[meteorite-list] Any more news on the new Florida fall?
List, Maybe I missed some posts but it has been quiet about the new Florida fall at the end of January. Anyone know how this is shaking out? Cheers, Mike Tettenborn Peace and Love M&M tett __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine
Elton, It is behaviour like yours that turns people away form this list. From your comments I have a clear picture of what kind of person you are. Mike Tettenborn On 02/04/2011 12:52 PM, MEM wrote: (NOTE: waste, fraud , and abuse of public funds is a matter of public interest) Steve, If you were to ask, I am sure some folks here on the list would "rent" you some meteorites-- Netflix-style-- you can swap out every 2 weeks and save all the hassle of buying high and selling low. However I need to ask: are you using your unemployment check again to buy meteorites? We both know the Illinois Department of Labor doesn't look kindly on using unemployment funds to purchase inventory for business-activity--and they consider buying and selling business-activity whether declared or not. In fact one isn't eligible for unemployment if they run their own business, and if it is an unlicensed business. That gets into the fraud arenaagain. One may not own/operate a "business" while drawing unemployment compensation--and...well you already know that don't you? You may not be earning "wages" but you aren't unemployed, if you are buying and selling. Some folks have the the IDOL Fraud Hotline on speed dial. The messages you post on the internet are evidence that you engage in buying and selling during times of unemployment. I don't know the penalty of a conviction on this but is it really worth the risk and given everything else you say is on your plate do you really want to take groceries money to spend $350-600 for something you will eventually sell for $70-80 out of desperation. Elton - Original Message From: steve arnold To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 9:04:52 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] tatahouine Good morning list.Anyone have any tatahouine available?Say in the 10 to 20 gram range and could give me a good deal? Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites and Thin sections for sale!
Greg, What can you tell me about your thin sections? I am interested in your lunars and NWA 6292. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn On 29/03/2011 6:10 PM, Greg Catterton wrote: HI to all, hope everyone is doing good. I am clearing out some material and am offering a nice sale - Lunar Thin sections - $150.00 Tatahouine thin sections - $80.00 NWA 6292 thin sections... paired with NWA 5400 - $150.00 NWA CO3 thin sections - $100.00 Thuathe $6 per gram Tatahouine $12 per gram and up (depending on fragment size) Camel Donga $16 per gram Sikhote Alin individuals, very nice features $3 per gram NWA 1465 $8 per gram NWA 869 $1.50 per gram Pics on request. Thanks for looking. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Udei Station vs. NWA4024 winonaite types
List, When stumbling across an ad for NWA4024 I saw pictures of the meteorite and immediately thought how similar it looks to Udei Station. Comparing the pics of NWA4024 and my slices of Udei Station reveal very similar compositions. However, NWA4024 is classiifed as a winonite where as Udei Station is classified as an IAB iron. Further research shows that it is likely Udei Station and other IAB irons along with Winonites come from the same parent body. My question is, what is the dividing line between Winonites and IAB's? How does one decide which group the meteorite should fall? Is it %Fe? Thanks for any help and Cheers! Mike Tettenborn __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What is it? NWAxxx???
The darkness could be impact melt or close to it (High shock). Must be an OC with the large chondrule showing. I have a slice of NWA4588 which is an L5-S5 with a matrix that looks bang on to yours. Cheers! tett Owen Sound, Ontario On 19/02/2011 6:51 PM, Jim Wooddell wrote: Hi all! This was in the pile of NWA space rocks I bought at Tucson. It is much darker in color, with less free metal and few chondrules. Any idea as to what it might be? http://desertsunburn.no-ip.org/4sale/unwa4gC.jpg http://desertsunburn.no-ip.org/4sale/unwa4gB.jpg Thanks for any input! Jim http://desertsunburn.no-ip.org __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Surface Area or Weight
Count, Thank you for your comprehensive list. I do think you forgot one element. Aesthetics. Gujba, as well as being a fall and of a rare class, is also extremely beautiful. My small slice is one of the crown jewels in my collection. My slice of Abee is also one of my treasures for similar reasons. I have turned down some rare types (not thrilled with brachinites) because, although rare and hard to get, are just not pretty enough at the prices being asked. For me, some prices are too high for material that doesn't sparkle or show off neat features and interesting colours. I still believe Gujba is one of the best buys out there. Also, fortunately, there are some wonderful buys in OC's which show of gorgeous chondrules. Aesthetics may not play a significant roll for many but it is high on my list of what I value in meteorites. My selection criteria list would be slightly different than yours and the order can change a little. Here it is. Weight of the specimen. Historic Aesthetics Provenance. Total weight and rarity of the classification. A fall. An oriented crusted individual. A crusted individual. A polished crusted endcut. A polished crusted full slice. (depending on size, this may move up even above an individual. Who wants a Gujba individual over a slice?) A polished crusted partial slice. A frag. A bessie spec, or micro. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn On 11/02/2011 8:19 PM, Count Deiro wrote: Greg and List, I make the following assumptions as to Fair Market Value if we are dealing with a representative, equal weight, specimen of the same classification. Ranking in order of desireability and value to an average collector. Not a specialist in analysis, or classification, or other defined, non collecting, motivation. Total weight and rarity of the classification. Weight of the specimen. Provenance. Historic A hammer. A fall. An oriented crusted individual. A crusted individual. A polished crusted endcut. A polished crusted full slice. A polished crusted partial slice. A frag. A bessie spec, or micro. Thin sections are a world of their own and can be of more value in weight than an individual. Preparation in cut, etch and polishing materially affect value. Higher ratios of field to dimension increase value in slices. Mounting, info cards and packaging affect value of all specimens. The current availability is always an up and down factor. Stone meteorites tend to bring more money per gram than mesosiderites, or irons, all things considered. particularly in the rarer classifications. These are my off the top of my head assumptions based on the past two years of blowing my entire spendable income of meteorites. Go ahead! Tear it apart! Count Deiro IMCA 3536 MetSoc -Original Message- From: Thunder Stone Sent: Feb 11, 2011 2:51 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Surface Area or Weight All: I think this may have been discussed on the list in the past, but I'm not sure. When it comes to meteorite’s value (especially rare types) is the value based solely on the weight of the specimen? Or can the total surface area be a factor? Take this as an example: Say you have 1 gram specimen of a rare type (perhaps planetary) which is cubed shaped and relatively small, and the second is 0.50 grams and is cut very thin, so it has a very large surface area and is very visually esthetic; how would they compare in value? I know complete stones may be more, and specimens with nice fusion crusts are also more, so there are cases where the same weight may have different values. I'm just curious, Greg S. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Surface Area or Weight
Count, Thank you for your comprehensive list. I do think you forgot one element. Aesthetics. Gujba, as well as being a fall and of a rare class, is also extremely beautiful. My small slice is one of the crown jewels in my collection. My slice of Abee is also one of my treasures for similar reasons. I have turned down some rare types (not thrilled with brachinites) because, although rare and hard to get, are just not pretty enough at the prices being asked. For me, some prices are too high for material that doesn't sparkle or show off neat features and interesting colours. I still believe Gujba is one of the best buys out there. Also, fortunately, there are some wonderful buys in OC's which show of gorgeous chondrules. Aesthetics may not play a significant roll for many but it is high on my list of what I value in meteorites. My selection criteria list would be slightly different than yours and the order can change a little. Here it is. Weight of the specimen. Historic Aesthetics Provenance. Total weight and rarity of the classification. A fall. An oriented crusted individual. A crusted individual. A polished crusted endcut. A polished crusted full slice. (depending on size, this may move up even above an individual. Who wants a Gujba individual over a slice?) A polished crusted partial slice. A frag. A bessie spec, or micro. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn On 11/02/2011 8:19 PM, Count Deiro wrote: Greg and List, I make the following assumptions as to Fair Market Value if we are dealing with a representative, equal weight, specimen of the same classification. Ranking in order of desireability and value to an average collector. Not a specialist in analysis, or classification, or other defined, non collecting, motivation. Total weight and rarity of the classification. Weight of the specimen. Provenance. Historic A hammer. A fall. An oriented crusted individual. A crusted individual. A polished crusted endcut. A polished crusted full slice. A polished crusted partial slice. A frag. A bessie spec, or micro. Thin sections are a world of their own and can be of more value in weight than an individual. Preparation in cut, etch and polishing materially affect value. Higher ratios of field to dimension increase value in slices. Mounting, info cards and packaging affect value of all specimens. The current availability is always an up and down factor. Stone meteorites tend to bring more money per gram than mesosiderites, or irons, all things considered. particularly in the rarer classifications. These are my off the top of my head assumptions based on the past two years of blowing my entire spendable income of meteorites. Go ahead! Tear it apart! Count Deiro IMCA 3536 MetSoc -Original Message- From: Thunder Stone Sent: Feb 11, 2011 2:51 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Surface Area or Weight All: I think this may have been discussed on the list in the past, but I'm not sure. When it comes to meteorite’s value (especially rare types) is the value based solely on the weight of the specimen? Or can the total surface area be a factor? Take this as an example: Say you have 1 gram specimen of a rare type (perhaps planetary) which is cubed shaped and relatively small, and the second is 0.50 grams and is cut very thin, so it has a very large surface area and is very visually esthetic; how would they compare in value? I know complete stones may be more, and specimens with nice fusion crusts are also more, so there are cases where the same weight may have different values. I'm just curious, Greg S. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay?
Not so fast. That label is distributed freely to many equipment and material suppliers to JPL and other NASA affiliates. I received a bunch of those stickers when I was developing a fan used on the International Space Station. I now have that sticker on my telescope case. Just because he shows the stone with the label does not turn that stone into lunar material. Again, I will bet this is bogus. Cheers! tett On 04/02/2011 3:34 PM, Steve Schoner wrote: Upon looking at this auction again, I am now suspecting that this sample might be the real thing. That label appears to be a NASA control label specific to space materials, which in this case is the supposed "moon rock." My question now is this... There appears to be a small photo of the specimen in question on this control label. If so, that would further define this specimen as authentic. Could this be a research specimen that somehow escaped government control? Something to think about. But all said, with the legal aspects of legit ownership, I would be reluctant to bid on it... Steve Schoner -- Original Message -- From: To: Steve Schoner, countde...@earthlink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay? Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:51:48 -0500 Steve, "Where is the beef" Sure , we would all love to have what you have but , what is the difference between what you have and anybody else? Say, I was the king of England and my good buddy the President of the USA gave me a genuine moon rock. And he did give away plenty. I decide to sell it on EBay. Where is the law that says that is illegal? And how does that differ from what you have? Is it because you did not get caught buying yours? Why is it okay for you to buy moon material and not others? Again, "show us the beef"? What exactly does the law state and how do you know this? Normally , when people make statements they want to back them up with evidence? I believe you I just want to read it myself. And I'm quite sure you have piqued the interest of others as well. Yes, I am home getting my frozen pipes replaced. Waiting for the B-bash tonight. Best regards, Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Steve Schoner wrote: Yes, Count, I remember that day in December two years ago when I won it. My heart was beating fast as I watched the seconds go expecting this piece of tape jumping from hundreds to thousands in the last seconds. 2 seconds before closing I placed my bid... I could not believe it... I sniped it for $451.00! (BTW: The worst time to place items on Ebay is the Holidays, it is a buyer's market and a sellers loss.) The "Moon Dust" tape and Documents of Authenticity from "Spaceflori" came on Dec 18th, 2009. I spent days after looking at this tiny piece of tape under my microscope, amazed to see the spherical glass beads, green, orange, beige glass beads, other lunar dust particles, and even a few fibers of beta cloth from the glove that Neal Armstrong wore when he picked Magazine S from the surface of the moon. As for that piece of reputed "Apollo moon rock" on Ebay now... As I wrote before... Even a piece reputed to be from the Apollo program can be confiscated by NASA. And the buyer should he or she win it, is not exempt from such confiscation either. The seller is on dangerous legal ground. Steve Schoner -- Original Message -- From: Count Deiro To: Steve Schoner, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: m...@miataylor.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay? Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 03:16:12 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Hi Steve and List, Thanks for posting the link to your very informative video. Congratulations on what must be one of the all time best "sniping" incidents on EBay. You do have the "real deal". Listers might not know that the international auction house, Sothebys, auctioned dust from a Russian unmanned lunar mission. In 1970 the Soviet Union sent an automated sample-return mission to the moon and three fragments collected on this mission, weighing just 200 milligrams, were sold by Sotheby's Vice Chairman, David Redden, for $442.500.00. The sale was held in 1993, so in today's dollars we are probably talking near a million. You lucky dog. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Steve Schoner Sent: Feb 3, 2011 10:10 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay? As much as I know it is illegal to even present an item such as this rock on Ebay as an authentic Apollo recovered moon rock. Even if it is not, just to state that it is is enough to have it confiscated by the U.S. Government. A case in point was a recent desk mount with a pen holder that had a molded plastic transparent rock that supposedly had Apollo recovered lunar
Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay?
