RE: [meteorite-list] enough already
Steve. I am sure there is a silent majority like me that enjoy reading your forsale posts. Keep up the good work and don't let the bashers get you down. Mark From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] enough already Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 10:53:14 -0800 (PST) I seem to remember last year at this time,the jump all over steve arnold parade was hitting high pitch fever.Well it seems it is starting again.All because I send out to many posts.This has gotten beat to death.I do not like it,but I have gotten used to it.Life is is just way to short to let this get me down.Anyway I relisted 2 specimens that someone backed out of wanting them.They are the 60 gram endcut of NWA 2690 howardite and the 50 gram individual o NWA 1929.Lets please stop the bashing.And bill k.,we do not need you start the old process.Just let it go. steve Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] a reply to Hupe and Farmer
As a relatively new collector I could be missing the point. But, isn't true that a rock does not become a meteorite, (Lunar, Martian, or anything else), until a scientist says so and assigns a number or name? If this is true, then it would be untruthful for anyone, especially a dealer, to say I have a Lunar meteorite until it has been verified. Randy From: Edwin Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] a reply to Hupe and Farmer Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:19:37 + Dear Mike Farmer and Adam Hupe. Who made you two the hall monitors of honesty and morals? It seems odd to me that you both feel compelled to air this issue in public without even so much as an effort to talk to me about it in person first. Both of you were welcomed in my room in Tucson. You both saw the meteorites that I had on display. There were a large number of wonderful achondrites on display in the two largest display cases. Many of them were on display without labels or prices because they are not yet classified. Three of these beautiful specimens were displayed together on the top shelf of the first case because they were most curious and impressive. I dont know what these stones are as yet. One stone 2 ½ kilograms, is extremely fresh with beautiful black fusion crust. I hope that it may turn out to be a diogenite, but wow how cool would that be if it did turn out to be an SNC! Well, all I can do is hope for now. The other large stone looks like a very fresh eucrite similar to Ibitira or maybe a very fresh mare basalt, but there again, all I can do is wait for the analysis. Got my fingers crossed on that one too. It weighs 1.5 kilos roughly. The third stone is the exciting one. I told this story to a number of friends in Tucson. When I showed the stone to Ted Bunch his initial reaction was that it was probably labradorite. He said he thought that it was terrestrial. But in the sunlight in the parking lot with a hand lense I pointed out the things I saw that made me feel that it was a meteorite. It is a very strange weathered stone with no fusion crust, very little metal in it and the color is a beautiful grey-blue with light colored shock veins running through the matrix. I was insistent that this was something special and weird but Dr. Bunch still felt that it was terrestrial. Later that week Ted Bunch called me, he was very excited. He asked if I wanted to rush this stone through the testing process. He hinted at planetary and he said that he thought we might have a new aubrite! This was very exciting for me too as I have never produced a new aubrite. Still I kept my enthusiasm in check. Then the next day, Ann Sprague, the co-author of the book Mercury came by for a visit. I told her that ten years ago Allan Rubin had asked me to keep an eye out for the first potential Mercurian meteorite. When I asked Rubin and Warren and Wasson what that might look like they gave a myriad of answers that never really added up to anything concrete that I might use as the standard. So here ten years later I asked Ann Sprague the same question. Jim Gronewold and I both listened as the first words out of Anns mouth were well, first of all it should look a lot like Labradorite. I could see Jims eyes get bigger as he looked at me. Then she said, and it should be extremely weathered and should only have about 2 to 3% metal in it. Our eyes got even bigger as I walked over to show her this weird specimen in the case. Then Ann and I took the stone out to the parking lot with hand lense in tow to check out this stone. Ann was very excited as she said Of all the meteorites I have ever looked at, this meteorite appears to look the most like what we might expect a mercurian meteorite to look like You can imagine my excitement but still I am waiting for the test results. Although I must say that I told this story to hundreds of people. Ann Sprague asked me to have Ted Bunch contact her because she would like to do testing on the stone at her lab as well. I am only hopeful that it turns out to be an aubrite. There again, mercurian origin confirmation would simply be a bonus. But even with numbers of people who are already hopeful of it being something new and exciting beating down the door to get a piece, I have not commited to sell any of these three stones nor any of the other amazing meteorites that were only on display in my room and not priced or labeled and I have not promoted them, although it appears that the competition has already done that for me. It sounds like the Hupes may know before I do what these beauties will turn out to be. And as for Farmers ranting and raving and dealer envy, I hate to stoop to your level Farmer, but shut up and move to Panama. Wait, maybe the whole Panama thing was a joke or a lie or a sales ploy. Sincerely, Edwin Thompson
RE: [meteorite-list] Oriented or not?
