[meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite

[Gary K. Foote]

Hi All,

I just received and photographed this very nice slice of Forestburg (b) from 
the Hupe' 
Collection.  Lately I've been focusing on widening my collection by purchasing 
smaller 
specimens and this one is just beautiful.  Some info about this meteorite;

An L5 chondrite found in 1957 at 33° 29' 44"N, 97° 35' 19"W, in Montague 
County, Texas, 
USA by Mr. Willard Freeman. Mr Freeman found this 26.6 kg stone in a dry 
creekbed where 
it may have been transported by water. 

Mineralogy and classification of Forestburg (b) (T. J. McCoy, JSC; A. J. 
Ehlmann, TCU): 
olivine, Fa25.8; pyroxene, Fs21.6; shock stage S5, weathering grade W1; the 
chondrite is 
shock blackened and contains impact melt clasts. 

If you want to take a look it is here;

http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/forestburg2-6.html

Best to All,

Gary Foote
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[meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite

[bernd . pauli]

Hello Gary and List,

> I just received and photographed this very nice slice of Forestburg (b) 
> from the Hupe Collection...and this one is just beautiful  Shock stage
> S5, weathering grade W1; the chondrite is shock blackened and contains
> impact melt clasts. 

If you want to take a look it is here:

http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/forestburg2-6.html

Congratulations, Gary! Excellent choice!

Anyone who hasn't seen this beauty yet, should do so. Like Gary, I am one of 
the happy
owners of a beautiful Forestburg (b) slice. Forestburg (b) is much more 
"handsome" than
Forestburg (a). My Forestburg (a/b) slices are from M. Cottingham and when I 
first saw
Michael's Forestburg (b) pictures on EBay, I knew I had to own it. It still is 
one of my
all-time favorites with its grayish-black, fresh matrix, its abundant, evenly 
distributed
FeNi specks, and its grayish-white oval chondrules!

Although it is possible that the stone has been transported by water (rusty 
brown, weathered
fusion crust), it is so very fresh that it seems improbable that it was exposed 
to water for
a longer period of time.

Even though its Fa value of 25.8 puts it in the vicinity of the LL chondrites, 
its low-Ca
pyroxene composition (Fs21.6) is still within the range for L chondrites. What 
a meteorite!

Best wishes,

Bernd


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[meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite

[Adam Hupe]

I think Forestburg(b) is an under appreciated bargain. I acquired my 
material from Blaine Reed who was selling at a very reasonable price.  I may 
have purchased all of his remaining inventory but I am not sure. I am glad 
Blaine Reed is still in business, he is great to work with and is honest, 
not to mention how fun he is to hang with at shows.  He still sends out 
mailings instead of using the internet for some reason, I guess this is part 
of the charm dealing with him.

Best Regards,

Adam


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Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite

[Gary K. Foote]

Thank you Bernd,

I just finished uploading a very nice slice of Tulia (b) with a great 'river' 
of FeNi at 
one end - also received from the Hupe' collection. 

http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/tulia2-2.html

Best,

Gary

On 7 Jan 2007 at 21:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello Gary and List,
> 
> > I just received and photographed this very nice slice of Forestburg (b) 
> > from the Hupe Collection...and this one is just beautiful  Shock stage
> > S5, weathering grade W1; the chondrite is shock blackened and contains
> > impact melt clasts. 
> 
> If you want to take a look it is here:
> 
> http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/forestburg2-6.html
> 
> Congratulations, Gary! Excellent choice!
> 
> Anyone who hasn't seen this beauty yet, should do so. Like Gary, I am one of 
> the happy
> owners of a beautiful Forestburg (b) slice. Forestburg (b) is much more 
> "handsome" than
> Forestburg (a). My Forestburg (a/b) slices are from M. Cottingham and when I 
> first saw
> Michael's Forestburg (b) pictures on EBay, I knew I had to own it. It still 
> is one of my
> all-time favorites with its grayish-black, fresh matrix, its abundant, evenly 
> distributed
> FeNi specks, and its grayish-white oval chondrules!
> 
> Although it is possible that the stone has been transported by water (rusty 
> brown,
> weathered fusion crust), it is so very fresh that it seems improbable that it 
> was exposed
> to water for a longer period of time.
> 
> Even though its Fa value of 25.8 puts it in the vicinity of the LL 
> chondrites, its low-Ca
> pyroxene composition (Fs21.6) is still within the range for L chondrites. 
> What a
> meteorite!
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Bernd
> 
> 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite

[MARK BOSTICK]

Re: http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/forestburg2-6.html

Hello Gary, Bernd and list,

Gary commented "I just received and photographed this very nice slice of 
Forestburg (b) from the Hupe'
Collection. Lately I've been focusing on widening my collection by 
purchasing smaller

specimens and this one is just beautiful."

Bernd replied "Like Gary, I am one of the happy
owners of a beautiful Forestburg (b) slice. Forestburg (b) is much more 
"handsome" than

Forestburg (a).

I agree with both of you.  Forestburg (b) is a very beautiful meteorite. 
Nice black matrix with green inclusions and scattered specks of metal. 
(Strange how common the color green is in black chondrites.) Forestburg (b) 
does look a lot better then Forestburg (a).  But between the two, Forestburg 
(a) does appear to be a little more weathered so perhaps we should handicap 
it a little…;^)


I look new photographs of my Forestburg (a) and (b) slices and have them 
loaded in the gallery of my website…linked below.


http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colforestburga.html

http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colforestburgb.html

A photograph from my Forestburg (b) thin section is shown here...

http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colforestburgbts.html

Clear Skies,
Mark Bostick
Wichita, Kansas
www.meteoritearticles.com


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Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite

[Gary K. Foote]

Beautiful Mark.  I have added a link to your thin section photo from my 
Forestburg (b) 
page - with proper credit of course.  Eventually I will be looking for larger 
specimens.  
Your full slices are just awesome.

Gary
http://www.meteorite-dealers.com

On 7 Jan 2007 at 22:21, MARK BOSTICK wrote:

> I look new photographs of my Forestburg (a) and (b) slices and have them
> loaded in the gallery of my website…linked below.
> 
> http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colforestburga.html
> 
> http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colforestburgb.html
> 
> A photograph from my Forestburg (b) thin section is shown here...
> 
> http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colforestburgbts.html



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Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite

[Zelimir Gabelica]

Hello Bernd, Gary, list

I completely agree with Bernd regarding the aesthetics of Forestburg (b).
I was lucky enough to acquire a 315 g complete slice in the old good times 
(1995) when such beauties were available here and there and their gram 
prices quite affordable. David New was, at that time, such a person, one of 
the most expertized meteorite dealers, a man full of knowledge, fairness, 
kindness and respect towards collectors. Bernd should not contradict me.
Regarding that slice of Forestburg (b), David told me one day something 
like "Zelimir, if you are a true collector, you must take that one". It was 
not listed for sale but rather a specific offer from David for a 
beginner-collector and friend. And, believe me, he did not push the sale 
for some profit as David first wanted our satisfaction.
In this case, mine was reached beyond all my expectations and I agreed to 
get it without even having a preliminary idea of its aspect, except a short 
description, because I just trusted my friend.

I have no pictures on hand to show you but here is a summary of its 
characteristics.
It is a 150 x 70 mm full slice, 15 mm thick. Both sides are neatly polished 
and show a black pattern, full of metal (Fe-Ni) spots, grains and islets, 
along with some schreibersite patches. It nicely contrasts with the thick 
red-brown crust well visible all around and carrying a painted number "M 
148.1b" (Monnig collection at TCU).
I don't remember having noticed any greenish inclusion (as, e.g., in "Belle 
Plaine" or "Lahoma", to cite 2 other meteorites that involve such 
inclusions ) but will check this later for sure.
Needless to say this slice remains as one of my collection master pieces.

