Re: [meteorite-list] April 6, 2008 witnessed fall

2008-04-09 Thread Armando Afonso

Not for me, Doug.
I don´t need translations, since my language is latin, too.
That thing of the allien language was a joke towards the high 
"intelectuality" of many of the "specialists".:-)

Armando Afonso (no L, please)

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Hi Listees,

No one mentioned this?

Apparently the meteorite that was reported and fell Sunday night in 
Argentina is already confirmed by several pieces.  This earlier article 
shows  the location, and here is a translation of the "foreign tongue" for 
Alfonso:


http://www.clarin.com/diario/2008/04/08/sociedad/s-01646156.htm

"Nearby [Entre Rios] is the locality of Berduc, where the agricultural 
engineer Gabriela Preto told of the recovery of various pieces of black 
rocks, as if burned, that when scratched expose a metallic and silvered 
interior.  They can't be cut, nor scratched with the finger.  They will be 
analyzed by Mariano Petter, the director of the Enterriana Association of 
Astronomy, who is investigating this in the area."


Best wishes and Great Health,
Doug

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Re: [meteorite-list] April 6, 2008 witnessed fall-clarification

2008-04-09 Thread Eduardo.
It did not hit a well, it was found in a hole. Just wrong translation
Eduardo

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> Addendum, Hi Listees,
> 
> I got this question privately.  As strictly a news messenger, here is 
> what I think:
> 
> "It hit a well?  Wow!"
> 
> Actually, the word well is probably best translated as simply a hole 
> (which is well, a natural well).  I don't think the human constructed 
> variety, though the other fragment(s) on the roof seems to indicate 
> heavenly target practice.  Probably, the 700 g specimen made a small 
> tunnel in the peat or wet soil of the nursury grounds "impact hole" of 
> the "plop in the mud" type.  Seems the 700 gram piece tunneled a 
> (fore)arm's length into the ground - so probably the hole was made by 
> the rock.  But this is tentative news.  It could be all wet, and the 
> suspected meteorite probably was, too.
> 
> Best wishes and Great Health,
> Doug
> 
> 
> ==
> OK, but don't you wish you were the 29-year old "specialist" (this is 
> the word used to describe him in the article), coordinator of the 
> Astronomical Association there? Sorry for my terrible English: 
>  
> http://www.wikio.es/ciencia/astronomia?wfid=52312711 
>  
> Armed with a magnet, some flashlights, sample tubes, a GPS locator, a 
> computer, laptop with the land's topography and celestial objects, four
> members of the Astronomy Association went out without much hope to comb
> the ground. "It's a version much less Hollywoodesque of Agent Mulder of
> the X-Files, he laughed. 
>  
> The celestial object that turned night into day last Sunday already has
> a name: meteorite. "We're speaking of a meteoritethe size of a fist, 
> 700 grams, in a well of a nursury in Colonia Berduc., in the Department
> of Colon, together with another five smaller pieces of three cm that 
> were on the roof and in the shade" The confirmation, in a completely 
> informational report came with the excited voice of Mariano Andres 
> Peter on the other end of the phone. 
>  
> Peter is the coordinator of the Entrerriana Association of Astronomy, 
> the entity responsible for the searching and finding of a heavenly body
> that fell Sunday night in the Argentine province of Entre Rios. It has 
> to do with a "black burnt stone and very pulverized"., a rock with a 
> very fragile makeup and iron, that reveal it to be a meteorite "for its
> high level of magnetism", explains Peter. As well, the Entrerriana 
> Astronomical Association will study the fragments in the llaboratory to
> provide a final verification. 
>  
> "The fragmentation of the celestial body en pieces, the enormous ground
> to cover, the topography of the swamplands, estuaries, and forests over
> which it fell make it a huge stroke of luck. We could've taken days, 
> weeks, months or years," Peter realizes.In light of this, he considers 
> that the find in less than 24 hours is a stroke of luck. 
>  
> The description, according to this 29-year old expert, explains why the
> incandescent object the size of a car that the locals saw in the sky 
> broke into pieces before arriving on the ground. It is a very fragile 
> material that could've fragmented in hundreds of pieces in different 
> Argentine provinces" he suggests. 
>  
> A judge from the municipality already has found that these meteorites- 
> of some value in the National market- only can be used for 
> investigation and scientific dissemination. So, the helicopters, mass 
> media, and a group of astronomers have already bashed into the the 
> lives of the rural residents of Villa Dominguez, Colon, and San 
> Salvador, frightened by the very odd news. 
>  
> Best wishes and Great Health, 
> Doug 
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
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> Sent: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 12:36 pm 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] April 6, 2008 witnessed fall 
>  
> Not for me, Doug.  
> I don´t need translations, since my language is latin, too.  
> That thing of the allien language was a joke towards the high 
> "intelectuality" of many of the "specialists".:-)  
> Armando Afonso (no L, please)  
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Re: [meteorite-list] April 6, 2008 witnessed fall