Sorry.NOT. But it is as oriented as some of the bricks you see on ebay. See examples of true orientation: http://www.meteorite.ch/en/oriented/ Mark From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Oriented or not? Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:09:10 -0500 Campo iron. Three views. Oriented or not? I can't make up my mind. http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/campo-840g-regmaglypts.jpg http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/campo-840-back.jpg http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/campo-840-edge.jpg Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] fukang meteorite
Brahin is a ruster and is not even worth $1- per gram if you live in a humid climate. Re-read Steve's email. Fukang is owned by several people, not just one. Main mass is at U of A. The rest is on the market by numerous individuals. That is why Steve saw so much in Tucson. They are all trying to recoup their investment. Mark From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] fukang meteorite Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:08:34 +0100 Ho Steevey, it's very simple. Not the tkw makes the price, the availability does. Read your Kichinka! (Don't tell me, you haven't bought his book yet!) Why Esquel is still the king? Because of its beauty? Or its stability? No. Because it's mainly a single large mass and the owner was clever enough to sell it slowly. Is Brahin or Seymchan crap? No. It is as good or bad as many of the other pallasites in the 20-40$/g range and they are going only at half of the price of an horrible old Gold Basin, because the Russians are the collectors' best friends and the prices are only so low, because they pumped 4 times more specimens into market in only a few years as there are collectors. If they would have listed only the twentieth part of the material they sold on ebay and on shows, they'd have had more lifetime and the same revenues, and Steve Chicago would have to pay for Brahin or Seymchan 15$/g or more. Fukang is one single large mass (I saw a pic, impressive!!) and if the owner won't be so altruistic like the Russians, Steve, than you never will get it at a Brahin or even at a Brenham price. Time to celebrate our heroes! A toast on Serge Afanasjev, a toast on Ivan Koutyriev, a toast on Andrei Andrejewitch Anderson Andreew!! And more respect from the collectors for them as they achieved to make available with their ebay orgies the fanciest stuff even to the collector with the lowest budget. They brought there down the price of - Richfield from 25-40$/g to 1$ - Kainsaz from 45-150$/g to 2.5$ - Dronino from 4$ to 0.1 - Vengerovo would have been good for 20-25$/g -- 2.5$ - Dho 007 from 25-40$ to 1.5$ - Moon from 3500-5000$ to 500$ and three times they achieved the historical world record with 100$-150$ for 1g- slices - Brahin from 6-10$ (and before 20$) to 0.3$ - Seymchan from unavailable to 0.3$ - Chinga from 2.5$ to 0.3$ - Dho-Mars, where you have to pay now 500$/g+, they got 100$ - Tsarev from 2.5$ to 0.4$ - Markovka from 3$ to 0.6$ - Polujamki from 3$ to 0.4$ - Classified Dho-OCs with all find data 100$/kg, hence lower than many unclassified NWA-orphans. - Ghubara from 1.5$ to 0.2$ - Muonionalusta from 6$ (after the new finds, before - better not ask) to 0.3$ - Morasko from 2.5$ to 0.4$ - Sikhote-Alin! Without their help you'd pay 5$ and more. - and currently they work hard to bring for you the unavailable Budulan MES under the level of an old Vaca Muerta! I can understand, that many US-dealers on this list recieve rare reviews and are ehthusiastically praised, what I don't understand, is ,that I never heard a paean of praise here for the Russians, who should be the true heroes of each collector! Buckleboo! Martin - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 11:30 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] fukang meteorite Well after all the emails.After all the mention of looking for a piece of this meteorite,I came home with none.There were 4 meteorite dealers who had it forsale.They were selling it for between $12 and $20 a gram.And after hearing all the stories about it,there is ALOT of this stuff to go around.Bud eisler,mike farmer,Ann black,all had some forsale.But like I also heard,after a few months it will be lower than $10 a gram.The market will be flooded with this meteorite.But if you have not seen it,it is beautiful.It has the largest olivine crystals I have even seen.Esquel is still the king.Some fukang someday.But not today.I will just enjoy my new haag pieces. Steve Arnold,Chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [meteorite-list] tucson 2006,days 4 and 5
Steve I heard that Matteo donated some T-shirts for Michael Blood's auction. Did you take a photo of the shirts with your new camera. I heard that they were very nice. Did anyone take photos of the auction and Matteo's T-shirts? Thanks guys. Mark From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] tucson 2006,days 4 and 5 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 07:01:20 +0100 (CET) --- Steve Arnold, Chicago!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Well that's all from the meteorite capital of the world. you have never seen Ensisheim show? Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] tucson 2006,days 4 and 5
How would you know? You have never been out of Italy little boy. Mark From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] tucson 2006,days 4 and 5 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 07:01:20 +0100 (CET) --- Steve Arnold, Chicago!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Well that's all from the meteorite capital of the world. you have never seen Ensisheim show? Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] fukang (the neverending thread)/what country isthe hardest to get meteorites from?