The conclusion of this example is that sometimes one does not necessarily 
need some rare meteorite type to appreciate an odd pattern and that 
sometimes a simple L5 or H6 can offer some extraordinary fairy-like 
picture. I understand how Gary and Bernd did appreciate their acquisition 
of Forestburg (b).
The other, and perhaps even more rewarding conclusion is that you can 
sometimes get the "best of the best" by just trusting a genuine friend and 
his expertise, if you are lucky enough to know such a person. And I am sure 
such people are certainly still numerous around us, within our listthey 
should recognize themselves...

Best wishes,

Zelimir


A 21:46 07/01/2007 +, vous avez écrit :
>Hello Gary and List,
>
> > I just received and photographed this very nice slice of Forestburg (b)
> > from the Hupe Collection...and this one is just beautiful  Shock stage
> > S5, weathering grade W1; the chondrite is shock blackened and contains
> > impact melt clasts.
>
>If you want to take a look it is here:
>
>http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/forestburg2-6.html
>
>Congratulations, Gary! Excellent choice!
>
>Anyone who hasn't seen this beauty yet, should do so. Like Gary, I am one 
>of the happy
>owners of a beautiful Forestburg (b) slice. Forestburg (b) is much more 
>"handsome" than
>Forestburg (a). My Forestburg (a/b) slices are from M. Cottingham and when 
>I first saw
>Michael's Forestburg (b) pictures on EBay, I knew I had to own it. It 
>still is one of my
>all-time favorites with its grayish-black, fresh matrix, its abundant, 
>evenly distributed
>FeNi specks, and its grayish-white oval chondrules!
>
>Although it is possible that the stone has been transported by water 
>(rusty brown, weathered
>fusion crust), it is so very fresh that it seems improbable that it was 
>exposed to water for
>a longer period of time.
>
>Even though its Fa value of 25.8 puts it in the vicinity of the LL 
>chondrites, its low-Ca
>pyroxene composition (Fs21.6) is still within the range for L chondrites. 
>What a meteorite!
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Bernd
>
>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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3, Rue A. Werner,
F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France
Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94
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Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite

[Alexander Seidel]

I wonder if there is anyone out there who has collected all those price lists 
that David New used to send to his customers via airmail - which happened in 
the pre-internet times, of course. I would have to dig in my old files to still 
find a few of them, but may be someone out there has a more complete collection 
of the lists, with David´s very unique description of his offered pieces, 
"superb" always being top choice! :-) Bernd, I know you have many, if not all 
of these in your archives, at least for as long as you collect meteorites... 
These lists, if they were scanned and somehow made available via the net, would 
be a great show example of how things were in the later second half of the last 
century - I would even call it sort of "cultural heritage" with respect to the 
meteorite business.

I loved to communicate with David over many years, until he somehow disappeared 
from the (active) dealer scene and even in more recent times on a more private 
basis, and I hope he is still around at good health together with his wife 
Margaret. In the early Ninetees I once visited him at his home in Anacortes, 
Washington. A real gentleman, and great guy! PS: btw he was the first one to 
offer meteoritic thin sections to a wider public, and I am proud that most of 
my 150+ specimens have gone through his hands.

Alex
Berlin/Germany
  
 Original-Nachricht 
Datum: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 18:41:13 +0100
Von: Zelimir Gabelica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite

> Hello Bernd, Gary, list
> 
> I completely agree with Bernd regarding the aesthetics of Forestburg (b).
> I was lucky enough to acquire a 315 g complete slice in the old good times
> (1995) when such beauties were available here and there and their gram 
> prices quite affordable. David New was, at that time, such a person, one
> of 
> the most expertized meteorite dealers, a man full of knowledge, fairness, 
> kindness and respect towards collectors. Bernd should not contradict me.
> Regarding that slice of Forestburg (b), David told me one day something 
> like "Zelimir, if you are a true collector, you must take that one". It
> was 
> not listed for sale but rather a specific offer from David for a 
> beginner-collector and friend. And, believe me, he did not push the sale 
> for some profit as David first wanted our satisfaction.
> In this case, mine was reached beyond all my expectations and I agreed to 
> get it without even having a preliminary idea of its aspect, except a
> short 
> description, because I just trusted my friend.
> 
> I have no pictures on hand to show you but here is a summary of its 
> characteristics.
> It is a 150 x 70 mm full slice, 15 mm thick. Both sides are neatly
> polished 
> and show a black pattern, full of metal (Fe-Ni) spots, grains and islets, 
> along with some schreibersite patches. It nicely contrasts with the thick 
> red-brown crust well visible all around and carrying a painted number "M 
> 148.1b" (Monnig collection at TCU).
> I don't remember having noticed any greenish inclusion (as, e.g., in
> "Belle 
> Plaine" or "Lahoma", to cite 2 other meteorites that involve such 
> inclusions ) but will check this later for sure.
> Needless to say this slice remains as one of my collection master pieces.
> 
> The conclusion of this example is that sometimes one does not necessarily 
> need some rare meteorite type to appreciate an odd pattern and that 
> sometimes a simple L5 or H6 can offer some extraordinary fairy-like 
> picture. I understand how Gary and Bernd did appreciate their acquisition 
> of Forestburg (b).
> The other, and perhaps even more rewarding conclusion is that you can 
> sometimes get the "best of the best" by just trusting a genuine friend and
> his expertise, if you are lucky enough to know such a person. And I am
> sure 
> such people are certainly still numerous around us, within our
> listthey 
> should recognize themselves...
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Zelimir
> 
> 
> A 21:46 07/01/2007 +, vous avez écrit :
> >Hello Gary and List,
> >
> > > I just received and photographed this very nice slice of Forestburg
> (b)
> > > from the Hupe Collection...and this one is just beautiful  Shock stage
> > > S5, weathering grade W1; the chondrite is shock blackened and contains
> > > impact melt clasts.
> >
> >If you want to take a look it is here:
> >
> >http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/forestburg2-6.html
> >
> >Congratulations, Gary! Excellent choice!
> >
> >Anyone who hasn't seen this beauty yet, should do so. Like Gary, I am one
> >of the happy
> >

Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite

[Kashuba, Ontario, California]

Just this morning I mailed David a check for an Estherville Mesosiderite 
thin section.

- John

John Kashuba
Ontario, California

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To: "Zelimir Gabelica" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 

Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:03 AM
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I wonder if there is anyone out there who has collected all those price 
lists that David New used to send to his customers via airmail - which 
happened in the pre-internet times, of course. I would have to dig in my old 
files to still find a few of them, but may be someone out there has a more 
complete collection of the lists, with David´s very unique description of 
his offered pieces, "superb" always being top choice! :-) Bernd, I know you 
have many, if not all of these in your archives, at least for as long as you 
collect meteorites... These lists, if they were scanned and somehow made 
available via the net, would be a great show example of how things were in 
the later second half of the last century - I would even call it sort of 
"cultural heritage" with respect to the meteorite business.

I loved to communicate with David over many years, until he somehow 
disappeared from the (active) dealer scene and even in more recent times on 
a more private basis, and I hope he is still around at good health together 
with his wife Margaret. In the early Ninetees I once visited him at his home 
in Anacortes, Washington. A real gentleman, and great guy! PS: btw he was 
the first one to offer meteoritic thin sections to a wider public, and I am 
proud that most of my 150+ specimens have gone through his hands.

Alex
Berlin/Germany

 Original-Nachricht 
Datum: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 18:41:13 +0100
Von: Zelimir Gabelica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite

> Hello Bernd, Gary, list
>
> I completely agree with Bernd regarding the aesthetics of Forestburg (b).
> I was lucky enough to acquire a 315 g complete slice in the old good times
> (1995) when such beauties were available here and there and their gram
> prices quite affordable. David New was, at that time, such a person, one
> of
> the most expertized meteorite dealers, a man full of knowledge, fairness,
> kindness and respect towards collectors. Bernd should not contradict me.
> Regarding that slice of Forestburg (b), David told me one day something
> like "Zelimir, if you are a true collector, you must take that one". It
> was
> not listed for sale but rather a specific offer from David for a
> beginner-collector and friend. And, believe me, he did not push the sale
> for some profit as David first wanted our satisfaction.
> In this case, mine was reached beyond all my expectations and I agreed to
> get it without even having a preliminary idea of its aspect, except a
> short
> description, because I just trusted my friend.
>
> I have no pictures on hand to show you but here is a summary of its
> characteristics.
> It is a 150 x 70 mm full slice, 15 mm thick. Both sides are neatly
> polished
> and show a black pattern, full of metal (Fe-Ni) spots, grains and islets,
> along with some schreibersite patches. It nicely contrasts with the thick
> red-brown crust well visible all around and carrying a painted number "M
> 148.1b" (Monnig collection at TCU).
> I don't remember having noticed any greenish inclusion (as, e.g., in
> "Belle
> Plaine" or "Lahoma", to cite 2 other meteorites that involve such
> inclusions ) but will check this later for sure.
> Needless to say this slice remains as one of my collection master pieces.
>
> The conclusion of this example is that sometimes one does not necessarily
> need some rare meteorite type to appreciate an odd pattern and that
> sometimes a simple L5 or H6 can offer some extraordinary fairy-like
> picture. I understand how Gary and Bernd did appreciate their acquisition
> of Forestburg (b).
> The other, and perhaps even more rewarding conclusion is that you can
> sometimes get the "best of the best" by just trusting a genuine friend and
> his expertise, if you are lucky enough to know such a person. And I am
> sure
> such people are certainly still numerous around us, within our
> listthey
> should recognize themselves...
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Zelimir
>
>
> A 21:46 07/01/2007 +, vous avez écrit :
> >Hello Gary and List,
> >
> > > I just received and photographed this very nice slice of Forestburg
> (b)
> > > from the Hupe Collection...and this one is just beautiful  Shock stage
> > > S5, weathering grade W1; the chondrite is

Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite

[Martin Altmann]

Huh Uncle Alex,

don't forget to mention, that there is a place, where still today a lot of
those shrouded-in-legend-TSs are available.
At our Grande Dame Anne Black!

Your Nephew Martin


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An: Zelimir Gabelica; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite

I wonder if there is anyone out there who has collected all those price
lists that David New used to send to his customers via airmail - which
happened in the pre-internet times, of course. I would have to dig in my old
files to still find a few of them, but may be someone out there has a more
complete collection of the lists, with David´s very unique description of
his offered pieces, "superb" always being top choice! :-) Bernd, I know you
have many, if not all of these in your archives, at least for as long as you
collect meteorites... These lists, if they were scanned and somehow made
available via the net, would be a great show example of how things were in
the later second half of the last century - I would even call it sort of
"cultural heritage" with respect to the meteorite business.

I loved to communicate with David over many years, until he somehow
disappeared from the (active) dealer scene and even in more recent times on
a more private basis, and I hope he is still around at good health together
with his wife Margaret. In the early Ninetees I once visited him at his home
in Anacortes, Washington. A real gentleman, and great guy! PS: btw he was
the first one to offer meteoritic thin sections to a wider public, and I am
proud that most of my 150+ specimens have gone through his hands.

Alex
Berlin/Germany
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite

[Alexander Seidel]

I know, my dear nephew, I know too well!!!:-)

Well some of these days some special orders from me will surely go out again, 
Your dear uncle Alex
 
...But tell me: why, nephew, don´t YOU ever sell/collect thin sections?

[Well folks, nothing but a little insider joking here...:-)]


