Re: [meteorite-list] [SPAM] Re: Larry's Holbrook Holy Grail Find

[DNAndrews]

>They say Holbrook is the product of two breakups, one
>after the other, when the largest fragment then re-fragmented
>again.
>  
>
Hi Sterling,
Yes, according to the original Holbrook Argus newspaper articles right 
after the fall, there were two detonations.  My theory is that the first 
landed at the "Holbrook" strewnfield.  The second?  Have you seen/heard 
of Bob Haag's "Venus Stone"?  I know exactly where and how it was found 
and have been waiting permission to search the private property.  Even 
Bob himself doesn't know how or exactly where it was found (well he 
might now, because I told him the story a while back).  The owners of 
the land and finders of the stone didn't know what they had and just 
gave it to a passer-by who in turn traded it for enough cash to buy 
himself a new trailer house.

Just a theory though.
Dave

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Re: [meteorite-list] [SPAM] Re: Larry's Holbrook Holy Grail Find

[Moni Waiblinger]

Hi All,

so I am wondering, what if Larry's meteorite is one of the "Venus Stones"?
Guess then all the little fragments he is selling off, will have a different 
name?

Not Holbrook meteorite?
Can some one clarify this for me?
Is Bob Haag's meteorite classified as such, Venus Stone?

With best regards,
Moni



From: DNAndrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Sterling K. Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [SPAM] Re:  Larry's Holbrook Holy Grail Find
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:16:25 -0700


>They say Holbrook is the product of two breakups, one
>after the other, when the largest fragment then re-fragmented
>again.
>
>
Hi Sterling,
Yes, according to the original Holbrook Argus newspaper articles right
after the fall, there were two detonations.  My theory is that the first
landed at the "Holbrook" strewnfield.  The second?  Have you seen/heard
of Bob Haag's "Venus Stone"?  I know exactly where and how it was found
and have been waiting permission to search the private property.  Even
Bob himself doesn't know how or exactly where it was found (well he
might now, because I told him the story a while back).  The owners of
the land and finders of the stone didn't know what they had and just
gave it to a passer-by who in turn traded it for enough cash to buy
himself a new trailer house.

Just a theory though.
Dave

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Re: [meteorite-list] [SPAM] Re: Larry's Holbrook Holy Grail Find and BobHaag's Venus Stone

[DNAndrews]

100 bucks now?  They used to be $25 if I remember correctlyhowever I 
have CRS now (Can't Remember S_it).   I remember I bought a slice of 
Esquel from Bob in the late 90's (and not that big of slice either) and 
he through in the cast.  Righteous dude he is.

Dave

Mike Jensen wrote:

> Hi
> Here is an image of the cast of the "Venus Stone" from Bob's site.
> http://www.meteoriteman.com/graphics/venus.jpg
>
> He sells them for $100 each. My brother and I both picked up one at 
> the Tucson show this year. If I remember correctly he said those were 
> the last ones he had for sale. But you might email him to see if he 
> has any more for sale.
> http://www.meteoriteman.com/misc.htm
>
> Mike
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> Mike Jensen
> Jensen Meteorites
> 16730 E Ada PL
> Aurora, CO 80017-3137
> 303-337-4361
> IMCA 4264
> website: www.jensenmeteorites.com 
>
> On 2/22/07, R. N. Hartman < [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
>
> Alex wrote < of getting
> some classification data! >>
>
> Then cut the cast instead.  :=)
>
> (He!He!)
>
> Ron
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Alexander Seidel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >;
>  >
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Larry's Holbrook Holy Grail Find and
> BobHaag's
> Venus Stone
>
>
> I am also the lucky owner of one of those Venus stone casts from
> Bob Haag.
> Beautiful! And you know why he called this one the "Venus
> stone"..?? :-)
>
> This is one very special nice example of a flight-oriented
> meteorite, where
> the rule applies: NEVER EVER cut specimen like these just for the
> sake of
> getting some classification data! Why? Because a cut would destroy
> the
> "character" of the piece!
>
> And so we don´t know what´s inside this beautiful meteorite, we
> can only
> make some assumptions from non-destructive observation.
>
> Alex
> Berlin/Germany
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>
>  Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: 22 Feb 2007 18:11:00 UT
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> 
> CC:
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Larry\'s Holbrook Holy Grail Find and
> Bob Haag\'s
> Venus Stone
>
> > Hello Moni and List,
> >
> > Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Dave Andrews wrote to the List:
> >
> > Hi List, The Adamana or "Venus Stone" was found in the Adamana
> landfill.
> > Near the Petrified Forest/Painted Desert boundary. (about 15
> miles NE of
> > Holbrook on I-40). Evidently someone just didn't want it anymore
> or didn't
> > know what they had. It was found by a rancher target practicing
> with his
> > 0.22 rifle. With the selling of the piece to Bob, I heard he
> purchased a
> > new mobile home to live in. I have one of the casts, and it
> looks very
> > real.
> > It looks so real, that I think I'll put it up on eBay with a
> $15,000
> > reserve.
> > (just kidding :o) Regards, Dave
> >
> >
> > I got one of these casts too many years ago and they do look real!
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Bernd
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Re: [meteorite-list] [SPAM] Re: Larry's Holbrook Holy Grail Find and Bob Haag's Venus Stone

[DNAndrews]

Hi Moni,
No, it isn't related to Bob Haag's piece other than it could "possibly" 
be from the same fall.  Larry's find was a whole individual (some 
fragmentation) and it looked exactly like a Holbrook meteorite to 
me...only BIG!  It has the same small, dark chondrules in a light matrix 
as a typical Holbrook.  The crust looked the same as a typical Holbrook 
tooonly BIG!  ;-)

Best,
Dave

Moni Waiblinger wrote:

> Hi All again,
>
> I am so under the weather with another relapse of a very bad cold!
> Anyway, thank you for all your input.
> I still wonder if Larry's might be related to Bob Haag's meteorite, 
> Adamana.
>
> http://www.nuggetshooter.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4794
>
> Didn't he mention that it looks very different from an ordinary 
> Holbrook meteorites with lots of chondrules and being exposed after 
> many years.
> Is this what the Adamana looks like?
> Lots of chondrules?
> But guess even if Larry has his classified, we will never know if it 
> is paired with Bob's, right! ;-)
>
> Back to the couch,
> Moni
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Re: [meteorite-list] [SPAM] Re: Larry's Holbrook Holy Grail Find and Bob Haag's Venus Stone

[Ruben Garcia]

Hi all,
I only saw tiny fragments of Larrys find (pieces my
friend Earl dug out of the very same hole) but they
were typical Holbrook. Also it was right in the middle
of the Holbrook Strewn Field and nowhere near the
Adamana find.

Ruben

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