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Maria Maria of lunar origin, I must say you have a very rocky resume.:) Glad to have you as a comrade. Regards, Gabbro John PS I need you to talk to my wife about rocks, and their place in our lives. -- Original message from "Maria Haas" : -- > Dear Hunters and Huntresses, Collectors and Collectrexes, > > I have been collecting rocks, minerals and fossils my whole life. I was also > the kid who constantly came home with pockets full of rocks - mostly > fossils. My mother (who loves science) used to throw my smaller ones in the > driveway and my dad would try to pick them up (if he recognized them). > Nature? Nurture? > > My pepper spray and I are not opposed to taking field trips alone and have > gone on quite a few. This year I have also been on field trips with list > members (Atkins, Freeman, and the Park Forest anniversary group). I spent > eight hours last Sunday hiking with list member Larry Atkins looking for > stone Indian artifacts (another one of my collections). David Freeman was > also kind to leave me some incredible Wyoming artifacts when he visited in > June. No, I don't currently have any women friends who would hunt rocks with > me. They think my rock and meteorite collecting is "odd" :) > > At this moment, I have a 153 lb flight-oriented diabase basalt "wrong" in my > living room - a long story but it spawned a meteorite collector some years > ago (me!). > > My meteorite collection is housed in a glass shelving unit that I call "The > Shrine", the inside of my home is lined with rocks, I have buckets and > buckets of rocks in my basement, there are rocks in my Jeep, I have my own > saw, cut and prepare my own stones, and every rock that fits under my > microscope has even though I don't always know what I am looking at. > > I have plenty of the faceted expensive stones and no matter how I am dressed > or where I am going I would not hesitate filling up my purse with > interesting rocks. Girly? Kinda. I even have neighborhood rock "groupies" - > kids who drop by to see what's new in my collection. Only one is a girl but > she drags girlfriends who don't care about rocks to my house sometimes. Last > Halloween I had a bowl of candy and a bowl of rocks for the kids to choose > from. > > For me, learning about and holding a terrestrial or space rock and looking > up at the stars is probably the closest I will ever get to feeling what > "forever" really is and means. > > On a lighter note, if anyone wants to see me and my Zagami vacation in Mars > (Pennsylvania) please visit: > http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/dragonsoup_maria/my_photos > (Yes, that is me faking antennae.) > > Maria :) > Recently divorced, knows how to cook, sew, paint, write, garden, cut and > polish rocks, finish concrete... (not listed in order of preference and this > is not an offer to perform these tasks). > Oh, I also like my beer cold (sorry, different thread). > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Dear Hunters and Huntresses, Collectors and Collectrexes, I have been collecting rocks, minerals and fossils my whole life. I was also the kid who constantly came home with pockets full of rocks - mostly fossils. My mother (who loves science) used to throw my smaller ones in the driveway and my dad would try to pick them up (if he recognized them). Nature? Nurture? My pepper spray and I are not opposed to taking field trips alone and have gone on quite a few. This year I have also been on field trips with list members (Atkins, Freeman, and the Park Forest anniversary group). I spent eight hours last Sunday hiking with list member Larry Atkins looking for stone Indian artifacts (another one of my collections). David Freeman was also kind to leave me some incredible Wyoming artifacts when he visited in June. No, I don't currently have any women friends who would hunt rocks with me. They think my rock and meteorite collecting is "odd" :) At this moment, I have a 153 lb flight-oriented diabase basalt "wrong" in my living room - a long story but it spawned a meteorite collector some years ago (me!). My meteorite collection is housed in a glass shelving unit that I call "The Shrine", the inside of my home is lined with rocks, I have buckets and buckets of rocks in my basement, there are rocks in my Jeep, I have my own saw, cut and prepare my own stones, and every rock that fits under my microscope has even though I don't always know what I am looking at. I have plenty of the faceted expensive stones and no matter how I am dressed or where I am going I would not hesitate filling up my purse with interesting rocks. Girly? Kinda. I even have neighborhood rock "groupies" - kids who drop by to see what's new in my collection. Only one is a girl but she drags girlfriends who don't care about rocks to my house sometimes. Last Halloween I had a bowl of candy and a bowl of rocks for the kids to choose from. For me, learning about and holding a terrestrial or space rock and looking up at the stars is probably the closest I will ever get to feeling what "forever" really is and means. On a lighter note, if anyone wants to see me and my Zagami vacation in Mars (Pennsylvania) please visit: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/dragonsoup_maria/my_photos (Yes, that is me faking antennae.) Maria :) Recently divorced, knows how to cook, sew, paint, write, garden, cut and polish rocks, finish concrete... (not listed in order of preference and this is not an offer to perform these tasks). Oh, I also like my beer cold (sorry, different thread). __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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This is a hillarious thread about meteorites and sex! I though I would sit back and
be entertained, but there is that pesky Y chromosome to cope with while all of you
speak your minds...
