[meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Clues

2011-10-21 Thread MexicoDoug

Clues for the meteorite hunt:

Non-Antarctic, I have seen 12 perfect meteorite anagrams involving 24 
meteorites, more than previously thought and all valid.  So don't be 
afraid to get your ticket.  The TKW is 69 letters (138 counting anagram 
pairings).  They are out there it is up to you to find them! Just like 
in the field ;-) Agh


The highest possible score is a main mass of 21 (a seven letter 
meteorite name tripled for perfect anagrams).  There are two of those 
though; one of those anagram pairing can be made by moving only one 
letter in one to another position; in the other case, two letters need 
to be moved which would immediately win the contest since it is more 
shuffled and the highest scoring meteorite in the official meteorite 
dictionary (unless someone pulls an Antarctic surprise).


The single eight letter compound word is penalized since it is just an 
inversion of two common four letter words and is scored as only 6 for 
that reason (2 tripled), in last place of the 12.


One anagram involves a cool type specimen ...

All diacritical marks on letters are not to be recognized for the 
purpose of the hunt, so ñ is counted as n, ü as u, á as a, ł is l,

etc., apostrophe (') is ignored, as is dash (-), etc.

No anagram canned software or anagram programs are allowed under the 
honor system, but anything you can do wholly on your own in a Excel or 
a similar commercial spreadsheet program is fine including importing 
data to it you can mooch off Jeff, Sergey or whoever is stomping around 
the virtual strewn field with the right meteorite hunting tools.


Good luck!  If no one finds the top scoring meteorite pair sooner, the 
hunt is over on Sunday 23 October at 11:59 PM PDT (Los Angeles time) 
and the highest scoring entry submitted before that point wins which 
still might be an imperfect anagram.




Kindest wishes
Doug



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Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

2011-10-21 Thread MexicoDoug
How else could you provide us some of the finest localities to some of 
us crazies, if not by written telepathy?  (really your language 
subroutines need a richer idiom capability, something only you probably 
could pull off in in lunch hour)


Have I ever thanked you in public for such a carbonaceous treasure 
Efremovka some time ago (no, I didn't even mention I received it, 
shamelessly), who else could so well understand devotion to such a 
fantastic dually oxidized reduced beauty!  I am very, very proud of 
this specimen!


Kindest wishes Sergey!

-Original Message-
From: Sergey Vasiliev 
To: MexicoDoug 
Cc: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 5:57 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Even I can't translate what you are talking about, I understood that
you know the name ;-)
Sergey

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:43 PM, MexicoDoug  wrote:
I 've pepped it up, but alas to no avail ... but only find the 

meteorite

Enon, which backwards is only none ...

;-)

-Original Message-
From: Sergey Vasiliev 
To: MexicoDoug 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 5:00 pm
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Yes, 2 of 3 are from USA
Sergey

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Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:57 PM
To: vs.petrov...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
jgross...@usgs.gov
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


PS Sergey, Jeff

Otto is from the USA - are two of three from the USA, then?

Here is a swell palindrome from the USA:

Wardswell Draw

Kindest wishes
Doug


-Original Message-
From: Sergey Vasiliev 
To: MexicoDoug ; Meteorite-list

Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:28 pm
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Hi Doug,


But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the


Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name 

...


The third one is from USA! ;-)

Regards,
Sergey



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Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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OK, we are clear for the anagram contest to continue ;-)


Hi Rob,

Ziz is not official, it doesn't count in my rules.

But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the
Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name 

...


Jeff:

Besides Sierra County & Superior Valley:

Coyote Mountains
Gascoyne Junction
Gaines County Park
Oktibbeha County

and if you count this:
Phillips County (pallasite)

Which total seven, but the (pallasite) would be lame in my rules.

Kindest wishes
Doug

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From: Matson, Robert D. 
To: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 3:01 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Hi Jeff,


Double bonus: 7 meteorites, including Sierra County, use all of the
letters A-E-I-O-U-Y.  All are in the United States except for one.
Name it.


I thought of one of U.S. ones right away, only because I found several
of them:  "Superior Valley xxx" ;-)  --Rob

P.S.  Probably the highest palindromic meteorite in the alphabet is 

Ziz.


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Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

2011-10-21 Thread Sergey Vasiliev
Even I can't translate what you are talking about, I understood that
you know the name ;-)
Sergey

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:43 PM, MexicoDoug  wrote:
> I 've pepped it up, but alas to no avail ... but only find the meteorite
> Enon, which backwards is only none ...
>
> ;-)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sergey Vasiliev 
> To: MexicoDoug 
> Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 5:00 pm
> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update
>
>
> Yes, 2 of 3 are from USA
> Sergey
>
> -Original Message-
> From: MexicoDoug [mailto:mexicod...@aim.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:57 PM
> To: vs.petrov...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
> jgross...@usgs.gov
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update
>
>
> PS Sergey, Jeff
>
> Otto is from the USA - are two of three from the USA, then?
>
> Here is a swell palindrome from the USA:
>
> Wardswell Draw
>
> Kindest wishes
> Doug
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Sergey Vasiliev 
> To: MexicoDoug ; Meteorite-list
> 
> Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:28 pm
> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update
>
>
> Hi Doug,
>
>> But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the
>
> Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...
>
> The third one is from USA! ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Sergey
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]On Behalf Of
> MexicoDoug
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:18 PM
> To: robert.d.mat...@saic.com; jgross...@usgs.gov;
> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update
>
>
> OK, we are clear for the anagram contest to continue ;-)
>
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> Ziz is not official, it doesn't count in my rules.
>
> But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the
> Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...
>
> Jeff:
>
> Besides Sierra County & Superior Valley:
>
> Coyote Mountains
> Gascoyne Junction
> Gaines County Park
> Oktibbeha County
>
> and if you count this:
> Phillips County (pallasite)
>
> Which total seven, but the (pallasite) would be lame in my rules.
>
> Kindest wishes
> Doug
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matson, Robert D. 
> To: Meteorite-list 
> Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 3:01 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update
>
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
>> Double bonus: 7 meteorites, including Sierra County, use all of the
>> letters A-E-I-O-U-Y.  All are in the United States except for one.
>> Name it.
>
> I thought of one of U.S. ones right away, only because I found several
> of them:  "Superior Valley xxx" ;-)  --Rob
>
> P.S.  Probably the highest palindromic meteorite in the alphabet is Ziz.
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

2011-10-21 Thread MexicoDoug
I 've pepped it up, but alas to no avail ... but only find the 
meteorite Enon, which backwards is only none ...


