[meteorite-list] 2014 Tucson Harvey Award short note
List, Thanks for so many nice notes and comments from list members. I felt my post was getting too long so I left off thanking two list members who were so important in my finding my second and third meteorites in Yelland, NV. Mark Bowling and his dad were there with metal detectors, advice and friendship! Kim Cathcart was also very helpful in hunting techniques and support. I am sitting here two weeks into total knee replacement and looking forward to Ensisheim in June. Best Regards, Fred Olsen, Denver __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2014 Tucson Harvey Award
List, This never arrived on list because it was in HTML Thanks again to Geoff and Steve! From: "debf...@att.net" To: meteorite list Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:00 PM Subject: 2014 Tucson Harvey Award I want to thank my friends Geoff and Steve and the esteemed members of the Harvey award committee for honoring me with the 2014 lifetime achievement award. I sprained my ankle on the day before the bash and was unable to attend the festivities. I owe so much to Steve and Geoff for teaching me everything they know about meteorites. Ever since Mark Bostick won a Harvey award back at the old Ramada Inn, I have been saving my shekels in hopes of “winning" an award myself. I would like to take this opportunity to explain what meteorites have meant to me over the last 4 decades! I saw, held and purchased my first meteorite in May 1969 from Fred Pough who had just driven from Allende, Mexico to Gainesville, Florida where I was attending geology graduate school. I had read Brian Mason’s book on meteorites, but had never actually seen one. The 85 gram stone I purchased did not look like I thought a meteorite should. No visible metal, very dark inside, but a beautiful glassy fusion crust. I took it to the geology lab where I cut a small slice off and made a petrographic thin section. It was beautiful, I was hooked and that Allende meteorite became my favorite rock. I now have a meteorite thin section collection with over 500 slides. Later in 1969 I made my first driving trip to Alaska. On the return trip I stopped in San Francisco and purchased the largest horseshoe magnet the hardware store had and then I drove to Meteor Crater, Arizona. I searched for several hours and found quite a bit of “meteorite oxide but no unoxidized metal. Little did I expect that I would spend hundreds of hours during the next four decades before I would find my first meteorite. It wasn’t until February, 2012 when I found several Gold Basin meteorites during 3 days of searching With Keith Jenkerson. It only took another 4 months to make my second and then third finds in Yelland, Nevada, where I searched the dry lake beds with Mike and Bill Jensen. Then In May 2012 I spent a morning in Morocco with Adam Arronson and Hasnaa Chennaoui documenting the strewn field of the Howardite, NWA 6560, I went back to my old ways and found nothing except the impact pit for the main mass. In August 1999 My wife Debbie Baldwin and I went to France with our University classmate, Jean G. Klein, who was born and raised in Ingwiller, Alsace, which is north of Ensisheim. Jean was my best friend in geology graduate school where we often talked about visiting his homeland. Jean followed the example of his father Georges Klein who was a teacher and school administrator in Ingwiller. Jean became the chairman of the department of geology at Santa Fe College I was a faculty member and taught geology and physical science for twelve years. For me the two must visit places in France were the Rochechouart impact crater and the Ensisheim Meteorite. After the total eclipse of the sun we drove down from Ingwiller and spent the day exploring the Ensisheim area and visiting the museum and Ensisheim meteorite. This was one year before the Ensisheim Meteorite Fair Began. I am planning on attending the 15th annual Fair in June 2014 with my wife and look forward to seeing many of my meteorite friends. After I returned to Colorado, I decided to produce an accurate reproduction of the famous woodcut broadsheet depicting “The fall of the thunderstone of Ensisheim, 1492”. In 2003, I started by making a mirror image and carve it into a large hard maple board. Then I found Rob Barns who had a centuries old screw type printing press. We then printed the image onto Arches handmade paper (The Arches Company was founded in France in 1492). I then learned to hand make watercolor paints using natural minerals and materials available at the time the meteorite fell. I received a US copyright for the image I produced. Anne Black has been selling my prints. I have made dozens of presentations on Meteorites to the Geological Society of America, US Air Force Academy, Colorado Scientific Society, Colorado School of Mines, Denver Astronomy Club, and too many others to mention. . In 1995 I started a company, We B Meteorites to supply meteorites for science and education. I am a member of the Meteoritical Society, Geological Society of America and a founding member of the Colorado Meteorite Society, (COMETS) and the International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA). I have been instrumental in sample preparation and having thin sections made for the classification of over twenty new meteorites from North America and Africa. I have worked with Gary Huss, Melinda Hutson, Alex Ruzickca, John Wasson, Carl Agee, Ted Bunch and Tony Irving in the process of meteorite classifications. Personally I have been very fortunate to have made so many fri
[meteorite-list] (no subject)
Hello list, The first thing I tried to do when I started my box company 10 years ago was to try to find someone to make a high quality riker display box at a reasonable price. I was unable to do so until late last year. I have two sizes now and am adding a larger 7.5 X 10.75 inch size next month. I will also have a nice foam insert with black on one side and white on other for about for smaller boxes and for foam for larger box. You can look at rikers at http://www.rockboxes.com/ and I will list some on ebay as soon as I am able. I am getting a new knee tomorrow so will be out for a couple of weeks. Thanks, Fred Olsen, Denver __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Holiday Meteorite
