Re: [meteorite-list] Keeping Your Eyes Peeled for Cosmic Debris (Stardust)

2006-05-30 Thread Martin Horejsi

Hi Ron and All,

After talking with Andrew in Houston back in January, I knew I would
be addicted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if for no other reason than the fun of
the challenge (same reason I played the Google Da Vinci Code game and
won a cryptex). So in jest to my friends who also are hooked on the
search for particle tracks, I started a [EMAIL PROTECTED] support group.
Here is the URL. Hope it makes you smile.

http://www.geocities.com/planetwhy/stardustaddicts.html

Maybe I already posted this??

Cheers,

Martin



On 5/29/06, Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://www.bloggernews.net/2006/05/keeping-your-eyes-peeled-for-cosmic.html

Keeping your eyes peeled for cosmic debris
Blogger News Network
May 28, 2006

Stardust is a NASA space capsule that collected samples from comet Wild
2 in deep space and landed back on Earth on January 15, 2006. It was
decided that distributed computing would be used to discover the samples
the capsule collected. The project is called [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Andrew Westphal is the director of [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Wikinews
interviewed him for May's Interview of the Month (IOTM) on May 18, 2006.

Wikinews: Some may not know exactly what Stardust and or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
are. Can you explain more about it for us?

Andrew Westphal: Stardust is a NASA Discovery mission that was launch in
1999. It is really two missions in one. The primary science goal of the
mission was to collect a sample from a known primitive solar-system
body, a comet called Wild2 (pronounced Vilt-two -- the discoverer was
German, I believe). This is the first US sample return mission since
Apollo, and the first ever from beyond the moon. This gives a little
context. By sample return of course I mean a mission that brings back
extraterrestrial material. I should have said above that this is the
first solid sample return mission -- Genesis brought back a sample
from the Sun almost two years ago, but Stardust is also bringing back
the first solid samples from the local interstellar medium -- basically
this is a sample of the Galaxy. This is absolutely unprecedented, and
we're obviously incredibly excited. I should mention parenthetically
that there is a fantastic launch video -- taken from the POV of the
rocket on the JPL Stardust website -- highly recommended -- best I've
ever seen -- all the way from the launch pad to. Basically
interplanetary trajectory. Absolutely great.

WN: Is the video available to the public?

Andrew Westphal: Yes. OK, I digress. The first challenge that we have
before can do any kind of analysis of these interstellar dust particles
is simply to find them. This is a big challenge because they are very
small (order of micron in size) and are somewhere (we don't know where)
on a HUGE collector-- at least on the scale of the particle size --
about a tenth of a square meter. SO...

We're right now using an automated microscope that we developed several
years ago for nuclear astrophysics work to scan the collector in the
Cosmic Dust Lab in Building 31 at Johnson Space Center. This is the ARES
group that handles returned samples (Moon Rocks, Genesis chips,
Meteorites, and Interplanetary Dust Particles collected by U2 in the
stratosphere). The microscope collects stacks of digital images of the
aerogel collectors in the array. These images are sent to us -- we
compress them and convert them into a format appropriate for [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a highly distributed project using a Virtual
Microscope that is written in html and javascript and runs on most
browsers -- no downloads are required. Using the Virtual Microscope
volunteers can search over the collector for the tracks of the
interstellar dust particles.

WN: How many samples do you anticipate to be found during the course of
the project?

A.W.: Great question. The short answer is that we don't know. The long
answer is a bit more complicated. Here's what we know. The Galileo and
Ulysses spacecraft carried dust detectors onboard that Eberhard Gruen
and his colleagues used to first detect and them measure the flux of
interstellar dust particles streaming into the solar system. (This is a
kind of wind of interstellar dust, caused by the fact that our solar
system is moving with respect to the local interstellar medium.) Markus
Landgraf has estimated the number of interstellar dust particles that
should have been captured by Stardust during two periods of the cruise
phase of the interplanetary orbit in which the spacecraft was moving
with this wind. He estimated that there should be around 45 particles,
but this number is very uncertain -- I wouldn't be surprised if it is
quite different from that. That was the long answer! One thing that I
should say...is that like all research, the outcome of what we are doing
is highly uncertain. There is a wonderful quote attributed to Einstein
-- If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be called research,
would it?

WN: How big would the samples be?