> Huh Uncle Alex,
> 
> don't forget to mention, that there is a place, where still today a lot of
> those shrouded-in-legend-TSs are available.
> At our Grande Dame Anne Black!
> 
> Your Nephew Martin
> 
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von
> Alexander Seidel
> Gesendet: Montag, 8. Januar 2007 19:04
> An: Zelimir Gabelica; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite
> 
> I wonder if there is anyone out there who has collected all those price
> lists that David New used to send to his customers via airmail - which
> happened in the pre-internet times, of course. I would have to dig in my
> old
> files to still find a few of them, but may be someone out there has a more
> complete collection of the lists, with David´s very unique description of
> his offered pieces, "superb" always being top choice! :-) Bernd, I know
> you
> have many, if not all of these in your archives, at least for as long as
> you
> collect meteorites... These lists, if they were scanned and somehow made
> available via the net, would be a great show example of how things were in
> the later second half of the last century - I would even call it sort of
> "cultural heritage" with respect to the meteorite business.
> 
> I loved to communicate with David over many years, until he somehow
> disappeared from the (active) dealer scene and even in more recent times
> on
> a more private basis, and I hope he is still around at good health
> together
> with his wife Margaret. In the early Ninetees I once visited him at his
> home
> in Anacortes, Washington. A real gentleman, and great guy! PS: btw he was
> the first one to offer meteoritic thin sections to a wider public, and I
> am
> proud that most of my 150+ specimens have gone through his hands.
> 
> Alex
> Berlin/Germany
>   
> meteorite-list
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite

[Martin Altmann]

But Dearest Uncle,

to ask a meteorite dealer, why he doesn't collect thin sections, would be
similar to ask a Formula-1-pilot if he had noticed the pattern of the petals
of the orchids at the roadside.
To enjoy TS one needs leisure and time, a meteorite dealer hasn't.

To sell TS would be no good idea. As you should know, 80% of all
TS-collectors prefer strictly TS from the mentioned source and condemn all
other TS who don't carry that brand emblem a priori and without having seen
them as to be of minor quality. (Yep you could offer them even a David New
TS without telling and they would refuse).
And as there aren't so much specialized collectors, it simply would be quite
a loss...

But quiet now, I'm allowing myself a luxurious moment and am admiring the
incredible micrographs of Tom Philips!

And you should too!
Nephew Buckleboo



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Von: Alexander Seidel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Gesendet: Montag, 8. Januar 2007 21:13
An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite

I know, my dear nephew, I know too well!!!:-)

Well some of these days some special orders from me will surely go out
again, Your dear uncle Alex
 
...But tell me: why, nephew, don´t YOU ever sell/collect thin sections?

[Well folks, nothing but a little insider joking here...:-)]


> Huh Uncle Alex,
> 
> don't forget to mention, that there is a place, where still today a lot of
> those shrouded-in-legend-TSs are available.
> At our Grande Dame Anne Black!
> 
> Your Nephew Martin
> 
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von
> Alexander Seidel
> Gesendet: Montag, 8. Januar 2007 19:04
> An: Zelimir Gabelica; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite
> 
> I wonder if there is anyone out there who has collected all those price
> lists that David New used to send to his customers via airmail - which
> happened in the pre-internet times, of course. I would have to dig in my
> old
> files to still find a few of them, but may be someone out there has a more
> complete collection of the lists, with David´s very unique description of
> his offered pieces, "superb" always being top choice! :-) Bernd, I know
> you
> have many, if not all of these in your archives, at least for as long as
> you
> collect meteorites... These lists, if they were scanned and somehow made
> available via the net, would be a great show example of how things were in
> the later second half of the last century - I would even call it sort of
> "cultural heritage" with respect to the meteorite business.
> 
> I loved to communicate with David over many years, until he somehow
> disappeared from the (active) dealer scene and even in more recent times
> on
> a more private basis, and I hope he is still around at good health
> together
> with his wife Margaret. In the early Ninetees I once visited him at his
> home
> in Anacortes, Washington. A real gentleman, and great guy! PS: btw he was
> the first one to offer meteoritic thin sections to a wider public, and I
> am
> proud that most of my 150+ specimens have gone through his hands.
> 
> Alex
> Berlin/Germany
>   
> meteorite-list
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite

[Alexander Seidel]

> But Dearest Uncle,

My Dear Nephew,

> To sell TS would be no good idea. As you should know, 80% of all
> TS-collectors prefer strictly TS from the mentioned source and condemn 
> all other TS who don't carry that brand emblem a priori and without 
> having seen them as to be of minor quality.

I believe it is only but a handful of us oldtimers knowing one of "the real 
sources" (i.e. the one you mean as the manufacturer) for thin sections, and 
willing to pay a bit more for quality, which always, I mean ALWAYS counts in 
the end... :-)

Look at Ebay - you will usually see a lot of cheap crappy sections offered 
there for comparably little money, and I believe, many thin section enthusiasts 
still have to learn that quality makes a difference!  

