Re: [meteorite-list] Someone of you knows this meteorite?
There is no Eagle Butte meteorite. Instead, i believe it's the name of a suspected impact structure in Canada. The pieces look like slag to me but ya never know. Brad Sampson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.angelfire.com/me2/meteorites - Original Message - From: Matteo Chinellato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteoritecentral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 5:16 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Someone of you knows this meteorite? Hello all http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1068089590 I have look on Catalogue of Meteorites but I no have find.someone know? Regards Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] California
The weather is unusual right now. The average temperature here in Ky. should be in the 30's. It's about 65 right now. I think we must have swapped weather. Brad Sampson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.angelfire.com/me2/meteorites - Original Message - From: meteorite1.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:09 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] California Hello List, You know the one about a snowballs chance in hell, well I am in Perris,California near March AFB it is snowing. Jim __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA LUNAR and MARTIAN
I heard it's good on salad as well. Comes in handy if you're short on croutons. Brad Sampson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.angelfire.com/me2/meteorites - Original Message - From: Frank Cressy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA LUNAR and MARTIAN Eating Murchison again Cottingham? Or is it Allende? I swear the DEA is gonna get hip to folks eating meteorites. MC I ate some lunar once...but all that happened was I got a craving for fondue ;-) Frank __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Looking
I'm looking for a nice example from the following locales: Sikhote Allende Canyon Diablo Let me know whatcha got. I would prefer to trade for them. Thanks a bunch! Brad Sampson[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [meteorite-list] Togetherness is next to Dogliness
I have my own theory surrounding the origin of tektites. I believe they may have something to do with deposits made by Ivan's 4 foot tall bunny rabbits. ;-) PS: This theory also applies to John Blennert's Holbrook meteorwrongs Brad Sampson [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 4:33 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Togetherness is next to Dogliness Open letter to Ron Baalke, Dog Devotee: If you can come up with an idea on how the two of us, combining my uncanny layman's ability to gather mountains of eye-blurring, brain-numbing data, refining it to its purest essence of truth, with your professional skill at instantaneously transferring space-related news to this message board (general pause here to light a delightful Cuban cigar, an Esplendido, purchased in the Dominican) can resolve the truth to this legend, tell me what exactly you propose that we do together, here on the list for all to enjoy. Really, come up with a plan that's science, and not science fiction, and let's work together. Meanwhile, the original Nakhla article is posted on Dave Weirs website http://www.geocities.com/~dweir/ for those who care to review the full proofs I offered. You'll find the Tale of the Dog towards the very end of the article. For the record, I believe a valid investigation looks at what people said, what people did, what physical evidence exists to support a claim. I don't believe it's in anyone's interest to claim that something might have happened because of an alleged act of omission. I might have been a baseball player if I had learned to pitch. Hence, no one really knows if I'm a baseball player. As far as your speculation that the meteorite presented by the farmer to the journalist-the one the farmer claimed left the dog like ashes/killed/maimed/raped/annoyed - came from Denshal, 30 or so kms. from a 5km strewnfield - I will add this Pawn to King's Bishop's Pawn -check speculation He brought the meteorite with him from the distant strewnfield. He had time for a travel day. I didn't write this in the Meteorite feature because there's no proof. It is possible though, right? I'm very uncomfortable with your insistance with ignoring all of the investigations done by professional people in the field, but when the illiterate farmer gets the day wrong, you find reasons that that's OK. Why are some parts that are translated OK, but others not? There's no dog in sight, but that's OK, too. And don't worry about the fact that no one else saw a dog, that's OK, too. But if I say that the celebrity-seeking farmer brought the stone from far away, what is your response to that speculation? Please tell me. Ultimately, I'm honored that you chose me as your life long adversary. I will try to be worthy. But I'm still waiting for proof from you that a dog was hit by a meteorite. I didn't read any in your summary. (Playing Devil's (sic) advocate) - Maybe the word dog was mistranslated. Maybe God was hit by a meteorite. No one's seen him/her either, and we all believe.. A woman is just a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke - E.Hemingway That's the truth! So what do you propose we do together, Ron? Meanwhile, it's been awhile since we discussed a lunar origin for tektites Kevin Kichinka __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CR2 prices ruin......
