Re: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more

2003-09-06 Thread Sergey Vasiliev
Hello Mark, Norbert, José, Marcie and Listers,
Thank you ALL for getting right my trying to put some fun to the list! ;-)))
http://sv-meteorites.iol.cz/sv-meteorites/fun.asp
http://sv-meteorites.iol.cz/sv-meteorites/fun1.asp
At any cases I'm waiting  for a new good subjects ;-) - Let'em SMILE!!!
Sergey





 Hi Sergy,
 It's.excellant photography.  :)
 Best Regards on your optical illusion and great sense of humor, Marcie




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2003-09-05 Thread Jose Campos
Hey Sergey!

Tks for the link to the pic! And for the info.
Now THAT is a cube! (...proportional to the size of the meteorite? LOL!)

Norbert,

Tks for you info too. I kind of thought that perhaps the other (visible)
letters of the cube on several photos that I have seen, might stand for
North, South, East and West, but I was not sure. As B for Bottom, I did not
know about that - I have never seen these cubes other than in photos. But
why the N1? Could the 1 (or a vertical line) be there to help place the cube
correctly in order to avoid confusion with a Z? And what about the S1 (or a
vertical line)?

Tom,
BTW on a lighter note, if Top stands for TOM, then perhaps the Bottom
should stand for...JERRY?)
José Campos

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 Hello all,
 Guess the size of the cube and day time ;-)
 http://sv-meteorites.iol.cz/sv-meteorites/fun1.asp
 Regards,
 Sergey


  Hi Jose, and all,
 
  As to the 10x10x10mm cubes you wrote:
 
   Perhaps the T on the cube stands for Top?
   What about the other letters?
 
  Yes, the T stands for Top. The other letters
  are B, E, N, W, S - so guess what? They stand for:
 
  B = Bottom
  E = East
  N = North
  W = West
  S = South
 
  The cube is not only used as a scale (at least
  not in the documentation of Antarctic finds),
  but also to indicate the exact spatial location
  of the meteorite at his find location. Good
  idea, isn't it ;-? However, I've seen more than
  one case (in non-Antarctic use) where the
  photographer obviously wasn't aware of this
  secondary function of the cube.
 
  Hope I helped clearing this issue beyond its
  arithmetic implications. As far as I'm concerned
  I have NO idea why some folks still stick to
  anachronistic measures such as inch, foot,
  or yard. Time to adopt to the metric system,
  isn't it ;-? BTW, these cubes ARE metric, at
  least the original ones used by the ANSMET.
 
  Best,
  Norbert
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more

2003-09-05 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hi List, We do not seem to know for sure what the letters on the cube stand
for, so do they even need to be there?  Can a blank cube work?
Thanks, Tom
Peregrineflier 
The proudest member of the IMCA 6168
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 Hey Sergey!

 Tks for the link to the pic! And for the info.
 Now THAT is a cube! (...proportional to the size of the meteorite? LOL!)

 Norbert,

 Tks for you info too. I kind of thought that perhaps the other (visible)
 letters of the cube on several photos that I have seen, might stand for
 North, South, East and West, but I was not sure. As B for Bottom, I did
not
 know about that - I have never seen these cubes other than in photos. But
 why the N1? Could the 1 (or a vertical line) be there to help place the
cube
 correctly in order to avoid confusion with a Z? And what about the S1 (or
a
 vertical line)?

 Tom,
 BTW on a lighter note, if Top stands for TOM, then perhaps the Bottom
 should stand for...JERRY?)
 José Campos

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 Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:27 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales  more


  Hello all,
  Guess the size of the cube and day time ;-)
  http://sv-meteorites.iol.cz/sv-meteorites/fun1.asp
  Regards,
  Sergey
 
 
   Hi Jose, and all,
  
   As to the 10x10x10mm cubes you wrote:
  
Perhaps the T on the cube stands for Top?
What about the other letters?
  
   Yes, the T stands for Top. The other letters
   are B, E, N, W, S - so guess what? They stand for:
  
   B = Bottom
   E = East
   N = North
   W = West
   S = South
  
   The cube is not only used as a scale (at least
   not in the documentation of Antarctic finds),
   but also to indicate the exact spatial location
   of the meteorite at his find location. Good
   idea, isn't it ;-? However, I've seen more than
   one case (in non-Antarctic use) where the
   photographer obviously wasn't aware of this
   secondary function of the cube.
  
   Hope I helped clearing this issue beyond its
   arithmetic implications. As far as I'm concerned
   I have NO idea why some folks still stick to
   anachronistic measures such as inch, foot,
   or yard. Time to adopt to the metric system,
   isn't it ;-? BTW, these cubes ARE metric, at
   least the original ones used by the ANSMET.
  
