Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !

2008-12-15 Thread Martin Altmann
A knight in a rusty armour is better than a rogue in a golden robe.
 
IMCA-labels reduce the probability especially for the beginners to fall for
such sellers like the Minors, de Russes, Lindforses, Evanses,
floridacoasters of the world and the Far-East-fakes-sellers... remarkably.

Good day.
Martin

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Bob
Evans
Gesendet: Montag, 15. Dezember 2008 12:58
An: M come Meteorite Meteorites
Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !

Thank you Matteo,

There are many others that agree with you that just choose not to speak up 
here on list.
- Original Message - 
From: M come Meteorite Meteorites i...@mcomemeteorite.it
To: bobe5...@comcast.net
Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !


I have buy only one time from Bob Evans and all its go ok
 with no problems. For IMCA I agree with the words

 Some of the most
 respectable people in the business never  have and never
 will be a member of the IMCA.


 this is right, many meteorite dealers is not IMCA member and
 they sale with no problems and its honestly. What I have say
 to a IMCA member time ago: a Logo - IMCA logo - not confirm
 if you are honestly or a good dealer. I am a ex IMCA member
 and I am kick off from this why I I had battle with Farmer,
 but for me is not a problem, I not cry if I not have a IMCA
 logo.

 Matteo

 - Original Message -
 Da : Bob Evans bobe5...@comcast.net
 A : Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au
 Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining
 armour !
 Data : Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:18:37 -0600

 Oh Thanks Bob,

 Believe it or not I have many happy customers who continue
 to make  purchases. And now that my customer base is
 shrinking thanks to all the  conjecture that is strewn
 about this forum, some of them will be getting  some great
 deals on my auctions. IMCA is a joke. Some of the most
 respectable people in the business never  have and never
 will be a member of the IMCA.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au
 To: Meteorite meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:51 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining
 armour !


  Listoids
 
  Heaven forbid !
 
  The alleged guardian of our sacred community condoning
  the sale of Mekong  Iron
 
  It isn't the first or last time that Listoids have been
  unhappy with  IMCA...
 
  I'd like to hear from other Listoids who have had
  disagreements with  IMCA - I'm beginning to take the
  view that there is a bad odour to IMCA  ( ? by dealers
  for dealers ?) - tho I'm still acutely aware of the
 excellent work done by many IMCA members 
  At least it will take the heat off Bob EVANS for a while
 
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !

2008-12-15 Thread Martin Altmann
Ooops,

of course I don't mean inhabitants of coastal Florida :-)

It was that incident, when on ebay several auctions were held by a seller,
whose ID was floridacoaster or so,
who sold forged Dhofar-lunaites, not only with an invented legend, but with
falsified certificates of the Institute of Planetology in Muenster,
and the finder of that Dhofar number told too, that other than the story,
the seller told, he never was selling material to him.

Unfortunately a list member - although warned - distributed some of that
material - in his freebies actions.

Best!
Martin

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Greg Hupe [mailto:gmh...@htn.net] 
Gesendet: Montag, 15. Dezember 2008 15:51
An: Martin Altmann
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !

Hello Martin and List,

Martin wrote,
IMCA-labels reduce the probability especially for the beginners to fall for
such sellers like the Minors, de Russes, Lindforses, Evanses,
floridacoasters of the world and the Far-East-fakes-sellers... remarkably.

Please clarify who you refer to by floridacoasters. I presume you refer to

Stan and not one of the several Florida meteorite collectors/dealers like 
myself.

Best regards,
Greg


Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
NaturesVault (eBay)
gmh...@htn.net
www.LunarRock.com
IMCA 3163

Click here for my current eBay auctions: 
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault



- Original Message - 
From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !


A knight in a rusty armour is better than a rogue in a golden robe.

IMCA-labels reduce the probability especially for the beginners to fall for
such sellers like the Minors, de Russes, Lindforses, Evanses,
floridacoasters of the world and the Far-East-fakes-sellers... remarkably.

