[meteorite-list] Kentucky Fireball in Progress Report: The first week
First a congratulations to the Texas contingent on a rapid reaction and timely track down of their fall and for providing inspiration! My first awareness of the fireball came from a source in Florence/Erlangen Kentucky and was a good solid observation. As you recall the world was abuzz with lots of fireball and space re-entry events last weekend. Random fires in both Kentucky and Texas were attributed to falling satellite debris. Many discounted their experience owing to the false news reports that all the fireballs were satellite re-entries and it took some extra time to explain all these misconceptions to the readers. With the bird dogging assistance of some list members I was able to locate internet blogs, conspiracy groups and scanner activity to focus on a cluster of buzz in the absence of reliable specific data. Unfortunately one of the main sites went down for maintenance right after I found and read some 280 plus posts (GodlikeProductions.com) when it came back up I was unable to find the thread. Topix.com (similar to craigslist for local chat) has a 160 post thread from folks in and around London, KY. called Explosion. What I've gleaned that is fairly reliable and/ or merits additional digging into: folks saw the decent from Illinois,Indiana, Ohio, West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, and North and South Carolina. In fact had I been otside at the time I'd have been able to see it (and I'd had at least one darn accurate fixed point to work from!) I had one report or a nearly directly over head east to west passage from a GPS location but no azimuth. I've 30+ I Live in Podunk and I saw it from my window.. Gosh Wow reports with absolutely no azimuth data. Just in a report from Ontario, Canada. I am ploting fireball reports from AMSMeteors.org and trying to link up with another plotter from yet another site. Where I do have azimuth directions some of them suggest folks have reversed their cardinal directions. When I plot most tracks they go from southeast to northwest but a few indicate a west to east trajectory. Most of these conflicts are from the more distant stations. I have some reports which suggest this event produced electrophonic sounds. Some short delays or near instant sounds in sighting reports hint at the presence of electrophonic sounds. I hope to interview more folks when I get to London. Several folks reported bizarre,agitated fearful or otherwise strange pet behavior immediately before the appearance of the fireball. Because no formal protocol seems to exist in the US to orchestrate the 6-8 US Government Agencies which might be players-- else keepers of data. I've spent a week making headway into the USAF, The FAA, The US Geological Survey, DHS as in Dept of Homeland Security, The National Weather Service(NWS),NASA,and the US Forest Service. OOps the IRS was personal business so 6 Federal, two state and local, 6-8 international subject matter experts and of course my beloved meteorite list who always gives solid reliable advice! In the past 12 hours I have found a seismograph online with a single blip/jolt on a seismogram 50 miles from London, KY that the USGS said didn't exist--long story. Since there are other similar blips throughout the day the only thing I know so far is this may not be a sonic signature but it is within the time frame and area of interest. With help from the National Weather Service office in Jackson, KY I was able to track down archived doppler data for the night of the 13th ( which is reported in Zulu Time so the data was under the 14th). There is a high echo frame with a suddenly appearing, meteor-like, echo line occurring southeast to northwest just below and parallel to the Knox County KY line but with 10 minute gaps in the frames I am not sure this is the signature we are looking for. Family tragedy has kept me at home this week but this did allow me to track down all these other sources. With more caveats than nailed down facts, my latest prognostication is: This was a natural, sound-producing medium to large fireball; Tracking generally from the southeast to northwest on a line just north of London Ky at possibly 2210-2212EST (GMT -5). If anyone wants links to the data such that we have a second set of eyes looking for info, it will take me a bit to assemble all the links but send me a request directly and when it is ready I'll email you the links. Elton __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Kentucky Meteorites
Hi List I found something and thought you people might like it. Its downloads and in pdf, but pretty good reading. http://kgsweb.uky.edu/PubsSearching/SimpleResults.asp?searchtype1=atleastlimiter=ANDdropmenu1=keyworddata1=meteoritesdropmenu2=data2=yearlmt=NoPrefyear2=year3=maps=submit=Submit+Search+for+PublicationssrchType=pubs MarkF
Re: [meteorite-list] Kentucky?