> But quiet now, I'm allowing myself a luxurious moment and am admiring the
> incredible micrographs of Tom Philips!

These are great - immediately agreed!

> Nephew Buckleboo

Yours very truly,
Uncle Alex
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Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite

[STARSANDSCOPES]

Hi Martin and list.  I wrote a piece for  Meteorite Magazine about good and 
garbage thins.  I agree, you get what you  pay for.  Most cheap thins would be 
useful for a micro mount collection but  should go nowhere near a microscope.

One exception is Ivan  Koutyrev.  He has sold thins on eBay cheap and they 
are among the best I  have worked with.  I think he has them made at a 
university in St.  Petersburg.  Ivan has some stories we all would love to 
hear.  I 
heard  he spent last summer in an Oman jail for legally collecting and just 
drew 
the  attention of the wrong person.

Tom  

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[meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite - Santa Vitoria

[Impactika]

In a message dated 1/8/2007 12:45:42 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Many thanks Bernd!

The picture is  wonderful indeed.

Upon checking my collection catalog, I note having also  got a thin section 
of the same meteorite (David New, 1998).
However, I  also note I sold that slice (and many others for which I had the 
real  meteorite represented in collection) to my friend Roger Warin 
(enthroned  Ensisheim 2006) who, as expert scientist, recently fell in love 
for  meteorite thin sections and "all what is behind".
Roger is especially  becoming keen in taking micrographs of TS' under 
polarized light.
As a  recent list member, Roger is certainly reading this post and I can bet 
he  can provide us rapidly a picture of that Forestburg(b) thin section. If 
not  done yet, I am even more sure he is willing to do it...tonight (I well 
know  Roger's passions...).
Eh, Roger ?
(Story to be continued).

By the  way, I also note I have a second slice of Forestburg (b) in 
collection. Got  from Blaine Reed (another very nice and honest guy) in 1998.
It is a 127.4 g  part slice, 100x55x4 mm, black, lots of metal and some 
light gray  chondrules.
I can't say more as I am only reading the description in my  catalog. If I 
retained it in colection means that it definitely shown  something different 
than my big slice.
I will have a closed look next  week and tell you more. Gary or Mark might 
be anxious to know whether there  are some greenish spots around  ?

Zelimir
---
 
And here is another one:  _http://www.impactika.com/catpix/DE036.jpg_ 
(http://www.impactika.com/catpix/DE036.jpg) 
 
I am sorry I don't have a thin-section of Forestburg B right now, but I  
might consider getting some done in the near future.
 
Thanks Bernd for letting me know that your Santa Vitoria finally got  there 
and that you like it. If you would like more snow, just say so, we still  have 
plenty here. 

And thin-sections of Santa Vitoria are already in the making! I can give  you 
a bit of a preview of what they will show. Here is the picture of the slice  
that has been cut, and the corner being used for the thin-sections, lots of  
chondrules there. It should make for a few interesting  thin-sections:   
_http://www.impactika.com/AB224ts.jpg_ (http://www.impactika.com/AB224ts.jpg) 

And Zelimir, Alex, Mike Martinez was working at archiving all those old  
price-lists a while back. I don't know if he is still working on that, but 
maybe  
he will respond on the List.

Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
President,  I.M.C.A. Inc.
www.IMCA.cc
 
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[meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite - A Fairy Tale

[bernd . pauli]

Gary wrote: If you want to take a look [at Gary's slice] it is here:

http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/forestburg2-6.html

Mark writes: A photograph from my Forestburg (b) thin section is shown here:

http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colforestburgbts.html 

Zélimir writes:

"...sometimes a simple L5 or H6 can offer some extraordinary fairy-like 
picture. I understand how Gary and Bernd did appreciate their acquisition 
of Forestburg (b)."