Good day.
Martin

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Bob
Evans
Gesendet: Montag, 15. Dezember 2008 12:58
An: M come Meteorite Meteorites
Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !

Thank you Matteo,

There are many others that agree with you that just choose not to speak up
here on list.
- Original Message - 
From: M come Meteorite Meteorites i...@mcomemeteorite.it
To: bobe5...@comcast.net
Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !


I have buy only one time from Bob Evans and all its go ok
 with no problems. For IMCA I agree with the words

 Some of the most
 respectable people in the business never  have and never
 will be a member of the IMCA.


 this is right, many meteorite dealers is not IMCA member and
 they sale with no problems and its honestly. What I have say
 to a IMCA member time ago: a Logo - IMCA logo - not confirm
 if you are honestly or a good dealer. I am a ex IMCA member
 and I am kick off from this why I I had battle with Farmer,
 but for me is not a problem, I not cry if I not have a IMCA
 logo.

 Matteo

 - Original Message -
 Da : Bob Evans bobe5...@comcast.net
 A : Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au
 Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining
 armour !
 Data : Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:18:37 -0600

 Oh Thanks Bob,

 Believe it or not I have many happy customers who continue
 to make  purchases. And now that my customer base is
 shrinking thanks to all the  conjecture that is strewn
 about this forum, some of them will be getting  some great
 deals on my auctions. IMCA is a joke. Some of the most
 respectable people in the business never  have and never
 will be a member of the IMCA.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au
 To: Meteorite meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:51 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining
 armour !


  Listoids
 
  Heaven forbid !
 
  The alleged guardian of our sacred community condoning
  the sale of Mekong  Iron
 
  It isn't the first or last time that Listoids have been
  unhappy with  IMCA...
 
  I'd like to hear from other Listoids who have had
  disagreements with  IMCA - I'm beginning to take the
  view that there is a bad odour to IMCA  ( ? by dealers
  for dealers ?) - tho I'm still acutely aware of the
 excellent work done by many IMCA members 
  At least it will take the heat off Bob EVANS for a while
 
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !

2008-12-15 Thread Greg Hupe

Hi Martin,

Thanks for the clarification. I somewhat remember that incident where 
someone was selling fakes, and the other rip-off artist, who actually is on 
the coast.


Best regards,
Greg



- Original Message - 
From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !


Ooops,

of course I don't mean inhabitants of coastal Florida :-)

It was that incident, when on ebay several auctions were held by a seller,
whose ID was floridacoaster or so,
who sold forged Dhofar-lunaites, not only with an invented legend, but with
falsified certificates of the Institute of Planetology in Muenster,
and the finder of that Dhofar number told too, that other than the story,
the seller told, he never was selling material to him.

Unfortunately a list member - although warned - distributed some of that
material - in his freebies actions.

Best!
Martin

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Greg Hupe [mailto:gmh...@htn.net]
Gesendet: Montag, 15. Dezember 2008 15:51
An: Martin Altmann
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !

Hello Martin and List,

Martin wrote,
IMCA-labels reduce the probability especially for the beginners to fall for
such sellers like the Minors, de Russes, Lindforses, Evanses,
floridacoasters of the world and the Far-East-fakes-sellers... remarkably.

Please clarify who you refer to by floridacoasters. I presume you refer to

Stan and not one of the several Florida meteorite collectors/dealers like
myself.

Best regards,
Greg


Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
NaturesVault (eBay)
gmh...@htn.net
www.LunarRock.com
IMCA 3163

Click here for my current eBay auctions:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault



- Original Message - 
From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !


A knight in a rusty armour is better than a rogue in a golden robe.

IMCA-labels reduce the probability especially for the beginners to fall for
such sellers like the Minors, de Russes, Lindforses, Evanses,
floridacoasters of the world and the Far-East-fakes-sellers... remarkably.

Good day.
Martin

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Bob
Evans
Gesendet: Montag, 15. Dezember 2008 12:58
An: M come Meteorite Meteorites
Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !

Thank you Matteo,

There are many others that agree with you that just choose not to speak up
here on list.
- Original Message - 
From: M come Meteorite Meteorites i...@mcomemeteorite.it

To: bobe5...@comcast.net
Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !



I have buy only one time from Bob Evans and all its go ok
with no problems. For IMCA I agree with the words

Some of the most

respectable people in the business never  have and never
will be a member of the IMCA.



this is right, many meteorite dealers is not IMCA member and
they sale with no problems and its honestly. What I have say
to a IMCA member time ago: a Logo - IMCA logo - not confirm
if you are honestly or a good dealer. I am a ex IMCA member
and I am kick off from this why I I had battle with Farmer,
but for me is not a problem, I not cry if I not have a IMCA
logo.

Matteo

- Original Message -
Da : Bob Evans bobe5...@comcast.net
A : Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au
Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining
armour !
Data : Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:18:37 -0600


Oh Thanks Bob,

Believe it or not I have many happy customers who continue
to make  purchases. And now that my customer base is
shrinking thanks to all the  conjecture that is strewn
about this forum, some of them will be getting  some great
deals on my auctions. IMCA is a joke. Some of the most
respectable people in the business never  have and never
will be a member of the IMCA.

- Original Message - 
From: Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au

To: Meteorite meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:51 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining
armour !


 Listoids

 Heaven forbid !

 The alleged guardian of our sacred community condoning
 the sale of Mekong  Iron

 It isn't the first or last time that Listoids have been
 unhappy with  IMCA...

 I'd like to hear from other Listoids who have had
 disagreements with  IMCA - I'm beginning to take the
 view that there is a bad odour to IMCA  ( ? by dealers
 for dealers ?) - tho

Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !

2008-12-15 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
I seen De Russe and Co. its the same on internet sale theyr
fakes, IMCA or not IMCA. They are not vanished forever.

Matteo

- Original Message -
Da : Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de
A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining
armour !
Data : Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:40:29 +0100

 A knight in a rusty armour is better than a rogue in a
 golden robe.
  
 IMCA-labels reduce the probability especially for the
 beginners to fall for such sellers like the Minors, de
 Russes, Lindforses, Evanses, floridacoasters of the world
 and the Far-East-fakes-sellers... remarkably.
 
 Good day.
 Martin
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im
 Auftrag von Bob Evans
 Gesendet: Montag, 15. Dezember 2008 12:58
 An: M come Meteorite Meteorites
 Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining
 armour !
 
 Thank you Matteo,
 
 There are many others that agree with you that just choose
 not to speak up  here on list.
 - Original Message - 
 From: M come Meteorite Meteorites
 i...@mcomemeteorite.it To: bobe5...@comcast.net
 Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining
 armour !
 
 
 I have buy only one time from Bob Evans and all its go ok
  with no problems. For IMCA I agree with the words
 
  Some of the most
  respectable people in the business never  have and
 never  will be a member of the IMCA.
 
 
  this is right, many meteorite dealers is not IMCA member
  and they sale with no problems and its honestly. What I
  have say to a IMCA member time ago: a Logo - IMCA logo -
  not confirm if you are honestly or a good dealer. I am a
  ex IMCA member and I am kick off from this why I I had
  battle with Farmer, but for me is not a problem, I not
  cry if I not have a IMCA logo.
 
  Matteo
 
  - Original Message -
  Da : Bob Evans bobe5...@comcast.net
  A : Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au
  Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in
  shining armour !
  Data : Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:18:37 -0600
 
  Oh Thanks Bob,
 
  Believe it or not I have many happy customers who
 continue  to make  purchases. And now that my customer
 base is  shrinking thanks to all the  conjecture that is
 strewn  about this forum, some of them will be getting 
 some great  deals on my auctions. IMCA is a joke. Some
 of the most  respectable people in the business never 
 have and never  will be a member of the IMCA.
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au
  To: Meteorite meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:51 PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining
  armour !
 
 
   Listoids
  
   Heaven forbid !
  
