Re: [meteorite-list] FWD: Kenya robbery notes - from Michael Farmer

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Mike,

First, with this new info, even more glad you ( and Greg ) are home safely.

And second, I think this email is probably the best one you have ever sent to 
the List. Great sentiment from you, and VERY good advice for all of us. The 
points you make are very intelligent and well thought out. I know I will 
definitely keep them in mind on any future hunts! Your advice might very well 
and literally help keep someone of us from being robbed/hurt/killed in the 
future.
Thanks for sending it.
Best,
Robert Woolard

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On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:17 PM, Art  wrote:

> - Forwarded Message -
> From: Michael Farmer 
> To: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" 
> 
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 3:08 PM
> Subject: Kenya robbery notes
> 
> I am overwhealmed with the public and private support I have recieved
> by email and phone since returning home from Kenya.
> I am glad to let everyone know that I am OK, scared, a little jumpy
> perhaps, not interested in any risky adventures for a while.
> The robbery was planned from the start, clearly the lure of more
> meteorites was used to get me back to Kenya, and upon further
> contemplation, I am pretty sure that Greg Hupe and I likely escaped
> another robbery attempt, we were also lured far out into the bush by a
> guy on a motorcycle, and before we arrived at the "house where a stone
> landed", I got mad and decided that we were outside the strewnfield
> and told my driver to turn around, which he did without question.
> Stanley, the guy who worked for me and who set up the meeting that led
> to the robbery was in the car at that time, he said nothing about
> turning around and never mentioned that stone again. I suspect we were
> being led to an ambush at that time and by luck evaded the robbery.
> This time they led me toward the strewnfield, I could see Mwana Wikio
> village and the greenhouses at Kenya Cuttings, so I thought nothing of
> where we were going until it was too late. I think he learned that I
> would not likely allow being led so far away from the known area.
> I do not hate the people of Kenya, it is a wonderful country and
> amazing people, but violence is very common there and I got a taste of
> it up close and personal. I have been resting since returning home,
> trying to sleep, a little sick. Insurance will cover some of my
> material losses, the rest gets chalked up to cheap experience and
> serious future planning with meteorite chases. I advise everyone that
> to get too comfortable anywhere in the world is a mistake you can't
> afford to make. Danger is always there ready to snatch those who are
> off their guard. Remember that if they really have a stone to sell,
> they WILL come to you to sell it. If they demand you come to them,
> WALK AWAY, ALWAYS set the meeting on your terms in a very public
> place. Had I done that, they could never have carried out the attack.
> 
> I suggest you also do the following anytime you are in the third
> world, I have already used this tactic to deter kidnapping or robbery
> and will go further from now on.
> 
> #1, ALWAYS take a photo of the car you are hiring and the driver
> before you leave, even the drivers ID, if they are legit, they will
> not complain about the security procedure, send it to someone back
> home by text or email, this shows the driver that you have already
> given their name and photo and car description/plate to family or
> friends, a must to locate you should you dissapear. This will deter
> the driver from setting you up as the police have a firm place to
> start and a prime suspect should something happen to you.
> 
> #2. from now on I will take a photo of anyone who goes with me, and
> tell them up from that in this situation that if a robbery is planned,
> their picture is already sent out so they will be caught. I could have
> done that this time, the guy who led us to the ambush location was in
> my car for 30 minutes. Again, with smart phones these days, can be
> done in a second, and a great deterrent to someone who does not want
> to be captured after such a thing, likely they would abandon the
> attemp at that point. anyone who has not upgraded to an international
> smart phone should get with the times and spend the money if you plan
> to go into dangerous places.  Invest in your safety, you will never
> regret it when you need it.
> 
> #3, again, NEVER let them lead you, ALWAYS maintain control of the
> situation by forcing them to meet you on your terms, in a public/safe
> secure place. If they have something to sell, they will bring it to
> you. If they choose the battlefield, time and place, you have already
> lost.
> 
> #4, do not trust the police. Many of these places are known for police
> corruption. They were for sure involved in this robbery.
> 
> #5, do not take anything you dont want to lose, I lost my watch,
> $2000, which should never have been taken to Kenya, a  $20 Casio is on
> my shopping list for African trips from now on! Th

Re: [meteorite-list] CONCEPTION JUNCTION, MISSOURI PALLASITE - AD/test

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Way to go, Karl, Dave, and Robert! That's great. A big congrats to you guys as 
well!
Robert Woolard

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On Aug 27, 2011, at 5:46 AM, Karl Aston  wrote:

> Dear List,
> 
> Dave Gheesling, Robert Ward and I have introduced a new pallasite to
> the meteorite community:
> Conception Junction, Missouri.
> Information about North America's 20th pallasite can be found here:
> 
> www.conceptionjunctionpallasite.com
> 
> I was unable to post earlier due to incorrect email settings and I am
> reposting this link as a test.
> 
> Thanks... and enjoy this beautiful meteorite !!
> Karl Aston
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Re: [meteorite-list] Kenya meteorite

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A great big CONGRATS to you guys for your hard work and your success!!!  Mike 
had shared the news from his 1st trip with me earlier, but I am  just now able 
to hear about the finds from "trip 2" as I too am out of the country and have 
been without Internet access for the last few days. ( Not meteorite hunting 
this time. :-)

Anyway, like I said, congrats on another great successful recovery, Mike! 
Thanks for sharing the story with us all.

Robert Woolard

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On Aug 24, 2011, at 9:28 AM, Michael Farmer  wrote:

> A little more background on the fall, 
> 
> First want to thank Greg Hupe who went with me for trip #2 less than a week 
> after trip one. I wanted to get more money, get the first stones home safe 
> and in the lab and back to Kenya. I had to cancel another trip planned for 
> months with Greg, so only proper thing to do was invite him. He was most 
> accomodating of the rapid change in continents we were going to visit when he 
> saw the stones I got from the first trip.
> 
> Congrats to Robert Ward who also recovered a stone in the field, saving it 
> from sure destruction under tropical rains. 
> 
> 
> We had a lot of fun, we also worked our asses off, dawn to dark, endless 
> hours of every day stuck in traffic jams just to reach the strewnfield. 
> Cobras, yes, I am not kidding, Greg had close encounter with a Cobra that 
> stood up and scared one of our workers nearly to death, he ran from the 
> field, Greg went to see it but it went down a hole before he saw it. Place 
> crawling with snakes, I was of course in shorts:) so after the worker came 
> screaming to the car, I left the field myself for safer quarters. 
> 
> The people were nice, the secret police found us, threatened us, got to the 
> point and demanded their cut of the payday to allow us to work. The usual in 
> Africa, another day, another shilling. 
> 
> I paid great money to the locals, either for stones or for workers and 
> supervisors to monitor the workers, money none of them could refuse, most of 
> them got a year or years of salary for stone worthless to them, changed their 
> lives. For example the woman who sold me the 3.5 kg stone bought cows and 
> pigs, went back to give her photos I promised her, she told me she invested 
> some of the money in livestock, she bought 4 piglets and told me in a year 
> she would have 20 pigs. she could not afford a single pig before that 
> meteorite fell and like a gift from heaven, she got more money than she had 
> ever seen in her life. I will not sell it. 
> 
> More than one month after the fall, hundreds of deperately poor people 
> searching, 11.8 kg has been found plus the ~2.5 kg original mass. 
> I thought more would be found, but not so easy. 
> 
> I flew 39,224 miles, spent more than $28,000 on expenses, went on safari, saw 
> things I have never seen, and recovered a meteorite for science and 
> collectors alike. 
> 
> Hopefully this is a good thing, but sadly I am sure some will try to destroy 
> my work. 
> Thanks for the support from those who like what I do to get you the things in 
> your collections. 
> 
> Trying to work on a webpage, but my computer will have none of it, so giving 
> up for the day. Will try again tomorrow. 
> Michael Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] February issue of Meteorite just arrived

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Hi Richard,
Thanks for the post. I know what you mean, as my copy is yet to arrive. Your
news gives me hope that mine will show up any day now!
Best wishes,
Robert Woolard 

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On Mar 24, 2011, at 7:06 PM, Richard Kowalski  wrote:

> The February 2011 issue of Meteorite Magazine just arrived in my mailbox. 
> Looks like an interesting issue.
> 
> I get the nagging feeling everyone else got theirs many weeks ago though.
> 
> --
> Richard Kowalski
> Full Moon Photography
> IMCA #1081
> 
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[meteorite-list] Welcome home

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I had a long talk with Mike today. It was pretty deep and very interesting. I 
don't think that he would mind me relaying that he said this "experience" has 
given him a new perspective on essentially everything.I think we will see a 
difference in how Mike reacts to especially "the little things in life".
Best,
Robert Woolard

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Re: [meteorite-list] What's Hitting Earth?

