[meteorite-list] Moss, Norway meteorite laws and news

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Hi everyone, I am in Chigcago, on my way home after a travel day from hell with 
stops in the UK and the chaos at the airports there. My advice, AVOID THE UK at 
all costs right now. Pretty much strip searches, plastic baggie with passport 
and money was all I could carry on, overflowing bins of goodies taken from 
people, thousands of bags on the ground sitting in the rain, endless lines and 
no-one seemed to have a clue what to do. 
My bags made is somehow, and I now have the Moss meteorites safely in my hands 
again, it was hard to sleep wondering if some airport lackey had deemed them as 
dangerous and tossed them in the incinerator!

Now on to this Norwegian article condemning myself and my fellow meteorite 
hunters. I am dissapointed in reading it, since I had a meeting with the people 
from the National museum regarding the laws and was told that I was welcome to 
take anything I found or bought, since Norway had no law against it. Now it 
seems, that while true, they did not want to cooperate hunting with me as they 
suggested, but rather were just gathering information to use in harrasing me. I 
searched for 8 days in Moss, and never once ran into a scientists, museum 
curator, or any other official out hunting meteorites in the forest, 
mosquito-infested bogs, or streets of Moss. I met the museum people at my hotel 
for two hours, then they promtly took a bus back to Oslo. I guess hunting 
meteorites is not their forte, just complaining about those of us who save them 
from destruction and preserve them. 
The piece that Morten Bilet and I found was in a parking area at a large 
factory. Many pieces had been run over and crushed into grey piles of dust by 
the time we discovered it and saved over 800 grams of extremely rare material 
from further destruction. Now I am called a thief for legally removing it from 
Norway. I have already submitted pieces for classification, and the thin 
sections are being made and we will have perhaps preliminary classification by 
the end of the month. I have museums around the world already slated for 
pieces, and collectors as well. There is enough material for both the museums 
in Norway, the scientific world, and the private collection community to share. 
I am proud of what I do, the risks I take, and the time and energy I spend 
chasing these falls. Until I see legions of scientists out there doing it 
beside me, I know who is the one who provides them with their study material, 
and who saves the meteorites from destruction or loss. If Morten and I had not 
found our specimen when we did, it would be 800 grams of grey mud right now, 
not a pristine meteorite already in the lab!
Michael Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] A new 676 g meteorite went through storage building in M...

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I think Strope got it right, it is over 3100.00 grams. Exaughsted from another 
day of Muonionalusta hunting. Out of 7 teams hunting today, there was only one 
10 kilogram meteorite found. This area is odd, some days are great, some 
produce nothing. 
Mike

 -- Original message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Jim or Sterling
> Jim guessed 3169g, and Sterling said 3000g.
> Now, which one is closest to the TKW?  You better check those weights  very 
> closely before you give anything away. But it is very nice of you to offer  a 
> piece of the Moss meteorite as a prize.   ;-)
> (I bet I'll hear from Jim!)
>  
> Anne Black
>  
>  
> In a message dated 8/10/2006 2:53:34 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> WOW, It looks like Jim Strope is the  winner! I doubt more will be found at 
> this point, almost a month after the fall.  The only hope is more roof damage 
> or whne the farmers cut their fields soon. I  guess I have to give Jim a nice 
> piece of my Moss meteorite since he outguessed  us all almost to the gram.
> Michael Farmer
> -- Original message  --
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > In a message dated  8/10/2006 1:21:35 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > I think Morten just cleared that up  Matteo, as  of
> > right now, just over 3 kilograms known.
> >  
> > Michael  Farmer
> >  -
> >  
> > Thank  you Mike.
> > But we will need something much more precise to be able to  declare a  
> winner.
> > Or, maybe there are more pieces out there that  haven't been found yet, and 
>  
> > we should wait a bit longer.
> >  As a reminder, here is the whole list. And No, you cannot change your mind 
>   
> > now!
> >  
> >  
> > Alex   Seidel  4242.42g  $142.42/g  
> > Andi   Gren$199.95/g  
> > Anne   Black1950.50g  
> >  Bill  2345.68g 
> > Darren  Garrison12345g 
> > Fred   Beroud 2006.07g 
> > Jim   Strope3169g 
> > Marcin   Cimala  .99g  $200/g  
> > Martin   Altmann11430g  $200/g   
> > Martin Horejsi2345.67g   $100-$500/g  
> > Mike  Farmer12500g  
> > Robert Matson   1600g 
> > Roman  Jirasek   22kg $10-25/g  
> > Sterling   Webb 3000g 
> > Susan   Patton   1789.50g  
> > Tracy   Latimer   2300g  
> > 
> 
> Anne M.  Black
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Re: [meteorite-list] A new 676 g meteorite went through storage building in M...

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WOW, It looks like Jim Strope is the winner! I doubt more will be found at this 
point, almost a month after the fall. The only hope is more roof damage or whne 
the farmers cut their fields soon. I guess I have to give Jim a nice piece of 
my Moss meteorite since he outguessed us all almost to the gram.
Michael Farmer
 -- Original message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> In a message dated 8/10/2006 1:21:35 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I think Morten just cleared that up Matteo, as  of
> right now, just over 3 kilograms known.
> 
> Michael  Farmer
> -
>  
> Thank you Mike.
> But we will need something much more precise to be able to declare a  winner.
> Or, maybe there are more pieces out there that haven't been found yet, and  
> we should wait a bit longer.
> As a reminder, here is the whole list. And No, you cannot change your mind  
> now!
>  
>  
> Alex  Seidel 4242.42g  $142.42/g  
> Andi  Gren   $199.95/g  
> Anne  Black1950.50g 
> Bill 2345.68g 
> Darren  Garrison   12345g 
> Fred  Beroud2006.07g 
> Jim  Strope   3169g 
> Marcin  Cimala .99g  $200/g  
> Martin  Altmann   11430g  $200/g  
> Martin Horejsi   2345.67g   $100-$500/g  
> Mike Farmer12500g 
> Robert Matson  1600g 
> Roman Jirasek  22kg$10-25/g  
> Sterling  Webb 3000g 
> Susan  Patton   1789.50g 
> Tracy  Latimer   2300g 
> 
> 
> Anne M.  Black
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Re: [meteorite-list] A new 676 g meteorite went through storage building in Moss

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Thanks Bjorn,
It was nice to meet you in Moss. 
I am glad to see the stone protected in the museum in Norway. They now have two 
perfect stones, I hope they dont take a hammer to one of them or cut one!
Michael Farmer
 -- Original message --
From: Bjorn Sorheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Just out in many newspaper websites etc in Norway:
> A 676 g CO meteorite was found after a roof started to leak following the
> first rains after the July 14th fall.
> A company was hired to find the reson for the leakage.
> 10 cm down in the roof  the cause of the leakage was found,
> another meteorite!
> This stone fits the stone found in Frode Johansens garden (752 g).
> It will today be donated to the Geological Museum at the University of Oslo
> by the company owning the storage building.
> This must be the first fall through a roof in Europe since Glanerbrug in
> April 1990. (Not since 1969 as stated in the norwegian article.)
> 
> 
> http://www.moss-avis.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060809/SISTENYTT/60809009
> 
> 
> Bjørn Sørheim,
> in Norway
> 
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[meteorite-list] Muonionalusta, Sweden Report

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Hi everyone, we finally got some internet access here in Sweden, for the last 
10 days I have been driving every other day to Finland to check emails, now I 
should have daily access until I leave for home. 
Well, today was my 8th day hunting, and I suppose you all saw the email that I 
found a 47 kilogram iron on my birthday, August 4th.  Since then, Robert Ward 
and I have been searching hard for days with no success. Well, today we changed 
that up a bit. I found a 25 kilogram regmaglypted piece after an hour of 
searching this afternoon. Robert then found an 8 kilogram piece a little later. 
Then he got a weak signal with the 2x2 meter coil and no signal with the 
Minelab, so we knew he had a deep one. We dug for nearly two hours in glacial 
till, removing large rocks of at least 40 and 50 kilos, then found the 
meteorite at 1.6 meter deep. We thought for sure it would be a large one, but 
alas, he found a beautiful 4 kilogram Muonionalusta shaped just like a shoe!
 Well, I have all of tomorrow to search, then Friday driving half the 
day to ship my pieces as air cargo, then back for an afternoon of hunting, then 
out of here on Saturday. Monday night I will be home at last, free from the 
knats and mosquitos that have surely sucked a pint or two of blood from me!
This has certainly been an interesting 3 weeks in the meteorite world.
Michael Farmer
Muonionalusta, Sweden
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Re: [meteorite-list] A new 676 g meteorite went through storage building in Moss

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What do you mean? I have been posting for a week that I have over 350 grams of 
this meteorite which will soon be for sale. Or do you mean the roof smasher 
piece? I for one, am glad that a stone of such beauty will remain intact, and 
not be smashed up for sale on ebay.
Michael Farmer
 -- Original message --
From: Michael L Blood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hi Bjorn & all,
> Great photo a little trouble reading the text
> I guess this means not one gram of this meteorite
> will be available to collectors.
> Michael
> 
> 
> on 8/9/06 7:00 AM, Bjorn Sorheim at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Just out in many newspaper websites etc in Norway:
> > A 676 g CO meteorite was found after a roof started to leak following the
> > first rains after the July 14th fall.
> > A company was hired to find the reson for the leakage.
> > 10 cm down in the roof  the cause of the leakage was found,
> > another meteorite!
> > This stone fits the stone found in Frode Johansens garden (752 g).
> > It will today be donated to the Geological Museum at the University of Oslo
> > by the company owning the storage building.
> > This must be the first fall through a roof in Europe since Glanerbrug in
> > April 1990. (Not since 1969 as stated in the norwegian article.)
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.moss-avis.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060809/SISTENYTT/60809009
> > 
> > 
> > Bjørn Sørheim,
> > in Norway
> > 
> > 
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[meteorite-list] WOW, all hell is breaking loose in meteorite world!