Anyway, my juvenile take on it all is that,
1. Guys want to promise gals a ride to the stars, fireworks, etc.
2. Gals just want the forever diamond in the rough urelite, or if you are lucky,
they'll settle for Mr. Haag's big peridot.
>From these two postulates, you can explain the species-
-the "baby hop in my corvette. Don't get the leather dirty and watch out for the
meteorite thrown on the seat!"
-the "check out my rocks, honey (they may be old and rusty and not much to look at
now, but once they fell from heaven amid Zeus's thunderbolts)"
-Look sweetheart, a bessey speck of Mars! (she says: can we go to the beach, and see
the 9.99 X 10^999 bessey speck silicates of the third planet for once.)
Honey, you don't understand, I own Martian real estate ... here, you can touch it.
Really, touch it... it's mine. She says, "My love you are so confused, can you
take a hint what a girl wants!"
-the "My meteorite (or whatever) is bigger than his, a.k.a., bigger is better."
-the My micromount (or whatever) comes in a small box and is managable.
-the "I am king of the natives, they worship me by selling the secret stone, and you
can be my queen of the modern pygmy campesinos if you let me spend thousand$ on more
rocks as I blow their minds with money.
-yes, she says, "I am an artist in the kitchen and he scavenges funny rocks."
-Wow, after all these years I have my new meteorite case. She says, "The dog loves it
because it looks like a fire hydrant my love, not because he is awed by meteorites. I
swear you're gonna have to sponge up Rover's mess as soon as you move it from where
everyone trips."
"But Honey, don't make fun of Rover! I spent months training him to smell organic
meteorites and big bucks on Murchison for practice. The next carbonaceous fall and
Rover will leave all those meteoriteman wannabees heads spinning while he goes
fetching, especially where they can't".
"Right baby," she says, "this is going a bit far, don't you think? The Smith's dog is
happy enough with bones. Does Rover really need meteorites to chew on, I mean doesn't
he get enough iron in the puppy chow?"
You can even make a stab from this on why garbagewomen are just as rare as meteorite
collectrixes, pool cleaner chicas, women boxers. Maybe most of them know something
the guys haven't figured out, by the way, guys are sometimes accused of having higher
specific gravities.
This is just one man's point of view and furthermore deferred 100% to the expertas,
and still personally would be totally humbled to my knees if she even offered to cook
me dinner instead of just shoving her meteorites in my face thinking this is all I
wanted from her. So hopefully things won't change too quickly in my lifetime.
Of course I'd be happy to do the cooking and dishes for Paris Hilton if she invited me
to her isolarted private Rancho Elipse de Dispersión in her private jet, as long as
she let me do (at least some of) the hunting.
Saludos, Doug
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escribe:
I believe you are right: girls are oriented towards girlish things to a
certain extent. I remember being a kid and watching my older brother become
fascinated with dinosaurs. At a very early age he was correctly identifying
pictures of different dinosaurs and pronouncing these wonderfully exotic
names. I was in awe of him and jealous of the attention he was getting from
my parents. When I tried to join in, I was ignored. (Of course, I didn't
know what I was talking about...)
It wasn't until I pursued my love of rocks, minerals and fossils on my own
that I discovered meteorites. I would venture to say that girls/women aren't
exposed to these things and therefore don't know what they're missing! When
I show people my collection (men and women) I occasionally see that gleam in
their eyes ("How cool is that?" "Wow, who would thought?") but then the
flash goes away and they start thinking about what they're going to have for
dinner.
Anita
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Very interesting question and I would leave it to our "girls" to respond.
But there is one (statistical) observation from 32 years of teaching at
a German high school: The girls I have been teaching during the last
32 years were mostly good at languages whereas the bo
RE: [meteorite-list] Are Meteorites For Boys Only?