;-)

-Original Message-
From: Sergey Vasiliev 
To: MexicoDoug 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 5:00 pm
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Yes, 2 of 3 are from USA
Sergey

-Original Message-
From: MexicoDoug [mailto:mexicod...@aim.com]
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:57 PM
To: vs.petrov...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
jgross...@usgs.gov
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


PS Sergey, Jeff

Otto is from the USA - are two of three from the USA, then?

Here is a swell palindrome from the USA:

Wardswell Draw

Kindest wishes
Doug


-Original Message-
From: Sergey Vasiliev 
To: MexicoDoug ; Meteorite-list

Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:28 pm
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Hi Doug,


But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the

Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...

The third one is from USA! ;-)

Regards,
Sergey



-Original Message-
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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]On Behalf Of
MexicoDoug
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:18 PM
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Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


OK, we are clear for the anagram contest to continue ;-)


Hi Rob,

Ziz is not official, it doesn't count in my rules.

But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the
Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...

Jeff:

Besides Sierra County & Superior Valley:

Coyote Mountains
Gascoyne Junction
Gaines County Park
Oktibbeha County

and if you count this:
Phillips County (pallasite)

Which total seven, but the (pallasite) would be lame in my rules.

Kindest wishes
Doug

-Original Message-
From: Matson, Robert D. 
To: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 3:01 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Hi Jeff,


Double bonus: 7 meteorites, including Sierra County, use all of the
letters A-E-I-O-U-Y.  All are in the United States except for one.
Name it.


I thought of one of U.S. ones right away, only because I found several
of them:  "Superior Valley xxx" ;-)  --Rob

P.S.  Probably the highest palindromic meteorite in the alphabet is Ziz.

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Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

2011-10-21 Thread MexicoDoug

PS Sergey, Jeff

Otto is from the USA - are two of three from the USA, then?

Here is a swell palindrome from the USA:

Wardswell Draw

Kindest wishes
Doug


-Original Message-
From: Sergey Vasiliev 
To: MexicoDoug ; Meteorite-list 


Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:28 pm
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Hi Doug,


But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the

Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...

The third one is from USA! ;-)

Regards,
Sergey



-Original Message-
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MexicoDoug
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Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


OK, we are clear for the anagram contest to continue ;-)


Hi Rob,

Ziz is not official, it doesn't count in my rules.

But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the
Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...

Jeff:

Besides Sierra County & Superior Valley:

Coyote Mountains
Gascoyne Junction
Gaines County Park
Oktibbeha County

and if you count this:
Phillips County (pallasite)

Which total seven, but the (pallasite) would be lame in my rules.

Kindest wishes
Doug

-Original Message-
From: Matson, Robert D. 
To: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 3:01 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Hi Jeff,


Double bonus: 7 meteorites, including Sierra County, use all of the
letters A-E-I-O-U-Y.  All are in the United States except for one.
Name it.


I thought of one of U.S. ones right away, only because I found several
of them:  "Superior Valley xxx" ;-)  --Rob

P.S.  Probably the highest palindromic meteorite in the alphabet is Ziz.

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Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

2011-10-21 Thread MexicoDoug

Hi Sergey,

I had to quit for the day, but this is a big mystery, that US 
palindrome.  Is the locality Palindrome, USA ? ;-)


Fun Fun now really in trouble for foolin around

Kinfdest wishes
Doug





-Original Message-
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To: MexicoDoug ; Meteorite-list 


Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:28 pm
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Hi Doug,


But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the

Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...

The third one is from USA! ;-)

Regards,
Sergey



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Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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OK, we are clear for the anagram contest to continue ;-)


Hi Rob,

Ziz is not official, it doesn't count in my rules.

But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the
Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...

Jeff:

Besides Sierra County & Superior Valley:

Coyote Mountains
Gascoyne Junction
Gaines County Park
Oktibbeha County

and if you count this:
Phillips County (pallasite)

Which total seven, but the (pallasite) would be lame in my rules.

Kindest wishes
Doug

-Original Message-
From: Matson, Robert D. 
To: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 3:01 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Hi Jeff,


Double bonus: 7 meteorites, including Sierra County, use all of the
letters A-E-I-O-U-Y.  All are in the United States except for one.
Name it.


I thought of one of U.S. ones right away, only because I found several
of them:  "Superior Valley xxx" ;-)  --Rob

P.S.  Probably the highest palindromic meteorite in the alphabet is Ziz.

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Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

2011-10-21 Thread Sergey Vasiliev
Hi Doug,

>But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the
Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...

The third one is from USA! ;-)

Regards,
Sergey



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OK, we are clear for the anagram contest to continue ;-)


Hi Rob,

Ziz is not official, it doesn't count in my rules.

But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the
Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...

Jeff:

Besides Sierra County & Superior Valley:

Coyote Mountains
Gascoyne Junction
Gaines County Park
Oktibbeha County

and if you count this:
Phillips County (pallasite)

Which total seven, but the (pallasite) would be lame in my rules.

Kindest wishes
Doug

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To: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 3:01 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Hi Jeff,

> Double bonus: 7 meteorites, including Sierra County, use all of the
> letters A-E-I-O-U-Y.  All are in the United States except for one.
> Name it.

I thought of one of U.S. ones right away, only because I found several
of them:  "Superior Valley xxx" ;-)  --Rob

P.S.  Probably the highest palindromic meteorite in the alphabet is Ziz.

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Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

2011-10-21 Thread MexicoDoug

OK, we are clear for the anagram contest to continue ;-)


Hi Rob,

Ziz is not official, it doesn't count in my rules.

But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the 
Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...


Jeff:

Besides Sierra County & Superior Valley:

Coyote Mountains
Gascoyne Junction
Gaines County Park
Oktibbeha County

and if you count this:
Phillips County (pallasite)

Which total seven, but the (pallasite) would be lame in my rules.

Kindest wishes
Doug

-Original Message-
From: Matson, Robert D. 
To: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 3:01 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Hi Jeff,


Double bonus: 7 meteorites, including Sierra County, use all of the
letters A-E-I-O-U-Y.  All are in the United States except for one.
Name it.


