[meteorite-list] Is this guy out of line or is that just me?
Hi all, The ebay meteorite scams are getting worse... I've heard a few complaints about NW African dealers... I think the latter has a greater potential for abuse. They used to spam us with lots of common chondrites. Now it's unclassified planetaries, howardites, etc. I think this type of claim is as crazy, even worse, more tempting than most of the ebay goofs. Bill From: mohamed aitouzrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > good morning > > i am sure it is a lunar meteorite, but not classified yet, i am a honnest > seller, many people around the world knows me, if it's not a meteorite, I > will > give you back your money. > the price is $220 per gram. > > regards Mohamed FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is this guy out of line or is that just me?
Hi all, The ebay meteorite scams are getting worse... I've heard a few complaints about NW African dealers... I think the latter has a greater potential for abuse. They used to spam us with lots of common chondrites. Now it's unclassified planetaries, howardites, etc. I think this type of claim is as crazy, even worse, more tempting than most of the ebay goofs. Bill Bill, You should be happy. He offered me this lunar for 300/g Dont miss Your life chance !!! and buy it for 200/g -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is this guy out of line or is that just me?
Dear Bill & All, You're certainly not out of line, at least not if we are talking about the same alleged "lunar meteorite". I've seen pretty much all of them, and the photo of the rock in question didn't look remotely like a good candidate to me... Besides that, I'm getting a lot of similar offers with questionable unclassifieds that are presented as "100% lunar", "same-same", or "sure martian"... At the Ste. Marie show last weekend I have been offered pieces of a "lunar" that sure looked like a probable pairing of the impact-melted eucrite NWA 3159. At a ridiculous price. I told the seller that I was sure that this wasn't a lunar but an eucrite, but he insisted on his own "expertise", and kept on advertising it as a "new lunar find". And this was one of the better "deals" around... There are some exceptions, of course, but you're always taking a high risk with unclassified stuff as many of these alleged "planetaries" turn out to be from our own planet Earth, even if the resemble a shergottite or an anorthositic breccia. Caveat emptor! Best, Norbert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Hi all, The ebay meteorite scams are getting worse... I've heard a few complaints about NW African dealers... I think the latter has a greater potential for abuse. They used to spam us with lots of common chondrites. Now it's unclassified planetaries, howardites, etc. I think this type of claim is as crazy, even worse, more tempting than most of the ebay goofs. Bill From: mohamed aitouzrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > good morning > > i am sure it is a lunar meteorite, but not classified yet, i am a honnest > seller, many people around the world knows me, if it's not a meteorite, I will > give you back your money. > the price is $220 per gram. > > regards Mohamed FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is this guy out of line or is that just me?
Now that trade has opened up with China, there is an extreme amount of fraud going on eBay. The gemstone market is in shambles because of the Chinese fakes, now they are selling meteorites. Nearly 100% of the meteorites on eBay from Chinese dealers are iron ore. It has now spread to Chinese dealers in San Fransisco as well. The Chinese know that they are committing fraud but just don't give a s__t! The Moroccans, on the other hand, are becoming increasingly sneaky. They will send a sample of a real Martian meteorite and then send a load of crap which you will never see a refund on. A couple of Moroccan fraudsters were even pictured at the last meteorite show as can bee seen by the postings to the List. I now refuse to buy from either one! Best Regards, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is this guy out of line or is that just me?