Bob and Listifers, I would have to say a nice fresh whole stone (30g) of Sutters Mill. Especially after reading the trails and tribulations of ET in his search for SM. Just drop it through the mail slot, I will place a pillow under the slot to catch it. Merry Christmas, Fred Olsen - Original Message From: Bob Falls To: IMCA Mailing List Sent: Tue, December 18, 2012 8:27:53 PM Subject: [IMCA] Holiday Meteorite Hello Everyone! Since it tis the season I would like to ask everyone a question just for some holiday fun: If you could have a beautifully wrapped present this holiday season that contained one very special specimen that you have always wanted in your collection what would it be? Do not consider cost; simply what is that one piece that you have always wanted for the collection! Looking forward to hearing from everyone about the piece on the top of the wish list!! Best wishes to all! Bob Falls Vice-President I.M.C.A. Inc. Member #2413 www.imca.cc __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] test: Hello from Denver
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[meteorite-list] Tucson-meteorite thin sections
I will be bringing 100 top quality meteorite thin sections with me to Tucson. I will have a great selection of chondrites, achondrites, lunars, and martians. I will be in also selling boxes in my tent in front of the Hotel Tucson City Center. Stop by and have a look. I will be on the road for the next few days and won't check emails. Thanks, Fred Olsen, 303-748-7400 __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: [COMETS] Berthoud (Colorado) meteorite coin will be auctioned at the COMETS auction at the Denver Show
- Forwarded Message From: Bob Loeffler To: "rockhou...@drizzle.com: A mailing list for rock and gem collectors" ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: cometeoritec...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, September 6, 2011 8:41:37 AM Subject: [COMETS] Berthoud (Colorado) meteorite coin will be auctioned at the COMETS auction at the Denver Show Hi All! Fred Olsen let me know that we have received the customized Berthoud Eucrite Meteorite coins from the stamper (or whoever does that kind of thing) and we will be auctioning #001 at our annual auction NEXT WEEK! The coin is very cool Please see the following web page for coin details and pictures: http://www.peaktopeak.com/comets/articles/berthoud_coin.htm Auction details are on this page: http://www.peaktopeak.com/comets/auction.htm Regards, Bob Loeffler Colorado Meteorite Society (COMETS) _ From: debf...@att.net [mailto:debf...@att.net] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:26 PM To: b...@peaktopeak.com Subject: meteorite coin and auction Bob, I just got the coins, I do plan on auctioning this #001 coin in our auction. Others will be available on ebay. Also a write up on coin: This 2 inch diameter medal was made to commerate the fall of the Berthoud, Colorado eucrite meteorite at 1:33 pm on October 5th, 2004 . A single 960 gram stone was observed to hit the ground in a horse pen about 100 feet south of the farm house depicted on the coin. Longs Peak, a 14,000 ft tall mountain can be seen to the west in the background. The beautiful glossy black crusted stone was recovered just minutes after it fell. It is just the second Colorado meteorite collected on the day it fell. The other side of the medal shows the incredible image of the asteroid Vesta from the spacecraft DAWN taken on July 24, 2011. Vesta is the presumed parent body of the HED meteorites including the Berthoud eucrite along with the Johnstown diogenite which fell 5 miles east of the Berthoud fall some eighty years earlier. Johnstown is the other meteorite recovered on the day it fell, 4:20 pm on July 6th, 1924. The Colorado Meteorite Society "COMETS" is working to find a donor or donors to keep the 247g crusted main mass for display in a Colorado Museum. If you want to put this on website OK Regards, Fred _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3872 - Release Date: 09/02/11 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group MARKETPLACE A bad score is 598. A bad idea is not checking yours, at freecreditscore.com. Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now. Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Flanged Buttons
Listees, How many are there? What is best estimate on the number of perfect or near perfect flanged buttons? Will one million dollars buy them all? Thanks, Fred Olsen __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Boy Scout meteorite display
Hello List, I just got the totals for my Meteorite Display at the Boy Scout day at Dinosaur Ridge in Denver. One Thousand and Eight Hundred (1,800) Cub and Boy Scouts with many of their family members came to work on their astronomy and geology merit badges. I didn't have a chance to talk to every one but I was very busy for over six hours. I had nice fresh Allende, Thuathe, regmaglypted Sikhote, Sikhote schrapnal, Gibeon slices, Toluca etched end cut, NWA 869, Wells Creek shattercones, Libyan Desert Glass, Phillipianite tektite, Vredefort impact melt breccia, Canyon Diablo individual and spheroids, and slices of a NWA L3 chondrite, Johnstown Diogenite, and NWA 047 Eucrite. The kids loved the opportunity to get a hands on experience with real meteorites. I am already planning a bigger and better display for next year. Best Regards, Fred Olsen __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MegaThanks to Gary Fujihara
Gary, I want to take this opportunity to try to thank you for arranging tours last month of the NASA and Subaru Telescopes on top of Mauna Kea. I was astounded by the incredible engineering and construction of these beautiful instruments. Larry Johnson, Carol Johnson and my wife Debbie and I can't thank you enough for arraigning for us to join another group on a scheduled tour of these facilities! It made feel very humble and also very proud to be a human and supporter of these endeavors. It was great to hear of the discovery of water ice on the asteroid, perhaps the very day we were there. Again words are insufficient to express my gratitude for your kindness. Mahalo! Big Kahuna, Mahalo! Fred Olsen, Denver __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Your top meteor sightings!