   Best,
   Norbert
  
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[meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more

2003-09-05 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
List,  it is clear we all can use this!
http://www.katmarsoftware.com/uconeer.htm

I downloaded this small program and it is the best thing on my comp You
can convert anything!!! Please check it out, it is great...
Thanks, Tom
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2003-09-05 Thread Jose Campos
Hi Tom and List,

I suppose a blank cube works, as long as it's of a known size.
BTW use goggle to search for centimeter cubes - there are a few sites in
the USA offering 1x1x1cm cubes (with no letters), in wood or in plastic,
with diferent colours, to be mainly used as educational tools for kids at
schools: 500 cubes, with  50 cubes per 10 diff. colours, costs US $13.95 -
and each 1x1x1=1cm3 cube weighs 1 gram ( Norbert is right, they ARE METRIC).
Moni  -  Thanks for you info too -  and a nice week-end to you all.
José Campos

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 Hi List, We do not seem to know for sure what the letters on the cube
stand
 for, so do they even need to be there?  Can a blank cube work?
 Thanks, Tom
 Peregrineflier 
 The proudest member of the IMCA 6168
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 From: Jose Campos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:54 PM
 Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales  more


  Hey Sergey!
 
  Tks for the link to the pic! And for the info.
  Now THAT is a cube! (...proportional to the size of the meteorite?
LOL!)
 
  Norbert,
 
  Tks for you info too. I kind of thought that perhaps the other (visible)
  letters of the cube on several photos that I have seen, might stand for
  North, South, East and West, but I was not sure. As B for Bottom, I did
 not
  know about that - I have never seen these cubes other than in photos.
But
  why the N1? Could the 1 (or a vertical line) be there to help place the
 cube
  correctly in order to avoid confusion with a Z? And what about the S1
(or
 a
  vertical line)?
 
  Tom,
  BTW on a lighter note, if Top stands for TOM, then perhaps the Bottom
  should stand for...JERRY?)
  José Campos
 
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  From: Sergey Vasiliev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:27 AM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales  more
 
 
   Hello all,
   Guess the size of the cube and day time ;-)
   http://sv-meteorites.iol.cz/sv-meteorites/fun1.asp
   Regards,
   Sergey
  
  
Hi Jose, and all,
   
As to the 10x10x10mm cubes you wrote:
   
 Perhaps the T on the cube stands for Top?
 What about the other letters?
   
Yes, the T stands for Top. The other letters
are B, E, N, W, S - so guess what? They stand for:
   
B = Bottom
E = East
N = North
W = West
S = South
   
The cube is not only used as a scale (at least
not in the documentation of Antarctic finds),
but also to indicate the exact spatial location
of the meteorite at his find location. Good
idea, isn't it ;-? However, I've seen more than
one case (in non-Antarctic use) where the
photographer obviously wasn't aware of this
secondary function of the cube.
   
Hope I helped clearing this issue beyond its
arithmetic implications. As far as I'm concerned
I have NO idea why some folks still stick to
anachronistic measures such as inch, foot,
or yard. Time to adopt to the metric system,
isn't it ;-? BTW, these cubes ARE metric, at
least the original ones used by the ANSMET.
   
Best,
Norbert
   
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[meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more

2003-09-05 Thread Norbert Classen
Hi Jose, Tom, and all,

Jose asked:

 But why the N1? Could the 1 (or a vertical line) be there to help 
 place the cube correctly in order to avoid confusion with a Z? 
 And what about the S1 (or a vertical line)?

Again, it's rather simple - it's a point of reference for the photos
that are taken in a flat angle (where you don't see the top of the
cube). The point or 1 simply shows where the bottom of the cube is
located. 

For those who are bit slow, today - if you turn the N or the S upside
down it's still an N or an S, and so you need an additional mark to
know it's correct position in 3D space. That's all.

Tom wrote:

 We do not seem to know for sure what the letters on the cube stand
 for, so do they even need to be there? Can a blank cube work?

Of course, a blank cube will do the job, but - believe me - I wasn't
joking about the meaning of the letters: they actually stand for
Top, Bottom, North, South, East, and West. 

Brice asked:

 Okay, but where can I purchase one? Someone on here must have a 
 spare...

As far as I know, Bob Verish had some for sale, but maybe he's out
of the cube business by now? Bob? Some people are in need of a few
metric cubes! Please help these guys, or they will end up inching
their own ;-)

Best,
Norbert

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Re: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more

2003-09-05 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Ok,  But when I am looking to buy a meteorite, and it is sitting next to a
meteorite on someone desk,  why do we need to know the directions? I am just
comparing size? Is there another use for these cubes when direction is
important?

