[meteorite-list] Dave Gheesling

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... Dave, you were such a nice person, so enthusiast and
dynamic, so friendly with everyone 

 

It is so sad that you are already gone.

 

To Dave's family, sincere condolences, all our thoughts are with you 

 

To Dave's friends, we should have a glass all together to honor his
memory next time we meet in Tucson

 

To you Dave, we look forward to seeing you again, thank you for having
crossed our paths, it was fun. throw us all some rocks sometimes !

 

To everybody, life is short, cherish all the one you love right now ! 

 

 

 

Bruno & Carine

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[meteorite-list] Sericho Individuals available in Tucson next week -AD

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Dear List Members,

 

We hope you are all doing well, our very best for 2018 to all of you !

 

Here are the specimens of Sericho individuals we will exhibit next week
in our room HTCC # 307 

 

http://www.meteorite.fr/en/forsale/Sericho.htm 

 

give a visit and say hello to these beauties J 

 

you will be surprised by their price/quality !

 

Sincerely,

 

 

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[meteorite-list] New book on italian meteorites

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Hello

I have finaly end the first work on italian meteorites. For the moment its in 
E-Book format and in italian language, for who want its on sale on Amazon, 
Itunes and other online bookstores

http://www.amazon.com/Meteoriti-Italiane-meteoriti-italiane-Italian-ebook/dp/B010GVNX4W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1435386425&sr=8-1&keywords=matteo+chinellato

Matteo

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Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse recap

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Hi Rob,

Yes, I was marveling at the sudden "appearance" of those close proximity
stars. Here west of Vegas it was a nice night and the skies were clear
with a great view. Definitely was worth burning the midnight oil for...!


Best regards, 
Daniel

Daniel Noyes
Genuine Moon & Mars Meteorite Rocks
i...@moonmarsrocks.com
www.moonmarsrocks.com

 
 
 Original Message 
Subject: Lunar eclipse recap
From: "Matson, Rob D." 
Date: Tue, April 15, 2014 10:54 am
To: "i...@moonmarsrocks.com" , Meteorite list


Hi Daniel,

The show was great from southern California. Even more impressive to me
than the proximity of Mars was how close Spica was to the Moon -- less
than 2 degrees to the right. So close, in fact, that it was hard to
see Spica until the eclipse was well underway. Once the eclipse was
total, I could also see the dim, 5.2-magnitude star HIP 66098 (76
Virginis)
only 0.5 degrees from the upper limb of the Moon.

--Rob

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Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:06 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New ebay listings with fake Moon/ Mars
displays

Hello All,

For those lucky enough to be able to see it, that Lunar eclipse last
night was fantastic, plus the added bonus of a very bright Mars nearby
made even more visible by the darkened sky...WOW!

I have an alert on a couple new ebay listings. Some "steelhorse1994"
fake displays from 2011-2012 are being resold by someone. Unfortunately,
he sold well over a 1000 of these and they will keep cropping up. It's
too bad ebay did not have the spine to retroactively alert everyone he
sold to. I dropped the seller a note but heard nothing back and the
listings are still active at the time of this writing. So, I also
reported it to ebay. Here are the links to the listings: 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOON-ROCK-Lunar-Meteorite-NWA-4881-/261452325481?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cdfc5e269

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MARS-ROCK-A-Pieace-of-The-Mars-Meteorite-NWA-4925-/261452342487?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cdfc624d7

Best regards,
Daniel

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Re: [meteorite-list] New ebay listings with fake Moon/ Mars displays

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Hello All,

For those lucky enough to be able to see it, that Lunar eclipse last
night was fantastic, plus the added bonus of a very bright Mars nearby
made even more visible by the darkened sky...WOW!

I have an alert on a couple new ebay listings. Some "steelhorse1994"
fake displays from 2011-2012 are being resold by someone. Unfortunately,
he sold well over a 1000 of these and they will keep cropping up. It's
too bad ebay did not have the spine to retroactively alert everyone he
sold to. I dropped the seller a note but heard nothing back and the
listings are still active at the time of this writing. So, I also
reported it to ebay. Here are the links to the listings: 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOON-ROCK-Lunar-Meteorite-NWA-4881-/261452325481?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cdfc5e269

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MARS-ROCK-A-Pieace-of-The-Mars-Meteorite-NWA-4925-/261452342487?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cdfc624d7

Best regards,
Daniel

Daniel Noyes
Genuine Moon & Mars Meteorite Rocks
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www.moonmarsrocks.com

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Re: [meteorite-list] steelhorse1994 fake rocks reappear as "Mars dust"

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Hi All,
 
The ebay seller (sorens-stuff) revised their listing 2/10. Their
solution is to remove the incriminating photo of the steelhorse1984 Mars
display from their listing and to keep on selling without indicating the
source of their material so as to cover up the issue. I wrote them again
asking if this was the extent of their "solution". I suspect they would
deny still using the fake material if inquiries were made by ebay. 
 
Best regards,
 
Daniel

Daniel Noyes
Genuine Moon & Mars Meteorite Rocks
i...@moonmarsrocks.com
www.moonmarsrocks.com
 
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Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 22:28:19 -0700
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] steelhorse1994 fake rocks reappear as
"Mars dust"
To: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" 
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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Hello All,

I received a fairly quick response from the seller tonight : "Hi, thank
you for the information! We will look into it asap and take the
appropriate measures! Thank you!"

Words are nice, actions are better! I will keep an eye on the listing,
it is still active at the moment. If need be I will put a call into
ebay. 

Mike is right, their list of items for sale is a virtual land mine of
questionably documented collectibles. Maybe they are just na?ve, but
buying something fake on ebay that claims it is real and then reselling
bits and pieces of it without proper verification does not make it any
more real. It is probably just fortuitous that their current Moon dust
offering is derived from a legitimate meteorite kit. 

Best regards,
Daniel

Daniel Noyes
Genuine Moon & Mars Meteorite Rocks
i...@moonmarsrocks.com
www.moonmarsrocks.com



 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] steelhorse1994 fake rocks reappear as
"Mars dust"
From: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" 
Date: Sat, February 08, 2014 3:49 pm
To: i...@moonmarsrocks.com
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Thanks for the heads-up Daniel! :)

This same seller is selling a wide variety of odd and rare artifacts.
This makes me question the authenticity of everything he offers.
Pieces of the Hindenberg? Metal from Apollo 11. Etc. If he's this
careless with his meteorite sources, then I wouldn't trust any of it.

Best regards,

MikeG


On 2/8/14, i...@moonmarsrocks.com  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We have a listing on ebay selling "Mars dust specks" that are made from
> pieces of the fake rocks out of the old displays of steelhorse1994:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260853112578#ht_1544wt_853
> The second photo in the listing shows the unmistakable steelhorse1994
> display.
>
> I wrote the guy and informed him of the problem and suggested he stop
> selling them and recall the ones he has sold. Apparently this seller
> buys displays from various sources and breaks the rocks up into
> microscopic tiny dust pieces(dust is right, you can barely see them) and
> then resells them. He also has a current listing for Moon dust specks
> but those are derived from a legitimate source. I don't know if he has
> previously sold Moon specks that were from fake displays as well.
> Steelhorse1994 is like a bad coin that keeps popping up.
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel
>
> Daniel Noyes
> Genuine Moon & Mars Meteorite Rocks
> i...@moonmarsrocks.com
> www.moonmarsrocks.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] steelhorse1994 fake rocks reappear as "Mars dust"

[info]

Hello All,
 
I received a fairly quick response from the seller tonight : "Hi, thank
you for the information! We will look into it asap and take the
appropriate measures! Thank you!"
 
Words are nice, actions are better! I will keep an eye on the listing,
it is still active at the moment. If need be I will put a call into
ebay. 

Mike is right, their list of items for sale is a virtual land mine of
questionably documented collectibles. Maybe they are just naïve, but
buying something fake on ebay that claims it is real and then reselling
bits and pieces of it without proper verification does not make it any
more real. It is probably just fortuitous that their current Moon dust
offering is derived from a legitimate meteorite kit.  
 
Best regards,
Daniel

Daniel Noyes
Genuine Moon & Mars Meteorite Rocks
i...@moonmarsrocks.com
www.moonmarsrocks.com

 
 
 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] steelhorse1994 fake rocks reappear as
"Mars dust"
From: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" 
Date: Sat, February 08, 2014 3:49 pm
To: i...@moonmarsrocks.com
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Thanks for the heads-up Daniel! :)

This same seller is selling a wide variety of odd and rare artifacts.
This makes me question the authenticity of everything he offers.
Pieces of the Hindenberg? Metal from Apollo 11. Etc. If he's this
careless with his meteorite sources, then I wouldn't trust any of it.

Best regards,

MikeG


On 2/8/14, i...@moonmarsrocks.com  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We have a listing on ebay selling "Mars dust specks" that are made from
> pieces of the fake rocks out of the old displays of steelhorse1994:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260853112578#ht_1544wt_853
> The second photo in the listing shows the unmistakable steelhorse1994
> display.
>
> I wrote the guy and informed him of the problem and suggested he stop
> selling them and recall the ones he has sold. Apparently this seller
> buys displays from various sources and breaks the rocks up into
> microscopic tiny dust pieces(dust is right, you can barely see them) and
> then resells them. He also has a current listing for Moon dust specks
> but those are derived from a legitimate source. I don't know if he has
> previously sold Moon specks that were from fake displays as well.
> Steelhorse1994 is like a bad coin that keeps popping up.
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel
>
> Daniel Noyes
> Genuine Moon & Mars Meteorite Rocks
> i...@moonmarsrocks.com
> www.moonmarsrocks.com
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[meteorite-list] steelhorse1994 fake rocks reappear as "Mars dust"

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Hello all,

We have a listing on ebay selling "Mars dust specks" that are made from
pieces of the fake rocks out of the old displays of steelhorse1994:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260853112578#ht_1544wt_853
The second photo in the listing shows the unmistakable steelhorse1994
display.

I wrote the guy and informed him of the problem and suggested he stop
selling them and recall the ones he has sold. Apparently this seller
buys displays from various sources and breaks the rocks up into
microscopic tiny dust pieces(dust is right, you can barely see them) and
then resells them. He also has a current listing for Moon dust specks
but those are derived from a legitimate source. I don't know if he has
previously sold Moon specks that were from fake displays as well.
Steelhorse1994 is like a bad coin that keeps popping up.

Best regards,
Daniel

Daniel Noyes
Genuine Moon & Mars Meteorite Rocks
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Re: [meteorite-list] Bogus Lunar on Ebay

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Yes, that is indeed the name on the Facebook entry.

Best regards,
Daniel

Daniel Noyes
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i...@moonmarsrocks.com
www.moonmarsrocks.com

 
 
 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bogus Lunar on Ebay
From: Anne Black 
Date: Sun, January 26, 2014 3:43 pm
To: i...@moonmarsrocks.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

I wonder if his name is Goran Lindfors.
(check the archives of the MetList)


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


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Sent: Sun, Jan 26, 2014 2:02 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bogus Lunar on Ebay


Hello All,

We have a new bogus Lunar listing on EBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111264325743

A 7 gram Swedish knock-off SWE2003, imagine that! With an auction
starting at $1060 but no bids so far. I wrote the person seriously
questioning the listing, his credentials, and why there is no such
record of its classification on the Met. Bulletin. I also reported it to
ebay. Hopefully no one will buy it and when the auction ends it will be
the last we see of it. But seeing him also brag about it and a whole
"collection" of these on Facebook makes me think he'll be back looking
for a sucker: https://www.facebook.com/NASA.Commune?filter=2

Best regards,

Daniel

Daniel Noyes
Genuine Moon & Mars Meteorite Rocks
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Re: [meteorite-list] Bogus Lunar on Ebay

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Hello All,

We have a new bogus Lunar listing on EBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111264325743

A 7 gram Swedish knock-off SWE2003, imagine that! With an auction
starting at $1060 but no bids so far. I wrote the person seriously
questioning the listing, his credentials, and why there is no such
record of its classification on the Met. Bulletin. I also reported it to
ebay. Hopefully no one will buy it and when the auction ends it will be
the last we see of it. But seeing him also brag about it and a whole
"collection" of these on Facebook makes me think he'll be back looking
for a sucker: https://www.facebook.com/NASA.Commune?filter=2

Best regards,

Daniel

Daniel Noyes
Genuine Moon & Mars Meteorite Rocks
i...@moonmarsrocks.com
www.moonmarsrocks.com

 
 
 
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[meteorite-list] Another ebay scammer

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Just spotted these new listings in ebay under a search for Moon rocks: a
guy selling "PKG TEKTITE MAGIC MOON ROCKS". Here is a link to one of the
listings:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PKG-TEKTITE-MAGIC-MOON-ROCKS-outer-space-healing-stones-NOVELTY-BLACK-ROCK-NEW-/330941685693?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d0da95fbd.
There are several listings with different quantities being sold. 

