[meteorite-list] AD:SIX HUGE SEYMCHAN SLICES !!!!! 1.8 FOOT LONG !
Dear list, I have just received the visit of a Russian friend that brought with him 6 top huge slices of Seymchan. weight: 2164 g size 399 mm * 151 mm 1836 g size 478 mm * 163 mm 3566 g size 525 mm * 171 mm 4018 g size 537 mm * 181 mm 2984 g size 565 mm * 204 mm 3040 g size 563 mm * 199 mm Thickness varies from 3.5 mm to 10 mm. Very fine polishing and etching. These slices present uncommon chromite cristals, and extraordinary Widmanstatten figures. they deserve a look, at least! They will be the master center piece of any serious collection. Size average is more than a foot and a half ! Please have a look at http://www.caillou-noir.com/HUGE%20Seymchan.htm Serious offers will be considered. please email at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] First pay first serve. See my site for detailed infos about these rare slices. Best regards. Michel FRANCO IMCA 3869 Met Soc member since 1998. www. caillou-noir.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] buying pallasites
Hi Harlan and list, My Seymchan are not epoxy polished! See my page HUGE Seymchan slices on my web site. Best regards Michel www.caillou-noir.com -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de harlan trammell Envoye : mercredi 11 avril 2007 23:52 A : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : [meteorite-list] buying pallasites i have bought several russian pallasites that were mostly epoxy polished surfaces. can anyone recomment a reputable seller that sell seymchan or others that does NOT use fillers to make fake olivines? i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Katol classification and Sahara 03500 + Sahara 03505
Hello Bernd and James, and List. I have decided last month to come back to meteorites, pure coincidence! I have spent my last 5 years in photovoltaïcs. Photons and meteorites both fall from the sky, I do not feel having changed too much of activity!! Back to James's question. Sahara 03500 is still in my collection, one complete slice, the main mass and it should be examined in conjunction with " sister meteorite" Sahara 03505 which is pure sulfide iron of same composition as the 03500 sulfide iron clasts of Sahara 03500. And no relicts chondrules in Sahara 03500, so far. ( I have not said that these 2 meteorites are paired !!! but in my eyes these 2 meteorites come from same parent object, at least visually, they were found not far in the Sahara, and the only other iron sulfide are Antarctic meteorites.) I did not find record of Katol fall in Met bull. ( Bernd help needed as usual !!!) Some more about Sahara 03500 aka Tassa Mahchi, http://www.caillou-noir.com/TassaMahchi.htm and please click on the Clermont university link on that page. I will try to post better picts on that site when I open my meteorite storage at home. Have a good week end. Best regards. Michel Franco -Message d'origine- De : meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] De la part de James Cheshire Envoyé : samedi 23 mars 2013 20:39 À : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Objet : [meteorite-list] Katol classification Hi everyone, I was browsing David Weir's meteorite pages when I came upon the page for Sahara 03500, a primitive achondrite. While none of the photos I could find of this meteorite were very high-quality, it seems to me that this is the same kind of material as the Katol, India fall from May of last year. Any thoughts on this? James __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Retuerta del Bullaque was Re: New french meteorite ???
Se also http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=56577 best regards Michel Franco -Message d'origine- De : meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] De la part de Leoncio Cividanes Álvarez Envoyé : vendredi 29 mars 2013 16:37 À : Meteorite list Objet : Re: [meteorite-list] Retuerta del Bullaque was Re: New french meteorite ??? According to the video, the brothers where showing the cast, while the real one is located "Somewhere in Madrid, in a place whose name they don't care to remember"... but it's in the Museo Geominero http://www.igme.es/museo/novedades/meteorito.htm (there also explain about the casting). Best regards, Leo > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:28:37 +0100 > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > From: karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de > Subject: [meteorite-list] Retuerta del Bullaque was Re: New french meteorite ??? > > ADDITION: > > Well, maybe it's not always the cast that is shown in each picture because apparently the cast and the original were both presented to the journalists according to the video footage. > > Martin > > > Von: "karmaka" > An: "Michael Brooks" , > petersche...@rcn.com > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] New french meteorite ??? > Datum: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:08:20 +0100 > > Marcin, Peter, list members, > > It IS manmade and it is in Spain ! > > The photo shows the two brothers with the cast of the 'Retuerta del > Bullaque' meteorite that is exhibited in Madrid. > > You can see that it is the cast if you have a look at this. A very > strong man lifting a 100 kg meteorite. ;-) > > http://youtube.googleapis.com/v/m2hBsvmWjIE?version=2&autohide=2 > > For more information check out these links: > > http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=56577 > > http://www.igme.es/museo/novedades/meteorito.htm > > > http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2F > www.eldiario.es%2Fpolitica%2Ffamilia-manchega-guarda-meteorito-anos_0_ > 115488872.html > > Videos: > > http://youtube.googleapis.com/v/lJu9Zhlq1Xo?version=2&autohide=1 > > http://youtube.googleapis.com/v/df8wyZiykyw?autohide=2&version=2 > > Best > > Martin > > > Von: Michael Brooks > An: Peter Scherff > Cc: "" > > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] New french meteorite ??? > Datum: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 06:30:41 +0100 > > Looks man made. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 28, 2013, at 6:13 PM, "Peter Scherff" wrote: > > > Here is a link to the story: > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2300445/Rock-used-Spani > sh-far > mer-press-ham-30-years-turns-iron-meteorite-worth-3-5m.html > > > > Peter > > > > -Original Message- > > From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of > Marcin > Cimala > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 9:08 PM > To: > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > Subject: [meteorite-list] New french meteorite ??? > > > > Helo > > I heard tooday in radio news that new 100kg iron meteorite was > recognized in > France. Someone after seeing TV program about > meteorite hunting > (MeteoriteMen ??) got a clue that he have > meteorite in his house brought > from fields many years before. > > > > Dos anyone have any idea if its true ? > > > > -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- > > http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl > > http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com > > http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 > [ Member of > Polish Meteoritical Society ] > > > > > __ > > > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ > > > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteorite
Re: [meteorite-list] Spain Super Bolide 13APR2013
Hi List, This one should be for Pierre Marie Pelé...as Villalbetto de la Pena. Best regards. Michel Franco -Message d'origine- De : meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] De la part de drtanuki Envoyé : lundi 15 avril 2013 17:46 À : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Objet : [meteorite-list] Spain Super Bolide 13APR2013 List, Spain had a good event! http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/04/spain-super-bolide-meteor-1 3apr2013.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD;the recent new fall for sale
Hello Said Thanks for your offer. Have you any details about this fall: where it fell, date of fall. Thanks to give me your best price of list. Best regards Michel Franco IMCA # 3869 Met Soc member. -Message d'origine- De : meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] De la part de Said Haddany Envoyé : samedi 25 mai 2013 02:08 À : meteorites mailing Objet : [meteorite-list] AD;the recent new fall for sale Hi list, we have nice and complet pieces of the recent new fall from Mouritania for sales click here http://s947.photobucket.com/user/SaidHaddany/media/newfall1_zps4e56c8de.jpg. html to see how it looks like in the inside click the link below http://s947.photobucket.com/user/SaidHaddany/media/newfall_zps1b9b75d8.jpg. html?sort=4&o=7 pricing off list Said Haddany I.M.C.A # 8108 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NEW Shock Melt Eucrite - NWA 8036 - AD
Hi Greg Thank you for the info and nice picts indeed. I can't find 8036 in Met Bull data base. Would you update the documentation of this amazing stone. Best regards Michel Franco IMCA 3869 -Message d'origine- De : meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] De la part de Greg Hupé Envoyé : mercredi 25 septembre 2013 21:49 À : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Objet : [meteorite-list] NEW Shock Melt Eucrite - NWA 8036 - AD Dear List Members, I would like to announce a new Shock Melt Eucrite - NWA 8036, a "Kaleidoscope of Cosmic Colors"! In order to get you right to the images and all available specimens priced at less than 50% of retail value, please check them out here along with some submitted classification information: http://www.naturesvault.net/meteorites/nwa8036.html I hope you enjoy this new meteorite, it is one of my favorites!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog & Reference Site) www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest & eBay) http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] test
Delete please. Tks Michel IMCA 3869 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Book on Oriented Meteorites just out
Hello Michael, Just brillant , I look forward to receive my Cafepress copy. Regards Michel Franco aka Kayunwar IMCA 3869 -Message d'origine- De : meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] De la part de Michael Blood Envoyé : jeudi 24 octobre 2013 00:00 À : Meteorite List Objet : [meteorite-list] Book on Oriented Meteorites just out The new book is just out: ASPECTS OF METEORITE ORIENTATION (Thanks to Jim Tobin for his assistance) CHAPTERS: 1: Definition Of Orientation 2: The Effect Of Orientation On Perceived Value 3: A Proposed Rating System 4: Domed Meteorites 5: Shields 6: Nosecones 7: Teardrops & Bullets 8: Flow Lines 9: Lipping 10: Back Side Pooling & Bubbling 11: Regmaglypting 12: Unique Shapes & Characteristics 13. Flight Markings Vs. Oriented Thanks to the 35 photographers who contributed one to 5 photographs each, added to my own - which are used to illustrate Degrees of various aspects of orientation. This book can be ordered directly from Café Press: http://www.cafepress.com/aspectsofmeteoriteorientation.962142181 If you just want to see the cover: http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/AspectsOfMeteoriteOrientation.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Hellon I wander if the vote counter works right? I made a vote that did not appeared in the right colomn. Is there any delay in displaying the votes ? Regards. Michel Franco IMCA 3969 -Message d'origine- De : meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] De la part de valpar...@aol.com Envoyé : mardi 12 novembre 2013 08:00 À : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Objet : [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: VOTE Contributed by: Hominis Mysterium http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Nice bull's eye chondrule indeed. Thanks to Bern's eagle eye;-)... Regards Michel Franco IMCA 3869 -Message d'origine- De : meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] De la part de valpar...@aol.com Envoyé : jeudi 14 novembre 2013 08:00 À : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Objet : [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 8088 Contributed by: Ian MacLeod http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rare space rock goes unnoticed for 140 years - space - 13 December 2013 - New Scientist
Hi listoids, No "Diepenveen", as the meteorite is now officially called, in the Met Bull, sorry. Best regards. Michel Franco IMCA 3869 -Message d'origine- De : meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] De la part de Me Teor Envoyé : vendredi 13 décembre 2013 19:28 À : Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Objet : [meteorite-list] Rare space rock goes unnoticed for 140 years - space - 13 December 2013 - New Scientist http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24753-rare-space-rock-goes-unnoticed-for-140-years.html#.UqtQ4XgazCQ 16:08 13 December 2013 by Govert Schilling A rare meteorite that formed soon after the origin of the solar system has been discovered in a private geological collection – 140 years after it fell to Earth. The stone, which is around 4.6 billion years old, was officially handed over to Naturalis Biodiversity Center in Leiden, the Netherlands, earlier this week. Bright lights and sizzling sounds accompanied the fall of the meteorite on 27 October 1873 in the village of Diepenveen in the Netherlands, according to a contemporary handwritten note. Two witnesses to the fall dug up the small, warm stone and gave it to the local schoolmaster. It remained a school specimen until 2009, when it was given to a collector. Dutch amateur astronomer Henk Nieuwenhuis then "rediscovered" the 5-centimetre-wide space rock when he examined the collection last year. "It is very unusual for a space rock to remain unnoticed by astronomers and geologists for such a long time," says Leo Kriegsman, a geologist at the Naturalis Biodiversity Center. The Diepenveen, as the meteorite is now officially called, is only the fifth to have fallen in the Netherlands as far as we know. The find is all the more remarkable because the meteorite turns out to be of a very rare, carbon-rich type known as a CM carbonaceous chondrite – the same type as the one that triggered a meteorite hunt when it fell to Earth in California last year. "CMs comprise less than 1 per cent of all known meteorites," says geologist Marco Langbroek of the Free University in Amsterdam, where the Diepenveen underwent its first analysis. CM carbonaceous chondrites contain up to 2 per cent carbon, often in the form of microscopic diamonds. They also contain organic matter like amino acids, which some researchers believe brought the building blocks of life to Earth. "It is very interesting news," says meteorite researcher Peter Brown of the University of Western Ontario in London, Canada. "CM meteorite falls are indeed rare. If the meteorite has been stored well and not subjected to too much terrestrial contamination it could be quite interesting." However, fellow meteorite researcher Michael Zolensky of NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas, is more cautious. "It will be thoroughly contaminated in any case, so only results for non-terrestrially occurring amino acids may be believable," he says. Tiny samples of the brittle and porous meteorite are now being studied at laboratories in California, New Mexico and Switzerland. "We hope to publish our analysis results sometime next year," says Langbroek. SM __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Whaouh! I love this kind of find! It deserves wasting days looking downwards. Congrats of course. Best regards Michel Franco IMCA 3869 -Message d'origine- De : meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] De la part de valpar...@aol.com Envoyé : dimanche 15 décembre 2013 08:00 À : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Objet : [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Unclassified Contributed by: Jan Woreczko http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2013 Meteorite Website Pagerank Report