Steve. If you want the best bang for your buck with a pallasite. Try SEYMCHAN, stable and beautiful. FAR less $ per gram than Imilac, Esquel, or even the mysterious Fukang. Spend your money wisely for a change. Mark From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] fukang (the neverending thread)/what country isthe hardest to get meteorites from? Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 19:31:34 -0800 (PST) Good evening list.With tucson rapidly approaching,I really hope that there is some of the fukang pallasite available.I have never seen such secrecy surrounding a meteorite.Well if there is some there I am going to buy a piece.Any thought on what the availibility will be?Also while I am thinking about it,which country is the hardest to obtain meteorites from?CANADA,AUSTRALIA,CHINA,etc.I am wondering if some others might be able to shead some thought on this. steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mutha Stone
Now, there is the $64,000 question. The silence from the owners is deafening. Mark From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mutha Stone Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:12:09 -0800 On the subject of the Fukang Mutha Stone, how was this legally exported from China? Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: AW: [meteorite-list] dong qinqin je and fukang
How much did the piece that was in Butterfields auction earlier this month sell for? I think it was about a Kilogram but I lost the link that was posted. Mark From: Andreas Gren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] dong qinqin je and fukang Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:26:33 +0100 Hi List, Hi Marcin, there were slices at Eger Spacrocks and one Table with 8-12 pieces in the 500 to 1000 g range, don't remember the seller. Regards Andi -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Marcin Cimala Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Dezember 2005 12:31 An: M come Meteorite Meteorites; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] dong qinqin je and fukang where is this 900 kg. of this pallasite, for the moment I have seen only 3-4 slices for salein Munich many have say not have seen any piece of this pallasite. Matteo this time I must agree with Matteo. I not see any piece of Fukang in Munich. Some of people I know also first time hear about this fact from this list emails. So or this pieces was under table material not for our eyes or we should look for meteorites also on non marrocan-tables. But if there is 900kg and Tucson will be swamped with it so why Munich was not swamped with it ? So who saw any Fukang in Munich ? Any photos ? How much pieces was there ? -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: AW: [meteorite-list] dong qinqin je and fukang
I wonder why it did not sell at Butterfields, where movie stars attend auctions? If I remember correctly it was estimated to sell at $20 per gram. I wonder how high the highest bid was, since it did not meet reserve? Mark From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark Rexburg [EMAIL PROTECTED],meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] dong qinqin je and fukang Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 09:33:08 -0700 It did not sell. It was poorly prepared and overpriced. Michael Farmer - Original Message - From: Mark Rexburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:32 AM Subject: RE: AW: [meteorite-list] dong qinqin je and fukang How much did the piece that was in Butterfields auction earlier this month sell for? I think it was about a Kilogram but I lost the link that was posted. Mark From: Andreas Gren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] dong qinqin je and fukang Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:26:33 +0100 Hi List, Hi Marcin, there were slices at Eger Spacrocks and one Table with 8-12 pieces in the 500 to 1000 g range, don't remember the seller. Regards Andi -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Marcin Cimala Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Dezember 2005 12:31 An: M come Meteorite Meteorites; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] dong qinqin je and fukang where is this 900 kg. of this pallasite, for the moment I have seen only 3-4 slices for salein Munich many have say not have seen any piece of this pallasite. Matteo this time I must agree with Matteo. I not see any piece of Fukang in Munich. Some of people I know also first time hear about this fact from this list emails. So or this pieces was under table material not for our eyes or we should look for meteorites also on non marrocan-tables. But if there is 900kg and Tucson will be swamped with it so why Munich was not swamped with it ? So who saw any Fukang in Munich ? Any photos ? How much pieces was there ? -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] trade offer/53 gram of esquel pallasite
I have a great idea, everybody. Before anyone offers anything for sale, they should email Matteo to ask him how much the asking price should be. Then all pricing would be perfect.in the eyes of the Italian Stallion. Mark - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] trade offer/53 gram of esquel pallasite but not exaggerated, here is ask over $35/gr. when esquel is sold for max $25/gr. Matteo --- Pete Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: I guess that mean market not in ruin anymore! Prices money more making! From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] trade offer/53 gram of esquel pallasite Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:50:51 +0100 (CET) $2000 value? I have pay the same weight $1063 1 year ago. Matteo --- Steve Arnold, Chicago!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hi and good evening list.I have a 53 gram slice of ESQUEL pallasite for trade.It is a $2000 value.I am looking for rare us falls or rare aussie falls.Or any nevada falls.Let me know what you have off list. steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Messenger: chiamate gratuite in tutto il mondo http://it.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - 77 Auctions Ending, Great Stuff! hors d'oeuvres... and now Pions