I thought of one of U.S. ones right away, only because I found several
of them:  "Superior Valley xxx" ;-)  --Rob

P.S.  Probably the highest palindromic meteorite in the alphabet is Ziz.

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Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

2011-10-21 Thread Matson, Robert D.
Hi Jeff,

> Double bonus: 7 meteorites, including Sierra County, use all of the
> letters A-E-I-O-U-Y.  All are in the United States except for one.
> Name it.

I thought of one of U.S. ones right away, only because I found several
of them:  "Superior Valley xxx" ;-)  --Rob

P.S.  Probably the highest palindromic meteorite in the alphabet is Ziz.

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Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

2011-10-21 Thread Jeff Grossman

You got it.

Double bonus: 7 meteorites, including Sierra County, use all of the 
letters A-E-I-O-U-Y.  All are in the United States except for one.  Name it.


Jeff

On 10/21/2011 1:11 PM, MexicoDoug wrote:


Jeff asked:

"What is the only meteorite name to use all the vowels, including y
(a-e-i-o-u-y), where each vowel is used only once?"

May I partcipate in the bonus question (and what's the prize?)

My entry is (valid entry under the honor system):

Sierra County

Kindest wishes
Doug






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Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 11:46 am
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Bonus questions:

What is the only meteorite name to use all the vowels, including y
(a-e-i-o-u-y), where each vowel is used only once?

There are 8 meteorite names (that I can find) for which all of the
letters in the name occur in alphabetical order.  The longest has 6
letters.  What is it?

What are the three meteorite names that are palindromes.

Jeff

On 10/21/2011 11:20 AM, MexicoDoug wrote:

Dear List Anagrammatists,

There are perfect anagram meteorite pairings out there!  Some real
good ones!

Though a perfect anagram where the letters of one are rearranged
exactly into the letters of another withough leaving out any letters
on either, is not necessarily a winner according to the rules, since
imperfect anagram pairings are allowed too, though the perfect 

anagram

likely will score higher and win anyway!

One very kind list member who is quite expert in anagrams has sent me
an informational email  (but kindly respected the honor system rule
and not entered) to prove this fact.

So the last rule is modified,

"If there is no clear winning entry, the winner will be the entrant
who can say METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST ten times in the shortest
interval of
time."

...no longer is necessary;

and replaced by:

If no one figures out a qualifying winning entry otherwise, the
winning entry will be considered the cleverist rearrangement of all
letters of a meteorite name with none left over and none additional,
into a word or a phrase.  Any language is permissable if any
listmember can speak it fluidly, even if the entrant can't.

This is how Galileo first communicated his discovery of Saturn with
its rings (which he thought were three zones of light).  He used
Latin.  There are listmembers with acceptable fluidity in Latin, so
that's an option, too.

The contest is over on Sunday night 11:59 PM (23:50) PDT (Los Angeles
time), 23 October 2011
Kindest wishes
Doug


-Original Message-
From: MexicoDoug 
To: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:13 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge


Dear List:

"2011" Meteorite Challenge

For all those who would like to try their hand at hunting for
meteorites but can't get out into the field, you're invited to try a
virtual meteorite hunt in the strewn field of all meteorite names. 

The
prize is a token chip off Vesta - Tatahouine, of course, that 

beautiful
witnessed fall which is truly unique among meteorites and the rarest 

of

all (more on this later, but now for the hunt...), not expecting it to
be more than a gram; though it will be either sent to the winner or
some other friend or budding collector as directed by the champ.  Plus
the champ receives a conjectured priceless signed certificate naming
you the champion:

"METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST"

An anagram is simply a rearrangement of the letters of one word to 

form

another word.  So, the idea is to hunt for a meteorite and its anagram
pairing.  For example, with numbers, today is: 10/21 (or 21/10 as you
please).  Rearranging the numbers we get 2011 in the spirit of 

Galileo,

who was a very accomplished anagrammist.

I haven't thought of a meteorite name that is a perfect anagram, nor
have I tried ... but, here's an idea:

Allende / Yelland

If only it were Eelland they would be a perfect meteorite anagram
pairing.  In Spanish, Y and E are interchangeable in a certain 

instance

;-)

The objective of the contest is simple - get the biggest anagram you
can find.  Finding one meteorite name in mixed up inside another is 

ok,

even though all the letters of only one are paired to the other.  Rule
of common sense, but in case of difficulty with that:

For a satisfactory effort, here are a few rules:

HONOR SYSTEM - NO USE OF ANAGRAM COMPUTER PROGRAMS AND DOWNLOADING 

DATA

FOR THAT PURPOSE THOUGH A SPREADSHEET IS FINE.  I don't know if any
cheat programs exist, but I imagine they do.

(1)  Minimum of 4 letters
(2) Numbers are not included, but their letters can be used.  For
example ABCDE ### can be used as simply ABCDE.
(3) Reuse of complete words or components of compound words do not
count.  For example, Northeast Africa and Northwest Africa have no
value, nor would "meteor" and 

Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

2011-10-21 Thread Sergey Vasiliev
Great, Doug!

I already know the answer for the palindromes! ;-)
Actually I have 4 names but one is a Pseudometeorite. This one is Aba.

As I said, I will not publish my answers because I'm in a better position
and have a connection to the EoM database.

Working on the second one...

Sergey

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]On Behalf Of
MexicoDoug
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 7:12 PM
To: jngross...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update



Jeff asked:

"What is the only meteorite name to use all the vowels, including y
(a-e-i-o-u-y), where each vowel is used only once?"

May I partcipate in the bonus question (and what's the prize?)

My entry is (valid entry under the honor system):

Sierra County

Kindest wishes
Doug






-Original Message-
From: Jeff Grossman 
To: meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 11:46 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Bonus questions:

What is the only meteorite name to use all the vowels, including y
(a-e-i-o-u-y), where each vowel is used only once?

There are 8 meteorite names (that I can find) for which all of the
letters in the name occur in alphabetical order.  The longest has 6
letters.  What is it?

What are the three meteorite names that are palindromes.