My Bad, Elbert is an LL6. I think it was the 4th of 5 wittnessed falls in Colorado. -- Original message -- From: debf...@att.net > > Hello List, My TOP meteor sighting has to be Jan. 11th 1998 just after midnight. My wife and I were on our way home from a friends birthday party in Lakewood, Colorado. We were on the Colfax viaduct where it crosses the Platt River, Interstate 25, and many rail lines when the sky to the south lit up like it was daytime. We looked and saw a incredible meteor moving at a low angle from west to east over Pikes > Peak. The meteor lasted a few seconds and the sky went dark. I was part of a search team organized by the Denver Museum and later have spent several days looking for the meteorites it may have produced. I think it was about two years later when a young boy found a beautiful black crusted meteorite in the projected strewnfield. It has been classified as a L6 chondrite. Then just a couple of years ago Matt Morgan and Gary Curtiss were able to purchase that stone. Thanks to them I was able to purchase a full slice and I now am able > to look over at my display case and see that "meteor" any time I want. It is > so > special, I feel incredibly lucky to have a piece of the Elbert Meteorite! I > have > often wondered how many others on the list have seen a meteor and then were > able > to obtain a piece of the meteorite that produced it? > > Best Regards, Fred Olsen, Denver > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Your top meteor sightings!
Hello List, My TOP meteor sighting has to be Jan. 11th 1998 just after midnight. My wife and I were on our way home from a friends birthday party in Lakewood, Colorado. We were on the Colfax viaduct where it crosses the Platt River, Interstate 25, and many rail lines when the sky to the south lit up like it was daytime. We looked and saw a incredible meteor moving at a low angle from west to east over Pikes Peak. The meteor lasted a few seconds and the sky went dark. I was part of a search team organized by the Denver Museum and later have spent several days looking for the meteorites it may have produced. I think it was about two years later when a young boy found a beautiful black crusted meteorite in the projected strewnfield. It has been classified as a L6 chondrite. Then just a couple of years ago Matt Morgan and Gary Curtiss were able to purchase that stone. Thanks to them I was able to purchase a full slice and I now am able to look over at my display case and see that "meteor" any time I want. It is so special, I feel incredibly lucky to have a piece of the Elbert Meteorite! I have often wondered how many others on the list have seen a meteor and then were able to obtain a piece of the meteorite that produced it? Best Regards, Fred Olsen, Denver > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ablation Zone 5 Layers...Not
List, I think Jason has done a fine job with his position with which I agree. I don't want to beat a dead horse but Here are published definitions of fusion crusts on irons. “Fusion Crust” Definition from Glossary of Geology 2nd edition 1980; American Geological Institute, Falls Church, Virginia, 751pp. Fusion crust A thin glassy coating, usually black and rarely exceeding one millimeter in thickness, formed on the surface of a meteorite by frictional heating during atmospheric flight. Owing to differing effects of the atmosphere upon different meteorite surfaces, fusion crusts may be knobby, striated, ribbed, net, porous, warty, or scoriaceous. Several points stand out upon careful reading of this definition. The term glassy is an adjective not a noun. Glassy is a term commonly used in describing surface luster in mineralogy. Composition: Silica, silicate, silicon and iron are not mentioned at all. Apparently composition is not pertinent to the matter. Other terms like warty and seem to refer to fusion crust on irons. Looking further for definitions used specifically by meteoriticists we find a definition on pages 44-45 by Brian Mason in his classic book, “Meteorites”. Mason presents the classification of Krinov (1960) that also seems to have been a source for the Glossary’s definition. It is rather long but I will post the complete definition because many people have complained there wasn’t a good published definition of fusion crust for meteorites. Fusion Crust A freshly fallen meteorite is covered with a fusion crust, except on fracture surfaces produced on or shortly before impact. The nature of the fusion crust varies somewhat, according to the composition of the meteorite. On most meteorites it is black, but on the enstatite achondrites it is colorliess or pale yellow, because of the almost complete absence of iron in these meteorites. The fusion crust on iron meteorites is very thin, only a fraction of a millimeter, and consists of magnetite. The fusion crust on stone meteorites is thicker, and consists of a black glass which includes fragments of the less fusible mineral such as olivine. On chondrites and the calcium-poor achondrites the crust is usually dull, but on calcium-rich achondrites, which are more fusible than other stony meteorites, the crust is shiny and lustrous, and also thicker than on other types. Sometimes the crust shows a network of fine cracks, similar to the “crazing” which appears in the glaze of pottery. Krinov (1960) has made detailed studies of the nature of meteorites, and presents the following classification: Class I. Crust of Frontal Surfaces Type 1, Close-textured. The crust is perfectly smooth, as though it had been pressed, with practically no indications of structure. Observed mainly upon iron meteorites and covers surfaces, which generally exhibit considerable marks of atmospheric action, regardless of whether the surface has regmaglyptic relief. Type 2, Nodular. Upon a smooth, close textured crust, fine angular nodules are visible scattered over the surface of the meteorite. Upon stony meteorites, on which this type is mainly found, the nodules represent fused inclusions of nickeliferous iron. Class II. Crust of Lateral Surfaces Type 1. Striated. Upon a smooth, close-textured crust thin striae are visible that seem to be flowing across the surface of the meteorite. Very often the striae are directed toward the rear part of a meteorite, thus clearly indicating the direction of its motion. Upon iron meteorites the striae quite often end in drops, which are sometimes of spherical form. There are also observed curves or even seemingly broken striae which abruptly change direction. Now and then an intricate pattern of the striated crust can be seen. In rarer cases several systems of striae are observed, superimposed one on top of the other and intersecting at various angles. In such cases the striae of the bottom system appear to be wide and flat, while those of the upper system are thin. Particularly sharply defined striated crustal structure is observed near the sharp edges of lateral surfaces, adjacent to the rear surfaces of iron meteorites. Upon stony meteorites more or less distinct striae are usually observed along the edges of lateral surfaces. Striae are easily distinguishable on the rims between regmaglypts. Type 2. Ribbed. Represents an intermediate type between the modular and striated crust and is found only upon stony meteorites. The ribs appear like underdeveloped striae. Type 3. Net. The crust is formed of short striae running together, lending it the appearance of a fine-mesh net. Individual cells of the mesh appear like stitches. Is observed mainly upon more friable stony meteorites, usually near the edges of lateral surfaces or near protuberances. Type 4. Porous. At magnification of 15-30X tiny pores can be seen clearly upon the crust. Sometimes the crust
Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons--Not
Carl, I need some help here. Which one of these elements or minerals is in the silicate group? Sikhote-Alin is a coarse iron octahedrite. Its composition is as follows: 5.9% nickel, 0.42 % cobalt, 0.46% phosphorus, 0.28% sulfur, smaller amounts of germanium and iridium, and the remainder (approximately 93%) is iron. The following minerals are present: taenite, plessite, rhabites, troilite, chromite, kamacite, and schreibersite crystals. ... Regards, Fred -- Original message -- From: > If I'm not mistaken. The crust shown on Sikhotes may well be a true fusion crust > because sikhote does contain some silicate minerals within it. It is the irons without silicates that cannot produce a true fusion crust. And as Elton said, Nobody has ever shown one of these non-silicate irons with fusion crust. In fact the two examples shown are the only examples I have ever seen of any type of iron meteorite with fusion crust, not counting true silicated irons > of course. Does anyone have other pictures of any irons with fusion crusts to share? Thanks > Carl > -- > Carl or Debbie Esparza > Meteoritemax > > > ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote: > > Hi Elton, > > > I think it is that thin coating of magnetite that most folks are calling a > fusion crust on fresh irons...what else can it be called? > > > As you say, unfortunately it is quite fragile and on most irons it flakes or comes off after very little time in our climate, so most of those wonderful > looking sikhote alins at the shows have actually been cleaned and treated and > have lost the magnetite 'fusion crust'. I have seen many with remnants which > you > can see still peeling off but rarely in their pristine matt grey original > state. > Also, as you say, those flow lines can be still present mostly underneath > when > the magnetite/crust has gone but are I think much more detailed and sharp > when > the magnetite coating is fresh. > > > > If you know of a different name/term to call the magnetite coating on fresh > irons other than fusion crust then I am sure we would all like to know what > we > should call it? > > > > Regards, > > > > Graham > > > > > > > > MEM wrote: > > > Stopping in a few minutes to state again that all this discussion about > fusion crust on irons is right next to unicorns postulations. Everyone says > that fusion crust on irons exists but no one can come up with the proof. > Non-silicate bearing irons DO NOT/CANNOT have FUSION crust: they have a very > fragile magentite micro-crystal "film" and they have an ablation surface but, > they can't by definition have a "fusion crust" and no matter whom the expert > quoted they still do not have a fusion crust. A fusion crust has to have a > silicate source to for the glass component of the crust-- Nada, Nix, No How. > > > > > > > Both silicate and non-silicate meteorites have an ablated/ablation > > > surface, > and they can show flight features--but not all meteorites have a fusion > crust. > I have some OCs which have flow lines UNDER the fusion crust remnants. > > > > > > If anyone still defends the presence of fusion crust on (non-silicate > bearing) irons then show me the "crust"...can't?..ok show me the glass? > right then-- no photos, no thin sections, no micro graphs???..And while > there was one close up of an ablated surface showing soft wavy lines of > briefly > melted metal that was aligned to aerodynamic vectors--This does not fusion > crust > make. > > > > > > Unlike in politics and public opinion, in science, no matter how often an > untruth is repeated it doesn't become "truth" by majority belief. But > science, > being a human endeavor, sometimes can find itself "off track" and when it > does > it accepts the error and gets back on track. > > > > > > Elton > > > __ > > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons--Not
It seems it depends on what your definition of is, is? If your definition of fusion crust is "that it contains silicates" then by your definition irons cannot have a "fusion crust". They undeniably can have a layer of atmospherically melted then cooled material that formed from the unaltered underlying iron meteor. It forms in an identical fashion to Fusion crust on stony meteors! Call it peanut butter or blue cheese it doesn't matter to me. Irons have fusion crust in my book. Regards Fred Olsen -- Original message -- From: "Martin Altmann" > > Unlike in politics and public opinion (and sometimes in science), > in meteoritics > it sometimes can be more difficult to adhere to theories/legends, > if one gets samples in ones very hands, which exhibit the opposite of that, > the theory postulates. > > If you ever had an early picked Sikhote at hand, > or if you had taken from Andi Gren's Boguslavka slices > (a fall, who simply hadn't enough time in field, to develop a magnetite, > wuestite, limonite or whatever -ite weathering crust), > you would be very surprised. > > Cause they don't display that ominous blue-ish flimsy luster, which is often > reported as fusion crust, > > but a thick and fat layer of a discernibly different matter than the > material beneath, of a dark colour and rough to silky surface. > > I never believed in iron fusion crusts neither, but when I got in these > freshly picked up observed falls, I was disabused. > > Main problem in that question is, as it was correctly mentioned here, > that we simply have so few pristine samples of fresh iron falls and that > most irons we get in our collections arrive with weathered or artificially > cleaned surfaces. > > Now you may argue about the word "crust" as a (pseudo-)scientific term... > well for me scientific terms are best, when they keep most of their meaning > they have in their common use in the language. > And there crust - meanst for me a layer on the outside of an object. > > .and we have the problem, that there exist these freshly fallen lumps > with that strange crust. Shall we hide them in the