These are certainly not Moon rocks! Tektites? I doubt it, the experts
can chime in. Healing stones? oh please! I wrote the guy but do not
expect an answer based on some of his listed negative feedback. Here's
an example: "rabbits feet are infested with fleas and chains are rusted,
the seller won't contact me". 

Another case of a scamming ebay seller trying to mislead the naïve
buyer that they are getting Moon rocks in the title, but cleverly does
not mention Moon rocks in the actual description. But he does go on
about tektites. I already reported all his listings to ebay with regards
to the Moon rock fraud. Some of you who have the expertise on tektites
may want to join in and do the same on that topic so ebay will be
compelled to ask him to either reword or remove his listings. I used:
report item link on the bottom right of the listing and then in the
popup menu: listing practices; compilation and informational items;
misleading or excessive keywords; then in the short description you can
add your two cents. 

On the bright side, I hope everyone is having a fantastic Holiday
Season!

Best regards,
Daniel 

Daniel Noyes
Genuine Moon & Mars Meteorite Rocks
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[meteorite-list] meteoriteman ??? Ebay + AD

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Hi All,

As a segue to "meteoriteman" on ebay...for those interested in Meteorman
on ebay, one of the items I sell on ebay is my original drawing,
Meteorman, a limited edition superhero art display installed with a moon
rock. 
All my offerings can be viewed here: http://www.ebay.com/usr/danovanni

Hope everyone is having a nice Autumn.

Best regards,

Daniel   

Daniel Noyes
Genuine Moon & Mars Meteorite Rocks
i...@moonmarsrocks.com
www.moonmarsrocks.com


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Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 09:37:52 -0700
From: Jim Wooddell 
Subject: [meteorite-list] meteoriteman ??? Ebay
To: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com"

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Good Morning!

Anyone know who meteoriteman is on Ebay? I am looking to contact this 
person!

Thanks!

Jim

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[meteorite-list] Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Made From Meteorites

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Hello All,
 
There were several articles out today on this topic. This one from
Popular Science had a more detailed explanation, including a link to the
Wikipedia page on Widmanstätten patterns, and a nice picture of some of
the Egyptian bead artifacts:
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-08/confirmed-egyptian-jewelry-came-meteorites.
 
Best regards,
Daniel
 
Daniel Noyes
Genuine Moon & Mars Meteorite Rocks
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ebay: danovanni
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[meteorite-list] Update: Fake Ebay Displays

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Hello All,

It has been about a year since the ebay seller of the fake Moon & Mars
displays was stopped by Ebay from listing his items. They do get some
things right, though I wish they had a policy where they informed all
his past buyers. I am happy to report that since then he has not
attempted to list fakes again under the name steelhorse1994 or any other
username. Last year there were several instances where someone who
bought from him tried to resell the items on ebay, and those were
thwarted by myself or other keen eyes in the community who reported such
to ebay. 

Here's to a great summer of hunting and collecting!

Best regards,

Daniel

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Genuine Moon & Mars Meteorite Rocks
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ebay: danovanni

 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New photos of Mercury

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Some new pics of Mercury, compliments of NASA's Messenger spacecraft,
nice: 
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/nasa-spacecraft-photographs-mercury-slideshow/

With all those craters, one would think there is a good amount of
Mercury rock floating around, and that there's a reasonable probability
that some of it has made its way to Earth. It will be interesting to see
if the continuing analysis of the possible candidate NWA 7325, with its
stunning green color, proves to be just so...

Best regards,
Daniel

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Genuine Moon & Mars Meteorite Rocks
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ebay: danovanni

 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid Hits Earth! How the Doomsday Scenario Would Play Out

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Right on, Adam. 
If only we could get some Tribbles. They'd be great for those moments
when a jerk cuts me off at highway speed in traffic, when the post
office unbelievably crushes one of my customer's packages, or when my
spouse occassionally goes into her dr. jekyll and mr. hyde act. Though,
I'd be torn about getting rid of my secret stash of quadrotriticale...

Best,
Daniel 

Daniel Noyes
Genuine Moon & Mars Meteorite Rocks
i...@moonmarsrocks.com
www.moonmarsrocks.com
ebay: danovanni

 
 
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 07:08:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Adam Hupe 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 
Asteroid Hits Earth! How the Doomsday Scenario Would Play
To: Adam 
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1


I want to be part of the "The Committee to Save the Planet"? As far as I
know, the Earth is the only planet that still serves cold beer and where
you can get a decent hamburger.

Adam


The Committee to Save the Planet: Who Watches the 
Asteroids? by Nina Burleigh, Time, February 12, 2013??? 
http://world.time.com/2013/02/12/the-committee-to-save-the-planet-who-watches-the-asteroids/


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Re: [meteorite-list] artistic meteorite "rebirth" & AD

[info]

The artist in me appreciates the creative process she is pursuing, but
the scientist in me totally cringes that she used (destroyed) the
meteorite itself as her medium and completely transformed the meteorite
into something else: a metal sculpture. She could have done the same
thing with the silicon mold by pouring plain ole molten metal and
preserved the meteorite intact. In the end, I would choose the universe
created version.

For a less invasive original meteorite art display, check out my new
Meteorman pen&ink/color drawing with a lunar rock fragment
embellishment, listed on ebay:  
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130841063543?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

Best regards,

Daniel

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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 22:19:24 -0800
From: Doug Ross 
Subject: [meteorite-list] artistic meteorite "rebirth"
To: Meteorite List List 
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Thought you all might find this conceptual art project interesting:

http://vimeo.com/46536435

Seems like a shame to me that she chose a naturally beautiful specimen
with which to do this. If it was a rusty hunk of shrapnel to begin with,
somehow I wouldn't feel so bad. But I did get a chuckle out of seeing
her marvel over fresh saw marks.

BTW, I'm in the market for a large Campo for myselfbut not the one
in the video, please! Contact me off list with any offers.

Doug Ross
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Re: [meteorite-list] The controversy about 'Allah's Tear'

[info]

Life mimics fiction...

"Raiders of the Lost Meteorite", Working Script page 199.

Fade in.
Scene 49, Backroom government building.
Government Official A: "Gentlemen, we trust the compensation was
adequate."
Meteorite Hunter A: "No, it certainly was not!"
Meteorite Hunter B: "Where's the Stone? Where's the g** d*** stone! It
has incredible scientific value and must be studied properly."
Government Official B: "We have top men working on it."
Meteorite Hunter A: "What men?!"
Government Official B: "TOP men, Dr., TOP men..."
Fade out.

Fade in.
Scene 50, Dimly lit government warehouse in the middle of nowhere...
Several non-descript men in overalls are seen wheeling the giant iron
meteorite on a squeaky rail cart amoungst rows and rows of unmarked
crates, statues, and assorted rocks covered in layers of dust. 
Fade to black...

Cue theme music and credits. 

Best,

Daniel

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 06:50:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Adam Hupe 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The controversy about 'Allah's Tear'
(the Altay Meteorite)
To: Adam 
Message-ID:
<1360075855.94944.yahoomail...@web122001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Sounds like the Chinese version of the U.S. Old Woman find.? Government
takes possession of it because they can and then it is all over for the
finders.? Offer them a tiny reward for a major find, let them decline
and then give them nothing but grief.? In other words, make up the laws
as you go without the citizens input.

History has a way of repeating itself.

I wonder what kind of reward the Smithsonian will offer for the first
American Lunar find when they take possession of it, perhaps $100.00, a
cup of coffee and a sausage?

Happy and Productive Hunting,

Adam



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From: karmaka 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The controversy about 'Allah's Tear' (the
Altay Meteorite)

Dear list members,

here is another article on the issue:

Ownership of meteorite remains controversial

http://www.china.org.cn/china/2013-02/05/content_27889755.htm

I wonder how this story will turn out

Martin



Von: "karmaka" 
An: "met-list" 
Betreff: [meteorite-list] The controversy about 'Allah's Tear' (the
Altay Meteorite)
Datum: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 15:44:12 +0100

The controversy about 'Allah's Tear' (the Altay Meteorite)

Original: http://news.sina.com.cn/c/sd/2013-02-01/121926177622.shtml

translation:
http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.sina.com.cn%2Fc%2Fsd%2F2013-02-01%2F121926177622.shtml

Martin



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[meteorite-list] Asteroid mining

[info]

Interesting infographic about asteroid mining:
http://www.space.com/15391-asteroid-mining-space-planetary-resources-infographic.html

Meteorite studies demonstrating Pd & Pt content have these companies all
excited about the potential of mining asteroids.  
 
Best,
Daniel

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[meteorite-list] Fly to the Moon for $750M

[info]

A new venture capital business, Golden Spike, is developing plans to
commercially send wannabe astronauts to the Moon surface by the 2020's.

You could subsidize the trip by filling a couple suitcases with Moon
rocks and selling them for a premium. Then again, one can only image the
kind of mega "import" tax the government would put on that! 

Happy Holidays everyone...

Daniel

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[meteorite-list] Martian mystery to be revealed

[info]

There's a big buzz about some history-making news from NASA’s
Curiosity rover. Speculation is focused on the discovery of organic
molecules, but the space agency’s scientists are keeping quiet about
the details until they recheck the data. The mystery will be revealed at
a press conference during the 2012 American Geophysical Union meeting in
San Francisco from Dec. 3 to 7.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/11/curiosity-historic-news-organics/

Happy Thanksgiving!

Daniel
 
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[meteorite-list] Orphan planet

[info]

Interesting news clip about a newly discovered orphan planet (not
gravitationally tethered to any star/solar system). Brings to mind the
premise for the sci-fi classic When Worlds Collide...no worries, this
one is 130 light years away.

http://news.yahoo.com/meet-starless-planet-floats-alone-00243.html

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Daniel

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Re: [meteorite-list] the world of eBay

[info]

I, for one, am grateful that Adam still auctions on ebay. He is a great
ebay seller in all aspects! Selling on eBay is definitely a pain at
times, but the proportion of those sales relative to ones direct from my
site make it necessary. Being able to consistently obtain authentic
material from Adam's Planetary Collection at a reasonable price and then
reselling nice sized fragments in my art displays on eBay for a small
profit on each has helped our family make ends meet each month here in
hard hit Nevada. 
So, thank you Adam, the many new "meteorite friends" I have made this
year, and any of you who may have bought from me.

Best regards, 

Daniel

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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 15:33:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Adam Hupe 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA SETI Misappropriation of Tax Payer
Funds
To: Adam 
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

I like the auction style format where the buyer determines the market
price is the only reason I have stuck to eBay thus far.? It used to be a
self-supporting hobby that has turned into an expensive one, at least
for me.

All of these new eBay customer service rules have tied me down making
travel nearly impossible.? I wish it was like it was five years ago when
you could sell something on eBay for a fair price, make a reasonable
profit and travel at the same time.

I cannot stand regulations and eBay has too many new rules that only
serve to make a seller work twice as hard.

Take Care,

Adam
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[meteorite-list] Spiders from Mars

[info]

Fascinating new photos from Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter that show
strange black spidery objects. 
"Oooh yeah, Ziggy played guitar..."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/spidery-black-objects-mars-surface-raise-speculation-184239849.html

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[meteorite-list] Article on Dar al Gani 1058 auction

[info]

Came across this article on the pending auction of Lunar meteorite Dar
al Gani 1058. 

http://news.yahoo.com/largest-moon-rock-ever-auctioned-could-fetch-380-185700660.html

They talk about its large size, though it pales in comparison to NWA
5000 than Adam just announced he is putting up for direct sale.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Dawn Journal

[info]

Thanks, Ron, for sharing Dr.Rayman's eloquent journal log. 
Looking forward to Dawn's next adventure at Ceres, including spectral
analysis that might shed light on whether there are Ceres-derived
meteorites here on Earth.  
 
Best,
Daniel

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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 15:14:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ron Baalke 
Subject: [meteorite-list] Dawn Journal - September 5, 2012
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http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/journal_09_05_12.asp

Dawn Journal
Dr. Marc Rayman
September 5, 2012

Dear Marvestalous Readers,

An interplanetary spaceship left Earth in 2007. Propelling itself 
gently and patiently through the solar system with a blue-green 
beam of xenon ions, it gradually spiraled away from the sun. It sailed 
past Mars in 2009, its sights set on more distant and exotic 
destinations. In July 2011, it gracefully and elegantly entered orbit
around the second most massive resident of the main asteroid belt,
Vesta. It spent more than 13 months there scrutinizing the gigantic
protoplanet with all of its sensors and maneuvering to different orbits
to optimize its investigations, making myriad marvelous discoveries. 
After they traveled together around the sun for 685 million kilometers 
(426 million miles), the ship left orbit in September 2012 and is now 
headed for dwarf planet Ceres, the largest body between the sun and 
Neptune not yet visited by a spacecraft. No other probe has ever been 
capable of the amazing feats Dawn is performing, exploring two of the 
largest uncharted worlds in the inner solar system.