Total B.S. As soon as he wrote, "I showed it to a geologist.." I knew this was fake. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn On 03/02/2011 7:52 PM, Matson, Robert D. wrote: If the sample is real, it is an extraordinarily large one (comparatively speaking). As such, it's surprising that someone would be dumb enough to try to sell it on eBay. --Rob -Original Message- From: Thunder Stone [mailto:stanleygr...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 4:42 PM To: mike; Matson, Robert D. Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay? All: Appears it is illegal to own one - but as to it being real - probable? http://blogs.airspacemag.com/moon/2009/07/can-you-legally-own-a-piece-of-the-moon/ Can You Legally Own a Piece of the Moon? A Moon rock on Mt. Everest: Not for keeps Mr. Ian Sheffield of Edinburgh Scotland is miffed. He claims to have not one, but two dust samples of the Moon-one from the Apollo 11 mission and another from the Apollo 15 mission. He explains that he bought these lunar samples "from a dealer" about 3 years ago. The article does not indicate how much he paid for them, but he does allow that each is valued at "around £2000" (about $3300) each. A problem arose when he planned to display his samples to the public. He apparently wrote to NASA asking if he could exhibit them. To his astonishment, NASA refused to give him permission and demanded the return of the samples, claiming that the lunar dust in his possession was property of the United States government. Mr. Sheffield's story of how the samples came into his possession is interesting. He states the dust came off a camera film pack to which a technician in the Lunar Receiving Laboratory was accidentally exposed. Because no one was sure the lunar samples would not contain some possible primitive (and pathogenic) organisms when the Apollo 11 crew first returned to Earth, they had to spend three weeks in quarantine. Anybody in the LRL exposed to lunar material was compelled to join the astronauts in their quarantine. The technician who was exposed went into isolation and (the story claims) upon his release, "was given the dust as a memento." My antennae went up at this point. No lunar samples are "given" to private individuals. Each piece of the Moon returned by the Apollo astronauts is carefully accounted for and resides in the Lunar Curatorial Facility in Houston, where they are kept in two separate hurricane-proof vaults. Many lunar samples are loaned to scientific institutions for study. The only lunar samples given away (of which I am aware) were to about a hundred national leaders during President Nixon's 1969 world tour. The beautiful "Space Window" in the Washington National Cathedral, honoring man's landing on the Moon, holds a 7.18-gram basalt from Mare Tranquillitatis, on loan to the Cathedral. Other moon rocks were presented to the Apollo astronauts (and Walter Cronkite) in 2004. However, each plaque came with a catch: the lunar samples can not be personally held by the recipients, and must be displayed at a local school or museum. Recently, Astronaut Scott Parazynski was loaned a sample of the Moon's regolith that he carried to the summit of Mount Everest. Some diplomatic gifts of lunar samples have found their way onto the black market. A notorious case is a sample presented to the people of Honduras back in 1969. This sample turned up during a NASA Inspector General "sting" which was designed to catch dealers of fake lunar samples. To the agents' surprise, they were offered a genuine lunar rock: asking price, $5 million. A meeting was arranged and the rock (and presumably, the seller) was seized. Another lunar sample was stolen from a museum in Malta between 1990 and 1994; it was recovered in another sting operation in 1998. The federal government forbids private ownership of any Apollo sample. Yet, such samples show up every now and then. The most common form they take is dust stuck to adhesive tape (an easy way to "clean" the surface of some exposed sample container, tool, or space suit used on the lunar surface). Mr. Sheffield's sample is likely to be one of these pieces. Its status, I was surprised to find out, is legally uncertain. Although NASA has sued in court to recover any such bootleg sample, no prosecution has succeeded, except for those caught (literally) in the act of theft. In an embarrassing incident for NASA, a summer intern and two companions carried a safe full of lunar samples out of a building at Johnson Space Center (as Dave Barry would say, I am not making this up). They were apprehended while trying to sell them at bargain basement prices and subsequently prosecuted. It was rumored for years that several of the Apollo astronauts held samples from their respective missions. If they did, it was probably inadvertent-the lunar dust is extremely adhesive and it is possible that smudges of lunar dust cl
Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) 4.8 gram fragment new orleans "HAMMER"
On 20/01/2011 6:51 AM, steve arnold wrote: "Hi list.I hope everyone is having a good new year.I am.Down 17 lbs. since the 2nd and I have a piece to sell" Steve, this is just plain scary! ;>) Congratulations on the weight loss. I hope this is only because of a successful diet and/or exercise program. Happy New Year to you too! Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WG: Asian falls
Martin, I believe Canadian export practice is now working not only because the rules were well thought out but also because the people in charge are level headed and thoughtful. Thanks Monica and thanks Ian! The crater forming meteorite is Whitecourt. A new iron find which fell about 1000 years ago and left a small crater in Northern Alberta. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Canada On 29/12/2010 9:57 PM, Martin Altmann wrote: Because I'm very content with Canada. They learned from the Tagish Lake debacle. And eased afterwards the strictest interpretation, their laws allowed in practice. With better results following. Buzzard Coulee got therefore a much higher tkw and a better availability for everyone, institutions and private collectors; you saw how suddenly new masses of Springwater were found; or remember that crater building iron - I forgot the name. Never the right of ownership was challenged by Canadian laws, but only what finders could do with their property, in past leading to such bizarre situations, that the owner of the second St-Robert stone, desperately wanted to sell, but was not able to do so, because no Canadian institute was interested in, although he asked not more the Canadian survey had paid for the 1st stone, but on the other hand, wasn't allowed to sell it outside of Canada - a legally more than unsatisfying situation. Meanwhile Canadian institutes allow export clearance for all stones, they don't need. O.k. it's somewhat uncomfortable and takes time, but it is fair. They pay very fair prices for Canadian finds, if they decide to acquire them. (not anymore that funny reward proposed on radio: 100$ per stone found of Tagish Lake ;-). And you don't have to forget, that in contrast to such countries with prohibition like Algeria, Poland, Argentina with all in all no scientific interest in meteorites, or countries with constitutionally more than problematic laws like Australia and so on, the Canadians maintain a real good meteorite science and a vivid institutional collecting, of course also including the important hot desert finds. So all in all, Canada would be a very good example (unfortunately so far the ooonly example) for meteoricists like e.g. Bevan, suffering under the unreasonable legislation of their countries, how it could be done better. Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Chris Spratt Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Dezember 2010 01:26 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] WG: Asian falls You left out Canada. Chris (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Merry Christmas
To all my friends on the list, I hope all have a Very Merry Christmas and that 2011 turns out to be a wonderful year with new finds and falls gracing your collections. Peace, Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Off topic- the weather IS getting worse
Well yesterday all roads closed so could not get to work. Blew snow at 7am and then again at 7pm. Today the same as well as having to rake the carport roof and then go over to our church to blow even more snow. My boy down in London (Ontario) had 7 feet of snow in a couple of days. More snow is on the way. Southern Ontario has been hit hard. Fortunatley no tornados. That would be really wild to have tons of snow and a tornado. Cheers Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario On 14/12/2010 6:49 PM, Edwin Thompson wrote: Hi folks, Oregon got slammed by a tornado today just 30 miles south of our home. We watched the storm come and go. It was awesome! Very very unusual for this region. They say it is a cold front from Alaska colliding with the Pineapple Express; a warm storm that comes up from Hawaii and has been hitting us for a week with warm air and 6 inches of rain in the past 5 days. They are telling us to expect more tonight so we're keeping the fingers crossed. Saw my first car destroyed by hail while visiting Marlin Cilz in Montana last month. Now we have cars all around us with major hail damage. The news says another major cell is coming this way right now. This is when the meteorites sneak in unseen. Letting you folks know to the East that weather is on it's way! E.T. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men in Canada
Yup! available from ItunesBUT NOT IN CANADA! Lots of great episodes available in the States but we need to suffer north of the border. Probably because they are showing for the first time on the Candian Science Channel ( Which I don't get ;>() Hopefully they will be released in Cananda in the near future. Cheers Mike Tettenborn On 22/11/2010 9:49 AM, petersche...@rcn.com wrote: Hi, You can watch the amazon videos on your computer. The videos are also available from Itunes. Peter __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt
Does look like the real deal. Congratulations! Most people find small 10 gram to 50 gram pieces. ~5 lbs is amazing. Please let us know if it gets classified or at least guessed at by an expert. Cheers, Mike Tettenborn On 19/11/2010 6:26 PM, Guenther wrote: Here is a short story about a first time meteorite hunting experience. I live in an area of Canada that has not yielded any meteorites to speak of so I knew I needed to look at hotter, dryer areas for the best chance at a successful first trip. I did over a year of research and planning before I finally made my decision where to go. I read countless success stories and watched a lot of meteorite hunting shows and videos on YouTube before narrowing my search. Almost overwhelmed at all the places I could try, a few weeks before the much awaited trip I decided on Nevada. Besides the cheap airfare to Vegas, there were lots of success stories near Vegas. I had a few places mapped out in Nevada, Arizona and California that I wanted to hunt over the 9 day trip. After finding nothing in 5 days of my lone journey it was time to pick up my son who flew in to join me for the final 4 days. Considering this was his first time too, I am sure he wasn't too confident since his dad hadn't found anything yet. But he and I both knew we were saving the best place for last! This was the part of the trip we were both anticipating because our destination several hours away would be to a dry lake bed that we knew had yielded some meteorites just recently. Since it was supposed to be a secret location, we were confident that if there were still any meteorites left, we would find some. It rained a lot on the way so we were concerned about how bad it might be on the lake bed. We arrived at the dry lake area near dark so all we wanted to do the first day was figure out how to get to the lake since there were no clear roads to access it. We could hardly wait to get out there the next morning bright and early. We finally made it to the lake bed at about 9:00am after a muddy trek and nearly 2 hours travel from the motel. The rain had definitely made it slippery but we were surprises that it wasn't actually too bad on the lake bed itself. The first day didn't yield anything special except a really fun time. My son found a complete dried out coyote skull that he kept and an arrow head. We also found a several rocks that drew our magnets but they were obviously not meteorites because of deep, sharp cavities and what we would soon discover over the next couple of days, this was a common rock in the area. We usually parked and then walked for a few hours at a time and when we started to get tired, we would just drive the truck during our rests. It was during one of these drives that I happen to look to my left and noticed what I thought was another cow patty. I stopped and the first thing I did when I got out was kick it. It didn't move. I don't remember what I said but my son knew that I was excited about something. I picked it up and it felt like 5 pounds. It was unusually heavy compared to the other rocks. I had no doubt it would draw the magnet but it was surprising to see it stick so hard. This was the last hour of the last day of the trip and all we could think is how lucky we had been to find our first meteorite and to top it off, one so big! When we got home I still thought that we had been on the right lake bed. I just couldn't wait to tell everyone about our success! I looked up someone who has excellent knowledge of meteorites and emailed him the pictures. He wasn't quite convinced and so he had me take some more pictures. To my delight, he emailed me back a "congratulations". It was only after doing some more research about the lake bed that I realized we were 100 miles away from the lake bed we had researched. In a way I am sort of glad we went to the wrong lake bed but I'm happy we didn't know at the time. I don't know if we discovered a new meteorite fall but it is fun to think we did. Ignorance is bliss. A few pictures: http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM1.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM2.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM3.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM4.jpg. Abe Guenther __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA) IS paired to NWA 5400 !
Bernd wrote: I don't collect meteorites for investment but for the pure joy of holding a piece from the depths of the solar system (and beyond) in my hands and study it (visually and microscopically). Bravo Bernd. It is your love for these stones that has inspired me to enrich my knowledge (and collection) of meteorites. If I were to worry about the money side of things then I am sure my passion would die. Mike Tettenborn Deutschland in zwei Wochen! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Celtic coin depicting comet?
Or a fish jumping out of the water. That would be cool should this turn out to be a shooting star or meteoroid. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Also porud owner of some NWA 6292 On 28/09/2010 4:58 PM, Yinan Wang wrote: Just trying to get some opinions. I recently got a batch of celtic coins from a french hoard in trade for some fossils. Two of the coins seem to have some interesting symbolism; what appears to be a comet over two mountains. Or perhaps that my interpretation. See for yourself; http://pics.livejournal.com/thefossiladdict/pic/000azspb Feedback? I'll try to get some better pictures later. -Yinan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Other hobbies?
Alex, You had me at single malt whiskies! One of my hobbies. Motorcycles (off road and on road) and Origami are my others besides meteorties and thin sections. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn On 15/09/2010 6:58 PM, Alexander Seidel wrote: Astronomy, observational (still to buy a real good telescope) Astronomy, theoretical (my professional beginnings with a thesis) Meteorite hardware, the real stuff (my passion for decades) Meteorite thin sections, the glass thing (my passion since 1992) Meteorite books, the many-pages-thing (my younger passion) Travelling (my all-time-passion) Satellite observing (hobby with 2 COSPAR stations 1969 - 1990s, now over) Good food, liquid: especially all sorts of beer, and single malt whiskies Good food, non-liquid: all local specialities, preferred mediterranean Feeling more sort of a lazy bone than a work-aholic, yet loving the job.. My wife Silvia, our dog Ronja, my cat Trixi - well you can´t really call these a hobby, rather they are an essential part of your own life (...and sometimes hard labo(u)r), yes!) :-) Alex Berlin/Germany __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men on American Chopper Thursday on TLC
Steve, Now that is cool. My two passions are meteroties and motorcycles. Both keep me in the poor house and you can nevert have too many of either. Now combine in one episode! Will see if I can get it taped from the States Cheers and Concratulations on your show. Mike Tettenborn On 31/08/2010 11:38 AM, meteorh...@aol.com wrote: All, Greetings from Sunny London. Finally a break in our shooting of the second season of Meteorite Men, just in time to get home to watch some TV. Just as a quick heads up, Geoff and I are going to be guests on American Chopper this Thursday on TLC. For those who don't know, we get our meteorite bike from Orange County Choppers so it should be fun. Steve Arnold Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Martin Altmann" Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:48:18 To: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE? Hi Shawn, I think, you can answer some of your questions by yourself. Outstretch your arm. On your extended arm look on the tip of your little finger. The finger nail of your pinky is the Earth. Imagine, your room has no walls - or go in the garden. 250 yards away from your fingernail, that's where the meteorites come from. So it's possibly not so important, where exactly on your fingernail they will hit. ...and as strained you'll squint your eyes, it's impossible to match a Shawn, a Mike, an Aziz, a Martin, a Bevan... on your nail :-) Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Shawn Alan Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. August 2010 03:25 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE? Hello Listers, I was doing an Internet search today on meteorites and came across a write up about NWA meteorites. I would have to say it was a good write up considering there isn't much about the history of NWA's on the Internet. The write up covered topics from the NWA gold rush, to how this affected sales and peoples desert meteorite collections, and how NWA meteorites by some can be seen as inferior to other meteorites. All these points do bring up some interesting view points in the meteorite community. I wonder what peoples take is on NWA meteorites and how the classification works or doesn't work with some finds? Why I ask this is because some of the NWA meteorites on eBay are NWA xxx meteorites, meaning those meteorites haven't been classified and probably wont. Now to me for every NWA meteorite excluding the Lunar and Martian meteorites could be almost unique in its owe if there is only a select few people that get these stones classified, making the NWA meteorite market confusing and regulated by only classifying certain meteorites and disregarding others. And as for selling NWA meteorites how does one determine the price point when the TKW and location is unknown? Is it to be or not to be when collecting NWA meteorites. this draw back could affect the classification and make it more confusing compared to finds in the US and Europe. If I went to the Muffin strewn field and found some meteorites, I wouldn't have to get them classified because of the documentation of a fall being there. But on the other hand, if I went to Africa and found some meteorites I would be SOL and the only way I could know what the meteorite was is if I got it classified, which I am not sure how much that costs, but I bet it can be a pretty penny depending what your getting done on it. Now could this be a problem in some peoples eyes why they think NWA's might be questionable because locations cant be accountable? And from a collectors stand point what features does one collect NWA's? From my take it seems like that some NWA meteorite are unique in its own way by rarity or uniqueness cause of lack there of, and because of the way NWA's are collected, cant this affecting price point and investment for ones collection? Here is an abstract from the write up about NWA's NWAs: Second Class Meteorites? By Norbert Classen, May 2003 On the collector's market, the prices of most Northwest African meteorites are still dropping while witnessed falls and historic specimens are getting more expensive. Are NWA meteorites less valuable, or is it a subliminal form of chauvinism making some people treat them like second class meteorites? The NWA Dilemma In the late 1990s, an increasing number of meteorites from the hot deserts of northwest Africa hit the market, most of them having been recovered by so-called "nomads", i.e. by native people from Morocco and Western Sahara. After having acquired several meteorites at the local markets, the French fossil hunters, Bruno Fectay and Carine Bidaut, started to educate their local team not only to look for fossils, but also for meteorites - with great success
Re: [meteorite-list] Iron meteorite inclusion question
Beautiful slice. And, an excellent picture. My vote is also graphite. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn On 19/08/2010 9:25 PM, Yinan Wang wrote: A couple of people asked for a better picture, so here it is; http://pics.livejournal.com/thefossiladdict/pic/000aypd1 Thanks for help in advance! -Yinan On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:04 PM, wrote: Wang, Very nice specimen. Wish it was in my cabinet. In your first message you had the descriptions of the inclusions correct. Best regards, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Yinan Wang Sent: Aug 19, 2010 8:58 PM To: Galactic Stone& Ironworks Cc: METEORITE LIST Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Iron meteorite inclusion question Here's a rough picture of the slice, any suggestions? http://pics.livejournal.com/thefossiladdict/pic/000axxf0 -Yinan On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Galactic Stone& Ironworks wrote: Hi Yinan, The dark inclusions could be graphite. Troilite often has a "brassy" coloration to it. Do you have a photo of the slice? Best regards, MikeG On 8/19/10, Yinan Wang wrote: Hi everyone, simple question: In an iron meteorite, when etched, what do the troilite and schreibersite inclusions look like? I have a slice of canyon diablo and I'm seeing dark round nodules (the troilite) and silvery dendritic material (schreibersite?). Which is which? Thanks, Yinan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone& Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: Dho 007
List, Since the beauty of Dhofar 007 was mentioned I thought I would offer a slice I have available. 3.4 gram part slice with a nice crust edge showing. A stunning piece. $50 and free shipping to North America. $55 and free shipping to Europe $58 and free shipping to the rest of the world. 1st offer gets it. Here is a pic: http://lh6.ggpht.com/_fvv_KTT4Ly0/TCzH3WJwyII/BP0/D90wJemX9M4/s800/dhofar%20007%203_4%20ps.jpg Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Happy Canada Day!!! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What types of meteorites do you collect?