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Dang, what a note to see that a new fall has occured in India! I am now in 
Finland, on my way back to Sweden to hunt Muonionalusta. By this time tomorrow, 
I plan to have a pile of irons, a bag full of CC, and be making plans for India 
trip as well!
I have sent specimens of the Moss Norway fall to a top scientist in the USA to 
work on, so we might have an idea soon. I have many fragments as does Morten 
Bilet. It will be up for sale in a few weeks, but there is not much to offer as 
most fragments are small, around 1 or 2 grams, but we have some larger ones. I 
will likely be offering my larger pieces to Museums in trade.
I may well be back in Moss, Norway in a few days, but the Sweden trip was 
planned and we would have lost our plane tickets if we didnt go today.
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[meteorite-list] Norway CO3 Fall

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Time for another meteorite report from Norway. 
Well, we lost one team member as Bob Haag bugged out and flew back to Tucson 
today. We have been wlaking, hiking, swimming, and driving all over the fall 
area with still no luck.  This area is awful for meteorite hunting. We know 
another piece was found but no information. 
We have a feature article coming out tomorrow in the regional newspaper, and 
Haag, Karl, Ward, and myself were on the Norway national news last night. It 
should drum up some information. The locals are also beggining to come home 
from vacations, so I expect some more homes and gardens were hit by falling 
stars!
I expect so spend until Tuesday here, then it is on to Sweden for some serious 
Muonionalusta digging! So as it stands, the newest meteorite fall is a tough 
nut to crack and not something that will be flooding the market anytime soon.
Michael Farmer
Moss, Norway.

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RE: [meteorite-list] NORWAY meteorite hunt

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I think that between Haag, myself, Rainer Bartochewitz (who classifies 
meteorite) and the others, we have a pretty good handle on the simple fact that 
it is a carbonaceous chondrite. The CO3´s are pretty distinct, so I think this 
one is in the bag as a CO3.  But of course, only the final classification will 
confirm for all.
Due to a vehicle problem, part of my day today will be spent in repair mode.
Mike Farmer






 -- Original message --
From: "Matson, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hi Mike,
> 
> > Well,  it is 12:24 am here in Moss Norway, and I just came up from
> > some heavy drinking with a heck of a batch of meteorite hunters. We
> > have Robert Ward, Robert Haag, and myself representing the USA.
> > Moritz Karl, Alexander Gehler, Rainer Bartowtzewich (sp?) and Thomas
> > Kurtz from Germany here tonight.
> 
> You're missing a USA representative on site ... perhaps by now you've
> crossed paths.
> 
> > WE saw many others today and yesterday though, even Poland was well
> > represented.
> 
> Though a prior team has implied that a Poland team was disrespectful
> of private property.  Shameful if true.
> 
> > None from France, or Austria, or the UK though.
> 
> Surprising, indeed.  I would have imagined Rob Elliott or one of
> the Carions might have made the journey.
> 
> > Now, on to the meteorite! It IS A CO, Carbonaceous. NO DOUBT
> > unless it gets some wierd exception in classification.  So I was
> > right, as were many others who guessed CO2 or CO3.
> 
> CO2???  You must be drinking some good stuff over there!  ;-)
> In the face of overwhelming popular opinion to the contrary, I'll
> stick to my guns and assume it ISN'T a CO3 until I hear/read otherwise
> from someone who has done a formal classification.
> 
> Thanks for the up-to-date report from the field!  Keep your eyes open
> for others from the good old US of A...  --Rob
> 
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[meteorite-list] NORWAY meteorite hunt

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Hi everyone.
 Well,  it is 12:24 am here in Moss Norway, and I just came up from some heavy 
drinking with a heck of a batch of meteorite hunters. We have Robert Ward, 
Robert Haag,  and myself representing the USA. Moritz Karl, Alexander Gehler, 
Rainer Bartowtzewich (sp?) and Thomas Kurtz from Germany here tonight. WE saw 
many others today and yesterday though, even Poland was well represented. None 
from France, or Austria, or the UK though.
  Now, on to the meteorite! It IS A CO, Carbonaceous. NO DOUBT unless 
it gets some wierd exception in classification. So I was right, as were many 
others who guessed CO2 or CO3. It is a meteorite that will take your breath 
away! It also had  the misfortune of falling in one of the worst imaginable 
places for searching! This area is of course, absolutely beautiful, fjords, 
trees, endless berrys to eat like strawberrys, blueberrys, and raspberrys, lots 
of tall, blonde women, and it is not 400,000 degrees like Tucson right now.
What is wrong is that it is high growing season, so every flat surface is being 
farmed with full grown wheat, barley, peas, cabbage, etc. Every other surface 
is extremely heavy forest with deep layers of moss that you sink in, lakes, 
swamps, or fjords full of cruise ships. Their is absolutely no place to easily 
search other than a few parks and shopping centers and industrial sites.
>From the siye of the fireball, it is certain  that there are many pieces, but 
>highly unlikely that much will be found other than by locals in their yards, 
>and most locals are on vacation and not here.
So to end so that I can get some sleep for the first time in 3 days, there is 
little news to report so far other than Norway got lucky with a fabulous new 
CC. Now it is time to feed the mosquitoes while I sleep for the few hours of 
darkness there is in this part of the world at this time of the year.
Michael Farmer
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[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay auctions ending.

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Hi everyone.
I am still in Europe but flying home today after a long two weeks of the 
Ensishim and Saint Marie aux Mines shows. 
I have several very nice meteorites ending on ebay today and tomorrow. 


See them all at the links below.


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[meteorite-list] Ensisheim, here I come!

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Well, it's June, so it must be France this month. I am sitting in Dallas on my 
way to Ensisheim and Saint Marie aux Mines shows. I look forward to the wine 
and good times that come with it at the show. 
See you all in 48 hours.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Holy crap-- can anyone confirm this? Any vikings on the list?

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That is one huge deserted area, lots of empty forest for a meteorite to be lost 
in. I will wait till pieces are reported, then damn skippy, I will be there.
Otherwise, see all my European friends in Ensisheim in a week!
Mike Farmer
PS, we only found on Glorieta yesterday, we got caught up on top of a mountain 
during a huge thunderstorm and were soaked to the bone for about 2 hours, 
hiding from lightning bolts, and then slip-sliding back down the mountain in 
clay mud! And people wonder why Glorieta costs so much!

 -- Original message --
From: Darren Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1346411.ece
> 
> Record meteorite hit Norway
> As Wednesday morning dawned, northern Norway was hit with an impact comparable
> to the atomic bomb used on Hiroshima.
> 
> At around 2:05 a.m. on Wednesday, residents of the northern part of Troms and
> the western areas of Finnmark could clearly see a ball of fire taking several
> seconds to travel across the sky.
> 
> A few minutes later an impact could be heard and geophysics and seismology
> research foundation NORSAR registered a powerful sound and seismic 
> disturbances
> at 02:13.25 a.m. at their station in Karasjok.
> 
> Farmer Peter Bruvold was out on his farm in Lyngseidet with a camera because 
> his
> mare Virika was about to foal for the first time. 
> 
> "I saw a brilliant flash of light in the sky, and this became a light with a
> tail of smoke," Bruvold told Aftenposten.no. He photographed the object and 
> then
> continued to tend to his animals when he heard an enormous crash.
> 
> "I heard the bang seven minutes later. It sounded like when you set off a 
> solid
> charge of dynamite a kilometer (0.62 miles) away," Bruvold said.
> 
> Astronomers were excited by the news.
> 
> "There were ground tremors, a house shook and a curtain was blown into the
> house," Norway's best known astronomer Knut Jørgen Røed Ødegaard told
> Aftenposten.no.
> 
> Røed Ødegaard said the meteorite was visible to an area of several hundred
> kilometers despite the brightness of the midnight sunlit summer sky. The
> meteorite hit a mountainside in Reisadalen in North Troms.
> 
> "This is simply exceptional. I cannot imagine that we have had such a powerful
> meteorite impact in Norway in modern times. If the meteorite was as large as 
> it
> seems to have been, we can compare it to the Hiroshima bomb. Of course the
> meteorite is not radioactive, but in explosive force we may be able to compare
> it to the (atomic) bomb," Røed Ødegaard said.
> 
> The astronomer believes the meteorite was a giant rock and probably the 
> largest
> known to have struck Norway.
> 
> "The record was the Alta meteorite that landed in 1904. That one was 90 kilos
> (198 lbs) but we think the meteorite that landed Wednesday was considerably
> larger," Røed Ødegaard said, and urged members of the public who saw the 
> object
> or may have found remnants to contact the Institute of Astrophysics.
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Hi from Glorieta Mountain!

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Yes, but they are all small pieces, not quite like the treasures you have 
uncovered. Oh well, there is always today, we are running a little late today, 
but it stays light here until after 8 pm. Just heading out in a few minutes!
Mike
 -- Original message --
From: "Mike Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Wow Mike, 9 pieces in 1 day. That is a good day in Glorieta. Congrats
> 
> On 6/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey everyone, just a quick note from Santa Fe, New Mexico.
> > I have been busting my rear (really) while hiking up and down the steep 
> mountains here in Glorieta today. We found 9 pieces of this pallasite! I 
> found 2 
> and my hunting partner found 7;(.
> > I am doing a photo shoot for Southwest Airlines Magazine, where in August 
> > they 
> will have a feature article about me and meteorite hunting. One of the 
> hunting 
> photos from today may actually make the cover shot. This should be a nice 
> boost 
> to meteorite hunting, since the magazine is in every seat on every Southwest 
> flight for a month, that is a perfect, captive audience to read about 
> something 
> they normally would not ever see.
> > Anyway, I am just excited for having found some nice pallasite individuals 
> today.
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[meteorite-list] Hi from Glorieta Mountain!

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Hey everyone, just a quick note from Santa Fe, New Mexico.
I have been busting my rear (really) while hiking up and down the steep 
mountains here in Glorieta today. We found 9 pieces of this pallasite! I found 
2 and my hunting partner found 7;(. 
I am doing a photo shoot for Southwest Airlines Magazine, where in August they 
will have a feature article about me and meteorite hunting. One of the hunting 
photos from today may actually make the cover shot. This should be a nice boost 
to meteorite hunting, since the magazine is in every seat on every Southwest 
flight for a month, that is a perfect, captive audience to read about something 
they normally would not ever see.
Anyway, I am just excited for having found some nice pallasite individuals 
today.
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[meteorite-list] AD, weekly ebay sale. $3000.00 in meteorites ending

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I have over 50 meteorites ending Wednesday on ebay, some great items! 
Virtually all listed starting at one cent!