If my memory is correct, Meteorite List member, Brad Sampson is located in Lexington, KY. I've never talked to anyone that has met Brad in person, but many of us have had dealings with him. Best, John At 02:34 PM 9/20/03 -0700, Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello List, Looks like things might be looking up for me, finally! I got a job offer in Lexington Kentucky. Just got to work out the details. I am into meteorites, not race horses, is there anything or anyone interesting in Kentucky? I think this will be safer the Iraq!!! : ) Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi, list: Sorry to get into this late, but better late than never! I visited the Middlesboro area for the second time a couple of months ago, and recommend going to see it. Driving into town on the main road from the Interstate, it's clear that the geology is different from the surrounding area. I suggest going over to the nearby Cumberland Gap national park for the best view, though. Go into the little museum there (worth seeing in itself if you like history) and ask the ranger at the desk to show you the 3D plastic USGS map they have of the area. It shows the astrobleme clearly. I think, too, that might be where I got my copy of Traces of Catastrophy: A Handbook of Shock Metamorphic Effects in Terrestrial Meteorite Impact Structures, by Bevan M. French (good, but not exactly light reading!). Then get directions to the overlook. The road to the overlook goes through the park and is a steep switchback road up a mountain. Be sure your coolant system is in good shape before going to avoid overheating if you go in the summer! There's a parking lot at the top and a short walking path to the Cumberland Gap overlook, but from there you can look back to the right toward Middlesboro and really see the crater well. Kentucky also has the Versailles Structure in Woodford County not terribly far from Lexington, although I don't know if there is anything there to see. More interesting is Jeptha Knob, the central uplift of another impact structure. It lies north of (and easily visible from) I-64 between Lexington and Louisville. It's best seen from the Interstate near a truck weigh station just east of Shelbyville. It looks like a largish, isolated hill (in rolling country) with an antenna farm at the top. There's more information on these structures from the Kentucky Geological Survey site at www.uky.edu/KGS/home.htm , but you'll need to use the search function to find it all. I think the KGS also has some meteorites on display in their campus building. There are some other impact structures in surrounding states, too. I find that the Geological Survey sites for many states are good sources of information about such things. Dave Hostetter Curator of the Planetarium Lafayette (LA) Natural History Museum Planetarium Hello List, Looks like things might be looking up for me, finally! I got a job offer in Lexington Kentucky. Just got to work out the details. I am into meteorites, not race horses, is there anything or anyone interesting in Kentucky? I think this will be safer the Iraq!!! : ) Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Lots of limestone from a geology standpoint...also my good friend John Curchin gave me a wonderful shattercone that came from Kentucky. I forget what the name of the impact structure that is there Middlesburg or Middlesboro maybe? Yes, it's Middlesboro - it has a diameter of about 6 km with a central uplift and shattercones. Congratulations on your job offer...hope all goes well if you decide to go. Congrats and good look if you go! Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Bernd, Thanx Bernd...I should have looked first. According to the attached site there are 3 impact locations in Kentucky. http://www.uky.edu/KGS/education/meteorites.html John Lots of limestone from a geology standpoint...also my good friend John Curchin gave me a wonderful shattercone that came from Kentucky. I forget what the name of the impact structure that is there Middlesburg or Middlesboro maybe? Yes, it's Middlesboro - it has a diameter of about 6 km with a central uplift and shattercones. Congratulations on your job offer...hope all goes well if you decide to go. Congrats and good look if you go! Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Kentucky?
If you search for Lexington, U.S.A., you will find a whole list of places to be able to live in, but if you go for Lexington, Kentucky, you will find that at N 38.0 and W 84.5 degrees, quite close to a famous meteorite fall, which is Bath Furnace (L6, fell on Nov 15, 1902, with 86 kg preserved, on display in the Chicago Field Museum). Alex Berlin, Germany Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello List, Looks like things might be looking up for me, finally! I got a job offer in Lexington Kentucky. Just got to work out the details. I am into meteorites, not race horses, is there anything or anyone interesting in Kentucky? I think this will be safer the Iraq!!! : ) Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Kentucky? / Bath Furnace
Actually, the main mass of Bath Furnace is in the Chicago Field Museum, weighing a whopping 82.5 kg. About 1 kg is in London, and the rest is distributed somewhere in other collections with 537 g in Jim Schwade´s one, according to MetBase V6.0. Anyone interested in old documents? Well, here we go: http://www.rasny.org/V4P193-2.HTM Alex Berlin, Germany Alexander Seidel wrote: If you search for Lexington, U.S.A., you will find a whole list of places to be able to live in, but if you go for Lexington, Kentucky, you will find that at N 38.0 and W 84.5 degrees, quite close to a famous meteorite fall, which is Bath Furnace (L6, fell on Nov 15, 1902, with 86 kg preserved, on display in the Chicago Field Museum). Alex Berlin, Germany Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello List, Looks like things might be looking up for me, finally! I got a job offer in Lexington Kentucky. Just got to work out the details. I am into meteorites, not race horses, is there anything or anyone interesting in Kentucky? I think this will be safer the Iraq!!! : ) Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Kentucky Meteorites
Of the 25 Kentucky Meteorites listed in the Catalogue of Meteorites, I now own 18. If anyone has the following Ky Meteorites for sale, please contact me off list. Campbellsville Casey Count Glasgow Monticello Providence Salt River Scottsville Thanks, Bill Russell __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