deepest corner of our > drawers, cause they don't fit in the axiom, that fusion crusts are fusion > crusts only, when silicates are melting? > > Sometimes, if the results don't fit into a theory, one has to think about > modifying the theory, > > Else there wouldn't be no meteorites in our sense at all, > Nada, Niente, Nix, Nimic, > cause we all would know that they are products of our Aristotelian > atmosphere, solified accumulations of terrestrial vapours and probably > created by lightning strokes, > wouldn't we? > > Best! > Martin > > > > > > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von MEM > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. November 2009 04:31 > An: Meteorites USA; metlist > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons--Not > > Stopping in a few minutes to state again that all this discussion about > fusion crust on irons is right next to unicorns postulations. Everyone says > that fusion crust on irons exists but no one can come up with the proof. > Non-silicate bearing irons DO NOT/CANNOT have FUSION crust: they have a very > fragile magentite micro-crystal "film" and they have an ablation surface > but, they can't by definition have a "fusion crust" and no matter whom the > expert quoted they still do not have a fusion crust. A fusion crust has to > have a silicate source to for the glass component of the crust-- Nada, Nix, > No How. > > Both silicate and non-silicate meteorites have an ablated/ablation surface, > and they can show flight features--but not all meteorites have a fusion > crust. I have some OCs which have flow lines UNDER the fusion crust > remnants. > > If anyone still defends the presence of fusion crust on (non-silicate > bearing) irons then show me the "crust"...can't?..ok show me the glass? > right then-- no photos, no thin sections, no micro graphs???..And while > there was one close up of an ablated surface showing soft wavy lines of > briefly melted metal that was aligned to aerodynamic vectors--This does not > fusion crust make. > > Unlike in politics and public opinion, in science, no matter how often an > untruth is repeated it doesn't become "truth" by majority belief. But > science, being a human endeavor, sometimes can find itself "off track" and > when it does it accepts the error and gets back on track. > > Elton > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/list
Re: [meteorite-list] Info on Sikhote Alin's shrapnel
Darren, I just looked at 119 individual pieces of shrapnel fragments under a microscope. They are rather small and range in size from 30 grams to less than one gram. It looks to me that every one of them shows some feature of melting. many have roll over rims, melted grooves, fusion crust with impact pits, bubbly crust on backside of oriented pieces. I doubt that any of these features were produced by tumbling. Regards, Fred -- Original message -- From: Darren Garrison > > I was under the impression (read it somewhere) that most modern=collected > Sikhote-Alin fragments are rusty and are cleaned in rock tumblers. If so, > could > not that dull/round formerly sharp edges and make them look "melted"? > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Info on Sikhote Alin's shrapnel
List, I have searched many Kilos of SA shrapnel without ever finding ONE without some surface melting. From what I have seen shrapnel is ALL air shredding with subsequent atmospheric frictional melting. Cheers, Fred Olsen -- Original message -- From: > I did not know heat was needed at all to form shrapnel...surely it is just due to shearing of fragments from the dramatic collisions of fragments on impact or during exposive events on the way down that did not leave enough time for > ablation? > > Graham UK > > Maurizio Eltri wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I ask to those who are more experienced > > than me,clarification about Sikhote Alin's > > splinters formation. > > In my opinion there can be two ways to > > justify the origin of the fragments found in > > the vicinity of the largest craters, > > 1) The kinetic energy released at the contact > > surfaces of meteorite/ground was enough to > > melt the frontlayer of the meteorite with > > the subsequent violent expulsion of fragments, > > fused or partially fused. > > 2) Having the meteorites reached the retardation > > point at only 5 km of altitude, they would arrived > > at an impact with their hot surfaces, this would > > facilitate the expulsion of splinters. > > I apologize for my bad English. > > Maurizio Eltri > > > > __ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2009 Witnessed Falls
Mike Jensen @ jensen meteorites keeps an up to date list on his website -- Original message -- From: RJP > Does anyone know where I can find a complete, up to date list of all the witnessed (recovered) falls in 2009 thus far? I believe Roman Jirasek has one > set up, but I can't locate it. (??) > > Ryan > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Richard Norton
Dorothy, I am very saddened by the news of Richards passing. Rocks from Space is my favorite book on meteorites. I have at least 6 copies in my library. I enjoyed meeting and talking meteorites with you and Richard in Tucson several times over the years. I shared his love and appreciation for the study of meteorites in thin sections. He is already and will continue to be Greatly Missed! Warmest Regards, Fred Olsen, Denver __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen Canyon Diablo Meteorite To Be Returned
Mike and List, I spoke to several law enforcement officials in Tucson about any limitations on theft and stolen property. The consensus was that while there may be no criminal liability, the recovery of the stolen property would be settled in a civil court. It would be easy to establish ownership of such a unique meteorite and thus be returned to Meteor Crater. Regards, Fred Olsen -- Original message -- From: Mike Jensen > > Hi Michael > A basket should hold something so it is hard to see how something with > a hole in it would make a good basket. But I guess the problem is > there is another well known ring meteorite from Arizona; > http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2003/August/ad04-tucson.jpg > I guess maybe minnie-me ring might work; > http://blog.oregonlive.com/houseoffame/2008/08/VernTroyerAP.jpg > > Mike > > > Mike Jensen Meteorites > 16730 E Ada PL > Aurora, CO 80017-3137 > USA > 720-949-6220 > IMCA 4264 > website: www.jensenmeteorites.com > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Michael Bross wrote: > > Thanks Mike > > > > Great looking postcards. > > I prefer "Ring" to "Basket"... > > > > Michael B, France > > > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Mike Jensen" > > To: "Frank Cressy" > > Cc: > > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 4:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen Canyon Diablo Meteorite To Be Returned > > > > > > Hi Frank & list > > I just put up a page that shows all of the postcards (4) I have of the > > "Basket" and once referred to as the "Ring" meteorite. Some of the > > postcards mention a weight of 49 pounds and even have the weight > > written on the iron in white (paint?). I wonder if that is still on > > it? > > http://jensenmeteorites.com/Postcards/CanyonDiablo.htm > > > > Mike > > > > > > Mike Jensen Meteorites > > 16730 E Ada PL > > Aurora, CO 80017-3137 > > USA > > 720-949-6220 > > IMCA 4264 > > website: www.jensenmeteorites.com > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Frank Cressy wrote: > >> > >> Hello all, > >> > >> Glad the "basket" meteorite is going home. I remember seeing a post card > >> of it and thinking it was way cool. Maybe Mike Jensen has the post card in > >> his collection. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Frank > >> > >> --- On Wed, 3/11/09, Eric Wichman wrote: > >> > >> From: Eric Wichman > >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Stolen Canyon Diablo Meteorite To Be Returned > >> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 7:16 AM > >> > >> I found article this in my email box this morning... > >> > >> "..This story begins not in a galaxy far away, but at a Milwaukee rummage > >> sale a few years ago. Tom Lynch paid $10 for an odd hunk of metal he > >> figured > >> might be copper or bronze with potential salvage value. > >> > >> He had no idea it had dropped from space into the Arizona desert some > >> 50,000 > >> years ago. > >> > >> "For the last two years, it kept my grandson's basketball hoop from > >> blowing over in the yard. It weighs 50 pounds," said Lynch, a retired > >> foundry and General Motors worker who lives in South Milwaukee. > >> > >> Recently, he saw a show about meteorites on the Travel Channel and > >> realized > >> that's probably what he had. It was curious, he thought, that the thing > >> never oxidized in the weather. Following advice from the TV show, he held > >> a > >> magnet up to the object and it stuck. > >> > >> He took his 4.6 billion-year-old find to the Milwaukee Public Museum and > >> then > >> to Chicago's Field Museum last month. The scientists got excited. Yes, > >> they > >> said, it's a meteorite.." > >> > >> READ THE FULL ARTICLE > >> http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/41069052.html > >> > >> > >> Wow! Now that's a cool looking meteorite. > >> > >> Does anyone on-list remember this piece? > >> > >> Regards, > >> Eric Wichman > >> Meteorites USA > >> > >> > >> __ > >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com > >> Meteorite-list mailing list > >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> > >> __ > >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com > >> Meteorite-list mailing list > >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> > > __ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/lis
[meteorite-list] Elagabalus-Aureus
List, If anyone is wondering what I might like for my next birthday. In just 5 days January 12th Stack's Auction House in Ney York will be selling The Golden Horn Collection. The lot # 2330 is what I would like to unwrap on my birthday or Christmas. I have seen several in silver but a golden meteorite is a sight to behold! Regards, Fred PS starting bid only $15,000 http://www.stacks.com/lotdetail.aspx?lsid=AN0676&asid=&lrid=AN00126253 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Toolbox Meteorites
List, There is another little known toolbox meteorite. Lorenzo, NB was used by the Brauer family as a door stop for over a decade. They knew it was a meteorite but it also had a nice size and shape to hold open an interior door. This information was passed to me by the finders son. Nininger tried to purchase both meteorites (Sidney and Lorenzo) Albert Brauer found while farming in NW Nebraska in the 1930's. Regards, Fred Olsen -- Original message -- From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de > > Steve Arnold #1 writes: > > "There have to be a hundred more examples!" > > Yep, don't forget Korra Korrabes (H3), the largest specimen > of which (24 kg) was used in a garden wall until 2000 August. > > Bernd > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Re: More Meteorite Geography Trivia
Interesting topic. One of my favorite meteorites in my collection is Isla del Espititu Santo. This is a small TKW 869g L6 meteorite from a small island in the Sea of Cortez off the coast from La Paz, Mexico. Regards, Fred Olsen -- Original message -- From: Zelimir Gabelica > > Frank is perfectly right. > > Now, if you take into account the ratio between the weight (kg) and the > island surface area, you can calculate the average number of meteorite kg > thet fell per square km for 3 small islands (there could be more) > > Island surface > (km2) Meteorite tkw kg/km2 (x 10-3) > > Oahu1545Honolulu + P. > Valley3.682 2.38 > Mauritius 1866Mauritius 0.222 > 0.189 > Jamaica 11425 Lucky > Hill 20.4+ 1.79+ > > Now taking 2 small countries (I did not go through all): > > Lesotho 30355 Thuathe 30+ > 0.99 > Swaziland 17363 Dwaleni 3.230 > 0.186 > > In all cases Oahu wins... > > Good going for other weird evaluations! > > Cheers > > Zelimir > > > A 08:45 13/12/2008 -0800, Frank Cressy a écrit : > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > Michael wrote: > > > > > > > 1) Jamaica has one known meteorite, Lucky Hill, an > > > iron IIIAB. What are the chances of a meteorite landing on > > > a relatively small island in the middle of a sea? This > > > meteorite could have easily ended up on the bottom of > > > the Caribbean, but instead it gets to spend it's days > > > in a tropical beach paradise. > > > >I think Hawaii goes one better. Two meteorite falls, > >Honolulu (1825) and Palolo Valley (1949) both fell on Oahu, > >a small island in the much larger Pacific Ocean. Incidently > >both meteorites fell in the capitol of Honolulu only about five miles from > >one another. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Frank > >__ > >http://www.meteoritecentral.com > >Meteorite-list mailing list > >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > Prof. Zelimir Gabelica > Université de Haute Alsace > ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, > 3, Rue A. Werner, > F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France > Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 > Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD- 10th year on ebay Gibeon sale
Dear List, I have listed a nice sculpted gibeon to celebrate 10 years of selling meteorites on ebay. Have a look if interested. Regards Fred Olsen http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220252268544 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fourth-grader Finds Meteorite in Florida?