I believe you are right: girls are oriented towards girlish things to a
certain extent. I remember being a kid and watching my older brother become
fascinated with dinosaurs. At a very early age he was correctly identifying
pictures of different dinosaurs and pronouncing these wonderfully exotic
names. I was in awe of him and jealous of the attention he was getting from
my parents. When I tried to join in, I was ignored. (Of course, I didn't
know what I was talking about...)
It wasn't until I pursued my love of rocks, minerals and fossils on my own
that I discovered meteorites. I would venture to say that girls/women aren't
exposed to these things and therefore don't know what they're missing! When
I show people my collection (men and women) I occasionally see that gleam in
their eyes ("How cool is that?" "Wow, who would thought?") but then the
flash goes away and they start thinking about what they're going to have for
dinner.
Anita
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Very interesting question and I would leave it to our "girls" to respond.
But there is one (statistical) observation from 32 years of teaching at
a German high school: The girls I have been teaching during the last
32 years were mostly good at languages whereas the boys preferred
scientific subjects. Whether the foundation stone for such orientations
is laid in early childhood, I don't know but I will ask both my 36-year-old
daughter and my 29-year-old son plus my son-in-law what they think
about it. Maybe we "automatically" bring up boys orienting them more
toward science while we "inadvertently" direct girls toward "more female"
things (whatever that is) ... I really don't know but would like to know !
Best wishes,
Bernd
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I just finished a pieced quilt for my husband, hemmed some pants, and I make a mean lamb stew. Most useful things can be found in books, including lamb stew recipes, quilting patterns, and meteorite classifications ;-) Tracy Latimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are Meteorites For Boys Only? Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 22:16:31 EDT In a message dated 8/21/2004 8:13:48 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then I guess you'd better have a salad! Then you can come mow my lawn, take out the garbage and fix my car! ;-)) Jeannie > Dear Ladies; > Maybe we should have a reverse poll, how many meteorite gals like to > cook, or for that matter sew? > I am hungry and my pants don't fit! > DAve F. And my house needs painting! I can sew, I can cook, but only when I have nothing more interesting to do. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA #2356, www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Warm Beer?
What a horrible imagination,
but in old fashioned bavarian beer restaurants you could ask for a beer
warmer, which is a hot stick of metal, which is hanging in the beer, to make
it warmer and more digestable for pensioneers.
A bavarian speciality is the so called Weissbier (White Beer), which is
brewed with wheat ("Weizen" -> "Weizbier" -> "Weissbier") instead of barley
and where the yeast is not filtered out. It's top-fermented in contrast to
the normal beers, thus it's much more sparkling, providing a feeling of
freshness.
To drink this warm would be a real challenge, as then, I guess, it would
taste like a dead fish.
Hops, Malt, Yeast, Water - if something else is used for a beer, poor it in
the gutter.
Purity rules!
Prosit!
Martin
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> Hi Martin,
>
> Of course the beer will be room temperature and not cold? :-)
> Where as room temperature beer is better for studying meteorites :-)
>
> --AL (starting up the warm beer/cold beer thread again)
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> Martin Altmann wrote:
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> Greetings from Munich, where I found a new exiting beer. Hope to drink
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> some of you some pints, when the Mineralientage will take place in end of
> October!