Hi list > This year, the only PR-6 meteorite website is > the Meteoritical Society. Meteorite Market and MeteorCrater.com were > both demoted to PR-5. This tends to prove that Science is taking over Business in meteorite, at last, hopefully! Best regards Michel Franco IMCA 3869 Met Soc Member. -Message d'origine- De : meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] De la part de Paul Harris Envoyé : lundi 23 décembre 2013 08:11 À : meteorite-list Objet : Re: [meteorite-list] 2013 Meteorite Website Pagerank Report I wouldn't be concerned about moving down a point. PageRank is not really a priority anymore and updates only come once or twice a year. Matt Cutts of Google said the following on Twitter on the 16th. "it's not unusual to see PR shift up or down slightly, due to recalibration + it's possible that sites are right on a borderline." PageRank is only a small part of what Google uses to determine rankings in their search results. I just did a top 10 report for "meteorites for sale" (the results can be seen in the image link below). The second column from the right shows PageRank and has values from 1 to 5 which do NOT correlate with the search rankings. This is the way PR has been behaving for years. http://www.meteorite.com/images/gpr.jpg Happy Webmastering! Paul On 12/22/2013 6:21 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote: > Greetings Meteorite Dealers, > > Three years ago, I released my first report of Google Pageranks for > Meteorite Dealer Websites. If you missed it, I will briefly summarize > what it was. I tracked down the URL for every meteorite dealer I > could find - 89 of them. I then logged the Google Pagerank for all of > those websites. Finally, I gave some details about what Google > Pagerank (PR) is and why it is important for online sellers. I also > gave some advice on how to increase your site's PR. > > In the three years since then, the meteorite world has undergone some > changes and Google has changed it's PR formula. Both of these things > are normal and inevitable. Google regularly tweaks it's PR formula to > combat PR-cheating and to optimize the value of their search results. > In essence, Google is constantly moving the goalposts, so to speak, > and they are very secretive about how their PR formula works - this > keeps web developers guessing and cheaters on their toes. > > Well, in the three years since my report, meteorite websites have > taken a hit from Google. Apparently, Google does not think much of > meteorite dealers, because it has punished a good number of us with a > reduction in PR. Why? I have no idea, other than the fact that it > obviously has something to do with the change in formula. > > I charged money for the last report. I am not going to charge for > this one because this is not a full-blown report like the first. > Also, I do not feel right charging for something that is not going to > clearly benefit the buyer. While the advice in my first report was > valid, Google decided to reduce many sites' PR for no apparent reason, > so much of my advice was in vain. (Although, much of the advice is > still good to consider.) > > So, let us cut to the chase. Listed first is the Google PR for all of > the websites in the original 2010 report. Following that is a list of > the current PR for those same websites as of 2013. Lastly, I will add > some comments. > > First, the 2010 list : (sorted by PR and alphabetized) > > meteoritemarket.com - 6 > meteoriticalsociety.org - 6 > meteorcrater.com - 6 > aerolite.org - 5 > meteorites.asu.edu - 5 > meteorite.com - 5 > meteorite-times.com - 5 > meteoritecentral.com - 5 > meteorlab.com - 5 > meteoritemen.com - 5 > nyrockman.com - 5 > imca.cc - 5 > arizonaskiesmeteorites.com - 4 > bimsociety.org - 4 > encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com - 4 > galactic-stone.com - 4 > impactika.com - 4 > kansasmeteorite.com - 4 > meteoritesplus.com - 4 > meteoriteman.com - 4 > meteorites.com.au - 4 > meteorites.com - 4 > meteorites.tv - 4 > meteoritehunter.com - 4 > meteorite.fr - 4 > meteoriteguy.com - 4 > meteoritestudies.com - 4 > meteorman.org - 4 > meteoritelab.com - 4 > meteorites-for-sale.com - 4 > mhmeteorites.com - 4 > michaelbloodmeteorites.com - 4 > minresco.com - 4 > mr-meteorite.net - 4 > planetbrey.com - 4 > spacerocksuk.com - 4 > schoolersinc.com - 4 > sv-meteorites.com - 4 > bigkahuna-meteorites.com - 3 > carionmineraux.com - 3 > catchafallingstar.com - 3 > chladnis-heirs.com - 3 > fallingrocks.com - 3 > fernlea.tripod.com - 3 > haberer-meteorite.de - 3 > illinoismeteorites.com
[meteorite-list] christmas meteorite ?
Hi list, Christmas is december 24 or 25 ? Christmas meteorite is a European L chondrite, for sure. Saint Chinian or Barwell FALL OF SAINT-CHINIAN STONY METEORITE, FRANCE Name : SAINT-CHINIAN. The place of fall or discovery: near Camprafaud and Sorteilho in the proximity of Saint-Chinian, Department of Hérault, France. Date of fall or discovery: FALL, December 25, 1959, between 15,4 and 15,5 hrs. Class and type: STONY, chondrite, crystalline. The number of individual specimens: 2 found. Total weight: 134.3 g. FALL OF BARWELL STONY METEORITE, GREAT BRITAIN Name: BARWELL The place of fall or discovery: At Barwell, near Leicester, Leicestershire, Great Britain. Date of fall or discovery: FALL, December 24, 1965, 4h 20m p.m. Class and type: STONY, olivine-hypersthene chondrite. Best regards. Michel Franco Met Soc Member IMCA 3869 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What is more important in classification?
Hi all, Thanks Carl for the clearest explanations ever engraved about meteorite analysis, to be etched on all web sites. Regards Michel IMCA 3869 -Message d'origine- De : meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] De la part de Carl Agee Envoyé : lundi 6 janvier 2014 18:10 À : Jim Wooddell Cc : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Objet : Re: [meteorite-list] What is more important in classification? Hi Jim, The electron microprobe is the workhorse for classifications, and most of this can be done simply with a probe mount (epoxy mounted sample that has been polished). In general you don't need a thin section or a petrographic microscope, although I always use a reflected light petrographic microscope for reconnaissance of the probe mount before it goes on the electron probe. The electron microprobe produces quantitative data that is usually necessary for detailed, high quality classification of chondrites and achondrites. For example the chemical compositions of fine grained olivines, pyroxenes, feldspars, etc. (which are diagnostic for classification) can really only be done with high precision by the electron microprobe. On the other hand, a polished thin section is nice because it can be both microprobed and be used for optical examination. There are some useful things you can do with transmitted light microscopy, such as describe shock effects and weathering and other optical subtleties that will not be easy to see with backscatter electrons. A lot of this type of detail though is not really needed for a classification. It gets into the realm of a research project, where you might also want TEM or age dating or cosmic ray exposure and so on -- the list of instruments is very long... Thin sections are more work to make than probe mounts. For iron meteorites usually a probe mount is all you need, because all you will be doing is looking at or analyzing the surface. And for irons, bulk chemical analyses are usually done for classification, which is not usually the case for chondrites and achondrites -- although for lunars INAA is great for grouping the breccias. Carl * Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Jim Wooddell wrote: > Hi all! > > Just a few general questions... > > The involves a mount and a thin section. > > What is more important now-a-days in classification? This mainly > revolves some questions I have that I am not sure how to ask...mainly > to those that classify. > > If you have a million dollar Scanning Election Microscope and can > probe around and can determine classification from the geochem and BSE > images, how important is it to see the transmitted and reflected > features in a petrographic microscope? > > I suppose my thoughts and questions are possibly in reference to new > technology vs. old technologymaybe not...but close and really > deeper than just yes and no answers. Not that SEM's are new > technology...just saying. > > I was told a while back you can not classify without both. So Why??? > Are the SEM's not capable of doing what a petrographic microscope can > do? > > Thanks! > > Jim > > > > > -- > Jim Wooddell > jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net > http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/ > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chinese Meteorite Is 4.6 Billion Years Old (And Costs £8 Million)
Hi listoids, No fall on April 2009registred in Met Bull, i.e. it's a new fall 17 Million £ per kilo not bad. That's around 20 000 $ per gram. I love big figures, this one is a bit expensive for my budget, sorry for the seller, I'll keep my cash for more weathered stones ;-), falls are really out of reach this 2014! Michel IMCA 3869 -Message d'origine- De : meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] De la part de Shawn Alan Envoyé : mercredi 8 janvier 2014 11:27 À : Meteorite Central Objet : [meteorite-list] Chinese Meteorite Is 4.6 Billion Years Old (And Costs £8 Million) Hello Listers How much would you pay for a meteorite? Well I guess in China meteorite they are worth millions when it comes to ordinary chondrite. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://meteoritefalls.com/ http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html Chinese Meteorite Is 4.6 Billion Years Old (And Costs £8 Million) Huffington Post UK | Posted: 07/01/2014 13:23 GMT | Updated: 07/01/2014 13:24 GMT How much would you pay for this? What about if we told you it's 4.6 billion years old - about as ancient as the Earth and came from space? That would probably bump the price up a little. But still not quite as high as the owners want for it... The fist-sized meteorite is priced at 80 million Yuan (or about £8 million) in a meteorite shop in Urumqi, capital of northwest China's Xinjiang Autonomous Region. Pictured by Rex News, the 434g meteorite was seen falling from the sky on April 12th, 2009. Villagers arrived at the landing spot and recovered it, which turned out to be a good idea. According to Zhang Baolin, an expert at Beijing Planetarium, it's about the same age as the Earth and is worth millions to the right buyer. source http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/07/meteorite-8-million-pound_n_45540 70.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chinese Meteorite Is 4.6 Billion Years Old (And Costs £8 Million)
Hi Alan & all, According Met Bull data base. "No records found for falls from China with text that contains "2009"" Abstract of last Chinese fall records Xining ** OfficialY 2012Qinghai, China L5 100 kg 102†Google Earth94.39 Huaxi **OfficialY 2010Guizhou, China H5 1600 g 100†Google Earth90.72 Dongyang ** OfficialY 2002Zhejiang, China H5 230 g 102†Google Earth88.84 Heyetang ** OfficialY 1998Hunan, ChinaL3 2.5 kg 102†Google Earth94.69 Chadong ** OfficialY 1998Hunan, ChinaL6 3.7 kg 85 Google Earth96.95 Have a good day Rgds Michel IMCA 3869 -Message d'origine- De : Shawn Alan [mailto:photoph...@yahoo.com] Envoyé : samedi 11 janvier 2014 05:34 À : Michel FRANCO; 'Meteorite Central' Objet : Re: [meteorite-list] Chinese Meteorite Is 4.6 Billion Years Old (And Costs £8 Million) Michel & Listers I also noticed that there wasn't any info on Met Bull about that fall. Any whos lets hope for some good fall for 2014. PS did a fall in China happen in 2009? I wasn't collecting meteorites till 2010 Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html http://meteoritefalls.com/ - Original Message - From: Michel FRANCO To: 'Shawn Alan' ; 'Meteorite Central' Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2014 6:14 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Chinese Meteorite Is 4.6 Billion Years Old (And Costs £8 Million) Hi listoids, No fall on April 2009registred in Met Bull, i.e. it's a new fall 17 Million £ per kilo not bad. That's around 20 000 $ per gram. I love big figures, this one is a bit expensive for my budget, sorry for the seller, I'll keep my cash for more weathered stones ;-), falls are really out of reach this 2014! Michel IMCA 3869 -Message d'origine- De : meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] De la part de Shawn Alan Envoyé : mercredi 8 janvier 2014 11:27 À : Meteorite Central Objet : [meteorite-list] Chinese Meteorite Is 4.6 Billion Years Old (And Costs £8 Million) Hello Listers How much would you pay for a meteorite? Well I guess in China meteorite they are worth millions when it comes to ordinary chondrite. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://meteoritefalls.com/ http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html Chinese Meteorite Is 4.6 Billion Years Old (And Costs £8 Million) Huffington Post UK | Posted: 07/01/2014 13:23 GMT | Updated: 07/01/2014 13:24 GMT How much would you pay for this? What about if we told you it's 4.6 billion years old - about as ancient as the Earth and came from space? That would probably bump the price up a little. But still not quite as high as the owners want for it... The fist-sized meteorite is priced at 80 million Yuan (or about £8 million) in a meteorite shop in Urumqi, capital of northwest China's Xinjiang Autonomous Region. Pictured by Rex News, the 434g meteorite was seen falling from the sky on April 12th, 2009. Villagers arrived at the landing spot and recovered it, which turned out to be a good idea. According to Zhang Baolin, an expert at Beijing Planetarium, it's about the same age as the Earth and is worth millions to the right buyer. source http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/07/meteorite-8-million-pound_n_45540 70.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ADD: new eucrite 4sale No Reserve !