Gary, From your post it really should be What don't you collect. ;>) I guess you may not have too many martian or lunars. I collect similar to you except I don't go for too many irons. Just have a couple to show people and sxplain the broad range of meteorites. Chondrites of all shorts (especially W0 unequilibrated) and HEDs. I too love Dho 007 Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Gary Fujihara wrote: Greg poses a good question for the list: what types of meteorites do you collect the most and are most interested in, and why? Well, being far too scatterbrained to choose only one type, I have many interests. I love carbonaceous chondrites, and among them CM and CVs in particular (I love the smell of Murchison in the morning ;^) For achondrites, I collect HEDs a lot, and love brecciated cumulate eucrites like Dho 007. WIth respect to ordinary chondrites, I love any unequilibrated stone, and type 3s of any classification float my boat. Oh, and last but not least, I love big, regmaglyped complete irons of all kinds. There is something about a large iron meteorite that captures the attention and imagination of most people. gary This brings up another idea for a thread: What class or type of meteorite to you collect the most and are most interested it? I myself like rare ungrouped achondrites and my favorite is the Angrites. Greg S. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Name?
Yes, the NomCom has final say but I believe they do listen to what is spread on this list and elsewhere as well as to what the original finders have to say. If it falls in there guidelines (whatever those are) then suggestions spread around may influence what the stone is called. Pretty sure Buzzard Coulee's name was influenced by the finders and by this list. Cheers! tett Jeff Kuyken wrote: Exactly. I think past falls have shown us that there is no point trying to push one name over another. Amgala... ooops I mean Oum Dreyga is a perfect example of that and dare I mention West... ooops... sorry... Ash Creek! ;-) Anyhow, I thought it was generally the first person submitting the classification/meteorite who got the rights (within reason). Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: "al mitt" To: Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Name? Greetings, It will be called what the Nomenclature Committee decides to name it as naming has always been done in the past. Dr. Jeff Grossman made mention the name Livingston would probably not be used due to conflict with other named specimens. Best! --AL Mitterling - Original Message - From: "Shawn Alan" To: Meteorite-List Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Name? Hello Listers, I think the name of the meteorite should be Livingston because wasnt that the first place a meteorite was found and the media has been talking about that town. Plus it seems like that was ground zero the first couple of days when everyone rushed into WI. Shawn Alan Jeff Grossman wrote on April 17th: I see everybody starting to call this fall "Livingston"... but this is not likely to be accepted as the name since there are already meteorites named Livingston (Montana) and Livingston (Tennessee). Jeff [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Name? James Balister balisterjames at att.net Fri May 7 18:06:46 EDT 2010 Previous message: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Name? Next message: [meteorite-list] OT- color/camera issues Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] You all know that we gotta call it the Livingston strewn field. In fact we should start a new nameing process where all meteorites that are from a strewn field should have a large S after it. Regardless of the name of the rock. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WI fall price...wow!
Wow! Common chondrite going for $150/gm. Even though it is a hammer and a recent fall this price is nuts. Prices are sky rocketing. My theory is that "Meteorite Men" have give some much new exposure to meteorites that there are far too many buyers for what is out there. Sure glad I started collecting in 96. tett ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote: Highest price I have seen so far...amazing what difference being a 'hammer' makes! Great find Michael. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200466135832&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:GB:1123 I'm amazed that some of the farmers/locals out there havn't tried putting some of their own on ebay...perhaps they will if they see this? Graham, UK __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Jim Baxter finds his first meteorites from the April 14, 2010 Wisconsin fireball!
Congrats Jim! The big one looks like it has a nice roll over lip. Is that what I see? Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Michael Johnson wrote: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/jim_baxter.html --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT - Armchair meteorite hunt - Spot the Meteorite
I believe I can see two. Possibly a third one but not as confident on that one. Mike Tettenborn Is there a prize? McCartney Taylor wrote: How many meteorites do you see? http://outofabluesky.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=97 The photo is at full native resolution to give you the best chance to spot'em. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Buzzard Coulee/export permits
Very incorrect. All Buzzard Coulee as well as any other Canadian meteorite must be sent with a permit. It takes some time but very little cost to get the permit. The officials I dealt with were very friendly and helpful making the experience pleasant if not lengthy. The seller can probably get away with shipping these across the boarder but the stones are more valuable if they have proper export documentation. If the seller is caught then they risk fines and losing the stones. Cheers! tett . Linton Rohr wrote: Well, the seller says... "I was told that if they are rocks for study wasn/t nessary reply I/m not sure I have no permits" I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that is incorrect. Anybody know for sure? Linton - Original Message - From: "Linton Rohr" To: "Jason Utas" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? Jason, Oh, I see. It may have been listed in Canada, but it's certainly visible here. Is that due to the "worldwide" shipping option? Regardless, I've inquired into the export permits, but have yet to receive a response. Linton - Original Message - From: "Jason Utas" To: "Meteorite-list" ; "Linton Rohr" Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? Hello Linton, Not at all - but it wasn't really an issue. We have some friends up in Canada and the thought was to have the stones sent to them, apply for a permit, and wait it out. But note that they're listed on ebay Canada, not visible to any other ebay sites. That makes it seem to me as though they might not have permits...but if you're interested, it seems to me that asking them directly could clear things right up. Regards, Jason On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Linton Rohr wrote: Well Jason, I certainly could be wrong. I just hate to see anybody here get burned. My eyes can't tell for sure that those are fresh, fusion-crusted stones, as opposed to little black earth rocks, due to the photo quality. They do look somewhat probable though, I'll admit. The larger problem to me, is the export permit. Was there any mention of that when you spoke? Linton - Original Message - From: "Jason Utas" To: "Meteorite-list" Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? Melanie, Linton, The photos depict what are clearly fresh stony meteorites, regardless of their quality (viz., the photos'). This seller is a local and has been selling Buzzard Coulee stones since shortly after the fall. I've spoken with them on a few occasions, and, while I haven't actually purchased any stones, they do seem to be on the level. Regards, Jason On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Linton Rohr wrote: Melanie, No, I do not know the seller. The poor quality photos are just a nuisance. The text indicates to me that the seller does not know meteorites. Sounds like he took a few notes from someone elses legitimate ad. No mention of export permits is a giant red flag, though. You could always ask him/her about that. I almost did. The price/gram is sure a lot lower though, eh? Almost too good to be true, isn't it... And you know what they say about that! Linton - Original Message - From: "Melanie Matthews" To: "Meteorite List" Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:59 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? http://shop.ebay.ca/306krista/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340 Worldwide shipping and no mention of an export permit for any of them? Anyone here know this person and if he/she is for real? --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/me
Re: [meteorite-list] A Heads-Up: Another important article on Carancas in MAPS 44-12, 2009
Bernd, It is GOOD to have you back on the list! Mike bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: TANCREDI G. et al. (2009) A meteorite crater on Earth formed on September 15, 2007: The Carancas hypervelocity impact (MAPS 44-12, 2009, pp. 1967-1984). Some of the key results the authors present: - initial mass 7-12 metric tons - initial diameter 1.6-2 meters - initial velocity 12-17 km/s - initial kinetic energy 0.12-0.41 kT TNT - trajectory roughly east-west - height above the horizon 45-60° - orbit of known near-Earth asteroids - impact time 16:40:14.4 UT - crater dimensions: 13.5 m (rim to rim) - depth to diameter ratio ca. 0.2 (typical of impact craters) - meteorites collected inside and outside the crater - classification H4-5 - peak pressures at impact over several GPa - impact velocity on the ground > ca. 3 km/s but < 6 km/s - hypervelocity impact event (impact speed larger than the speed of sound in the target material) - significant ablation but no catastrophic disruption during atmospheric passage - mass on impact 0.3-3 tons / diameter 0.6-1.1 m Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Request > Glorieta Mountain strewnfield map
Jeff, Well said! I believe Canadian laws are not too far off your ideas stated. If Canadian laws were less restrictive (right of first refusal for up to 50% instead of the 100% right now) and if they included your responsible collecting methods then we would be there. It is now easy to get export papers for Buzzard Coulee. Just a little effort and time is all that is needed. I must say that the people I worked with in the Canadian government were very friendly and helpful. They worked hard to help me. At the end of the day, public Canadian institutions received lots of Buzzard Coulee and much has been exported out of the country to the benefit of buyers and sellers. I believe good laws are needed to ensure Countries have a fair chance to obtain valuable specimens and that hunters/sellers are encouraged to look for more in a responsible way. Good luck with your proposals! Mike Tettenborn Jeff Grossman wrote: Once everybody gets all the anger out of their systems, the time comes for all interested parties to work within the existing framework of laws, regulations, and precedents and help develop a permitting process that allows meteorite hunting under certain conditions. If I were drafting this, it would at least include provisions requiring environmentally responsible collection methods, accurate documentation (photography, gps, mass), registration of find info within some time period, the right of first refusal for up to half of each object by the Smithsonian, and mandatory deposition of 20 g/20% in an institutional collection (including any material accepted by the SI). I think reasonable people recognize that these meteorites belong to the people of the US, but that specimens would mostly not be found without the efforts of private citizens. A good policy would continue to reward those who find these objects on behalf of the people, but also prevent the loss of scientific information and significant specimens. The question becomes, how can a reasonable regulation and permitting process be created? I'll discuss this with my colleagues in DOI and the SI, and perhaps groups like the IMCA can help lobby for this as well. I think it is quite achievable. Jeff On 2010-03-09 5:25 AM, Pelé Pierre-Marie wrote: Hello, I'm planning to go to Glorieta Mountain in two weeks or so. I would be very grateful if you could send me by mail a scan or drawing of the Glorieta Mountain strewnfield map. I thank you in advance for your help. Best regards, Pierre-Marie Pele www.meteor-center.com IMCA 3360 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Jilin for sale?
Looking for some Jilin to add to my collection. Anyone have some small (100 - 200 gm) individual or slices for sale? An Internet search was not fruitful. Thanks and Cheers! Mike Tettenborn __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [Bulk] It is a sad day.....
Ruben, It looks like this "Law" is not new. The BLM site presents this law as if it has been in effect for many years. Have you seen any indication that this is a new law? If this law has been around for many years then it may mean business as usual. Of course, now a lot of us can no longer, in good conscience, claim ignorance of that law. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Ruben Garcia wrote: Hi all, John Blennart just sent me this email. It seems that meteorite Hunting (from now on) will be illegal on all government lands - yes even BLM! No more Dry lake Beds, Franconia, Gold Basin, Holbrook, Glorieta, etc. (Unless of course you find private land and get permission) Check it out here. http://www.blm.gov/or/programs/minerals/noncollectables.php It is a sad day. Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CONGRATS TO CANADIAN LIST MEMBERS!
