Re: [meteorite-list] Dirk Ross / San Luis Potosi (non)-meteor?
G'Day Gentlemen I'm all for Dirk's page, very informative. I have problems from time to time with so much going on that my poor little puter spits a dummy. Oops.. sorry pacifier, I'm in America now ;) Good work Dirk. Cheers John Cabassi On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Dave Gheesling wrote: > Rob, All, > Absolutely agree re: Dirk, and that's an interesting analysis of those > videos (both in the link and in your comments). Does the apparent speed > appear to be a bit "hot" as well? > All the best, > Dave > www.fallingrocks.com > > -Original Message- > From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Matson, > Robert D. > Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 4:53 PM > To: Count Deiro; Meteorite List > Subject: [meteorite-list] Dirk Ross / San Luis Potosi (non)-meteor? > > Hi Count, > > I absolutely concur that Dirk's efforts seem to be appreciated by many, but > publicly acknowledged by few. So let me go on record thanking Dirk for his > tireless efforts -- more often than not, he is the first to report on a new > potential meteorite-dropping event, and his site is a must-visit for seeing > early videos. > > Unfortunately, I'm of the opinion that the San Luis Potosi videos are an > elaborate hoax, as the meteor cannot be confirmed using one of my reliable > sources. There was no bright meteor over central Mexico at any time from 4 > pm to 6 pm local time (CDT) on 21 August, which corresponds to 21:00-23:00 > UT. > > Apparently I'm not the only one of this opinion. Dirk forwarded me the > following link that he received from someone who has picked apart the four > videos. You can judge for yourself, but I think he/she has found some subtle > "glitches" and oversights that call into question their validity: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F7ySYpB1RM&feature=youtu.be > > I am also bothered by the mismatch between the reported time of the fall > (~5:25 pm) and the sun's elevation angle -- particularly in the church > video. The sun appears to be very high in the sky for so late in the day. > And where are all the witness reports, or stories in Mexican newspapers? > > Finally, two of the videos are too "lucky", in the sense that they just > happened to be recording something rather un-video-worthy (some random train > from a car, and a poorly framed church tower) and the meteor magically > appears. > > What do you all think? --Rob > > > -Original Message- > From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Count > Deiro > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:46 PM > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] San Luis Potosi Meteor > > Hi Listers, > > One of the small things in life, but something that brings big pleasure is > to have the opportunity to compliment and thank someone for their providing > free gratis excitement and interest into your life. > > Our colleague and friend in Tokyo, Dirk Ross, tirelessly maintains his WORLD > WIDE METEOR/METEORITE site gathering and posting the news,videos and photos > of events we are interested in. > > His posting of the four extraordinary videos of the August 21st. meteor > crossing the mountains and valleys near San Luis Potosi, Mexico are > thrilling. The last of the four is such a classic that it will always remain > in my memory bank. It is far more interesting than the video of the Great > Fireball of 1972 (Gran Teton Grazer.) > > http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/08/san-luis-potosi-mexico- > daytime-bolide.html > > Thank you Dirk..I understand there were sonics associated with this meteor. > It would be great to find if it became a meteorite. > > Cordially, > > Count Deiro > IMCA 3536 > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dirk Ross / San Luis Potosi (non)-meteor?
Rob, All, Absolutely agree re: Dirk, and that's an interesting analysis of those videos (both in the link and in your comments). Does the apparent speed appear to be a bit "hot" as well? All the best, Dave www.fallingrocks.com -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Matson, Robert D. Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 4:53 PM To: Count Deiro; Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Dirk Ross / San Luis Potosi (non)-meteor? Hi Count, I absolutely concur that Dirk's efforts seem to be appreciated by many, but publicly acknowledged by few. So let me go on record thanking Dirk for his tireless efforts -- more often than not, he is the first to report on a new potential meteorite-dropping event, and his site is a must-visit for seeing early videos. Unfortunately, I'm of the opinion that the San Luis Potosi videos are an elaborate hoax, as the meteor cannot be confirmed using one of my reliable sources. There was no bright meteor over central Mexico at any time from 4 pm to 6 pm local time (CDT) on 21 August, which corresponds to 21:00-23:00 UT. Apparently I'm not the only one of this opinion. Dirk forwarded me the following link that he received from someone who has picked apart the four videos. You can judge for yourself, but I think he/she has found some subtle "glitches" and oversights that call into question their validity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F7ySYpB1RM&feature=youtu.be I am also bothered by the mismatch between the reported time of the fall (~5:25 pm) and the sun's elevation angle -- particularly in the church video. The sun appears to be very high in the sky for so late in the day. And where are all the witness reports, or stories in Mexican newspapers? Finally, two of the videos are too "lucky", in the sense that they just happened to be recording something rather un-video-worthy (some random train from a car, and a poorly framed church tower) and the meteor magically appears. What do you all think? --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Count Deiro Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:46 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] San Luis Potosi Meteor Hi Listers, One of the small things in life, but something that brings big pleasure is to have the opportunity to compliment and thank someone for their providing free gratis excitement and interest into your life. Our colleague and friend in Tokyo, Dirk Ross, tirelessly maintains his WORLD WIDE METEOR/METEORITE site gathering and posting the news,videos and photos of events we are interested in. His posting of the four extraordinary videos of the August 21st. meteor crossing the mountains and valleys near San Luis Potosi, Mexico are thrilling. The last of the four is such a classic that it will always remain in my memory bank. It is far more interesting than the video of the Great Fireball of 1972 (Gran Teton Grazer.) http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/08/san-luis-potosi-mexico- daytime-bolide.html Thank you Dirk..I understand there were sonics associated with this meteor. It would be great to find if it became a meteorite. Cordially, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Dirk Ross / San Luis Potosi (non)-meteor?