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Hi Mike,

I actually made 2 posts with 2 different links to this story exactly 22 hours 
ago ( see the List archives). They DO show up in the List archives, and I got 
the email as a subscriber to the List. But I thought it was very strange that 
NOBODY replied or talked about it all day today. I thought it would generate a 
good discussion. So how about other members? Did it go thru or was something 
weird going on, and even though it shows up in the archives, it wasn't visible 
to the List members?
Thanks,
Robert

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On Mar 1, 2011, at 9:02 PM, Michael Gilmer  wrote:

> Hi Robert, Ron and List,
> 
> I never saw your previous post about this Robert.  It was never
> delivered to me.  I wonder if anyone else on the list saw it, or was
> it some kind of fluke?
> 
> So, some of this camera network is online now?
> 
> And more importantly, how is the data going to be shared?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> MikeG
> 
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> 
> 
> On 3/1/11, meteoritefin...@yahoo.com  wrote:
>> Yeah, Ron, like you, I thought this was newsworthy and I posted this to the
>> List about  20 hrs ago. But no discussion here at all since then. Strange.
>> Robert Woolard
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Ron Baalke  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/01mar_meteornetwork/
>>> 
>>> What's Hitting Earth?
>>> NASA Science News
>>> 
>>> March 1, 2011: Every day about 100 tons of meteoroids -- fragments of
>>> dust and gravel and sometimes even big rocks - enter the Earth's
>>> atmosphere. Stand out under the stars for more than a half an hour on a
>>> clear night and you'll likely see a few of the meteors produced by the
>>> onslaught. But where does all this stuff come from? Surprisingly, the
>>> answer is not well known.
>>> 
>>> Now NASA is deploying a network of smart cameras across the United
>>> States to answer the question, 'What's Hitting Earth?'
>>> 
>>> Did that meteor you saw blazing through the sky last night come from the
>>> asteroid belt? Was it created in a comet's death throes? Or was it a
>>> piece of space junk meeting a fiery demise?
>>> 
>>> "When I get to work each morning and power up my computer, there's an
>>> email waiting with answers," says William Cooke, head of NASA's
>>> Meteoroid Environment Office. "And I don't have to lift a finger, except
>>> to click my mouse button."
>>> 
>>> Groups of smart cameras in the new meteor network triangulate the
>>> fireballs' paths, and special software^1 uses the data to compute their
>>> orbits and email Cooke his morning message.
>>> 
>>> "If someone calls me and asks 'What was that?' I'll be able to tell
>>> them. We'll have a record of every big meteoroid that enters the
>>> atmosphere over the certain parts of the U.S. Nothing will burn up in
>>> those skies without me knowing about it!"
>>> 
>>> In other U.S. meteor networks, someone has to manually look at all the
>>> cameras' data and calculate the orbits - a painstaking process.
>>> 
>>> "With our network, our computers do it for us - and fast," says Cooke.
>>> 
>>> The network's first three cameras, each about the size of a gumball
>>> machine, are already up and running. Cooke's team will soon have 15
>>> cameras deployed east of the Mississippi River, with plans to expand
>>> nationwide^2 . Cooke is actively seeking schools, science centers, and
>>> planetaria willing to host his cameras. Criteria are listed in the notes
>>> at the end of this story.
>>> 
>>> In addition to tracking fireballs and their orbits, Cooke's system gives
>>> him other valuable information.
>>> 
>>> "It provides data on meteor speed as a function of size - and this is
>>> critical to calibrating the models we use in designing spacecraft."
>>> 
>>> Meteorite hunters will reap benefits too. By determining a bright
>>> fireball's trajectory through the atmosphere, the network's software can
>>> calculate whether it will plunge to Earth and pinpoint the impact
>>> location fairly precisely.
>>> 
>>> "And when we collect the meteorite chunks, we'll know their source. I
>>> could be holding a piece of Vesta in my hand.^3 It would be like a free
>>> sample return mission!"
>>> 
>>> Opportunities like that, however, will be rare. "Most meteorites fall in
>>> the ocean, lakes, forests, farmer's fields, or the Antarctic," says
>>> Rhiannon Blaauw, who assists Cooke. "And the majority of those
>>> meteorites will never be found. But our system will help us track down
>>> more of them."
>>> 
>>> All cameras in th

Re: [meteorite-list] What's Hitting Earth?