List, I have a geologist friend who knows meteorites go and see this "hot find" yesterday. As you all would suspect it is NOT a meteorite! Looks like a piece of slag. Regards, Fred Olsen -- Original message -- From: Ron Baalke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > http://www.ocala.com/article/20071118/NEWS/211180344/1368/googlesitemapnews > > Fourth-grader finds meteorite in yard > BY KAREN VOYLES > THE GAINESVILLE SUN (Florida) > November 18, 2007 > > CEDAR KEY - A fourth-grader got a personal, hands-on lesson in > meteorites earlier this week. > > Jeremiah Barnes, 10, was the featured speaker in science classes at > Cedar Key School Friday, where he explained how he saw the meteorite > fall into his yard at the beginning of the week. > > After seeing an object streak into the yard, Jeremiah told high school > classes he initially thought one of his cousins had thrown something > over the fence. After running over to the object and touching it, > Jeremiah said he knew it was something extraordinary. > > "It burned my finger so I ran in the house and got my sister," Jeremiah > said. > > After seeing a blister rise on her brother's index finger, Angel Neese, > a 14-year-old ninth-grader, doused the object with water from the garden > house. Brother and sister watched in fascination as the water being > poured into the shoebox-sized hole made by the object instantly began > boiling. > > "It kind of looked like lava from a volcano, but then I remembered what > we learned in [eighth-grade] science class. And I kind of thought it > would be a meteorite," Angel said. After the object cooled, Angel > pointed out the metals in it to her little brother and explained what > she remembered about objects superheating when they entered the Earth's > atmosphere. > > Jeremiah presented the molten lump to high school science teacher > Richard Whitman, who confirmed it was a meteorite and called the > astronomy department at the University of Florida to try to figure out > the odds of a fourth-grader in the state's smallest public school > actually seeing a meteorite hit the ground. > > "Not a real likely event," Whitman said. "For anyone." > > Jeremiah said he plans to keep the meteorite and is cautious about who > gets to handle his new treasure. After telling his story to the high > school science students, Jeremiah answered questions, then walked from > desk to desk allowing the teenagers to look and touch, but being careful > to make sure it remained over a desk to reduce the risk of an accidental > drop. > > "I want to make sure I have it always, and it doesn't ever get broken," > Jeremiah said. > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Do Meteorites, Music and Humor go together?
Yes they do! Nice job Ruben, Years ago I taught geology in a Florida College and told the students about heat (expanding) and cold (shrinking) and breaking the rocks as a force of weathering. Then I learned of an experiment where they took rocks and put them through thousands of hot/ cold - freeze/ thaw cycles. Guess what? No change without water. Water is the key! just leave your car engine without antifreeze on a freezing night to demonstrate the power of freezing water. I have seen this in the Franconia strewnfield where a granite cobble is fractured into many pieces after thousands of years. It is a conspirecy you know. What happens when a cold front comes through? It often rains first, then it freezes and the meteorites go POP. Keep on Rocking and Rolling! Regards, Fred Olsen, Denver -- Original message -- From: Ruben Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi All, > After about 6 weeks of putting my first meteorite > hunting video on youtube.com I've had well over 20,000 > views (all my videos combined) > > I know from loads of email that I'm receiving daily > that most of my viewers are coming from somewhere > other than this list. > > Most of the emails are from people that know very > little about meteorites or meteorite hunting. > I'm trying to be more entertaining and also more > remedial. > > In this latest video I try to mix, Music and a little > Humor with some very basic meteorite information. > Here it is, > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5rYfIArnvY > > Your comments are welcome! > > Ruben Garcia > Phoenix, Arizona > http://www.mr-meteorite.com > > > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, > news, > photos & more. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Times
Defiantly water, coefficient of expansion liquid to solid >10%. Regards, Fred Olsen -- Original message -- From: "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi List > > Been busy fixing up new and old houses for a move and sale so my getting > around to reading the times got put on a back burner til now. > > Jim Tobin wrote a great article about unclassified meteorites and what some > have gone through. His comments on freeze-thaw are close to the mark I'd > venture, but it's not water is my guess that is causing them to crack. > Rather, I suspect is those veins of impact or heat created substances which > expand at a different rate than the host matrix from which they evolved. It > does get down to freezing temps at night in the barren wastes which have > little to hold daytime heat in. > > What's others think about this and has anyone studied this? > > Mark Ferguson > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Nordlinger Photos
Esteemed List Members, I am trying to put a display together on the Nordlinger-Reis crater for the Mineral Show here in Denver next month. I am looking for two photos for the display. One showing the walled town in the impact crater and another of Gene Shoemaker standing by the church made of impact breccia. Any help will be most appreciated. Regards, Fred Olsen __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rosetta stone