The population of the main asteroid belt numbers in the millions. Vesta
is such a behemoth that Dawn has now single-handedly examined about
eight percent of the mass of the entire belt. And by the time it
finishes 
at the colossus Ceres, it will have investigated around 40 percent.

The expedition to Vesta has produced riches beyond everyone's hopes.
With 31,000 photos, 20 million visible and infrared spectra, and
thousands 
of hours of neutron spectra, gamma ray spectra, and gravity
measurements,
Dawn has revealed to humankind a unique and fascinating member of the 
solar system family. More akin to Earth and the other terrestrial
planets 
than to typical asteroids, Vesta is not just another chunk of rock. It 
displays complex geology and even has a dense iron-nickel core, a
mantle, 
and a crust. Its heavily cratered northern hemisphere tells the story of

more than 4.5 billion years of battering in the rough and tumble
asteroid 
belt. Its southern hemisphere was wiped clean, resurfaced by an enormous

impact at least two billion years ago and an even greater collision one 
billion years ago. These events excavated the 400-kilometer (250-mile) 
Veneneia and 500-kilometer (310-mile) Rheasilvia basins. The larger
basin 
has a mountain at the center that towers more than twice the height of 
Mt. Everest; indeed, it soars higher than all but one of the mountains 
known in the solar system. The impacts were so forceful, they nearly 
destroyed Vesta. The fierce shock reverberated through the entire body 
and left as scars an extraordinary network of vast troughs near the 
equator, some hundreds of kilometers (miles) long and 15 kilometers 
(10 miles) wide.

The powerful impacts liberated tremendous amounts of material, flinging
rocks far out into space, some of which eventually made it all the way
to Earth. It is astonishing that about six percent of the meteorites
found here came from Vesta. We have some meteorites from Mars, and we
have some meteorites from the moon, but we have far, far more that
originated in those impacts at Vesta, so distant in time and space.
Vesta, Mars, and the moon are the only celestial bodies identified as
the source of specific meteorites.

Scientists will spend years productively poring through Dawn's fabulous
findings and learning what secrets they hold about the dawn of the solar
system, and many more people will continue to marvel at the spectacular
sights of this alien world. But the emissary from Earth has completed
its assignment there and moved on. It has spent most of its time since
the previous log using its ion propulsion system to climb higher and 
higher above Vesta. This departure spiral is the mirror image of the 
approach spiral the robotic adventurer followed last year. The unique 
method of entering and leaving orbit is one of the many intriguing 
characteristics of a mission that uses ion propulsion. Without that 
advanced technology, this ambitious deep space adventure would be 
impossible.

As Dawn ascended, Vesta's gravitational grip grew weaker and weaker. At
some point along its spiral, the explorer was far enough and moving fast
enough that Vesta could no longer hold it in orbit. As smoothly and
tenderly as Vesta had taken 

[meteorite-list] Does Curiosity dream of electric sheep?

[info]

Hi List,

Nice detailed 3-D picture of Gale Crater and an interesting article on
Curiosity's "dream mode":
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/08/15/mars-rover-curiosity-has-dreams-on-red-planet-1593330690/

Best,
Daniel

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Re: [meteorite-list] NASA's Curiosity Rover Caught in the Act ofLanding & (AD)

[info]

Hi All,

Wow, how incredible is that photo with the parachute! The Mars Science
Laboratory Mission has been flawless. I look forward to the exciting new
developments as Curiosity explores Gale Crater. Thanks Ron, for all the
updates.

For those interested, I have on-going Ebay auctions each week of my
collectible Martian meteorite displays with several featuring the now
famous Curiosity, including a 2-pack combo offer with the popular Apollo
Lunar rover meteorite display. All my displays feature rocks prepared
exclusively from specimens of the Hupe Planetary Collection. 
http://www.ebay.com/sch/danovanni/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686

Best,
Daniel Noyes

  

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Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:53:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ron Baalke 
Subject: [meteorite-list] NASA's Curiosity Rover Caught in the Act of
Landing
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http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2012-232 

NASA's Curiosity Rover Caught in the Act of Landing
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
August 06, 2012

PASADENA, Calif. - An image from the High Resolution Imaging Science
Experiment (HiRISE) camera aboard NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter
captured the Curiosity rover still connected to its 51-foot-wide (almost
16 meter) parachute as it descended towards its landing site at Gale
Crater.

"If HiRISE took the image one second before or one second after, we
probably would be looking at an empty Martian landscape," said Sarah
Milkovich, HiRISE investigation scientist at NASA's Jet Propulsion
Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. "When you consider that we have been
working on this sequence since March and had to upload commands to the
spacecraft about 72 hours prior to the image being taken, you begin to
realize how challenging this picture was to obtain."

The image of Curiosity on its parachute can be found at:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/multimedia/pia15978b.html

The image was taken while MRO was 211 miles (340 kilometers) away from
the parachuting rover. Curiosity and its rocket-propelled backpack,
contained within the conical-shaped back shell, had yet to be deployed.
At the time, Curiosity was about two miles (three kilometers) above the
Martian surface.

"Guess you could consider us the closest thing to paparazzi on Mars,"
said Milkovich. "We definitely caught NASA's newest celebrity in the
act."

Curiosity, NASA's latest contribution to the Martian landscape, landed
at 10:32 p.m. Aug. 5, PDT, (1:32 on Aug. 6, EDT) near the foot of a
mountain three miles tall inside Gale Crater, 96 miles in diameter.

In other Curiosity news, one part of the rover team at the JPL continues
to analyze the data from last night's landing while another continues to
prepare the one-ton mobile laboratory for its future explorations of
Gale Crater. One key assignment given to Curiosity for its first full
day on Mars is to raise its high-gain antenna. Using this antenna will
increase the data rate at which the rover can communicate directly with
Earth. The mission will use relays to orbiters as the primary method for
sending data home, because that method is much more energy-efficient for
the rover.

Curiosity carries 10 science instruments with a total mass 15 times as
large as the science payloads on the Mars rovers Spirit and Opportunity.
Some of the tools are the first of their kind on Mars, such as a
laser-firing instrument for checking rocks' elemental composition from a
distance. Later in the mission, the rover will use a drill and scoop at
the end of its robotic arm to gather soil and powdered samples of rock
interiors, then sieve and parcel out these samples into analytical
laboratory instruments inside the rover.

To handle this science toolkit, Curiosity is twice as long and five
times as heavy as Spirit or Opportunity. The Gale Crater landing site
places the rover within driving distance to layers of the crater's
interior mountain. Observations from orbit have identified clay and
sulfate minerals in the lower layers, indicating a wet history.

The mission is managed by JPL for NASA's Science Mission Directorate in
Washington. The rover was designed, developed and assembled at JPL.

For more information on the mission, visit http://www.nasa.gov/mars and
http://marsprogram.jpl.nasa.gov/msl

Follow the mission on Facebook and Twitter at
http://www.facebook.com/marscuriosity,
http://www.twitter.com/marscuriosity

HiRISE is operated by the University of Arizona, Tucson. The instrument
was built by Ball Aerospace & Technologies Corp., Boulder, Colo. The
Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Project and the Mars Exploration Rover
Project are managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena,
Calif., for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. JPL is a
division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. Lockheed
Martin Space Systems, De

Re: [meteorite-list] Arsenic Bacteria

[info]

Hoax may have been a strong word, Phil, because it implies motive, but
you are right-on to flag it nonetheless. Sloppy and overzealous would be
the words that come to my mind. As a scientist, I was trained to be
neither. Clearly, they made a mistake, or overlooked something. That's
why you seek out collaboration. Of course they knew it would cause a
stir when they published it. They wanted to be the first to show such.
Egos. Unfortunately, it was very premature for them to jump out and make
a claim with such dramatic and sweeping implications without first
waiting for independent confirmation. The good news is, in the end the
subject was clarified by subsequent research. 

This is why the recent Higgs Boson announcement was the result of two
completely independent teams coming to the same conclusion after very
extensive research. By the way, the media has in my mind been only
somewhat successful in explaning for lay people what the HB particle
discovery is and means. Here's my most simplified version of it for the
non-theoretical physical scientists (mostly everybody): the Higgs Boson
particle is what correlates energy to matter, it makes the = in the
E=MC*2 equation possible

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Daniel

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Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 23:17:59 -0400
From: "JoshuaTreeMuseum" 
Subject: [meteorite-list] Arsenic Bacteria Hoax
To: 
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reply-type=original

This current news story is as unfortunate as the original NASA story
spin of 
Wolf-Simon's article release two years ago. Hoax implies a deliberate 
fabrication of evidence. There's no call here to insult the personal 
integrity of the scientists for publishing their earlier experimental 
observations on the Mono Lake arsenic tolerant bacteria. Also never 
concluded in the original experiments would be that arsenate could 
completely replace phophate, just that it might have been substituted
for 
less than one percent of phosphorus at a cost. They weren't looking for
any 
kind of attention themselves to create this a publicity stunt. Just over

zealot news media spun into action by an interesting preliminary report.

Looking forward to reading the actual article when available and new
studies 
to follow.


Howard,

You're right, calling it a hoax may have been overstating my opinion.
But it 
was definitely a publicity stunt. If you claim to have discovered a 
completely new life form, unknown to science and possibly of alien
origin, 
it's just good manners to wait until it's independently confirmed. They 
jumped the gun with their premature announcement. As if they didn't know

that it would create a lot of hoopla and possibly mislead a lot of
people! I 
don't know what their exact motives were, but announcing that you've
found a 
living DNA chain with arsenic replacing phosphorus compounds before it's

been confirmed seems a little hoaxy to me. I'm no scientist, but I'm
still 
annoyed by that whole cold fusion thing.

Phil Whitmer
Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum



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Re: [meteorite-list] Arsenic Bacteria Hoax

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Interesting article, Phil. 

It's always good to see that given a little time, collaborative science
works things out. Having a couple Biology degrees myself, I would have
been floored if it had been verified that the bacteria substituted
arsenic for phosporus in its DNA. It will be interesting to see if they
determine in follow up studies what the actual mechanism is by which the
bacteria mitigates the presence of the arsenic in its environment. As
the article mentions, due to their relative simple makeup, some bacteria
have the ability to adapt and survive in very inhospitable Earth
enviroments. There have been some inklings of it (nanobacteria of Allan
Hills 84001), but someday I think we will likely see broadly agreed upon
hard evidence for them in many non-terrestrial environments. 

Best,

Daniel

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Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 00:06:11 -0400
From: "JoshuaTreeMuseum" 
Subject: [meteorite-list] Arsenic Bacteria Hoax
To: 
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Turns out it was a bogus publicity stunt:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/journal-retreats-from-controversial-arsenic-paper/2012/07/08/gJQAFQb7WW_story.html?hpid=z3

Journal retreats from controversial arsenic paper



By Marc Kaufman, Updated: Sunday, July 8, 10:05 PMThe Washington Post
Two new studies of controversial research on a bacterium found in
California's 
arsenic-rich Mono Lake led the journal Science on Sunday to say that the

2010 paper it published on the microbe was incorrect in some of its
major 
findings.
The original research, which also had been highlighted by NASA, reported

that the bacterium could live in an environment with very high arsenic
and 
very low phosphorus - one of the six elements known to be present in all

living things. It consequently raised the possibility of life forms now
or 
previously on Earth that break what had been accepted as a universal
rule of 
biology.

But two new studies of the bacterium, GFAJ-1, reported that it could not

grow without the presence of phosphorus. The ?papers also challenged the

original finding that small amounts of arsenic compounds had replaced 
phosphorus compounds in some DNA, membranes and other biologically
central 
parts of the organism.
"Contrary to an original report, the new research clearly shows that the

bacterium, GFAJ-1, cannot substitute arsenic for phosphorus to survive,"
the 
journal concluded in a formal statement.
"The new research shows that GFAJ-1 does not break the long-held rules
of 
life, contrary to how [lead author Felisa] Wolfe-Simon had interpreted
her 
group's data."
Nonetheless, Science wrote that it would look with interest at further 
research regarding the bacterium, which it called "an extraordinarily 
resistant organism that should be of interest for further study, 
particularly related to arsenic-tolerance mechanisms."
Wolfe-Simon, now on a NASA fellowship at the Lawrence Berkeley National 
Laboratory, is collaborating with senior scientist John A. Tainer on 
wide-ranging studies of the bacterium. In an interview Saturday,
Wolfe-Simon 
and Tainer said that they had produced tentative results in the Berkeley
lab 
almost identical to the original results at a U.S. Geological Survey 
laboratory, and that they were busy finishing the research and preparing

another paper.
Tainer said the two new studies in Science may have come to different 
results than theirs because of the methodologies used, the precision
used to 
detect arsenates and the provenance of the cells. He said the authors of
the 
two new papers "may well regret some of their statements" in the future.
"There are many reasons not to find things - I don't find my keys some 
mornings," he said. "That doesn't mean they don't exist. The absence of
a 
finding is not definitive."
Wolfe-Simon and her numerous collaborators had made samples of GFAJ-1 
broadly available after her initial results caused a storm of
controversy, 
but she and Tainer said they may have been contaminated or modified in 
transit.
She said that all the researchers agreed that the bacterium survived in 
extraordinarily high levels of usually toxic arsenic compounds but that
they 
disagreed about whether the organism used the arsenic compound to grow
and 
whether it had incorporated the arsenic into its biology.
"I think it's unclear whether this is the last word," ?Wolfe-Simon said.