Dear list I was out of cosmos for a while. I come back with some new meteorites, already analyzed but published in some future. Just have a look at this new Eucrite. Small weight but good material indeed. No reserve, the market will find its price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2157547289&ssPageName=ADM E:B:LC:US:1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2157546836&ssPageName=ADM E:B:LC:US:1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2157547590&ssPageName=ADM E:B:LC:US:1 Good bidding ! More to come Michel FRANCO IMCA 3869 http://caillou-noir.com (say kayunwar) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ebay auctions
Dear list I have some Ebay auction ending soon. A new Eucrite A new CO3. the photos are poor on Ebay but you' find good one on my site www.caillou-noir.com at very low price ( I am new on Ebay and proposed it very low cost !) Next time they 'll be more expensive. very small TKW. Some individual of L3.8 brecciated. All above analyzed by Labo Magie of Jussieu University in Paris. It's worth having a look. my ebay ID is kayunwar. Best regards Michel FRANCO IMCA 3869. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] new Eucrite 4sale on Ebay NR
Dear List I have just listed on Ebay 3 slices and an end cut of the recristalized new Eucrite that I found last year. No Reserve of course. Look at the sales of Best regards and good bids. Michel FRANCO IMCA 3869 Caillou Noir 100 chemin des Campènes 74400 Chamonix France __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tin Bider Impact breccia 4sale on Eaby
Dear list I have just listed 4 specimen of the Tin Bider impact breccia. Tin Bider Algeria is a 6 km impact crater that have been visited last year by an International expedition on behalf of USTHB ( Algiers scientific University) As was personnaly granted of 2 rocks in reward of my services to this party. The last slice shows the bicolor breccia, the other ones only the yellow breccia. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2160629674 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2160630115 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2160629907 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2160630288 Good bid ! Best regards Michel FRANCO IMCA 3869 Caillou Noir 100 chemin des Campènes 74400 Chamonix France __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD **a new CV3 4sale on EBAY**
Dear List I have just listed a new CV3, first slices available. Main mass visible on my site www.caillou-noir.com I call it swa02003. 1.68 g slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2160660641 1.04 end cut with FC http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2160660908 .024 g part slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2160661399 Good bids Best day Michel FRANCO __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Slikensides ?
Dear list I am looking for information about SLIKENSIDE formation. Does they come from a shock in the cosmos or do they form when landing on Earth ? Any detail will be appreciated. Thank's in advance. Best regards Michel FRANCO __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD ** DaG 945 Eucrite 4sale on Ebay **
Dear List Forn the first time the Dag 945 Eucrite is offered for sale. Very Small TKW, 300 g only, few slices will be offered. Take your chance. It's a partial cumulate Eucrite, sop far not apired with the other Dag Eucrite finds. The Mainmass presents many flow lines, look at my site, http://www.caillou-noir.com Good bidding. Michel FRANCO IMCA 3869 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Slickensides photos and Thanks !
Dear List Thanks to all who have kindly answered my question. I have quickly added a page on my site with some Photos of Zag and of a new find ( unclassified ) yet that offers this feature. They are not easy to photography ( for me ). http://caillou-noir.com/slickensides.htm It is still not very clear to me if these features are made in outer space or the result of hard landing. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] EBAY auctions
Hi list I have some interesting Ebay Auction ending tomorrow, inlcuding A new Eucrite, from Sahara ( bids are still very accessible on these) . the DaG 945 Eucrite, ( first time on Ebay) some Tin Bider Impact Breccia ( from Algeria ) first time presented here, a new CO3 pristine. A 2650 g L3.8 individual almost totally crusted at less than $ 0.10 per g. Just have a look at kayunwar auctions. Thanks for reading this AD. best day, Michel FRANCO __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD ** Tin Bider impact breccia **
Dear list My Tin bider Imact breccia auctions are ending tomorrow. It's the first time time this impact breccia is offered for sale on Ebay. Just have a look at www.caillou-noir.com the bicoloured one is the one I prefer. And they are the most difficult to find on field, once you get there. That' s perhaps why I like them more. Good bids. Best regards Michel. Caillou Noir 100 chemin des Campènes 74400 Chamonix France __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tatahouine - Pronunciation
Hi list, Thanks Robert, I think one should say: "ta" "ta" "ween" "ta" as in "cat", twice. "ween" as in between. The "tu" pronunciation is a Spilberg idea, not a tunisian one. Not far from Tataouine, one can visit the site where was shot the movie that made this city more famous than the Diogenite. Tataouine is the correct spelling from the name of this Tunisian city. I should find a photo of the road marks with this spelling in my files. I will put that on my site one day. A easy trip but today all fragments are gone unless you look for smaller than 0.01 g. The 3 impact crater are still there, pretty empty. An old 1931 map facilitates their discovery. Best day Michel Caillou Noir 100 chemin des Campènes 74400 Chamonix France - Original Message - From: "Matson, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Jeff Kuyken '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Meteorite List '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 7:53 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Tatahouine - Pronunciation > Hi Jeff, > > My "assumption" based on rudimentary francais has been > that it is pronounced something like: > > ta'-tuh-ween' > > with the main accent on the third syllable, and more > emphasis on the first syllable than the second. The first > "ta" rhymes with the "ca" of cat. Again, this is a guess. > The Labennes (or Anne) could give you a more accurate > pronunciation. > > Cheers, > Rob > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Expeditions
Rafael, >From my experience, you should start with a magnet on your first expeditions - Sorry Pierre - and after hundred - more or less- of finds you will not need a magnet to hunt. Just crust, flight marks and some signs that experienced hunters know and can hardly explain. You will not miss a lot without a magnet. The only thing you really need is plenty of TIME. But, be sure, it works. Good huntin' Rafael Best regards Michel FRANCO www.caillou-noir.com Caillou Noir 100 chemin des Campènes 74400 Chamonix France - Original Message - From: "Rafael B. Torres" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Expeditions > Hello, thats a good way of thinking. I want the meteorite cane just for L or > H meteorites stick to the big magnet. But I also will look with the eye for > other types of meteorites. Unfortunately I dont have any individual > Achondrite, Lunar, martian, etc...I just have slices of them, so I dont know > how they look like in situ, but I have photos. What kind of damage can a > magnet do to a meteorite?...I thought that it might break it, but what I > plan is not stick the meteorite directly to the ground, but above it. I also > have smaller magnets for checking the sample in my hands, thus not harming > the meteorite. Is that what you are telling me? > > > > =0) > Rafael B. Torres > Space Collection 2001 > http://www.geocities.com/rafael_blando > > > > > > >From: rochette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Rafael B. Torres" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Expeditions > >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:45:30 +0100 > > > >.. But > > >I have just one question: How do u use the meteorite cane?... > > > > > >I have a big magnet from a floppy disk, small in size, but man its > >powerful. > > >Do I use it to sweep the area with it? or just when a rock looks > > >different?...I have that big magnet attached to a cane, plus smaller > >magnets > > >for checking rocks. How does a meteorite cane works the best? > > > > >Ola Rafael > > > >This is more less a repost from about one year ago: use of strong magnet > >cause irreversible damage to the magnetic memory of a meteorite and > >therefore decreases its scientific interest. Besides if you collect only > >rocks sticking to your "cane" you will get slags but leave on the ground > >almost all rarities: rumurutites, angrites, eucrites,diogenite, howardite, > >martian, lunars, even some LL and CV. If you try to increase magnet power > >to compensate, you may collect terrestrial basalts. So what's the use of > >it, unless you know you are in a L or H strewfield??? > > > > > >Pierre > > > > > > > _ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Use of magnets for meteorite hunting
Pierre, > Unfortunately every Saharan or Omani SNC has been tested with a magnet and > therefore are definitively useless to investigate further this issue. > Every is almost the correct word. Almost is the correct word. When I hunt with my mates, I do not use a magnet. Some of them does even if I ask not to use magnets. Only the more experienced do not use magnet; it is just a matter of time. Just a short story, from the field: we encountered a strewn field, obviously of the same fall. Some of us used magnets on their first finds. After a short brief, they put the magnets in thier pockets. The crust colour and regmaglypts more or less marked on the bigger individuals made them confident in the cosmicity of the rocks they where gatering. But then I have no control on magnetic fields during transportation. Packed in metallic travel cases and air shipped from Africa to Europe. We shoudl talke about it. My two cents, ( hey Euro has cents too !) Best regards Michel. > > Pierre > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ** AD EBAY new meteorites **
Dear List I have some auction finishing today and tomorrow still at very interesting prices. A new eucrite rrecristallized, a new CV3 with a very small TKW ( almost half of it is already sold ) and some L3.8 brecciated individuals still at about $0.1 /g. Last month all winner were very pleased with their items. Just have a look at auctions and take a chance. Best regards Michel FRANCOCaillou Noir100 chemin des Campènes74400 Chamonix Francehttp://www.caillou-noir.com+ 33 450 53 17 57+ 33 671 626 928
[meteorite-list] Auctions ending soon
Dear list I have some auctions ending soon, ( L3.8 breccia, Eucrite, CO3 ) some are not listed on the main list ( trouble with ebay ? ) but appear when you search by seller: type kayunwar; Have a look and good bidding. Best regards. Michel FRANCO __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] *** AD Ebay sales, 22 meteorites all at $1, NR !
Dear List, I have just listed 22 new meteorites: - big individuals of L3.8 ( the bigger is 9 lbs !), small one too ( the smaller is 1 once) - CV3, CO3, and the EUC I recovered last year, in thin ( ONE mm thin ) slices, prepared with a wire saw . All are listed at ONE $ with No Reserve. Yes One $ !!! Check auctions. Enjoy the visit and good bids. Best day, Michel FRANCO, Caillou Noir 100 chemin des Campènes 74400 Chamonix France http://www.caillou-noir.com + 33 450 53 17 57 + 33 671 626 928 Met Soc member IMCA # 3869 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] *** Ad EBay ending tomorrow $1 NR ***
Dear list, My ebay listing of complete individuals is endin' tomorrow but there are still good bargain prices. You can stil bid on a 5 lbs L3.8 at $71. or on 77 g for $1.25 ! It is time to take your chance. check auction by Best day. Michel FRANCO __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ebay CROOKERY and Ebay Crook
Dear list I want to inform all the list members that a crook tempted to be paid in my place for an unsold item. I have been informed by a german customer that someone was tempting to sell directly an unsold ebay item from my last listing. My customer send me some emails he exchanged with the supposed owner of my piece. ( A 4558 g individual still in on my desk.) The winner was masupeti with an Ebay rating of 8. I send to him the usual ebay invoice including S&H. But did not get any payment. In the mean while the crook tried to have my german customer ( third higher bidder ) paying him a discussed amount. The guy says that is name is ALEXANDER FOFANOV. He uses my ebay ID as his email adress ( which is not mine) . He proposed my customer to pay directly his bank in Estonia with the following info. Beneficiary: ALEXANDER FOFANOV Beneficiary's bank: PK 19, Tallinn, ES-10502, Estonia Beneficiary's account # 334158180001 Beneficiary's bank SWIFT: FORE EE 2X Beneficiary address: 12/4 Main, Chamonix Haute Savoie, France It is the first time such thing happens to me. I wander if other members of this list know this ALEXANDER FOFANOV and if they have dealed with him. I will give notice to ebay of this crookery. Best regards Michel FRANCO Caillou Noir 100 chemin des Campènes 74400 Chamonix France http://www.caillou-noir.com + 33 450 53 17 57 + 33 671 626 928 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] White stone !