Jeff

On 10/21/2011 11:20 AM, MexicoDoug wrote:
> Dear List Anagrammatists,
>
> There are perfect anagram meteorite pairings out there!  Some real
> good ones!
>
> Though a perfect anagram where the letters of one are rearranged
> exactly into the letters of another withough leaving out any letters
> on either, is not necessarily a winner according to the rules, since
> imperfect anagram pairings are allowed too, though the perfect
anagram
> likely will score higher and win anyway!
>
> One very kind list member who is quite expert in anagrams has sent me
> an informational email  (but kindly respected the honor system rule
> and not entered) to prove this fact.
>
> So the last rule is modified,
>
> "If there is no clear winning entry, the winner will be the entrant
> who can say METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST ten times in the shortest
> interval of
> time."
>
> ...no longer is necessary;
>
> and replaced by:
>
> If no one figures out a qualifying winning entry otherwise, the
> winning entry will be considered the cleverist rearrangement of all
> letters of a meteorite name with none left over and none additional,
> into a word or a phrase.  Any language is permissable if any
> listmember can speak it fluidly, even if the entrant can't.
>
> This is how Galileo first communicated his discovery of Saturn with
> its rings (which he thought were three zones of light).  He used
> Latin.  There are listmembers with acceptable fluidity in Latin, so
> that's an option, too.
>
> The contest is over on Sunday night 11:59 PM (23:50) PDT (Los Angeles
> time), 23 October 2011
> Kindest wishes
> Doug
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: MexicoDoug 
> To: Meteorite-list 
> Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:13 am
> Subject: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> "2011" Meteorite Challenge
>
> For all those who would like to try their hand at hunting for
> meteorites but can't get out into the field, you're invited to try a
> virtual meteorite hunt in the strewn field of all meteorite names.
The
> prize is a token chip off Vesta - Tatahouine, of course, that
beautiful
> witnessed fall which is truly unique among meteorites and the rarest
of
> all (more on this later, but now for the hunt...), not expecting it to
> be more than a gram; though it will be either sent to the winner or
> some other friend or budding collector as directed by the champ.  Plus
> the champ receives a conjectured priceless signed certificate naming
> you the champion:
>
> "METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST"
>
> An anagram is simply a rearrangement of the letters of one word to
form
> another word.  So, the idea is to hunt for a meteorite and its anagram
> pairing.  For example, with numbers, today is: 10/21 (or 21/10 as you
> please).  Rearranging the numbers we get 2011 in the spirit of
Galileo,
> who was a very accomplished anagrammist.
>
> I haven't thought of a meteorite name that is a perfect anagram, nor
> have I tried ... but, here's an idea:
>
> Allende / Yelland
>
> If only it were Eelland they would be a perfect meteorite anagram
> pairing.  In Spanish, Y and E are interchangeable in a certain
instance
> ;-)
>
> The objective of the contest is simp

Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

2011-10-21 Thread MexicoDoug


Jeff asked:

"What is the only meteorite name to use all the vowels, including y
(a-e-i-o-u-y), where each vowel is used only once?"

May I partcipate in the bonus question (and what's the prize?)

My entry is (valid entry under the honor system):

Sierra County

Kindest wishes
Doug






-Original Message-
From: Jeff Grossman 
To: meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 11:46 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Bonus questions:

What is the only meteorite name to use all the vowels, including y
(a-e-i-o-u-y), where each vowel is used only once?

There are 8 meteorite names (that I can find) for which all of the
letters in the name occur in alphabetical order.  The longest has 6
letters.  What is it?

What are the three meteorite names that are palindromes.

Jeff

On 10/21/2011 11:20 AM, MexicoDoug wrote:

Dear List Anagrammatists,

There are perfect anagram meteorite pairings out there!  Some real
good ones!

Though a perfect anagram where the letters of one are rearranged
exactly into the letters of another withough leaving out any letters
on either, is not necessarily a winner according to the rules, since
imperfect anagram pairings are allowed too, though the perfect 

anagram

likely will score higher and win anyway!

One very kind list member who is quite expert in anagrams has sent me
an informational email  (but kindly respected the honor system rule
and not entered) to prove this fact.

So the last rule is modified,

"If there is no clear winning entry, the winner will be the entrant
who can say METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST ten times in the shortest
interval of
time."

...no longer is necessary;

and replaced by:

If no one figures out a qualifying winning entry otherwise, the
winning entry will be considered the cleverist rearrangement of all
letters of a meteorite name with none left over and none additional,
into a word or a phrase.  Any language is permissable if any
listmember can speak it fluidly, even if the entrant can't.

This is how Galileo first communicated his discovery of Saturn with
its rings (which he thought were three zones of light).  He used
Latin.  There are listmembers with acceptable fluidity in Latin, so
that's an option, too.

The contest is over on Sunday night 11:59 PM (23:50) PDT (Los Angeles
time), 23 October 2011
Kindest wishes
Doug


-Original Message-
From: MexicoDoug 
To: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:13 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge


Dear List:

"2011" Meteorite Challenge

For all those who would like to try their hand at hunting for
meteorites but can't get out into the field, you're invited to try a
virtual meteorite hunt in the strewn field of all meteorite names.  

The
prize is a token chip off Vesta - Tatahouine, of course, that 

beautiful
witnessed fall which is truly unique among meteorites and the rarest 

of

all (more on this later, but now for the hunt...), not expecting it to
be more than a gram; though it will be either sent to the winner or
some other friend or budding collector as directed by the champ.  Plus
the champ receives a conjectured priceless signed certificate naming
you the champion:

"METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST"

An anagram is simply a rearrangement of the letters of one word to 

form

another word.  So, the idea is to hunt for a meteorite and its anagram
pairing.  For example, with numbers, today is: 10/21 (or 21/10 as you
please).  Rearranging the numbers we get 2011 in the spirit of 

Galileo,

who was a very accomplished anagrammist.

I haven't thought of a meteorite name that is a perfect anagram, nor
have I tried ... but, here's an idea:

Allende / Yelland

If only it were Eelland they would be a perfect meteorite anagram
pairing.  In Spanish, Y and E are interchangeable in a certain 

instance

;-)

The objective of the contest is simple - get the biggest anagram you
can find.  Finding one meteorite name in mixed up inside another is 

ok,

even though all the letters of only one are paired to the other.  Rule
of common sense, but in case of difficulty with that:

For a satisfactory effort, here are a few rules:

HONOR SYSTEM - NO USE OF ANAGRAM COMPUTER PROGRAMS AND DOWNLOADING 

DATA

FOR THAT PURPOSE THOUGH A SPREADSHEET IS FINE.  I don't know if any
cheat programs exist, but I imagine they do.