2008-04-09 Thread Eduardo.
Hi Doug and list.
Before anyone start packing to fly down to Argentina, be aware that 
there is a new law (from December 2007) and ALL THE NEW METEORITES ARE 
NOW ARGENTINE HERITAGE. So they can not be exported without goverment 
papers.
I was not able to see any stones yet (I'm having a hard week). If I have 
any confirmation I will let you know.
Eduardo

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> Hi Listees,
> 
> No one mentioned this?
> 
> Apparently the meteorite that was reported and fell Sunday night in 
> Argentina is already confirmed by several pieces.  This earlier article
> shows  the location, and here is a translation of the "foreign tongue" 
> for Alfonso:
> 
> http://www.clarin.com/diario/2008/04/08/sociedad/s-01646156.htm
> 
> "Nearby [Entre Rios] is the locality of Berduc, where the agricultural 
> engineer Gabriela Preto told of the recovery of various pieces of black
> rocks, as if burned, that when scratched expose a metallic and silvered
> interior.  They can't be cut, nor scratched with the finger.  They will
> be analyzed by Mariano Petter, the director of the Enterriana 
> Association of Astronomy, who is investigating this in the area."
> 
> Best wishes and Great Health,
> Doug
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] April 6, 2008 witnessed fall-clarification

2008-04-09 Thread mexicodoug

Addendum, Hi Listees,

I got this question privately.  As strictly a news messenger, here is 
what I think:


"It hit a well?  Wow!"

Actually, the word well is probably best translated as simply a hole 
(which is well, a natural well).  I don't think the human constructed 
variety, though the other fragment(s) on the roof seems to indicate 
heavenly target practice.  Probably, the 700 g specimen made a small 
tunnel in the peat or wet soil of the nursury grounds "impact hole" of 
the "plop in the mud" type.  Seems the 700 gram piece tunneled a 
(fore)arm's length into the ground - so probably the hole was made by 
the rock.  But this is tentative news.  It could be all wet, and the 
suspected meteorite probably was, too.


Best wishes and Great Health,
Doug


==
OK, but don't you wish you were the 29-year old "specialist" (this is 
the word used to describe him in the article), coordinator of the 
Astronomical Association there? Sorry for my terrible English: 

 
http://www.wikio.es/ciencia/astronomia?wfid=52312711 
 
Armed with a magnet, some flashlights, sample tubes, a GPS locator, a 
computer, laptop with the land's topography and celestial objects, four 
members of the Astronomy Association went out without much hope to comb 
the ground. "It's a version much less Hollywoodesque of Agent Mulder of 
the X-Files, he laughed. 

 
The celestial object that turned night into day last Sunday already has 
a name: meteorite. "We're speaking of a meteoritethe size of a fist, 
700 grams, in a well of a nursury in Colonia Berduc., in the Department 
of Colon, together with another five smaller pieces of three cm that 
were on the roof and in the shade" The confirmation, in a completely 
informational report came with the excited voice of Mariano Andres 
Peter on the other end of the phone. 

 
Peter is the coordinator of the Entrerriana Association of Astronomy, 
the entity responsible for the searching and finding of a heavenly body 
that fell Sunday night in the Argentine province of Entre Rios. It has 
to do with a "black burnt stone and very pulverized"., a rock with a 
very fragile makeup and iron, that reveal it to be a meteorite "for its 
high level of magnetism", explains Peter. As well, the Entrerriana 
Astronomical Association will study the fragments in the llaboratory to 
provide a final verification. 

 
"The fragmentation of the celestial body en pieces, the enormous ground 
to cover, the topography of the swamplands, estuaries, and forests over 
which it fell make it a huge stroke of luck. We could've taken days, 
weeks, months or years," Peter realizes.In light of this, he considers 
that the find in less than 24 hours is a stroke of luck. 

 
The description, according to this 29-year old expert, explains why the 
incandescent object the size of a car that the locals saw in the sky 
broke into pieces before arriving on the ground. It is a very fragile 
material that could've fragmented in hundreds of pieces in different 
Argentine provinces" he suggests. 

 
A judge from the municipality already has found that these meteorites- 
of some value in the National market- only can be used for 
investigation and scientific dissemination. So, the helicopters, mass 
media, and a group of astronomers have already bashed into the the 
lives of the rural residents of Villa Dominguez, Colon, and San 
Salvador, frightened by the very odd news. 

 
Best wishes and Great Health, 
Doug 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Sent: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 12:36 pm 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] April 6, 2008 witnessed fall 
 
Not for me, Doug.  
I don´t need translations, since my language is latin, too.  
That thing of the allien language was a joke towards the high 
"intelectuality" of many of the "specialists".:-)  

Armando Afonso (no L, please)  
  
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Hi Listees,  
  
No one mentioned this?  
  