Hi Count, I absolutely concur that Dirk's efforts seem to be appreciated by many, but publicly acknowledged by few. So let me go on record thanking Dirk for his tireless efforts -- more often than not, he is the first to report on a new potential meteorite-dropping event, and his site is a must-visit for seeing early videos. Unfortunately, I'm of the opinion that the San Luis Potosi videos are an elaborate hoax, as the meteor cannot be confirmed using one of my reliable sources. There was no bright meteor over central Mexico at any time from 4 pm to 6 pm local time (CDT) on 21 August, which corresponds to 21:00-23:00 UT. Apparently I'm not the only one of this opinion. Dirk forwarded me the following link that he received from someone who has picked apart the four videos. You can judge for yourself, but I think he/she has found some subtle "glitches" and oversights that call into question their validity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F7ySYpB1RM&feature=youtu.be I am also bothered by the mismatch between the reported time of the fall (~5:25 pm) and the sun's elevation angle -- particularly in the church video. The sun appears to be very high in the sky for so late in the day. And where are all the witness reports, or stories in Mexican newspapers? Finally, two of the videos are too "lucky", in the sense that they just happened to be recording something rather un-video-worthy (some random train from a car, and a poorly framed church tower) and the meteor magically appears. What do you all think? --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Count Deiro Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:46 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] San Luis Potosi Meteor Hi Listers, One of the small things in life, but something that brings big pleasure is to have the opportunity to compliment and thank someone for their providing free gratis excitement and interest into your life. Our colleague and friend in Tokyo, Dirk Ross, tirelessly maintains his WORLD WIDE METEOR/METEORITE site gathering and posting the news,videos and photos of events we are interested in. His posting of the four extraordinary videos of the August 21st. meteor crossing the mountains and valleys near San Luis Potosi, Mexico are thrilling. The last of the four is such a classic that it will always remain in my memory bank. It is far more interesting than the video of the Great Fireball of 1972 (Gran Teton Grazer.) http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/08/san-luis-potosi-mexico- daytime-bolide.html Thank you Dirk..I understand there were sonics associated with this meteor. It would be great to find if it became a meteorite. Cordially, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dirk Ross / San Luis Potosi (non)-meteor?
adding my voice to the few.;-) On Sep 4, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Matson, Robert D. wrote: > Hi Count, > > I absolutely concur that Dirk's efforts seem to be appreciated by many, > but publicly acknowledged by few. So let me go on record thanking Dirk > for his tireless efforts -- more often than not, he is the first to > report on a new potential meteorite-dropping event, and his site is > a must-visit for seeing early videos. > > Unfortunately, I'm of the opinion that the San Luis Potosi videos > are an elaborate hoax, as the meteor cannot be confirmed using one > of my reliable sources. There was no bright meteor over central > Mexico at any time from 4 pm to 6 pm local time (CDT) on 21 August, > which corresponds to 21:00-23:00 UT. > > Apparently I'm not the only one of this opinion. Dirk forwarded me > the following link that he received from someone who has picked > apart the four videos. You can judge for yourself, but I think he/she > has found some subtle "glitches" and oversights that call into > question their validity: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F7ySYpB1RM&feature=youtu.be > > I am also bothered by the mismatch between the reported time of the > fall (~5:25 pm) and the sun's elevation angle -- particularly in > the church video. The sun appears to be very high in the sky for > so late in the day. And where are all the witness reports, or > stories in Mexican newspapers? > > Finally, two of the videos are too "lucky", in the sense that they > just happened to be recording something rather un-video-worthy (some > random train from a car, and a poorly framed church tower) and > the meteor magically appears. > > What do you all think? --Rob > > > -Original Message- > From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Count > Deiro > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:46 PM > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] San Luis Potosi Meteor > > Hi Listers, > > One of the small things in life, but something that brings big pleasure > is to have the opportunity to compliment and thank someone for their > providing free gratis excitement and interest into your life. > > Our colleague and friend in Tokyo, Dirk Ross, tirelessly maintains his > WORLD WIDE METEOR/METEORITE site gathering and posting the news,videos > and photos of events we are interested in. > > His posting of the four extraordinary videos of the August 21st. meteor > crossing the mountains and valleys near San Luis Potosi, Mexico are > thrilling. The last of the four is such a classic that it will always > remain in my memory bank. It is far more interesting than the video of > the Great Fireball of 1972 (Gran Teton Grazer.) > > http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/08/san-luis-potosi-mexico- > daytime-bolide.html > > Thank you Dirk..I understand there were sonics associated with this > meteor. It would be great to find if it became a meteorite. > > Cordially, > > Count Deiro > IMCA 3536 > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