I recall but can't give the exact source that the Allende meteorite was described as the "Rosetta stone" for the solar system. This was maybe twenty or more years ago. Allende my first and still favorite meteorite! Regards, Fred Olsen __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: Re: Kalahari Lunar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Randy and List, Last July Chauncey Walden and I drove all the way around the reported find location of these Kalahari Lunars. This part of the Central Kalahari Nature Reserve (national not private) is not a sandy desert like those far to the north or the Namib to the west. In this location is the ground is almost totally covered in knee high grass and scattered trees. We did not see any igneous rocks in this area in fact there are not many rocks of any type in this area. If I remember correctly it is part of the worlds largest body of sand. So any rock would look odd and stand out. I know it was totally different from what I had envisioned and hoped for. Tough area to hunt meteorites. Much better for photographing lions and cheetah. Regards, Fred Olsen, Denver __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Disko Island pic of day 3/31
Robert and List, Looking at this slice from Disko it seems to show Dendritic Iron crystals, It looks more like dendridic silver. This is something I have never seen in Putorano. Putorano has blebs and blobs. Also I believe that Denmark limits visiting and collecting on Disko. If anyone knows for sure I would appreciate that information. Regards, Fred Olsen, Denver __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Disko Island pic of day 3/31
Dear List, That is an amazing slice of terrestrial Disko Iron. I am not sure if I remember correctly that this material will give a positive test for nickel and was originally thought to be meteoritic. Is it possible to visit Disko Island? Regards, Fred Olsen __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball in a Box
List members, I am rather pleased tonight as I sit here in snowy Colorado. I have in my hands a rock that I first saw streaking across the night sky glowing more brightly than the Sun. My wife and I were returning from a friends birthday party after midnight some nine years ago when we saw a fireball streak low across the southern sky. We spent several days over the next few years searching for this meteorite we were sure must be waiting for us. Two years after the fireball a five year old boy found the first piece and the main mass of the Elbert meteorite. I am fortunate to have obtained a piece of this LL6 fall. I am wondering how many of you have a meteorite that you first saw as a glowing object flying through the sky. I know I feel unbelievably fortunate to have such a piece. I believe that three stones from elbert have been recovered and two of them are in the Denver Museum of Nature and Science. My piece came from the mass recovered by the now 12 year old Dustin Riffel. Regards, Fred Olsen, Denver __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball in a box
List members, I am rather pleased tonight as I sit here in snowy Colorado. I have in my hands a rock that I first saw streaking across the night sky glowing more brightly than the Sun. My wife and I were returning from a friends birthday party after midnight some nine years ago when we saw a fireball streak low across the southern sky. We spent several days over the next few years searching for this meteorite we were sure must be waiting for us. Two years after the fireball a five year old boy found the first piece and the main mass of the Elbert meteorite. I am fortunate to have obtained a piece of this LL6 fall. I am wondering how many of you have a meteorite that you first saw as a glowing object flying through the sky. I know I feel unbelievably fortunate to have such a piece. I believe that three stones from elbert have been recovered and two of them are in the Denver Museum of Nature and Science. My piece came from the mass recovered by the now 12 year old Dustin Riffel. Regards, Fred Olsen, Denver __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Listoids, I am rather pleased tonight as I sit here in snowy Colorado. I have in my hands a rock that I first saw streaking across the night sky glowing brighter than the Sun. My wife and I were returning from a friends birthday party after midnight some nine years ago when we saw a fireball streak low across the southern sky. We spent several days the next years searching for this meteorite we were sure must be waiting for us. Two years after the fireball a five year old boy found the first piece and the main mass of the Elbert meteorite. I am fortunate to have obtained a piece of this LL6 fall. I am wondering how many of you have a meteorite that you saw flying through the sky. I know I feel unbelievably fortunate to have such a piece. Regards, Fred Olsen, Denver __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Listoids, I am rather pleased tonight as I sit here in snowy Colorado. I have in my hands a rock that I first saw streaking across the night sky glowing brighter than the Sun. My wife and I were returning from a friends birthday party after midnight some nine years ago when we saw a fireball streak low across the southern sky. We spent several days the next years searching for this meteorite we were sure must be waiting for us. Two years after the fireball a five year old boy found the first piece and the main mass of the Elbert meteorite. I am fortunate to have obtained a piece of this LL6 fall. I am wondering how many of you have a meteorite that you saw flying through the sky. I know I feel unbelievably fortunate to have such a piece. Regards, Fred Olsen, Denver __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tagounite 018
List, Does anyone know if Tag 018, L4 meteorite was ever officially classified and has a NWA number? Thanks, Fred __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites in Frankfurt
List, I will be in Frankfurt for one day in July and would like to know if there are any meteorite displays in Frankfurt? Regards, Fred Olsen __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