Thanks, Tom
Peregrineflier 
The proudest member of the IMCA 6168

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Subject: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales  more


 Hi Jose, Tom, and all,

 Jose asked:

  But why the N1? Could the 1 (or a vertical line) be there to help
  place the cube correctly in order to avoid confusion with a Z?
  And what about the S1 (or a vertical line)?

 Again, it's rather simple - it's a point of reference for the photos
 that are taken in a flat angle (where you don't see the top of the
 cube). The point or 1 simply shows where the bottom of the cube is
 located.

 For those who are bit slow, today - if you turn the N or the S upside
 down it's still an N or an S, and so you need an additional mark to
 know it's correct position in 3D space. That's all.

 Tom wrote:

  We do not seem to know for sure what the letters on the cube stand
  for, so do they even need to be there? Can a blank cube work?

 Of course, a blank cube will do the job, but - believe me - I wasn't
 joking about the meaning of the letters: they actually stand for
 Top, Bottom, North, South, East, and West.

 Brice asked:

  Okay, but where can I purchase one? Someone on here must have a
  spare...

 As far as I know, Bob Verish had some for sale, but maybe he's out
 of the cube business by now? Bob? Some people are in need of a few
 metric cubes! Please help these guys, or they will end up inching
 their own ;-)

 Best,
 Norbert

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Re: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more

2003-09-05 Thread joseph_town
Let's see. Cubes, quarters, a variety of fingers that look like something out 
of the thansgiving parade, for micro's, various hand poses to compliment 
size. All viable methods...
 Ok,  But when I am looking to buy a meteorite, and it is sitting next to a
 meteorite on someone desk,  why do we need to know the directions? I am just
 comparing size? Is there another use for these cubes when direction is
 important?
 
 Thanks, Tom
 Peregrineflier 
 The proudest member of the IMCA 6168
 
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  Hi Jose, Tom, and all,
 
  Jose asked:
 
   But why the N1? Could the 1 (or a vertical line) be there to help
   place the cube correctly in order to avoid confusion with a Z?
   And what about the S1 (or a vertical line)?
 
  Again, it's rather simple - it's a point of reference for the photos
  that are taken in a flat angle (where you don't see the top of the
  cube). The point or 1 simply shows where the bottom of the cube is
  located.
 

  For those who are bit slow, today - if you turn the N or the S upside
  down it's still an N or an S, and so you need an additional mark to
  know it's correct position in 3D space. That's all.
 
  Tom wrote:
 
   We do not seem to know for sure what the letters on the cube stand
   for, so do they even need to be there? Can a blank cube work?
 
  Of course, a blank cube will do the job, but - believe me - I wasn't
  joking about the meaning of the letters: they actually stand for
  Top, Bottom, North, South, East, and West.
 
  Brice asked:
 
   Okay, but where can I purchase one? Someone on here must have a
   spare...
 
  As far as I know, Bob Verish had some for sale, but maybe he's out
  of the cube business by now? Bob? Some people are in need of a few
  metric cubes! Please help these guys, or they will end up inching
  their own ;-)
 
  Best,
  Norbert
 
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RE: [meteorite-list] AW: meteorite photography scales more

2003-09-05 Thread peter scherff
Hi,

If any one is looking for a meteorite photography scale I have made
some and can sell them for $5.00 each. I you want one please let me know. 

Thanks,

Peter Scherff

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Okay, but where can I purchase one?  Someone on here must have a spare...

Thanks,
Brice

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 Hi Jose, and all,
 
 As to the 10x10x10mm cubes you wrote:
  
  Perhaps the T on the cube stands for Top? 
  What about the other letters?
  
 Yes, the T stands for Top. The other letters
 are B, E, N, W, S - so guess what? They stand for:
 
 B = Bottom
 E = East
 N = North
 W = West
 S = South
 
 The cube is not only used as a scale (at least
 not in the documentation of Antarctic finds),
 but also to indicate the exact spatial location
 of the meteorite at his find location. Good
 idea, isn't it ;-? However, I've seen more than
 one case (in non-Antarctic use) where the 
 photographer obviously wasn't aware of this
 secondary function of the cube.
 
 Hope I helped clearing this issue beyond its
 arithmetic implications. As far as I'm concerned
 I have NO idea why some folks still stick to
 anachronistic measures such as inch, foot,
 or yard. Time to adopt to the metric system,
 isn't it ;-? BTW, these cubes ARE metric, at 
 least the original ones used by the ANSMET. 
 
 Best,
 Norbert 
 
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