Yes i compare prices on a daily basis. I have been dealing with meteorites for 9 years and i spend aprox. 6 hours a day comp shopping other dealers websites and Ebay. I would like to know howi amprofiting from discussing the reasons as to why Moroccan finds are dropping in price?That's the purpose of this list afterall is to discuss meteorites. Matteo brought up the subject in the firstplaceso don't go attackingme like i popped up out of the blue and startedknocking NWA's. NWA's are perfectly fine if that's what you like. I've actually sold a few myself which i got named and am having analyzed. I just said that Moroccan finds seem to suffer from the wildest price swings when compared to other meteorites. I mentioned a Kansas stone as an example becausethere are a great number of finds that were plowed, (or ploughed),up in Kansas. Probably moreso than any other state.I would like to change my previousexample to Texas in case anyone else is offended by a fictitious meteorite from the state of Kansas and feel that i'm somehow trying to "promote" something. Wagon Moundis being offered for the same price i offeredit for years ago. Valera was intially offered for $8g-$10g, so $6g on Ebay isn't far off the norm since most meteorites sell for less at Ebay.The Russian meteorites you mentioned areSELLING for2 or3 times the Ebay prices once you go outside of Ebay. Murchison has always been $75g except in small fragments where it has and still does list for $100g. Actually, for your information, i bought a crusted Murchison about 5YEARS ago for $40g. I guess that means it's almost doubled invalue since it's at $75g on Ebay now, right? Pricescan be deceptive since they vary based upon the size of the piece and the quality. If youweren't enticed bymy new Kansas meteoriteon Ebay whenit wasat $1.00 that's OK.I'm not sure what untrue facts i "spit" out for profit, maybe you can point them out to me. Brad Sampson[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK To: Meteordealer ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] CR2 prices ruin.. Since you are compare market pricesON A DAILY BASISand only seem to notice Zagami and Kapoeta has dropped in price. I will bring up a few ither then Brahin. Lets see Chinga Sikhoteoh theres a big one... How about Wagon Mound? Thats stable right? Valera? When it came out it was $10.00 a gram. Let me know how much you want for say $6.00 a gram. Murchison was hitting close to a hundred a gram a year ago and sells for around $75 a gram now. I think that is just an EXAMPLE of the currant meteorite market. As far as you selling Shergottite for $75a gramlets hope they had better experience with you then I did. Itsn't it strange to see you attack NWA's and promote US finds and mention a Kansas stone shortly after you start selling one? As many list members know I live in Kansas and have been recently collecting Kansas meteorites more. Your $1.00 eBay starting bids wasn't enticing to me.. List members know I have not attack others on the list before...although I have felt attacked at times. But when someone is going to spit out untrue facts for their own profit.. Thats my 10 cents worth. Mark Bostick "The Big Collector" - Original Message ----- From: Meteordealer Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] CR2 prices ruin.. What instability??? Most legitimate finds and falls ARE holding steady.I'm a dealer. I compare the market prices of many meteorites on a dailybasis. Just about all of them i look at are the same price they've alwaysbeen or more. Zagami and Kapoeta are about the only ones i can think of thathave tanked. Mainly because at the time they were just about the only SNCand Howardite you could get. People were willing to pay an arm and a leg toget one so they could fill that hole in their collection, thus the inflatedprice. Their price was based upon the rarity of the material. Now SNC's andHowardite's are everywhere thus the novelty has worn off and the price hasgone down. As far as dealers "dumping" the old stuff to get cash doesn'taffect the retail value unless they unload a large percentage of the TKW.Whoever buys it from them will most likely keep it or re-sell it for aprofit so in a sense the price will stay the same. The TKW of MOSTlegitimate finds and falls is pretty well known so the supply isn't going togo up and kill the value as it does with NWA's. If a farmer in Kansas plowsup a 10kg stone and a search is conducted yielding no further material, thenyou could say the TKW is 10kg. A price per gram will be set on that materi
[meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin......