A.W.: We expect that the particles 

[meteorite-list] Keeping Your Eyes Peeled for Cosmic Debris (Stardust)

2006-05-29 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.bloggernews.net/2006/05/keeping-your-eyes-peeled-for-cosmic.html

Keeping your eyes peeled for cosmic debris
Blogger News Network
May 28, 2006 

Stardust is a NASA space capsule that collected samples from comet Wild
2 in deep space and landed back on Earth on January 15, 2006. It was
decided that distributed computing would be used to discover the samples 
the capsule collected. The project is called [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Andrew Westphal is the director of [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Wikinews
interviewed him for May's Interview of the Month (IOTM) on May 18, 2006.

Wikinews: Some may not know exactly what Stardust and or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
are. Can you explain more about it for us?

Andrew Westphal: Stardust is a NASA Discovery mission that was launch in
1999. It is really two missions in one. The primary science goal of the
mission was to collect a sample from a known primitive solar-system
body, a comet called Wild2 (pronounced Vilt-two -- the discoverer was
German, I believe). This is the first US sample return mission since
Apollo, and the first ever from beyond the moon. This gives a little
context. By sample return of course I mean a mission that brings back
extraterrestrial material. I should have said above that this is the
first solid sample return mission -- Genesis brought back a sample
from the Sun almost two years ago, but Stardust is also bringing back
the first solid samples from the local interstellar medium -- basically
this is a sample of the Galaxy. This is absolutely unprecedented, and
we're obviously incredibly excited. I should mention parenthetically
that there is a fantastic launch video -- taken from the POV of the
rocket on the JPL Stardust website -- highly recommended -- best I've
ever seen -- all the way from the launch pad to. Basically
interplanetary trajectory. Absolutely great.

WN: Is the video available to the public?

Andrew Westphal: Yes. OK, I digress. The first challenge that we have
before can do any kind of analysis of these interstellar dust particles
is simply to find them. This is a big challenge because they are very
small (order of micron in size) and are somewhere (we don't know where)
on a HUGE collector-- at least on the scale of the particle size --
about a tenth of a square meter. SO...

We're right now using an automated microscope that we developed several
years ago for nuclear astrophysics work to scan the collector in the
Cosmic Dust Lab in Building 31 at Johnson Space Center. This is the ARES
group that handles returned samples (Moon Rocks, Genesis chips,
Meteorites, and Interplanetary Dust Particles collected by U2 in the
stratosphere). The microscope collects stacks of digital images of the
aerogel collectors in the array. These images are sent to us -- we
compress them and convert them into a format appropriate for [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a highly distributed project using a Virtual
Microscope that is written in html and javascript and runs on most
browsers -- no downloads are required. Using the Virtual Microscope
volunteers can search over the collector for the tracks of the
interstellar dust particles.

WN: How many samples do you anticipate to be found during the course of
the project?

A.W.: Great question. The short answer is that we don't know. The long
answer is a bit more complicated. Here's what we know. The Galileo and
Ulysses spacecraft carried dust detectors onboard that Eberhard Gruen
and his colleagues used to first detect and them measure the flux of
interstellar dust particles streaming into the solar system. (This is a
kind of wind of interstellar dust, caused by the fact that our solar
system is moving with respect to the local interstellar medium.) Markus
Landgraf has estimated the number of interstellar dust particles that
should have been captured by Stardust during two periods of the cruise
phase of the interplanetary orbit in which the spacecraft was moving
with this wind. He estimated that there should be around 45 particles,
but this number is very uncertain -- I wouldn't be surprised if it is
quite different from that. That was the long answer! One thing that I
should say...is that like all research, the outcome of what we are doing
is highly uncertain. There is a wonderful quote attributed to Einstein
-- If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be called research,
would it?

WN: How big would the samples be?

A.W.: We expect that the particles will be of order a micron in size. (A
millionth of a meter.) When people are searching using the virtual
microscope, they will be looking not for the particles, but for the
tracks that the particles make, which are much larger -- several microns
in diameter. Just yesterday we switched over to a new site which has a
demo of the VM (virtual microscope) I invite you to check it out. The
tracks in the demo are from submicron carbonyl iron particles that were
shot into aerogel using a particle accelerator modified to accelerate
dust particles to very high speeds,