Dear List It happened that I found a strange white stone. I cut it into several slices and found inside an usual chondritic texture and that it looks very fresh, but has no crust , no crust at all, and it is not weathered. Even on the ground facing side I found no relict of any crust. This meteorite is not too much sand blasted as other finds in the same field are. A starnage object. A slice and a fragment were send to Michele Bourot Denise at Museum d'Histoire Naturelle de Paris. it is a fresh LL6 W0/1 S2 ! confirming it is a meteorite . Further analyzes are planned. It is very poor in metal and is at the limit of the LL class, but not yet a R chondrite. You can see photos of that amazing stone on the following page. http://www.caillou-noir.com/swa03008.html I wander if any other fresh chondrite with no crust were found. Best regards, Michel FRANCO Caillou Noir 100 chemin des Campènes 74400 Chamonix France http://www.caillou-noir.com + 33 450 53 17 57 + 33 671 626 928 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] *** AD: New Ebay Listing ***
Dear list I have listed 21 individuals , classified but not yet published of L3.8 from 60 grams up to 2163 g. Many over 1 kg. All are crusted . Starting bid $1 and No Reserve like always in my auctions. I 'll be in Ensiheim this week end to present new original meteorites. Best regards. Michel FRANCO Caillou Noir 100 chemin des Campènes 74400 Chamonix France http://www.caillou-noir.com + 33 450 53 17 57 + 33 671 626 928 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] *** ADD Ebay 22 new individuals, $1, NR ***
Dear list I have listed 22 complete individuals of L3.8 at $1 with No Reserve as usual. Weights range from 52 g to 3629 g. All are crusted, some with almost 95 % crust. Have a look at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2181166628&category=3239&; rd=1 and look at my other sales http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=kayunwar&; include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50 Good visit and thank you for bidding. best regards Michel FRANCO Caillou Noir 100 chemin des Campènes 74400 Chamonix France http://www.caillou-noir.com + 33 450 53 17 57 + 33 671 626 928 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ***Ebay auction ending soon *** $1 NR !!!!
Dear list I have some auction ending in some hours. there are still some nice brecciated individuals at $1 NR. Just have a look at http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=kayunwar&; include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50 Good bids Michel FRANCO __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] I am a DEALER AND not PSEUDO JUDGING
Dear List I started in gathering meteorites from the ground in 1997 in libya. I had them analyzed, I made a web site for education, wrote a book about my expeditions and first hunts, wrote articles for different magazines ( Meteorites ! twice and many in general press in France), gave lectures, went to some meteorites shows, sold little, ran prospecting expeditions in 5 different saharan countries. I am working on a new web site with my best finds. (The old one is a bit obsolete I confess. but still presents some meteorites you will not find eslse where). I personnaly fund all of it. Last year I went professionnal: I created a commercial company Caillou Noir specialized in trading the meteorites I find: I am legally allowed to sell meteorites world wide. I have been granted a business registration ID#. I also gained the obligation to pay taxes on this business. I feel am profesionnal dealer. FYI, my 2 shock veined sulfurs: http://www.caillou-noir.com/LTJ.htm Best regards. Michel FRANCO Caillou Noir 100 chemin des Campènes 74400 Chamonix France http://www.caillou-noir.com + 33 450 53 17 57 + 33 671 626 928 - Original Message - From: "David Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "meteorite-list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:31 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] PSEUDO DEALERS AND PSEUDO JUDGING > Dear List; > A recent post seemed to repeatedly shuffle my quaff. How do we > classify a dealer and why? If a person sells a few meteorites for > money to buy more meteorites to add to his collection, is that a dealer? > If a person like myself who sells a kilo or two a year to promote the > hobby and make a buck (not much more than that) is that a dealer? Do we > have to make a living, or a substantial part of our income from > meteorites to be judged a true dealer? Seems to me that anyone who > "deals" is a dealer. Suppose in the old times to some of us, sell three > and get the forth one for free. > Any comments welcomed. > Works for me, > Dave Freeman > (no big deal) > WMA sales professional of the year > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - Original Message - From: "David Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "meteorite-list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:31 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] PSEUDO DEALERS AND PSEUDO JUDGING > Dear List; > A recent post seemed to repeatedly shuffle my quaff. How do we > classify a dealer and why? If a person sells a few meteorites for > money to buy more meteorites to add to his collection, is that a dealer? > If a person like myself who sells a kilo or two a year to promote the > hobby and make a buck (not much more than that) is that a dealer? Do we > have to make a living, or a substantial part of our income from > meteorites to be judged a true dealer? Seems to me that anyone who > "deals" is a dealer. Suppose in the old times to some of us, sell three > and get the forth one for free. > Any comments welcomed. > Works for me, > Dave Freeman > (no big deal) > WMA sales professional of the year > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tatahouine_strewnfield
Steve As I said before to PM PELE, the strewn field has been conscienciously searched by Carion, in 1992 and after. I passed throught that field in 1999 and and picked up some needle head fragments The locals are aware of the Diogenite now and have searched a very large area around the strew field. I do not think that there is much left . Plus any foreigner seen in the area is immediately reported to the local authorities who protect the zone from further plundering. Only the goat and sheep keppers can walk the zone without being disturbed. If you want some of the stuff, the best is to ask the locals and buy it, at market prices. Tataouine is connected to internet and all know the value of this diogenite. The cratrers were still marked in 1999. best regards Michel. - Original Message - From: "Steve Schoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pierre-Marie_PELE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "meteorite-list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tatahouine_strewnfield > Gosh, > > I would love to go there. > > I always thought over the years that I have read about > it, that the fragments that were found in 1931 were > from the tail of the bolide. > > Others from Europe confirmed it with some very > remarkable discoveries, finding very nice and fresh > looking pieces that are much larger than what was > originally found. > > I still think that much more remains to be found. > > But I can't help you too much as to the original > reports, other than the fact that the French army > personell reported that the strewnfield was about 800 > meters wide, at the location originally reported. > > I don't think that they investigated any farther than > that. So what I would do is find the original center > as it realates to the town as it was in 1931, then > move out about half a Km and start a circular search > pattern with that original strewnfield as the center. > Spiral out, and when you find a piece make a note of > it and continue on moving ever farther from the > original center. When you find another piece, make > note of it in relation to the first find you made then > refine your search to an area that has lines drawn > from the original center to the locations of the two > pieces that you found (or hope to find). You should > be able to find more between those two pieces and the > original center and also most likely in a path leading > farther out from the spots indicated on your map. > > That is how I would do it. > > Steve Schoner/ams > http://www.geocities.com/meteorite_identification > > > --- Pierre-Marie_PELE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello to all members of the list. > > > > I'm going to Tunisia in february and I would like to > > know the exact location of the Tatahouine > > strewnfield. I already know the GPS > > position from the Catalogue of Meteorites and that > > it's at 2.5 kilometers from the town center. > > > > So I would be very happy to receive the 1932 report > > made by the tunisian army or an exact GPS location. > > > > I thank everybody in advance. > > > > Regards, > > > > Pierre > > IMCA 3360 > > -- > > > > Faites un voeu et puis Voila ! www.voila.fr > > > > > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] End Cut Nomenclature et al.
Dear list, We all use many terms to describe our beloved meteorites. As I am working on a new website, I was wondering if there is a kind of Nomenclature/rule for the terms below: End cut: is there a minimal weight/size for it ? Slice, partial slice, full slice: a meteorite is often broken on landing, when one slices it the result is a complete slice of the meteorite which lacks FC on the broken side: shall we name it part slice, slice or full slice of the said meteorite ? Fragment: is there a relation between the absolute size of it or is it related to the TKW of the meteorite. What is the maximunm weght of a fragment ( if it exists ) Additional masses: Some meteorites, such as Tatahouine or Sikhote Alin for instance, have a declared TKW which is now obsolete. Many additional masses were found in the ninety's for Tatahouine and today for Sikhote Alin. I wander if there is a rule for additional masses of falls. Anyone going on a reknown strewn field can - more or less easily -find some more meteorite. I would like to know if a report made the Met Soc will change the TKW even if no analyse is made of the newly discovered additionnal mass of the 'old' meteorite. A summer light topic. Best regards from the sunny Alps. Michel FRANCO Caillou Noir 100 chemin des Campènes 74400 Chamonix France http://www.caillou-noir.com IMCA #3869 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] *** 33 lbs BIG METEORITE ON EBAY ***
Dear list I have listed some nice individuals for next week. All at $1 no reserve. I propose a insurred shipping to the US , that explains the rather high shipping costs. I am open to any other shipping solution, on buyer recommandation. Of course shipping will be reduced in case of multiple wins. You can see them on http://cgi6.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=kayunwar&i nclude=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50 The big ones are a 10 lbs with a maximum of fusion crust and a very nice shape, certainly a must http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2192470251 and 33 lbs, just have a look. http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2192470558 Thank for reading the post, Good biddings Best regards Michel FRANCO Caillou Noir 100 chemin des Campènes 74400 Chamonix France http://www.caillou-noir.com + 33 450 53 17 57 + 33 671 626 928 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] *** 33 lbs BIG METEORITE ON EBAY ***
Hi Joseph, This is a good link, at least working from my station. http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=kayunwar&; include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50 Sorry for the bad link.. Good bid, best regards Michel - Original Message - From: "Joseph Murakami" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Michel Franco'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 7:49 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] *** 33 lbs BIG METEORITE ON EBAY *** > Hi Michel, > > I tried to bid but the reply was in French. Je ne paus Francois... or > sumethin like that.. Ya sprashibayu tolko Ruskaya yazeka... 'n a bit of > Japanese. > Joseph. > Honolulu. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michel > Franco > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:40 AM > To: Meteorite List > Subject: [meteorite-list] *** 33 lbs BIG METEORITE ON EBAY *** > > Dear list > > > I have listed some nice individuals for next week. > > All at $1 no reserve. > > I propose a insurred shipping to the US , that explains the rather high > shipping costs. I am open to any other shipping solution, on buyer > recommandation. > > Of course shipping will be reduced in case of multiple wins. > > You can see them on > > http://cgi6.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=kayunw > ar&i > nclude=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50 > > The big ones are > > a 10 lbs with a maximum of fusion crust and a very nice shape, certainly > a > must > http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=21924702 > 51 > > and 33 lbs, just have a look. > http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=21924705 > 58 > > Thank for reading the post, > > Good biddings > > Best regards > > Michel FRANCO > Caillou Noir > 100 chemin des Campènes > 74400 Chamonix France > http://www.caillou-noir.com > + 33 450 53 17 57 > + 33 671 626 928 > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 33 lbs BIG METEORITE, Good eBAY link
Dear List Joseph from Honolulu told me that my actions appear in french on a link that i previously gave. Here is a link in English to my auctions. http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=kayunwar&; include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50 If it does not work just tell me I will send you the right page personnaly. this moring there was still some very good bargain at around $/g 0.05 !!! Good bids, Best wishes Michel FRANCO Caillou Noir 100 chemin des Campènes 74400 Chamonix France http://www.caillou-noir.com + 33 450 53 17 57 + 33 671 626 928 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Pluto is Now Just a Number: 134340
Hi Ron, Sterling and list TKS for your analysis and comments. Shall we understand that there not any more asteroïds in the cosmos ? but SSSB & Dwarf Planets! In lecture about our beloved meteorites shall I introduce SSSB and Dwarf Planet to the audience. As non member of the IAU and member of the Met Soc, I'll wait to have our society comments. And keep on with "asteroïds orbiting between Mars and Jupiter orbits." Yes there are some others Amor Athen, etc. but let's make it easy for the public. A recent poll in France showed that one third of the population was believing that the Sun was orbiting Earth! No comments. Best regards. Michel FRANCO www.caillou-noir.com -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Sterling K. Webb Envoyé : mercredi 13 septembre 2006 05:24 À : Meteorite Mailing List Cc : Ron Baalke Objet : Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto is Now Just a Number: 134340 Hi, Nice headline: Pluto is now just a number. I'd imagine The Planet Pluto is feeling a little blue about now. (Anybody checked its UVB magnitude lately?) Having the blues usually calls for a song. Here it is. (Adapted from "Secret Agent Man," by P.F. Sloan and S. Barri, 1966.) PLANET PLUTO MAN There's a world that leads a life of danger; To the inner system it stays a stranger. With every move they make, Another chance you take; Odds are you won't be a planet any longer. Planet Pluto Man, Xena, Ceres, too: They've given you a number And taken away your name. Beware of IAU'ers that you find; Bad science hides an evil mind. Ah, be careful what you do Or they'll get rid of you; Odds are you won't be a planet any longer. Planet Pluto Man, Xena, Ceres, too: They've given you a number And taken away your name. Meanwhile, what is this "Minor Planet Center"? There is no such thing as a "minor planet." That old term was submerged and terminated by IAU Resolution 5A. I quote item (3) All other objects [footnote 3] orbiting the Sun shall be referred to collectively as "Small Solar System Bodies" and [footnote 3] These currently include most of the Solar System asteroids, most Trans-Neptunian Objects (TNOs), comets, and other small bodies. (Notice the "most"?) Since there's no such thing as a "minor planet," doesn't Brian have to change the name of his fine recording organization first, to "The Small Solar System Body Center"? Of course, the old name has a long and honorable history. On the other hand, that argument didn't cut much ice for the Planet Pluto. Additionally, the IAU passed Resolution 6A, which states "The IAU further resolves: PLUTO IS A DWARF PLANET by the above definition and is recognized as the prototype of a new category of trans-Neptunian objects." Not AS an TNO, but as a prototype for more trans-Neptunian dwarf planets. TNO's are SSSB's, unless they're Dwarf Planets, in which case they are NOT SSSB's. Obviously, Pluto is classified as a "dwarf planet," NOT a small solar system body (nor minor planet, of which there are none). Marsden's saying that Pluto can be included in "other" catalogs is disingenuous. Pluto (by Resolution 6A) has already been designated as a Dwarf Planet and, as such, has been excluded from the Small Solar System Body category (and catalog), and listing Pluto as such is flatly contradictory to and violates Resolution 5A. To do so is just unprofessional conduct. Resolution 5A's [footnote 2] says "An IAU process will be established to assign BORDERLINE objects into either dwarf planet and other categories." But the subsequent Resolution 6A (which followed 5A and further refines it) assigns Pluto to Dwarf Planet status, specifically and by name (not number). Resolution 5A creates THREE SEPARATE AND DISTINCT categories of solar system bodies: PLANETS, DWARF PLANETS, and SMALL SOLAR SYSTEM BODIES (hereinafter abbreviated as SSSB). Despite the more than evident desire of many parties to have only two categories: Eight Planets and Space Junk, that is NOT what Resolution 5A does. What it does do is to define THREE classifications on a totally EQUAL footing. The previous drafts of the resolution ennumerated two Dwarf Planets under the criteria of Resolution 5A: Pluto and Ceres (and, as a double planet, Charon too, but Charon is out now). Originally, the term "dwarf planet" was proposed as "merely" descriptive, or so said the FAQ issued by the IAU at the time of the first version of Resolution 5. However, the resolution that actually passed (5A) makes Dwarf Planet a technical classification and a solar system body category completely independent of and distinct from either Planet and SSSB, a definition of
RE: [meteorite-list] nwa 4292
Hi guys, list, Steve, Martin and friends, Just have a look at this one, not a fall of course, but very very fresh, NOT SAND BLASTED, and NO crust! http://www.caillou-noir.com/AinBeida.htm No one could explain the lack of crust.. 2 cents Michel -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Martin Altmann Envoyé : samedi 14 octobre 2006 20:27 À : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Objet : [meteorite-list] nwa 4292 " I have never seen a chondrite devoid of some type of fusion crust anywhere." Hmmm, you should take a look on your homepage: http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com/id140.html That Dho 017 has no fusion crust neither. Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Steve Arnold, Chicago!! Gesendet: Samstag, 14. Oktober 2006 17:44 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] nwa 4292 Hi list.For anyone who has not gotten a piece of OLD YELLER,NWA 4292,is either missing out or is nicely surprised by this unique chondrite.I have never seen a chondrite devoid of some type of fusion crust anywhere.I just received my 150 gram fragment and it looks a little like a piece of CORNBREAD.My piece has a small cut window and shows alot of metal.I am surprised by the L class.Oh well I did not classified it so it is a very fine specimen to me.And the price was just right.Thanks to adam hupe for making this and the 44 gram slice of MALOTAS available.Both very nice meteorites. steve arnold,chicago,USA!! Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com Illinois meteorites,since 1999! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What else do you collect?