"They're not finding something that could be there in a minor amount."
One of the new studies in Science was conducted by a team centered at 
Princeton University that included Rosemary Redfield of the University
of 
British Columbia. She was one of the first and most vocal critics of the

original Wolfe-Simon paper, and she said Sunday she was satisfied with
how 
the process has played out.

[meteorite-list] Allende meteorite yields material previously unknown to science

[info]

Hi all,

Interesting news reported today from Caltech regarding research on the
1969 Allende meteorite:

"Scientists have discovered a new mineral embedded in a meteorite that
fell to Earth over 40 years ago, and it could be among the oldest
minerals, formed in the early days of our solar system. The mineral is a
type of titanium oxide and has been named panguite, after Pan Gu, the
giant from ancient Chinese mythology who established the world by
separating yin from yang to create the Earth and the sky."

Full article is here:
http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0627/1969-meteorite-yields-material-previously-unknown-to-science


Best regards,
Daniel

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Re: [meteorite-list] NASA Space Launch System Core Stage MovesFrom Concept to Design

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Wow, that's really exciting. I love reading about all the latest space
exploration/NASA developments. Thanks Ron, for all the great updates you
provide!
 
Daniel

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 14:31:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ron Baalke 
Subject: [meteorite-list] NASA Space Launch System Core Stage Moves
>From Concept to Design
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June 21, 2012

Trent J. Perrotto 
Headquarters, Washington 
202-358-0321 
trent.j.perro...@nasa.gov 

Jennifer Stanfield 
Marshall Space Flight Center, Huntsville, Ala. 
256-544-0034 
jennifer.m.stanfi...@nasa.gov 

RELEASE: 12-211

NASA SPACE LAUNCH SYSTEM CORE STAGE MOVES FROM CONCEPT TO DESIGN

HUNTSVILLE, Ala. -- The nation's space exploration program is taking a 
critical step forward with a successful major technical review of the 
core stage of the Space Launch System (SLS), the rocket that will 
take astronauts farther into space than ever before. 

The core stage is the heart of the heavy-lift launch vehicle. It will 
stand more than 200 feet (61 meters) tall with a diameter of 27.5 
feet (8.4 meters). 

NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala., hosted a 
comprehensive review. Engineers from NASA and The Boeing Co. of 
Huntsville presented a full set of system requirements, design 
concepts and production approaches to technical reviewers and the 
independent review board. 

"This meeting validates our design requirements for the core stage of 
the nation's heavy-lift rocket and is the first major checkpoint for 
our team," said Tony Lavoie, manager of the SLS Stages Element at 
Marshall. "Getting to this point took a lot of hard work, and I'm 
proud of the collaboration between NASA and our partners at Boeing. 
Now that we have completed this review, we go from requirements to 
real blueprints. We are right on track to deliver the core stage for 
the SLS program." 

The core stage will store liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen to feed 
the rocket's four RS-25 engines, all of which will be former space 
shuttle main engines for the first few flights. The SLS Program has 
an inventory of 16 RS-25 flight engines that successfully operated 
for the life of the Space Shuttle Program. Like the space shuttle, 
SLS also will be powered initially by two solid rocket boosters on 
the sides of the launch vehicle. 

The SLS will launch NASA's Orion spacecraft and other payloads, and 
provide an entirely new capability for human exploration beyond low 
Earth orbit. Designed to be safe, affordable and flexible for crew 
and cargo missions, the SLS will continue America's journey of 
discovery and exploration to destinations including nearby asteroids, 
Lagrange points, the moon and ultimately, Mars. 

"This is a very exciting time for the country and NASA as important 
achievements are made on the most advanced hardware ever designed for 
human spaceflight," said William Gerstenmaier, associate 
administrator for the Human Exploration Operations Mission 
Directorate at NASA Headquarters in Washington. "The SLS will power a 
new generation of exploration missions beyond low Earth orbit and the 
moon, pushing the frontiers of discovery forward. The innovations 
being made now, and the hardware being delivered and tested, are all 
testaments to the ability of the U.S. aerospace workforce to make the 
dream of deeper solar system exploration by humans a reality in our 
lifetimes." 

The first test flight of NASA's Space Launch System, which will 
feature a configuration for a 77-ton (70-metric-ton) lift capacity, 
is scheduled for 2017. As SLS evolves, a two-stage launch vehicle 
configuration will provide a lift capability of 143 tons (130 metric 
tons) to enable missions beyond low Earth orbit and support deep 
space exploration. 

Boeing is the prime contractor for the SLS core stage, including its 
avionics. The core stage will be built at NASA's Michoud Assembly 
Facility in New Orleans using state-of-the-art manufacturing 
equipment. Marshall manages the SLS Program for the agency. 

Across the SLS Program, swift progress is being made on several 
elements. The J-2X upper-stage rocket engine, developed by Pratt & 
Whitney Rocketdyne for the future two-stage SLS, is being tested at 
Stennis Space Center in Mississippi. The prime contractor for the 
five-segment solid rocket boosters, ATK of Brigham City, Utah, has 
begun processing its first SLS hardware components in preparation for 
an initial qualification test in 2013. 

For more information about the Space Launch System, visit: 

http://www.nasa.gov/sls

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[meteorite-list] spaceterrain displays

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Hi Brad, Mike and list,
 
Great work Mike on spotting those bad displays and Brad for responding
quickly. I just saw the post this morning. If it is not too late, Brad,
and you have not literally destroyed them, contact Maria Haas at IMCA,
they are still looking for samples of the Lunar versions to be sent off
to Dr. Korotev to further establish a data base about these fakes. 
 
Similarly, if anyone else knows of some, I'm sure Maria would like to
hear from you...
 
Best regards, 
 
Daniel
 
Daniel Noyes
i...@moonmarsrocks.com
www.moonmarsrocks.com

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fake moon and mars meteorite NWA's

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Hi Rob,
 
Thanks for your note.  
 
One of the problems with the steelhorse1994 fakes is the guy was for the
most part targeting lower end gift shoppers by pricing auctions at a
penny to start and ending up selling 25mg rocks in a nice display for an
average of $17. When I did the statistics on his average sale price, I
knew something was wrong. He couldn't have sold a 1000 displays and
stayed in business with that kind of pricing. On a good day, the cost of
just the meteorite sample that size exceeds $17. Then add in ebay fees,
paypal fees, material costs, shipping costs, etc. It didn't add up,
unless of course he was grabbing granite rocks from his backyard!
 
The other side of this ripoff coin is this: I had a customer tell me
recently that she and her son were at Knots Berry Farm last week where
they saw "genuine" moon & mars rock displays similar to the ones I sell,
and they wanted $400 for the pair! She and her 8 year old were thrilled
to find mine on ebay and a $350 difference.
 
Your point on being careful about what and from whom you buy is well
taken, especially at the collector level where bigger pieces and bigger
prices are involved. But, the average Jane and Joe gift shoppers were
perfect foils for this fraud, which is why we all have to be diligent
about policing what we see around us on in our marketplace.
 
Best regards,
 
Daniel

 

Daniel Noyes
i...@moonmarsrocks.com
www.moonmarsrocks.com

 
 
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fake moon and mars meteorite NWA's
From: Rob McCafferty 
Date: Thu, June 07, 2012 3:20 pm
To: i...@moonmarsrocks.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Hi list

I would like to thank everyone for this informative thread. I have not
bought any lunar/martian meteorites for quite a few years now but as the
owner of a decent collection of planetaries, bought from a small number
reputable dealers whom you will all know well that i(we) trust
implicitly, it's nice to be kept up to date on the frauds out there.

I display my modest collection frequently and often loan them out to
museums and i'm often asked the usual questions, "how do i know they're
real" and "can anyone buy them".

My advice has always been to do you're homework thoroughly before taking
any chances since you are paying a lot of money for not a lot of
material. Following this thread, I now know to give explicit warnings to
people and what to watch for.
So many thanks

Rob

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fake moon and mars meteorite NWA's

[info]

Hi Mike and list,
 
As steelhorse1994 & spaceterrain4sale, he used Lunar NWA 4881, Lunar NWA
4734 & Martian NWA 4925. They were always packaged with the NWA lettered
on the front and American Meteorite Collectors Society called out on the
flip side. He used what I would call "commonly seen" moon or mars images
on the front AND back side.  
 
Mike is right, some people don't want to think they were capable of
being scammed and respond negatively to the messenger. Like myself, many
of you were no doubt fascinated with space stuff as a kid, and still
are, and he sold a lot of these fakes during the 2011 Holiday season. No
doubt, there are a lot of little kids out there who don't have real
lunar or martian rocks. This is the kind of thing that makes me really
p**sed off and motivated me in this whole matter. He was clever, as they
usually are, in that he built up a top seller rating on ebay, and still
has it BTW! If you saw the recent episode of Pawn Stars, not all "silver
bars" are pure inside. Those silver bars he is selling now may be
"filled" with something not so precious.

And, yes, we need to be on the lookout for those displays resurfacing
from time to time. It is even possible he will repackage again, under a
new ebay username. Since they are fake, he could just change the NWA's
with a simple google search. 

Not to worry, Mike. Since I sell legitimate displays on and off ebay, I
am ever vigilant on a weekly basis in observing any lunar or martian
material being sold on ebay.   
 
I have to say Dr. Korotev was really accomodating, and for a person of
his stature to help out, that was fantastic. He gets a lot of email from
people with meteor-wrongs who think they have struck it rich, and he was
probably intrigue when I wrote him with the bizarro version that I was
convinced I had a fake...
 
Best regards,
 
Daniel

Daniel Noyes
i...@moonmarsrocks.com
www.moonmarsrocks.com

 
 
 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay victims of fake moon and mars
meteorite scam
From: Michael Gilmer 
Date: Thu, June 07, 2012 10:56 am
To: i...@moonmarsrocks.com
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Hi Daniel and List,

I really feel bad for the buyers of these bogus planetaries. Things
like this damage the integrity of the entire market. In the distant
past, I used to contact sellers and buyers of questionable specimens,
but I stopped doing it long ago. First, I hate being the bearer of
ill tidings. Secondly, people like to shoot the messenger and more
than once I received hostile responses.

Now that Daniel mentions it, I do recall seeing those "titles" for
lunar real estate for sale on eBay. I had no idea it was the same
scammer who ended up selling the fake planetaries. The phrase "buyer
beware" takes on all new meaning when shopping eBay. eBay is not
going to bend over backwards to police their own marketplace because
it's not in their financial best interests. They receive revenue in
form of listing and final value fees for every item sold, regardless
of whether it is genuine or not. And they are not going to willingly
reduce their own revenue in the name of integrity. Integrity in the
corporate world went out the window back in the 1980's and it hasn't
been seen since. The only reason they have stricter controls in place
for gemstones, precious metals, Tiffany items, etc, is because those
collectibles have larger collector demographics which are very
litigious. Under the threat of lawsuits, they have tightened their
controls over certain collectibles and commodities. We will not see
the same for meteorites because we are a small (by comparison) niche
market.

But, be careful what you wish for. If eBay were to enact tighter
controls over meteorite listings, it could be a huge hassle for many
legitimate sellers. Do we really want corporate stuffed-suits and
bureaucrats sticking their noses into the meteorite market? That
would be a double-edged sword and once that Pandora's box is opened,
there is no closing it. Is that enough cliches in one paragraph for
everyone? LOL.

>From an ethical standpoint, the best we can do is to mitigate the
damage that has been done by this bogus planetary affair. We can put
all of this out here on the record for all to see. All it takes is a
simple Google search (or Bing) to reveal the truth. Also, we must try
to remove these bogus specimens from the market as we encounter them.
The danger here is that someone will remove the bogus specimens from
their easily-identified containers and sell them in another form where
they are less easily recognized.

For the record (perhaps Daniel can help answer this), what NWA numbers
are "tainted" by these bogus displays? Luckily, the scammer appears
to have limited himself to certain NWA numbered Lunars and Martians.
These numbers must be treated with extra scrutiny from now on, until
these specimens are removed from the market.

Again, kudos to Daniel for doing the sleuth-work and Dr. Korotev for
donating his expertis

Re: [meteorite-list] ID of Moon, Mars Meteorite scam artist

[info]

Dirk sent me a good suggestion, to determine the true identification of
the Moon, Mars Meteorite scam artist.