Woho!!!1 Canada is going nuts right now! Congratulations to the USA. This game could have easily gone the other way. tett Darryl Pitt wrote: What a game! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
What terrible news! Christian and I have sold meteorites to each other and it was always fun corresponding with him. I am so sorry that I have not been able to take up his offer of a beer in Austria during one of my visits there. I have family living close by in Tirol and one day I would have loved to meet him in person when visiting there. Mike Tettenborn --Original Message-- From: impact...@aol.com Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: h63str...@aol.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger Sent: Jan 13, 2010 3:56 PM Hello everybody, I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little girls. And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much happier times. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) Hello Anne, today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a friend. Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. We had also other private contact and were real friends. At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had so many private problems in his mind. Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back into the car sunday afternoon. This was the last time I saw him. True friendship never ends.. Hanno Strufe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Merry Christmas from Meteorite Labels
Merry Christmas all! Merry Christmas Roman! Mike Roman Jirasek wrote: Merry Christmas to all from Meteorite Labels. Cheers, Roman Jirasek www.meteoritelabels.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Looking for acrylic thin section boxes
Mike Jensen. These are perfect. http://www.jensenmeteorites.com/supplies.htm Cheers! tett starsandsco...@aol.com wrote: Hi List, I hate to trouble the list with this request but I have looked (with no luck) for those snap together single thin section boxes. I have seen micro mount display sets sold in them as well. A few years ago I bought some from a list member dealer and I can't remember who was selling them. If any one knows, please drop me an email. Tom Phillips __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Happy Birthday Buzzard Coulee
Buzzard Coulee just celebrated its first birthday on Nov. 20th. 1 year later and many fine stones found. Lets hope some good science including detailed strewn field maps are forth coming. Check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edtMdiO_gCc Cheers! Mike Tettenborn __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] buzz coulee availability
Steve, If you had some patients you too could have some Buzzard Coulee. It is just about a 6 month wait and in the grand scheme of things this is not that long. I have 7 stones which will clear in early January and all going to Europenas. There are also many more that will clear early next year from other Candians. All with papers that will make them more valuable to the person who gets them. There is more available and I will gladly help you acquire some but it will take time. Last I checked cost was about $15/gm but it may have gone up. Buzzard Coulee is a beautiful meteorite and most pieces show little to no weathering. I have a broken end piece with a large exposed face that sat in the open for about 6 months and you would not believe how fresh it looks. Beautiful brecciation and large chondrules. Patients Steve. You will find that your meteorite collecting will be much more enjoyable if you slow down and take your time. Enjoy the wonderful stones you have now and slowly grow your collection with pieces that are worth having and keeping. Cheers! tett steve arnold wrote: Good morning list.TGIF!!! Hey I was wondering if there are any USA collecters that have received more than 1 piece of buzz coulee,with those export papers,which I disdain,have any forsale?6 months to a year to wait for those things have made it just not worth collecting that fall.From the pieces I've seen it is a great stoney fall to have.But there is always LEGAL BS to have to wade thru.Please off list if you have any if not,hey I tried.Have a great day and weekend all. Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!! __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Fall Trip Report
Hi Mike and Rob and Roma and Patrick and all the rest of the group down in Grimsby, It is killing me that I can't make it down. Only a 3 hour drive! Have family from Europe here and would need to book the divorce lawyer if I snuck away. Hopefully soon. Good Luck! Mike (tett) Tettenborn Mike Bandli wrote: Hello all, I am having trouble posting to the list from Canada so I am writing through my hunting partner, Mike Bandli's email account. We arrived in Grimsby shortly after 11:00 am local time and spent a couple hours finding our bearings before meeting up with Roman Jirasek on a 20 acre parcel of land he had secured. After some time spent spot searching we decided to try a different location and unknowingly found ourselves only a few feet from Peter Brown's hunting party. Brown and his team are eager and have been logging many hours using a variety of methodologies to try to zero in on the fall line. More than happy to collaborate, Brown welcomed us in and helped us with as much info as the team had regarding the TWO stones found. After hunting in that area with no luck, we moved on again and went to the home of the car smasher and met with the homeowner. Despite all the coverage and hunting in the area, no one had thought to use a magnet to search for any more fragments of the stone that broke into several pieces upon impact. I asked if I could comb it over, to which they obliged, and found 6-7 small fragments. it was heartbreaking, though completely understandable, to have to hand them over after finding them. After a hot meal and a hotel check-in we met up with Mike Farmer and Jim Strope for a few beers, decompression, and planning. The locals have all been exceedingly accommodating. The terrain has been varied to say the least but many areas are huntable and many new areas seem to jump out on Google Earth so we are set for tomorrow. The two stones found are so close that they do not represent as line but more a pivot point for the line so that means 100 yard jumps to try and spot some more as gridding seems pointless. Given the hours spent and lack of TKW, it would seem at this point that export is highly unlikely. You can view a gallery of our hunt here, which we will try to update nightly: http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/grimsby.html Off to bed, hope to have more info tomorrow, Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/nakhladog -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 --- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com IMCA #5765 Member, Meteoritical Society --- __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] still llooking for riker boxes
Steve, Get in touch with Mike Jensen. http://www.jensenmeteorites.com/ Mike T. steve arnold wrote: Hi list.I have scoured the pages for riker boxes.Ebay has nothing!I need 15 4 x 5 riker boxes.If anyone can help me it would be appreciated. Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!! __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ontario Bolide
Roman, A buddy of mine stopped me today at the market and said he saw it driving north near Shelburne around 9pm. Lets hope! Cheers, Mike Roman Jirasek wrote: Last night just after 9pm there were many reports from my friends and family of a huge fire ball seen over Milton and Campbellville Ontario travelling in a southerly direction. My wife even saw it through the window, and where was I? - in the can taking a leak! Someone else heard it was seen from Toronto to Niagara Falls. If that's the case, pieces might have landed south of the border. Any one else on the list seen it? Cheers, Roman Jirasek www.meteoritelabels.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : Buzzard Coulee Special Oriented
List, As some of you know, I am selling just a couple of special pieces to help finance my motorcycle trip to the Arctic Circle. Unfortunately this means getting a new bike I need to sell just a couple of meteorites. My D'Orbigny went really fast and now I hope to entice someone to purchase a very special Buzzard Coulee stone. Please check Roman's or Rob's sites and you will see that this stuff goes fast. If you purchase this stone please be prepared to wait about 8 months or so. These stones are covered by Canadian export laws and must have an export permit before they can be shipped out of Canada. Unfortunately this takes time. Up for sale is my 48.8 grm individual with over 99% fusion crust. This stone is one of the rare ones collected within a week of the fall so it did not lie around in the snow for many months. AS well, it has a partial roll over lip and gorgeous detail. I was lucky to be able to sort through about 100 stones and this is the best that I found. Now that I have been able to visit the fall site and find my own stones I can now sell this one to a lucky individual. Price is USD 15/gm. Here is a pic: http://picasaweb.google.com/MikeTettenborn/Meteorites#5294311663363284338 Cheers and Thanks! tett __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: D'Orbigny Slice For Sale
List, Occasionally I sell off one or two pieces from my collection and have decided to part with my 4.9 gram slice of D'Orbigny. Mt other passion, motorcycles, has me dreamily staring at a new two wheeler and the only way I can grab this bike is to part with some other treasure. If interested you can see a pic at: http://picasaweb.google.com/MikeTettenborn/Meteorites#5377558136592402850 Will entertain low offers so don't be afraid to ask. Please reply off list. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [Bulk] Re: First Buzzard Coulee to hit the market?
Correct Bob. Only problem is he thinks it could take 8 weeks. NO WAY. It will take about 6 months and it is one hell of a lot of work. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Bob King wrote: Hi guys, I think if you read down in the description he does mention that he can sell now only in Canada and elsewhere when the permit is given. He even offers money back if the permit doesn't go through. Bob On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote: No, it's just another Canadian citizen who is unfamiliar with the law. He probably doesn't know he needs an export permit to sell outside Canada. On 8/15/09, Gary Fujihara wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/Buzzard-Coulee-Meteorite-18-8-gm-95-FC-VERY-RARE_W0QQitemZ270442978522QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ef7a85cda&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_902wt_909 Are export licenses finally being issued? Gary Fujihara AstroDay Institute 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, HI 96720 (808) 640-9161, fuj...@mac.com http://astroday.net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- . Michael Gilmer (Florida, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Personal Site - http://www.glassthrower.com FaceBook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale Twitter - Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone eBay - http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/maypickle .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Arizona fall better photos, check this out!
Michael, That stone is gorgeous! After two hard weeks of hunting it must be wonderful to find such a treasure. Kudos to you for not giving up. Congratulations! Mike Tettenborn Michael Farmer wrote: http://www.meteoriteguy.com/collection/azfall.htm www.meteoritehunter.com I put a page together quickly to show the stone I found yesterday. This is truly the best oriented meteorite I have ever found. I owe it all to Dr. Jack Schrader, who's detective work allowed this new meteorite fall to be recovered and who generously invited me to work with him in mapping this new strewnfield. thanks Jack! This stone exhibits on the low pressure side, the exact same silver spots observed on a few of the Ash Creek (West) stones. This is even after several hard rains since the fall, however since the stone was found backside down, that area was protected somewhat from the rain. Off to the field, now, but enjoy the newest meteorite recovered. Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Richard Norton
My love for meteorites is largely due to the writings of Richard Norton. I have his latest three meteorite books and consult them weekly if not daily. Richard's Centre Piece was always a pleasure. We have lost a great man. My thoughts and prayers to Dorothy. Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario impact...@aol.com wrote: Hello List-Members, Late last night I received a very sad email from Dorothy Norton. Richard Norton passed away last week, after a long illness. I had known fot quite some time that Richard was in poor health, still the news of his death came as a shock. Last time I called Dorothy, I heard piano playing in the background, Chopin and very good, I thought it was a CD playing or the radio, but Dorothy told me it was Richard, and we stopped a moment to listen, it was beautiful, I had no idea Richard was such a virtuoso. I had met Richard and Dorothy several years ago in Tucson, Thanks to Twink. I was very much a new comer then , and I found Richard to be bright, friendly, funny and so approchable. I still remember showing him a slice of Tafassasset, he looked at it with his loupe for quite a while, then told me that this meteorite left him speechless. Dorothy laughed, apparently Richard was rarely speechless. And now there is that great big hole in the middle of the Meteorite Community. Please read the obituary written by Dorothy and Joel Schiff: http://www.impactika.com/rnorton.doc I do know that Dorothy reads the List, so feel free to send her a message this way. Or, if you prefer, I'll be glad to relay your private message to her. Thank you. Anne M. Black http://www.impactika.com/ impact...@aol.com Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. http://www.imca.cc/ **Dinner Made Easy Newsletter - Simple Meal Ideas for Your Family. Sign Up Now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221991367x1201443283/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215225819%3B37274678%3Bs% 3Fhttp:%2F%2Frecipes.dinnermadeeasy.com%2F%3FESRC%3D622) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dean's BL NWA 1685
The light gray ones. Mike Greg Hupe wrote: Hi Gary, Thank you for the link. Are the clasts in question the light gray ones or the black one as seen in John Kashuba's example on Jeff's web site? I am guessing the light gray one's but want to confirm. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: "Gary Fujihara" To: "Greg Hupe" Cc: "tett" ; "Pete Pete" ; "meteoritelist meteoritelist" Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Dean's BL NWA 1685 Here's something on the BL, from Jeff Kuyken's website: http://www.meteorites.com.au/odds&ends/bl.html gary On May 22, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Greg Hupe wrote: Mike Mike, Pete, Bernd...All, Does anyone have a few close-up photos of these "achondritic" clasts Mike mentioned? Thanks! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: "tett" To: "Pete Pete" Cc: "meteoritelist meteoritelist" Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Dean's BL NWA 1685 Pete, Just a few weeks ago I was speaking with people from the Royal Ontario Museum and they have material and are hopefully able to do some research on it soon. There is still high interest in this stuff and I too want to see some more testing and classification done on it. It would be great to learn what these very cool achondritic clasts are which abound throughout NWA1685. Ian, are you lurking? ;>) Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Also a proud owner of some beautiful BL slices and individuals. Pete Pete wrote: Greetings, List, I see a recent update as of May 20, 2009 at the Meteoritical Society's bulletin for NWA 1685, but I don't see any new information included. http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?code=32385 http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?code=32385 Am I reading it right, that it has been submitted for classification since 2003?! If so, is this length of time normal? Would it be the examining institution's discretion for how long it takes to finally put data to paper for submission to the Meteoritical Society, or is the Met. Society a bit swamped and behind? I know that a lot of us have pieces of this gorgeous stone, and are anxious for the final word. Best, Pete _ Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live™ Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9656621 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara AstroDay Institute 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, HI 96720 (808) 640-9161, fuj...@mac.com http://astroday.net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dean's BL NWA 1685