Legitimate meaning it has a unique name and we know where, when, total mass, how, and by whom it was found. Also meaning that the appropriate lab work and pairing has been done. Have any meteorites other than an NWA lost 95% of their value in a 24 hour period? Not that i recall. Are most NON NWA's with the exception of a few still selling at about the same price as they always have? Yes. Brad Sampson [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Michael Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteordealer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:41 AM Subject: CR2 prices ruin.. Meteordealer wrote: What instability??? Most legitimate finds and falls ARE holding steady. I'm a dealer. I compare the market prices of many meteorites on a daily basis. Just about all of them i look at are the same price they've always been or more... Brad Sampson __ Well Brad, Let's get this strait: there is no (price) instability, there are legitimate falls and finds - meaning, I suppose, the others (NWA, in particular) are illagitimate and prices are holding steady. You have enlightened me to such a degree I have placed your emial in the folder I formerly reserved for posts from Mohamed and I don't mean Ali. Keep on truckin', dude. Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lafayette
It does qualify. Lafayette has a unique name, the total mass is documented, we know roughly were it came from but not EXACTLY, we know Mr. Farrington found it in 1931 while it resided in Purdue University's collection, and the proper lab work and pairing has been done. Brad Sampson[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Randy Mils To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin..LAST WORD Brad: I see you had to wait until school was out until you answered my questions. You still did not address how your definition of legit meteorites relates to Lafayette which clearly does not fit according to your definition. CR2 did not fall in price over a few days as you stated. It took a year and the NWA CR2 was never $300- per gram. Anyone who pays $4 to $5 per gram for Brahim is just asking for trouble with this ruster. And those who follow your advice to buy it and hold it for the future will find that the future holds nothing but a pile of rust and olivine crystals. Same with Brenham. There are a few execptions depending on the sample but I would not want to make the bet. Randy From: "Meteordealer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin..LAST WORD Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 16:56:38 -0500 No problem. NWA CR2's have lost 95% of their value practically overnight. One day they were $300g, a few days later they were $15g, hence the entire reason this discussion was started, Matteo was upset that the price of his NWA CR2's had crashed. Have you noticed that the Temple Bar, Arizona CR2 is still going for $300g-$500g despite what is happening with the Moroccan's? What's the current value on Renazzo (CR2), $350g-$400g? <ALSO, just for Wagon Mound selling what sold per gram when it was first found. This is not a true statement.> Wagon Mound currently lists between $1.50g-$2.50g. That's the same price i was selling it for 2 years ago. There are 2 pieces of WM on Ebay that just sold for $2.28g and $11.72g. Brahin could be found online about 4 years ago for $4.50g-$5.00g. If you go outside of Ebay it is still listed for $4g-$5.00g and selling for that price i might add. I sold out of Brahin last Summer for $4.00g. I had a collector email me a couple of weeks ago wanting some Brahin or Brenham. He said he was willing to pay $5g for a nice slice in the 100g range. Ebay is not the end all be all determining factor of meteorite value. You also have to factor in website prices, private sale prices, and offline mail order prices. Don't be fooled by the artificially low Ebay prices for Brahin. I would suggest buying as much Brahin as you can as the price will be shooting back up as soon as Ivan runs out. That is all i have to say on the subject. If anyone needs clarification as to why rare types of NWA's are crashing feel free to email me PRIVATELY as i no longer wish to bore the list members with this endless debate. This dead horse has been beaten long enough. ;-) Brad Sampson [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Randy Mils To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin.. Brad: Based upon your criteria of a "legitimate" meteorite, Lafayette does not qualify. We do not know for sure when, where or by whom on Lafayette. Please educate us on which NWA meteorite lost 95% of it's value in 24 hours. Was this just another of your broad, sweeping statements made for shock value? Also, Wagon Mound is not selling for what it sold per gram when it was first found. This is just not a true statement. Actually I remember when one dealer had a sale in which he GAVE AWAY a sample of Wagon Mound with every purchase. Does this lower the value to zero. No, not anymore than a sale on any commodity at a retail store. Brahin once sold for $10- per gram. Now it can be bought on ebay for less than $1- sometimes. How much are you selling it for on your website? You seem to have omitted the price on this one. http://www.angelfire.com/me2/meteorites/ Randy From: "Meteordealer" To: Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin.. Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:06:50 -0500 "Legitimate" meaning it has a unique name and we know where, when, total mass, how, and by whom it was found. Also meaning that the appropriate lab work and pairing has been done. Have any meteorites other than an NWA lost 95% of their value in a 24 hour period? Not that i recall. Are most NON NWA's with the exception of a few still selli
Re: [meteorite-list] Brenham