For those that want it, as follows:

EBAY Seller: steelhorse1994, aka spaceterrain4sale; John and Angela
Maurer, 1453 Sorento Circle, West Mellbourne Fl 32904

This is provided via paypal and the receipt for the sample I obtained in
order to have Dr. Korotev perform his analysis.

Best regards,

Daniel  
i...@moonmarsrocks.com
 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay victims of fake moon and mars meteorite scam

[info]

I like Shawn's idea of some kind of coordinated effort to contact all
the victims of steelhorse1994's scam. This can be done by going to the
flake's ebay feedback list where the buyer username and what they bought
is clearly indicated. I believe Ebay has an anti-spam trigger that
limits multiple messages to 10 or so per day per user. As I indicated
before, ebay has no interest whatsoever in reaching out to the victims
of this injustice. In fact they did not boot him completely off ebay, he
is still selling other items like silver bars (are they real, who
knows?). People should contact ebay and demand he be removed altogether.
Do you think they will listen? His last rock sales were the first week
of May so the bulk of his over 1000 sales are past the 45 day ebay
protection window. Some of the victims may be able to get paypal or
their credit card company to do something. By the way, most of the time
he was starting the sales at a 1 penny auction and ending at very low
prices relative to the large size of the rock (the one I got was at
minimum 20-25 mg), which also was a tip off to me.
 
More specifics: steelhorse1994 sold his fake moon and mars displays from
about October 2011 to early May 2012.  However, as best I can tell for
about a year before that (starting in October 2010 to Oct. 2011) under a
DIFFERENT username: "spaceterrain4sale" he was selling them. He still
has an ebay store but no items under that name and the feedback can be
viewed. And yes, at that time he was also selling deed titles to land on
the moon and mars and that dates back to Feb 2010. My theory is he got
in hot water with ebay about the deed title thing in Oct 2011 and that's
why he switched names and then only sold the rocks. It's so despicable! 
 
I had already tried to get ebay to kick the guy off back in March based
on the bogus American Meteorite Collectors Society thing on his
displays, but they did not act. So, a lot of thanks go out to Dr.
Korotev who was willing to take the time to analyze the rock I sent him
and provide the hard science evidence. 
 
Best regards,
Daniel

Daniel Noyes
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Re: [meteorite-list] Final report on analysis of fake martian meteorites sold on ebay, revisited

[info]

My apologies to all for not deleting the previous digest's postings when
I replied earlier today, which clogged up the digest...thanks to Elton
for pointing it out.
 
I had trouble myself finding my posting in all that, so I am reposting
it again:
 
As was previously reported in this forum last month, ebay seller
steelhorse1994 was dumping fake moon and mars rock displays on
unsuspecting buyers through ebay listings for over a year. My
involvement started a few months ago when I recognized the displays were
suspect and made it my mission to uncover the fraud. I obtained one of
these displays and solicited the assistance of Dr. Randy Korotev at
Washington University to analyze it with neutron activation. His initial
report to me last month indicated that it was NOT a rock from space and
was indeed terrestrial. I immediately contacted eBay. Two days later,
the fraud was no longer selling his fakes on eBay. There is still the
occasional ebay seller "reselling" some of these fakes, an unfortunate
repercussion of over 1000 bogus items dumped on eBay. 

Be on the lookout. The clear tell for ALL of his fakes is to observe the
reverse display side image. It will say in big letters: "American
Meteorite Collectors Society", which of course is nonexistent,
"Authenicity Guaranteed". NOT.

I followed up with eBay and inquired if they were planning to contact
all the buyers who bought the fraudulent material. Their response was:
"Oh no, they would have to contact us, and within 45 days of the
purchase". Are you kidding me? How self-serving is that! 

I have just received the final data analysis from Dr. Korotev regarding
the display that I sent him and have reproduced his conclusions below.
If anyone is interested in seeing the hard data (1 page, primarily
regarding the REE), drop me a note, and I will forward it to you.


Best regards,

Daniel Noyes

...

Dear Mr. Noyes:

Here are the final INAA data on your fake martian meteorite.

There appear to be no published data for NWA 4925, but according to my
colleague Tony Irving, NWA 4925 is a "depleted, permafic olivine
shergottite," of which there are several, including SaU 005 and the new
martian fall Tissint. Your rock is nothing like any of them. It's got
the geochemical signatures of a terrestrial rock - high alkalis, low Cr,
granite-like REE pattern.



~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+
Randy L. Korotev phone: (314) 935-5637
Research Professor fax: (314) 935-7361
Washington University in Saint Louis koro...@wustl.edu
Department of Earth & Planetary Sciences http://epsc.wustl.edu/

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Re: [meteorite-list] Final report on analysis of fake martian meteorites sold on ebay

[info]

As was previously reported in this forum last month, ebay seller
steelhorse1994 was dumping fake moon and mars rock displays on
unsuspecting buyers through ebay listings for over a year. My
involvement started a few months ago when I recognized the displays were
suspect and made it my mission to uncover the fraud. I obtained one of
these displays and solicited the assistance of Dr. Randy Korotev at
Washington University to analyze it with neutron activation. His initial
report to me last month indicated that it was NOT a rock from space and
was indeed terrestrial. I immediately contacted eBay. Two days later,
the fraud was no longer selling his fakes on eBay. There is still the
occasional ebay seller "reselling" some of these fakes, an unfortunate
repercussion of over 1000 bogus items dumped on eBay. 

Be on the lookout. The clear tell for ALL of his fakes is to observe the
reverse display side image. It will say in big letters: "American
Meteorite Collectors Society", which of course is nonexistent,
"Authenicity Guaranteed". NOT.

I followed up with eBay and inquired if they were planning to contact
all the buyers who bought the fraudulent material. Their response was:
"Oh no, they would have to contact us, and within 45 days of the
purchase". Are you kidding me? How self-serving is that! 
  
I have just received the final data analysis from Dr. Korotev regarding
the display that I sent him and have reproduced his conclusions below.
If anyone is interested in seeing the hard data (1 page, primarily
regarding the REE), drop me a note, and I will forward it to you.

 
Best regards,
 
Daniel Noyes
 
...

Dear Mr. Noyes:

Here are the final INAA data on your fake martian meteorite.

There appear to be no published data for NWA 4925, but according to my
colleague Tony Irving, NWA 4925 is a "depleted, permafic olivine
shergottite," of which there are several, including SaU 005 and the new
martian fall Tissint. Your rock is nothing like any of them. It's got
the geochemical signatures of a terrestrial rock - high alkalis, low Cr,
granite-like REE pattern.



~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+
Randy L. Korotev phone: (314) 935-5637
Research Professor fax: (314) 935-7361
Washington University in Saint Louis koro...@wustl.edu
Department of Earth & Planetary Sciences http://epsc.wustl.edu/



 
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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 13:17:07 -0400
From: Michael Gilmer 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] International Meteorite Market
To: Adam Hupe 
Cc: Adam 

Re: [meteorite-list] International Meteorite Market Article

[info]

I agree with what Adam (and Mike) are saying. Dr. Harvey's over the top
analogy comparing collectors to drug dealers is unprofessional, totally
unnecessary, and certainly not helpful to meaningful cooperation between
scientists and collectors.
 
'“There is a market out there that treats these [meteorites] as
collectibles and curios, almost as though they were fine art or ancient
artifacts,” Dr. Harvey explains.'

Curio means: an unusual object; ancient means: really old. Well, if 500
million year-old magma ejected from the Martian surface that then took a
million years to find its way to the Earth's surface isn't an ancient,
collectible curio, what the heck is! 
 
Regards,
Daniel Noyes
 
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2. Re: International Meteorite Market (Michael Gilmer)
3. Transit of Venus to take place in less then an hour!
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4. Re: Transit of Venus to take place in less then an hour!
(Graham Ensor)
5. Re: Transit of Venus to take place in less then anhour!
(Richard Montgomery)
6. 54 Auctions Ending In A Few Hours! (Adam Hupe)
7. Re: Transit of Venus to take place in less then anhour! (karmaka)
8. Venus Live NOW happening witness it! (drtanuki)
9. Re: Transit of Venus to take place in less then an hour!
(chris handler)
10. help with Identifying (Wade)
11. Venus transit in HI (tracy latimer)
12. Transit of Venus Pictures I took for all to see!! (Don Merchant)
13. Re: Venus transit in HI (Mike Tettenborn)
14. Bolide Meteor Fireball Over TX KS OK AR MO 5JUN2012 (drtanuki)
15. Breaking News- MBIQ Detects Meteor Fireball PA OH ONT WI
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16. Re: Glatton meteorite returns home for the Jubilee weekend
(Martin Goff)
17. Queens diamond jubilee celebration at Glatton with the return
of the Glatton meteorite (Martin Goff)
18. Meteorite Picture of the Day (valpar...@aol.com)
19. Re: Queens diamond jubilee celebration at Glatton with the
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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 09:25:56 -0700
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Outstanding.

Paul Swartz

> Cosmologist Neal de Grasse Tyson and others on the origins of man...musically.
> 
> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=61e_1338836306
> 


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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 13:17:07 -0400
From: Michael Gilmer 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] International Meteorite Market
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I agree with Adam 100%, and my comment to the article says as much.

I really wish writers would stick to subjects they actually know
something about. This article is nothing more than slander.

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On 6/5/12, Adam Hupe  wrote:
> Spoken by somebody who is obviously out of touch:
>
>
> ?The skill level that some collectors have to get stones out of Africa
> rivals that of drug dealers,? says Dr. Harvey. ?It?s clear that
> meteorites are so valuable to these collectors that they?re more than
> happy to get them and worry about the cost in terms of legality later
> on.?
>
> More of this drug dealer crap.
>
> Some people will never learn. Cutting down other markets will not build up
> the case for more Antarctic funding. Collaboration is where it is at. This
> latest falls have demonstrated this handily! It appears a balance was
> struck and now we have out-of-touch, old-school thinking creeping out of
> nowhere when it is totally unnecessary.
>
>
> The meteorite market would be considered near pristine if compared to other
> markets. One just needs to look at the gemstone, fossil and artifact
> markets to conclude this.
>
> Happy Hunting,
>
> Adam
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> Meteo

[meteorite-list] Big bolid over the south of Sweden 11-11-11 1800 hours local time

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Dear List,

A big bolid was reported by the Swedish press.
Time 1800 PM
Location: Southern Sweden
Direction: South West

Does anyone have skycam recordings or more observations/information?

The link ( in swedish)
http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/stor-rymdsten-lyste-upp-himlen-over-sverige
http://www.ufo.se/blogg/15855
(both links are in swedish so please use google translate)

Thank you in advance for all the information we can get.

Jan van Hoffen
IMCA#8245
www.meteoritshopen.se

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[meteorite-list] Hunting meteorites at the Morasko area (Poland)

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Dear list,

After a 3 hour long google searchIs there anybody in the list who 
could help me with advice/tips of hunting meteorites in this area?
What regulations/laws do exist to use a metalldetector (it would be 
great to know the size of the protected area aswell, where to hunt or 
not)


All information is highly appriciated.

Please contact me offlist.

Thank you in advance.

Regards,
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Sweden
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[meteorite-list] 2 fireball spotted Aug 27 Ontario/Canada

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Dear list,

2 fireballs/
Ontario/Canada
direction:north/east
Date:August 27
Time approx. 6 in the evening

My friend who lives Canada contacted me and asked if i had heard more 
about this event?

Does anyone have more information?

Thanks

Best Regards,
Jan van Hoffen
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[meteorite-list] Large Murchison at the Perth West Asutralian Museum

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Hi all,

Not sure about the size but it will fit in both of your hands.

Will be heading there next week and will try to get the size.

See pictures here...

http://tektiteinc.com/murchison.html

Cheers,
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[meteorite-list] AD - Monster Rizalite Tektite 867grams!

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Happy New Year all!

Please have a look at my 867grams monster sized Rizalite on ebay now.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150544092000&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

Please shoot me an offer if you are interested.

Cheers,
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[meteorite-list] Flanged Australite Hunting Video

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Hi all,

Please see the link below for a very nice flanged button hunting video!
Wish I was back living in Victoria!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqRoVdFDB9E

Cheers,
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[meteorite-list] AD - TektiteInc.com Tektites ALL SOLD OUT and CLOSING the site. Thanks all.

[info]

Hi all,

Just wanted to say that all the Tektites/Rizalites on my site have been
sold out and that I will be shutting down the site in a few weeks time
once the leftovers are out the door. Getting real hard to find good
specimens these days...

The only specimens left for sale are the ones in my ebay shop now. These
will take a few more weeks to sell out and thats it!

Will be listing my ebay shop specimens at a low, low price so keep a look
out!

Would like to thank all those who have purchased from me in the past and
those who have helped me learn more about Meteorites and Tektites.

I have made many friends in the Meteorite world and hope to continue to
keep in touch with all of you.