Greg, I was going to send some pics but the posting from Gary Fujihara directing us to Jeff Kuyken's website does a better job. What is really interesting is that there are very thin black shock veins around these clasts indicating that these were introduced into the matrix after the stones formed. Mike P.S. you got PayPal. Greg Hupe wrote: Mike Mike, Pete, Bernd...All, Does anyone have a few close-up photos of these "achondritic" clasts Mike mentioned? Thanks! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message ----- From: "tett" To: "Pete Pete" Cc: "meteoritelist meteoritelist" Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Dean's BL NWA 1685 Pete, Just a few weeks ago I was speaking with people from the Royal Ontario Museum and they have material and are hopefully able to do some research on it soon. There is still high interest in this stuff and I too want to see some more testing and classification done on it. It would be great to learn what these very cool achondritic clasts are which abound throughout NWA1685. Ian, are you lurking? ;>) Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Also a proud owner of some beautiful BL slices and individuals. Pete Pete wrote: Greetings, List, I see a recent update as of May 20, 2009 at the Meteoritical Society's bulletin for NWA 1685, but I don't see any new information included. http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?code=32385 http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?code=32385 Am I reading it right, that it has been submitted for classification since 2003?! If so, is this length of time normal? Would it be the examining institution's discretion for how long it takes to finally put data to paper for submission to the Meteoritical Society, or is the Met. Society a bit swamped and behind? I know that a lot of us have pieces of this gorgeous stone, and are anxious for the final word. Best, Pete _ Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live™ Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9656621 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dean's BL NWA 1685
Pete, Just a few weeks ago I was speaking with people from the Royal Ontario Museum and they have material and are hopefully able to do some research on it soon. There is still high interest in this stuff and I too want to see some more testing and classification done on it. It would be great to learn what these very cool achondritic clasts are which abound throughout NWA1685. Ian, are you lurking? ;>) Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Also a proud owner of some beautiful BL slices and individuals. Pete Pete wrote: Greetings, List, I see a recent update as of May 20, 2009 at the Meteoritical Society's bulletin for NWA 1685, but I don't see any new information included. http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?code=32385 http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?code=32385 Am I reading it right, that it has been submitted for classification since 2003?! If so, is this length of time normal? Would it be the examining institution's discretion for how long it takes to finally put data to paper for submission to the Meteoritical Society, or is the Met. Society a bit swamped and behind? I know that a lot of us have pieces of this gorgeous stone, and are anxious for the final word. Best, Pete _ Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live™ Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9656621 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Buzzard Coulee Coordinates and pieces for sale
Bernd, I made a mistake with the W coordinate. All the W50's should read W53. The GPS had small low res numbers but I was able to confirm correct numbers from pictures I took. Thanks for pointing this out. Cheers! Mike bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: Hello Mike T. and List, The Met.Bull. gives these coordinates: 52° 59.76 ' N, 109° 50.89' W The 11.5-gram specimen you are offering for sale nicely fits the above coordinates but the 6.8-gram and 23.5-gram individuals have a northern latitude of about 50° N. Does this imply the strewn field is a very elongated N-S fall ellipse and, furthermore, does this hint toward a relatively shallow entry angle of the meteoroid? What do you and other list members think? Any pertinent input appreciated! Thank you, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad: Buzzard sale piece
List, Sorry. Forgot to share the pictures. I can email more pictures to anyone interested See: http://picasaweb.google.com/MikeTettenborn/BuzzardCouleeSalePieces#. Cheers, Mike tett wrote: List, I have a few Buzzard Coulee pieces for sale. I have already sold some and donated a few to the ROM and now have three gorgeous individuals for sale. All three pieces are ~100% fusion crusted and as fresh as they come from this spring hunt. They look as fresh as my piece that was picked up very shortly after the fall. The deal: -If these cross the Canadian border I will apply for an export permit. The buyer will need to pay up front and wait until the export permit is granted. This could take upwards of 6+ months. Should the permit not be granted then all the cash will be returned. -Shipping is free world wide. Standard airmail. -Buyer will also receive a digital copy of the picture taken in situ showing the stone before being touched by human hands. -These three stones have find coordinates. If you are interested in any of these stones please email me off list for cost. Cheers and thanks for looking, Mike (tett) Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: Buzzard sale piece
List, I have a few Buzzard Coulee pieces for sale. I have already sold some and donated a few to the ROM and now have three gorgeous individuals for sale. All three pieces are ~100% fusion crusted and as fresh as they come from this spring hunt. They look as fresh as my piece that was picked up very shortly after the fall. The deal: -If these cross the Canadian border I will apply for an export permit. The buyer will need to pay up front and wait until the export permit is granted. This could take upwards of 6+ months. Should the permit not be granted then all the cash will be returned. -Shipping is free world wide. Standard airmail. -Buyer will also receive a digital copy of the picture taken in situ showing the stone before being touched by human hands. -These three stones have find coordinates. If you are interested in any of these stones please email me off list for cost. Cheers and thanks for looking, Mike (tett) Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Buzzard Hunt Images
All, Here are some images of my Buzzard trip this past weekend. http://picasaweb.google.com/MikeTettenborn/BuzzardCoulee# Cheers, Mike (tett) Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Buzzard
Hello List, I have just returned from Buzzard Coulee after 4 exhausting days of travel and meteorite hunting. It was wonderful to experience the Prairies and to hunt with other meteorite enthusiasts. Hunted with friends from the Royal Ontario Museum, Patrick Herrmann, Rob Wessel and Mike Bandli. All of us were successful. Mike and Rob took me under there wings the first day out and shortly after starting with them I found a 90 gram individual with over 90% crust. I was on cloud 9! This stone turned out to be the largest our small group was going to find. After giving half of my haul back to the land owner, as payment for rights to hunt, I came home with just under 1/4 kilo (12 individuals). Will post some pictures soon. The plows are now working and it looks like the farmer's fields will be tilled any day now. However, there is much woodland to be searched and I am sure many fine specimens are waiting to be found. The woodlands will be extremely tough to search and it will take much more work to find anything compared to our field hunting. They may even prove impossible to search. Having walked over 50 km in 2 full days and 2 half days I now have a greater appreciation for how difficult it is to hunt for these treasures. Buzzard Coulee was easy compared to many and it still took about 3 km of walking (on average) before finding a stone. I don't think I would have been able to stand West where many hunters were lucky to find one stone in a day. Cheers! Mike (tett) Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New West totals
Teddy, Thanks! I too could not get away and hunt and I appreciate the work you are putting into this. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario teddy applebaum wrote: A lot more of West has been recovered since I last posted find totals over a week ago, and this list isn’t even complete. A number of hunters are planning more trips, or may even still be out there. Some, like Mike Farmer say they will post their revised totals when they are done collecting, so we can expect these numbers to change. That said, these numbers should give a better idea of how much West has been collected; and it’s quite a lot more then originally projected. I have reordered the numbers from highest weight totals to lowest. Enjoy. 1. Steve Arnold: 69 stones, total: 2362g 2. Micheal Farmer: 26 stones, total: 2066.92g 3. Unknown owner: 1 stone, total: 1700g 4. Robert Woolard: and son 7 stones, total: 407 grams 5. Mike Miller: 8 stones totaling: 365g (212g) 6. MexicoDoug, Dima and Rob's group: 16 stones, total: 360g 7. Micheal Cottingham: 18 stones, total: 286g 8. Greg Hupe: 12 stone total: 268g (50g) 9. Rob Wesel: 9 stones, total: 255 g 10. Dave Gheesling 2 stones, total: 255g (104.9g, 150.1g) 11. Ruben Garcia: 15 stones’ total: 197g (12.6g) 12. Geoff Notkin: 13 stones total: 116.8 (18.8g,) 13. Bob Haag: 4 stones, total:89g 14. 14. Del Waterbury: 5 stones totaling: 75.3g (8g, 5,6g, 5.2g, 5.5g, 51g,) 15. Mike Bandli: 6 stones, total: 53.715g 16. John Sinclair: 4 stones, total: 43.91g (5.77g, 9.84g, 13.55g, 14.75g 17. Greg Stanley: 1 stone, total: 42g 18. James Phillips: 4 stones, total: 36.3 19. Art Ehlmann: 1 stone (not his?) total: 35g 20. Friend of Woolard: 1 stone, total: 31.7g 21. Matt Morgan: 2 stones, total: 22.5 (11.5g, 11g) 22. Ron DiIulio and Co.:2 stones, total: 20.3g (13.6, 6.7) 23. Mike Morgan: 1 stone total: 13g 24. Eric Wichman: 1 stone, total: 6.7 grams 25. Jim Baxter: 1 stone from Mike Farmer, total: 5.9g 26. Lesa Lambert and Steve Dunklee 1 stone, total: 0.45g 27. Patrick Thompson: 15 stones total: unknown 28. Keith and Dana Jenkerson: 4 stones, total: unknown Totals: 230 stones with known weights = 9114.495g + at least 19 other known stones lacking weights + unknown numbers from these hunters: Jim Schade Sonny Clary Shauna Russel Robert Ward Gary Curtiss Derek Bower Totals: 230 stones with known weights = 9114.495g, averaging out to 39.6g per stone. However, that average is inflated by 2 stones weighing 1.7 and 1.5kilos. The average excluding those stones is 25.9g per stone. On a personal note, a few people have publicly wondered why I am helping collect this data. I am a 22-years-old student/journalist currently living in RI with a passion for meteorites and a growing fixation on the idea of hunting for them. If I could have afforded to be go to Texas I would have dropped everything to hunt the West fall. However, I am currently poor and therefore decided I would do what I could to help from home instead. I noticed that a number of list members were asking for aggregated data on the West fall and thought I could step up and help fill that void. There is no ulterior motive for this, just an interest in helping where I can. Clearly I have no expertise to offer, just a knack for research and little spare time. Hope that clears things up. I will post again when more data comes in. Cheers – Teddy A __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] More information and pictures of the Maribo fall!
My bet is a CM carbonaceous meteorite. Based solely on the few pictures in the article so just a guess. Looks like a rare one! Cheers, Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario Canada Thomas Österberg wrote: Dear List, I just found this link to Geologisk Museum in Copenhagen, with more pictures of the meteorite fragements recovered, including some pics of the interior! Any idea its classification? Based on the text content (including articles in Politiken) it seems to be a very, very fragile meteorite. Maybe new Tagish Lake? Any comments? Thomas http://geologi.snm.ku.dk/nyheder_gm/nyhed13032009/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WG: Witnessed Falls and Hammers - warning, LONG.
Here is my 20 gram slice of Kunashak. http://picasaweb.google.com/MikeTettenborn/Meteorites#5311303855235807298 Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Martin Altmann wrote: Yes, certainly, in cut faces it looks like summer clouds on a ceiling of a Bavarian baroque church. But one needs fullslices to see the great net of shock veins best. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Darryl Pitt [mailto:dar...@dof3.com] Gesendet: Montag, 9. März 2009 18:05 An: Martin Altmann Cc: Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] WG: Witnessed Falls and Hammers - warning, LONG. ...and kunashak is among the most beautiful of OCs. On Mar 9, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Martin Altmann wrote: Hmm, honestly I never was aware the last decades that this category "hammer" had any meaning or importance. Of course Peekskill car, was a curiosity like Claxton. But people were buying Barwell, cause it was Barwell and Mbale, cause it was Mbale and it was only a funny side note, that a pea hit the head of a boy and Kunashak...but Kunashak virtually nobody was buying :-) Also in the classical meteorite books you won't find any category: hammers. So I'm astonished about that hype and that collectors suddenly since 2-3 years are paying triple to tenfold prices for the same falls than all the decades before. Walter, Walter, what have you done :-) Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von m...@mhmeteorites.com Gesendet: Montag, 9. März 2009 17:19 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed Falls and Hammers - warning, LONG. I think to be considered a hammer the meteorite needs to hit a human- made structure, like a building or car. Seems to me that many have taken the term and bastardized it to the point where it has lost its true meaning and interest (at least to me). Matt Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] West-- article and video
Thanks Dan! The video is definitely worth watching. Mike Tettenborn Darren Garrison wrote: http://www.news8austin.com/content/headlines/?ArID=232800&SecID=2 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] List Members, what's your job ?
47 years old and I am a product development engineer. Happily married for 23 years and have two wonderful boys. Just learned that my eldest boy has been accepted into biological and medical sciences at University of Western Ontario so he too will be into the sciences like many of the list members. However, he has not been bitten by the meteorite bug yet. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario valpar...@aol.com wrote: Wow, new meteorite fall making worldwide news, this meteorite list ignores it. At least nothing changes Michael farmer Let's see, what do we know from the list about the new fall? 1) It's a meteorite, not satellite debris. 2) Ron DiIulio and Preston Star found the first two pieces. 3) Moritz Karl and company found a piece that Mike Farmer got to hold in the photograph. 4) Greg Hupe is going to Texas on Friday. 5) Reuben Garcia is headed for Texas now and has invited everyone to go along. 6) Eric Wichman is having a big sale to raise money to go to Texas. 7) The initial news reports were typically poor. That doesn't strike me as being "ignored". Perhaps we should all just babble away, speculating about what might happen or be found out there in the Lone Star State. Perhaps more accolades are in order. Hooray Mike! Hooray Moritz! Hooray Robert! Hooray Shauna! Out of respect, I suggest we all stop posting to the list, except for our excited Texas babbling, until we get the all-clear. Paul Swartz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Illegal Buzzard Coulee on eBay?