I have found it to be about 50/50. Some were found in flooded areas and some in dry areas. It's basically a crap shoot as to which variety you get. The old Brahin for the most part is very stable. Has anyone tried any of the chemical treatments previously discussedin attempt to stabilize the rusters? Brad Sampson[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK To: meteorite-list Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Brenham I think what Famer means is the later recovered Brahin that has flooded that market. It is unstable! Or at least the piece I bought is. A campo slice stood next to my Brahin in my display case. The Campo has one tiny spot of rust. The Brahin in about 6 monthsfell into three pieces. Rust seems to form in lines that jagged around the olivine. The Campo rust did not spread. I was told by someone I wont mention that the nuclear accident was somewhat close to the find spot and this is the reason. I dont think I believe that but figured I would share it. For whatever thats worth, Mark Bostick - Original Message - From: Bernd Pauli HD Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 4:47 PM To: meteorite-list Subject: [meteorite-list] Brenham Randy wrote: a pile of rust and olivine crystals. Same with Brenham. There are a few execptions depending on the sample ...Hello All!It seems I am one of the lucky ones who has got one of these exceptions.I bought my 195-gram Brenham slice about 15 years ago and it still looksexactly the same. It is a very stable specimen but I must admit thoughthat I've kept it in one of my three desiccators most of the time.Best wishes,Bernd__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted
Maybe i should re-phrase that. hehe :-) Brad Sampson[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted In a message dated 1/18/2002 4:13:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm looking for a good flat lap. OK, noweveryone, behave yourselves. ;-)
Re: [meteorite-list] CR2 prices ruin......
Actually, the only prices being forced down tremendously are other Moroccan finds. Legitimate finds and falls have held steady with many steadily rising in price, especially American and European meteorites. I have watched several common American chondrites rise in price 2 or 3 fold just over the past 6 months or so. It appears that collectors are becoming tired of NWA's and other Moroccan finds are beginning to revert back to recognized, named, falls and finds and are willing to pay a premium to do so. Don't get me wrong, Moroccan meteorites are a blessing to those who couldn't afford the rare types before but unfortunately they are also VERY volatile in their value. A lot of people were saying that the Moroccan flood would be the downfall of the meteorite market but it appears to have actually strengthened the market, at least as far as NON Moroccan meteorites are concerned. Brad Sampson [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Michael Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Verish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 5:54 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] CR2 prices ruin.. Rob, Matteo and all, I just gotta laugh! As I been sayin' in my column in VOYAGE!, the meteorite market has not been this good since the 60s 70s. The flood of material from Africa, and, more importantly, the American buyers' invasion of Africa have forced prices down tremendously! Now, I have actually had a respected dealer tell me he LIKED the guy who stole from a museum, ...because he drove the prices up on meteorites to what they are really worth. Are you shi..ing me!? What is WRONG with some dealers that they somehow think HIGH prices are better than low prices??? I don't get it. My customers still spend about the same amount of $ with me - they just get MORE for their $! AND, I have never been so prolific in adding to my collection! In the last year and a half, I have nearly trippled my collection! - more, if you count in terms of value or rarity instead of just # of pieces. Why? BECAUSE I CAN AFFORD TO! If a customer spends $100 with me now and gets 10 grams of something, how is that less desirable than 2 years ago he spent $100 with me and got 1 gram of the same material? I still mark up the same % - well, a little less, but basically, I am making a percentage - and my customer is getting MUCH more for his $! AND I can also get much more (in meteorites) for MY $ for my own collection. So, where is the down side? Well, there IS a down side - but ONLY for dealers. One can no longer afford to buy ANYTHING and sit on it for ANY amount of time! You gotta buy/sell almost overnight - that is why I do sell stuff for less % markup now - GOTTA move it - it might go down in price. Now, I definately HAVE sold stuff that way only to have it go UP in price - sometimes by a lot, but hay, I made my mark up and played it safe. Time was, no matter how much I bought, it was a GREAT investment, as it could only go up (with very few exceptions). Now, no one knows day to day - but, GREAT buys to be had! When Africa dries up, as it most certainly will, THESE will be the days we look back on as THE GOLDEN YEARS. It might be in 4 months or 4 years or even more, but you can be SURE this glut will stop - and when it does, supply/demand will quickly drive prices up. So, I get all I can of as much stuff as I can and save as big a piece as possible of everything for my own collection NOW - in time, sooner or later, it will be back up in price, making getting more very, very difficult. Each and every one of us will, one day, kick ourselves in the ass, and say, MAN, I could have gotten as much as I wanted of - for $ a gram back in ought two! Hay, what days we live in, eh? Best wishes, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CR2 prices ruin......