Is anyone else getting tired of this stupid thread? Get a dictionary guys and lets get back to meteorites. Mark From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - 77 Auctions Ending,Great Stuff! hors d'oeuvres... and now Pions Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:42:32 -0500 On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 20:12:22 -0700, Gene Dees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael wrote: Dean, Are pions anything like peons? They are negatively charged pies. They are violently attracted to the faces of positively charged people ... it's a lot like what goes on in a 3 Stooges pie fight. Not particle physics fans, I see. :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pion http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/particles/hadron.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 869 - approved by NomCom
Matteo, lei è idiota. Welcome back Steve Arnold. Mark From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 869 - approved by NomCom Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:34:58 +0100 (CET) Its all classificated from 2004 and this is not appear in the last bulletin, when other meteorites, found 4-5 months ago is immediatly appear in the last bulletin...many strange this. My laboratory have sent several emails with all analysis ready, but not have received any answer! The meteorites its classificated from Museo di Scienze Planetarie of Prato, well know from the Met.Society and for every piece I have give 20 grams or the 20% of the mass. happy Farmer? --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Matteo, cant you just be happy? One of the worlds top meteorite scientists gives us good news and again, you come back with a smart remark whining about something. Here are some questions for you. Who classified your meteorites? Who submitted them? Were the proper type specimens donated? I know a lot of people refuse to submit the type specimen and still expect their meteorites to be accepted. I bet there is a reason yours did not show up. Mike Farmer Thanks Jeff, that will greatly assist all of us who have NWA 869. - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 869 - approved by NomCom well, now I hope to see listed my other 80 NWA's I am under waith to see in the met.bulletinand the others Matteo --- Jeff Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: It's finally happened: NWA 869 has been recognized as an official meteorite name by the Nomenclature Committee. Thanks again to all of you who wrote to me last summer with info on this. jeff http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?code=31890 Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184 US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Questions regarding Unclassified meteorite sales
Dude you need to wake up to the reality of Northwest Africa. There are not enough labs on earth to classify every stone found. Just look at the backlog of Antartic meteorites. It took nearly 10 years to discover that ALH84001 was Martain. Mark From: Kevin Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Questions regarding Unclassified meteorite sales Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 02:35:16 +1100 G'day list, my feelings on unclassified NWA's. This repsents the ultimate rape of science. What can be told about an unclassified NWA. In short, nothing, apart from, I think it is a meteorite and I think it came from somewhere in Nth West Africa. You wouldn't know if it was part of a large or small fall, since no details on it's find location are noted. You wouldn't know if you had a highly altered chondrite or an achondrite. The nation where the item was found has also lost part of its own national treasure as an undocumented theft. Meteorites provide an insight to the wonders of our universe, and all information should be documented. These items are generally sliced up and sold before they are ever ( and in most cases never studuied ) studied by anyone anywhere. Think of all the lost knowledge humanity as a whole is suffering because of this. Think of all of the thousands of kilos of stones that may unlock some secret of the universe or our solar systems formation, that will never ever come to light because they sit on a shelf at a collectors home, never to be studied. Shame world, shame. Should a NWA be studied and found to be an insight to something, can we go and get more of it. NO, we have no idea of where it came from or how much of it made land fall. For example., What is the Lat. and Lon. the specimen was found at? Unknown. What is the country of origin? Unknown. Who found it? Unknown. When was it found? Unknown. What was the total mass of the fall? Unkown. What is the area of material distribution? (Fall ellipse). Unknown. I collect the occasional unclassified NWA with the intention of forwarding them to the correct places and people to study, they may take as much of the specimen as they deem neccesary. It is akin to an archealogical site being robbed of its items with no regard to the location, depth, age, pieces that go with this or that, and just sold to the first bod that comes along, Here ya are mate, some ancient treasure. I currently have several kilos. Not an awful lot. I'd buy all of them if I had enough folding stuff, but I'd rather get some nice studied material, read about it all and ponder the sample in front of me, and learn to identify the various specifics as studied. The individual nomads that collect these stones in the desert are only thinking of themselves. How much food they can get with the money, or weapons they might buy. They are not interested in science or their countries national treasures or heritage. What can you tell me about an unclassified NWA? Cheers, Kevin, VK3UKF. On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:03:31 -0800 (PST), Pat Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will some of you share your thoughts on why unclassified meteorite sales are discouraged? I haven't really heard of the sales being discouraged. All I know of is a very few dealers spreading sour grapes about what the NWA rush has done to their high prices. (The market is in ruin and NWAs support terrorists being two claims that come to mind). I have collected meteorites for about 10 years now and have purchased some unclassified NWA meteorites from sellers on eBay. The 500 to 1000 gram meteorites are selling at attractive prices. Is the practice of It looks like uncut unclassifed NWAs in non-reserve auctions are tending to go for less than 5 cents per gram now. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