   The alleged guardian of our sacred community
 condoning   the sale of Mekong  Iron
  
   It isn't the first or last time that Listoids have
 been   unhappy with  IMCA...
  
   I'd like to hear from other Listoids who have had
   disagreements with  IMCA - I'm beginning to take
 the   view that there is a bad odour to IMCA  ( ? by
 dealers   for dealers ?) - tho I'm still acutely aware
 of the  excellent work done by many IMCA members 
   At least it will take the heat off Bob EVANS for a
 while  
  
  
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !

2008-12-15 Thread Bob Evans

Thank you Matteo,

There are many others that agree with you that just choose not to speak up 
here on list.
- Original Message - 
From: M come Meteorite Meteorites i...@mcomemeteorite.it

To: bobe5...@comcast.net
Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !



I have buy only one time from Bob Evans and all its go ok
with no problems. For IMCA I agree with the words

Some of the most

respectable people in the business never  have and never
will be a member of the IMCA.



this is right, many meteorite dealers is not IMCA member and
they sale with no problems and its honestly. What I have say
to a IMCA member time ago: a Logo - IMCA logo - not confirm
if you are honestly or a good dealer. I am a ex IMCA member
and I am kick off from this why I I had battle with Farmer,
but for me is not a problem, I not cry if I not have a IMCA
logo.

Matteo

- Original Message -
Da : Bob Evans bobe5...@comcast.net
A : Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au
Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining
armour !
Data : Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:18:37 -0600


Oh Thanks Bob,

Believe it or not I have many happy customers who continue
to make  purchases. And now that my customer base is
shrinking thanks to all the  conjecture that is strewn
about this forum, some of them will be getting  some great
deals on my auctions. IMCA is a joke. Some of the most
respectable people in the business never  have and never
will be a member of the IMCA.

- Original Message - 
From: Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au

To: Meteorite meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:51 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining
armour !


 Listoids

 Heaven forbid !

 The alleged guardian of our sacred community condoning
 the sale of Mekong  Iron

 It isn't the first or last time that Listoids have been
 unhappy with  IMCA...

 I'd like to hear from other Listoids who have had
 disagreements with  IMCA - I'm beginning to take the
 view that there is a bad odour to IMCA  ( ? by dealers
 for dealers ?) - tho I'm still acutely aware of the
excellent work done by many IMCA members 
 At least it will take the heat off Bob EVANS for a while




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Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !

2008-12-15 Thread Greg Hupe

Hello Martin and List,

Martin wrote,
IMCA-labels reduce the probability especially for the beginners to fall for
such sellers like the Minors, de Russes, Lindforses, Evanses,
floridacoasters of the world and the Far-East-fakes-sellers... remarkably.

Please clarify who you refer to by floridacoasters. I presume you refer to 
Stan and not one of the several Florida meteorite collectors/dealers like 
myself.


Best regards,
Greg


Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
NaturesVault (eBay)
gmh...@htn.net
www.LunarRock.com
IMCA 3163

Click here for my current eBay auctions: 
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault




- Original Message - 
From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !


A knight in a rusty armour is better than a rogue in a golden robe.

IMCA-labels reduce the probability especially for the beginners to fall for
such sellers like the Minors, de Russes, Lindforses, Evanses,
floridacoasters of the world and the Far-East-fakes-sellers... remarkably.

Good day.
Martin

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Bob
Evans
Gesendet: Montag, 15. Dezember 2008 12:58
An: M come Meteorite Meteorites
Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !

Thank you Matteo,

There are many others that agree with you that just choose not to speak up
here on list.
- Original Message - 
From: M come Meteorite Meteorites i...@mcomemeteorite.it

To: bobe5...@comcast.net
Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !



I have buy only one time from Bob Evans and all its go ok
with no problems. For IMCA I agree with the words

Some of the most

respectable people in the business never  have and never
will be a member of the IMCA.



this is right, many meteorite dealers is not IMCA member and
they sale with no problems and its honestly. What I have say
to a IMCA member time ago: a Logo - IMCA logo - not confirm
if you are honestly or a good dealer. I am a ex IMCA member
and I am kick off from this why I I had battle with Farmer,
but for me is not a problem, I not cry if I not have a IMCA
logo.

