[meteorite-list] Ensisheim meteorite tkw compilation

2007-02-07 Thread Zelimir Gabelica
Dear list,

First thanks many of you who sent me the masses of Ensisheim meteorite 
fragments you owe in your collections, for the compilation we are trying to 
achieve since a time.
Even the smallest masses do contribute to a total that is slowly 
increasing, although this preliminary compliation is far from being 
complete. But we will be updating this first list on a regular basis.
I wish to thank more particularly Jörn Koblitz for his valuable help in 
providing the most recent data from his last MetBase version, that remains 
a fantastic source of information.

Please find the list below, hoping it will be more easy to decipher than my 
preceding compilations.
You can note that there is now only one weight per institute or collector, 
although I had received often more than one (up to 5) often different 
numbers for each meteorite home.

I have selected the most likely weight based on the most recent data I 
received or had on hand. Variable numbers basically concerned institutes or 
museums, from which only old data were available from very different 
sources. These still badly need an update but it is really not easy to 
contact these people.

May I encourage you to continue to send me new data, additions and 
especially corrections, mostly (I believe) related to your own collections.
More specifically, if you have selective remarks or corrections regarding 
your own data as listed here (not only weights but sometimes addresses), 
I'll be glad to collect them as promptly as you can, just because we wish 
to print that list very very soon, as it is, onto the program sheet of the 
next Ensisehim show that will be distributed to all the attendees next June.

If your remarks can be collected within the forthcoming hours (say, within 
the next two days at the latest), we could include them and modify the 
compilation list accordingly.

Warm thanks to all of you in advance.

Best wishes,

Zelimir
--

Ensisheim meteorite weights, owned by different institutes or held in 
private collections, as compiled by Zelimir Gabelica (France).

Last update: February 7, 2007


Place (country), name (nb. of pieces, if known) MASS (g)
(NB: private collections: in italic)

Ensisheim (F), Musée Régence   53,831
Paris (F), Mus. d'Hist. Nat10,200
London (UK), Nat. Hist. 
Mus.911
Berlin (D), Mus.Humboldt 
Univ.  906
Vienna (A), Naturhist. Mus. 660
Malta (MN, USA), M. Cilz colln. 416
Tübingen (D), Min.-Petrogr. Inst315
Washington (DC, USA), U.S. Nat. Mus.235
Uppsala (S), Univ. Mus. 210
Tempe (AZ, USA), Arizona State 
Univ.   209
Brussels (B), Inst. Roy. Sci. Mus.  191
Zürich (CH), 
ETH189
Modena (I), Min. Inst. 
Univ.177
Tucson (AZ), R. Haag coll.  176
Karlsruhe (D), Univ. Mus.   142.0
Cambridge (UK), Univ.Mus.   133
Chicago (IL, USA), Field Mus. N. Hist.  115
New York (NY, USA), Amer. Mus. N. Hist. 112
Göttingen (D), Min. Inst. Univ. 111
Paris (F), Alain Carion coll.(4)102
Stockholm (S), Naturhist. 
Riksmus.80
Troyes (F), Mus. d'Hist. Nat. 79.1
Calcutta (In) Mus. Geol. Surv. 
India  77
Copenhagen (DK), Univ. Geol. Mus. 77
Basel (CH), Naturhist. 
Mus.   76
Strasbourg (F), Min. 
Mus  74
Dresden (D), Min. Geol. 
Mus.  73.4
Oxford (UK), Univ. 
Mus.   71
Kankakee (IL, USA), J.Schwade coll.   66
Prague (CZ), Nar. Mus.51.5
Rome (I), Vatican Observ. 
coll.   46.31
Buenos Aires (RA), O.A. Turone 
coll.   44.01
Bremen (D), J. Koblitz 
coll.  42.3
Honolulu (HI, USA), J. Murakami coll. 45g
Oeschgen (D), Beat Booz 
coll. 38.5
Paris (F), École des 
Mines38
Hamburg (D), Mus. Min.-Petr. 
Inst.36.1
Moscow (RU), Acad. 
Sci.   34
Turin (I), Univ. Mus  32.0
Harvard (MA, USA) Univ. Min. Mus. 

Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim meteorite tkw compilation

2007-02-08 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Hello

the piece in Modena University its a fake

Matteo

--- Zelimir Gabelica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha
scritto:

> Dear list,
> 
> First thanks many of you who sent me the masses of
> Ensisheim meteorite 
> fragments you owe in your collections, for the
> compilation we are trying to 
> achieve since a time.
> Even the smallest masses do contribute to a total
> that is slowly 
> increasing, although this preliminary compliation is
> far from being 
> complete. But we will be updating this first list on
> a regular basis.
> I wish to thank more particularly Jörn Koblitz for
> his valuable help in 
> providing the most recent data from his last MetBase
> version, that remains 
> a fantastic source of information.
> 
> Please find the list below, hoping it will be more
> easy to decipher than my 
> preceding compilations.
> You can note that there is now only one weight per
> institute or collector, 
> although I had received often more than one (up to
> 5) often different 
> numbers for each meteorite home.
> 
> I have selected the most likely weight based on the
> most recent data I 
> received or had on hand. Variable numbers basically
> concerned institutes or 
> museums, from which only old data were available
> from very different 
> sources. These still badly need an update but it is
> really not easy to 
> contact these people.
> 
> May I encourage you to continue to send me new data,
> additions and 
> especially corrections, mostly (I believe) related
> to your own collections.
> More specifically, if you have selective remarks or
> corrections regarding 
> your own data as listed here (not only weights but
> sometimes addresses), 
> I'll be glad to collect them as promptly as you can,
> just because we wish 
> to print that list very very soon, as it is, onto
> the program sheet of the 
> next Ensisehim show that will be distributed to all
> the attendees next June.
> 
> If your remarks can be collected within the
> forthcoming hours (say, within 
> the next two days at the latest), we could include
> them and modify the 
> compilation list accordingly.
> 
> Warm thanks to all of you in advance.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Zelimir
> --
> 
> Ensisheim meteorite weights, owned by different
> institutes or held in 
> private collections, as compiled by Zelimir Gabelica
> (France).
> 
> Last update: February 7, 2007
> 
> 
> Place (country), name (nb. of pieces, if known) 
>MASS (g)
> (NB: private collections: in italic)
> 
> Ensisheim (F), Musée Régence
>   53,831
> Paris (F), Mus. d'Hist. Nat 
>   10,200
> London (UK), Nat. Hist. 
> Mus.911
> Berlin (D), Mus.Humboldt 
> Univ.  906
> Vienna (A), Naturhist. Mus. 
>660
> Malta (MN, USA), M. Cilz colln. 
>416
> Tübingen (D), Min.-Petrogr. Inst
>315
> Washington (DC, USA), U.S. Nat. Mus.
>235
> Uppsala (S), Univ. Mus. 
>210
> Tempe (AZ, USA), Arizona State 
> Univ.   209
> Brussels (B), Inst. Roy. Sci. Mus.  
>191
> Zürich (CH), 
> ETH   
> 189
> Modena (I), Min. Inst. 
> Univ.177
> Tucson (AZ), R. Haag coll.  
>176
> Karlsruhe (D), Univ. Mus.   
>142.0
> Cambridge (UK), Univ.Mus.   
>133
> Chicago (IL, USA), Field Mus. N. Hist.  
>115
> New York (NY, USA), Amer. Mus. N. Hist. 
>112
> Göttingen (D), Min. Inst. Univ. 
>111
> Paris (F), Alain Carion coll.(4)
>102
> Stockholm (S), Naturhist. 
> Riksmus.80
> Troyes (F), Mus. d'Hist. Nat.   
>  79.1
> Calcutta (In) Mus. Geol. Surv. 
> India  77
> Copenhagen (DK), Univ. Geol. Mus.   
>  77
> Basel (CH), Naturhist. 
> Mus.   76
> Strasbourg (F), Min. 
> Mus 
> 74
> Dresden (D), Min. Geol. 
> Mus.  73.4
> Oxford (UK), Univ. 
> Mus.   71
> Kankakee (IL, USA), J.Schwade coll. 
>  66
> Prague (CZ), Nar. Mus.  
>  51.5
> Rome (I), Vatican Observ. 
> coll.   46.31
> Buenos Aires (RA), O.A. Turone 
> coll.   44.01
> Bremen (D), J. Koblitz 
> coll.  42.3
> Honolulu (HI, USA), J. Murakami coll.   
>  45g
> Oes

Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim meteorite tkw compilation

2007-02-07 Thread Zelimir Gabelica
Hi Matteo,

I believe I can trust you. Can you tell more ? A meteorwrong ? Some kind of 
(Ensisheim) plaster cast ? Or a real meteorite that is not Ensisheim ?

Thanks for info, it always helps.

I have another question for you about the following couple of data:

Bologna (I), R. Serra coll. 1.63 g
Bologna (I), Astron. Observatory1.6

Are these two collections the same  ? (the weights are so close...). In 
other words, is Romano Serra Curator of the Bologna Observatory meteorite 
collection ?

Thanks,

Zelimir


Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
Université de Haute Alsace
ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC,
3, Rue A. Werner,
F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France
Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94
Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15

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