kevin, All: The Hydrologic cycle of Mars is not well-understood - that's a major focus of continuing research. To venture a guess, I'd say that the "tube" formation has something to do with frost and some poorly understood sublimation process. I know that's like blaming everything we don't understand in meteorites on "shock" but it's all that I can think of for now and look forward to the contributions of others. Russ K. At 04:08 PM 03/07/2002 -0500, you wrote: >I'm not a "Believer" per the definition I note here on the list, but I am a >"seeker." I'm seeking an answer. What are the tubes? I note that my most >honored colleagues and people in the position to know, Ron B and Allan T, >didn't address this in their messages. > >So though we've now somewhat vilified and thoroughly psychoanalyzed Mr. >Hoagland, the original question still remains. > >What the heck are those tubes on Mars? I don't care who pointed them out >first. > >Kevin Kichinka > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Searching Antarctic Ice for Meteorites
List: National Geographic, February 2002 Very nice fold out map of Antarctica; Sea Ice movement, Wind Flow, Sea Ice Velocity, and the under-ice bedrock landscape. National Geographic, March 2002 Natural Diamonds, localities, the harsh Geo/Political nature of mining them. Revealing article. Russ K. At 10:06 PM 02/28/2002 -0800, you wrote: >http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/Feb02/meteoriteSearch.html > >Searching Antarctic Ice for Meteorites >Planetary Science Research Discoveries >February 28, 2002 > > --- Silver anniversary season: > The vigorous life and times of > the ANSMET team at Meteorite > Hills resulted in a new set of > 336 meteorites collected off the > ice. > >Written by Linda M.V. Martel >Hawaii Institute of Geophysics and Planetology > >For a twenty-fifth austral summer, the Antarctic Search for Meteorites >(ANSMET) program sent a team of people from far-flung homes to the ice to >search for meteorites. From Dec. 7, 2001 to Jan. 23, 2002 we camped at >Meteorite Hills and traversed by snowmobiles to the surrounding ice fields >where we searched, sometimes on foot, in systematic parallel sweeps. Led by >Principal Investigator, Ralph Harvey of Case Western Reserve University >(CWRU, Cleveland), the team members were: John Schutt (Co-I and mountaineer >from Washington state), Jamie Pierce (Summit Expeditions mountaineer, >Seattle), Nancy Chabot (ANSMET post-doc at CWRU), Cari Corrigan (CWRU), >Matthew Genge (Natural History Museum, London), Duck Mittlefehldt (NASA >Johnson Space Center, Houston), Juanita Ryan (NSF's Teachers Experience >Antarctica program, San Jose), Maggie Taylor (NASA Jet Propulsion >Laboratory, Pasadena) and me. Our efforts added 336 meteorites (from as >small as 1-centimeter long to almost 30-centimeters long) to the world's >collection of extraterrestrial bits and pieces. Whether these meteorites are >collisional debris from asteroids or from high-energy impacts on the Moon or >Mars awaits to be seen. > >Reference: > >U. S. Antarctic Search for Meteorites program. > > -- > >Support > >ANSMET meteorites represent the materials making up the solar system. The >unbiased and uncontaminated sampling of meteorites recovered from the >Antarctic ice sheet provides researchers with "ground truth" about the >materials and formation conditions of the solar nebula, asteroids, moons, >and planets. Taking these rocks from space off the ice and into the >laboratory is crucial to our quest to understand the history and composition >of the solar system we live in. ANSMET makes annual expeditions to >Antarctica to provide this much-needed continuous and readily available >supply of extraterrestrial materials. > >ANSMET is funded through a partnership among the National Science >Foundation, NASA, and the Smithsonian Institution. For the 2001-2002 season, >ANSMET was one of twenty-six Antarctic activities supported by the Geology >and Geophysics program of the Office of Polar Programs at the National >Science Foundation. Our NSF program manager, Scott Borg, was in McMurdo when >I arrived. Increased NASA funding this season, through program manager Joe >Boyce, enabled our team to have ten members rather than the usual eight. > > -- > >Logistics for a season in