[meteoritefinder]

Yeah, Ron, like you, I thought this was newsworthy and I posted this to the 
List about  20 hrs ago. But no discussion here at all since then. Strange.
Robert Woolard

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On Mar 1, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Ron Baalke  wrote:

> 
> http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/01mar_meteornetwork/
> 
> What's Hitting Earth?
> NASA Science News
> 
> March 1, 2011: Every day about 100 tons of meteoroids -- fragments of
> dust and gravel and sometimes even big rocks - enter the Earth's
> atmosphere. Stand out under the stars for more than a half an hour on a
> clear night and you'll likely see a few of the meteors produced by the
> onslaught. But where does all this stuff come from? Surprisingly, the
> answer is not well known.
> 
> Now NASA is deploying a network of smart cameras across the United
> States to answer the question, 'What's Hitting Earth?'
> 
> Did that meteor you saw blazing through the sky last night come from the
> asteroid belt? Was it created in a comet's death throes? Or was it a
> piece of space junk meeting a fiery demise?
> 
> "When I get to work each morning and power up my computer, there's an
> email waiting with answers," says William Cooke, head of NASA's
> Meteoroid Environment Office. "And I don't have to lift a finger, except
> to click my mouse button."
> 
> Groups of smart cameras in the new meteor network triangulate the
> fireballs' paths, and special software^1 uses the data to compute their
> orbits and email Cooke his morning message.
> 
> "If someone calls me and asks 'What was that?' I'll be able to tell
> them. We'll have a record of every big meteoroid that enters the
> atmosphere over the certain parts of the U.S. Nothing will burn up in
> those skies without me knowing about it!"
> 
> In other U.S. meteor networks, someone has to manually look at all the
> cameras' data and calculate the orbits - a painstaking process.
> 
> "With our network, our computers do it for us - and fast," says Cooke.
> 
> The network's first three cameras, each about the size of a gumball
> machine, are already up and running. Cooke's team will soon have 15
> cameras deployed east of the Mississippi River, with plans to expand
> nationwide^2 . Cooke is actively seeking schools, science centers, and
> planetaria willing to host his cameras. Criteria are listed in the notes
> at the end of this story.
> 
> In addition to tracking fireballs and their orbits, Cooke's system gives
> him other valuable information.
> 
> "It provides data on meteor speed as a function of size - and this is
> critical to calibrating the models we use in designing spacecraft."
> 
> Meteorite hunters will reap benefits too. By determining a bright
> fireball's trajectory through the atmosphere, the network's software can
> calculate whether it will plunge to Earth and pinpoint the impact
> location fairly precisely.
> 
> "And when we collect the meteorite chunks, we'll know their source. I
> could be holding a piece of Vesta in my hand.^3 It would be like a free
> sample return mission!"
> 
> Opportunities like that, however, will be rare. "Most meteorites fall in
> the ocean, lakes, forests, farmer's fields, or the Antarctic," says
> Rhiannon Blaauw, who assists Cooke. "And the majority of those
> meteorites will never be found. But our system will help us track down
> more of them."
> 
> All cameras in the network send their fireball information to Cooke and
> to a public website, fireballs.ndc.nasa.gov. Teachers can contact Cooke
> at william.j.co...@nasa.gov to request teacher workshop slides
> containing suggestions for classroom use of the data. Students can learn
> to plot fireball orbits and speeds, where the objects hit the ground,
> how high in the atmosphere the fireballs burn up, etc.
> 
> Cooke gives this advice to students and others who want to try meteor
> watching on their own:
> 
> "Go out on a clear night, lie flat on your back, and look straight up.
> It will take 30 to 40 minutes for your eyes to become light adapted, so
> be patient. By looking straight up, you may catch meteor streaks with
> your peripheral vision too. You don't need any special equipment -- just
> your eyes."
> 
> One more thing -- don't forget to check the website
>  to find out what you saw!
> 
> 
> Author: Dauna Coulter
> Editor: Dr. Tony Phillips
> Credit: Science@NASA
> 
> *More Information*
> 
> (1) The smart meteor network uses ASGARD (All Sky and Guided Automatic
> Realtime Detection) software, developed at the University of Western
> Ontario with both NASA and Canadian funding, to process the information
> and perform the triangulation needed to determine the orbits and origins
> of the fireballs. The Southern Ontario Meteor Network, or SOMN, composed
> of seven cameras, also uses the ASGARD system.
> 
> (2) The cameras will be deployed in clusters of 5. One group will be
> spread over the Southeast US, another in the Ohio and Kentucky area (to
> overlap with the

[meteorite-list] More on fireball camera for US

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List,

Here is another link for info on the new US fireball camera system.

http://fireballs.ndc.nasa.gov

Robert Woolard

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[meteorite-list] Sounds very interesting

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List ,
I didn't know if the first attempt to send
this worked.  Forgive this repeat post if it did.

Check out this item from Spaceweather. Part of the text reads:

"Meteorite hunters will benefit, too..."


http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/01mar_meteornetwork/?wwparam=1298958734


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Re: [meteorite-list] Huge Fireball: Possible First Meteorite Fall of 2011

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Yeah, sounded pretty impressive at first and was reported over a  huge area, 
but as others have noted, it was quite short, so ...