What instability??? Most legitimate finds and falls ARE holding steady. I'm a dealer. I compare the market prices of many meteorites on a daily basis. Just about all of them i look at are the same price they've always been or more. Zagami and Kapoeta are about the only ones i can think of that have tanked. Mainly because at the time they were just about the only SNC and Howardite you could get. People were willing to pay an arm and a leg to get one so they could fill that hole in their collection, thus the inflated price. Their price was based upon the rarity of the material. Now SNC's and Howardite's are everywhere thus the novelty has worn off and the price has gone down. As far as dealers dumping the old stuff to get cash doesn't affect the retail value unless they unload a large percentage of the TKW. Whoever buys it from them will most likely keep it or re-sell it for a profit so in a sense the price will stay the same. The TKW of MOST legitimate finds and falls is pretty well known so the supply isn't going to go up and kill the value as it does with NWA's. If a farmer in Kansas plows up a 10kg stone and a search is conducted yielding no further material, then you could say the TKW is 10kg. A price per gram will be set on that material based on the purchase price, the total mass, and the classification. You don't have to worry about a nomad riding into town with another 100kg tied to his camel. That is the reason MOST legitimate finds are fairly stable in their price unless they are a VERY rare type. Brad Sampson [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Michael Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteordealer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 7:32 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] CR2 prices ruin.. Meteordealer wrote: Actually, the only prices being forced down tremendously are other Moroccan finds. Legitimate finds and falls have held steady with many steadily rising in price. Brad Sampson __ Brad and all, I must dissagree. PART of the instability is that some dealers who really count on sales for a living are selling some of the old stuff - at low enough prices to get cash NOW. I have never seen such a thing. But this does go on. For instance, I bought a VERY nice 2 gram Zagami for $588 a few months back. It was a VERY good price at the time. However, I made the mistake of not offering it for a couple of months. When I finally did, I offered it at $600 and got no takers. I later offered it at $500 and it sold and there were several who tried to get it AFTER it sold. So, right when I got it I probably could have sold it instantly for $750, but just a few months made a big difference. This is just one example. Zagami may well go UP in price equally as fast, and I believe it will inevitably do so, it is just a question of time. However, to say, Legitimate finds and falls have held steady with many steadily rising in price.. is simply mistaken. They are NOT steady at all. Now, I used to be the strongest advocate for meteorites as an investment. In fact, I never heard or read ANYONE say that before I did. Ironically, I feel it is true now more than ever. HOWEVER, it has gone from a short term to a long term investment FOR SURE. What a price will be a week or month from now is not at all stable regardless of pedegree. However, in 2 to 10 years from now is, in my opinion, a dramatic increase in prices is a slam dunk! Prices will go up VERY quickly..at some point. We just have no way of knowing now when that will be. But it SURE ain't stable now. (there ARE a few, but very few, exceptions: Canyon Diablo - they anin't makin' any more of that stuff, the same with Camel Donga and other rare, highly limited TKW materials and materials with a noted history - killed a horse, smashed a mailbox, etc.) Best wishes, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CR2 prices ruin......