After having travelled a lot, mostly by myslef, in very remote places, such sailing to Antarctica in 1982 on a 40 foot sloop, I tought that i was a landscape collector. Then I realized that i am a friedship collector ;-) ! To be valid an entry is someone with whom i have shared eiter a meal or a night in his/her house or mine. Entered in Meteorite in 1997, when I found my first one in Libya. It became quickly a passion, when I pushed the door of the Musee National d'Histoire Naturelle de Paris. This passion helped me to gain new entries in Algeria, France, Germany, Italia, Mauritania, Russia, US, and Western Sahara. My 2 cents. Michel FRANCO www.caillou-noir.com IMCA 3869 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] For Stan TURECKI
Dear List, This is just a message to ask Stan to contact me off list. I can't reach him on his direct email. Sorry. Best wishes and BTW Happy new year to all listees. Michel FRANCO __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A new french meteorite discovered !
Congrats men. A good start for the new year! Best Michel FRANCO -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Pelé Pierre-Marie Envoyé : mercredi 10 janvier 2007 18:17 À : MeteoriteList Objet : [meteorite-list] A new french meteorite discovered ! Me and Alain Carion are proud to announce the existence of a "new" french meteorite. The meteorite of Saint-Ouen-en-Champagne fell September 29, 1799 near Le Mans (west of France). A farmer saw a stone falling in front of him while he was collecting grain. The stone was certainly broken apart. It weighed about 4.6 kilograms but most of it was forever lost. Alain Carion found a 12 grams fragment in the J. Chadel collection he bought in november 2006 and another piece of 40 grams was kept in the Musee Vert of Le Mans where we met the curator last week. Only two rare articles spoke of this fall (in 1841 and 1881) ; that's the reason why its existence was confidential. It's an ordinary chondrite and it's still under classification at the MNHN, Paris. Alain Carion will show you its 12 grams fragment of the Saint-Ouen-en-Champagne meteorite in Tucson (Inn Suite, room 123) during the Show. Pierre-Marie PELE www.meteor-center.com ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] hit a tree
Sikhote Alin ! many trees. Michel FRANCO www.cailou-noir.com >Listoids > >awgh - a helping hand for u tree huggers > >bath furnace >chernyi bor >grzempach >hyderabad >kenton county >mhow >moravka >novellara >peckelsheim >rich mountain >tourinnes la grosse >vitimsky >warrenton > >cmon smarties I must have forgotten some > >cheers >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.3/642 - Release Date: 20/01/2007 > >. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] hit a tree, MORE
M'Bale, tree plus kid. L'Aigle, many trees, fell in a small forest. my 2 cents Michel FRANCO www.caillou-noir.com >Listoids > >awgh - a helping hand for u tree huggers > >bath furnace >chernyi bor >grzempach >hyderabad >kenton county >mhow >moravka >novellara >peckelsheim >rich mountain >tourinnes la grosse >vitimsky >warrenton > >cmon smarties I must have forgotten some > >cheers >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.3/642 - Release Date: 20/01/2007 > >. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
WHERE HUNTING was [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Released from Oman
Dear Adam and list TKS for the good news. This past event makes me think more about meteorite hunting in deserts ( Sahara, Arabic peninsula, etc...) I think it will be great to have the exact knowledge of the different laws ruling our known hunting places, and other potentially rich in meteorites countries. I am think of Algeria, Egypt, Libya, Mali, Mauritania, Morocco, Niger, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Tunesia, Western Sahara. I only know that Algeria forbids prospecting for meteorites inside its borders. I have heard that it is the same in Tunesia. Best regards Michel FRANCO www.caillou-noir.com > -Message d'origine- > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la > part de Adam Hupe > Envoyé : vendredi 13 mai 2005 04:18 > À : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Objet : [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Released from Oman > > > Dear List, > > I just heard from a reliable source some good news, the ten > individuals that were caught meteorite hunting in Oman have > been released. Just a week ago I heard from the same source > they were being charged with three different felonies so it > did not look good at that time making their release an > unexpected surprise. I guess they had been living on credit > cards for some time while waiting for their passports to be > returned. From what I am lead to believe they had to forfeit > all of their equipment; trucks, supplies and the meteorites > in order to leave. I guess the poor guys were only allowed > to leave with the shirts on their backs. > > I was told last week that the Omani government fined them > $35.00 a gram for the meteorites they took which was over 40 > kilos amounting to about US $1,400,000.00. This amount seem > ludicrous to me but shows what kind of > value the people of Oman place on their meteorites. I also > heard that an > Omani guide connected to the Swiss was responsible for > turning them in. > > I hope the most recent update is accurate, I feel it is. > > Kind Regards, > > Adam > > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE : [meteorite-list] NWA 869
Hi list, Hello Jeff, Interesting topic. I am the one that had 410 kg classified as Sahara 02500. L3.8 etc... I have the coordinates of the 64 first individuals found. ( And I have drawn the ellipse of the fall. For many reasons I choose not to disclose the coordinates.) The people working for me searched and found more, on the field 3 times. We gave to the Nom Com a full report of our work. It was partially published. On the same field we recovered also other meteorites. It is almost very easy to visually identify it from other meteorites. When I have doubt I used a SM30 to mesure the magnetic susceptibility of the specimen. It' s a good cross check, not an anlayse. I will not be surprised that other teams went on the field to recover more, as we had no exclusivity of any search in the Sahara. It could be what is commonly called 869. From what I have seen in different shows, Sahara 02500 and 869 look pretty similar. I don't know, as I never tested a 869 specimen with the SM 30, nor had any accurate location for the 869. I will argue that i am not interested in trying a pairing with meteorites that I have not recovered, knowing all sorts of discussion about pairing that we had on this list and elsewhere too. I discussed that with Ted Bunch in Tucson. He made a compementary study on some big inclusions that are commonly found in this meteorite and he was surprized that he could not publish it because 869 has never been published! He should have made his work from my samples ! We had a good laugh. About these inclusions, some are chondritic, some achondritic, but it very rare to find achondritic material in it, according what I know today. Today, I am 55, and I am retired of these salvage huntings, which will be called plundering in some years. Since 2001, things moved a lot and I will not prospect without a permit anywhere in the Sahara. I am not ready to experience the Omanese jails, nor any other Saharan jail. Today, I say also that it is difficult, if not impossible, to export meteorites from the Sahara with all legal documentation. When I say meteorites I say meteorites not minerals, of course. My 2 cents. Michel FRANCO > -Message d'origine- > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la > part de Jeff Grossman > Envoyé : lundi 13 juin 2005 14:23 > À : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Objet : [meteorite-list] NWA 869 > > > Okay list, time to make yourselves useful... > > Everybody wants the NomCom to publish and make official the name NWA > 869. So please, if you know anything, help contribute to the > facts so I > can produce a writeup for submission to the committee. > > Here's what I've got: > > * At least 400 kg of material has been sold out of markets in > Morocco under > this name. > > * Alan Rubin classified a piece. It was a fragmental > breccia, probably > L4-6. A thin section of L5 material gave Fa24.2, S3, W1. > > So what's the rest of the story? How much is out actually > there? When did > it appear on the market? Is it all coming from one > finder/dealer? Is the > find location known? Is it really L4-6 (is this the right > range)? Is it > all coming from the same fall, or is the name NWA 869 a > garbage can for all > kinds of unclassified ordinary chondrites? What large stones are in > collections? Are other NWAs paired with 869? Which? > > Please reply to the list only... I don't need a separate copy. > > jeff > > Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184 > US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383 > 954 National Center > Reston, VA 20192, USA > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Taza and caliche
Dear list I have received some Taza today. I like it, its a an interesting meteorite although not a fall. Quite rare to have a iron find with many many small individuals. But my purpose is not speaking about this meteorite, we could spend hours on it. Some individuals that I have received are covered with some rust, ( I removed it with a gentle air blasting with vegetal abrasive ( bio !) ) and with a white crusted depostit which I suspect to be caliche and that resists to my vegetal abrasive sanding. My request: As anyone on the list a way to clean this crusted deposit on Taza's. Best regards. Michel FRANCO www.caillou-noir.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Seymchan Pallasite Mineralogy
Dear list I am updating some info about specimen in my collection. I have acquired recently in Russia slices of the Seymchan Pallasite and I am looking about extensive info about it. I wish also to know if the newly discovered specimen ( 2004 and 2005) have been alrerady published in the Met Bull. Thanks in advance for your information. Best regards Michel FRANCO __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] AD: DaG628 - Meteorite - Carbonaceous ChondriteCO3 - 11.0g
Francesco and list, More than 100 kg of CO3 were found in the DAG field ! all paired ! Ellipse of fall on published by our beloved Pelisson brothers years ago. Small TKW ? My 2 cents Michel FRANCO -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Moser Francesco Envoyé : dimanche 30 avril 2006 02:19 À : ZZ ML Meteorite-List Objet : [meteorite-list] AD: DaG628 - Meteorite - Carbonaceous ChondriteCO3 - 11.0g Hi folks, I have on auction an end piece of DaG628 a beatiful carbonaceous chondrite type CO3 full of tiny and dark condrules and a strange green cristallyne inclusion. The TKW is very low only 60g and this is the last piece aviable on the market. http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/Immagini/OnSale/Chondrite/DaG628/DaG62 8_1100_1.jpg http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/Immagini/OnSale/Chondrite/DaG628/DaG62 8_1100_2.jpg http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/Immagini/OnSale/Chondrite/DaG628/DaG62 8_1100_3.jpg DaG628 - Meteorite - Carbonaceous Chondrite CO3 - 11.0g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6624833549 Thanks a lot Ciao <><><><> Francesco Moser http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/ IMCA #1510 www.imca.cc "There's just one kind of man that you can trust, that's a dead man, or an IMCA like me." __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD . Seymchan, nice slices
Hello List, I'm back after a while out. I had recently the opportunity to acquire nice slices of the famous Seymchan pallasite Look at http://www.caillou-noir.com/Seymchan.htm The big one 756 g is really impressive. I may keep it for me unless I receive a reasonable, offer. It presents both lithologies the pallasitic one and the Ataxitixc one. Slices this size are not common. Best regards. Michel IMCA # 3869 www.caillou-noir.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rare Krasnojarsk specimen on my web page
Hi list, I've just updated my web site with a very rare Krasnojarsk 159 g specimen coming from an old french collection. It was sleeping on my shelf and I decided to put it on line. For those who do not know what this object represents: The first object recognized by mankind as coming from the outespace! Have a look, the photos are nice and it's worth having a look at it. http://www.caillou-noir.com/krasnoiarsk.htm For your pleasure. Best regards Michel FRANCO www.caillou-noir.com Met Soc member since 1998 IMCA #3869 skype: kayunwar __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] For Mike Jensen, re Krasnoïa rsk
Hi list sorry for that post. I have received a post from Mike and I can't answer for some server problem that i do not understand. My reply bounces back to me. Could anyone pass on this mel to him, or maybe he will read it on the list Tks in advance. best regards Hi Mike, Yes I come back to meteorite after a while, say a parentesis. But I must sell my collection, getting a costly divorce. That's life. If you are interested by any metroiote on my site, please do not hesitate, all is for sale, including this Krasnoiarsk beauty. I will list soon a 136 kg !!! Sikhote Alin with all exportation papers from Russia. And more from my stock. Best regards. Michel. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] BIG Sikhote Alin
Dear list and Jim I've just uploaded some of my Sikhote Alins look at http://www.caillou-noir.com/Sikhote_alin.html More to come soon. For your eyes and your collection. if you wish. best regards Michel FRANCO www.caillou-noir.com IMCA 3869 Met Soc Member (1998) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: 53 KG BIG SIKHOTE FOR SALE