(1)  Minimum of 4 letters
(2) Numbers are not included, but their letters can be used.  For
example ABCDE ### can be used as simply ABCDE.
(3) Reuse of complete words or components of compound words do not
count.  For example, Northeast Africa and Northwest Africa have no
value, nor would "meteor" and "meteorite" if they were valid, have any
value.
(4) The value of the meteorite anagram is simply the number of reused
letters unless it is a perfect anagram (see (6).
(5) Partial anagrams can be used

Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

2011-10-21 Thread Sergey Vasiliev
Hi Jeff,

I know the answer for the first question. But I guess that it is not a right
thing
to publish it because I used my computer to find it out ;-)

Good questions!

Now I will play a bit more to find the other answers.
First I will need to translate for my self what palindrome is ;-)

Have a fun!
Sergey


-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]On Behalf Of Jeff
Grossman
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:46 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Bonus questions:

What is the only meteorite name to use all the vowels, including y
(a-e-i-o-u-y), where each vowel is used only once?

There are 8 meteorite names (that I can find) for which all of the
letters in the name occur in alphabetical order.  The longest has 6
letters.  What is it?

What are the three meteorite names that are palindromes.

Jeff

On 10/21/2011 11:20 AM, MexicoDoug wrote:
> Dear List Anagrammatists,
>
> There are perfect anagram meteorite pairings out there!  Some real
> good ones!
>
> Though a perfect anagram where the letters of one are rearranged
> exactly into the letters of another withough leaving out any letters
> on either, is not necessarily a winner according to the rules, since
> imperfect anagram pairings are allowed too, though the perfect anagram
> likely will score higher and win anyway!
>
> One very kind list member who is quite expert in anagrams has sent me
> an informational email  (but kindly respected the honor system rule
> and not entered) to prove this fact.
>
> So the last rule is modified,
>
> "If there is no clear winning entry, the winner will be the entrant
> who can say METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST ten times in the shortest
> interval of
> time."
>
> ...no longer is necessary;
>
> and replaced by:
>
> If no one figures out a qualifying winning entry otherwise, the
> winning entry will be considered the cleverist rearrangement of all
> letters of a meteorite name with none left over and none additional,
> into a word or a phrase.  Any language is permissable if any
> listmember can speak it fluidly, even if the entrant can't.
>
> This is how Galileo first communicated his discovery of Saturn with
> its rings (which he thought were three zones of light).  He used
> Latin.  There are listmembers with acceptable fluidity in Latin, so
> that's an option, too.
>
> The contest is over on Sunday night 11:59 PM (23:50) PDT (Los Angeles
> time), 23 October 2011
> Kindest wishes
> Doug
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: MexicoDoug 
> To: Meteorite-list 
> Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:13 am
> Subject: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> "2011" Meteorite Challenge
>
> For all those who would like to try their hand at hunting for
> meteorites but can't get out into the field, you're invited to try a
> virtual meteorite hunt in the strewn field of all meteorite names.  The
> prize is a token chip off Vesta - Tatahouine, of course, that beautiful
> witnessed fall which is truly unique among meteorites and the rarest of
> all (more on this later, but now for the hunt...), not expecting it to
> be more than a gram; though it will be either sent to the winner or
> some other friend or budding collector as directed by the champ.  Plus
> the champ receives a conjectured priceless signed certificate naming
> you the champion:
>
> "METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST"
>
> An anagram is simply a rearrangement of the letters of one word to form
> another word.  So, the idea is to hunt for a meteorite and its anagram
> pairing.  For example, with numbers, today is: 10/21 (or 21/10 as you
> please).  Rearranging the numbers we get 2011 in the spirit of Galileo,
> who was a very accomplished anagrammist.
>
> I haven't thought of a meteorite name that is a perfect anagram, nor
> have I tried ... but, here's an idea:
>
> Allende / Yelland
>
> If only it were Eelland they would be a perfect meteorite anagram
> pairing.  In Spanish, Y and E are interchangeable in a certain instance
> ;-)
>
> The objective of the contest is simple - get the biggest anagram you
> can find.  Finding one meteorite name in mixed up inside another is ok,
> even though all the letters of only one are paired to the other.  Rule
> of common sense, but in case of difficulty with that:
>
> For a satisfactory effort, here are a few rules:
>
> HONOR SYSTEM - NO USE OF ANAGRAM COMPUTER PROGRAMS AND DOWNLOADING DATA
> FOR THAT PURPOSE THOUGH A SPREADSHEET IS FINE.  I don't know if any
> cheat programs 

Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

2011-10-21 Thread MexicoDoug
Thanks Mike fr the entry, I don't mind if you post to the list or send 
in private, up to you guys ---


If anyone wants to kick in another prize please do!

Note:  Cali (2007, Fall, Colombia) = Calivo (1916, Fall, Phillipines) 
doesn't work according to the rules I think and in any case would come 
under the lame rule, and I'd need to check the Hindi meaning to score  
Chandakapur ==> Chandpur which might score very low due to compound 
elements in the bnative language; the whole idea is to deactivate 
Google and canned software for an old-fashioned contest, now that Peter 
has put me on cloud 9 with his decision to part with an impossible 
world class specimen.


Kindest wishes
Doug




-Original Message-
From: Michael Gilmer 
To: MexicoDoug 
Cc: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Hi Doug and List,

Interesting challenge.  And not as easy as it first seemed.  Here are
a few I came up with.  These are not perfect anagrams, but use some or
most of the letters  -

Albareto (1766, Fall, Italy) = Alberta (1949, Fall, Congo)

Al Rais (1957, Fall, Saudi Arabia) = Alais (1806, Fall, France)

Ban Rong Du (1993, Fall, Thailand) = Bandong (1871, Fall, Indonesia)

Bhola (1940, Fall, Bangladesh) = Bholghati (1905, Fall, India)

Cali (2007, Fall, Colombia) = Calivo (1916, Fall, Phillipines)

Chandakapur (1838, Fall, India) = Chandpur (1885, Fall, India)

Ok, it's obvious from my selection that I was going through the falls
in the Met Bulletin, in alphabetical order, and picking the low
hanging fruit.  But even that gave me a headache.  LOL

I'll try some more later.  The Indian falls are pretty easy since the
names share many letters.