We want remember this person it is the same have take in tourn Rob Elliott and me why we not have pay the meteorites he have pass for perfect with black crust and after when arrived they were ugly meteorites never to seen from the material show in the photos he sand. For lunar material, if is for me no analysis no money, not sure I pay $220 for not classificated meteorite and even if after analysis is a normaly eucrite Matteo - Original Message - Da : Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Is this guy out of line or is that just me? Data : Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:47:29 -0800 > Hi all, > > The ebay meteorite scams are getting worse... I've heard a > few complaints about NW African dealers... I think the > latter has a greater potential for abuse. They used to > spam us with lots of common chondrites. Now it's > unclassified planetaries, howardites, etc. > > I think this type of claim is as crazy, even worse, more > tempting than most of the ebay goofs. > > Bill > > > > From: mohamed aitouzrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > good morning > > > > i am sure it is a lunar meteorite, but not classified > > yet, i am a honnest seller, many people around the > > world knows me, if it's not a meteorite, I will give > > you back your money. the price is $220 per gram. > > > > regards Mohamed > > __ > __ FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online > with your friends and family! Visit > http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is this guy out of line or is that just me?
Adam, Your opinions are always respected, but please when you are talking about "Moroccans dealers" tell the names or shut up, if you realy faced that type of problems( I have doubts if you did) with someone, tell his name. one thing logic is that you are trying to shut us down and none would buy from us because we compete you, WE OFFER GREAT DEALS, simply you are touching our reputations, and this is a modest comercial tactic. Wherever you go, there must be honest and dishonest people. == I now refuse to buy from either one! == Oh my God, we are all going to die, because MR Adam who puts food on our tables. Aziz Adam Hupe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now that trade has opened up with China, there is an extreme amount of fraud going on eBay. The gemstone market is in shambles because of the Chinese fakes, now they are selling meteorites. Nearly 100% of the meteorites on eBay from Chinese dealers are iron ore. It has now spread to Chinese dealers in San Fransisco as well. The Chinese know that they are committing fraud but just don't give a s__t! The Moroccans, on the other hand, are becoming increasingly sneaky. They will send a sample of a real Martian meteorite and then send a load of crap which you will never see a refund on. A couple of Moroccan fraudsters were even pictured at the last meteorite show as can bee seen by the postings to the List. I now refuse to buy from either one! Best Regards, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is this guy out of line or is that just me?
Aziz, Please see the first post that initiated this thread. It's about a dealer that insists he's selling a lunar meteorite based on nothing at all. Do you defend this type of solicitation? Bill -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:41:27 -0700 (PDT)To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is this guy out of line or is that just me? Adam,Your opinions are always respected, but please when you are talking about "Moroccans dealers" tell the names or shut up, if you realy faced that type of problems( I have doubts if you did) with someone, tell his name. one thing logic is that you are trying to shut us down and none would buy from us because we compete you, WE OFFER GREAT DEALS, simply you are touching our reputations, and this is a modest comercial tactic.Wherever you go, there must be honest and dishonest people.== I now refuse to buy from either one! == Oh my God, we are all going to die, because MR Adam who puts food on our tables.AzizAdam Hupe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now that trade has opened up with China, there is anextreme amount of fraud going on eBay. The gemstonemarket is in shambles because of the Chinese fakes,now they are selling meteorites. Nearly 100% of themeteorites on eBay from Chinese dealers are iron ore. It has now spread to Chinese dealers in San Fransiscoas well. The Chinese know that they are committingfraud but just don't give a s__t!The Moroccans, on the other hand, are becomingincreasingly sneaky. They will send a sample of areal Martian meteorite and then send a load of crapwhich you will never see a refund on. A couple ofMoroccan fraudsters were even pictured at the lastmeteorite show as can bee seen by the postings to theList.I now refuse to buy from either one!Best Regards,Adam__Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Bored stiff? Loosen up...Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. Get Free 5GB Email – Check out spam free email with many cool features! Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is this guy out of line or is that just me?
Not only, they pretend I give immediatly the money without any type of analysis. I have ask to give me a piece to analyzed, but they nothing, not want hear any reasonwell, hold your lunar, I want seen who is the idiot buy a meteorite pass for lunar for the price they ask Matteo --- Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: - Aziz, Please see the first post that initiated this thread. It's about a dealer that insists he's selling a lunar meteorite based on nothing at all. Do you defend this type of solicitation? Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list