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Hi Martin, Of course the beer will be room temperature and not cold? :-) Where as room temperature beer is better for studying meteorites :-) --AL (starting up the warm beer/cold beer thread again) Martin Altmann wrote: Greetings from Munich, where I found a new exiting beer. Hope to drink with some of you some pints, when the Mineralientage will take place in end of October! Skol Martin __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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In a message dated 8/21/2004 8:13:48 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then I guess you'd better have a salad! Then you can come mow my lawn, take out the garbage and fix my car! ;-)) Jeannie > Dear Ladies; > Maybe we should have a reverse poll, how many meteorite gals like to > cook, or for that matter sew? > I am hungry and my pants don't fit! > DAve F. And my house needs painting! I can sew, I can cook, but only when I have nothing more interesting to do. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA #2356, www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Then I guess you'd better have a salad! Then you can come mow my lawn, take out the garbage and fix my car! ;-)) Jeannie > Dear Ladies; > Maybe we should have a reverse poll, how many meteorite gals like to > cook, or for that matter sew? > I am hungry and my pants don't fit! > DAve F. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >In a message dated 8/21/2004 3:49:17 PM Mountain Standard Time, > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >First Bernd, I really agree that is a gorgeous slice of Tambo Quemado! > >Its really *einmalig*! ;-) > > > >To the question is it for boys only, well, I guess we all know better, > >because there is Anne Black, Twink Monrad, Tracy, Maria, Teresa Moss and my > >friend Cuc Schaeffer and me that I am aware of. > >Compared to the men on the list it is not too many of us. > >Cuc and I went meteorite hunting just the other day without a man! ;-) > > > > > >Hello Moni, and guys! > > > >It was all a man's fault that I started collecting minerals. > >My (ex) husband liked to go fishing, something that I found very boring, so > >while he waited for a fish to commit suicide, I started looking around and > >finding pretty rocks, not at all difficult when you are in the Rockies. Then I > >wanted to know what those pretty rocks were, then I discovered the Denver Show, > >...and I now have a large mineral collection, and a lot of meteorites. > >And yes, Bernd, your Tambo is very interesting. I have a bunch of them, I > >better go look at them again, and very carefully. > > > >Anne Black > >Impactika.com > >__ > >Meteorite-list mailing list > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Dear Ladies; Maybe we should have a reverse poll, how many meteorite gals like to cook, or for that matter sew? I am hungry and my pants don't fit! DAve F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/21/2004 3:49:17 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First Bernd, I really agree that is a gorgeous slice of Tambo Quemado! Its really *einmalig*! ;-) To the question is it for boys only, well, I guess we all know better, because there is Anne Black, Twink Monrad, Tracy, Maria, Teresa Moss and my friend Cuc Schaeffer and me that I am aware of. Compared to the men on the list it is not too many of us. Cuc and I went meteorite hunting just the other day without a man! ;-) Hello Moni, and guys! It was all a man's fault that I started collecting minerals. My (ex) husband liked to go fishing, something that I found very boring, so while he waited for a fish to commit suicide, I started looking around and finding pretty rocks, not at all difficult when you are in the Rockies. Then I wanted to know what those pretty rocks were, then I discovered the Denver Show, ...and I now have a large mineral collection, and a lot of meteorites. And yes, Bernd, your Tambo is very interesting. I have a bunch of them, I better go look at them again, and very carefully. Anne Black Impactika.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I think it depends both on nature and nurture. My parents recognized at an early age that I wanted to know what made things 'tick', and blessed me with many family vacations to interesting spots and informative books. I still have rocks I picked up in the bottom of the Grand Canyon, an enormous collection of seashells acquired on Sanibel Island, and a few crumbs I brushed from the soles of my shoes after climbing Ayers Rock. They also argued my case with the school counselor who refused to let me take AP Physics; I think my father wanted another engineer in the family :-) I like to know "why", but just as much, I like things that make me think or are beautiful. Sometimes the beauty is more intellectual than physical, as the notion that I can hold a rock that came from the Moon or Mars or farther out! I still drool over a nice slice of Esquel, though, which you must admit is as nice as anything that ever came from the workshops of Tiffany. Science is for everyone! Tracy Latimer _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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In a message dated 8/21/2004 3:49:17 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First Bernd, I really agree that is a gorgeous slice of Tambo Quemado! Its really *einmalig*! ;-) To the question is it for boys only, well, I guess we all know better, because there is Anne Black, Twink Monrad, Tracy, Maria, Teresa Moss and my friend Cuc Schaeffer and me that I am aware of. Compared to the men on the list it is not too many of us. Cuc and I went meteorite hunting just the other day without a man! ;-) Hello Moni, and guys! It was all a man's fault that I started collecting minerals. My (ex) husband liked to go fishing, something that I found very boring, so while he waited for a fish to commit suicide, I started looking around and finding pretty rocks, not at all difficult when you are in the Rockies. Then I wanted to know what those pretty rocks were, then I discovered the Denver Show, ...and I now have a large mineral collection, and a lot of meteorites. And yes, Bernd, your Tambo is very interesting. I have a bunch of them, I better go look at them again, and very carefully. Anne Black Impactika.