Over $3000 in meteorites up for grabs.

Some examples and key items:

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My last set of 4 Lunar and Martian meteorites! This is several hundred $$$ of 
Planetary material.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6634214646
NWA 2977, rare GABBRO Lunar meteorite with Zagami-like fusion crust.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6634206458
Beautiful 3.5 KILO Sikhote-Alin shrapnel piece.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6634243932
Large complete Gibeon slice with unique etch pattern!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6634234413
22 gram OLIVINE DIOGENITE piece, this is my last large piece, valued at over 
$700.00, up for one cent!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6634213354
LARGE endcut of NWA 1934, never before sold CV3.  143 gram endcut, one of my 
largest pieces of this old carbonaceous chondrite. This piece is worth well 
over $500.00.

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82 gram slice of NWA 1941, blue chondrite!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6634232168
Nice .4 gram fragment of Murchison.

Of course many many more items, many still at one cent!

See them all at the links below.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Munionalusta watch

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Yes, it looks nice, but there is no information on that page! How much is it? 
Where can it be bought?
Mike Farmer
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> Ha, great watch.
> http://www.horlogerie-suisse.com/2005/antoine/tourbi.html
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[meteorite-list] Leaving the country for some weeks.

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Hi everyone, I am leaving the country again on Thursday, and will be gone at 
least two weeks, perhaps more. Anyone in Europe who wants to buy anything, I 
can ship on Friday from Europe so please let me know by Wednesday.


On the new Morocco fall; I do not question why Morocco is so blessed by the 
meteorite god, I embrace it. There is no doubts as to the authenticity of 
Benguerir (in many newspapers and reported from Marrakech and other places.
Benguerir was also reported in news in Morocco. Oum Dreyga was reported and 
recovered in a hevily military zone, so much more difficult for me or anyone 
else to operate in the zone.

I am not sure why Matteo cant handle the facts, but they are crystal clear. 
For the reason why Egypt, or Mauritania might not get so many recovered falls, 
well, Morocco is well settled all over the country, Egypt and Mauritania are 
very sparsely settled, with people all concentrated in urban areas, so any 
falls outside those areas have virtually no chance of recovery.
Mike Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: new fall

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Perhaps when you use common sense, you might understand the cause for so many 
witnessed recovered falls in Morocco.
It is a desert, so searching is not difficult. 
It is almost always clear, so most falls would be seen by someone.
It is a very hot country, so the culture there means people are outside well 
into the nighttime where in most western nations, most people are inside 
staring at their televisions come nighttime.
It is a country where almost everyone has heard about meteorites and they 
equate the fall with $$$.
Just as many meteorites are falling elsewhere but people don't report it 
because it is just another event.
Michael Farmer
 -- Original message --
From: M come Meteorite Meteorites <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> what is it? Morocco have a magnet for meteorites?
> Every year a fall
> 
> Matteo
> 
> --- Nelson Oakes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: 
> 
> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: Nelson Oakes 
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 5:23 PM
> > Subject: Fw: new fall
> > 
> > 
> > Dear List, All of Erfoud is in an uproar!! A very
> > large, slowly moving meteorite has detonated over
> > the town, witnessed by many hundreds of tourists in
> > Aziz's hotel as well as many Erfoudians! Aziz
> > actually saw it first as he was driving from the
> > hotel towards his home in Erfoud! The object was
> > seen to split into hundreds of flaming individuals
> > that then fell towards the earth. The time was
> > recorded as 2040 GMT. More news coming!!! Thanks
> > Nels
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 5:15 PM
> > Subject: new fall
> > 
> > 
> > Hi nels
> > 
> > At 20.45  a giant meteorite explosed over erfoud 
> > all the tourist taking dinner saw it 
> > 
> > Very slow going meteorite it ‘s explosed in hundred
> > fragment 
> > 
> > I can say it’s the biggest fall I have seen
> > 
> > It flying like a bird not fast
> > 
> > I called my friend in errhachidia  they heard the
> > explosion
> > 
> > We will be hunting early tomorrow
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> > aziz habibi.
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> > GM palm's hotel  club .
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> > www.palmotel.com.
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Re: [meteorite-list] My first martian meteorite

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Are Moroccans now doing field classifications? What might I ask, leads you to 
know it is a Martian meteorite if it is not in your hands yet?
Mike Farmer
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From: M come Meteorite Meteorites <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Hello
> 
> I have buy my first martian meteorite from a moroccan
> dealer days ago. Its little, at 16 grams, but its a
> martian meteorite. When arrive I put some photos of
> the mass, and after I cut for the analysis.
> 
> Matteo
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar meteorite list

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Why do that, they are paired pieces, some of the Oman meteorites for example, 
20 stones were found, they are all numbered, but not different meteorites. 
There are 38 seperate unpaired lunar meteorites. Hell, I have about 10,000 gao 
stones, so should they all be numbered and given new names?
 -- Original message --
From: "Tim Heitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> I counted the individually numbered lunar meteorites, its over well over 
> 100, count them.
> http://epsc.wustl.edu/admin/resources/meteorites/moon_meteorites_list.html
> 
> Tim Heitz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "dfreeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 3:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar meteorite list
> 
> 
> > 38+ 30(???) = 68  Dave F.
> > not the sharpest knife in the drawer
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >>Here is the official list of Lunar meteorites. Not sure where the 120 # 
> >>came from, there are only 38 official known lunar meteorites. We know of a 
> >>couple more that are being worked on, but this is it.
> >>
> >>http://epsc.wustl.edu/admin/resources/meteorites/moon_meteorites_list.html
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[meteorite-list] Lunar meteorite list

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Here is the official list of Lunar meteorites. 
Not sure where the 120 # came from, there are only 38 official known lunar 
meteorites. We know of a couple more that are being worked on, but this is it.

http://epsc.wustl.edu/admin/resources/meteorites/moon_meteorites_list.html
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[meteorite-list] link to photo of new meteorites

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http://meteoriteguy.com/mohamed.JPG


Here we are, Jim took this photo 5 minutes ago. 
Mike
A lot of large pieces, up to 60 kilos!
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[meteorite-list] 60o kilos of chondrites are here!

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Anyone in Tucson, as I type this, Mohammed and Jim and Hans Koser are right now 
outside my room unloading and opening the boxes of 60o kilos of chondrites. 
First come, first to find the treasures. With the Lunar purchase, I dont have 
the dough left to worry about buying more meteorites, so they are for the rest 
of you guys. 
Good luck, there are some nive LARGE stones here. 
Mike Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites without specimen cards

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Steve, come on now, if you can use a computer, you can use Microsoft Word or 
Works and create a business card, if you can do that, it is simple to then make 
a specimen card. I print them by the thousands, it takes 5 minutes to make a 
new card once you save a template. 
Mike
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From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hi and good afternoon list.Something that really pisses me off is when you
> buy a meteorite on ebay,from either prominent meteorite people or people
> who are not so reliable.I just picked up a 40 slice of julesburg,colorado
> with a huss # on it and it came WITHOUT a specimen card.I admit,I have
> sold on ebay without specimen cards,I do not like it,but I have nothing to
> send if I have not gotten a card from someone who sends the piece to
> me.Then I have to write out on an index card the item name.It would be
> nice if we all could send cards with our pieces.Any thoughts from anyone
> else who has had this problem?
> 
> 
>  steve arnold, chicago
> 
> Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 
>  
> 
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> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite

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Yes Matt, I understand, but you cant just make it so simple as well. We all 
know that some Brahin is crap, some is superb, same with Brenham. Yet I have 
never seen Esquel rust, nor Seymchan, nor Glorietta. 
This comes from the fact that people have been touting how nice Fukang is (and 
I agree, it is a beautiful meteorite with superb large crystals) yet the fact 
that I know some people who bought pieces last year from Kilgore, that it is 
all rusting. Now when we try to discuss that fact, several people have been 
emailing and calling me to complain that I should not say that if I dont have 
any. I find that terrible, it seems that people want to sell it knowing full 
well that the meteorite they are charging $20 or $25 gram for might be a 
serious problem ruster. 
Now, people who sell Brahin or Brenham know it may rust, this the very low 
price for that danger built into the cheap price. But Fukang commands an Imilac 
or Esquel piece, neither of which are problem meteorites. I find that to be a 
risk to the customers/collectors that I am here to serve. I will sell you a 
Brahin, but you know beforehand that it could rust to nothing. It seems that 
most dealers are trying to avoid that fact with the super-expensive Fukang.
This is my point. 
Mike 
 -- Original message --
From: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Agreed Mike, you do take your chances on buying ANY meteorite. It aint 
> like buying coins.
> All I was trying to get at is you can't make blanket statements that 
> this one doesn't rust, but that one does. It depends on where the piece 
> came from and the preparation. I've spent 20-25/g on Imilac to have it 
> rust in 6 mos because it wasn't prepared correctly.
> Matt
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >Then like Brenham or Brahin, "you pays your money and you takes your 
> >chances"?  
> Brenham and Brahin cost like 90% less than Fukang, so paying $1 or $2 gram 
> and 
> losing it is not like spending $20 or $25 gram on Fukang and not having a 
> clue 
> where your piece came from. How is a buyer going to know if it came from the 
> center or the upper left quarter 4 centimers from the crust/rust surface? 
> They 
> wont know, until either it stays fine or rusts into nothing, worth nothing. 
> >Mike
> > -- Original message --
> >From: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  
> >
> >>Or on the other hand, it can be completely stable. I have had 4 slices 
> >>now for a few months that show no signs of rusting whatsoever. These 
> >>were taken from an external chunk on the top of the mass. So just like 
> >>Brenham, it depends where the piece came from and how it was finished.
> >>
> >>I have an Imilac slice right now that was rusting until I refinished it 
> >>and stabilized it (purchased from a very well known dealer I may add). 
> >>So no pallasites are free of rusting; they can't be in our oxidizing 
> >>environment.
> >>
> >>Matt Morgan
> >>
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>That tells me that it is a dangerous, unstable meteorite not worth buying 
> >>>and 
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>spending thousands of $$$ to take the risk of it melting into a pile of 
> >>nearly 
> >>worthless olivine crystals. I will take Esquel, Seymchan, or Imilac any 
> >>day, 
> >>with no risk involved.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Mike Farmer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-- Original message --
> >>>From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> Hello Mike
>    Fukang has beautiful crystals of olivine and it looked very nice a 
> few months ago .
> Now it has rusted so I see no fresh metal . Maybe the interior is better 
> but 
> in Minnesota .
> Nantan falls to dust in 6 months to a year here .
> If I were to get a piece again I would keep it in a vacum sealed 
> container 
> .
>    May your day do well Ken Regelman
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 3:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite
> 
> 
>    
> 
> 
> 
> >Please clarify Ken, you say the Fukang specimen is very nice, and then 
> >you 
> >say you are watching it rust everywhere. Those two statements are not 
> >compatible. Either it is nice, or it is a rusting piece of crap. 
> >Meteorites that rust on me are never considered nice.
> >Mike Farmer
> >-- Original message --
> >From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" 
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> >
> >  
> >
> >>The Fukang meteorite is a wonderful specimen as I have said .
> >>I have had a specimen for some time and I live in Minnesota .
> >>One of the worst climates for iron meteorites and I
> >>have been watchin

Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite

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Then like Brenham or Brahin, "you pays your money and you takes your chances"?  
Brenham and Brahin cost like 90% less than Fukang, so paying $1 or $2 gram and 
losing it is not like spending $20 or $25 gram on Fukang and not having a clue 
where your piece came from. How is a buyer going to know if it came from the 
center or the upper left quarter 4 centimers from the crust/rust surface? They 
wont know, until either it stays fine or rusts into nothing, worth nothing. 
Mike
 -- Original message --
From: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Or on the other hand, it can be completely stable. I have had 4 slices 
> now for a few months that show no signs of rusting whatsoever. These 
> were taken from an external chunk on the top of the mass. So just like 
> Brenham, it depends where the piece came from and how it was finished.
> 
> I have an Imilac slice right now that was rusting until I refinished it 
> and stabilized it (purchased from a very well known dealer I may add). 
> So no pallasites are free of rusting; they can't be in our oxidizing 
> environment.
> 
> Matt Morgan
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >That tells me that it is a dangerous, unstable meteorite not worth buying 
> >and 
> spending thousands of $$$ to take the risk of it melting into a pile of 
> nearly 
> worthless olivine crystals. I will take Esquel, Seymchan, or Imilac any day, 
> with no risk involved.
> >Mike Farmer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original message --
> >From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  
> >
> >>Hello Mike
> >>Fukang has beautiful crystals of olivine and it looked very nice a 
> >>few months ago .
> >>Now it has rusted so I see no fresh metal . Maybe the interior is better 
> >>but 
> >>in Minnesota .
> >>Nantan falls to dust in 6 months to a year here .
> >> If I were to get a piece again I would keep it in a vacum sealed container 
> >>.
> >>May your day do well Ken Regelman
> >>
> >>- Original Message - 
> >>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> >>
> >>Cc: 
> >>Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 3:14 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Please clarify Ken, you say the Fukang specimen is very nice, and then you 
> >>>say you are watching it rust everywhere. Those two statements are not 
> >>>compatible. Either it is nice, or it is a rusting piece of crap. 
> >>>Meteorites that rust on me are never considered nice.
> >>>Mike Farmer
> >>>-- Original message --
> >>>From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" 
> >>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>  
> >>>
> The Fukang meteorite is a wonderful specimen as I have said .
> I have had a specimen for some time and I live in Minnesota .
> One of the worst climates for iron meteorites and I
> have been watching my specimen Rust for the last 3 months.
> It was not prepared in any way just hacked off by the original
> owner of the Fukang meteorite . Just a thought when purchasing
> specimens .
> Ken Regelman
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite

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That tells me that it is a dangerous, unstable meteorite not worth buying and 
spending thousands of $$$ to take the risk of it melting into a pile of nearly 
worthless olivine crystals. I will take Esquel, Seymchan, or Imilac any day, 
with no risk involved.
Mike Farmer




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From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hello Mike
> Fukang has beautiful crystals of olivine and it looked very nice a 
> few months ago .
> Now it has rusted so I see no fresh metal . Maybe the interior is better but 
> in Minnesota .
> Nantan falls to dust in 6 months to a year here .
>  If I were to get a piece again I would keep it in a vacum sealed container 
> .
> May your day do well Ken Regelman
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 3:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite
> 
> 
> > Please clarify Ken, you say the Fukang specimen is very nice, and then you 
> > say you are watching it rust everywhere. Those two statements are not 
> > compatible. Either it is nice, or it is a rusting piece of crap. 
> > Meteorites that rust on me are never considered nice.
> > Mike Farmer
> > -- Original message --
> > From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> The Fukang meteorite is a wonderful specimen as I have said .
> >> I have had a specimen for some time and I live in Minnesota .
> >> One of the worst climates for iron meteorites and I
> >> have been watching my specimen Rust for the last 3 months.
> >> It was not prepared in any way just hacked off by the original
> >> owner of the Fukang meteorite . Just a thought when purchasing
> >> specimens .
> >> Ken Regelman
> >> Astronomical Research Network
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Re: [meteorite-list] RE: what country is the hardest to get meteoritesfrom?

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Try Panama, NONE, ZERO meteorites found there. But I will get one sooner or 
later.
Mike Farmer
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From: "Christian Anger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Try to get an Austrian Meteorite ! That's a challenge !
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Christian
> 
> 
> 
> I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc
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> Ing. Christian Anger
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:meteorite-list-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Marmet
> > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 7:28 PM
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> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: what country is the hardest to get 
> meteoritesfrom?
> > 
> > Hi JKGwilliam, Steve and All,
> > 
> > Zambia has a nice L6(Monze) and this one can be easily purchased from
> > Eric Twelker, Allan Lang,...
> > so I guess, to get meteorites from SAN MARINO is even more difficult;-)!
> > 
> > Peter
> > 
> > 
> >   JKGwilliam wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello Steve,
> > > In my opinion, the country that is the hardest to obtain meteorites
> > > from is Zambia.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > JKGwilliam
> > >
> > > At 08:31 PM 1/5/2006, Steve Arnold, Chicago!! wrote:
> > >
> > >> Good evening list.With tucson rapidly approaching,I really hope
> > >> that there
> > >> is some of the fukang pallasite available.I have never seen such
> > >> secrecy
> > >> surrounding a meteorite.Well if there is some there I am going to
> > >> buy a
> > >> piece.Any thought on what the availibility will be?Also while I am
> > >> thinking about it,which country is the hardest to obtain meteorites
> > >> from?CANADA,AUSTRALIA,CHINA,etc.I am wondering if some others
> > >> might be
> > >> able to shead some thought on this.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> steve arnold,chicago
> > >>
> > >> Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Illinois Meteorites,Ltd!
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> __
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite

[meteoritehunter]

Please clarify Ken, you say the Fukang specimen is very nice, and then you say 
you are watching it rust everywhere. Those two statements are not compatible. 
Either it is nice, or it is a rusting piece of crap. Meteorites that rust on me 
are never considered nice.
Mike Farmer
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> The Fukang meteorite is a wonderful specimen as I have said .
> I have had a specimen for some time and I live in Minnesota .
> One of the worst climates for iron meteorites and I
> have been watching my specimen Rust for the last 3 months. 
> It was not prepared in any way just hacked off by the original 
> owner of the Fukang meteorite . Just a thought when purchasing
> specimens . 
> Ken Regelman 
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[meteorite-list] Thanks for the help.

[meteoritehunter]

I want to thank all who offered advice and help with my email problems. I have 
not solved it yet, but will work on it. 
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[meteorite-list] AD: large meteorite sale tonight.

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I have loaded another 40 meteorites on ebay, most starting at one
cent as usual. There are over $2000.00 in meteorites up for grabs tonight. I am 
flying home today from Paris, so will not be home until after the auctions end.
Some notable specimens are below. 
All items end TONIGHT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6571115440
An Oriented Sikhote-Alin that you have to see to believe!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6571479732
Beautiful carved meteorite bead.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6570593403
Very nice flight-oriented Dhofar main mass.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6571137341
Very nice 350 gram Gibeon piece, less than 10 cents per gram right now! Try to 
find that price anywhere.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=657114
90 gram meteorite sphere.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6571127330
Large Gibeon etched egg.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6571147796
Very nice Esquel micro.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6570525213
91 gram Muonionalusta complete slice.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6570530109
Very nice LL3.7 piece.


Many are still at one cent!
See all I have for sale at these two links below.

http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteorite-hunter/
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteoritehunters/


Mike Farmer


> I have loaded another 40 meteorites on ebay, most starting at one
> cent as usual. There are over $2000.00 in meteorites up for grabs tonight. I 
> am 
> flying home today from Paris, so will not be home until after the auctions 
> end.
> Some notable specimens are below. 
> All items end TONIGHT
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6571115440
> An Oriented Sikhote-Alin that you have to see to believe!
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6571479732
> Beautiful carved meteorite bead.
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6570593403
> Very nice flight-oriented Dhofar main mass.
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6571137341
> Very nice 350 gram Gibeon piece, less than 10 cents per gram right now! Try 
> to 
> find that price anywhere.
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=657114
> 90 gram meteorite sphere.
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6571127330
> Large Gibeon etched egg.
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6571147796
> Very nice Esquel micro.
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6570525213
> 91 gram Muonionalusta complete slice.
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6570530109
> Very nice LL3.7 piece.
> 
> 
> Many are still at one cent!
> See all I have for sale at these two links below.
> 
> http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteorite-hunter/
> http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteoritehunters/
> 
> 
> Mike Farmer
> 
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[meteorite-list] (no subject)

[meteoritehunter]

I have loaded another 40 meteorites on ebay, most starting at one
cent as usual. There are over $2000.00 in meteorites up for grabs tonight. I am 
flying home today from Paris, so will not be home until after the auctions end.
Some notable specimens are below. 
All items end TONIGHT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6571115440
An Oriented Sikhote-Alin that you have to see to believe!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6571479732
Beautiful carved meteorite bead.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6570593403
Very nice flight-oriented Dhofar main mass.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6571137341
Very nice 350 gram Gibeon piece, less than 10 cents per gram right now! Try to 
find that price anywhere.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=657114
90 gram meteorite sphere.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6571127330
Large Gibeon etched egg.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6571147796
Very nice Esquel micro.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6570525213
91 gram Muonionalusta complete slice.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6570530109
Very nice LL3.7 piece.