Will always still be on the lookout for quality specimens to buy or trade!

Cheers,
Desmond Leong
IMCA #2254
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[meteorite-list] AD – New Tektites Rizalites add ed to eBay.

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Hi All,

Please have a look at the new Rizalites added to my auction and shop.

Probably got another 20 or so specimens to sell on ebay then that would be
it!

Thanks!

Cheers,
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[meteorite-list] AD Australite Flanged Button Ending Soon!

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Hi all,

My Australite Flanged Button on eBay is ending in about a days time so
please have a look. Thanks and Happy Holidays!

Cheers,
Desmond Leong
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[meteorite-list] AD-Australite Fully Flanged Button 0.99cents No Reserve!

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Hello all,

Im heading back home soon so I need some cash to fund my trip. Im listing
my button with no reserve starting at 99cents. It was previously listed at
"Buy It Now" for $1999 with now takers but a LOT of watchers!

Here is the link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=350283673840&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

Thanks for your time and Happy Holidays!

Cheers,
Desmond Leong
IMCA #2254
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[meteorite-list] AD – ENDING Australite Flanged Button & MORE Manila Flood P ictures

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Hello all,

Just a reminder that this auction will be ending in about a days time so
please have a look if you're interested.

I've also added more Manila Flooding pictures. PLease see the link below
and thanks.

Cheers
Des

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Subject: AD  – Australite Flanged Button & Manila Flood Pictures
From:i...@tektiteinc.com
Date:Wed, September 30, 2009 12:58 am
To:  meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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Hello all,

Sorry for not replying to some emails because we have been busy cleaning
the house after the terrible floods on Saturday in Manila.

Also we didn’t have any electricity or phones both land lines and cell.
Please see the link below for some pictures if you’re interested.

http://tektiteinc.com/manilafloods.html

Please also check out this video taken from a University nearby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6nkxVaydmY

However, things are finally getting back to normal now.

Anyways, please visit my ebay shop for a nice Australite button Im putting
up for sale. You can also see this specimen on my site by clicking on the
link below:

http://tektiteinc.com/forsale.html

Cheers,
Desmond Leong
IMCA #2254
http://www.TektiteInc.com
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[meteorite-list] AD – Australite Flanged Button & Manila Flood Pictures

[info]

Hello all,

Sorry for not replying to some emails because we have been busy cleaning
the house after the terrible floods on Saturday in Manila.

Also we didn’t have any electricity or phones both land lines and cell.
Please see the link below for some pictures if you’re interested.

http://tektiteinc.com/manilafloods.html

Please also check out this video taken from a University nearby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6nkxVaydmY

However, things are finally getting back to normal now.

Anyways, please visit my ebay shop for a nice Australite button Im putting
up for sale. You can also see this specimen on my site by clicking on the
link below:

http://tektiteinc.com/forsale.html

Cheers,
Desmond Leong
IMCA #2254
http://www.TektiteInc.com
http://stores.ebay.com/Tektite-Inc
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[meteorite-list] AD - Australite Part Button ending in a day on eBay

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Hi all,

Just a quick one to let you know that my Australite Part Button is ending
on eBay in about a days time.

Even if you're not interested in Tektites, it's worth having a look.

Cheers,
Desmond Leong
IMCA #2254
http://www.TektiteInc.com
http://stores.ebay.com/Tektite-Inc
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[meteorite-list] AD - eBay Australite Part Flanged Button 2.84Grams No Reserve 0.99cents

[info]

Hello all,

I just listed on eBay an Australite Part Flanged Button 2.84Grams at No
Reserve starting at just 0.99cents!

This specimen would have easily commanded $2500 if the flange was complete.

Please have a look.

I can only ship by DHL Courier for an additional $40. If this is no good
for you then please don’t bid. Thanks in advance!

Cheers,
Desmond Leong
IMCA #2254
http://www.TektiteInc.com
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[meteorite-list] AD - Australite Flanged Button ENDING soon on eBay.

[info]

Hello all,

Just a quick one to let you know that my Australite Fully Flanged Button
is ending soon on eBay. Still no takers even with a low starting price!
Thanks!

Cheers,
Desmond Leong
IMCA #2254
http://www.TektiteInc.com
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[meteorite-list] AD - AUSTRALITE FLANGED BUTTON on eBay now!

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Hello all,

Please have a look at the Australite Flanged Button I have on eBay now.

This was found in South Australia in the Flinders Ranges and it was in a
collection from the previous owner for the last 15 years.

Please also have a looksie at my other Rizalite auctions!

Just a reminder that my eBay shop specimens are now at 50% off.

Thanks for your time.

Cheers,
Desmond Leong
IMCA #2254
http://www.TektiteInc.com
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[meteorite-list] AD - TektiteInc.com Sale - 60% Off - 70% Off...

[info]

Hello all,

Not many Rizalites are left on my site and I really want to sell all the
specimens. However, the site will still be maintained for reference
purposes.

Make me an offer, 60% Off, even 70% Off! All serious offers Off List please.

Please also have a look at the quality specimens from my ebay Store which
are now at 50% Off.

Shipping Info:
Under 150grams $8
Over 150grams $12
Over 400grams and under 1Kilo $33 via FedEx to the US only.
European customers please email for FedEx costs.

Cheers,
Desmond Leong
IMCA #2254
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[meteorite-list] AD Tektite Inc eBay Shop 50% all Rizalites!

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Hello all,

Want a quality Rizalite specimen at half the cost? If so, please visit my
eBay shop where all items are less 50%.

Thanks!

Cheers,
Desmond Leong
IMCA #2254
http://www.TektiteInc.com
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[meteorite-list] AD-50% Off all Rizalites on TektiteInc.com SALE

[info]

Hello all,

Many thanks to those who visited my site during the sale.

Many Rizalites have been sold over the last week and there's still a
little left on my site.

Please note that I will NOT be adding anymore Rizalites to my site once
the remaining have been sold. Yes, I am running out!

However, I will still be listing a few quality specimens on evilBay every
now and then.

Please see the link below that directs you to a page where all the
available specimens are located. This will save you time in looking for
the specimens that have not been sold yet.

http://tektiteinc.com/forsale.html

Also, please have a look at my evilBay listings, I have some choice
specimens ending in a few hours time.

Thanks again.

Cheers,
Desmond Leong
IMCA #2254
http://www.TektiteInc.com
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[meteorite-list] AD - SALE 50% Off all Rizalites on TektiteInc.com SALE

[info]

Hello all,

Many thanks to those who visited my site during the sale.

Many Rizalites have been sold over the last week and there's still a
little left on my site.

Please note that I will NOT be adding anymore Rizalites to my site once
the remaining have been sold. Yes, I am running out!

However, I will still be listing a few quality specimens on evilBay every
now and then.

Please see the link below that directs you to a page where all the
available specimens are located. This will save you time in looking for
the specimens that have not been sold yet.

http://tektiteinc.com/forsale.html

Also, please have a look at my evilBay listings, I have some choice
specimens ending in a few hours time.

Thanks again.

Cheers,
Desmond Leong
IMCA #2254
http://www.TektiteInc.com
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[meteorite-list] AD - SALE 50% Off all Rizalites on TektiteInc.com SALE

[info]

Hi all,

Im having a 50% off Sale for all the Rizalites on my website to make room
for a new hobby of mine so please have a look. Im going to have this sale
on for 1 month.

Free shipping will not be included in this Sale. The breakdown of the
shipping charges are below:

Under 150g $8
Between 150g to 400g $12
Between 400g to 900g $28

Please note that I do not charge extra or charge a handling fee for my
shipping. This pricing is what Phil Post charges me.

However, FedEx is offering a special for my business' company account
which means I can send specimens that weigh in between 400grams - 900grams
for just a couple bucks more than the $28 cost for Air Mail but I will
shoulder this cost so that you receive your package a lot faster than my
regular Air Mail postage.

Thanks for looking.

Cheers,
Desmond Leong
IMCA #2254
http://www.TektiteInc.com
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[meteorite-list] AD Half Kilo Tektite Rizalite Splashform ending on eBay in 1 day!

[info]

Hi all,

I have a 529 Gram Monster Tektite Rizalite Splashform ending on eBay in
about a days time. Please have a look if you're interested.

Cheers,
Desmond Leong
IMCA #2254
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[meteorite-list] AD Tektite Rizalite HALF KILO Monster on eBay starts at $0.99

[info]

Hello listees,

I just listed a Huge Monster sized Rizalite with no chips, weighing in at
529 grams on eBay with a starting price of $0.99 and no reserve.  Please
have a look.

Thanks in advance!

Cheers,
Desmond Leong
IMCA #2254
http://www.TektiteInc.com
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[meteorite-list] AD - Rizalites oneBay Ending in one day.

[info]

Hi all,

Got some nice Rizalites ending on eBay in about a days time. Please have a
look.

Cheers,
Desmond Leong
IMCA #2254
http://www.TektiteInc.com
http://stores.ebay.com/Tektite-Inc
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[meteorite-list] AD - RIZALITES ending on eBay in less than a day!

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Hello Listees,

I have some nice Rizalites ending on eBay soon. Please have a look. Thanks
in advance.

Cheers,
Desmond Leong
IMCA #2254
http://www.TektiteInc.com
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[meteorite-list] AD - Rizalites ending on Ebay in less than a day!

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Hello again all,

Once again I have some nice Rizalite pieces ending soon on ebay. Please
have a look.

Thanks in advance!

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[meteorite-list] AD - Rizalites ending on Ebay in less than a day!

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Please have a look at some of my Rizalite listings ending soon on eBay.

Thanks for your time.

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[meteorite-list] Tektite trip to Belitung (Billiton)

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Hi all,

I have a message from Aubrey. He has problems posting on the Met list so
Im posting it on his behalf. Thanks.

Hi,

I have 4 new pages on my website following a trip to Belitung Island
(formerly Billiton Island). Had a great time, got a load of nice
Billitonites and loved the Indonesian people!

http://www.tektites.co.uk/belitung.html

Regards,
Aubrey

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[meteorite-list] AD Nice Rizalites ending soon on eBay TektiteInc.com

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Hi All,

Got some nice pieces ending soon on FleaBay. Please have a looksie. Thanks.

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[meteorite-list] AD eBay Tektite Inc Shop back online!

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Hi all,

My Tektite Inc shop on eBay is back online. Please take some time visit my
store for your Rizalite needs. Thanks all.

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[meteorite-list] AD - TektiteInc.com Site Updates and eBay Auctions

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Hello all,

Please take some time to check out my site cause I've added some really
nice specimens on my Collection 7 and Collection 8 pages.

Also, I have some fleaBay auctions ending in a couple of days time.

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[meteorite-list] AD - Rizalites Tektite Inc on eBay. Australite Hunting Pictures

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Hello all,

Please have a look at my offerings of Rizalites on ebay. I've got one
specimen ending in about a days time.

Please also have a look at the Australite hunting pictures in Western
Australia on my site below. Thanks!

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[meteorite-list] Australite Hunting Pictures and eBay AD

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Hello all,

Please see the link below for some nice pictures of hunting for
Australites in the Western Australian Gold fields.

http://tektiteinc.com  under the Perth Museum link.

Aubrey Whymark recently acquired an Australite collection from a Western
Australian prospector and these pictures show where most of his
Australites were found.

Please contact Aubrey if you would like a copy of these pictures or
purchase some of his Tektites. He recently bought 120 kilograms of
Rizalites off me so please give him a buzz if you’re interested. His
website link is below.

http://www.tektites.co.uk/index.html

Please also see my offerings on eBay! Thanks and enjoy the pictures.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Am I missing something here?

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Martin, others,

as for the "unclassified CO3" that was indeed the wrong term. I was referring 
to a CO3 type chondrite whose classification has not yet reached official 
status. I sincerely apologize for causing "confused disbelief". 

Svend

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Jeff Grossman wrote:

Dear Martin and list,

I can't comment on the CO3 oxymoron, but I am the inventor of the 
type 3.05 classification, so I can comment on that.

As we have studied type 3 chondrites over the last 30 years, 
especially ordinary and CO chondrites, we have been gradually 
refining the 1967 Van Schmus and Wood classification scheme.  In 
1980, we realized that type 3 chondrites alone showed as great a 
range of metamorphic effects as type 4-6 did, so Sears and coworkers 
including me, proposed subdividing type 3 into types 3.0-3.9.  In 
2005, Grossman and Brearley (2005) described a similar wide range of 
metamorphic effects just between types 3.0 and 3.2 and subdivided 
this into 3.00-3.15 by steps of 0.05.  Since then, we have even begun 
to recognize different levels of metamorphic heating between types 
3.00 and 3.05, and so we find Acfer 094 at type 3.00, Semarkona at 
type 3.01, ALHA77307 at type 3.03 (e.g., Bonal et al. 2007; Kimura, 
Grossman and Weisberg, 2008, MAPS in press).