I forgot to mention that one in my last posting. I'm sure it will start going up again once the supply runs low. Brad Sampson [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mark Miconi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:00 AM Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] CR2 prices ruin.. From: Mark Miconi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] CR2 prices ruin.. Brad, On Ebay this past year the price of Brahin Pallasite has dropped dramitcally. When I first thought about buying the samples I have, it was selling on Ebay for $5.00 - $7.00 a gram. I finally found it as it was on its way down at $2.00 a gram and recently Ivan has been averaging a $1.00 or less a gram. This 4583 gram beauty (http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1059147722) just sold for $4200.00 a MERE $0.91 a gram. There are alot of other examples of other types that are down also. I do not research every type...but it seems to me that there is a much better supply of all type on Ebay and on websites and to me they all seem to be down. Again I do not spend hours on research and at this time have my liquid assets invested in my wifes business so am not really buying. I have really been tempted by the ones I have looked at recently for my personal collection as the prices seemed to be more reasonable. My 2 cents...Mark M. - Original Message - From: Meteordealer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] CR2 prices ruin.. What instability??? Most legitimate finds and falls ARE holding steady. I'm a dealer. I compare the market prices of many meteorites on a daily basis. Just about all of them i look at are the same price they've always been or more. Zagami and Kapoeta are about the only ones i can think of that have tanked. Mainly because at the time they were just about the only SNC and Howardite you could get. People were willing to pay an arm and a leg to get one so they could fill that hole in their collection, thus the inflated price. Their price was based upon the rarity of the material. Now SNC's and Howardite's are everywhere thus the novelty has worn off and the price has gone down. As far as dealers dumping the old stuff to get cash doesn't affect the retail value unless they unload a large percentage of the TKW. Whoever buys it from them will most likely keep it or re-sell it for a profit so in a sense the price will stay the same. The TKW of MOST legitimate finds and falls is pretty well known so the supply isn't going to go up and kill the value as it does with NWA's. If a farmer in Kansas plows up a 10kg stone and a search is conducted yielding no further material, then you could say the TKW is 10kg. A price per gram will be set on that material based on the purchase price, the total mass, and the classification. You don't have to worry about a nomad riding into town with another 100kg tied to his camel. That is the reason MOST legitimate finds are fairly stable in their price unless they are a VERY rare type. Brad Sampson [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Michael Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteordealer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 7:32 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] CR2 prices ruin.. Meteordealer wrote: Actually, the only prices being forced down tremendously are other Moroccan finds. Legitimate finds and falls have held steady with many steadily rising in price. Brad Sampson __ Brad and all, I must dissagree. PART of the instability is that some dealers who really count on sales for a living are selling some of the old stuff - at low enough prices to get cash NOW. I have never seen such a thing. But this does go on. For instance, I bought a VERY nice 2 gram Zagami for $588 a few months back. It was a VERY good price at the time. However, I made the mistake of not offering it for a couple of months. When I finally did, I offered it at $600 and got no takers. I later offered it at $500 and it sold and there were several who tried to get it AFTER it sold. So, right when I got it I probably could have sold it instantly for $750, but just a few months made a big difference. This is just one example. Zagami may well go UP in price equally as fast, and I believe it will inevitably do so, it is just a question of time. However, to say, Legitimate finds and falls have held steady with many steadily rising in price.. is simply mistaken. They are NOT steady at all. Now, I used to be the strongest advocate for meteorites as an investment
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I have the following pieces available for sale or trade. If you're interested in some other sizes you can also try Robert Matson at [EMAIL PROTECTED]I can also trim down a larger piece if necessary so don't be afraid to ask. --- Lost Creek, Lincoln County, Kansas (H3.8)Found 1916TKW 4,018g (1) 0.9g part slice (2) 2.0g part slice (3) 2.3g part slice (4) 3.9g paper thin slice (5) 4.9g part slice (6) 5.1g part slice (7) 5.7g cut piece (8) 10.0g part slice (9) 10.8g part slice "SOLD" (10) 13.1g part slice (11) 13.5g part slice (12) 16.4g part slice (13) 27.9g part slice (14) 28.1g endcut (15) 31.3g half slice (16) 40.5g half slice (17) 46.7g half slice (18) 48.9g half slice (19) 72.3g half slice (20) 94.3g wedged slice (21) 175g full slice "SOLD" (22) 204.5g full slice (23) 208.7g full slice (24) 277g full slice (25) 298g full slice (26) 1,120g main mass This is a beautiful new meteorite that is being offered for the first time. It has a greyish blue colored matrix with greenish colored mottling. Some pieces display greenish coloredveins running across the matrix. This meteorite also contains numerous well defined chondrules, although the photos don't show them very well. If you've been waiting for an American H3.8 to come along so you could fill that hole in your collection then now is the time. There is onlyONE other H3.8 from the USA and it wasn't made available publicly to collectors. If you pass up this chance to snag an American H3.8 then good luck finding another one because there isn't one on the market. Email me directly for prices and photos as each piece is different. I am open to all tradesEXCEPTfor NWA's or other Moroccan finds. I ship anywhere in the world. PayPal is also accepted.Thanks! Sample photos: http://www.geocities.com/meteordealer_2000/LC7.jpg http://www.geocities.com/meteordealer_2000/lc8.jpg Brad Sampson[EMAIL PROTECTED]