Best regards,

MikeG

--
-

Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer)

Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my
News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516
Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
-



On 10/21/11, MexicoDoug  wrote:

Dear List Anagrammatists,

There are perfect anagram meteorite pairings out there!  Some real 

good

ones!

Though a perfect anagram where the letters of one are rearranged
exactly into the letters of another withough leaving out any letters 

on

either, is not necessarily a winner according to the rules, since
imperfect anagram pairings are allowed too, though the perfect anagram
likely will score higher and win anyway!

One very kind list member who is quite expert in anagrams has sent me
an informational email  (but kindly respected the honor system rule 

and

not entered) to prove this fact.

So the last rule is modified,

"If there is no clear winning entry, the winner will be the entrant 

who

can say METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST ten times in the shortest interval of
time."

...no longer is necessary;

and replaced by:

If no one figures out a qualifying winning entry otherwise, the 

winning

entry will be considered the cleverist rearrangement of all letters of
a meteorite name with none left over and none additional, into a word
or a phrase.  Any language is permissable if any listmember can speak
it fluidly, even if the entrant can't.

This is how Galileo first communicated his discovery of Saturn with 

its

rings (which he thought were three zones of light).  He used Latin.
There are listmembers with acceptable fluidity in Latin, so that's an
option, too.

The contest is over on Sunday night 11:59 PM (23:50) PDT (Los Angeles
time), 23 October 2011
Kindest wishes
Doug


-Original Message-
From: MexicoDoug 
To: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:13 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge


Dear List:

"2011" Meteorite Challenge

For all those who would like to try their hand at hunting for
meteorites but can't get out into the field, you're invited to try a
virtual meteorite hunt in the strewn field of all meteorite names.  

The
prize is a token chip off Vesta - Tatahouine, of course, that 

beautiful
witnessed fall which is truly unique among meteorites and the rarest 

of

all (more on this later, but now for the hunt...), not expecting it to
be more than a gram; though it will be either sent to the winner or
some other friend or budding collector as directed by the champ.  Plus
the champ receives a conjectured priceless signed certificate naming
you the champion:

 "METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST"

An anagram is simply a rearrangement of the letters of one word to 

form

another word.  So, the idea is to hunt for a meteorite and its anagram
pairing.  For example, with numbers, today is: 10/21 (or 21/10 as you
please).  Rearranging the numbers we get 2011 in the 

Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

2011-10-21 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi Doug and List,

Interesting challenge.  And not as easy as it first seemed.  Here are
a few I came up with.  These are not perfect anagrams, but use some or
most of the letters  -

Albareto (1766, Fall, Italy) = Alberta (1949, Fall, Congo)

Al Rais (1957, Fall, Saudi Arabia) = Alais (1806, Fall, France)

Ban Rong Du (1993, Fall, Thailand) = Bandong (1871, Fall, Indonesia)

Bhola (1940, Fall, Bangladesh) = Bholghati (1905, Fall, India)

Cali (2007, Fall, Colombia) = Calivo (1916, Fall, Phillipines)

Chandakapur (1838, Fall, India) = Chandpur (1885, Fall, India)

Ok, it's obvious from my selection that I was going through the falls
in the Met Bulletin, in alphabetical order, and picking the low
hanging fruit.  But even that gave me a headache.  LOL

I'll try some more later.  The Indian falls are pretty easy since the
names share many letters.

Best regards,

MikeG

-- 
-
Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer)

Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my
News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516
Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
-


On 10/21/11, MexicoDoug  wrote:
> Dear List Anagrammatists,
>
> There are perfect anagram meteorite pairings out there!  Some real good
> ones!
>
> Though a perfect anagram where the letters of one are rearranged
> exactly into the letters of another withough leaving out any letters on
> either, is not necessarily a winner according to the rules, since
> imperfect anagram pairings are allowed too, though the perfect anagram
> likely will score higher and win anyway!
>
> One very kind list member who is quite expert in anagrams has sent me
> an informational email  (but kindly respected the honor system rule and
> not entered) to prove this fact.
>
> So the last rule is modified,
>
> "If there is no clear winning entry, the winner will be the entrant who
> can say METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST ten times in the shortest interval of
> time."
>
> ...no longer is necessary;
>
> and replaced by:
>
> If no one figures out a qualifying winning entry otherwise, the winning
> entry will be considered the cleverist rearrangement of all letters of
> a meteorite name with none left over and none additional, into a word
> or a phrase.  Any language is permissable if any listmember can speak
> it fluidly, even if the entrant can't.
>
> This is how Galileo first communicated his discovery of Saturn with its
> rings (which he thought were three zones of light).  He used Latin.
> There are listmembers with acceptable fluidity in Latin, so that's an
> option, too.
>
> The contest is over on Sunday night 11:59 PM (23:50) PDT (Los Angeles
> time), 23 October 2011
> Kindest wishes
> Doug
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: MexicoDoug 
> To: Meteorite-list 
> Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:13 am
> Subject: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> "2011" Meteorite Challenge
>
> For all those who would like to try their hand at hunting for
> meteorites but can't get out into the field, you're invited to try a
> virtual meteorite hunt in the strewn field of all meteorite names.  The
> prize is a token chip off Vesta - Tatahouine, of course, that beautiful
> witnessed fall which is truly unique among meteorites and the rarest of
> all (more on this later, but now for the hunt...), not expecting it to
> be more than a gram; though it will be either sent to the winner or
> some other friend or budding collector as directed by the champ.  Plus
> the champ receives a conjectured priceless signed certificate naming
> you the champion:
>
>  "METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST"
>
> An anagram is simply a rearrangement of the letters of one word to form
> another word.  So, the idea is to hunt for a meteorite and its anagram
> pairing.  For example, with numbers, today is: 10/21 (or 21/10 as you
> please).  Rearranging the numbers we get 2011 in the spirit of Galileo,
> who was a very accomplished anagrammist.
>
> I haven't thought of a meteorite name that is a perfect anagram, nor
> have I tried ... but, here's an idea:
>
> Allende / Yelland
>
> If only it were Eelland they would be a perfect meteorite anagram
> pairing.  In Spanish, Y and E are interchangeable in a certain instance
> ;-)
>
> The objective of the contest is simple - get the biggest anagram you
> can find.  Finding one meteorite name in mixed up inside another is ok,
> even though all the letters of only one are paired to the othe

Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

2011-10-21 Thread Jeff Grossman

Bonus questions:

What is the only meteorite name to use all the vowels, including y 
(a-e-i-o-u-y), where each vowel is used only once?