Many are still at one cent!
See all I have for sale at these two links below.

http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteorite-hunter/
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteoritehunters/


Mike Farmer


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[meteorite-list] Munich notes

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Hi everyone,

After a hectic two days of perusing the massive Munich show, it is finally 
over, and I will be on my way home tomorrow with a stop in Paris. The weather 
here has been incredible, over 70 degrees and not a cloud in the sky the last 
two days! Very abnormal for Germany at the end of October.
The show was interesting, a lot of people who usually set up were not here.
Some things of note, the Moroccans has virtually NO meteorites, compared to 
last year, there was like 10% what they used to have. Also there was a lot of 
the ´Fuking` Pallasite from China. It was being offered at less than 10Euros a 
gram in large chunks, I saw pieces from 100 grams to 2 kilos. Apparently the 
buyers have divided the massive pallasite up and are now going to flood the 
market. Looks like a good buying opportunity when the price collapses. It is 
beautiful stuff, but with over 900 kilos,  coming on the market, we know where 
this goes. 

There were ZERO large gibeons or Sikhotes, except a couple at Erich Haiderer´s 
always full table. Moritz again had the best display of rare material, with 
Martian, Lunar, Pallasite, and nice irons from Aussie museum trades. Hans had 
the usual rally nice Campos, and Karl Sprich many nice Gibeon pieces cut into 
spheres and cubes.

Moldavites are everywhere.

I may have broken a planetary record in Morocco, so get your pennies rolled and 
wait for the news. 

Michael Farmer
Munich
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[meteorite-list] Munich, here I come

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Hi everyone, I have been in the Moroccan desert for a week, and am finally back 
in Paris, taking overnight train to Munich tonight.
I got a heck of a pile of nice meteorites, so expect some spectacular specimens 
in the near future.
See you all tomorrow.
Mike Farmer
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RE: [meteorite-list] Only for Mark Bostik - Others delete

[meteoritehunter]

Mark
Respectfully; why dont you keep ,e out of your email/fight with Matteo.
I do not infue you into my pissing matches with the Italian freakboy.
It is not my problem, fight; or business; so keep me and my name out of it.
It is nice to see that you are not playing farmer whatever that means; but you 
are fighting with him on the list, so I guess you actually are.
Mike


> Hello Matteo and list,
> 
> I will cover a couple things here and answer you privately a little as well.
> 
> To say I have not answered your e-mails is highly misleading.  I have 
> answered like 20-25.  I have not answered all 50-60 you have sent.
> 
> You were given shipping options and you chose the higher, which did not cost 
> you $35.  $35 was figured using the www.usps.com website, and since it did 
> not cost that I refunded almost half back to you.  You did not ask me to do 
> this or the like. I think the website figured shipping at 1 pound.  Not 
> sure, however I did show you how the rate was figured.
> 
> Now, if you continue to e-mail as you have, or if you e-mail the list on me 
> again, I will simply block you.  You may think this is some game, I do not.  
> I am not interested in playing Farmer with you and will not do so.
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Alert

[meteoritehunter]

This is q very common and old scam.
If something seems odd, strange, out of place, or illegal, it probably is.
Usually the scam involves the person wanting you to keep extra money, and only 
sending pqrt to them, that is to get you to overlook the facts and play on your 
greed so you quickly cash the check and send them money.
Mike Farmer


> Dear IMCA and List Members,
> 
> I was approached by a fellow calling himself Tim Trepagnier who claimed he
> was representing a client who was interested in one of my specimens that did
> not sell on ebay. He stipulated that the client would send me a money order
> in an amount greater than the asking price. The excess amount was supposed
> to be his commission and he wanted me to wire the difference to him
> immediately after cashing the check. This raised some suspicion with me but
> I did not want to think the worse. I have been involved in some pretty
> awkward international transactions before so I gave the benefit of the doubt
> to the deal until the money orders arrived.
> 
> The first thing I noticed was that the envelope came from Spain and that no
> return address was on it. I opened the envelope and found that instead of a
> single money order, there were four totaling $3,600.00. The cost of the item
> he was pretending to be interested in was only $449.00 so I suspected he was
> trying to launder money through me. I called Travelers Express Company, the
> bank in which the money orders were drawn and waited on hold for 40 minutes.
> The scam artist(s) thought that most people would not tolerate the long hold
> times and assumed victims would think the checks were good since a real
> phone number was on the back of the check. After waiting on hold I found
> that the checks were counterfeits and that unbelievably several people have
> fallen for this scam.
> 
> The way the scam was supposed to work is that I would have gone to my bank
> and received cash for the excess amount ($3,151.00) thinking the checks were
> good and then send it Western Union to the scam artist. He would get the
> good money right away realizing that my bank would latter find out the
> checks were counterfeit.  I would have been out the full $3,600.00 and
> suffered the humiliation it would have caused.  Not only that, I would have
> sent the specimen to a bogus address, maybe never getting it back.
> 
> It would seem pretty obvious to most that a scam was about to be perpetrated
> in these circumstances but most like to think the best of people and might
> have fallen for it. This is what the scam artist(s) is counting on and I
> hate to see somebody get burned.
> 
> Take Care,
> 
> 
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> The Hupe Collection
> Team LunarRock
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite collection SOLD

[meteoritehunter]

Well, it is official, I have sold my entire meteorite collection to none other 
than Matt Morgan. We spent last night in Denver going through the collection 
and setting it up at Matt's home. I still have a few pieces, but not much. 
Panama, here I come!
Here is a photo of Matt and I setting up his case with all his new meteorites. 
http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/matt_mike.jpg.

I will be back in Denver next week, prowling around the show there, so I hope 
to see many of you there. 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall in Zimbabwe?

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Damn, too bad I am in Panama right now, or I would be there in a 
heartbeat
Of course, Mugabe would want me to pay him for that stone.
Mike Farmer


> 
> http://www.zimbabweherald.com/index.php?id=46403
> 
> Meteorite leaves villagers dumbfounded
> By Freeman Razemba
> The Herald (Zimbabwe)
> August 30, 2005
> 
> VILLAGERS in Dotito, Mount Darwin were left dumbfounded last week and
> are living in fear after they discovered a black stone, which is
> believed to have fallen from the outer space.
> 
> The stone known as meteorite was 21cm long and 13cm wide, weighing about
> 4,1kg.
> 
> It has since been taken to Forensic Scientists Laboratory at the
> Criminal Investigations Department (CID) in Harare for further
> investigations.
> 
> These types of stones fall to the earth and contain grains of
> nickel-iron and metal.
> 
> Mashonaland Central police spokesperson Inspector Michael Munyikwa said
> several villagers from Chaworeka Village heard noise like that of a
> helicopter last Monday at around 5pm.
> 
> "The villagers heard some noise, which resembled that of a helicopter,
> coming from the eastern direction and the noise was followed by clouds
> of dust," he said.
> 
> Insp Munyikwa said the stone fell on the ground a few minutes later and
> about metres away from a Mr Jeriko Muzanembi's homestead.
> 
> He was cutting some poles in a field when the incident occurred.
> 
> Mr Muzanembi and other villagers teamed up and went to investigate and
> discovered that it was an object, which looked like a stone.
> 
> "The impact of the stone cut 15cm deep into the earth when it landed on
> the ground and the villagers discovered that it was an object which
> looked like a stone. It was black in colour and had white particles
> inside," said Insp Munyikwa.
> 
> A report was made to the police who informed the forensic scientists,
> geologists and the army. It was taken to Dotito Police Station and
> later, to Harare.
> 
> According to some scientists, the stone could have changed its size,
> colour and weight as it was falling to the ground, as a result of high
> temperatures, which could have been more than 2 000 Degrees Celsius.
> 
> Police said after completing their investigations with the help of some
> experts, the stone would be taken to the National Museum.
> 
> A meteorite is a small extra-terrestrial body that reaches the earth's
> surface. While in space these bodies are called meteoroids and they are
> called meteors after entering earth's atmosphere but before reaching the
> surface. These are small asteroids, approximately boulder sized or less.
> 
> When it enters the atmosphere, air drag and friction cause the body to
> heat up and emit light, thus forming a fireball or shooting star.
> 
> Throughout the ages, meteorites were venerated as sacred objects by
> different cultures and ancient civilisations.
> 
> The spectacular fall of a meteorite, accompanied by light and sound
> phenomena, such as falling stars, smoke, thunder, and sonic booms, has
> always kindled the human imagination, evoking fear and awe in everyone
> who witnesses such an event.
> 
> For obvious reasons, the remnants of these incidents, the actual
> meteorites, were often kept as sacred stones or objects of power.
> 
> They were worshiped, and used in their respective religious ceremonies.
> 
> However, a meteorite on a celestial body is a small object that has come
> from elsewhere in space.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Canyon Diablo

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They are being hunted now. 
Mike Farmer


> Walter,
> It isn't well known, but there were some "hidden caches" in various shops 
> and homes in Northern Arizona.  Several years ago, I talked with a person 
> in the Kingman area who reportedly had literally tons of Canyon Diablo 
> meteorites in storage.  Although I never got him to disclose the actual 
> weight of what he was sitting on, several contacts did tell me that he had 
> "a whole room full."  Someone else told me they saw several boxes of rusty 
> iron meteorites in the back room of a rock shop along Interstate 40 (Route 
> 66) back in the 1980s.  This could be the same place or it could be two 
> different locations.
> 
> I'm sure that there is a lot of CD material stashed away throughout 
> Arizona.  Five or so years ago, I was visiting the father of an old friend 
> of mine and saw a picture of him (as a young boy) with a big iron meteorite 
> that I estimated to weigh 70-80 lbs.  This 85 year old fellow told me how 
> he and his father had driven to Meteor Crater back in the 1930s and 
> returned home to Globe (Arizona) with the big iron in the back of their 
> Model T.  It sat on the front porch of their house for a couple of decades 
> until the family moved.  No one seems to remember where it is now, but they 
> thought it was left on the porch because it was too heavy to move to 
> Phoenix.  When I asked him why he and his father had made such a long, 
> rough trip (on mostly dirt or gravel roads) he told me it was a popular 
> thing for the copper miners in the Globe/Miami/Superior area to do for 
> recreation!
> 
> There is also the possibility that some meteorite hunters are still working 
> in the strewn field even though it is now illegal.
> 
> Best,
> 
> JKGwilliam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 10:04 AM 6/28/2005, Walter Branch wrote:
> >Hello Everyone,
> >
> >Would someone please tell me where all the Canyon Diablo is coming from?  I
> >used to not see as much Canyon Diablo but now I see kg upon kg on ebay and
> >sites.  I presume plenty was available the Tucson show.
> >
> >I mean, has some hoard or hidden cache been found?
> >
> >-Walter Branch
> >
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[meteorite-list] AD, NWA 801 since we were in the subject.....