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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This is an interesting question. I have been a collector for some time now, and I was one of those kids who always came home with a pocket full of rocks from wherever I went. Sometimes I liked the way they felt, sometimes the color, sometimes the shape, sometimes I liked it because it looked like a horse or a potato or a car. My class went on a field trip once to Franklin Mines in NJ, and many of the rocks were fluorescent. My mother had told me I could only bring home what I could carry myself, so I brought an old army duffle bag and dragged home 80 pounds of rocks! : ) When I was 10, we did some excavation work at my house and after much begging, my parents let me keep the massive dirt pile that was the end result of it all. I would sit for hours, literally, cracking open rocks to see what was inside. When anyone I know went somewhere on vacation, I'd always ask for a rock. Not something purchased wholesale and sold in a local rock shop, but an actual piece of the place. It was not only a study (for me) of what that distant place was *made* of, but also interesting to see what kind of rock that particular person would choose, and where they would choose it from (an interesting historical site, an interesting geological site, or just a random rock somewhere that caught their eye). I was very good in science in school, but once the study of a particular subject got too far into minute details, it would lose interest for me. I love biology, geology, chemistry, and to some extend physics too. I like mathematical theory, but nothing involving actual numbers! I guess I'm more of a concept/theory person rather than a nuts & bolts/practical application/statistics person. I don't know if this is more true of women, or not. And as for gemstones, I love them but never wear them. Go figure! I absolutely love meteorites, but perhaps not for the same reasons that many on this list do. I don't really consider them an investment, I don't really pay too much attention to the very detailed chemistry of a particular specimen. I try not to let collecting become anything that brings me frustration, so I don't really keep tabs on the "politics" of collecting, or who is undercutting who in price. But, I do love them, for probably the same reason I loved getting rocks from wherever my family and friends traveled. It is a piece of somewhere. Some very real place where no one has been, with a very real story if only it could let us know. It is a link and a *connection* to something entirely "other". And yes, sometimes I just have to have a meteorite for the way it looks, or feels, for its story, or sometimes even just for the name. This may seem frivolous and unscientific but it makes me happy so I just go with it! Same with astronomy. I love looking at planets, stars, northern lights, meteor showers, you name it. I have a great telescope, but the equipment itself doesn't do much for me the way it does for some people. It's the feeling of being able to be connected to the universe in some way that eludes you in day to day life. I think that maybe collecting is more of a personality thing, rather than a gender thing although with those statistics it's hard to argue there isn't a gender bias. I have trained many employees at my store to sell meteorites over the years, and many of them have become collectors too. Women seem just as interested as men, for the most part. But you would have to expect that anyone working in my store is already going to be predisposed to liking the natural sciences. Alright, I've rambled on far too much and all I can provide is anecdotal information for one person after all! Back to lurking! Jeannie - Original Message - From: "Martin Altmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are Meteorites For Boys Only? > Maybe a question of old role plays and old patterns of education? Boys > playing with dirty stones, frogs etc. and girls have the destiny to play > household and to handle with more "pretty" things and of course they are > more talkative so predestinated for linguistic concepts? > There are some promising results here in Germany ,( perhaps as a teacher you > know better Bernd?), that in school girls, if they are not disturbed by us > nasty boys, thus giving up the coeducation, they get much better results in > natural science, physics, maths (biology is already a domain of girls) in > school. > Also as an amateur astronomer I made this observation, that there is only a > minor fraction of female enthusiasts. > > Another concern - I don't know, if my emails made it through the list, as I > don't get it displayed here, while the other traffic is visible. > Same I heard now from othe
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Guten Abend Bernd und Martin and Hi List! First Bernd, I really agree that is a gorgeous slice of Tambo Quemado! Its really *einmalig*! ;-) To the question is it for boys only, well, I guess we all know better, because there is Anne Black, Twink Monrad, Tracy, Maria, Teresa Moss and my friend Cuc Schaeffer and me that I am aware of. Compared to the men on the list it is not too many of us. Cuc and I went meteorite hunting just the other day without a man! ;-) I have two sisters, one in Germany who is into fossils and a sister in Queensland, Australia, whose closets are full of rocks! I believe it was our upbringing, because our parents were very much into the outdoors and nature. I will always be very grateful to Bob Verish to introduce me to meteorites, because when I look at them in my curio, I feel as I am the most fortunate and luckiest person to ever have found these rocks from space! My perspective is not from a collectors point of view, because I mostly collect only the ones I find. I love to be in the desert, love to see the wild life, wild horses, unusual lizards, badgers, and almost stepping on a Mojave green rattlesnake! Love the hot winds, the 1/2 inch hail beating down on us, getting stuck in the mud and the night sky with the millions of stars shining on us. Its like they say: Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away! My friend Cuc also loves to be outdoors and to be looking for them meteorites, besides we do get a great suntan! ;-) I am sure other 'meteorite huntresses or collectors' will add to my respond. Sternengruss, Moni From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Are Meteorites For Boys Only? Date: 21 Aug 2004 21:13:34 UT Very interesting question and I would leave it to our "girls" to respond. But there is one (statistical) observation from 32 years of teaching at a German high school: The girls I have been teaching during the last 32 years were mostly good at languages whereas the boys preferred scientific subjects. Whether the foundation stone for such orientations is laid in early childhood, I don't know but I will ask both my 36-year-old daughter and my 29-year-old son plus my son-in-law what they think about it. Maybe we "automatically" bring up boys orienting them more toward science while we "inadvertently" direct girls toward "more female" things (whatever that is) ... I really don't know but would like to know ! Best wishes, Bernd _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Are Meteorites For Boys Only?