Darren, It looks legit to me. Being that the guy is from Lloydminster, which is just around the corner from the strewn field, he could have very easily acquired it. And is is not illegal unless he tries to sell it out side of Canada without an export permit. That said, he does state that he will ship to the US and the UK and I doubt that he has an export permit in hand. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Darren Garrison wrote: On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:03:52 -0800 (PST), you wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170302418033 Is it bogus? Is it Buzzard Coulee? As best as I can tweak the horrible photo, it does look like a meteorite-- there are bright spots that look like blebs of metal, plus a couple of larger yellow spots that could be large melted chondrules exposed through the fusion crust. I'm also seeing in the upper-right something that COULD be flow lines, but then again coud be nothing at all. Might be a bit weathered, but again, it is a terrible photo. But it is a zero-feedback seller and they say it is "estimated to be 4 trillion years old", so I wouldn't trust trying to buy from them even if they dropped 2 zeroes off that figure. Anyone want to wager how long it will be before eBay pulls this auction? Slightly after Sheol has a snowstorm. Ebay doesn't give one of these: http://www.space1026.com/site_images/620portfolios_rats_ass.jpg __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Two new fall announcements
Thanks Jeff! Buzzard Coulee is the official name. Sorry Roman ;>( Mike Jeff Grossman wrote: People may be interested in two announcements of recent falls in the Meteoritical Bulletin and associated LPSC abstracts: Buzzard Coulee (which everybody knows about): http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/index.php?code=48654 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2009/pdf/1893.pdf http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2009/pdf/2072.pdf Bunburra Rockhole (I hadn't heard about this one before): http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/index.php?code=48653 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2009/pdf/1664.pdf http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2009/pdf/1498.pdf Jeff Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184 US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Buzzard Coulee Classification
List, Here is a "first look paper" on Buzzard Coulee. About what was expected. H4 or possibly H4/3. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2009/pdf/1893.pdf Cheers, Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] tucson day 3
Steve, Always fun to read your reports but this was the best. "I traded my sun glasses and $300 for the fragment." I love little anecdotes like that. Brings the fun of Tuscon to us that could not make it. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario steve arnold wrote: Hello list and good afternoon. etc. etc. http://chicagometeorites.net/";>http://chicagometeorites.net/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Beautiful Tafassasset slice
List, I have a beautiful part slice of Tafassasset for sale. 4.2 grams with huge surface area. Professionally cut very thin and measuring a whopping ~36mm x ~52mm. I have purchased a larger piece and now have this beauty available. Tafassasset is an exciting meteorite with dual classification of CR Chondrite or Primitive Achondrite. Just do a search in the Met. Bulletin http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/index.php . Also, there have been some hints that exciting new information is coming out on this meteorite. Perhaps the classification will become even more unique. Price is $120 and 5$ for shipping in Canada or the US or $10 for over seas. Paypal preferred. Here is a pic.: http://picasaweb.google.com/MikeTettenborn/Meteorites#5293906669090205378 Cheers, Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New meteorite fall Morocco
Aid, These look like nice meteorites and I don't doubt that these are genuine. I do find it hard to believe that the small craters were formed from these stones. The craters look dug and appear too large and deep for the little rocks your are displaying. Am I missing something? Best Regards, Mike Tettenborn Aid Mohamed wrote: Hello list, I have been to the place the new meteorite fell and I was lucky to find some pieces myself, you can find pieces from TOURJDALE to OUED AACHIR, the big piece I can say 20 kg, it was fragments and the nomads were there first and pick it up, each one has a piece, and I estimated a 20kg largest piece. you can find small holes in the trajectory of the fall, in the big one we find the sand burned and mixed with the very small fragments. You can beleive me, because I was there and these are the photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/34600...@n07/ I don't lie or pretend milligrams or hundereds of kilos, more than 50 per cent of this meteorites are small fragments without crust or have some. I learned on this list more than 500kg were found, and tents kilos were offered for sale, and I'm asking for photos of even 500g. Thank you Aid __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] question for thin section collectors
Leigh Anne, Mike Jensen (www.jensenmeteorites.com) sells the perfect little plastic container for thin section slides. See my pic here: http://picasaweb.google.com/MikeTettenborn/Meteorites#5287586654701879842 I do see that Mike's site is down and not sure why. I just received supplies from him a few weeks ago and visited his site over the holidays. Probably just down for a little bit. Cheers, Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario Leigh Anne DelRay wrote: I was wondering if anyone could tell me the typical way that thin sections are collected. I know that they are on microscope slides, but do people typically keep those slides in an old microscope slide box, or drawer of some sort? Is there a protective type case that is typical of thin section collectors? My boyfriend is a custom woodworker, and it trying to figure out a way to build a storage case for these. Thanks in advance, Leigh Anne DelRay __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The hunt for green crystals in Udei Station
List, While searching various web sites I stumbled across some nice images of green crystals (Olivine?) found in various cut faces of Udei Station. These crystals are a deep emerald green and very striking. So, I thought I would look and my slice and after a few minutes of searching found a solitary single crystal. Anyone else out there with a scope and some Udei Station may want to hunt for these little gems. Here is a pic: http://picasaweb.google.com/MikeTettenborn/Meteorites#5285588073310892626 Cheers Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Raw Buzzard Coulee photo
Thought I would share this 20 power view from a ground face of Buzzard Coulee. Notice some oxidation forming around metal grains. Merry Christmas to all and may your stockings be stuffed with at least one little meteorite. Here is the pic: http://picasaweb.google.com/MikeTettenborn/Meteorites#5283488187988944482 Cheers! Mike Tettenborn __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite article in German Playboy
Wow H! An excuse to get a Playboy Mag. Bernd, can you get me a copy? Maybe you should buy a dozen for other meteorite friends. Mike Michael Farmer wrote: Hi everyone, I have been on the road heading north for days now, so little email contact. I just wanted to let my friends in Germany know that there is a meteorite article about Bob Haag and I in German Playboy Magazine, December issue. I have yet to see it, but it deals with meteorites in general, and focuses on Carancas. Time is running out to get a copy, so grab one before they are gone. I should have a few copies in Tucson, and I am sure there are other attributes in the magazine if you don't like the story about Bob and I:) Happy Holidays from snowy and very cold Montana. Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] More Buzzard Coulee in the news
The 10K is a guestimate based on a small sampling in one area. It could be more or could be considerably less. As well, the stuff to be collected in the spring may be rusty as heck. Even some of the fresh stuff picked up a few days after the fall show signs of weathering. The fresh stuff may still fetch high prices. Time will tell. Mike Tettenborn Bob Evans wrote: Oh well, So much for $50 per gram. Thats about 9000 more pieces than the market will consume. Happy Holidays to all my friends ! - Original Message - From: "Darren Garrison" To: "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 12:52 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] More Buzzard Coulee in the news Estimates of 10,000 pieces larger than 10 grams reaching the ground. http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/200852/2667/Canadian-scientists-begin-examination-of-hundreds-of-meteorites http://www.metronews.ca/calgary/local/article/158806 http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081222/meteorites_earth_081222/20081222?hub=CTVNewsAt11 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Yet another article on Buzzard Coulee
http://www.thespec.com/Wire/News_Wire/Science/article/485822 December 22, 2008 Shannon Montgomery, THE CANADIAN PRESS The Canadian Press, 2008 CALGARY - More than 100 well-preserved meteorites collected after a heavenly fireball flashed across the prairie sky last month could provide a glimpse into the very beginnings of our solar system - or even earlier. University of Calgary geologist Alan Hildebrand has been studying pieces that were rapidly collected from the fall site near the Alberta-Saskatchewan boundary before the season's first snow. "Most things about these rocks date from 4 1/2 billion years ago, so it will show us more about the origin of the solar system, I would think," he said. Hildebrand estimated about 10,000 pieces weighing 10 grams or more fell to the ground when a meteor streaked across Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta on Nov. 20. He said there's no doubt that when recovery efforts resume in the spring, they'll manage to find at least 1,000 of the dark, dimpled rocks, which would set a Canadian record for the largest number of pieces found from a single fall. A sample size that large would allow scientists to figure out a wide range of things about the original meteorite, which likely weighed 10 tonnes and was about the size of a desk when it slammed into earth's atmosphere at a speed of about 14 kilometres per second. They'll be able to extract clues about the meteorite itself, as well as the parent asteroid that it originally left behind. They will also be able to study the fireball some witnesses said was as bright as the sun. "This one obviously made these spectacular, bright bursts that eyewitnesses were describing, the blue-white flashes," Hildebrand said. "Each one of those flashes was a fragmentation episode, and with hundreds of fragments we can better understand that process in the atmosphere." The space rocks have been classified as a type called H4. That means they're high in iron and experienced a lower level of heat than some other types of meteorites. This is important because the more heat a meteorite experiences, the more its components blend together, making it more difficult to figure out what elements were involved when it was created. It's possible that the rocks even contain fragments from before our solar system existed. To check for this, scientists need to churn through a lot of samples looking for what is essentially a pre-solar needle in a haystack. "To find them, you have to destroy a lot of meteorites," Hildebrand said. "Because we have lots of meteorites here, and probably have hundreds of kilograms of it, there will be material available for people who want to do these experiments." Hildebrand said some of the experiments will focus on whether the meteorite comes from a known strike between two bodies in an asteroid belt about eight million years ago. About half of similar meteorites that fall to earth have been found to come from that strike, he said. "In a geologic sense, that's still the blink of an eye. These rocks are 4.5 billion years old, leftover from the start of the solar system, so what's eight million years compared to 4.5 billion?" Since they collected the meteorites so quickly after they hit the ground, many of the elements will still be intact. Hildebrand pointed out that some well-preserved meteorites have been found to contain salt, something that suggests the one-time presence of water. Still, it's only been a month since the first meteorite chunk was plucked from a pond near Buzzard Coulee, Sask., Hildebrand said, and it's still hard to hazard a guess about what secrets lie beneath the rocks' exteriors. "It may be something we haven't thought of at all, yet." __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Buzzard Coulee . H4 and maybe transitional to H3
Another new article. http://www.physorg.com/news149168723.html A University of Calgary-organized team recovered more than one hundred meteorites from the November 20 meteorite fall southwest of Lloydminster, Saskatchewan/Alberta, which is expected to set a new Canadian record for the largest recorded meteorite fall. "Finding all we could before the snow came on December 6 was a real challenge and tough on searchers with wind chills routinely colder than ? degrees," said Dr. Alan Hildebrand, holder of the Canada Research Chair in Planetary Science. "We did as well as we did by collaborating with experienced researchers from The University of Western Ontario including Dr. Phil McCausland and Dr. Peter Brown." Both Hildebrand and Brown are veterans of the Tagish Lake (2000) and St-Robert (1994) meteorite recovery efforts and McCausland is a veteran of the Tagish Lake recovery. Volunteer searchers numbered up to twenty people per day including local residents, U of C staff and graduate & undergraduate students, professors from the University of Saskatchewan and the University of Regina, amateur astronomers from the Saskatoon, Calgary and Edmonton Centres of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada, and geoscientists from ConocoPhillips Canada. Most searchers found at least one meteorite despite having a thin layer of snow down the last five days. "The last day that the search teams were out, it snowed all day and we still found five meteorites which is ridiculous. It shows just how many are out there," Hildebrand said. Using the abundance of meteorites on the pond where U of C grad student Ellen Milley found the first fragments on November 27, Hildebrand calculated that about 2,000 meteorites of more than 10 grams in size occur per square kilometer in the northern part of the strewn field, and probably more than 10,000 meteorites of this size are on the ground altogether. Many local residents and landowners also found meteorites, as well as persons from across the prairies and meteorite dealers who traveled to Saskatchewan to try their luck. "We have had great cooperation from landowners, who are having a once-in-a-lifetime experience of a meteorite harvest," Hildebrand said. "Approximately 130 well-substantiated meteorites have been found totaling about 40 kg, but probably double that number, weighing more than 50 kg, have been recovered." Hildebrand encourages everyone who has collected specimens to please send him the masses (in grams) and locations (GPS coordinates, NAD27 datum) of their finds to help map the strewn field. Milley and Hildebrand have formally proposed the name Buzzard Coulee to describe the fall to the International Meteoritical Society. The name comes from the picturesque valley near the hamlet of Lone Rock, Sask. where the first meteorites were discovered. Typing of the meteorite has been completed with the collaboration of Dr. Alex Ruzicka and Dr. Melinda Hutson, a husband and wife team at the Cascadia Meteorite Laboratory at Portland State University, Portland, Oregon. "The meteorite is at the low end of the H4 type and may be transitional with type 3. It will take some more work to sort out everything, but we have good prospects to learn a lot about the rock's history," Ruzicka said. A lower number in the classification indicates that a meteorite experienced less heating on its parent asteroid, making it of more interest to researchers and potentially to collectors as well. Lower metamorphic grades are relatively unusual in meteorites of the H, or "high iron" type, such as the Buzzard Coulee rocks. Dr. Hutson observed: "The meteorite also appears to show that different types of material are mixed together in a subtle way, but we will have to study more thin sections to better understand this. The meteorite is slightly shocked, so the material was possibly stirred by an impact on its parent asteroid." Hand specimens of the meteorite show only rare fragmental texture, but with the prospect of hundreds of meteorites to study, including some large ones (the largest recovered to date is approximately 13 kg), more will be learned about the history of the asteroid fragment that fell at Buzzard Coulee than for most falls. "It was a great experience to visit the Cascadia Meteorite Lab to see how they do things, and it has been fun to apply the things that we learned in class to a new meteorite fall," said Milley, who is pursuing her MSc with Hildebrand in the U of C's Department of Geoscience. "It feels good to be making a real research contribution. When we determine the orbit we will also know from where in the asteroid belt this rock originated." The recovered meteorites are being stored in an inert nitrogen atmosphere in a clean room in the meteorite lab at the University of Calgary to prevent weathering by the Earth's atmosphere. "Since these meteorites are a fresh fall collected early and nearly d
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - "Buzzard Coulee"
Mike, Can't find the images. Mike Tettenborn Mike Jensen wrote: Hi Tett Randy and list Here are some thin section photos...near the bottom of the page... if you want to guess at a classification. Also includes a photo of several beautiful stones as well as a nice oriented stone as well. Just wish I could legally hold one in my hands today. Mike -- Mike Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 USA 720-949-6220 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:02 PM, tett wrote: Thanks for sharing this Randy. It looks genuine (and incredibly beautiful!) but a little odd that Alan Hildebrand advised that this is an H3/4. This seams a little fast for classification but perhaps that is what it is. I guess an H3/4 is better than an H 5 or H6. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Randy Korotev wrote: Collectors: A couple of days ago I was contacted by telephone by Mr. Warren Wiley of Saskatchewan. (Why me?) He told me that he'd found "the second largest" stone of the Dec. 2 fireball and that he wanted to sell it. He seems to be a nice fellow, so I offered to pass his information along to the meteorite list, which was OK with him. He does not have Internet access. A friend of his sent a message this morning with the following text and some attached photos, which I've posted on this website: http://artsci.wustl.edu/~rlkorote/warren/ Mr Wiley's text: "This specimen is from the Buzzard Coulee near Lone Rock, Saskatchewan. This is an immaculate masterpiece of atmospheric sculpting. Heavily regmaglyphed, aesthetic specimen. Found December 2, 2008, 35 minutes after sundown. I have video documentation of my 4 day search; where I found it, and associate professor, Alan Hildebrand, coming to our house to authenticate. Alan Hildebrand and other scientists have completed the lab analysis on my chondrite, and it is an (H 3/4) chondrite. Warren Wiley (owner) is putting it up for bids, serious inquiries only. Contact Warren at 1-780-842-4858." Please do not contact me about this offer. I'm just the messenger and I won't respond to enquiries about this issue. I'm only doing this because I wanted to see the photos. Randy Korotev Saint Louis, MO koro...@wustl.edu __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - "Buzzard Coulee"
Thanks for sharing this Randy. It looks genuine (and incredibly beautiful!) but a little odd that Alan Hildebrand advised that this is an H3/4. This seams a little fast for classification but perhaps that is what it is. I guess an H3/4 is better than an H 5 or H6. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Randy Korotev wrote: Collectors: A couple of days ago I was contacted by telephone by Mr. Warren Wiley of Saskatchewan. (Why me?) He told me that he'd found "the second largest" stone of the Dec. 2 fireball and that he wanted to sell it. He seems to be a nice fellow, so I offered to pass his information along to the meteorite list, which was OK with him. He does not have Internet access. A friend of his sent a message this morning with the following text and some attached photos, which I've posted on this website: http://artsci.wustl.edu/~rlkorote/warren/ Mr Wiley's text: "This specimen is from the Buzzard Coulee near Lone Rock, Saskatchewan. This is an immaculate masterpiece of atmospheric sculpting. Heavily regmaglyphed, aesthetic specimen. Found December 2, 2008, 35 minutes after sundown. I have video documentation of my 4 day search; where I found it, and associate professor, Alan Hildebrand, coming to our house to authenticate. Alan Hildebrand and other scientists have completed the lab analysis on my chondrite, and it is an (H 3/4) chondrite. Warren Wiley (owner) is putting it up for bids, serious inquiries only. Contact Warren at 1-780-842-4858." Please do not contact me about this offer. I'm just the messenger and I won't respond to enquiries about this issue. I'm only doing this because I wanted to see the photos. Randy Korotev Saint Louis, MO koro...@wustl.edu __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Toronto, Canada Meteorite Display
Pete, A few of us saw this first hand on Thursday. The ROM has created a wonderful new Mineral exhibit which was opened to the public on Saturday and a few of us got the invite to see it before the public opening. We were lucky to meet up with Greg Hupe who brought along 8 planetary meteorites and so we were able to see NWA5000 along with Greg's other gorgeous planetaries. The ROM has created a new permanent mineral exhibit which is outstanding. Part of the display is a large cabinet beautifully organized with typical meteorites from the various classes. Nicely done in a way to excite new comers to the world of meteorites. In front of the display is are interactive monitors where visitors can see a picture of the display. Touching the specific meteorite images brings up a screen with close up shoots and detailed information. Very slick. In a separate cabinet is the temporary display of NWA5000. Very very cool! Definitely worth the trip to the ROM. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Pete Pete wrote: Greetings, all, For my fellow Canadians and northwestern New Yorkers, the Royal Ontario Museum in Toronto is featuring a great sounding meteorite display for the next few months, including Greg Hupe's NWA 5000. (Will that be the encased giant "slab", Greg?) http://www.rom.on.ca/news/releases/public.php?mediakey=lf3mjmmzij http://www.rom.on.ca/news/releases/public.php?mediakey=lf3mjmmzij Best of the holidays, Pete _ Keep in touch and up to date with friends and family. Make the connection now. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Buzzard Coulee
List, Saw a nice batch of stones from the new Canadian fall. Buzzard Coulee or Lone Rock Or Marsden ??? Here is nice ~50 gram stone which followed me home. In the album are some more pics from the fall. Cheers, Mike Tettenborn http://picasaweb.google.com/MikeTettenborn/Meteorites#5281671186567766930 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Best Easel for small Riker boxes?