[meteoritehunter]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6535594528

Take a look at this piece! Check out the armored chondrule on the left, isn't 
that incredible! Looks like it was just dipped in molten iron.
Mike Farmer
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[meteorite-list] test

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Trying to send email from Hong Kong.
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RE: [meteorite-list] New Orleans Meteorite

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What do you mean not classified yet. It is classified, and is in the new Meteoritical 
Bulletin. I arranged Dr Bunch of NAU to work on it, which he did along with Rhian 
Jones in Albuquerque. 
Mike Farmer


>  
> Very nice piece Mark.
>  
> I am offering some of the NO meteorite up for sale as well.
> Email me off-list if interested. Both small and larger
> pieces.
> Matt Morgan
> Mile High Meteorites
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of MARK BOSTICK
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 2:43 PM
> To: Meteorite List
> Subject: [meteorite-list] New Orleans Meteorite
> 
> 
> Hello List,
>  
> Within a couple weeks the New Orleans meteorite will be
> making it's way to the market.  The meteorite has not been
> classified yet, however it looks a lot like Bensour or
> Kilabo to me.  
>  
> I imagine this was posted to the list about a year ago, but
> the BBC did a really good job on its article, by just
> quoting the homeowner and not putting in any price
> speculation or untrue facts. So forgive me for reposting it,
> if that is the case.
>  
> Here is a 64g fragment with sheetrock that was not water
> damaged.
>  
> http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colneworleans.html
>  
>  
> Mark Bostick
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> BBC News
> 
> United Kingdom
> 
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2003
> 
> 'A meteorite smashed through my roof'
> 
> 
> The chances of being hit by a chunk of space rock are
> measured in the billions-to-one. Roy Fausset, 59, had the
> closest of escapes last month when what scientists now say
> was a meteorite crashed through his New Orleans home. 
> 
> "I walked through my front door and it was like a mortar
> bomb had fallen on my house. 
> 
> There was dust all over the floor of the entrance way and
> the two doors leading to a utility room and the powder room
> had been blown open. 
> 
> There was ceiling debris everywhere. I thought it must have
> been a broken pipe, but there was no water. 
> 
> As I was coming home, I'd noticed something on the roof, but
> had thought nothing of it. It turned out there was a hole
> the size of a basketball through the tiles. 
> 
> Whatever it was, it had passed through the attic, then my
> daughter's bedroom, through the powder room and into the
> crawl space under the floor. 
> 
> I thought it must have been some frozen waste that had
> fallen from a passenger airliner - they are carrying out
> improvements at our local airport, so planes have been
> diverted over our house. 
> 
> I called the police. An investigator went down into the
> crawl space and he found some rock fragments. There are no
> rocks in New Orleans, it's all silt. He said: 'It's a
> meteorite.' 
> 
> I took a sample over to the nearby Tulane University, where
> Stephen Nelson - the head of earth and environmental
> sciences department - examined it. 
> 
> He said the rock was rhyolite - which is found in Mexico and
> Texas. He thought it must have been thrown out of a plane by
> a vandal or become attached to a plane somehow and then
> fallen off. 
> 
> But now, after further analysis, it seems it has a profile
> consistent with that of a meteorite. The police investigator
> was right. 
> 
> I've collected up all the pieces. It's not a meteorite from
> Mars or Venus, which sell for $1,500 a gram. It probably
> came from an asteroid, so is only worth $3 - $10 a gram. It
> might help with the repairs. 
> 
> But I don't care about the money. I'm just very grateful
> that no one was injured. We really dodged the bullet. If
> anyone had been at home, they might have been killed. I
> think just hearing the noise would have caused me to expire.
> 
> 
> One of my neighbours was out in her yard with her children
> eating popsicles. They heard the impact and thought it was a
> car accident. If it had fallen 100 feet away, they could all
> have died. 
> 
> I've been very disorientated by the whole thing, especially
> when I consider what a narrow escape we all had and what
> could have happened. 
> 
> I keep asking: Why me? Maybe God was telling me something? I
> certainly went to church on Sunday and I will never mock Him
> as I did in my foolish youth. 
> 
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[meteorite-list] From the strewnfield of the newest meteorite fall.............

[meteoritehunter]

Hi everyone, I am writing from the strewnfield of the newest meteorite fall on Earth, 
aproaching 36 hours old right now.  Not many people know about it, but I do, I am here 
now. I wonder if it will be public soon? It seems that only me and a very small 
handfull of people know about it even though it is in the USA. I was hunting with 
several famous meteorite hunters all day today and will be again monday. 
More info from me when I decide to let the other so-called meteorite hunters in on the 
secret or it breaks on the list.
Anyway, lots of fun from the strewnfields.
Mike Farmer
Beautiful fireball videos of this one.
Please do not call me until I write the list back, I am really busy. this will likely 
be the only email for a day or two, as you all know, this is a busy time at the 
beginning of a new fall. 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Thauthe comments that were made earlier

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See Adam, that is the entire problem as I see it. We were in the field, 10,000 miles 
from home DOING IT, while you were sending emails and talking. I KNOW what went on 
there as does ERIC. WE WERE THERE, you never went there. So please dont try to tell us 
ANYTHING that went on in Thuathe. I love armchair warriors.
Mike Farmer
> Hello Eric and List,
> 
> I will not bring Thuathe up again as I was told a completely different field
> price was being paid by our supplier.  I have no reason to doubt your word,
> Eric so I will leave this one alone.  I was only responding to an email I
> thought was posted to the List earlier mentioning Thuathe.
> 
> No hard feelings, just expressing what I believed to be true,
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 1:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] An insight to Amgala and other recent falls
> 
> 
> >  > customs for months while you proceeded to destroy the market with the
> couple
> > of kilos you purchased from natives in the field paying way too much.
> This
> > caused our supplier to raise his prices to the point it was no longer
> > attractive and we sent most of the material back.>
> >

> >These statements have been made a couple times in the past and I have
> kept my mouth shut knowing Mike would respond.  But as the other member of
> thuathe trip this time I decided to post the facts.
> >Mike and I paid between $0.50 and $0.90 per gram to the villagers for
> their thuathe.  We also bought several kilograms from Tony Ambrose for $2.00
> per gram.  We were told on numerous occasions by many unrelated sources that
> Tony was paying $0.10 per gram or less.   Yes, we paid 5-10 times what Tony
> was paying.  Yes, Tony was probably pissed he had to pay a fair price
> afterwards, but we left him a pile of money so he could afford to.  There
> wasn't a single piece Mike and I bought from the villagers that we felt we
> paid too much for.  I'd be happy to pay less, but I'd still pay the same
> prices again for those pieces.
> > After expenses we felt $6-$8 per gram was a fair price and we have
> pretty much maintained those prices since.  The only way we "proceeded to

> destroy the market" was to quench some of the demand.   If your supplier
> shafted you by raising his prices then I suggest it was his greed not the
> fact Mike and I paid $0.50 more per gram in the field.  Hopefully this will
> be the last we have to hear about our outrageous overpayment in the field
> and how we destroyed the market.
> >
> > --
> > Eric Olson
> > ELKK Meteorites
> > http://www.star-bits.com
> > > Dear Mike and List Members,
> > >
> > > This post is not intended to be argumentative but could be perceived by
> some
> > > as being so.  We just want to make our position known in regards to the
> new
> > > fall and other issues that were brought up by Mike Farmer on his latest
> > > posts.  Do not worry, our intentions are not to get involved in
> perpetual
> > > arguements on the List as this has proven to be most unproductive in the
> > > past.
> > >
> > > First of all Mike, you were not the first to report this new fall.
> Check
> > > with the University of Washington and NAU.  A few List members have been

> > > aware that we were working on this fall for some time and can vouch for
> us,
> > > not that this is needed.  I will not respond to your ridiculous
> accusations
> > > that we have a few samples and made all this up to scoop you.  Time will
> > > show who is telling the truth and in very short order.  We forgive you
> for
> > > accidentally stumbling onto this fall months after the fact.  We are not
> too
> > > worried about you damaging the market this time with your share that
> only
> >
> > > amounts to a few hundred grams after you divide it up with your
> investors.
> > >
> > > Secondly Mike, you were never the first to report any new fall that we
> are
> > > aware of.  If your memory serves you correctly, and let the record show,
> > > that we were the first to submit samples of Bensour to the scientific
> > > community within 5 days of the fall.  A month had elapsed before you
> > > recovered any Bensour, long after Dean Bessey, Rob Elliot and ourselves
> made

> > > it available to market.  As a matter of fact, we even announced the name
> and
> > > classification before you made your supposed trip to Bensour.  We never
> > > claimed we went to the Bensour region but you did.  We told the NomCom
> to
> > > get the coordinates from you since you claimed to have been to this
> > > dangerous area but, of course, no coordinates were provided.  This is
> the
> > > last piece of data needed to make Bensour an official fall.  Step up to
> the
> > > plate and provide this most crucial data and impress us all.
> > >
> >
> > > Another note, You destroyed the price of Bensour by selling it for less
> than
> > > your cost at $2.80 a gram just 

Re: [meteorite-list] An insight to Amgala and other recent falls

[meteoritehunter]

gotta answer a few points Adam, 
1. I "destroyed" Thuathe? I got almost 20 kilograms from the locals, paid them a FAIR 
price unlike Mr Ronnie McKenzie who was happy to pay then one CENT per gram. I sold 
for $6.00 to $8 gram, so Im not sure how that is "destroying" the price. Perhaps you 
can clarify that one for me?
Did you not hand me the paperwork for it? Tell us all please if I somehow "stole" it 
from you. I was offended by your partners wife, so instead of buying from you, I went 
and got it myself. Again, I fail to see the problem.