Maybe a question of old role plays and old patterns of education? Boys playing with dirty stones, frogs etc. and girls have the destiny to play household and to handle with more "pretty" things and of course they are more talkative so predestinated for linguistic concepts? There are some promising results here in Germany ,( perhaps as a teacher you know better Bernd?), that in school girls, if they are not disturbed by us nasty boys, thus giving up the coeducation, they get much better results in natural science, physics, maths (biology is already a domain of girls) in school. Also as an amateur astronomer I made this observation, that there is only a minor fraction of female enthusiasts. Another concern - I don't know, if my emails made it through the list, as I don't get it displayed here, while the other traffic is visible. Same I heard now from other members. So please administrator: Help! (and sorry if there were multiple test mails from me...). Greetings from Munich, where I found a new exiting beer. Hope to drink with some of you some pints, when the Mineralientage will take place in end of October! Skol Martin - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 11:13 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Are Meteorites For Boys Only? > Very interesting question and I would leave it to our "girls" to respond. > But there is one (statistical) observation from 32 years of teaching at > a German high school: The girls I have been teaching during the last > 32 years were mostly good at languages whereas the boys preferred > scientific subjects. Whether the foundation stone for such orientations > is laid in early childhood, I don't know but I will ask both my 36-year-old > daughter and my 29-year-old son plus my son-in-law what they think > about it. Maybe we "automatically" bring up boys orienting them more > toward science while we "inadvertently" direct girls toward "more female" > things (whatever that is) ... I really don't know but would like to know ! > > Best wishes, > > Bernd > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Are meteorites for boys only?
Dear Martin and List, I feel that given the fact that if you break it down to the very basics, meteorites are rocks! Although they are less common rocks or elusive (Sorry Doug) they are basically still rocks. From my experience women (Not All - See Impactika.com) generally prefer rocks after they have been formed into jewelry. A few can still be found dragging home each and every rock they find (My Girlfriend) and those are probably more likely to get into meteorites. A bath may still be good though! Curt __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Are Meteorites For Boys Only?
Very interesting question and I would leave it to our "girls" to respond. But there is one (statistical) observation from 32 years of teaching at a German high school: The girls I have been teaching during the last 32 years were mostly good at languages whereas the boys preferred scientific subjects. Whether the foundation stone for such orientations is laid in early childhood, I don't know but I will ask both my 36-year-old daughter and my 29-year-old son plus my son-in-law what they think about it. Maybe we "automatically" bring up boys orienting them more toward science while we "inadvertently" direct girls toward "more female" things (whatever that is) ... I really don't know but would like to know ! Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Are meteorites for boys only?
Strange enough, my mails are coming through to the list only when I reply to an email from the listbut this question here really is yearning for an answer... Hi List, I made some private statistics with a remarkable result: Among the 400-500 persons, who took meteorites from me until now, were only 12% women. If I deduct from those 12%, those who took a meteorite to use it as a gift or for esotericism and those, which were buying only a single iron or a "beginner's" stone like Gao, typical for people, who wish only once to own a piece of space and a few, where I'm not sure whether the first name is female, the outcome will be: That only 2% of all meteorite collectors are female!! What are the reasons? Or should I take a bath? Martin A. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