Hello Zélimir, Gary, Mark B. and List,

There is one such "fairy-like" chondrule in my Forestburg (b) thin section.
It features a prominent polysomatic megachondrule measuring 5 millimeters in
largest dimension. It is a complex, oval, barred olivine-pyroxene chondrule
and displays stunning interference colors of purple, pink, blue, yellow, orange
and turquoise under crossed polars. What a masterpiece by Mother Nature!

Best wishes,

Bernd

P.S.: Thin section pic attached for Zélimir, Gary, and Mark!

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Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite - A Fairy Tale

[Zelimir Gabelica]

Many thanks Bernd!

The picture is wonderful indeed.

Upon checking my collection catalog, I note having also got a thin section 
of the same meteorite (David New, 1998).
However, I also note I sold that slice (and many others for which I had the 
real meteorite represented in collection) to my friend Roger Warin 
(enthroned Ensisheim 2006) who, as expert scientist, recently fell in love 
for meteorite thin sections and "all what is behind".
Roger is especially becoming keen in taking micrographs of TS' under 
polarized light.
As a recent list member, Roger is certainly reading this post and I can bet 
he can provide us rapidly a picture of that Forestburg(b) thin section. If 
not done yet, I am even more sure he is willing to do it...tonight (I well 
know Roger's passions...).
Eh, Roger ?
(Story to be continued).

By the way, I also note I have a second slice of Forestburg (b) in 
collection. Got from Blaine Reed (another very nice and honest guy) in 1998.
It is a 127.4 g part slice, 100x55x4 mm, black, lots of metal and some 
light gray chondrules.
I can't say more as I am only reading the description in my catalog. If I 
retained it in colection means that it definitely shown something different 
than my big slice.
I will have a closed look next week and tell you more. Gary or Mark might 
be anxious to know whether there are some greenish spots around ?

Zelimir


A 19:05 08/01/2007 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
>Gary wrote: If you want to take a look [at Gary's slice] it is here:
>
>http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/forestburg2-6.html
>
>Mark writes: A photograph from my Forestburg (b) thin section is shown here:
>
>http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colforestburgbts.html
>
>Zélimir writes:
>
>"...sometimes a simple L5 or H6 can offer some extraordinary fairy-like
>picture. I understand how Gary and Bernd did appreciate their acquisition
>of Forestburg (b)."
>
>Hello Zélimir, Gary, Mark B. and List,
>
>There is one such "fairy-like" chondrule in my Forestburg (b) thin section.
>It features a prominent polysomatic megachondrule measuring 5 millimeters in
>largest dimension. It is a complex, oval, barred olivine-pyroxene chondrule
>and displays stunning interference colors of purple, pink, blue, yellow, 
>orange
>and turquoise under crossed polars. What a masterpiece by Mother Nature!
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Bernd
>
>P.S.: Thin section pic attached for Zélimir, Gary, and Mark!
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite - A Fairy Tale

[MARK BOSTICK]

Hello Bernd, Gary, Zelimir and fellow chondrite enthusiasts,

Bernd noted "There is one such "fairy-like" chondrule in my Forestburg (b) 
thin section. It features a prominent polysomatic megachondrule measuring 5 
millimeters in largest dimension. It is a complex, oval, barred 
olivine-pyroxene chondrule and displays stunning interference colors of 
purple, pink, blue, yellow, orange and turquoise under crossed polars. What 
a masterpiece by Mother Nature!

I have temporarily placed Bernd's Forestburg (b) thin section photograph on 
my coin website (that site is much smaller and easier to load/upload), so 
that others could see what Bernd was referring to:

http://www.coinandstampman.com/ebayauctionphotos\FORESTBURG-05TSX32-01.jpg



Very nice Bernd.  I appreciate the extra effort you put in your TS images 
with the reference notes. One of these days I should start doing such.

Zelimir also noted; "I will have a closed look next week and tell you more. 
Gary or Mark might be anxious to know whether there are some greenish spots 
around?"

It's also nice to see and read others describe or show their meteorites, we 
look forward to your future comments Zelimir.

Thanks Gary for starting this interesting thread.

Clear Skies,
Mark Bostick
www.meteoritearticles.com


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