Apparently the meteorite that was reported and fell Sunday night in > 
Argentina is already confirmed by several pieces. This earlier article 
> shows the location, and here is a translation of the "foreign tongue" 
for > Alfonso:  

  
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2008/04/08/sociedad/s-01646156.htm  
  
"Nearby [Entre Rios] is the locality of Berduc, where the 
agricultural > engineer Gabriela Preto told of the recovery of various 
pieces of black > rocks, as if burned, that when scratched expose a 
metallic and silvered > interior. They can't be cut, nor scratched with 
the finger. They will be > analyzed by Mariano Petter,

Re: [meteorite-list] April 6, 2008 witnessed fall

2008-04-09 Thread mexicodoug


OK, Armando it's duly noted pt sounded more like Platinum than Portugal 
to me - sorry...


"That thing of the allien language was a joke towards the high 
"intelectuality" of many of the "specialists".:-)"


OK, but don't you wish you were the 29-year old "specialist" (this is 
the word used to describe him in the article), coordinator of the 
Astronomical Association there?  Sorry for my terrible English:


http://www.wikio.es/ciencia/astronomia?wfid=52312711

Armed with a magnet, some flashlights, sample tubes, a GPS locator, a 
computer, laptop with the land's topography and celestial objects, four 
members of the Astronomy Association went out without much hope to comb 
the ground.  "It's a version much less Hollywoodesque of Agent Mulder 
of the X-Files, he laughed.


The celestial object that turned night into day last Sunday already has 
a name: meteorite.  "We're speaking of a meteoritethe size of a fist, 
700 grams, in a well of a nursury in Colonia Berduc., in the Department 
of Colon, together with another five smaller pieces of three cm that 
were on the roof and in the shade"  The confirmation, in a completely 
informational report came with the excited voice of Mariano Andres 
Peter on the other end of the phone.


Peter is the coordinator of the Entrerriana Association of Astronomy, 
the entity responsible for the searching and finding of a heavenly body 
that fell Sunday night in the Argentine province of Entre Rios.  It has 
to do with a "black burnt stone and very pulverized"., a rock with a 
very fragile makeup and iron, that reveal it to be a meteorite "for its 
high level of magnetism", explains Peter.  As well, the Entrerriana 
Astronomical  Association will study the fragments in the llaboratory 
to provide a final verification.


"The fragmentation of the celestial body en pieces, the enormous ground 
to cover, the topography of the swamplands, estuaries, and forests over 
which it fell make it a huge stroke of luck.  We could've taken days, 
weeks, months or years," Peter realizes.In light of this, he considers 
that the find in less than 24 hours is a stroke of luck.


The description, according to this 29-year old expert, explains why the 
incandescent object the size of a car that the locals saw in the sky 
broke into pieces before arriving on the ground.  It is a very fragile 
material that could've fragmented in hundreds of pieces in different 
Argentine provinces" he suggests.


A judge from the municipality already has found that these meteorites- 
of some value in the National market- only can be used for 
investigation and scientific dissemination.  So, the helicopters, mass 
media, and a group of astronomers have already bashed into the the 
lives of the rural residents of Villa Dominguez, Colon, and San 
Salvador, frightened by the very odd news.


Best wishes and Great Health,
Doug
















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Not for me, Doug. 
I don´t need translations, since my language is latin, too. 
That thing of the allien language was a joke towards the high 
"intelectuality" of many of the "specialists".:-) 

Armando Afonso (no L, please) 
 
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To:  
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 6:07 PM 
Subject: [meteorite-list] April 6, 2008 witnessed fall 
 

Hi Listees, 
 
No one mentioned this? 
 
Apparently the meteorite that was reported and fell Sunday night in > 
Argentina is already confirmed by several pieces. This earlier article 
> shows the location, and here is a translation of the "foreign tongue" 
for > Alfonso: 

 
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2008/04/08/sociedad/s-01646156.htm 
 
"Nearby [Entre Rios] is the locality of Berduc, where the 
agricultural > engineer Gabriela Preto told of the recovery of various 
pieces of black > rocks, as if burned, that when scratched expose a 
metallic and silvered > interior. They can't be cut, nor scratched with 
the finger. They will be > analyzed by Mariano Petter, the director of 
the Enterriana Association of > Astronomy, who is investigating this in 
the area." 

 
Best wishes and Great Health, 
Doug 
 
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[meteorite-list] April 6, 2008 witnessed fall

2008-04-09 Thread mexicodoug

Hi Listees,

No one mentioned this?

Apparently the meteorite that was reported and fell Sunday night in 
Argentina is already confirmed by several pieces.  This earlier article 
shows  the location, and here is a translation of the "foreign tongue" 
for Alfonso:


http://www.clarin.com/diario/2008/04/08/sociedad/s-01646156.htm

"Nearby [Entre Rios] is the locality of Berduc, where the agricultural 
engineer Gabriela Preto told of the recovery of various pieces of black 
rocks, as if burned, that when scratched expose a metallic and silvered 
interior.  They can't be cut, nor scratched with the finger.  They will 
be analyzed by Mariano Petter, the director of the Enterriana 
Association of Astronomy, who is investigating this in the area."


Best wishes and Great Health,
Doug

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