Michael, Check out August 2008 Meteorite Mag.. "Hall of Meteorites". Anita Westlake has a nice (and easy) wall mount solution for her Riker boxes. If you need a portable solution then probably your best bet is some type of custom wood frame to hold a bunch. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Michael Gilmer wrote: Hi folks! Is there a preferred easel to prop up and display small 3x4" Riker boxes? I am building up a large number of them and I want some way to display them on a shelf. I have tried those little clear plastic easels used for coins and poker chips, but they are not really "deep" enough and the Riker box tends to slide off with the slightest disturbance. (with cats running around the house, this isn't going to work) What about those little wire-frame easels sold by MigaCorp? Do those work well with Rikers? A while back, I recall another list member asked the list about a solution for storing/displaying large numbers of Riker boxes. I don't recall him getting an answer. Does anyone know of a stepped display system that will hold a couple of dozen small Rikers? Thanks in advance! MikeG . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Name the new Canadian fall Buzzard Coulee
List, As Jeff pointed out the final decision on the new name is up to the Nomenclature Committee. That said, I have been advised that Buzzard Coulee is the desired new name and so I propose that we use that until the NomCom makes its final choice. "That's what Alan H. and the U of C crew are calling it. His grad student Ellen Milley who found the first piece and Ian Mitchell, whose land (cow pond) it was found on both prefer Buzzard Coulee because that's where it was found. Ian also notes that it is the oldest geographic name in the area." Cheers, Mike Tettenborn __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Name the new Canadian fall
Thanks Jeff for the insightful response. I suppose it will be 6+ months until we know and at least I have sown the seed for cool. I still remember the sad time when Bilanga-Yanga was shortened to Bilanga. Cheers!, Mike Tettenborn Jeff Grossman wrote: The final selection of a name rests with the Nomenclature Committee. They have guidelines about what characterizes a proper meteorite name (and contrary to popular belief, these do not say anything about post offices). However, there are no rules at all regarding who may propose a name for a new meteorite. Normally, the group that submits the initial characterization of the meteorite to the NomCom makes a suggestion about what the name should be. Surprisingly, there have been only a few cases where multiple suggestions have been made by different groups. A recent example was Carancas (vs. Desaguadero). I don't know how the committee would react to suggestions coming out of the community at large. I think they would probably give deference to the finder and/or initial-characterization team, unless a counter-suggestion was backed by a better reason than "too John Waynish" or "no distinct Canadian sound." But if I was doing the initial description of this meteorite, I would be thinking as you are. If I could pick from multiple names of nearby geographic features and some are boring and some are cool, I'd go for cool; if Buzzard Coulee was one of my choices, it would be a no-brainer (except that maybe folks from Saskatchewan would not want a name with the initials B.C.). Jeff tett wrote: Jeff and List, Wondering who has final authority in naming new meteorites? I know there are some general guidelines (nearest post office or town or landmark) but who has final say? Will the peopel from U of Calgary be allowed input? Can the met list opinion influence the final name? I am asking these questions in hopes of influencing the final name of the new Canadian fall. It has been rerefed to as Lone Rock (too John Waynish for a Canadian stone), Marsden (Not bad but no distinct Canadian sound), Lloydminster (Getting better) and Buzzard Coulee (Now we are talking!) Looking at the map there are some other cool names close by such as Unwin, Zumbro and Manitou Lake. Manitou being the Ojibwey name for the Great Spirit or spirits. Well, if it counts, my vote would be for Buzzard Coulee. Cheers, Mike Tettenborn, Owen Sound, Ontario __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Name the new Canadian fall
Jeff and List, Wondering who has final authority in naming new meteorites? I know there are some general guidelines (nearest post office or town or landmark) but who has final say? Will the peopel from U of Calgary be allowed input? Can the met list opinion influence the final name? I am asking these questions in hopes of influencing the final name of the new Canadian fall. It has been rerefed to as Lone Rock (too John Waynish for a Canadian stone), Marsden (Not bad but no distinct Canadian sound), Lloydminster (Getting better) and Buzzard Coulee (Now we are talking!) Looking at the map there are some other cool names close by such as Unwin, Zumbro and Manitou Lake. Manitou being the Ojibwey name for the Great Spirit or spirits. Well, if it counts, my vote would be for Buzzard Coulee. Cheers, Mike Tettenborn, Owen Sound, Ontario __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Non Canadians must wait!
Proud to be Canadian! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWDXE9Pbjic And new stones available to bout! You can just smell them heh! Cheers, tett - Original Message - From: "McCartney Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 4:47 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Non Canadians must wait! Sonny and I are still getting many emails asking for Lone Rock material from non Canadians. We did follow the laws on this one, we turned it all over to our Canadian handler. Paperwork is being submitted very soon. Please wait 3-6 months. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites are not the only valuable we collect. Meteorite Mag.
Wow, a back issue of Meteorite Mag from 2004 just went on eBay for over $80! I have about 30 issues dating back to 1999. Perhaps I should start keeping them in ricker mounts! Cheers, Mike Tettenborn __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite (Not the Fall!)
List, Not too much has been mentioned about the new Canadian iron to be found as most of the press has been given to the new fall in Lloydminster Sask.. Instead of driving from Edmonton two hours east to Saskatchewan you can drive about the same west to Whitecourt Alberta and see a newly discovered crater with lots of iron meteorites. It is now protected to help preserve the small crater which is too bad for meteorite hunters. Hopefully some science will be gained at the cost of keeping us out from gobbling up some nice irons. Apparently there are lots of Sikhote like irons to be found. Friends from the University of Western Ontario were out to Whitecourt last month and retrieved lots of material. A very exciting find because the crater is so very young and in great shape. An exciting time for Canadian meteorite enthusiasts. Here is more info: http://easweb.eas.ualberta.ca/page/108 Cheers! Mike Tettenborn One anxious Canadian meteorite enthusiast waiting for his piece of Lloydminster __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Reward offered for meteorite find
Roman, Yes, if there is lots of material in Canadian institutions then it will be much easier to get a permit. But, in the end, one will always be able to sell a Canadian meteorite. See this link: http://easweb.eas.ualberta.ca/download/file/meteorite_regulations.pdf Mike P.S.: The two big lads are flying west tomorrow morning. - Original Message - From: "Roman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "metlist" Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Reward offered for meteorite find One definitely needs to apply for an export permit. If enough material made it to Canadian institutions for study or the national collection, then a permit should be granted. If not, then they can refuse the permit. My take on it. Best regards, Roman Jirasek - Original Message - From: "tett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite List" Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Reward offered for meteorite find Mike, This meteorite will be protected by the Canadian Cultural and Heritage act. This means that it would be illegal to export any fragments or individuals without clearance from the Canadian government. To get clearance you would need to apply to the government and then the government would need to make a counter offer equal to the market value of the meteorite. If they do not make an offer then they are obligated to allow export. I am told this would take about 6-8 months but could be a little longer. It is legal to export Canadian meteorites but one must give the Canadian government first right of refusal. At least, this is the way I understand things. Cheers, Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario - Original Message - From: "Mike Groetz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite List" Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 3:14 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Reward offered for meteorite find What is the relationship of this verses the meteorite being Canadian property? I really hope he is able to get some of it though if it can be found. Mike http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20081124/CGY_meteorite_reward_081124/20081124/?hub=CalgaryHome Reward offered for meteorite find Updated: Mon Nov. 24 2008 17:15:47 An Arizona meteorite hunter is offering a big reward for anyone who finds a piece of the giant fireball that blazed across Alberta last week. The incredible object from space lit up the night sky on Thursday and was the talk of Western Canadians and space enthusiasts around the world. Some experts believe the meteor fell east of Wainwright just across the border with Saskatchewan. Scientists and treasure hunters from across the province, including Calgary, are scouring that area trying to find the debris trail. Robert Haag, who runs a meteorite website in the U-S, says he'll pay 10 thousand dollars to the first person to find a piece. Meteorite hunting can be a lucrative trade. Haag estimates there could be as much as one million dollars worth of meteorites on the ground from this single meteor. A basketball-sized piece could sell for up to 50 thousand dollars. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Please visit my new thin section photography &collection website
Jeff, Outstanding! Mike - Original Message - From: "jeff hodges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "meteorite-list" Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:00 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Please visit my new thin section photography &collection website Good evening All, I just finished working on my new website to display my thin section collection and photography. So far I have photos up for 18 meteorites. Enjoy. Jeff Hodges go to: www.meteoritethinsectiongallery.com then click on: alphabetical index. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Reward offered for meteorite find
Mike, This meteorite will be protected by the Canadian Cultural and Heritage act. This means that it would be illegal to export any fragments or individuals without clearance from the Canadian government. To get clearance you would need to apply to the government and then the government would need to make a counter offer equal to the market value of the meteorite. If they do not make an offer then they are obligated to allow export. I am told this would take about 6-8 months but could be a little longer. It is legal to export Canadian meteorites but one must give the Canadian government first right of refusal. At least, this is the way I understand things. Cheers, Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario - Original Message - From: "Mike Groetz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite List" Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 3:14 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Reward offered for meteorite find What is the relationship of this verses the meteorite being Canadian property? I really hope he is able to get some of it though if it can be found. Mike http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20081124/CGY_meteorite_reward_081124/20081124/?hub=CalgaryHome Reward offered for meteorite find Updated: Mon Nov. 24 2008 17:15:47 An Arizona meteorite hunter is offering a big reward for anyone who finds a piece of the giant fireball that blazed across Alberta last week. The incredible object from space lit up the night sky on Thursday and was the talk of Western Canadians and space enthusiasts around the world. Some experts believe the meteor fell east of Wainwright just across the border with Saskatchewan. Scientists and treasure hunters from across the province, including Calgary, are scouring that area trying to find the debris trail. Robert Haag, who runs a meteorite website in the U-S, says he'll pay 10 thousand dollars to the first person to find a piece. Meteorite hunting can be a lucrative trade. Haag estimates there could be as much as one million dollars worth of meteorites on the ground from this single meteor. A basketball-sized piece could sell for up to 50 thousand dollars. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 3368 Pink Eucrite
Good morning list. Have been missing the meteorite pic of the day (does anyone have news yet?) and so I thought I would post a pic of my latest baby. A gorgeous eucrite with a subtle pink hue. "A monomict eucrite breccia having large diogenite clasts and extremely fine grained basaltic clasts set in a light matrix having a pink hue!" Purchased this slice from John Birdsell of Arizona. The slice is perfect! Thickness does not vary by more than 0.1mm and both surfaces are finished to the best polish for this material. Here is a pic: http://ca.geocities.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/metpics/NWA3368_34.8g_a.jpg My other "pic of the day" is from a small box of "quack" medicine I purchased. From 1910 this box is unopened and contains a vial of "meteorite electric powder". A little bit of ephemera showing how 100 years ago meteorites were already considered magic. Here is a pic: http://ca.geocities.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/metpics/Meteorite_electric_powder.JPG Cheers! Mike Tettenborn __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] People can now touch a piece of Mars
Tim, Well done! Your display looks wonderful and I am sure many visitors will be thrilled to touch Mars. Please let us know what reactions you do get from your visitors. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn - Original Message - From: "Timothy Heitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:45 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] People can now touch a piece of Mars Hello List, I finally finished a project that I have been working on for many months. I have setup a display at the St.Louis Planetarium so people can touch a piece of the Red Planet Mars. http://www.meteorman.org/Mars_LED.htm This is the only place in the world where the public can touch another world. Best, Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES - http://www.meteorman.org __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ?
I now have a much deeper appreciation for Millbillillie. I will not attempt cleaning and will reflect on the "subtle" beauty these meteorites have. Many Thanks! Mike - Original Message - From: "Alexander Seidel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "tett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? I agree that there is a special characteristic that would be lost if the red staining were to be removed from a Millbillillie individual. However, it is also great to have meteorites pristine with no terrestrial alteration. The priciest Millbillillies are those that with dark black glassy crusts. No, a meteorite like Millbillillie should be looked at in a much more subtle way! It fell in 1960, and was collected no earlier than 10 years later! Talking about Millbillillie is exciting in many respects, as it e. g. displays different textures on cut slices, but talking about exterior surface, I would always prefer a piece with natural (laterite) patina over a piece which was somehow "cleaned" (..if this were possible..) or has only got some more or less glossy black crust alone rather than the brownish-reddish surface stains that are so very *typical* for this meteorite, and are part of its "character", so to say...! You are right insofar as, when we are talking about may be fresh Eucrites or fresh Howardites, we are looking and longing for fresh glossy black crust in the first place, as will be the case with e. g. the early collected pieces of a historical fall like Stannern, or some rare other finds and falls, but things are a quite a bit different with a fall like Millbillillie, even if it occured as late as 1960, considered a "fresh" fall Well, nothing but my two (Euro-)Cents, Alex Berlin/Germany __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ?