Dear List We have just put online another BIG Sikhote Alin 53 kg. This is a very interesting individual with both "lithologies" half shrapnel and half regmaglypted. This meteorite is in museum conservation state. This big piece comes with legal documentation including exportation autorization from the Fersmann Museum in Moscow. Please note that this Sikhote is one of the last available one . Exportation is now very strict from Russia and big one like thios will become rarer and rarer. http://www.caillou-noir.com/sikhote_53.htm We ask $ 8200 for this meteorite. More photos available on request. Best regards Michel FRANCO www.caillou-noir.com PS still our 134 kg Sikhote waiting for your best offer. http://www.caillou-noir.com/Sikhote_alin.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: I sell MY 53 kg Sikhote Alin, Sainte Marie discount
Dear List I am pleased to inform the meteorite community that I am offering a very special 53 kg Sikhote Alin for sale at $8,200 during the Sainte Marie Mineral show. This a very unusual Sikhote that presents both "lithologies" shrapnell and regmaglypted. Russian experts say that is comes from one of the 121 craters. Please have a look at http://www.caillou-noir.com/sikhote_53.htm I have just uploaded new photos online where you will appreciate the broken sides and the regmaglypts. On my web page you can see my friend and partner Fred Beroud of Meteoriteshow and this rare iron on display. http://www.caillou-noir.com This meteorite is currently in France at Sainte Marie and will stay in France until an happy buyer buys it. The regular price will be $ 10,300 after the show. This meteorite comes with a certificate of authenticity from Fersmann Museum in Moscow and an exportation certificate from Russia. ( Translation in progress available next week I hope.)For deals started before the end of the show we will keep that price during 2 weeks until payment is cleared. First come first serve basis. You can contact me or Fred Beroud at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for this deal. Beware of imitiations and of untrustable dealers. Only original meteorites at Caillou Noir as Always. Best regards Michel FRANCO www.caillou-noir.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Morocco Meteorite Meeting
Hi all, Algeria has forbidden meteorite exportation some years ago. ( meteorite as well as any rock sample, even sand, all artefacts, etc...) Permit to export these items through the broders is not easy to have! For scientific purposes it works, for commercial purpose no. Lecture were given to custom officers, police and gendarmerie ( kind of MP) by Algiers university professors in 2004. my 2 cents Michel FRANCO www.caillou-noir.com -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de stan . Envoyé : vendredi 30 juin 2006 06:09 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Objet : RE: [meteorite-list] Morocco Meteorite Meeting from what i understand this is because of illegal boarder crossings, not because the authorities care about some stones... if stones were comming into morroco from other nations and their export is made illegal they will just travel to another state where the export laws are more lax. >I have notice some moroccans are arrested in Algeria >why found with meteorites... > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD KAYUNWAR ebay auction at steel prices !
Hi list, We have 21 auctions ending in 12 hours, with august prices !!! Take a chance to buy nice crusted meteorite for 0.99! Good bidding. Michel __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] BIG meteorite on Ebay NR !
Dear list I have listed some individuals ending in 2 days, including a 24 lbs big individual with reglmaglypts, cust and classification ( L3.8) publication pending. As always No reserve and $1 starting price. you can see it at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2193691314 Please look at my other listing at http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=kayunwar&; include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50 there are still good bargain prices! average still about $5 cts/g, not bad for classifed L3.8. Good looking and good bidding. Best regards Michel. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 24 lbs individual on Ebay.
Dear list and friends Just a last word to tell that I have a nice 24 pounder on ebay ending in 10 hours. NR and still a good bargain price. The 3094 g individual is also a good choice if you are looking for crustr and regmaglypts. Best regards Michel FRANCO Caillou Noir 100 chemin des Campènes 74400 Chamonix France http://www.caillou-noir.com + 33 450 53 17 57 + 33 671 626 928 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ebay descriptions
Ok and what about for 10 kilos for 50 kilos. My 2 cents Michel FRANCO www.caillou-noir.com seller of big big ones. - Original Message - From: "Tom aka James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tom aka James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 3:37 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay descriptions > Hello List, I have part of this figured out. We need a standard! For > example; > > FOR IRONS and common chondrites > > > 0g to 10g = tiny > 11g to 25g = Small > 26g to 50g = medium > 51g to 100g = nice sized > 100g to 1 kilo = big > > For rare stuff ; > > 1mg to 10th gram = small > 10thg to 1g= medium > 1g or more= large > > Thanks, Tom > Peregrineflier <>< > The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 > - Original Message - > From: Tom aka James Knudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 6:11 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay descriptions > > > > Hello All, A current ebay auction has a 2510g Nantan described as > > "GIGANTIC". If that is gigantic, what word in the English language would > be > > left for the main mass of Hoba? > > Thanks, Tom > > Peregrineflier <>< > > The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 5:32 PM > > Subject: [meteorite-list] ebay descriptions > > > > > > > Yes, and it is even more annoying when the description says HUGE!!! > > > > > > Mike Fowler > > > Chicago > > > > > > > > > < > only > > > to click on it and see that it's a 0.00438 gram < > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
FYI name !!! Re: [meteorite-list] eBay - Auctions ending soon from POLANDMET
Dear list I sold the stone to Marcin under the tempory name SWA 01003. He asked me what could be the definte name. I said to him that I was in discussion to have it named SAXXYYY but this name is not adopted yet by the Nom Com. I made the remark to him some months ago and he starts again to change name and make it look like an adopted name which is not. I do not play this game. I do not want to add confusion. FYI best regards Michel FRANCO www.caillou-noir.com - Original Message - From: "PolandMET.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 1:35 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] eBay - Auctions ending soon from POLANDMET > Hello > I want to inform You all that I have some auctions ending tonight.. > > Especially I want to introduce > > big complete slice of Mr. Franco meteorite polished from 2 sides to mirror quality. > # Meteorite SAHARA01xxx L3.8 breccia, 81g # > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2195450396 > > Tooday ending also polished slice of GHUBARA L5 and one of my many oriented Gao. > > -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- > http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 > [ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ] > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: FYI name !!! Re: [meteorite-list] eBay - Auctions ending soon from POLANDMET
Bill, First point: the meteoriet is classified: it is a L3.8 your question certainly about official publication by tye Nomenclature Committee. I have no action nor influence on the Nom Com. I had plenty of discussions with Jutta Zipfel and Luigi Folco. Who are both in harge of the NWA 's ( Jutta ) and Sahara 's ( Luigi) . I have no idea of any timing for the descision they will take. My point is that I do not buy my meteorites in Morocco. They do not enter in the NWA category. I have a team working for me in the Sahara and I do not wish to disclose where. They shoudl be named Sahara as the one the Labenne discovered. FYI Best regards Michel FRANCO - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michel Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 9:13 AM Subject: Re: FYI name !!! Re: [meteorite-list] eBay - Auctions ending soon from POLANDMET > Michel, > > Forgive my naivity. On what criteria and upon what schedule do you suppose > your L3.8 will be properly classified? > > Bill Kieskowski > > > Dear list > > > > I sold the stone to Marcin under the tempory name SWA 01003. > > > > He asked me what could be the definte name. I said to him that I was in > > discussion to have it named SAXXYYY but this name is not adopted yet by the > > Nom Com. > > > > I made the remark to him some months ago and he starts again to change name > > and make it look like an adopted name which is not. > > > > I do not play this game. > > > > I do not want to add confusion. > > > > FYI > > > > best regards > > > > Michel FRANCO > > www.caillou-noir.com > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "PolandMET.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 1:35 AM > > Subject: [meteorite-list] eBay - Auctions ending soon from POLANDMET > > > > > > > Hello > > > I want to inform You all that I have some auctions ending tonight.. > > > > > > Especially I want to introduce > > > > > > big complete slice of Mr. Franco meteorite polished from 2 sides to mirror > > quality. > > > # Meteorite SAHARA01xxx L3.8 breccia, 81g # > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2195450396 > > > > > > Tooday ending also polished slice of GHUBARA L5 and one of my many > > oriented Gao. > > > > > > -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- > > > http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 > > > [ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ] > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Back after an absence
Hi list; I am back in my workshop after a long absence. I had 3 ebay won meteorites to send that waited during that time. Please apologize. Best regards. Michel FRANCO
[meteorite-list] *** EBAY sales ***
Dear List I have listed 24 meteorites, all at $1 , NR as usual. Some L3.8 , including BIG INDIVIDUALS, half meteorites and a slice. Also some DaG never proposed for sale and One real main mass of HaH 252. A good opportunity to get interesting stones at very good bargain prices. Good bids and Best regards Michel FRANCO Met Soc member and IMCA 3869
[meteorite-list] *** Huge meteorites on Ebay Eding Tomorrow***
Dear list, I have listed some huge meteorites ending tomorrow. Over 8 pounds. Some of my mates also selling on ebay qualify huge a 123 g meteorite. I do not know how I should qualify mine. Many of theses individuals are brecciated. Shhh: it is said that it will be named Wadi Mellene soon. Also the real main mass of DaG 252 a L-6. They are still ate a very good bargain prices: look at http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=kayunwar&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50 Thanks for visiting this page and good bids. Best regards Michel FRANCO Meteoritical Society Member IMCA #3869 Member __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] *** auction sending tonight ***
Dear List I have a list of large meteoriets ending in a couple of hours. A lot of L3.8 brecciated including some big individuals +3 and +4 kilos, from the Sahara, plus slice, & end cuts, Adding some never sold DaG, the real main mass of HaH 252 a L-6, any meteorite amateur should have a look ! They are still ate a very good bargain prices. http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=kayunwar&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50 Thanks for visiting this page and good bids. Best Regards Michel FRANCO Meteoritical Society Member IMCA #3869 Member __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sedimentary Meteorite?
Hello list I went 2 year ago in front a similar rock. It is covered with a nice desert varnish that really looks like a meteorite crust. It can make any meteorite hunter sceptical. It is not a meteorite at all. Mine was a metemorphic rock with magnetite. Dean's looks very similar, but nobody can expertize any meteorite on photos. Only few exceptions. Best regards. Michel FRANCO www.caillou-noir.com - Original Message - From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:58 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sedimentary Meteorite? | Hello List, | | Another list member asked if we had seen a meteorite like this before. | Check this out, it looks like the world's first sedimentary meteorite or it | could be just another Galaxy meteorite delaminating at the glue seams: | | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2207827745&category=3239 | | All the best, | | Adam | | | | __ | Meteorite-list mailing list | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ***new Ebay auctions ***
Dear list I have listed 23 Ebay auctions ending in 4 days including - some big individuals of Wadi Mellene ( Wadi Mellene is the name of the place where it was found in the Sahara according locals.) By my mistake the photos are not on Ebay but you can see them at http://www.caillou-noir.com/wadimellenelist.htm Some slices and end cuts of differents meteorites that I had recovered some years ago and that I am so far the only provider. Tioualoualene CV3 Ti Hedjirine EUC Techouen CO3 Dag 582 H6 Dag 586 H5 HaH 246 LL6 ( this looks really like Bison ) HaH 248 H3.9 Also some small Vaca Muerta MES end cut and slice. Have a look Good bids Michel FRANCO Meteoritical Society Member IMCA #3869 Member __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lets' introduce Caillou Noir and about meteorite naming.