These differences are quite real and important.  In type 3.05 
ordinary chondrites, the olivine in chondrules has begun to decompose 
from its high-temperature state, the matrix chemistry is quite 
different, especially for sulfur, and the metal has greatly changed 
in structure and composition (all compared to the much, much rarer 
type 3.00-3.01 chondrites).  Although these numbers do not tell you 
the peak metamorphic temperature, they are very useful in describing 
the various transitions that occur during metamorphic heating.

The fact that there may be many possible combinations of chemical 
group and petrologic type is a good thing, although there certainly 
aren't 1500.  Basically, current usage is 3.00-3.04 (5 categories), 
3.05-3.15 (3 categories), 3.2-3.9 (8 catagories), 4-7 (4 categories) 
= 20 categories.  I suppose if you double this for classifiers who 
can't make up their minds, you get ~40 categories, times 3 chondrite 
groups plus 2 transitional groups = ~200 total combinations.

Jeff

At 11:24 PM 6/15/2008, Dark Matter wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>Twice in the past few days, I found myself staring at the screen in
>confused disbelief. The two statements in sales ads:
>
>
>"a yet unclassified CO3"
>
>and
>
>"absolutely rare type L3.05 !"
>
>just seem to me to border on absurdity. How can a unclassified
>specimen be identified by its classification?
>
>And if we carry petrological grade to the hundredths, then
>theoretically we could have over 1500 ordinary chondrite designations
>not to mention all the transitional possibilities. I fail to see how
>that level of hypothetical opinionated hair splitting could do any
>good...except for ebay sales ads that is.
>
>Just an evening though when I should be working on something else.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Martin
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[meteorite-list] AD Rizalite 698Grams auction ending in one day!

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Hello all,

Please have a look at my auction for a 698gram Rizalite which will end in
one day. Thanks!

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Re: [meteorite-list] West Australian Perth Museum Pictures plus AD

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Hi all,

Thanks for all the comments. Forgot to mention to all the Mineral
collectors out there that the museum also has an excellent Minerals
collection! Unfortunately I didnt have the time nor space on my memory
card to take pictures of these.

"I have pictures of similar in Adelaide and Vienna from a couple of months
ago which I must load up some where for folks to see."

Graham, if your looking for somewhere to upload your museum pics then you
should try Aubrey Whymark's site where there is a section dedicated to
museum pics! Please see link:

http://www.tektites.co.uk/museums.html

Cheers
Des


> Great pictures Desmond. Those big irons, in particular, are beautiful.
>
> Mark
>
>
> Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Please see the link below of my recent visit to the Western Australian
>> Museum while I was back home in Perth.
>>
>
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[meteorite-list] West Australian Perth Museum Pictures plus AD

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Hi all,

Please see the link below of my recent visit to the Western Australian
Museum while I was back home in Perth.

There are some amazing meteorite and tektite specimens for all to see and
enjoy so pop in if you are in the area.

http://tektiteinc.com/perthmuseum.html

Also, please see the link below for my auction of a HUGE 698gram Rizalite!

http://cgi.ebay.com/RIZALITE-TEKTITE-NOT-METEORITE-MONSTER-SPHERE-698gr_W0QQitemZ350064619313QQihZ022QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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[meteorite-list] papers dealing with meteorite orientation

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for those working on the subject the literature below may be of use. 1,2 and 4 
cover certain aspects of the subject, 3 and 5 offer an approach to the matter 
istself. I am sure there are other valuable sources.

1. Bronshtehn, V. A.: Fragmentation and crushing of large meteoric bodies in an 
atmosphere. In: Sol. Syst. Res., Vol. 29, No. 5, p. 392 - 399

2. Rietmeijer, F. J. M.; MacKinnon, I. D. R.: Melting, ablation, and vapor 
phase condensation during atmospheric passage of the Bjurbole meteorite. In: 
(American Geophysical Union and NASA, Lunar and Planetary Science Conference, 
14th, Houston, TX, Mar. 14-18, 1983) Journal of Geophysical Research, 
Supplement (ISSN 0148-0227), vol. 89, Feb. 15, 1984, p. B597-B604.

3. Nininger, Harvey Harlow: Meteorites: A photographic study of surface 
features and commentary. Part 2: Orientation. Tempe : Center for Meteorite 
Studies, Arizona State University, c1977

4. Fisher, W. J: Mass and Velocity of Meteorites and the Air Density Along 
Their Luminous Paths. In: Harvard College Observatory Circular, vol. 385, 
pp.1-16

5. Haidinger, W.: Eine Leitform der Meteoriten. With 2 plates. In: 
Sitzungsberichte der mathem.-naturwissenschaftlichen Classe. Vol. XL, Vienna 
1860

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Re: [meteorite-list] March 4 RSPOD Oriented (sic) 32kg stone

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Elton, others,

in this case, and regarding the thoroughly curated and painstakingly documented 
collection Dave keeps, I would rather trust the owner's judgement instead of 
your photo interpretation skills - however visionary they may be. 

Besides there is currently no need to defend Dave as you have not provided a 
single point why the stone pictured should not be oriented. You may consider 
this in your concept of science.

just my two cents

Svend




--- Mr EMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ok would someone that believes this is an accurate
> caption please
> defend it.
> 
>  "Sean Northover, a student at Kennesaw Mountain
> High School,
> confirming the weight of a fresh, ">>>ORIENTED<<<"
> 32.6 kg
> chondrite"???
>  
> This is too early
> for April 1st.
> 
> To let bad and really bad psuedoscience take over
> all we had to do was
> continue being silent on dubious claims. Now every
> other meteorite we
> see is "oriented".  We know this is the truth
> because any new commer, 
> meteorite owner, is magically, over night, an
> "expert" at identifying
> and describing meteorite surface features.
> 
> If anyone wishes to declare a meteorite "oriented"--
> anyone may do so
> without a pittance of proof and no one on this list
> will ever object.
> Because we refuse to define "oriented". 
> 
> Ergo, I have a perfect sphere meteorite that fell
> from my table to the
> floor and under the imagination that makes EVERY
> single meteorite
> "oriented" I can proclaim that my sphere is oriented
> having traveled
> through the atmosphere.  Given the wide latitude
> used in claiming
> orientation no one can disprove that I am not
> correct.
> 
> (OH YEAH  and it has perfect fusion crust because
> its drop was extended
> for several seconds over a candle flame before
> reaching the floor).
> 
> I can proclaim it as a fully oriented, fully fusion
> crusted,
> sphere-shaped "fall" and under the unfettered
> latitude we allow amongst
> meteorite collectors no one can prove my description
> wrong.
> 
> So is this a hobby or a study of science?
> 
> Continually Baffled,
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[meteorite-list] AD-Does anyone need a nice Tektite pendant???

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Hello list members,

My auction for a Huge 798Gram Rizalite is ending on eBay in a few hours so
please have a look. Thanks again.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=350028414699&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

Oh, please do not use this specimen for a pendant for risk of neck
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[meteorite-list] AD: HUGE MONSTER sized RIZALITE on eBay now!

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Hello list members,

Please check out the Monster Rizalite I'm putting up for sale on eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=350028414699&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

Also, visit the link below for information on where this piece originally
came from. Thanks for your time!

http://www.tektites.co.uk/51.html

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[meteorite-list] Field expedition - off topic

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We will be out in the field and I will have no access to my emails until March 
4th. Thank you for your patience.

Svend

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[meteorite-list] LET'S MAKE METEORITE/TEKTITE COLLECTING FUN AGAIN!

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Hi list members,

In light of recent posts, I thought it would be nice to make things “fun”
again!

Below are links to funny or weirdly shaped Tektites or Meteorites.

http://tektiteinc.com/Shrek%20Rizalite%20Davao%2005.jpg

http://tektiteinc.com/Shrek%20Rizalite%20Davao%2004.jpg

http://tektiteinc.com/Tektiteman%20Rizalite.jpg

Please feel free to submit more pictures of funnily shaped specimens.
Thanks all!

BTW, thanks to Keith for the wonderful Tucson pictures and also to Ruben
for the recent Tucson video. Keep em coming guys!

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[meteorite-list] AD–Rizalite Sale 20% off all inventory to celebrate Tucc son Show!

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Hello list menbers,

Another reminder about the Tucson Show sale Im having right through to the
end of Feb.

Please visit my site or ebay store.

The below listing of a nice hamburger shaped specimen with unusual
grooving ends in 13 hours. Please have a look.
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Also, here's another peculiar Rizalite from Davao city! A new locale???
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=350021530612&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

Thanks for all the great pictures so far of the Tucson show. Cant wait to
see more!

Cheers,
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Re: [meteorite-list] most popular meteorite

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good question, I'd say it was either the article on the Tunguska event, the 
entry on Canyon Diablo, Nakhla, Sikhote Alin or ALH 84001.

By the way, I think I speak for quite a few us when I say how much we 
appreciate that you keep this invaluable source of information online and up to 
date. I have only a slight idea of the work you must put into this but from my 
perspective it is worth every bit of it. 

cheers

Svend

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Subject: [meteorite-list] most popular meteorite


> Y'all,
> 
> I've analyzed the webserver log files from the nearly 3 years of the 
> Meteoritical Bulletin Database's existence online.  Would anybody 
> like to guess which article has been looked at more times than any 
> other (30% more than the second-most viewed)?  This is not counting 
> views by google and other 'bots.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman   phone: (703) 648-6184
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> 954 National Center
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[meteorite-list] AD – RIZALITE TUCSON SALE 20% OFF ALL INVENTORY!

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Hello all,

The Tucson show is nearly here and unfortunately there are some of us who
would love to go but simply cannot make it.

So I’ve decided to have a special Tucson Show Sale until the end of
February to help ease the pain for all the people who are missing out on
this special event.

The 20% off Sale will be for all the items on my site, mainly Rizalites
and some Meteorites as well as the Store Inventory items on my eBay store.
 The eBay 20% discount will hopefully take effect tomorrow.

As usual, all my items have FREE SHIPPING via Registered Airmail.

Also, I currently have 2 auctions going with No Reserves with very low
starting bids. Please have a look below.

A very nicely grooved specimen starting at just 0.30 cents per gram:
http://cgi.ebay.com/TEKTITE-RIZALITE-BEYER-COLL-NOT-METEORITE-91grams-NR_W0QQitemZ350016410985QQihZ022QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

A well represented Lot of Rizalites starting at just 0.25 cents per gram:
http://cgi.ebay.com/RIZALITE-TEKTITE-NOT-METEORITE-ASSORTED-LOT-260grams_W0QQitemZ350016397887QQihZ022QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I’m also looking forward to seeing the wonderful photos taken at the
Tucson show so please share them with us as soon as you get back!

Thanks again all and Happy New Year!

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Re: [meteorite-list] intriguing Question

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Pat, Sterling, others,

moving or resting sand is not conserving meteorites but is one of the major 
threats to the preservation of meteorites. Most if not all meteorite 
aggregation fields in the Sahara have one thing in common: they are free of 
sand. In fact they are shielded against the sandflow by ridges or mountain 
chains, e.g. the Djebel al Aswad is bordering the east of the Dar Al Ghani. 

These natural barriers that prevent the sand from entering certain areas are 
commonly situated in the east or northeast of the aggregation field. And the 
winds on the African continent tend to blow from the northeast during the whole 
year since at least ten thousand years.

The surface horizons of the meteorite concentration areas such as the HAH and 
the DAG are mostly composed of pebbles and top soil and are free of quartz 
sand. 

Terrestrial lifetimes of meteorites decrease as soon as quartz sand is involved 
due to the quick mechanical abrasion. 

It is true that meteorites found in aggregation areas in the Sahara were 
sedimented and protected by soils from wheathering before the recent wind 
erosion uncovered them. This process started about 12 - 10,000 years ago and 
continues until present. But these sediments that are being eroded today were 
not composed of quartz sand.

There is a good paper on the mechanisms responsible for meteorite concentration 
in the dense aggregation areas by Schlueter et al. :

J. Schlüter et al. (2002) The Dar al Gani meteorite field, Meteoritics & 
Planetary Science 37, 1079-1093.

I fully second Sterling's post on this subject but take the liberty to add, 
that desertification in the Sahara may not be such an irreversible process as 
suggested. 

A single acacia growing on a hammadah or on an erg-surface accumulates soil in 
a radius of 25 - 40 meters. This soil layer can reach up to 1 m height during 
the lifetime of the plant. A climate change involving a noticeable growth of 
humidity, triggerd by a change of e.g. ocean currents, would soon lead to the 
spreading of Savannah vegetation into the Saharan voids.

