RE: [meteorite-list] Hot Desert Meteorites

2002-02-16 Thread Matteo Chinellato

Hello all

I no have problems, I collect all meteorites, is this
NWA, DaG's, Sahara etchistorical, fall's, found's
etcbut no like the prices of the meteorites go in
ruin. I repeat, is no possible a CR2, year ago minimum
you buy for $200/gr. now you pay under $30/gr., under
this way the total market go to the ruin. If I buy a
CR2 from a moroccan person for only $8/gr. - example -
is good for me, but I no sale this for $16/gr., I sale
for $150 or $200. Under this way, at few time you find
lunars for a price of a rare eucrite - type $300/gr. -
and SNC for a normaly achondrite, and this is no good.
Regards

matteo

--- Rhett Bourland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I couldn't agree more with Bernd's statements here
 concerning people always
 worrying and bickering about prices of meteorites. 
 Plain and simple, how
 much is a certain meteorite worth?  However much
 someone will pay for it.
 You don't get much more of an open market than with
 meteorites.  I recently
 bought a piece of Lodran (thanks Steve Arnold!) that
 cost a bit more than
 I'm used to spending.  Commercially speaking, was it
 worth it?  Probally not
 but I really don't care because I didn't have any of
 this type of meteorite
 in my collection.  Am I going to get angry at Steve
 because he charged a lot
 for it and call him greedy and say he's just so evil
 for it?  OF COURSE
 NOT!!!  I gave him a little more money than I would
 have prefferred but much
 much much more importantly I got a piece of this
 rare meteorite that I've
 been wanting for quite some time.  Hey, for all
 that, I'm actually happy to
 kick in a little bit of a reward for him there for
 getting such an amazing
 and rare meteorite.
 I'm mostly a collector but do sell a few meteorites
 from time to time and
 have some on my asteroidmodels.com site right now. 
 Admittedly, some of them
 are rather pricey but others are right at market
 value (market value being
 what I see most other people charging) if not below
 it.  For obvious reasons
 I don't want to go into details about how much or
 how I aquired all of these
 but I will say that some of my larger proffits have
 come from meteorites
 that sold out in a day or two.  Am I evil and greedy
 because I made a decent
 proffit from them?  I don't think so because the
 people that bought them
 certainly seemed happy enough to have the pieces I
 sold them even though
 they may have payed a bit more than the average
 meteorite.  In fact, some of
 the people who bought them have also bought some of
 the other meteorites
 that I've had for sale and they always seem happy
 enough to just have the
 meteorites that they get.
 My point in this email is this; if you're going to
 argue about anything
 concerning the NWA's argue about lack of a detailed
 recovery vs. volume of
 meteorites now in our collective possessions.  Don't
 argue about who's the
 greedier dealer.  Its simple, A meteorite, any
 meteorite be it NWA or
 classic historical fall of an extremely rare type,
 is worth however much
 someone will pay for it.  If you think a meteorite
 costs too much don't buy
 it.  Some of the pricier pieces in my collection I'm
 sure dealers have made
 some pretty good money off of me but I really
 couldn't care less because
 that just means that I have another wonderful rock
 from another world that I
 wouldn't be able to own without them.
 My 2 cents,
 Rhett Bourland
 www.asteroidmodels.com
 www.asteroidmodels.com/personal
 www.meteoritecollectors.org
 
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 Luc a écrit:
 
  ... and about the NWA, those returned recently
 from Marocco
  say that the quantity they saw in not so bigger
 that before.
 
 
 Bonjour Luc, Hello List,
 
 I was just reading Christian Pinter's article about
 the 2001 Mineral and
 Gem Show in Munic in Meteorite, Feb 2002, Vol. 8,
 No. 1, pp. 38-39,
 when your post arrived here. There are three remarks
 in Christian's
 article that I would like to share with all of us:
 
 1. Bruno:
 
 But today there is only one tenth of what
 had been found in Morocco two years ago.
 
 2. Ahmed Pani:
 
 There is really less material coming from the
 Sahara now.
 
 3. Erich Haiderer:
 
 There is still enough out there for decades to
 come.
 
  For me there are not good or bad meteorites, there
 are well documented or
  poorly documented meteorites, well preserved or
 weathered meteorites, nice
  or bad looking meteorites and scientifically
 important or not meteorites,
 with
  all the intermediate states.
 
 I absolutely agree with the above words! Very often
 conversations about
 our love for meteorites oscillate between how
 exotic, common, or
 historical they are, and, on the other hand we
 complain (!) about the
 decreasing prices and monetary values of our Hot

RE: [meteorite-list] Hot Desert Meteorites

2002-02-16 Thread Tracy Latimer

I agree 100%.  Meteorites are worth what you're willing to pay for them,
and if you're in it not for the love of these heavenly messengers but to
speculate, don't be surprised if your investments periodically go south.
I just bought a crumb of a meteorite (Honolulu) that I had been wishing
for for a LONG time.  I paid more than someone else would have (I KNOW I
did, I bought it on ebay!) but now I have a very special meteorite and am
happy to have it.

Tracy Latimer


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RE: [meteorite-list] Hot Desert Meteorites

2002-02-16 Thread Greg Redfern

Steve,

  Well said yourself and thank you for your public outreach to the next
generation of collectors, dealers and tax payers. I just hope that our
fellow list members are doing the same. It is a worthy investment of time
and a great use for those ol' unclassified NWAs!

Regards,
Greg Redfern
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Greg, Bernd, and list,

Nicely said. I echo your words and would like to add that I have acquired a
number of no name / no coordinates NWA's the last couple of years. And
while I would love to own a pricey SNC or Lunar sample that is larger than a
Corn Flake, budget restraints dictate otherwise.

Yes...it's too bad that many NWA's will go unclassified, will never see the
inside of a Meteoritical Bulletin, and may be the orphaned child of the
classified / pedigreed specimens. But when you go to class of third graders
and talk about the wonderful mysteries of meteorites,  do they really care
about location coordinates, complex petrology classifications? And for that
matter, would one want to bring a pricey Camel Donga or Allende to the class
for all to touch and feel?

That's the beauty of the NWA's. They're cheapthey can be touched,
carressed, picked at, dropped, licked, by the students, and did I mention
cheap? Best of allthey're meteorites. The sample you bring to
class...can
stay with the class.

That is why I think the much maligned unclassified NWA's have their place.
Every science classroom, whether elementary, middle school, of high school
in
our nation should have a meteorite. Cheap NWA's could make that a reality.
(sorry...starting to sound like a politician's platform)

Best to all,

Steven L. Sachshttp://www.geocities.com/gangwise/meteorite.html

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Re: [meteorite-list] Hot Desert Meteorites

2002-02-16 Thread Sharkkb8

 
Rhett:

 A meteorite, any meteorite be it NWA or classic historical fall of an 
extremely rare type, is worth however much someone will pay for it. 


Careful.  I made exactly the same observation a year or so ago, and ended up 
in a much-too-long dialog with a DEALER (believe it or not) who vehemently 
disputed this seemingly self-evident statement.   

Gregory

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Re: [meteorite-list] Hot Desert Meteorites

2002-02-16 Thread Meteoriteman

Right now Keith V.  (the arizona Viking) is Laughing REAL HARD!
jake


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