Dear list, Some of you may know me. The new members may not. I wish to shortly (re-) introduce myself. I live in France and have been travelling and working as an engineer in the Sahara in the 70's and in the 80's. I started meteorite hunting in 1997 and succefully found about a hundred of them. They were sent to European labs and have been analyszed and published in differents Met Bull. Together with Francoise, my wife , ( she is an author ) we had many press articles published in European medias and also in Meteorite Magazine. She wrote abook ( unfortunatly in French) about our adventures in the Sahara "Chasseurs de Meteorites", Cherche Midi Editor Paris . When the NWA rush happened, I started to create my own prospecting network with nomads, not in Morocco where apparently many meteorite dealers were having good times. I spend many expeditions on the field with "my" group. They learned well and are now good and efficient prospectors. I supplied GPS to them. It allows me to go back where an interesting find was made. And it works. In 2001 this team recovered many meteorites and till that date they still provide me with large amount of meteorites. Having sorted out all importation and transportation probems, in 2002, I went professionnal in the way that I registred a business company " Caillou Noir " ( say "kayunwar" ) in France. ( A Caillou Noir is a Black Stone ) It mainly allows me buy and sell meteorites, but also to pay taxes on my meteorite business ! fair enougfh ! France is like that we have good social laws regarding health care .It is a cool country to live. And Sahara is not far ! 2 jet hours for Algeria, 5 hours to subsaharan countries. A lot of them. But let's come back to the meteorites I ( with my team) find. At the beginning, I named them SWA yyxxx ( standing for Some Where in the Sahara !) xx is a year and xxx my own serial number. I do not wish to disclose where my team works for evidentv reasons. I have invested some tens of thousands of euros ( 1 is $ 1.2 today) in raising this prospecting network. Now I have decided that I will name the " Caillou Noir meteorites" after thier local names. That is why you will discover new names on my ebay listings. Tioualoualene is a CV3 it was my SWA 02003 # ,TKW 741 g Techouen is a CO3 it was my SWA 02005, TKW 79 g Ti Hedjirine ( a recristallized eucrite ) was my SWA 02007. TKW 3960 g Ain Beida is a LL6 with no crust just a light grey stone, look on my site, it deserves the visit. More will come soon. You can find my meteorites on www.caillou-noir.com This site should look more professionnal soon. But this will not change the nature of the meteorites I offer for sale ! Thanks for having read this message. Best regards. Michel FRANCO Met Soc member IMCA # 3869. Caillou Noir 100 chemin des Campènes BP n° 16 74400 Les Praz de Chamonix. www.caillou-noir.com PS: No snow so far in the Northern French Alps. PPS: A bolide was heard 3 days ago around here. Nothing serious. PSS: I will visit my team by the second half of this december. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Missing photos on my ebay listing: here is the link !
| | Dear List; | | I have listed some nice individuals of the L3.8 I have recovered 2 years ago | in the Sahara, I call it Wadi Mellene after the name of the place where it | was found. I missed to put online the photos but you can see them at | | http://www.caillou-noir.com/wadimellenelist.htm | | The following link give access to all my last auctions | | http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=kayunwar&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50 | | Best regards | | Michel FRANCO | __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Note on meteorite descriptions.
Michael, Jim, Matteo, list, This is an interesting thread. I think it should be developped. And I have questions for experts like you guys. A: Does the presence of some flow lines is enough to say that a meteorite is oriented ? B. Does a meteorite with conical shape ( approx similar to Bob Haag Venus cone ) but without any crust ( due to a long stay on earth surface before find) can be said oriented . C: When thumbprints have a particular elliptical shape with a depressed side and a rim on the other side, is it a sign of orientation.? Best regards Michel FRANCO Caillou Noir - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Note on meteorite descriptions I would like to note that people need to learn a little about how to describe their meteorites. I have been perusing ebay, and I note so many flawed descriptions. People are either 1, trying to deceive, or 2, just clueless about what they have. For instance, Steve Arnold list a piece of Orissa that broke off of his larger piece, then calling it a "complete individual". People, this is a fragment, NOT an individual. An individual is a complete piece, or almost complete, where you can see it was completely covered in fusion crust, or if broken, you can see that it is nearly complete, not a broken off fragment from a much larger piece. Casper used to pull the same crap, describing complete individuals then selling you fragments with a scrap of crust. Another problem I see alot is "oriented". Most of the stones I see on ebay described as oriented never were, nor even begin to look oriented. To be oriented, it needs to clearly show that it maintained a particular flight orientation, and in doing so will show flow lines in one direction, usually the backside is flat and lipped. Some of the boxy pieces that I see as oriented on ebay could not be further from the truth. We need to clear this up and jump on these people who take liberty to trump up the pieces they are selling with false claims. Mike Farmer
[meteorite-list] *** Ebay SALES *** Big ones ! NO RESERVE .
Dear list I had the pleasure to list 24 new auctions ending next sunday 14 dec. Allare at starting price $1 and without reserve. They include many Wadi Mellene Individuals ( L3.8) from 79 g to 5 kg, I have also listed some rare ( L, H and LL ) Dag and HaH slices, and the 2 Carbonaceous and a recristallized Eucrite that I have recovered in the Sahara in the last years. Please have a look at http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=kayunwar&; include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50 Thanks for looking and for bidding. Best regards Michel FRANCO __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Note on meteorite descriptions.
TKS Jim
All your ansewer makes sense.
This can be a real rule and easy for all !
The term flight marked is not often used, am I
right? I will use it now.
Best regards
Michel FRANCO
- Original Message -
From:
Jim
Strope
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:13
PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Note on
meteorite descriptions.
My opinion on your points...
A - I would term the mere presence of flow lines as saying that the
meteorite was "flight marked" but not necessarily Oriented.
B - I don't think that the absence of fusion crust would mean that a
specimen could not be Oriented. An example would be the famous "King of
Irons" Gibeon. In my opinion, Orientation refers to shape also.
C- Yes, I believe that the elongation of regmaglypts is a sign of
possible orientation. When this is combined with a flat bottom with a
roll over rim the signs of Orientation are even more convincing.
I think the real test of orientation is when you can look at the piece
and actually visualize the direction of flight. I have seen many photos
on ebay described as oriented where I ask myself - "Oriented in what
direction?"
Orientation should be obvious to the casual observer or the term "flight
marked" should be used.
Best Wishes to all..
Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV 26038
Catch a Falling Star Meteoriteshttp://www.catchafallingstar.com
- Original Message -
From:
Michel Franco
To: Michael Farmer ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 3:24
AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Note on
meteorite descriptions.
Michael, Jim, Matteo, list,
This is an interesting thread.
I think it should be developped. And I
have questions for experts like you guys.
A: Does the presence of some flow lines is
enough to say that a meteorite is oriented ?
B. Does a meteorite with conical shape ( approx
similar to Bob Haag Venus cone ) but without any crust ( due to a long stay
on earth surface before find) can be said oriented .
C: When thumbprints have a
particular elliptical shape with a depressed side and a rim on the
other side, is it a sign of orientation.?
Best regards
Michel FRANCO
Caillou Noir
[meteorite-list] *** Big individuals on Ebay ***
Dear list I have listed some nice and big individuals on ebay of my personnal recovered finds, which includes: Wadi Mellene ( L3.8) , BIG INDIVIDUALS Some of my new finds in the Sahara including a very interesting meteorites: Eucrite ( TI HEDJIRINE ) 2 Carbonaceous chondrites (TECHOUEN C03 and TIOULALOUALENE CV3) Techouen has a ridiculous TKW of 79 g. Take your chance I have little left. Some rare DAG and HaH . Just have a look for fun. Thanks for bidding. Best regards Michel FRANCO Met Soc member and IMCA #3869 member __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Caliche removal technique wanted !
Dear List I wander if there is a micraculous technique to eliminate calice from meteorites. I have noticed that calice protects well the crust but it is always hard to get totally rid if it. Best regards Michel FRANCO __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group
Sorry Chtristian and Peter, I did not read the message related to Ebay. I was very pissed off by many non meteorite related messages that I almost stop reading all. I understand that there should not be any annoucement of Ebay Sales on this list. Just 2 questions: Is it in the list policy ? STeve is probably right. Some times ago I understood that we shoud clearly write ADD ebay on the object so anyone can automatically skip off the messages with the Outlook ( or other ) t messages tools Where should I send my ebay sales adds ? Personnaly I don't care send messages to other lists. Sorry again. BTW I have 23 auctions ending in a couple of hours ! Best regards Michel. - Original Message - From: Peter Marmet To: list Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group Christian Anger wrote: ...I think the idea to keep ebay announcements off this list has died. Still many members like Michel Franco (sorry Michel but you are just only ONE example for what I want to say becuase you recently did it) have not accepted Steve's idea... Hello list, I like to find all ebay and all other AD's on this very list. Somtimes items are sold within a few minutes and I don't like to check the yahoo list every 5 minutes. I made a couple of very good buys thanks to AD's on this list. For some items I was - unfortunately - too late as they were put on the list when it was 3:30AM in Europe :-( (e.g. 5g of Ensisheim). PS.: I think that Meteorite AD's are much more meteorite related than a lot of other contributions that have recently reached this list! Peter Marmet, Bern
Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group
Dear all, Just to make the thing progress a bit, Would any of the Ten Group tell us if they saw a significative change in their auctions since they did not AD on the Met List ? I feel happy to comply with any rules, when it is clear and official. Perhaps Art can help us to sort out this tread. Best regards From Chamonix ( no snow so far) Michel FRANCO - Original Message - From: "David Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jim Strope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Michel Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Peter Marmet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group > Dear List; > I agree with Jim! The delete button is what one needs to figure out, > Eye to Brain to Finger to Delete button. Fragmenting meteorites to this > list, that list,all over the place due to lack of using a delete key > fingerand being upset with modern business > practicesEGEBAY...is just sour grapes, get a life! > I welcome ebay adds to the list most of the time and refuse to shop to a > dozen different places to see adds...Hell, I can still find ebay.com and > bypass a bunch of lists if that was the direction needed. Old timers > should rest prehistoric views. > Thanks Jim, > Dave Freeman > eBay user ID mjwy with non meteorite auctions running. > > Jim Strope wrote: > > > There is NO list policy banning the announcement of ebay auctions on > > this list. It was agreed some time ago that the word "ad" should > > appear in the subject line so that list members not wanting to read > > advertisements did not have to even open the email. Check the list > > policies and you see that I am correct. > > > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing_list.shtml > > > > > > > > Just because some list members HATE ebay does not mean they have the > > power to ban ebay ads. They should direct their efforts to more > > important list problems such as vulgarity and flame wars. > > > > > > > > So post away Michel. I would love to know when your ebay ads appear. > > > > > > > > Jim Strope > > 421 Fourth Street > > Glen Dale, WV 26038 > > > > > > > > Catch a Falling Star Meteorites > > http://www.catchafallingstar.com > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: Michel Franco <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To:Peter Marmet <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; list > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 1:25 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's > > attempt for a new group > > > > > > Sorry Chtristian and Peter, > > > > > > > > I did not read the message related to Ebay. I was very pissed off > > by many non meteorite related messages that I almost stop reading all. > > > > > > > > I understand that there should not be any annoucement of Ebay > > Sales on this list. > > > > > > > > Just 2 questions: > > > > Is it in the list policy ? > > > > STeve is probably right. Some times ago I understood that we shoud > > clearly write ADD ebay on the object so anyone can automatically > > skip off the messages with the Outlook ( or other ) t messages tools > > > > > > > > Where should I send my ebay sales adds ? Personnaly I don't care > > send messages to other lists. > > > > > > > > Sorry again. > > > > > > > > BTW I have 23 auctions ending in a couple of hours ! > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > > > > Michel. > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: Peter Marmet <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: list <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 2:08 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's > > attempt for a new group > > > > > > > > Christian Anger wrote: > > ...I think the idea to keep ebay announcements off this list > > has died. > > Still many members like Michel Franco (sorry Michel but you > > are just only > > ONE example for what I want to say becuase you recently did > >
Re: [meteorite-list] Bizarre Stone Found in the Sahara