the sun > >After leaving home, our expedition team members converged in Christchurch, >New Zealand home to the New Zealand, Italian, and U. S. Antractic programs. >Officials at the Clothing Distribution Center briefed us on Extreme Cold >Weather (ECW) clothing and issued about 40 pounds of it to each of us. We >were outfitted with layers of long underwear, fleece shirt and pants, heavy >wind pants, down-filled parka, double-insulated boots, goggles, neck >warmers, hats, and more mittens and gloves than you could count. > >Flights south to McMurdo Station (77o 51' S, 166o 40' E) are handled by the >U.S. Air National Guard or Royal New Zealand Air Force with LC130 Hercules >cargo planes. The canvas-webbing seats, noise, and dark spaces of the plane >were new experiences for me. It was all in stark contrast to the nearly >blinding white snow and ice of the landing field at McMurdo. > >The season began with a planned staggered start allowing the two >mountaineers, John Schutt and Jamie Pierce, to arrive first at McMurdo in >mid-November. McMurdo is one of three U. S. year-round stations on the >Antarctic continent. The other two stations are Amundsen-Scott South Pole >and Palmer. All together, NSF's U. S. Antarctic Program (USAP) supported 800 >researchers in Antarctica this year participating in approximately 148 >different research projects. Over 2,000 civilian contract employees and U.S. >military personnel supported these projects on the continent. It can't be >over emphasized how crucial their support is for the transport and ultimate >well being of each and every soul and piece of equipment out on the ice.
Re: [meteorite-list] Science Fair Again. Sigh!!!!!
Mike: Murchison, small fragments, how much do you need? I'll donate them for your son's project. Russ K., NEMS At 02:05 PM 02/16/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Hello All, > >Once again my budding scientist son has decided to work with meteorites in >his science fair. I am thrilled at this but I may have to donate a 1.2 gram >sample of Murchison. > >He decided to study the effect of phosphate levels on the growth of algae >and was about to start when the latest issue of meteorite arrived. In it is >a wonderful article "Meteorites, and the Origins and Future of Life." In >the article the author describes tests where algae and plants are grown >using meteorite based soil samples. I showed this to Alex and he instantly >thought of doing such an experiment for his science fair project since he >already has the algae culture started. > >Can anyone supply the chemical composition of Murchison? Paicularily >nutrient levels (phosphates etc.) > >Can anyone supply other information regarding meteorites and the supporting >of tertestrial life? > >And,... does anyone have about a gram of crumbs they are willing to sell? I >really want to keep my slice and would rather buy some smaller fragments to >smash up and use. > >Thanks, > >Mike Tettenborn >Owen Sound, Ontario > > > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CAIs
All, With reference to the CAI discussion: http://www.meteorlab.com/METEORLAB2001dev/labphoto/CAI.htm Russ K., NEMS __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New book
Jeff Grossman wrote: >For whoever's interested, check out the listing on Amazon.com for this upcoming book by Al Rubin: >"Disturbing the Solar System" Anything written by Rubin is worth owning. He has, perhaps, the clearest understanding of the early solar system and nebular processes of anyone. I suggest that Al Rubin is to the early solar system what McSween is to Mars. Best, Russ K., NEMS www.meteorlab.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New web site (Humor Alert!)
Hi List: Come on now Bernd! Are you telling me that you missed the micro-meteorite information on the new site? Seriously, I enjoyed the new site. It was nice reading about collecting micro-meteorites in your back yard. Please see the paper: "Numbers, types, and compositions of an unbiased collection of cosmic spherules", Taylor, et al., Meteoritics, July 2000, pg. 651, with a nice picture on pg. 655 for more information. Of course I read the Meteorite Section after I learned about Belly Dancing. Priorities are what they are. Good job on the new site. Russ K. NEMS Meteorlab.com