Matteo

- Original Message -
Da : Bob Evans bobe5...@comcast.net
A : Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au
Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining
armour !
Data : Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:18:37 -0600


Oh Thanks Bob,

Believe it or not I have many happy customers who continue
to make  purchases. And now that my customer base is
shrinking thanks to all the  conjecture that is strewn
about this forum, some of them will be getting  some great
deals on my auctions. IMCA is a joke. Some of the most
respectable people in the business never  have and never
will be a member of the IMCA.

- Original Message - 
From: Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au

To: Meteorite meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:51 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining
armour !


 Listoids

 Heaven forbid !

 The alleged guardian of our sacred community condoning
 the sale of Mekong  Iron

 It isn't the first or last time that Listoids have been
 unhappy with  IMCA...

 I'd like to hear from other Listoids who have had
 disagreements with  IMCA - I'm beginning to take the
 view that there is a bad odour to IMCA  ( ? by dealers
 for dealers ?) - tho I'm still acutely aware of the
excellent work done by many IMCA members 
 At least it will take the heat off Bob EVANS for a while




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Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !

2008-12-15 Thread Notkin

Bob Walker posted:

I'd like to hear from other Listoids who have had disagreements  
with IMCA - I'm beginning to take the view that there is a bad odour  
to IMCA



Dear Bob:

It always upsets me when I hear someone grumbling about the IMCA, but  
thankfully that's a rare occurrence.


No organization is perfect, but the IMCA is a wonderful example of  
what hardworking people can accomplish when they try to make their  
community a better place. It's easy to sit behind a keyboard and point  
fingers. It's a lot harder to actually get up and do something positive.


Look at the current list of IMCA officers -- Dr. Larry Lebofsky, Anne  
Black, Peter Marmet, Jeff Kuyken, Andrzej Pilski, Martin Altmann,  
Sergey Vasiliev, Maria Haas, Norbert Classen. These people are not  
amateurs! They are some of the most respected names in our field and  
they give up enormous amounts of their personal time for no financial  
compensation in order to help steer the IMCA. The IMCA has established  
a set of ethical standards that members must adhere to and that's an  
excellent step forward as there have been quite a few out-and-out  
crooks selling in our field over the past decade. An IMCA logo on your  
website or eBay page tells prospective buyers that you are known by  
your peers to be a reputable seller.


I have a suggestion for you: If you want to know what really goes on  
in the IMCA why not volunteer? They can for sure use the help and you  
will have the opportunity to discover for yourself how these good  
people are helping to improve the meteorite collecting world.



Geoff N.

www.aerolite.org
IMCA #4242

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Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !

2008-12-15 Thread Alexander Seidel
Well spoken, Geoff - I fully agree to what you reasoned in
a very gentlemanly manner...

Alex
Berlin/Germany
IMCA # 0042



 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:18:56 -0700
 Von: Notkin geok...@notkin.net
 An: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !

 Bob Walker posted:
 
  I'd like to hear from other Listoids who have had disagreements  
  with IMCA - I'm beginning to take the view that there is a bad odour  
  to IMCA
 
 
 Dear Bob:
 
 It always upsets me when I hear someone grumbling about the IMCA, but  
 thankfully that's a rare occurrence.
 
 No organization is perfect, but the IMCA is a wonderful example of  
 what hardworking people can accomplish when they try to make their  
 community a better place. It's easy to sit behind a keyboard and point  
 fingers. It's a lot harder to actually get up and do something positive.
 
 Look at the current list of IMCA officers -- Dr. Larry Lebofsky, Anne  
 Black, Peter Marmet, Jeff Kuyken, Andrzej Pilski, Martin Altmann,  
 Sergey Vasiliev, Maria Haas, Norbert Classen. These people are not  
 amateurs! They are some of the most respected names in our field and  
 they give up enormous amounts of their personal time for no financial  
 compensation in order to help steer the IMCA. The IMCA has established  
 a set of ethical standards that members must adhere to and that's an  
 excellent step forward as there have been quite a few out-and-out  
 crooks selling in our field over the past decade. An IMCA logo on your  
 website or eBay page tells prospective buyers that you are known by  
 your peers to be a reputable seller.
 