Bob, I agree that there is a special characteristic that would be lost if the red staining were to be removed from a Millbillillie individual. However, it is also great to have meteorites pristine with no terrestrial alteration. The priciest Millbillillies are those that with dark black glassy crusts. Best to have lots of these, some with the unique red staining and some with a pristine black crust. Cheers! tett - Original Message - From: "Bob Loeffler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'meteorite list'" Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? Hi tett, I don't know how to remove that red staining safely, but I would not want to do it to my Millbillillie because the red stain is a uniquely identifying feature of Millbillillie's. When you or anyone sees the red stain on that eucrite, it's obviously a Millbillillie. If you remove the staining, then there is no way to know where it fell. Just my opinion. Regards, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tett Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 6:58 PM To: meteorite list Subject: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? List, Happy Halloween! Wondering if anyone has successfully cleaned Millibillillie indivduals. Can one remove some of the red staining to reveal the black glassy fusion crust without damaging that crust? Cheers, tett __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: nice impact melt for sale complete 2116 gr.
Aziz, Any nice type 3 stuff still available? Looking for some smaller slices. Achondrites. $100 to $400 range. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn - Original Message - From: "habibi abdelaziz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "meteorite list" Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:28 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: nice impact melt for sale complete 2116 gr. hi all i have this 2116 gr impact melt breccia for sale. http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/2967903497/in/set-72157603690033934/ and some nwa 869 complete black purple. many other stufs very interesting , please email me if you are interested. all the best aziz habibi. http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/ habibi aziz www.palmerfoud.com www.palmotel.com box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco phone. 21235576145 fax.21235576170 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ?
List, Happy Halloween! Wondering if anyone has successfully cleaned Millibillillie indivduals. Can one remove some of the red staining to reveal the black glassy fusion crust without damaging that crust? Cheers, tett __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) more meteorites forsale
Steve, Do you have pics of the 1685? Please let me have first dibs. Mike - Original Message - From: "steve arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 6:15 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] (AD) more meteorites forsale Hi again list.I have 4 meteorites forsale.I have 2 NWA 1685 Individuals (82 grams $150) and (90 grams $200).I also have a 234 gram endcut of (nwa 788 $200).And I have a 300 gram slice of (SAU 001 $175.00)I have pics of all of them,plus free shipping.Let me know offlist.No more ad posts after this one. steve arnold __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Summer time slowdown
Having a nice coffee on a slow Saturday morning while relaxing at my computer I began to contemplate meteorites and I picked up my gorgeous ~250gram Chergach individual (Thanks Roman!). I began to realize that summer time is a slow time for me when it comes to meteorites. Not that my love for them wanes but other interests and activities and commitments arise during the summer and over the years I found that I simply stop going nuts over meteorites and turn my attention to other things. One big distraction is motorcycles. I spend as much time on the open road cruising on my Valkyrie or bombing on my 1975 CB750. Never enough time to ride one of my bikes and even my wife complains that I do not take her riding enough. I have no fear that my love(lust) for meteorites will explode again this fall as it has every year for the past dozen years or so. In October I hope to pop in on Bernd and that will definitely kick me in the back side and get my meteorite saliva flowing. All this contemplation got me to thinking about you other guys and gals hooked on stellar stones. Is your love for meteorites cyclical? Is that why the list is so slow right now? What seasonal activities distract others from meteorites? Are sales slowest this time of year? Have a great Saturday! Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim: latest news
Zelimer, Wow! What an incredible collection of Eastern European Meteorites. I am so sorry that I am not able to attend the show. Will there be any chance of photos of this display? Cheers, Mike Tettenborn - Original Message - From: "Zelimir Gabelica" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: "dominique VELUT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "jean Marie Blosser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:05 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim: latest news Hi list, Some recent news about "Ensisheim 2008" that starts in 3 days from now, this answering various requirements and questions I am currently receiving: 1) Weather forecast (reliability about 75%): Today is ending the medium-cold & rainy wave (18°C) with a significant temperature increase and clearing predicted for Wed. & Thu (for early-early birds): 24°C, partly cloudy. Friday: light morning rain possibilities and 23°C (71 F), so that the dinner party could either be held outside (not very likely) or, more probably in the famous cellar. Saturday: 23°C, dry, partly cloudy, just appropriate for evening meals in the outside tents, music and dancing activities on the main square. Sunday: sunny and heat wave starting (27°C = about 81 F), extending on Monday (29°C, thunderstorms possible) for those already heading to Ste Marie, exploring wineyards or just visiting. 2) I had a contact with our friend Serge Afanasiev. He will be "free again" from next November and so will be Slava Skorniakov. Both firmly expect being our guests in 2009. Serge anounced that Dima Sadilenko and Sergey Petukhov will be again representing Russia as dealers in Ensisheim 2008. All tables are rented except 2 of them that are "on hold" (for 2 very last minute participants who currently "forget to confirm"...(they are lucky that our rules can sometimes be less rigid than elsewhere...selectively for them! - hey folks, this is my last warning!) 3) So far I have 85 participants who reserved for the Friday dinner-party. We can easily accomodate 95, as last year. This is my last call for a few "lunatics" (never worry, Norbert, your place is firmly reserved...) 4) The thematic exhibit (meteorites from Russia and Eastern Europe) will be greatly enhanced by some impressive meteorites brought by our "brother-guardian" Sergey Sasiliev "from some private collections or museums". Here is the list: 1. Brient (AEUC-P), 20.15g, two sides cut fragment w. some crust, label from Moscow Academy of Sciences (MAS) 2. Chervony Kut (AEUC-M), 83.81g, complete slice with crust all around, label MAS 3. Elenovka (L5), 52.4g, fragment with some crust, from private collector 4. Elga (IIE), 22.6g, etched block, from MAS but no label 5. Erevan (AHOW), 3.0g, partial slice w. some crust, label MAS 6. Glasatovo (H4), 8.8g, partial slice w. some crust, from private collector 7. Ivanovka (H5), 102.8g, partial slice w. some rusty crust, from MAS but no label 8. Lipovsky (PAL), 262g, end cut w. some rusty crust, from Kharkov Univ., Ukraine, no label 9. Krasnojarsk (PAL-MG), 222g, one side cut fragment, from St.Petersburg Mining Museum, no label but small number on the specimen 10. Krymka (LL3.1), 28.2g, end cut with crust, from private collector 11. Novo-Urei (AURE), 17.4g, slice, label MAS 12. Ochansk (H4), 1723.6g, complete stone with crust, label from Kazan University, Russia 13. Padvarninkai (AEUC-M), 9.7g, partial slice with crust, label MAS 14. Pesyanoe (AUB), 48.5g, fragment with some crust, label MAS 15. Pomozdino (AEC-C), 30.56, almost complete slice w. crust, label MAS 16. Pervomaisky (L6), 836.4g, complete stone, label MAS 17. Vetluga (AEUC-M), 35.37g, partial slice w. crust, label MAS 18. Yurtuk (AHOW), 21.6g, half stone w. crust, from MAS but no label 19. Zhmenj (AHOW), 2.88g, partial slice, label MAS 20. Pavlovka (AHOW), 0.264g, fragment w. some crust, from private collector Note many rare types (IIE, AEUC, AUB, AHOW...), odd provenances (Erevan, Padvarninkai, Pavlovka, Zhmenj...), large "more common" pieces (262g Lipovsky, 222 g (!) Krasnojarsk, or almost 2 kg of crusted Ochansk. And who has ever seen a "giant" (48.5 g) Pesyanoe aubrite, a 17.4 g of Novo-Urei or a 30.6 g complete slice of Pomozdino eucrite (tkw = 327 grams!) ? Their exhibit will be completed by some less commonly seen pieces from other collections, among which: Augustinovka (45.1 g), Bachmut, 65.4 g), Braunau (6.65 g), Gressk (5.54 g), Hraschina slice (3.1 g), Jelica (12.8 g), Khmelevka (11.6 g), Krymka (17.4 g), Kunashak (31.4 g), Kuznetsovo, a "hammer!,(7.8 g); Mezö-Madaras (3.5 g), Milena (15.2 g), Seeläsgen (64.1 g), Tabor (14 g), Tomakovka (15 g), Tsarev (290 g), Vavilovka (9.7 g), Zaklodzie (14.1 g), and a pannel with some very rare micromounts. For sure, you will also see many weird shaped Sikhote-Alins, old Pultusks, Brahins or that 918 g Seymchan with the outline of the "profile of Jacques Chirac", a 333 g full slice of Vyatka, a nicely oriented (!) Morasko chunk (253 g) or a very fresh 91.5 g Kainsaz resem
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership
Well, I was just saying to myself the other day that I should investigate joining. Now I am not so sure ;>( Why join if you can't get quick access to their online journals and get their publications in a reasonable time frame. To add someone to a mailing list and grant access to the online journals should not be a monumental task. I will wait and see what others have to say about joining the Meteoritical Society Mike Tettenborn - Original Message - From: "Norbert Classen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership Hi Bernd, Walter, and All, The same here Bernd - but's that's probably just because they want to raise our appetite for the first 4 issues of 2008 ,-) Joking aside: being in the publishing business since many years I know how hard it is to complete such volumoneous issues in a timely manner, and I'm sure all the people at the MetSoc and at M&PS are doing their very best to provide us with their publications. Personally, I'm not concerned as all the best things often take a while... So, just be patient; I'm sure that the December issue 2007 will be on its way, soon. And some of you thought Meteorite Magazine, Meteorite-Times or IMCA Insights were slow ,-? Patiently Yours, Norbert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Walter writes: "when I sent my check a few years back, it was nearly a year and only after several emails did I my membership actually become official." Hello All, .. and while we are at it, my latest issue of MAPS is November 2007 !!! :-( :-( :-( Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites not being able to leave certaincountries
Steve, In Canada, as to the best of my knowledge, meteorites are protected under a cultural heritage act. Same as Canadian works of art and historic artifacts. All of these items can be exported but the government wants scientific and/or cultural institutions to have a chance to acquire these things in order to keep heritage objects in Canada and available to Canadians. In order to export meteorites, and any other item protected under the same act, the seller needs to make an application and advise what they want to do. Institutions can then make offers and try to acquire the piece. After some time (perhaps a year?) the seller can then export the item if no reasonable offers are made. I believe this is how things work in Canada. It is a shame that some nice Canadian meteorites can not be easily sold to collectors around the world and perhaps meteorites should not be covered under the same legislation as historic and cultural artifacts. If this were the case then perhaps there would be more interest in Canadian meteorites and falls would be more enthusiastically hunted. Also, if Canadian can prove that they purchased a Canadian meteorite from outside Canada then I believe that the meteorite, or part of it, can be exported again without permission from the Canadian government. I can understand where governments are coming from but I tend to believe it is best if we did not have these restrictions. Cheers, Mike Tettenborn P.S. Please try and use your space bar in future emails. - Original Message - From: "steve arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 9:41 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorites not being able to leave certaincountries Good morning list.I want to start a new thread on something,that to me is a real steamer,that makes me a really upset,as to why certain countries prevent meteorites from being able to leave without proper papers.You have Australia,Canada,Oman,and now Argentina.If there are more I do not of them.I really want to know the reasoning behind such mind sets.We all live on the same planet,why deny everyone a chance to own a piece of the cosmic puzzle that we all love to collect?Any thought??When I read that countries are now going to keep them under lock and key it just does not make any sence. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! http://chicagometeorites.net/ Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro?
It sure has been a pleasure buying meteorites into Canada! When I started collecting about 10 years ago I was paying $1.60cnd to the US greenback. Now we are at par! Cheers, Mike Tettenborn - Original Message - From: "E.P. Grondine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 8:57 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro? Hi all - Given the fall of the US dollar against the Euro, it would seem to me that US meteorites, as well as meteorites imported earlier into the US, might now be relatively cheap for individuals with non-dollar funds. goof hunting all, E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Monthly Favourite
Wow! Any for sale??? If yes, please reply OFF list. ;>) Cheers, Mike Tettenborn - Original Message - From: "Jeff Kuyken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite List" Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 2:43 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Monthly Favourite Hi all, I'm playing catch-up so here is February 2008. ;-) http://www.meteorites.com.au/favourite.html Cheers, Jeff __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad: Left over Tucson meteorite T shirts
Floyd, Just tried to buy the flying rocks XL T Shirt but can't as I am in Canada. Anything you can do? Cheers, Mike Tettenborn - Original Message - From: "Floyd "Griff" Griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "meteorite-list" Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:33 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ad: Left over Tucson meteorite T shirts Hello and good day list. I wanted to let you know that I have listed 2 types of meteorite T shirts on ebay. I made these up for the Tucson show and have a few left. The shirts are 100% pre-shrunk cotton There are 9 "Meteor Wrong" T shirts 1 size M 5 size L 3 size XL http://cgi.ebay.com/Meteorite-wrong-T-Shirts-Just-a-few-shirts-left_W0QQitemZ220217300740QQihZ012QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem And 5 of the "Flying Rocks" T shirts 4 size L 1 size XL http://cgi.ebay.com/Flying-Rocks-T-Shirts-Just-a-few-shirts-left_W0QQitemZ220217302789QQihZ012QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Please indicate the size when ordering. Thanks and best to all, Floyd "Griff" Griffith Parker, Colorado, USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] cleaning Gaos
Hello List, Looking for help in cleaning little Gaos. I have one which has been in my collection for over 10 years and it is as black and fresh as any pristine meteorite I have seen. I also have some Gaos which are also very nice but rusty lookng. I cleaned one with acid and a light scrub. This turned the stone chaulky white. Some olive oil helped to turn it black but still not as nice as my 1st beauty. Does anyone have a secret recipe they are willing to share on how to clean Gaos? Any help would be appreciated. Cheers, tett Owen Sound, Ontario __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