Robert Woolard


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On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Meteorites USA  wrote:

> UPDATE: New data added... This is a short duration event. Current public 
> video sucks, and no radar yet. Over 30 sightings on AMS. I've added a map, 
> and the Google Earth KMZ file for download for those who want to try this 
> one. 
> http://www.meteoritesusa.com/meteorite-news/huge-fireball-seen-across-6-states/
> 
> Enjoy...
> 
> Regards,
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/12/2011 12:20 AM, Meteorites USA wrote:
>> You know, sometimes it's just too good to be true... What are the chances a 
>> meteorite falls on 1/11/11 just a mere couple weeks before the Tucson show? 
>> ;)
>> 
>> We might have our first meteorite fall of 2011. Too many reports of 
>> fragmentation and sonic booms for it not to be. Looks like this might be the 
>> real deal.
>> 
>> Here's some quotes from the articles:
>> 
>> "A sonic boom was heard as far north as Western North Carolina..."
>> 
>> "...Copiah County Emergency Management Director Randle Drane said residents 
>> who saw the light and heard a subsequent boom called to report what they had 
>> seen or heard. The majority of those who heard the boom were near the town 
>> of Hopewell just southeast of Crystal Springs"
>> 
>> "...Little Rock, Ark. Around 8:30 p.m. we began receiving calls about a 
>> bright flash of light and a boom..."
>> 
>> "...Around 9 PM Tuesday, the Pulaski County Sheriff's Office received 
>> several calls of what looked like balls of fire falling from the sky"
>> 
>> "...According to affiliate KFSM, the meteor was also sighted in Greenwood, 
>> Jonesboro, Jackson, Miss., Biloxi, Miss., and the Florida Panhandle"
>> 
>> Reports still coming in...
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Eric Wichman
>> Meteorites USA
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Re: [meteorite-list] Asian falls

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Hi Jeff,
Great job! Thanks for the post pointing out your work with the fall data. 
Everybody enjoys reading stats, especially when so well organized and presented 
as you have done. I'd like to print out a copy and include it as part of my 
"library", if that would be OK with you. ( Don't think you'll mind, but just 
wanted to ask to be sure. )
Thanks again for your work,
Robert Woolard

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> List,
> 
> I've been maintaining the Wikipedia page on meteorites fall statistics for a 
> number of years:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteorite_fall_statistics
> 
> On this page is a table showing the number of falls by continent, divided 
> into 20-year intervals.  We are now halfway through the 2001-2020 interval, 
> and fall rates in most places are about what you'd expect based on the 
> previous 40 years.  However, Asian falls are way down... there have been 13 
> published in MetBull for the last 10 years, around half the number you might 
> expect.  Anybody care to speculate why this is?
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Happy Holidays to all

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Carl,

Very clever and funny post. Loved it!

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,
Robert Woolard


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> To my Liberal listee Friends:
> 
> Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an 
> environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low-stress, non-addictive, 
> sustainable, gender-neutral, non-global warming, celebration of the winter 
> solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the 
> religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rare Arizona Meteorite Find

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Congrats on the news, Ruben! Great find!

Sincerely,
Robert Woolard

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> Hi all,
> 
> The classification of my rare Arizona Meteorite find has just been
> completed. Many will remember that a year ago we had fun guessing as
> to what it could be. Well, now we know. If memory serves correct, I
> think only Adam Hupe was right.
> 
> Check it out here:
> http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm
> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt

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Hi Abe,
Thanks for posting your great story, and congrats on such a nice "first find"!
And having your son there with you makes it all the better. In fact, about the 
only way to top THAT feeling is when YOU'RE watching him find HIS first one!  I 
had the great joy of that at the Ash Creek fall. ( I also got to see my wife 
find her first one there, too. ) 

Good luck on future hunts, and here's hoping your son TOPS yours!