2. Bensour, I got over 25 kilos of that fall. I was at the tucson show when it fell, I 
never said or implied that I was the first, Dean Bessey posted it for sale if I recall 
before anyone. you seem to imply that I "destroyed" Bensour by selling at a loss. No 
Adam, I think I cost myself alot of money, and made some EXTREMELY happy collectors 
and museums. you seem to think that collectors want to pay top dollar? Again, I fail 
to see the logic in that post. I got a meteorite, had a spat with Bessy, and sold 
cheap to make a point. The point was made I belive. So I guess a few dealers were not 
happy. I am not here to please other dealers, only my customers and myself. 

3. On this fall, fine, so be it, I did not know you had it, have been busy in the 
field in Oman and elswhere, while you sit at home getting DHL packages, so since you 
did get it first, my hat is off to you, congratulations, I know you like to play 
junior scientist, so go for it. I never said I was the only one on this, I announced 
it when I got it in my hands, if that broke open your little secret, well, I guess you 
should have coordinated with me on that.
And I did not say you made up anything to trump me, however, it would not be the first 
time that someone has posted that they have tons of material when they do not. 
Casper used to do that all the time, he did it with NWA 482 and many other meteorites. 
I dont think that asking to see the material is a problem if you have it? If that is a 
problem, tell us what it is?

4. why would I damage the market? I want o offer my customers a good price while 
making a profit for myself and my partners, that is the crux of American business. Are 
you saying I should mark it up many more times than I paid? What price do you want 
Adam, $100 gram, $50 gram?

The things you said Adam were wrong, I have answered them point by point logically. 
I would think the collectors on this list want good meteorites at the best possible 
prices. If you are telling me that they are angry that I sold Bensour cheap, damn, I 
had better raise my prices accross the board and make everyone happy again. Ill bet 
that will raise some smiles from my customers.

Adam, sorry I "stumbled" onto your fall. This was my 30th COUNT them 30 trips to 
Morocco. I  think you have been ONE time?
hello
> Dear Mike and List Members,
> 
> This post is not intended to be argumentative but could be perceived by some
> as being so.  We just want to make our position known in regards to the new
> fall and other issues that were brought up by Mike Farmer on his latest
> posts.  Do not worry, our intentions are not to get involved in perpetual
> arguements on the List as this has proven to be most unproductive in the
> past.
> 
> First of all Mike, you were not the first to report this new fall.  Check
> with the University of Washington and NAU.  A few List members have been
> aware that we were working on this fall for some time and can vouch for us,
> not that this is needed.  I will not respond to your ridiculous accusations
> that we have a few samples and made all this up to scoop you.  Time will
> show who is telling the truth and in very short order.  We forgive you for
> accidentally stumbling onto this fall months after the fact.  We are not too
> worried about you damaging the market this time with your share that only

> amounts to a few hundred grams after you divide it up with your investors.
> 
> Secondly Mike, you were never the first to report any new fall that we are
> aware of.  If your memory serves you correctly, and let the record show,
> that we were the first to submit samples of Bensour to the scientific
> community within 5 days of the fall.  A month had elapsed before you
> recovered any Bensour, long after Dean Bessey, Rob Elliot and ourselves made
> it available to market.  As a matter of fact, we even announced the name and
> classification before you made your supposed trip to Bensour.  We never
> claimed we went to the Bensour region but you did.  We told the NomCom to
> get the coordinates from you since you claimed to have been to this
> dangerous area but, of course, no coordinates were provided.  This is the
> last piece of data needed to make Bensour an official fall.  Step up to the
> plate and provide this most crucial data and impress us all.
> 

> Another note, You destroyed the price of Bensour by selling it for less than
> your cost at $2.80 a gram just to 

Re: [meteorite-list] moroccan fall stats

[meteoritehunter]

Well, without getting into the politics of it, it is the same country, no borders, 
same money, all maps show it, I know about Morocco taking it over but it is what it 
is. Until someone frees it, it is now Morocco. 
Mike Farmer
> Michael, Adam, Serguey, list,
> 
> Sorry to mess a round.  Western Sahara is NOT Morocco. Not at all.
> 
> History:
> Western Sahara is a country which has been invaded in 1975 by Hassan II
> troops, on its western part. ( Atlantic side) just after the Spanish
> colonial occupation ceased.
> There is an interposition force, ruled by UN, called MINURSO that tries to
> keep the country in peace, since 1976 ( if my old memory is good. )
>  A berm ( sand wall) was raised by Morocco to stop the Polisario  troops (
> the regular Western Sahara army) to free the invaded side of  its country
> 
> Geography:
> It seems to me that, according the info that gave Adam, the 16 october fall
> happened in the still free territories, under Polisario control.
> On another hand, Smara is in Western Sahara on the moroccan occupied side.
> Adams forwarded map is really clear.
> 
> Economy:
> My meteorites are cosmic material like yours !
> 
> My 2 cents,
> 
> Michel FRANCO,
> hunting in Western Sahara, among other countries.
> 
> Michel FRANCO

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> BP 16, 100 Chemin des Campènes
> 74400 Les Praz de Chamonix FRANCE
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Sergey Vasiliev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 11:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] moroccan fall stats
> 
> 
> > ok, but are you including western sahara whis is
> > morocco? and the border areas of algeria and
> > muaratania. you have been here so you know how large
> > and open the area is.
> > mike
> > --- Sergey Vasiliev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > That is four falls in the last 8 years, in an area
> > > > MUCH larger than germany
> > >
> > > Not really MUCH larger, Mike:
> > > Germany: 356,959 square kilometers.
> > > The area of Morocco is 458,730 sq km (177,120 sq
> > > mi).
> > > Regards,
> > > Sergey
> > >
> > >
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Re: [meteorite-list] Matteo and his lack of humor - nobody cares (OT)

[meteoritehunter]

This list has nothing to do with the IMCA.
Mike Farmer
> Michael F. wrote " Lurkers have no right to try and regulate what goes
> on in a list, if they do not add to that list."
> Dear Michael,
> With all due respect,the "regulations" were established by the I.M.C.A.,
> not Stan or Dave, and we all TRY to keep them. Not all people who don't
> post are lurkers.  Some just don't appreciate or dread the possible
> repercussions ( this is a good example), that can occur.
> There are other members that use only their first names or less, but do
> post, and that is OK . Just possibly? You're reading more into this than
> was intended ? I don't take criticism well either.  :  )  Regards,
> Marcie
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Matteo and his lack of humor - nobody cares

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No, I think that for you to speak up, and participate in this list, you should state 
your full name. That is only polite you know. Without a full name, who knows who you 
are? I have been on this list for almost 7 years, never heard of you. If you don't 
participate, perhaps you should not try to regulate. I have never seen a post by you 
before, so who are you? Lurkers have no right to try and regulate what goes on in a 
list if they do not add to that list. 
Mike Farmer
> I think YOU have a problem. You see only Matteo's around. Do you think you know 
> everybody or what? I agree also with stan. this is the internet.
> I'm also not defending Matteo at all, but it is enough with this !&x$
> As you said once,
> This list is for proper discussions, the type that this list was made for
> 
> Dave
> 
> "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Who are you? Another Matteo synonym?
> >Never heard of you. It is not my problem, it is all our problem.
> >Mike Farmer
> >- Original Message - 
> >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 3:31 AM
> >Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Matteo and his lack of humor - nobody cares
> >
> >
> >> Farmer,
> >>
> >> nobody cares about your problems with Matteo.
> >> THIS IS NOT RELATED TO METEORITES !
> >> Keep it off this list !
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael
> >Farmer
> >> Sent: Montag, 16. Februar 2004 05:23
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Matteo and his lack of humor
> >>
> >>
> >> http://it.geocities.com/idiotproudtom2003/
> >>
> >> Did everyone see this? Matteo showing his best side, trashing everyone who
> >has crossed him. I don't really care what an imbecile like him thinks about
> >me, but trashing some of the other people he did shows what a coward he is.
> >> Art Jones, Geoff Notkin, how could you ever think something bad about
> >either one of them?
> >> Can someone teach him how to be funny, think up something new perhaps?
> >> I would do  a page about him, but photographing a horses %$$%hole is not
> >my idea of fun.
> >> Mike Farmer
> >>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan Earthquake kills at least 300

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Ali Hmani lives in Ouijda,very close to that area. I hope he is ok, the mountain 
villages are likely devistated, Ill bet the death toll rises dramatically. 
Mike Farmer
> FYI
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[meteorite-list] Tucson news

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Hi again, it has been an extremely busy Tucson show. Friday night was the 
birthday bash, lots of new people, lots of fun.  Last night was the Blood 
auction, lots of fun, a heck of a lot of laughs, and some good deals. 
Today was Al Langs auction, not so many deals, but the pieces were excuisite, 
and I myself got a couple of superb pieces. 
It is sunny and warm here now, so the weather is perfect. 
I will be open till thursday, anyone feel free to come around. 
Mike Farmer
Inn Suites, room 184. 

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[meteorite-list] NEWS NWA 2046

[meteoritehunter]

I want to congratulate all of you who bought NWA 2046, the 
Olivine-orthopyroxene-phyric Shergottite from me. 
I have just recieved news that is going to break very soon that will make this 
meteorite far more interesting than before. You will all hear it soon enough, but it 
is likely to go on CNN. It does have something to do with the Spirit Mars 
rover...