There are 8 meteorite names (that I can find) for which all of the 
letters in the name occur in alphabetical order.  The longest has 6 
letters.  What is it?


What are the three meteorite names that are palindromes.

Jeff

On 10/21/2011 11:20 AM, MexicoDoug wrote:

Dear List Anagrammatists,

There are perfect anagram meteorite pairings out there!  Some real 
good ones!


Though a perfect anagram where the letters of one are rearranged 
exactly into the letters of another withough leaving out any letters 
on either, is not necessarily a winner according to the rules, since 
imperfect anagram pairings are allowed too, though the perfect anagram 
likely will score higher and win anyway!


One very kind list member who is quite expert in anagrams has sent me 
an informational email  (but kindly respected the honor system rule 
and not entered) to prove this fact.


So the last rule is modified,

"If there is no clear winning entry, the winner will be the entrant 
who can say METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST ten times in the shortest 
interval of

time."

...no longer is necessary;

and replaced by:

If no one figures out a qualifying winning entry otherwise, the 
winning entry will be considered the cleverist rearrangement of all 
letters of a meteorite name with none left over and none additional, 
into a word or a phrase.  Any language is permissable if any 
listmember can speak it fluidly, even if the entrant can't.


This is how Galileo first communicated his discovery of Saturn with 
its rings (which he thought were three zones of light).  He used 
Latin.  There are listmembers with acceptable fluidity in Latin, so 
that's an option, too.


The contest is over on Sunday night 11:59 PM (23:50) PDT (Los Angeles 
time), 23 October 2011

Kindest wishes
Doug


-Original Message-
From: MexicoDoug 
To: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:13 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge


Dear List:

"2011" Meteorite Challenge

For all those who would like to try their hand at hunting for
meteorites but can't get out into the field, you're invited to try a
virtual meteorite hunt in the strewn field of all meteorite names.  The
prize is a token chip off Vesta - Tatahouine, of course, that beautiful
witnessed fall which is truly unique among meteorites and the rarest of
all (more on this later, but now for the hunt...), not expecting it to
be more than a gram; though it will be either sent to the winner or
some other friend or budding collector as directed by the champ.  Plus
the champ receives a conjectured priceless signed certificate naming
you the champion:

"METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST"

An anagram is simply a rearrangement of the letters of one word to form
another word.  So, the idea is to hunt for a meteorite and its anagram
pairing.  For example, with numbers, today is: 10/21 (or 21/10 as you
please).  Rearranging the numbers we get 2011 in the spirit of Galileo,
who was a very accomplished anagrammist.

I haven't thought of a meteorite name that is a perfect anagram, nor
have I tried ... but, here's an idea:

Allende / Yelland

If only it were Eelland they would be a perfect meteorite anagram
pairing.  In Spanish, Y and E are interchangeable in a certain instance
;-)

The objective of the contest is simple - get the biggest anagram you
can find.  Finding one meteorite name in mixed up inside another is ok,
even though all the letters of only one are paired to the other.  Rule
of common sense, but in case of difficulty with that:

For a satisfactory effort, here are a few rules:

HONOR SYSTEM - NO USE OF ANAGRAM COMPUTER PROGRAMS AND DOWNLOADING DATA
FOR THAT PURPOSE THOUGH A SPREADSHEET IS FINE.  I don't know if any
cheat programs exist, but I imagine they do.

(1)  Minimum of 4 letters
(2) Numbers are not included, but their letters can be used.  For
example ABCDE ### can be used as simply ABCDE.
(3) Reuse of complete words or components of compound words do not
count.  For example, Northeast Africa and Northwest Africa have no
value, nor would "meteor" and "meteorite" if they were valid, have any
value.
(4) The value of the meteorite anagram is simply the number of reused
letters unless it is a perfect anagram (see (6).
(5) Partial anagrams can be used where only a subset of the letters in
one meteorite's name is used to form another complete meteorite name.
For example, Boaz (NM) is a partial from Bou Azarif (Morocco).  The
score would be the same for Boaz and Zaborzika (Ukraine).
(6) If all letters are used, the score is tripled.  For example, the
value of (5) above is only 4.  But, if there were a meteorite Zoab to
pair with Boaz, the value would be 12.
(7) The official dictionary is the Met Soc Online database, 

[meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

2011-10-21 Thread MexicoDoug

Dear List Anagrammatists,

There are perfect anagram meteorite pairings out there!  Some real good 
ones!


Though a perfect anagram where the letters of one are rearranged 
exactly into the letters of another withough leaving out any letters on 
either, is not necessarily a winner according to the rules, since 
imperfect anagram pairings are allowed too, though the perfect anagram 
likely will score higher and win anyway!


One very kind list member who is quite expert in anagrams has sent me 
an informational email  (but kindly respected the honor system rule and 
not entered) to prove this fact.


So the last rule is modified,

"If there is no clear winning entry, the winner will be the entrant who 
can say METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST ten times in the shortest interval of

time."

...no longer is necessary;

and replaced by:

If no one figures out a qualifying winning entry otherwise, the winning 
entry will be considered the cleverist rearrangement of all letters of 
a meteorite name with none left over and none additional, into a word 
or a phrase.  Any language is permissable if any listmember can speak 
it fluidly, even if the entrant can't.


This is how Galileo first communicated his discovery of Saturn with its 
rings (which he thought were three zones of light).  He used Latin.  
There are listmembers with acceptable fluidity in Latin, so that's an 
option, too.