Sincerely,
Robert Woolard


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On Nov 19, 2010, at 5:26 PM, "Guenther"  wrote:

> Here is a short story about a first time meteorite hunting experience.
> 
> I live in an area of Canada that has not yielded any meteorites to speak of
> so I knew I needed to look at hotter, dryer areas for the best chance at a
> successful first trip. I did over a year of research and planning before I
> finally made my decision where to go. I read countless success stories and
> watched a lot of meteorite hunting shows and videos on YouTube before
> narrowing my search. Almost overwhelmed at all the places I could try, a few
> weeks before the much awaited trip I decided on Nevada. Besides the cheap
> airfare to Vegas, there were lots of success stories near Vegas. I had a few
> places mapped out in Nevada, Arizona and California that I wanted to hunt
> over the 9 day trip. After finding nothing in 5 days of my lone journey it
> was time to pick up my son who flew in to join me for the final 4 days.
> Considering this was his first time too, I am sure he wasn't too confident
> since his dad hadn't found anything yet. But he and I both knew we were
> saving the best place for last! This was the part of the trip we were both
> anticipating because our destination several hours away would be to a dry
> lake bed that we knew had yielded some meteorites just recently. Since it
> was supposed to be a secret location, we were confident that if there were
> still any meteorites left, we would find some.
> 
> It rained a lot on the way so we were concerned about how bad it might be on
> the lake bed. We arrived at the dry lake area near dark so all we wanted to
> do the first day was figure out how to get to the lake since there were no
> clear roads to access it. We could hardly wait to get out there the next
> morning bright and early. We finally made it to the lake bed at about 9:00am
> after a muddy trek and nearly 2 hours travel from the motel. The rain had
> definitely made it slippery but we were surprises that it wasn't actually
> too bad on the lake bed itself. The first day didn't yield anything special
> except a really fun time. My son found a complete dried out coyote skull
> that he kept and an arrow head. We also found a several rocks that drew our
> magnets but they were obviously not meteorites because of deep, sharp
> cavities and what we would soon discover over the next couple of days, this
> was a common rock in the area. We usually parked and then walked for a few
> hours at a time and when we started to get tired, we would just drive the
> truck during our rests. It was during one of these drives that I happen to
> look to my left and noticed what I thought was another cow patty. I stopped
> and the first thing I did when I got out was kick it. It didn't move. I
> don't remember what I said but my son knew that I was excited about
> something. I picked it up and it felt like 5 pounds. It was unusually heavy
> compared to the other rocks. I had no doubt it would draw the magnet but it
> was surprising to see it stick so hard. This was the last hour of the last
> day of the trip and all we could think is how lucky we had been to find our
> first meteorite and to top it off, one so big!
> 
> When we got home I still thought that we had been on the right lake bed. I
> just couldn't wait to tell everyone about our success! I looked up someone
> who has excellent knowledge of meteorites and emailed him the pictures. He
> wasn't quite convinced and so he had me take some more pictures. To my
> delight, he emailed me back a "congratulations".  It was only after doing
> some more research about the lake bed that I realized we were 100 miles away
> from the lake bed we had researched. In a way I am sort of glad we went to
> the wrong lake bed but I'm happy we didn't know at the time. I don't know if
> we discovered a new meteorite fall but it is fun to think we did. Ignorance
> is bliss.
> 
> A few pictures: http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM1.jpg,
> http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM2.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM3.jpg,
> http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM4.jpg.
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - October 28, 2010

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Way to go, Greg. Great looking find...by a great meteorite hunter!
And as always, thanks Michael for posting the pics.
Best wishes,
Robert Woolard


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Re: [meteorite-list] Well, it's official Yelland Dry lake Bed

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Congrats, Sonny. Neat record to hold. Best of luck in all future hunts.
Robert Woolard

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On Oct 27, 2010, at 11:26 AM, wahlpe...@aol.com wrote:

> Hi List,
> 
> 
> I just wanted to share the news that Yelland Dry Lake has been approved as 
> the official name for the meteorites I discovered in 2007. This is the 
> largest known TKW of chondritic material recovered from one meteorite here in 
> Nevada. The TKW is 76 kg's, it is classified as an H4. This is the lake bed 
> where the Meteorite Men episode was filmed last year. I revisited the lake 
> last month with a couple of friends and recovered  several  more pieces.
> I have noticed over the past few months that a few list members have 
> recovered up to 5 more kilo's from the same lake bed.  Way to go guys, keep 
> up the good work! It would be nice to see many people enjoy this area as the 
> many that have been able to enjoy Gold Basin ( Thanks to Jim, John and Twink).
> 
> I received an email early last year from a certain list member that indicated 
> this lake bed was located by Strawberry Point near Eureka Nv.,  with  other 
> inaccurate information.  This lake bed is actually closer to Ely, Nevada and 
> is in an area that I have spent many years exploring. Hopefully someday he 
> will find his own strewn field and will be able to share his exciting news 
> with us all.
> 
> Anyone wishing to get additional information about the hunting area  please 
> contact me off list.
> 
> Happy Hunting!
> 
> Sonny
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - October 20, 2010

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Way to, Melodye!   Congrats on the nice find. And thanks, Michael 1 and 
Michael 2, for sending the post.