The price is no longer valid on my website. It is being pulled from sale. 
Mike Farmer

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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson help/Trenton or Belmont

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Mark, I have a gorgeous piece of Trenton for sale in my room, with old labels. 
Mike Farmer
Inn Suites, room 184. 
> 
> It looks as though I will be missing out on Tucson for the first time in
> ten years. The resulting pain would be considerably eased, however, if I
> could locate and acquire a decent-sized (larger than micro) piece of
> Trenton (III A), Washington Co., WI.  Almost as good would be a Belmont
> (H6), Grant Co., WI. If any of you in Tucson or Tucson bound either has
> such a specimen or encounters one while there and would let me know, I
> would be most grateful.
> 
> Many thanks from the snowy northland,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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Re: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?

[meteoritehunter]

Habibi, their name is Pellison, they are French, I am sure you know them. 
Mike Farmer
>  
> hello list hell all
> all nwa will remember this day, my god what can people do to sell stone,
> what happend to this wolrd, im sick of all this lies why all this what do you 
> want,
> thanks dean thanks to all who awserd this lies , you think that the nomade do 
> not read what is on the list , they 
> go to archives and know everthing,
> my god , why all this lies  im so sick that im going to qiet
> i m tired of all the lies that people write on this list.
> im going to print this letter and give to nomade with the names of who write it
> you lies abaout nwa and you lies abaout poor nomade and they are only looking 
> for eat,
> why you do not let the nomade in there peace and desert , fight if you want but 
> let  the poor nomade in peace
> what we cant hear this time
> its a shame, 
> no and no its a shame
> who is this new loby againt nwa
> you know who will lost , with lies , no its all of us , this type letter can 
> make stoping all the stone geting out from 
> nwa , and then nothing
> why all this , why
> why
> why
> its a shame
> damn , cam this people sleep with there consciense
> if they have consciense
> i m so sick that i cam write
> bye
> 
> 
> --- Message d'origine --- 
> De:  Bernhard \ Rendelius\  Rems  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 18:46:19 +0100 
> Sujet: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism? 
> 
> Ok, now Matteo has admitted that he is Matt River.
> 
> Bernhard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
> River
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 5:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?
> 
> 
> Farmer what you make the double  game? You put the privat emails in
> public? But like, to me you said not to make it and hour make it also
> you? I wants to say that you go badly if you make therefore. However, if
> I come banned from this list hour, wants to say that it is not for null

> democratic inasmuch as I have not opened mouth and I not have 
> put
> any public email to Farmer. If instead it will be made, I have an other 
> account,
> and then an other anchor, and an other...
> 
> Farmercosa fai il doppio gioco? Metti le email private pubbliche? Ma
> 
> come, a me dicevi di non farlo e ora lo fai anche tu? Vuole dire che ti
> và 
> male se fai così. Comunque, se vengo bannato da questa lista ora vuol
> dire 
> che non è per nulla democratica visto che non ho aperto bocca mettendo 
> nessuna email pubblica. Se invece sarà fatto, fatelo pure, tanto ho un
> altro 
> account, e poi un altro ancora, e un altro...
> 
> >From: "Michael Farmer" 
> >To: 
> >Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?
> >Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 07:31:44 -0700
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" 
> >To: 
> >Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 12:01 AM
> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?
> >
> >

> > > We all  know it is Matteo, he is so stupid that he
> > > doesn't even know how to
> > > lie well.
> > > Mike Farmer
> > >
> > >
> > > shh...go go to sale your fake new diogenite and
> > > new martian hahahahanow I hope the NWA market
> > > close, I want see after what you sold
> > >
> > > =
> > > M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato
> > > Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY
> > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site:
> >http://www.mcomemeteorite.info
> > > International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140
> > > MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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[meteorite-list] Tucson show report

[meteoritehunter]

Hi everyone, another show report live from Tucson. 
There is some very nice new meteorites here at the show, no new falls though, so that 
dissapoints me. 
Some large sales have already occured, so money is there and it seems that the economy 
is coming back to life. 
I have not seen anything nice that the Moroccans brought in, although Ali Hamani has 
some great stuff as usual. 
It is nice and warm here, although they are calling for snow in Tucson on tuesday! 
I'll belive it when I see it. 
Everyone is just getting started so there is plenty to see here.
I am waiting for some of you, so let me know when you are getting here. 
Mike Farmer
from room 184 Inn Suites

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[meteorite-list] gne gne gne (fwd)

[meteoritehunter]

More of out Italian friend's logic. 
As I said, Europeans should be proud. 
I still get emails from people who say that they like Matteo. 
They must be sado-massichists. 
Mike Farmer
--  Forwarded Message:  -
From:M come Meteorite Meteorites <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: gne gne gne
Date:Sun, 1 Feb 2004 08:20:44 -0800 (PST)

what you want little idiot, uh? You are only a little
child good only for cry for every minimum
problemArt is not possible take off from the list
why I not have answer to you type your idiot method.
Close the mouths farmer, is good for you.

Not in the USA, and this list is based in the USA. If
you want to play and
change your name, do it in Europe where you can hide
behind fake names
idiot.
Art, please remove Matteo again.
Thanks from all the list in advance. It was so nice to
not have stupid
comments for just those few days.
Mike Farmer


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Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite hunting trip

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I myself an sitting at an airport awaiting another two overnight flights to take me 
11,000 miles from home. Myself and some friends are going on two week meteorite hunt. 
I will be home on the 14th of Jan, no email till then likely. 
I want to wish everyone happy and safe new years night, and drink one for us. 
I also will be selling in Tucson, in room 184 of the INN Suites. 

Michael Farmer
May the new year bring us some great new falls. Is a pallasite fall too much to ask 
for? 

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[meteorite-list] Arkansas fall report

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Hi everyone, I just got back from the "scene" of the first reported piece of the 
Monday night Arkansas fall. 
The piece that recieved so much news attention is a 200 gram fragment of slag. Not a 
meteorite as the finder so adamantly kept telling me because "the scientists and TV 
reporters said so". 
When I saw that a piece was reported found, I decided to jump on the next and last 
plane out of Tucson, I had merely 45 minutes from booking to get on the plane! I got 
to Arkansas on standby late last night and drove to my friend Gary Loyd's house. He 
has a new baby, my godson, so I found this a sufficient excuse to come whether or not 
the meteorite was real. He lives an hour and 45 minutes from Palastine. 
Anyway, the reports from the people there are that monday night a huge lightshow and 
explosion were heard, then many following booms, and people in Joneboro 45 minutes to 
the north saw the meteorite break up into many pieces as it headed south- southeast.  
That does put it exactly in line with Palastine where I went today. 
Does anyone know how close you should be to the fall site if sonic booms are heard? 
The area is prime for hunting, mostly large farms and almost all are barren right now, 
having been harvested for the winter. There are without a doubt alot of meteorites on 
the ground somewhere in that area, and hopefully some farmer will find some true 
meteorites. 
Ill spend the weekend here waiting to see if anything else turns up, but so far, no 
cigar. 
Mike Farmer
Meteoritehunter.

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[meteorite-list] Munich show

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Hi everyone, just a quick note before I head down to work here at the Munich mineral 
show. It is a huge show, 3 buildings, all with several hundres dealers. Nice museum 
exhibits including the Neuschwanstien meteorite. There are of course, alot of 
meteorites here, but virtually NOTHING from the Moroccan dealers! Each one has a small 
flat or two of chondrites almost all are the several thousand kilo NWA under so many 
names. 
Some nice historical meteorites, ALL with very high prices. Nothing in any sort of 
bulk except the maligned Shirokovsky, which the Russian owner is still selling with  
the help of a very nice display and printed information that looks like it was made in 
hollywood. That scam is with us to stay! 

More later. 
Mike Farmer

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[meteorite-list] Munich show

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Hi everyone, I am in Prague Czech Republic. I have just visited the nice museum here 
and saw the meteorite collection. Some very rare historic meteorites, nice old 
displays, 200 year old fall reports. 
I will be in Munich this weekend selling with Hans Koser in the International hall. I 
hope to see many of my European clients there. 
Thanks
Mike Farmer

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Re: [meteorite-list] What Would Nininger Do?

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By the way in no way anywhere in that email did i threaten you. 

also, i am confused, what is the problem with taking in investor money to go on 
expeditions? I never said i didnt, the people have the choice whether or not to put in 
money, i  also use my own money, you act like i am just tkaing their money for the 
whole thing, i am simply spereading the risks and rewards aroud, so that in case of 
massive failure (Like this trip) i wont suffer the entire burden. luckily in invester 
trips, that has never been the case. 

I know that Blaine Reed found that Bolivian meteorite, you cried wanting to be 
included in as one of the finders even though you were nowhere near them at the time. 
Keven, just because you were in the same country with them does not make you the 
finder, or the leader of the expedition. 

And by the way, who gives a crap what "Nininger would do" I have read all of his 
books, and they all lead me to belive that he would do exactly as I am doing. But who 
cares, the man is dead, was just another guy who loved meteorites, not God. I am in no 
way trying to be like Harvey. 

Bob is not on this list because of all the drivel, who can blame him? I think I know, 
I can see the guy's house from my own, he walkes over to visit me all the time. 

Mike Farmer
I am off now to see the Indian Museum, will file a report in a few hours:)


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[meteorite-list] India

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hello all, from Calcutta, the nastiests and most horrible city on the planet without  
doubt. i will be in the strenfield today, but there is terrible flooding here right 
now, so it may take a day or two to ascertain anything.
hopefully, the next message will be to tell how many kilos of the new fall i have:)
Mike Farmer
ps
This one may finally do me in, I hope i can survive this place.

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[meteorite-list] Next stop, India

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Hello everyone. Several things, it is not the fact that Matteo speacks his own 
language that is a problem with so many people, it is his piss-poor attitude, he only 
whines and complains, nothing ever good out of his emails. 

On the Wales fireball, I cant believe that it could be anything but a meteor, if it 
was an airplane, then it was an airplane exploding in a rather disruptive way, not 
unlike the Space shuttle Challenger. How could any airplane make that fireball and not 
be exploding? and if it exploded, we would all know about it! It was headed to sea, so 
perhaps no explosion was heard.


I am on my way to India, sitting in  an airport typing this. My next report will be 
from the strewnfield.

Thanks
Mike Farmer
Meteoritehunter

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