The contest is over on Sunday night 11:59 PM (23:50) PDT (Los Angeles 
time), 23 October 2011

Kindest wishes
Doug


-Original Message-
From: MexicoDoug 
To: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:13 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge


Dear List:

"2011" Meteorite Challenge

For all those who would like to try their hand at hunting for
meteorites but can't get out into the field, you're invited to try a
virtual meteorite hunt in the strewn field of all meteorite names.  The
prize is a token chip off Vesta - Tatahouine, of course, that beautiful
witnessed fall which is truly unique among meteorites and the rarest of
all (more on this later, but now for the hunt...), not expecting it to
be more than a gram; though it will be either sent to the winner or
some other friend or budding collector as directed by the champ.  Plus
the champ receives a conjectured priceless signed certificate naming
you the champion:

"METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST"

An anagram is simply a rearrangement of the letters of one word to form
another word.  So, the idea is to hunt for a meteorite and its anagram
pairing.  For example, with numbers, today is: 10/21 (or 21/10 as you
please).  Rearranging the numbers we get 2011 in the spirit of Galileo,
who was a very accomplished anagrammist.

I haven't thought of a meteorite name that is a perfect anagram, nor
have I tried ... but, here's an idea:

Allende / Yelland

If only it were Eelland they would be a perfect meteorite anagram
pairing.  In Spanish, Y and E are interchangeable in a certain instance
;-)

The objective of the contest is simple - get the biggest anagram you
can find.  Finding one meteorite name in mixed up inside another is ok,
even though all the letters of only one are paired to the other.  Rule
of common sense, but in case of difficulty with that:

For a satisfactory effort, here are a few rules:

HONOR SYSTEM - NO USE OF ANAGRAM COMPUTER PROGRAMS AND DOWNLOADING DATA
FOR THAT PURPOSE THOUGH A SPREADSHEET IS FINE.  I don't know if any
cheat programs exist, but I imagine they do.

(1)  Minimum of 4 letters
(2) Numbers are not included, but their letters can be used.  For
example ABCDE ### can be used as simply ABCDE.
(3) Reuse of complete words or components of compound words do not
count.  For example, Northeast Africa and Northwest Africa have no
value, nor would "meteor" and "meteorite" if they were valid, have any
value.
(4) The value of the meteorite anagram is simply the number of reused
letters unless it is a perfect anagram (see (6).
(5) Partial anagrams can be used where only a subset of the letters in
one meteorite's name is used to form another complete meteorite name.
For example, Boaz (NM) is a partial from Bou Azarif (Morocco).  The
score would be the same for Boaz and Zaborzika (Ukraine).
(6) If all letters are used, the score is tripled.  For example, the
value of (5) above is only 4.  But, if there were a meteorite Zoab to
pair with Boaz, the value would be 12.
(7) The official dictionary is the Met Soc Online database, only
official meteorites are permitted.
(8)"Dry Lake", "Mountain", geographical words common to more than one
distinct locality may be dropped or used at the option of the
anagrammatist.  But using entire words or compound word components will
not increase value.
(9) Lame examples not contemplated by the rules may be disqualified at
the sole opinion of the sponsor of this (me).
(10) In

[meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge

2011-10-21 Thread MexicoDoug

Dear List:

"2011" Meteorite Challenge

For all those who would like to try their hand at hunting for 
meteorites but can't get out into the field, you're invited to try a 
virtual meteorite hunt in the strewn field of all meteorite names.  The 
prize is a token chip off Vesta - Tatahouine, of course, that beautiful 
witnessed fall which is truly unique among meteorites and the rarest of 
all (more on this later, but now for the hunt...), not expecting it to 
be more than a gram; though it will be either sent to the winner or 
some other friend or budding collector as directed by the champ.  Plus 
the champ receives a conjectured priceless signed certificate naming 
you the champion:


"METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST"

An anagram is simply a rearrangement of the letters of one word to form 
another word.  So, the idea is to hunt for a meteorite and its anagram 
pairing.  For example, with numbers, today is: 10/21 (or 21/10 as you 
please).  Rearranging the numbers we get 2011 in the spirit of Galileo, 
who was a very accomplished anagrammist.


I haven't thought of a meteorite name that is a perfect anagram, nor 
have I tried ... but, here's an idea:


Allende / Yelland

If only it were Eelland they would be a perfect meteorite anagram 
pairing.  In Spanish, Y and E are interchangeable in a certain instance 
;-)


The objective of the contest is simple - get the biggest anagram you 
can find.  Finding one meteorite name in mixed up inside another is ok, 
even though all the letters of only one are paired to the other.  Rule 
of common sense, but in case of difficulty with that:


For a satisfactory effort, here are a few rules:

HONOR SYSTEM - NO USE OF ANAGRAM COMPUTER PROGRAMS AND DOWNLOADING DATA 
FOR THAT PURPOSE THOUGH A SPREADSHEET IS FINE.  I don't know if any 
cheat programs exist, but I imagine they do.


(1)  Minimum of 4 letters
(2) Numbers are not included, but their letters can be used.  For 
example ABCDE ### can be used as simply ABCDE.
(3) Reuse of complete words or components of compound words do not 
count.  For example, Northeast Africa and Northwest Africa have no 
value, nor would "meteor" and "meteorite" if they were valid, have any 
value.
(4) The value of the meteorite anagram is simply the number of reused 
letters unless it is a perfect anagram (see (6).
(5) Partial anagrams can be used where only a subset of the letters in 
one meteorite's name is used to form another complete meteorite name.  
For example, Boaz (NM) is a partial from Bou Azarif (Morocco).  The 
score would be the same for Boaz and Zaborzika (Ukraine).
(6) If all letters are used, the score is tripled.  For example, the 
value of (5) above is only 4.  But, if there were a meteorite Zoab to 
pair with Boaz, the value would be 12.
(7) The official dictionary is the Met Soc Online database, only 
official meteorites are permitted.
(8)"Dry Lake", "Mountain", geographical words common to more than one 
distinct locality may be dropped or used at the option of the 
anagrammatist.  But using entire words or compound word components will 
not increase value.
(9) Lame examples not contemplated by the rules may be disqualified at 
the sole opinion of the sponsor of this (me).
(10) In the case of a tie value, perfect anagrams trump first, if 
neither is perfect, then the submission that shuffles letters more wins.


If there is no clear winning entry, the winner will be the entrant who 
can say METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST ten times in the shortest interval of 
time.


GOOD LUCK anyone who would like to have fun with this!

Kindest wishes
Doug

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