Best,
Robert Woolard

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Re: [meteorite-list] New radar post - I suspect that y'all are going to want to see this

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Marc,
Thanks for the great job and all the time you put in on this, not to mention 
the same on the Ash Creek and Mifflin falls. I guess only time will tell if any 
stones are recovered from this data, but EVEN if not, that won't be from lack 
of info from you. At least there is more of a chance now than before, due to 
you. And it was fun to "see" the excitement and enthusiasm you felt from 
realizing from the data as it came together that there probably ARE meteorites 
on the ground there.
I salute your work and although I have been slow to "get around to" 
contributing to your effort, I'm about to rectify that oversight today.
Please do keep up the good job. I am certain that meteorites, somewhere, 
someday, WILL be found directly because of your ( and also Rob's ) continuing 
radar work!
Sincerely,
Robert Woolard


On Sep 24, 2010, at 2:59 AM, Marc Fries  wrote:

> Howdy all,
> 
>I'm quite pleased with this one.  Looks like a very nice meteorite fall 
> from recent radar data archives:
> 
> http://radarmeteorites.wordpress.com/2010/09/24/jacksonville-il-05-feb-07-0144-utc/
> 
> Enjoy!
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite magazine

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Larry and Nancy,

Thanks so much to both of you for all the hard work and the great job you' ve
done on the magazine. And a special, personal thank you for the help you have 
given me with my past articles.(  I'm sorry for all those endless revisions 
and emails! )

Very best wishes,
Robert Woolard

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> ...
> That said, Nancy and I must now say good-bye to Meteorite magazine. We are
> doing this for both personal and professional 
> 
> Larry and Nancy Lebofsky
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Re: [meteorite-list] West trip report

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Rob and List, 

    Thanks a lot Rob for putting this report together for us all. Great job!  
It was a lot of fun to re-live the memories of "The Hunt at West".

I also enjoyed yours and Ruben's, and Doug's, articles in the current issue 
of Meteorite. The mix of different angles and perspectives from multiple 
authors for the whole event made for a very interesting read. A special thanks 
to Larry and Nancy, too, for choosing to include several different takes on the 
fall, all in the same issue. 

( I have to add here that I have since learned that our contribution should 
have given more credit to Doug, Dima and Sergey for their work in also using 
the Doppler radar info just as we did to help pinpoint the fall area.) 

  Best wishes to all,
   Robert Woolard   

--- On Sun, 6/21/09, Rob Wesel  wrote:

> From: Rob Wesel 
> Subject: [meteorite-list] West trip report finally up
> To: "Meteorite List" 
> Date: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 3:07 AM
> Happy Father's day to all you/us
> dads
> 
> It's been quite a while since West but finally putting
> things together has brought it back like yesterday for me.
>> 
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[meteorite-list] " Superbolide " from 5-31-09

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Hello List,
  
  If you haven't already read about this "superbolide" from 5-31-09, you might 
find it interesting. 

   This is from the spaceweather web site.  They have two links. One shows a 
VERY short movie of the event, and the other is a link for more info.   

 " BLINDING FLASH: On May 31st, evening sky watchers in northern Poland were 
temporarily blinded by a sudden flash of light brighter than the full Moon. An 
automated camera in the town of Gniewowo captured this snapshot of the 
"un-night" sky:

What happened? A meteoroid of unknown origin hit Earth's atmosphere and 
exploded. "It was a huge fireball, probably brighter than magnitude -13," 
reports Gniewowo resident Przemyslaw Zoladek. "The explosion occured at 20:48 
UT and was observed by many casual witnesses and at least two Polish Fireball 
Network video stations." No one knows if fragments of the object reached the 
ground. "

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Re: [meteorite-list] Richard Norton

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Dear Dorothy, and List,

  It was with tremendous, heartfelt sorrow that I read the email of Richard's 
passing. But what a wonderful outpouring of respect for Richard and you from 
our members, proof of all the many lives the both of you have touched and 
enriched. He truly was a well loved and respected, gem of a man. I count myself 
as being very lucky to have had the times (be they all-too-brief) spent in 
talking with you both. I will never forget the thrill that Richard gave me the 
day that he contacted me and asked if he could use a couple of my photos in his 
magnificent Encyclopedia of Meteorites. You both have been very kind to me, and 
I will never forget either of you.

 You and Richard will be in my family's prayers. 