 I have a suggestion for you: If you want to know what really goes on  
 in the IMCA why not volunteer? They can for sure use the help and you  
 will have the opportunity to discover for yourself how these good  
 people are helping to improve the meteorite collecting world.
 
 
 Geoff N.
 
 www.aerolite.org
 IMCA #4242
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !

2008-12-15 Thread Darren Garrison
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:18:56 -0700, you wrote:

It's easy to sit behind a keyboard and point fingers. 

Not if you are trying to type at the same time.
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[meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !

2008-12-14 Thread Bob WALKER

Listoids

Heaven forbid !

The alleged guardian of our sacred community condoning the sale of Mekong 
Iron


It isn't the first or last time that Listoids have been unhappy with IMCA...

I'd like to hear from other Listoids who have had disagreements with 
IMCA - I'm beginning to take the view that there is a bad odour to IMCA ( ? 
by dealers for dealers ?) - tho I'm still acutely aware of the excellent 
work done by many IMCA members


At least it will take the heat off Bob EVANS for a while




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Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !

2008-12-14 Thread Bob Evans

Oh Thanks Bob,

Believe it or not I have many happy customers who continue to make 
purchases. And now that my customer base is shrinking thanks to all the 
conjecture that is strewn about this forum, some of them will be getting 
some great deals on my auctions.
IMCA is a joke. Some of the most respectable people in the business never 
have and never will be a member of the IMCA.


- Original Message - 
From: Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au

To: Meteorite meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:51 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !



Listoids

Heaven forbid !

The alleged guardian of our sacred community condoning the sale of Mekong 
Iron


It isn't the first or last time that Listoids have been unhappy with 
IMCA...


I'd like to hear from other Listoids who have had disagreements with 
IMCA - I'm beginning to take the view that there is a bad odour to IMCA 
( ? by dealers for dealers ?) - tho I'm still acutely aware of the 
excellent work done by many IMCA members


At least it will take the heat off Bob EVANS for a while




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Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining armour !

2008-12-14 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
I have buy only one time from Bob Evans and all its go ok
with no problems. For IMCA I agree with the words

Some of the most
 respectable people in the business never  have and never
 will be a member of the IMCA.


this is right, many meteorite dealers is not IMCA member and
they sale with no problems and its honestly. What I have say
to a IMCA member time ago: a Logo - IMCA logo - not confirm
if you are honestly or a good dealer. I am a ex IMCA member
and I am kick off from this why I I had battle with Farmer,
but for me is not a problem, I not cry if I not have a IMCA
logo.

Matteo

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Da : Bob Evans bobe5...@comcast.net
A : Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au
Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining
armour !
Data : Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:18:37 -0600

 Oh Thanks Bob,
 
 Believe it or not I have many happy customers who continue
 to make  purchases. And now that my customer base is
 shrinking thanks to all the  conjecture that is strewn
 about this forum, some of them will be getting  some great
 deals on my auctions. IMCA is a joke. Some of the most
 respectable people in the business never  have and never
 will be a member of the IMCA.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au
 To: Meteorite meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:51 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in shining
 armour !
 
 
  Listoids
 
  Heaven forbid !
 
  The alleged guardian of our sacred community condoning
  the sale of Mekong  Iron
 
  It isn't the first or last time that Listoids have been
  unhappy with  IMCA...
 
  I'd like to hear from other Listoids who have had
  disagreements with  IMCA - I'm beginning to take the
  view that there is a bad odour to IMCA  ( ? by dealers
  for dealers ?) - tho I'm still acutely aware of the 
 excellent work done by many IMCA members 
  At least it will take the heat off Bob EVANS for a while
 
 
 
 
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