Re: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz
From a news of my moroccan dealer the total mass is go up to 60 kg. and its classificated a L6wow, in few days have a classification of the meteorite..many strange Matteo From: Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 20:26:15 +0100 Not only that but habibi said that it was written in the local newspaper so we are looking at strong proof of a fall. I wonder, can somebody (Habibi?) send me a (Rather large so as to be readable) scan of the newspaper article? I will post it on the web and while I realize that it is likely to be in arabic which I cannot read I am sure somebody would be able to translate it (And I will then post the translation). I think that this would be beneficial to everybody because when the met society votes on it, it would give the met society more evidence of it really being a fall rather than a fresh find like some people are suspicious of. The met society even had its suspicions of Bensur which is definately a fall so this one will certainly be more suspicious. So if anybody has a copy of the newspaper article send me a copy. Or maybe the newspaper is online? Cheers DEAN Hello I wonder if becouse Mike is now in Morocco he will try to reach Ground Zero and make few photos ? If there is a fresh crater someone should make a detailed photos that will be a best proof that there was a fresh fall. Morocco is a country where every kid and old man know what meteorites is, so they have a great luck. In Poland we have now info about stone that fall 10m from a person :) But the stone was fake. So or man drive some hundreds kilometers to say a nice science-fiction storry or they like alvays dig from a small crater wrong stone. Meteorites fall everyday, but who know HERE what it is and how much this is worth ? Not many... -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Ricerche online più semplici e veloci con MSN Toolbar! http://toolbar.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz
hello bernd and list well the sample well be analised this week by nelson , i think end of the week we will know what is it. i get only two stones and i hope the guys bring me more once the area is more safe. for my name bernd it means. aziz= darling habibi= my love. a strange name for a strange man. all the best to all aziz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz Date: 27 Nov 2004 23:45:26 UT Aside from all this hustle about Bengrir, his first name is Aziz, the family name is Habibi. Although I do not speak Arabic, I do know what his first name and his family name mean but, of course, it is not up to me to disclose such information. Anyway, looking forward to hearing about Bengrir's classification and glad to see that the recent stormy weather on this list has finally abated and list members talk meteorites again instead of slinging mud at each other. Cheers and good night, it is 00:45 here, ... yawn, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz
many strange, 2 stones with all grey matrix - Bensour, Amgala..and one 2002, 2003 and now 2004and strangly a laboratory give immediatly the analysis of this stonemah. Matteo From: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:42:15 + hello bernd and list well the sample well be analised this week by nelson , i think end of the week we will know what is it. i get only two stones and i hope the guys bring me more once the area is more safe. for my name bernd it means. aziz= darling habibi= my love. a strange name for a strange man. all the best to all aziz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz Date: 27 Nov 2004 23:45:26 UT Aside from all this hustle about Bengrir, his first name is Aziz, the family name is Habibi. Although I do not speak Arabic, I do know what his first name and his family name mean but, of course, it is not up to me to disclose such information. Anyway, looking forward to hearing about Bengrir's classification and glad to see that the recent stormy weather on this list has finally abated and list members talk meteorites again instead of slinging mud at each other. Cheers and good night, it is 00:45 here, ... yawn, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Personalizza MSN Messenger con sfondi e fotografie! http://www.ilovemessenger.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz
Matteo, Aziz , did say that there was a 10 Kilo main mass that was found in a crater. If that impact was proved , then it would be pretty hard to dispute this new fall. Wouldnt it? Bob Evans - Original Message - From: McomeMeteorite Meteorite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz many strange, 2 stones with all grey matrix - Bensour, Amgala..and one 2002, 2003 and now 2004and strangly a laboratory give immediatly the analysis of this stonemah. Matteo From: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:42:15 + hello bernd and list well the sample well be analised this week by nelson , i think end of the week we will know what is it. i get only two stones and i hope the guys bring me more once the area is more safe. for my name bernd it means. aziz= darling habibi= my love. a strange name for a strange man. all the best to all aziz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz Date: 27 Nov 2004 23:45:26 UT Aside from all this hustle about Bengrir, his first name is Aziz, the family name is Habibi. Although I do not speak Arabic, I do know what his first name and his family name mean but, of course, it is not up to me to disclose such information. Anyway, looking forward to hearing about Bengrir's classification and glad to see that the recent stormy weather on this list has finally abated and list members talk meteorites again instead of slinging mud at each other. Cheers and good night, it is 00:45 here, ... yawn, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Personalizza MSN Messenger con sfondi e fotografie! http://www.ilovemessenger.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz
Or the Morocco its a magnet or is impossible every year a meteorite fall in Morocco, when in Italy, many biggest in long of the Morocco, no meteorites its fall from years, strange no people seen a fireball fall Matteo From: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED],McomeMeteorite Meteorite [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 09:37:13 -0600 Matteo, Aziz , did say that there was a 10 Kilo main mass that was found in a crater. If that impact was proved , then it would be pretty hard to dispute this new fall. Wouldnt it? Bob Evans - Original Message - From: McomeMeteorite Meteorite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz many strange, 2 stones with all grey matrix - Bensour, Amgala..and one 2002, 2003 and now 2004and strangly a laboratory give immediatly the analysis of this stonemah. Matteo From: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:42:15 + hello bernd and list well the sample well be analised this week by nelson , i think end of the week we will know what is it. i get only two stones and i hope the guys bring me more once the area is more safe. for my name bernd it means. aziz= darling habibi= my love. a strange name for a strange man. all the best to all aziz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz Date: 27 Nov 2004 23:45:26 UT Aside from all this hustle about Bengrir, his first name is Aziz, the family name is Habibi. Although I do not speak Arabic, I do know what his first name and his family name mean but, of course, it is not up to me to disclose such information. Anyway, looking forward to hearing about Bengrir's classification and glad to see that the recent stormy weather on this list has finally abated and list members talk meteorites again instead of slinging mud at each other. Cheers and good night, it is 00:45 here, ... yawn, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Personalizza MSN Messenger con sfondi e fotografie! http://www.ilovemessenger.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Ricerche online più semplici e veloci con MSN Toolbar! http://toolbar.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz
Matteo, Aziz , did say that there was a 10 Kilo main mass that was found in a crater. If that impact was proved , then it would be pretty hard to dispute this new fall. Wouldnt it? Bob Evan Not only that but habibi said that it was written in the local newspaper so we are looking at strong proof of a fall. I wonder, can somebody (Habibi?) send me a (Rather large so as to be readable) scan of the newspaper article? I will post it on the web and while I realize that it is likely to be in arabic which I cannot read I am sure somebody would be able to translate it (And I will then post the translation). I think that this would be beneficial to everybody because when the met society votes on it, it would give the met society more evidence of it really being a fall rather than a fresh find like some people are suspicious of. The met society even had its suspicions of Bensur which is definately a fall so this one will certainly be more suspicious. So if anybody has a copy of the newspaper article send me a copy. Or maybe the newspaper is online? Cheers DEAN __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Fw: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz
Do you really think it would be that easy for the morrocans to replicate a impact crater with shovels? I sure hope there are pics of this crater BE - Original Message - From: McomeMeteorite Meteorite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz I have received some private emails where many are of my same idea...its easy take some pieces of another meteorite and put this into a crater excavated.and is impossible a fall over Morocco every year Matteo From: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED],McomeMeteorite Meteorite [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 09:37:13 -0600 Matteo, Aziz , did say that there was a 10 Kilo main mass that was found in a crater. If that impact was proved , then it would be pretty hard to dispute this new fall. Wouldnt it? Bob Evans - Original Message - From: McomeMeteorite Meteorite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz many strange, 2 stones with all grey matrix - Bensour, Amgala..and one 2002, 2003 and now 2004and strangly a laboratory give immediatly the analysis of this stonemah. Matteo From: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:42:15 + hello bernd and list well the sample well be analised this week by nelson , i think end of the week we will know what is it. i get only two stones and i hope the guys bring me more once the area is more safe. for my name bernd it means. aziz= darling habibi= my love. a strange name for a strange man. all the best to all aziz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz Date: 27 Nov 2004 23:45:26 UT Aside from all this hustle about Bengrir, his first name is Aziz, the family name is Habibi. Although I do not speak Arabic, I do know what his first name and his family name mean but, of course, it is not up to me to disclose such information. Anyway, looking forward to hearing about Bengrir's classification and glad to see that the recent stormy weather on this list has finally abated and list members talk meteorites again instead of slinging mud at each other. Cheers and good night, it is 00:45 here, ... yawn, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Personalizza MSN Messenger con sfondi e fotografie! http://www.ilovemessenger.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Personalizza MSN Messenger con sfondi e fotografie! http://www.ilovemessenger.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz
Hello everybody, Aziz tell the truth, this new fall is real. Here is the link for a french translation of an article published in a moroccan newspaper Al- Ittihad Al-Ichtiraki: http://www.ambafrance-ma.org/presse/index.cfm?jr=20041125 Some news from the strewn field soon! Philippe Thomas Meteoritica Message du 28/11/04 16:45 De : dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copie à : Objet : Re: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz Matteo, Aziz , did say that there was a 10 Kilo main mass that was found in a crater. If that impact was proved , then it would be pretty hard to dispute this new fall. Wouldnt it? Bob Evan Not only that but habibi said that it was written in the local newspaper so we are looking at strong proof of a fall. I wonder, can somebody (Habibi?) send me a (Rather large so as to be readable) scan of the newspaper article? I will post it on the web and while I realize that it is likely to be in arabic which I cannot read I am sure somebody would be able to translate it (And I will then post the translation). I think that this would be beneficial to everybody because when the met society votes on it, it would give the met society more evidence of it really being a fall rather than a fresh find like some people are suspicious of. The met society even had its suspicions of Bensur which is definately a fall so this one will certainly be more suspicious. So if anybody has a copy of the newspaper article send me a copy. Or maybe the newspaper is online? Cheers DEAN __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz
I finally got the extra photos so they are updated now on my site all in one place easy to view: http://www.meteoriteshop.com/hab/habibi.html From Habibis photos it certainly looks like a fall. If it was on the ground even 6 months and even in dry morocco it would be slightly weathered. See the first photo which almost looks to have flow lines although it is hard to tell. I am told that it is likely an L6 and that there is a fair amount of it which also indicats that is is really a fall. I have spoken to several moroccans now who I consider trustworthy and from everything that I have seen this is really a fall and not a suped up find. There doesnt seem any evidence of faking a fall. If it is it certainly involves a lot of people. Looks like the moroccans hit the jackpot yet again. Cheers DEAN __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz
one questionwhat crater product a meteorite of 10 kg.? The Fermo meteorite its a 10.2 kg. meteorite and have product a little crater, squander 40 cm. Now I no understand what biggest crater its possible for a 10 kg. meteorite in the send..and from what I understand this meteorite its fragmented, not a unique piece.mah Matteo From: dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 08:53:56 -0800 (PST) I finally got the extra photos so they are updated now on my site all in one place easy to view: http://www.meteoriteshop.com/hab/habibi.html From Habibis photos it certainly looks like a fall. If it was on the ground even 6 months and even in dry morocco it would be slightly weathered. See the first photo which almost looks to have flow lines although it is hard to tell. I am told that it is likely an L6 and that there is a fair amount of it which also indicats that is is really a fall. I have spoken to several moroccans now who I consider trustworthy and from everything that I have seen this is really a fall and not a suped up find. There doesnt seem any evidence of faking a fall. If it is it certainly involves a lot of people. Looks like the moroccans hit the jackpot yet again. Cheers DEAN __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Filtri antispamming e antivirus per la tua casella di posta http://www.msn.it/msn/hotmail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz
Not only that but habibi said that it was written in the local newspaper so we are looking at strong proof of a fall. I wonder, can somebody (Habibi?) send me a (Rather large so as to be readable) scan of the newspaper article? I will post it on the web and while I realize that it is likely to be in arabic which I cannot read I am sure somebody would be able to translate it (And I will then post the translation). I think that this would be beneficial to everybody because when the met society votes on it, it would give the met society more evidence of it really being a fall rather than a fresh find like some people are suspicious of. The met society even had its suspicions of Bensur which is definately a fall so this one will certainly be more suspicious. So if anybody has a copy of the newspaper article send me a copy. Or maybe the newspaper is online? Cheers DEAN Hello I wonder if becouse Mike is now in Morocco he will try to reach Ground Zero and make few photos ? If there is a fresh crater someone should make a detailed photos that will be a best proof that there was a fresh fall. Morocco is a country where every kid and old man know what meteorites is, so they have a great luck. In Poland we have now info about stone that fall 10m from a person :) But the stone was fake. So or man drive some hundreds kilometers to say a nice science-fiction storry or they like alvays dig from a small crater wrong stone. Meteorites fall everyday, but who know HERE what it is and how much this is worth ? Not many... -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz
Aside from all this hustle about Bengrir, his first name is Aziz, the family name is Habibi. Although I do not speak Arabic, I do know what his first name and his family name mean but, of course, it is not up to me to disclose such information. Anyway, looking forward to hearing about Bengrir's classification and glad to see that the recent stormy weather on this list has finally abated and list members talk meteorites again instead of slinging mud at each other. Cheers and good night, it is 00:45 here, ... yawn, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