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[meteorite-list] Ash Creek (West) "Silvery-Blue Marks" Revisited

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Hello All,

  You might recall the meteorite that I had mentioned before that had the very 
prominent "silvery-blue markings". Michael Johnson was kind enough to host the 
photo here:

   http://www.rocksfromspace.org/West-markings.html


   At the time, I proposed that it might perhaps be a "melt spray" from some 
type of inclusion in the stone. That does seem to be the predominant opinion 
according to postings from those that have chimed in with their thoughts 
(thanks to all of you!). Another thought offered by a researcher, who was going 
on nothing more than my description and did not have the benefit of seeing the 
specimen in person, was that it might simply be areas where the original fusion 
crust was somehow "scratched" off, perhaps upon landing. I think I can now put 
this latter theory to rest.  It is definitely NOT due to "scratched off" fusion 
crust.

  A cancer surgeon friend of mine here in Little Rock has a very nice compound 
microscope at his home that he uses to examine archaeological artifacts ( a 
hobby that I share with him as well). I finally got around to visiting him 
tonight, and he graciously allowed me to use his scope to view these markings. 
With the admitted assurance that I am no expert in this, I still think I can 
say with 100% accuracy that the marks are DEFINITELY some type of melt spray. 
Under magnification, the marks look almost like paint that has run or been 
blown across the surface of the meteorite. There are countless "craters" or 
vesicles that are filled with the colored material. Then there are areas at the 
end of some of the marks where the melted, flowing spray collected into thicker 
little blobs, just as you would expect. 

  These marks remind me very much of what it looks like when I have tried on a 
few occasions to use a leaf blower to dry up or blow away small puddles on 
water that dripped off of our cars onto the garage floor after a rain. The 
rainwater flows out into myriad array of streaks, with thicker "blobs" of water 
at the end of each of the streaks. I know that's not tremendously scientific 
sounding, but if any of you have ever done the same, you'll know what I mean. 
And I think that is essentially what happened on the meteorite. Some 
"inclusion" melted right at the surface, and the liquid was blown and scattered 
out into streaks, just like the leaf blower does to the rainwater on the garage 
floor. 

   I feel very confident that this is what caused the streaks on the stone. Now 
I think the question is --- WHAT mineral inclusion produces a 
"silvery-blue" liquid when melted  I know some have suggested troilite 
(iron sulphide). That may very well be right, but does anyone know if that 
would be this color?? Or would it more of a "bronze" color, as the mineral 
itself is??  Once again, I do not want to make any wild claims here, but copper 
sulfate is blue. With that said, I also have to add that even though Ash Creek 
(West) has been proven to contain copper, I find it hard to believe that there 
would be a big enough "blob" of it to produce this large of an area of spray. 
But then again, most meteorites do not exhibit these markings, and several from 
this fall do. Also, IF ( and I said  " IF " ) this meteorite also is shown to 
have halite crystals, would they by any chance produce these marks upon 
melting

  Finally, I have to admit I'm pretty intrigued by these markings. I've never 
seen anything like them before, but that's not saying a lot. BUT when 
Robert Haag says HE has never seen anything like this, that does seem to make 
it pretty unique.  Some other members have already said earlier that they have 
seen these marks on a few of their specimens. Have any additional members out 
there found them on any of their stones?   

  If anyone has any further ideas on this, I'd love to hear them. And thanks 
again to those of you who responded earlier. 

  Sincerely,
  Robert Woolard   

  

   













  
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[meteorite-list] VA-MD sighting

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Thanks to Greg Redfern for updating us all on the true nature of the VA-MD 
sighting! Guess we can all quit packing for a trip there.  ;-)

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[meteorite-list] Hampton Fireball- "news" video link

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Hello List,

   Well, looks like we should have a pretty good idea where any meteorites 
might have landed. I mean, after all, the fireball was only " 5 FEET !! " above 
the house of this woman's mother, AND--- it was only going "60--70" miles per 
hour!!  Couldn't have gone TOO much farther, right?  ;-)  Another classic case 
of how little the general public understands the dynamics of a meteor, and how 
difficult it is to determine how far away a bright light at night might truly 
be. 

 
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?
rn=4226712&cl=12727172&src=news

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[meteorite-list] Test #2- sorry, but MAYBE fixed now??

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Test #2 to see if this goes to the list, and if I can see it without having to 
check the Archives.  Sorry if everyone else is getting these, but I'm hoping I 
have corrected any problems. 

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[meteorite-list] Test- and if works, Thanks to Mike for the help!

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  Testing to see if this goes to the list, and if I can see it without having 
to check the Archives. If so, then a BIG thanks to Mike for the suggestion to 
fix the problem.

  It appears I did get too many met-list bounce backs and my seting DID switch 
to "Disabled". I enabled it so hopefully it is fixed now.

   Robert

  



  
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