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From: "Pat Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] intriguing Question


> Hi Jasoon, Peter and the List,
>
> Some thoughts on why the Sahara is so productive:
>
> Another significant factor is the climate over the
> past several thousand years. The sahara and parts of
> the American southwest have been dry for a long time,
> this increases the terrestrial recognizability time of
> any meteorites that are there. The sahara has another
> interesting and significant factor having to do with
> the sand dunes; slowly moving dunes provide a soft
> landing and a protective environment as meteorites are
> covered by a slow moving dune. Later (sometimes much
> later) meteorites are uncovered in great shape with
> significant terrestrial age.
>
> Another factor is economic; most of us in the US that
> hunt meteorites do so on weekends and vacation time.
> Our motivation is to get out in nature and do a bit of
> 'big science'. Many of the hunters in the sahara are
> subsistance hunting, many are truely professional full
> time hunters. I get in 25 days of meteorite hunting
> tops per year, the locals in the sahara get in well
> above 100 days per year in many cases. They have in
> many cases spent their lives in the desert. I have
> only spent a total of 10 or 12 weeks in the areas
> where I hunt. They are better at seeing the odd rock.
>
> A few American hunters that are retired and in good
> health likely pass the 100 days per year in the field
> hunting mark. I hope to be one of them in 12 or 13
> years:)
>
> Pat
> --- Jason Utas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hola Peter, All,
>> I know individual aspect of your questions have been
>> addressed, but
>> I'd like to as well...
>>
>> >I know the Sahara desert is about a galgillion
>> square miles.
>> Then there are the deserts in Calif., South America,
>> the Antarctic continent
>> and God only knows where else. Why don't I see any
>> meteorites from the
>> Gobi desert, or maybe the Mongolia desert.
>>
>> Well, yeah, it's big.  But the main reason that
>> there are more
>> meteorites found in the Sahara than elsewhere is
>> because there are
>> more people looking.  There are just as many martian
>> and lunar
>> meteorites elsewhere, but they tend to be harder to
>> recognize due to
>> harder hunting terrain (similar rocks, etc) - and
>> because there are
>> probably twenty or so meteorite hunters in the
>> southwest who get out
>> into the wilderness with some frequency - probably a
>> few more, since
>> Franconia became popular.  Compared to the undefined
>> number of hunters
>> who have been scouring the Sahara for the past
>> decade, well, it's just
>> not much of a comparison.
>> Same goes for South America, though Antarct

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For those interested I have transcribed and translated a 1895 letter by Henry 
A. Ward to Emil Cohen in which the latter suggests a trade US versus European 
meteorites from the Greifswald collection.

If you ever wanted to know how to engineer a smooth trade with an institutional 
collection old school style then this is a must read:

http://www.meteorite-recon.com/en/Meteorite%20literature%20collection_3.htm

cheers

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Re: [meteorite-list] Has Mali Been Classified?

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Dean, others,

the classification of the Mali material is almost completed. NomCom submission 
will follow soon. I provided the classifying lab with samples of the commom 
lithology as well as with samples of the IMB lithologies. I do already have the 
preliminary data and will provide them as soon as the submission is official.

Svend

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I may have missed it in all of the postings but is
there a classification?
I just got 9 kilos of the stuff (So will have a sale
posting later today or tomorrow) and this stuff is
georgous. Just look at this 1785 gram Mali:
http://www.ilovenewfoundland.com/meteoriteshop/1785mali.jpg
If anybody has classification details please let me
know
Cheers
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[meteorite-list] looking to contact Dima Sadilenko

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been looking for a way to reach Dima Sadilenko, any working email adress would 
be appreciated. 

Thanks 

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Re: [meteorite-list] 2008 Meteorite Calender

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Hi all,

I'm just going through my emails and was a bit shocked at the interest in the 
calender. I didn't think it would be that popular! ;-)

So I thought I'd answer some questions to all. I wanted a meteorite calender 
for 2008 and obviously didn't want to have thousands printed up. So I used 
CafePress.com. For those of you who aren't familiar with that website, it is a 
third-party site which prints up almost everything you can think of from 
apparel, merchandise and yes... even calenders! ;-)

They handle absolutely everything! When an item is ordered they take payment, 
print it up and ship it. Quite remarkable actually given the small individual 
nature of each order. So the sales are completely out of my hands and all 
shipping costs etc will need to be checked for the relevant country on the 
website. They were quite reasonably priced to Australia and it was very quick 
and also well packaged.

If you have any questions, please email me off-list and I'll do the best I can 
to help. And for those of you asking about 2009... let's just wait and see! ;-)

Cheers,

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Re: [meteorite-list] Chronopost and Jeffs Calendar

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Hi Jim,

Thanks for that. I just wanted my own meteorite calender for 2008 which is why 
I made it but thought others might be interested too. Mine arrived yesterday 
and already has a place picked out on the wall! ;-) Hope you like yours too!

Cheers,

Jeff


>  Original Message 
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Chronopost and Jeffs Calendar
> From: jim brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, November 23, 2007 11:58 pm
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> 
> Greetings listees
>   First of all thanks for the info about chronopost Aziz.I lost 2 
> packages from Morocco within the last 6 months and always wondered what the 
> truth was,whether or not they had been sent.I suspected they had been as my 
> contact has always been a trustworthy man and had sent scans of the 
> documents.By the way in the U.K it is ParcelForce and not DHL who deliver 
> chronopost packages.
> 
> Jeff,great job on that calendar,it looks fantastic.My order has just been 
> placed,cheers 
> 
> Jim Brady
> emeraldisleminerals
> Ireland
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Re: [meteorite-list] wabar -glass vs. iron

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Wabar impact material is pretty interesting stuff. Very cool.

http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/wabar.html

Cheers,

Jeff

>  Original Message 
> Subject: [meteorite-list] wabar -glass vs. iron
> From: mckinney trammell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sat, November 17, 2007 3:38 am
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> 
> answer me this: so, the wabar iron that you can buy
> was so big that it ALSO made it's own glss out of sand?
> 
> 
>   
> 
> Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page. 
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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Re: [meteorite-list] Canadian Meteorites

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Hi Jeff, others,

you may contact the University of Calgary. They are part of the Prairie 
Meteorite Search program and have been quite succesful in recovering and 
identifying new meteorites in the past 10 years:

Media contact:
Grady Semmens
University of Calgary, media relations
Phone: (403) 220-7722
Cell: (403) 651-2515
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

And you may also try the Royal Alberta Museum. They have published a catalog on 
Canadian Meteorites in 1984 and I suppose they still continue  the national 
meteorite inventory:

http://www.geo.ucalgary.ca/cdnmeteorites/

For any general requests on meteorite related issues you may refer to the 
Geological Survey of Canada:

http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/meteor/index_e.php

I am sure our Canadian list members will be able to fill any gaps.

Best regards

Svend
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Hi all,

Can anyone point me in the direction of who is studying Canadian meteorites
these days? (i.e. university, museum, etc) I know there has been a lot of
activity there over the past few years and would like to know where to point
Canadians with potential meteorites.

Thanks,

Jeff Kuyken
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Re: [meteorite-list] Scalecube Family

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sorry, forgot the 2nd link

--
thanks Mike, 

that's quite interesting. They must have switched their reference scale 
somewhere in the late seventies. There are a number of later ANSMET photos from 
the eighties that already show 1cm cubes.

For example here with Mac Alpine Hills 88104 and MAC 88105:

http://www.meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/mac88105.htm

or here as early as 1981 with ALH 81005:

http://www.meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/alha81005.htm

Seems strange to me that they switched from inch to cm. That would make 
comparing of earlier and later documentation quite disturbing.

Thanks for answering & best regards

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Hello Svend,

NASA used the 1 inch cube in the Lunar Receiving Lab for photographic
reference of all Apollo lunar samples. At the time, it was referred to as a
'Scale Block.' I believe this is the only time the 1 inch cube was employed
anywhere in the world. In the LRL, centimeters would be referenced on the
specimen 'counter' only.

Here is a photo of the 1 inch cube in the LRL circa 1970:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/877141/LRL-scaleblock.jpg

The 1 inch cube was fabricated in a machine shop next to the LRL prior to
Apollo 11. Later, the vertical tick mark would be added. I believe they were
designed by the gentlemen who designed all of the LRL tools (I have his name
here somewhere).

It is unclear at what point the CM cubes were first employed, but I believe
it was around 1975-1977 when ANSMET began collecting meteorites from
Antarctica.

I believe the 1 inch LRL cubes are the first cubes ever produced.

Thanks for the question! 

Cheers,
 
Mike Bandli
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On November 7, 2007 Mike wrote:


>From left to right: Buhl 1cm Cube, Unknown 1cm Cube, NASA 'Scale Block' 1
inch Cube, Drake 1 inch Certified Cube, Drake 1cm Cube, Drake 1cm
prototype.<

Dear Mike, 
when or where did NASA use a 1 inch cube? I am quite sure all their
meteorite documentation use the metric sytem with 1 cm cubes.
Just curious.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Scalecube Family

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thanks Mike, 

that's quite interesting. They must have switched their reference scale 
somewhere in the late seventies. There are a number of later ANSMET photos from 
the eighties that already show 1cm cubes.

For example here with Mac Alpine Hills 88104 and MAC 88105:

http://www.meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/mac88105.htm

or here as early as 1981 with ALH 81005:

Seems strange to me that they switched from inch to cm. That would make 
comparing of earlier and later documentation a quite disturbing.

Thanks for answering & best regards

Svend

www.niger-meteorite-recon.de




Hello Svend,

NASA used the 1 inch cube in the Lunar Receiving Lab for photographic
reference of all Apollo lunar samples. At the time, it was referred to as a
'Scale Block.' I believe this is the only time the 1 inch cube was employed
anywhere in the world. In the LRL, centimeters would be referenced on the
specimen 'counter' only.

Here is a photo of the 1 inch cube in the LRL circa 1970:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/877141/LRL-scaleblock.jpg

The 1 inch cube was fabricated in a machine shop next to the LRL prior to
Apollo 11. Later, the vertical tick mark would be added. I believe they were
designed by the gentlemen who designed all of the LRL tools (I have his name
here somewhere).

It is unclear at what point the CM cubes were first employed, but I believe
it was around 1975-1977 when ANSMET began collecting meteorites from
Antarctica.

I believe the 1 inch LRL cubes are the first cubes ever produced.

Thanks for the question! 

Cheers,
 
Mike Bandli
www.Astro-Artifacts.com
 


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Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Scalecube Family

On November 7, 2007 Mike wrote:


>From left to right: Buhl 1cm Cube, Unknown 1cm Cube, NASA 'Scale Block' 1
inch Cube, Drake 1 inch Certified Cube, Drake 1cm Cube, Drake 1cm
prototype.<

Dear Mike, 
when or where did NASA use a 1 inch cube? I am quite sure all their
meteorite documentation use the metric sytem with 1 cm cubes.
Just curious.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Scalecube Family

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On November 7, 2007 Mike wrote:


>From left to right: Buhl 1cm Cube, Unknown 1cm Cube, NASA 'Scale Block' 1
inch Cube, Drake 1 inch Certified Cube, Drake 1cm Cube, Drake 1cm prototype.<

Dear Mike, 
when or where did NASA use a 1 inch cube? I am quite sure all their meteorite 
documentation use the metric sytem with 1 cm cubes.
Just curious.

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[meteorite-list] 34g Millbillillie and historic Texas fall - AD

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in order to refinance some past acquisitions that turned out to be much more 
cost-intensive than expected we would like to point you to a selection of 
meteorites currently uploaded for auction. 

Among them a glossy crusted 34gm Millbillilie which I really regret to let go. 
But I am sure someone alse will enjoy the pleasure of curating this specimen as 
much as I did.

The 11gm slice of the Kendleton meteorite comes with a large size reprint of 
"La Tribuna Illustrata" cover from May 21st 1939. The watercolored drawing done 
by artist Vittorio Pisani shows a Houston street scene whith a crowd terrified 
by the spectacular fireball of the Kendleton bolide traversing the sky. Both 
the contemporary magazine cover and the meteorite itself make a museum grade 
display unit: 

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwerffroenne

Thank you for your interest

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[meteorite-list] OT: Meteorite Recon will be travelling until October 15

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please excuse the off topic post. 

We will be travelling until October 15 and have only temporarily access to our 
emails, if at all. Thx for your patience.

best regards

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[meteorite-list] AD - Henbury 8.6KG Offers Over $1.20 Per Gram Considered.

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Hello List,

I'm putting up for sale (AGAIN) a beautiful Henbury 8.6kg thumb printed
museum piece with natural desert patina.

This specimen has full export permits from the Victorian Museum and not
the Western Australian Museum as I thought earlier.

Please email me your location for an estimate on shipping.

I will consider offers over $1.20 per gram. Please contact me off the list.

Item location, Perth Western Australia.

Please view the specimen at:
http://www.tektiteinc.com/henbury8600grams.html

Please also see my Tektite offerings on eBay:

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtektiteinc-dot-com

http://stores.ebay.com/Tektite-Inc

Cheers,
Desmond Leong
IMCA #2254
http://www.TektiteInc.com

An Australian working in the Philippines...

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