Dear Adam, Have you a photo photo main mass or of a section ? This will help probably. Best regards Michel FRANCO - Original Message - From: "Bjørn Sørheim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bizarre Stone Found in the Sahara > >From Moon, Mars or Earth then... > > Regards, > Bjørn Sørheim > > At 08:08 26.12.03 -0800, you wrote: > >Dear Charles and List Members, > > > >Sorry about turning this stone into a mystery but none of our team members > >or the field scientist can identify what class of meteorite this odd stone > >will fall into, if any. Dr. Irving is coming by today to certify the weight > >of this meteorite and to remove a type specimen for study. We will be able > >to give more details and pictures after the meteorite is cut and team > >members are offered a first glance at the images. All of our observations > >so far have been made by examining a broken surface under a microscope. > > > >A few interesting observations are that: > > > >It is oriented > >It has flow lines on the exterior > >It has an extremely thin black fusion crust > >It is a fragmental breccia > >It is vesiculated > >It has no metal > >It is an achondrite > >It contains small gem quality crystals of various habits and color > >throughout the matrix > >and several other odd features > > > >Like we said, we have no idea what class this will fall into. > > > >All the best, > > > >Adam Hupe > >The Hupe Collection > >IMCA 2185 > > > > > > > >Hi Adam and team, > > > >Congrats on your successful trip. > > > >>We can not even try to describe one of the meteorites because it is so > >>bizarre, smells like another contest! > > > >Hoping you publish a picture of this soon so everyone can take a stab at > >it. It should be fun, and great new content for the list. > > > >Regards, > >CharlyV > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Jamie Platt contact
Dear List I am triing to send an email to Jamie ( Platt2oo on Ebay). my emails to him are rejected by the net ! Does anyone has anothe email for him ? best regards and happy new year. Michel FRANCO Caillou Noir IMCA #3968 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Attention Jamie Platt
Dear List I can't contact Jamie directly and use this list to do it. Please apologizes for this private use of the list. best wishes Michel FRANCO Jamie: Once again a probelm lead to reject the last email I send you. Have you another one , to avoid using the list fopr our private messages ? - Original Message - From: "Michel Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jamie Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 3:54 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Jamie Platt contact > Jamie > > Yes I have tried to contcat you several times and your emails were rejected. > > I was proposing a 74 g individual to replace the 54 g sold before and was > asking for your agreement . > > Best regards. > > Michel > - Original Message - > From: "Jamie Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Michel Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 10:23 PM > Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Jamie Platt contact > > > > Michel - > > I'm here on the list but to email me individually use [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I'd > > emailed a question to you a few days ago that I assume you are trying to > > respond to, so I look forward to hearing from you. Take care. > > > > Jamie Platt > > Heaven Sent Alpacas > > 2842 Townline Rd > > Madison Ohio 44057 > > (440)259-3564 > > www.HSAlpacas.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michel > > Franco > > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 12:03 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Jamie Platt contact > > > > > > Dear List > > > > I am triing to send an email to Jamie ( Platt2oo on Ebay). > > my emails to him are rejected by the net ! > > Does anyone has anothe email for him ? > > > > best regards > > and happy new year. > > > > Michel FRANCO > > Caillou Noir > > IMCA #3968 > > > > > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Attention Jamie Platt
NONE OF YOUR EMAIL WORKS FROM HERE; CAN YOU READ THIS ONE; BEST REGARDS MICHEL > > > > Jamie > > > > Yes I have tried to contact you several times and your emails were > rejected. > > > > I was proposing a 74 g individual to replace the 54 g sold before and was > > asking for your agreement . > > > > Best regards. > > > > Michel > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jamie Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Michel Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 10:23 PM > > Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Jamie Platt contact > > > > > > > Michel - > > > I'm here on the list but to email me individually use [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I'd > > > emailed a question to you a few days ago that I assume you are trying to > > > respond to, so I look forward to hearing from you. Take care. > > > > > > Jamie Platt > > > Heaven Sent Alpacas > > > 2842 Townline Rd > > > Madison Ohio 44057 > > > (440)259-3564 > > > www.HSAlpacas.com > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michel > > > Franco > > > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 12:03 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Jamie Platt contact > > > > > > > > > Dear List > > > > > > I am triing to send an email to Jamie ( Platt2oo on Ebay). > > > my emails to him are rejected by the net ! > > > Does anyone has anothe email for him ? > > > > > > best regards > > > and happy new year. > > > > > > Michel FRANCO > > > Caillou Noir > > > IMCA #3968 > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Late but friendly,
Dear List The festivities for the 2004 new year were so hard that I am just coming back to terrestrial life this morning. Best falls and best finds to everyone. Happy new year. Michel FRANCO __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite slices
Guy I fully agree with you. Almost all meteorites can be polished and it is a real work, much more than slicing. Polishing a large slice is not so easy. And the result is obviously what is expected by any customer. Best regards Michel FRANCO IMCA 3869 - Original Message - From: "Guy Heinen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 5:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite slices > Dear listies, > > what do you think about meteorite slices showing still the marks of > the saw blade, giving you even the opportunity to calculate the saw > blade's diameter? > Alas, times of mirror-finished slices sold by dealers like David New > seem to be gone. > A proposal to dealers: > Sell your slices or partslices > a-quality: polished surface > b-quality: sawed surface. > Most meteorite collectors don't have grinding or polishing tools and > are collecting meteorites also for the aesthetics of a > mirror-finished surface showing fine details. > A partslice showing saw marks is something very ugly. Some collectors > seem to sublimate this ugliness by the thrill to held something > extraterrestrial in their hands and are not demanding for a quality > finished surface. > > My 2 (Euro)cents, > > Guy Heinen > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The bolide crossed Spain ?
Dear list Accoridng some info broadcasted tonite on french TV the bolide was seen from East N East to West S West approx from Protugal then above Madrid heading toward the mediterraneen sea. A wonderfull fire amateur movie showed the bolide. All for tonight. Michel FRANCO __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Spanish fireball trajectory
Thanks Marco for your analyse of the trajectory. We all look forward to see if there is or not some materail that reached the ground. Best regards Michel - Original Message - From: "Marco Langbroek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "meteorite list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 10:24 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Spanish fireball trajectory > > Accoridng some info broadcasted tonite on french TV the bolide was seen > from > > East N East to West S West approx from Protugal then above Madrid heading > > toward the mediterraneen sea. > > A wonderfull fire amateur movie showed the bolide. > > Some caution is in order here. The maps shown in the news probably merely > show the distribution of sighting locations (which is influenced by a.o. > weather), not the trajectory. The video from Leon probably is looking away > from the sun (sunlit wall with shadow visible), probably north-northeast, > and in > this video it should move to the right if the trajectory shown on the news > maps is correct. Yet in the video it moves at a ~ 45 degree angle to the > left, not the right. This is only possible for someone north of the > trajectory looking south if the directions given in the news would be > correct: but that cannot be given the shadow & sunlight on the appartement > building in the > video. > > I found the fireball on the video to move rather fast, so I doubt whether > there are any meteorites. > > - Marco > > -- > Marco Langbroek > Dutch Meteor Society > Leiden, the Netherlands > 52.15896 N, 4.48884 E (WGS 84) > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > website: http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek > weblog: http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek/iss_log.html > -- > > > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Cleaning Rusty Chondrites
> Dear list > > I am wondering if there is a method ( chemical or other ) to eliminate rust > from chondrite crust. Could method used for the Nantan or Campos irons be > adapted ? > I was naively thinking that rust comes from iron in the meteorites and that > it could be possible to elilminate it or at least reduce it as it is done on > irons. > Any comment will be appreciated. > best regards > > Michel FRANCO > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: AD EBAY SALES nice shaped individuals
- Original Message - From: "Michel Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 10:32 AM Subject: AD EBAY nice shape individuals > Dear List > > I have listed 21 items ending in 3 days. > > You can see them at > > http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=kayunwar&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50 > > You will discover my classics plus some meteorites with very nice shape ( > crust and regmaglypts from 20 g to 335 g ) The 335 g individuals in really a > nice meteorite, one you wish to have in you collection. > > There is also a never listed L4 from Dag a interesting meteorite with > chondrules and crust. > > Thanks for looking and good bids. > > Best regards > > Michel FRANCO > > Snowing here ! > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD EBAY SALES ending in some hours.
> Dear list > > I have some nice crusted individuals from a new strewn field on ebay ending > tonite. > They really deserve a look before you go to Tucson. > > http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=kayunwar&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50 > > I also put a wrong photo related to Titolar 66 g individual You can find the right > photo on my web site at www.caillou-noir.com > > Best regards > > Michel FRANCO > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Puzzle
If you wish to be able to "de-glue" them later, you can use the wax which is used for thin sections; You will find waxes that melt at 60 °C . Put your meteorites in an owen at 65 ° C. When they are in hot in mass, Put wax fragments between pieces and make it tight. When cooled down, you will have anice meteorite. Most waxes solves in Alcohol or similar non damageable liquid for meteorites. Wax seller will give you the name of the right liquid. 65 ° C will not affect you ordinary meteorites. - Original Message - From: "Tom aka James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "M Taliento" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Puzzle > OR, Maybe glue small pieces of Velcro on the broken surfaces and you can > have the best of both worlds? > Thanks, Tom > Peregrineflier <>< > IMCA 6168 > > - Original Message - > From: M Taliento <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 10:35 AM > Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Puzzle > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Sent: 15 January 2004 16:52 > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Puzzle > > > > > >Hi, > > > > > >I recently bought a Gold basin meteorite puzzle. Should this be put back > > >together with a permanent glue or is there somthing else to use . It > > >would be nice to put back together, but once it's glued thats it. > > >Thanks Sonny > > > > > > > This is just the personal opinion of a novice but if I were fortunate > > enough to own a meteorite puzzle I think I'd display all the parts in a > > single suitably sized tray of sand or something similar. Just seeing it > > like that would invite me or others to "put it back together again" over > > and over. It would certainly be the centerpiece of MY modest > collection..Mike > > > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Scaling cube
Dar list I am looking for these nice 1 cm or 1 inch cubes with the N S E W U D indications. Anymone on the list can orient me toward a seller ? TKS in advance. Best snowy regards Michel FRANCO IMCA 3869 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What do you think of that?
PLEASE DON't MIX UP ALL EUROPEAN DEALERS. my 2 cents MICHEL FRANCO, HUNTER AND DEALER. - Original Message - From: "Martin Altmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What do you think of that? > "the European dealers should be proud of Matteo and his rants." > > ??? > > and the US-dealers of their prices? > > Martin A. > > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "David > Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 12:46 AM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What do you think of that? > > > > the problem I have with you is that you stole some Fredericksburg > meteorite > > from me, you bought it, never paid it off, and claim that since it rusted, > > you need not pay. > > That makes you a thief. > > the European dealers should be proud of Matteo and his rants. > > Mike Farmer > > - Original Message - > > From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "David Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:03 PM > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What do you think of that? > > > > > > > The same I task of meteorites found in America, for me > > > is all imported from the desert and strangely found in > > > USA deserts, and strangely I am not the only one to > > > think them but also persons of some laboratories > > > that strange eh? However I will report several to the > > > European dealers - all serious ones to 100% at the > > > moment, while for the moment the only problems that I > > > have had have been alone with > > > Americans - about what some personages think about > > > they. > > > > > > > > > Matteo > > > > > > > > > --- David Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Half the meteorites I see posted from European > > > > amatures are fraudulent. > > > > I SUSPECT ALL with low credentials. Even here in the > > > > United States. > > > > Unless they are found by Marines... ;-) > > > > Dave Freeman > > > > > > > > M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: > > > > > > > > >whyis not possible find a iron meteorite in > > > > Spain? > > > > >Or is type the question italian meteorites, > > > > impossible > > > > >to find? If this is a Sikhote alin well, for me the > > > > >Taza is all sikhote's find in desert see is many > > > > many > > > > >similar, or Etter for me is a NWA put in > > > > USAhard > > > > >give a confirm > > > > > > > > > >Matteo > > > > > > > > > >--- "Jerry A. Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >http://cgi.ebay.at/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2219315732&category=3239 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><http://cgi.ebay.at/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2219315732&category=3239 > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>Kind regards, > > > > >>> > > > > >>>*Bernhard "/Rendelius"/ Rems* > > > > >>> > > > > >>Well, Bernhard, I had the same initial reaction to > > > > >>the pictures that > > > > >>Dave F. did; it sure > > > > >>looked like some Sikhote Alin schrapnel. > > > > >> > > > > >>But aside from that, judging from their eBay ad > > > > text > > > > >>description, it > > > > >>appears that there > > > > >>are none of the standard descriptors nor expected > > > > >>phrases present in the > > > > >>ad that would > > > > >>lend credibility to their claim of having found a > > > > >>meteorite, with one > > > > >>exception which I > > > > >>will expand on below. > > > > >> > > > > >>Some descriptors and/
